Do Oneness Pentecostals Teach Salvation by Works? | Episode 41
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2022
- Oneness Pentecostals sometimes are accused of preaching salvation by works, particularly because they insist that full salvation includes water baptism. Often, the person leveling the charge will quote Ephesians 2:8-9, where Paul wrote, “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.”
Dr. David K. Bernard responds to this accusation and examines what the Bible says about the connection between faith and obedience.
For a more in-depth exploration of this topic, see Dr. Bernard's book "The New Birth," available at pentecostalpublishing.com/pro....
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This video was so needed as people bring up this topic quite often in the conversation of salvation . Great explanation Bishop Bernard👍❤️🙏🏻
Glad it was helpful! (Production Team)
I had always been told in the Baptist church what was said about works as Dr. Bernard states, BUT after I was Born Again I was taught by the SAME people that the Church began @ Pentecost, seems simple to me that Peter FILLED with God COMMANDED them and they just submitted, BUT, I also understand that most I have seen use Acts 2:38 as a step by step FORMULA, like those who tell the sinner to say the sinners prayer, I honestly believe we have folks sitting in churches THINKING they were Born Again BY the ACTIONS THEY TOOK following the person giving the instructions. Baptist churches are FULL of Unregenerate "believers" who simply followed a procedure and God didn't orchestrate such, & I'm sure UP has the same, I have met some who followed the UP formula and was coached into "speaking" in tongues but there is obviously NO change in their lives, it happens on BOTH side of the street.
@@REVNUMANEWBERN: You can't be coached into speaking in tongues. That isn't authentic and real. Tongues comes by receiving the genuine Holy Ghost, and if the heart isn't repentant a person will not receive the Spirit of Christ. And Christ can look upon everyone's heart and he knows who's sincere and who isn't. Although I was dedicated to Christ as a baby at UPC here in Augusta, Maine by a Pastor Rick Stoops, I received the Holy Ghost on Oct 3rd, 1999 at an Independent Apostolic Pentecostal Church here in Augusta. Maine under Pastor Jack Willhoite, and he got so excited he almost knocked the Podium over upon me receiving the Holy Ghost, and it's because the message preached that morning tugged at my heart and made me feel extremely remorseful about all the wicked things I had done in life, and that's when Christ infilled me with the Holy Ghost, and I was instantly delivered and set free from multiple drug addictions, cigarettes, alcohol, lying, swearing, stealing and many other sinful things I was bound by, so my experience was genuine, and I consider it an honor to be able to testify to the whole world what Christ did for me. Acts 2:38🕊
@@REVNUMANEWBERNI am a member of the UP(UPC) (from NE India) , i haven't speak in tongues and i don't know if it's a must, i have been around people who speak in tongues. What i want to know is when a person speak in tongues do they speak in a dialect that is very alien that they Havent heard before or what ?
I don't know...@@remsangachhakchhuak1738
If God is in you, something of God must come out.!
Amazing word Brother Bernard. Praise God for truth
Baptism is not a work. It's a commandment
Perfect!!
Amen! I tell people that all the time!
If Jesus blood saves me from sin then there is none other Name to be baptised in.
So is don’t steal and lie. Are you saying if I lie after I am saved I can lose my salvation?
@Johnny Humbird maybe you were never on the path to salvation in the 1st place. Salvation isn't a microwave dish or once saved, always saved.
Praise God glory to our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ for his grace excellent teaching Pastor David Bernard explain Ephesians 2:8-9 for by grace are you save through faith and not ourselves it is the gift of God not of works lest any man shall boast and Acts 2:38 repent and be baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins that's faith and obedience for the grace of our Grest God and Saviour Jesus Christ Praise, Praise Praise God God bless you Pastor David Bernard and family and congregation ❤🙏🙏🙏
There is a big different in performing " works" in an attempt to earn salvation and obeying the commands in Acts 2:38 in order to recieve the free gift of salvation.
The Word " recieve" , in the N.T. original Greek, means " to take hold of. The paranoia to do anything in order to be saved comes from the protestant reformers. In their zeal to escape the " saved by works" of the catholics went too far the other way to faith without obedience.
Thanks Bishop Bernard. This helped me tremendously to help explain truth to my friends!
Awesome explanation brother Bernard !
The Word made clear!! Thank you Brother David
Grateful for this video! Thank you Bishop Bernard for explaining this so well and all the resources you have made available to the Apostolic movement. We are forever indebted to your legacy of writings, books, debates, sermons, lessons and podcasts. You bring clarity in your teaching for our movement and help us move forward with unity of doctrine. I pray whoever your successor is is able to carry the weight of responsibility you have carried so well. I hope the UPCI gets to have you as our General Superintendent for many more years. You still have the ability to articulate this message with excellence and the voice of God for the movement.
Good explanation dr. Bernard
Jesus is my lord and saviour!!!!! Thankyou Jesus for dying for our sins, and raising from the dead!!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤
Wonderful, thorough explanation brother. God bless you un Jesus name 🙏
Best explanation I've ever heard.
Awesome teaching! Ty❤
Great job. Amen!
Thank you!
This video is SO much more than what this title lets on. Please consider ALSO posting it as “why someone may be struggling to receive the Holy Ghost.”
ALL are IN Christ, for IN HIM dwells ALL of the Fulness of the Godhead. if you have Jesus you HAVE the Indwelling GodHEAD !
faith without works is Dead😳James chapter 2😳show me your faith without works,...And i'll show you my faith, by my works🙏🙏👍👍
Your works miss the mark so bad if that’s what you think is gonna get you or keep you saved you’re headed for Hell
@Joseph White Salvation is a free gift. Even a free gift must be recieved. The word " recieve" in the new testaments' original Greek means," to take hold of".
Faith in action through obedience is how we recieve salvation. It can't just be head faith and save. And because being saved is also being born again, just as physical birth is the end result of a process so is spiritual rebirth. That process is Acts ch.2:38.
I like the way this is being explains, those who say your delivery of the gospel is works will turn around and tell folks "they have to say the sinners prayer to be saved" I was Born Again while folks gathered around me laying their hands on me while praying, I broke and told God I GIVE UP, and was Born Again BEFORE the fellow led me in prayer.
Excellent Bishop. As usual lol
Thanks 🙏🌞👍
New Testament obedience is to believe, not the reverse.
Saying that believing the Gospel is really obedience changes the gospel of salvation by grace through faith to salvation by works.
Excellent explanations. Very simple to understand and to re-communicate. May I suggest a repositioning of the microphone for future episodes, as it currently is a distraction from viewing Bro. Bernard's face.
Wow. Never heard that explanation before 😮
Great teaching ! Many of the accusations that pentecostals teach a works based salvation is based on the false protestant narrative that anything we might do to recieve salvation other than just believing is " works". If that was true then repentance is " works" because it is an act of obedience we must choose to do after we believe to be saved.
The Bible says that Abrahams faith was counted as righteousness. If Abraham just said he believed but never obeyed to leave the land of his fathers would he have been saved? The answer is no. Faith requires obedience.
Biblical faith initiates or energizes obedience
“We’re not doing the works. We’re meeting the conditions.” This is why baptismal salvation doesn’t save. It is a command for certain. But obedience to commands do not save. We’re saved the moment we believe. True belief that Christ’s atoning work on the Cross was solely sufficient for our salvation is a rare thing. What rest it provides when by faith we can breath easy knowing our sins are forgiven and Christ’s perfect righteousness has been imputed to us.
If we’re saved by faith plus obedience, then we’re saved by faith plus works. However, the Bible is clear that we are saved by grace through faith and…
Not of works,
Apart from works,
and to the one who does not work, but believes.
The UPCI does teach a works-righteousness salvation, but under this system you never know if you’re saved because you never know if you are living a holy enough life to earn your way to heaven.
It’s sad that so much confusion is taught rather than the simplicity which is in Christ.
Yes
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Amen!
We are reconciled ( forgiven ) BY His death, but saved by His Life ( resurrection ), when Jesus comes to live within the dead sinner he is spiritually raised from the dead !
Because I believe and by faith I was baptize. &,, and I work my salvation everyday and you still have to do water baptism by, by faith
Amen
Can you please teach on the “ I’m the righteousness of God?
15 The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.
16 For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed.
Preach all what is written in the holy Bible specially the words of our Lord JESUS CHRIST if you love me do my COMMANDMENTS. There are many commandments from our Lord JESUS CHRIST that must be followed. Because our Lord JESUS is the one who will save us and the one who will judge us and many more things about our Lord JESUS.
Water baptism is not our work it is Jesus work, it is faith doing his commandment we should follow John 3:3&5 and Mark 16:16, Matthew 28:19 and Acts 2:38.We can perform baptism but the question is, are we able to save ourselves through our works if Jesus was not been crucified? No, no one can save himself without blood of Jesus Heb. 9;22if people would only understand the meaning of GOSPEL they aould be able to understand why we should experience baptism in water and baptism in spirit.
Jesus was never created; Jesus ALWAYS was, He helped create the universe.
Can I cross post this on my RUclips channel with full credits?
Some say we're not saved by works----but we are saved by works---because SALVATION is work of God.
Greetings Pastor David Bernard, greetings from the UPC Philippines. Can I use some of your videos for my facebook post and redirect it to your channel?
Feel free to share these videos on your Facebook page! (Production Team)
Amen. Mark 16:16, he that believes AND IS BAPTIZED SHALL BE SAVED. People get Titus 3:5, mixed up with James 2:14-26. It's not by our own works or good deeds. It's by Faith and OBEDIENCE TO GOD. Noah didn't just believe, he obeyed and built the ark. Lot didn't just believe, but obeyed and left Sodom.
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Where can I submit a question?
IF you believe God is ONE, then when a sinner Repents from the heart and ask Jesus to save them "Indwell" them then they receive the Fulness of the Godhead because the Fulness was & is IN CHRIST !
You say you are saved through grace by faith and than this is the word you say right after BUT
I find it interesting that Dr. Bernard fails to mention all of the rules/works you have to do for the rest of your life after “salvation”. Following every rule your pastor sets, dressing in certain clothing and certain hairstyles dependent upon gender, going back to the altar regularly to confess sins, only reading the KJV (although they seem to have loosened that in the years since I left), being at every church service and prayer group, and a whole host of other “holiness standards”. Receiving a free gift is one thing. Baptism in a certain name and speaking in tongues are works as well.
Is the Man Christ Jesus alive and well today the Son of God?
Really trying to listen to this with open ears and a ready heart... however he hasn't given a good explanation that baptism isn't a work...
Can someone who came from unbelief, to believe, become saved?
Of course
In Genesis God says, "Let US make man in OUR image." In Revelation 6:16-17 the Bible says, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of THEIR wrath has come…” In Luke 23:46 the Bible says, “Jesus called out with a loud voice, “Father, into YOUR hands I commit my spirit.” Is Jesus talking to Himself here? In John 16:28 Jesus says, “I came from the Father and entered the world; now I am leaving the world and going back to the Father.” Notice Jesus did not say, “I left heaven and became the son, and now I am going back to heaven to become the Father again. In John 16:38 Jesus says, “For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.” This verse is saying Jesus has His own will and the Father has His. Yes, they don’t disagree, of course, but still this verse speaks of two wills. In John 14:31 Jesus says, “…but so that the world may know that I love the Father, I do exactly as the Father commanded Me.” In John 5:19 Jesus says, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner.” In John 1:1 the Bible says, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was WITH God, and the Word was God.” If Oneness was true, shouldn’t this verse say, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God.” John 6:44 says, “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.” Again, if oneness was true, shouldn’t this verse say, “No one can come to me, unless I draw him.” In John 10:15, Jesus says, “…even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep.” Matthew 26:29 says, “And He went a little beyond them, and fell on His face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will.” Read for yourself; does this sound like oneness, or is Jesus having conversations with the Father within the triune God-head?
I have a question, I have repented and believed and I was baptized years ago in the name of the Lord Jesus as I felt the Lord lead me to and to literally test the waters at a church so different than what I grew up in. I didn’t believe at that time it was needed for the remission of sin so I feel because I didn’t have the faith and do it FOR the remission of sin it didn’t count (without faith it is imposable to please Him). I see now that I didn’t know the full picture. I still don’t know how much a role baptism plays this side of heaven but growing daily. From what I see in the Scriptures right now, faith in the death burial and resurrection of Christ could be applied to your account when you are baptized. It’s not the baptism itself that does it, it’s when you are baptized in obedience that Christ’s righteousness is credited to your account (is this correct?). I also was baptized again in the name of the Lord Jesus a couple weeks ago but I had a little doubt in my heart right before (Ethiopian unique had to believe with ALL his heart prior to being baptized and I feel bc my little bit of doubt I didn’t). Do I need to get baptized again or is my obedience enough? I also have scrupulosity religious OCD so I don’t wanna do it for the wrong reasons. Thanks
Outstanding example of why Baptismal Regeneration is a nonsensical "work" along with ecstatic utterance (called tongues by this oneness false doctrine) to maintain your salvation. That's no salvation. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ's atoning work and you will be saved.
@@ringonordstrom692 thank you sir the response. I’m honestly seeking truth. What about verses like Acts 2:38, Rom 6::3-6, Colossians 2:12?. My faith is on Christ’s atoning work for me I just struggle with verses like these. I’ve heard it said that Christ atoning work is applied to you by faith when your baptized.
It's because you have no faith. Even God is limited because people don't believe or have faith.
Water baptism regeneration is a strawman argument. Nobody teaches that
@@wjdyr6261 So are you saying water baptism as needed or not needed for salvation? My faith is ultimately on the Lord Jesus Christ either way and His atoning sacrifice for my sin. It’s not my works but His
@believeonchriststaystrong7589 what does scripture say? Peter preached the 1st sermon, and Acts is foundational to salvation. Or do you disagree?
One important thing some dont realize is Ephesians 2:8-9 was written to the Ephesian church who had already obeyed the Gospel and been baptized in Jesus' name, not random Ephesian sinners. We can see the beginning of the Ephesian church back in Acts 19:1-6 where Paul ran into believers in Ephesus that had already been through the baptism of repentance through John's message but not even heard of the Holy Spirit. Paul preached Jesus to them and re-baptized them in Jesus' name and they received that Holy Spirit. Why would Paul then re-preach the gospel in a letter he wrote to the people he had already preached it to and had already obeyed the message of baptism? Instead he further explains to them what they had already experienced in Ephesians 2:8-9.
It is imperative to "rightfully divide" the Word of God or it will lead to false doctrine. (Matthew-John) = Gospels. (Acts) = Birth of NT Church. (Romans-Jude) = Letters to already born-again and saved Christians instructing them on how to live and maintain our relationship with Christ. You can't revert back to the Gospels to find the Salvation plan because the Spirit of Christ hadn't yet been poured out, which didn't happen until the day of Pentecost in Acts 2:1-4. Peter stood up afterwards and told us what we must do to be saved in Acts 2:38, and then Paul writes 2/3rds of the NT to Holy Ghost filled ppl who were already saved.
@@derekbaker777When the men asked Peter, they said “MEN And BRETHREN, what shall we do?” They didn’t say “What must I do to be saved?”
Peter was addressing the elect Jews (house of Israel) who were guilty of crucifying the Lord Jesus Christ in that dispensation of time. Paul was the apostle to the Gentiles.
@@thecountrybrother: I disagree. "For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God." (Romans 2:28-29). I am a spiritual Jew through the Spirit of Christ, and was grafted in (Romans 11:17) because I received the Holy Ghost on Oct 3rd, 1999 at age 19, and I had the same exact experience as the Apostles had on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2:1-4, and I also spoke in other tongues and was instantly delivered and set free from multiple drug addictions, cigarettes, alcohol, lying, swearing, stealing and many other sinful things I was bound by, and millions of other ppl have also received the Holy Ghost because they obeyed Acts 2:38, and Acts 2:39 assures us that: "The promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call," which refutes your claim. And you and I are just as much responsible for crucifying Christ because it's humanities sinful nature that crucified Christ, and the Lord died on the Cross for everyone. Lastly, rightfully dividing the Word of God is imperative to understanding sound doctrine and without the Holy Ghost you won't make it into the Kingdom. I testify the truth to you brother and if you want the Holy Ghost just obey Acts 2:38 and you'll see for yourself that I'm right. Even if it takes you months of going down to the alter, as long as you have a repentant heart Christ knows and can see it and will infill you with the Holy Ghost and I guarantee that you'll speak in other tongues and will be delivered and set free from whatever struggles and addictions you may have. And just remember: the promise of the Holy Ghost is "Unto you and to your children, and to all that are afar off; even as many as the Lord our God shall call!" God bless.
FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD.
Acts 2 says you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost is doesn’t say anything about speaking in tongues.
When we obey the plan of salvation, we are acting in faith and receiving of God's grace, which is not dependent upon us at all. When we repent, we do not forgive our own sins nor do we believe that God is indebted to forgive our sins, so if our sins are forgiven at repentance, it is based upon God's sovereignty and grace. When we are water baptized in Jesus Name, we do not remit our own sins nor do we believe that God is indebted to remit our sins, so if our sins are remitted at water baptism, it is based upon God's sovereignty and grace. When we are baptized with the Holy Ghost, we do not regenerate ourselves, sanctify ourselves, or justify ourselves, so if through the baptism of the Holy Ghost we are regenerated, sanctified, and justified, then it is based upon God's sovereignty and grace.
Don’t read Ephesians 2:8-9 without reading Acts 19:5-6, as Acts 19:5-6 is the Salvation experience of the Church at Ephesus
Acts 19:5-6: When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. (6) And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them, and they spake with tongues and prophesied.
Paul was filled with the baptism Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues (Acts 9:17, 1Corinthians 12:13)
Paul was water baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins (Acts 9:18, Acts 22:16)
Paul Baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins (Acts 16:33, Acts 18:8, Acts 19:5, 1Corinthians 1:13-17)
Paul believed and taught in the Oneness of God (Acts 17:29, Acts 24:14, Colossians 2:8-9, 1Timothy 3:16, Titus 2:13)
Paul taught and lived holiness of lifestyle (Romans 6:1-23, 2Corinthians 7:1, Hebrews 10:26, Hebrews 12:14)
read scripture with the whole Bible
Faith without works is dead! (James 2:17) and salvation involves OBEDIENCE (1John 2:3-5)
Obedience or submission energizes or engages salvation
John 3:5: Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God
Acts 19:5-6: When they heard this they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. (6) And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them, and they spake with tongues and prophesied.
The Holy Ghost is Jesus Christ in Spiritual regeneration
John 2:19-21
Acts 2:4
Romans 8:9-11
2Corinthians 3:17
Galatians 2:20
Philippians 1:19
Colossians 1:27 thus the Almighty True and Living God Jesus Christ (Revelation 1:8)
Jesus never changes (Malachi 3:6-8, Hebrews 13:8)
In Jesus Name
How do you reconcile Acts 10:42-48? They received remission of sin after believing, they were circumcised, the Holyghost fell on them, they spoke in tongues, then were baptized in the name of the Lord. So you can receive remission of your sins and be filled with the Holyghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues without being saved?
Acts 10:42-48 doesn't stand alone. Scripture also says that remission of sins is by the blood of Christ and baptism does also wash away our sins.
@@wjdyr6261 standing alone is not the issue, it’s plainly laid out in order
@@josephwhite8850 so what's your point? People are to hear the gospel, believe and obey which means baptism in the name of Jesus etc etc.
@@wjdyr6261 I’m all for baptism in Jesus name, I’m a oneness Pentecostal, but the scripture plainly lays out how to be saved in multiple places, faith in the finish work of the cross is what it takes to be saved, period.
This is entirely consistent with what Dr. Bernard was saying. It is not the actual act of being immersed in water that does any forgiveness of our sins. The baptism is the result of our belief. If those gentiles had refused to be baptized, even after they received the Holy Ghost, the Apostles would have had to conclude that they didn't really believe it anymore somehow. We do assume that it is possible for a Christian to lose their salvation through disbelief, so we would have to conclude that they were on a path towards God, and then turned back around and were lost in that hypothetical scenario. If they died immediately after receiving the Holy Ghost but before rejecting what they had just believed, then they would still have been saved.
Also, they were not circumcised... the only use of that word in the passage is referring to the Jews who witnessed the event.
How come you say you adhere to the Apostles doctrine by repent and be baptized but you don’t sell your possessions and distribute them to those in need?
Have you done the same?
Can you discuss the ending of the son
Compare oneness and trinity
This guy has not read his concordance or the Bible. Easy to refute everything he is saying
Baptism in Jesus' Name is only one way, other times in Acts even, is the name of the father son and holy spirit. Jesus is not the father or hs only the son. there is one mediator between man and God, thats Jesus.
The trinity is pagan. That style of thinking was adopted later on in the church. Besides. Nobody taught the trinity in the bible. Tell me who?
oneness is a cult. 45 times Jesus claimed God as his Father. Over 200 times Jesus is referred as the Son, never the Father.
“I and My Father are one.” John 10:30
there is no oneness its not in the book it is false doctrine. there is no apostolic its not in the book. its false doctrine. there is no pentecostal its not in the book. if you can find these three words in the book i will give you my truck. i am a one god not oneness apostles doctrine not apostolic and acts 2v38 jesus name christian who is not a pentecostal.