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I'm over 60 and spent over 35 years as a software developer using ASM, C and C++. Not once did I require Google, we had access to better (Usenet for example) in the late 70s and 80s. No censors, trolls, and morons. It was great! Sadly you will never experience anything like it.
I used to program as a hobby when I was a teenager, early 2000's, little bit of Delphi (Pascal) and visual basic. Back then IDE's used to come with loads of resources (help). I could learn Pascal just from help files, and I wasn't even a native speaker of English .
as more people come in towards and start using a new technology, the average iq falls down and the interactions start resembling the iq and the taste of the common denominator
For nostalgia purposes I have installed Windows 98 and Windows XP in a virtual environment. I love watching how fast the OS installs on modern day tech.
I was born in 1988 and still had one of these until around 2010. It's fair to say, that even Microsoft Office lagged all the time, but still it was considered cooler than writing documents by hand.
@@cornwat It's the focus on the programming libraries available versus the capability of the hardware to run created programs. Example: LGR does Windows 98 gaming builds with old hardware as an IT guy. Hallden was concerned about the kinds of programs he could create on old hardware in Windows 98.
A fascinating trip down memory lane for this old dude. I got into computers in the early nineties, when Windows 3.11 was predominant. It crashed regularly, and the promise of the next major Windows OS release -- Windows 95 -- was to correct that crashing, in addition to providing a new UI experience. Win 95 delivered as promised (mostly), and I remember having all sorts of consulting work going around to companies and upgrading their PCs to Win 95. It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.
@Baal Hamoun - It's difficult to compare the old days to now. The first computer I ever owned was a Macintosh SE, which I bought in college in 1988. It was basically a goldfish-bowl black-and-white screen, and of course no internet connectivity (because internet didn't exist then). So it was a glorified typewriter. I remember I had to buy more memory for it, and I decided to max it out at 8 mb of RAM. I figured that would be enough to last me for a lifetime.
YUP! I remember back when I thought punching a hole in the floppy disk would allow it to be "high density". Oh, the computer tried to save 1.44MB of data but WOW was it always full of lost clusters and corrupt files as a result!
I remember back then just the computer guy everyone knew would get jobs easy upgrading. Me and my buddy mark upgraded an entire office building with windows 98se
Classic... First OS I have ever worked is windows 98... .I still remember playing my first PC games in Windows 98 .. Road Rash, Wolf 3D, Prince of Persia ... Nostalgia!!!!
Hahah bro, I’m somewhat of a millennial too and I was hit with a lot of nostalgia! But watching you trying to wait patiently had me rolling!! I feel your pain brother 😂
Now this brings me back. My parents bought our first PC back in 1995. It came with MS-DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.11. 2 months after we got it Windows 95 released and we've spent the equivalent of about 100 Euro to upgrade the PC from 4 to 8 mb of RAM. Half a year after that we upgraded the 486 with a CD-ROM drive, sound card and speakers. So we finally had some sound coming out of it. Fun times. Btw. Solitaire and Minesweeper were always part of Windows since at least Windows 3.11. So they should be on the Windows 98 CD if they were not installed on it.
@@SandsOfArrakis I had 286 those time and got 386 SX33 - it incredibly level upped my PC because I was able play doom (DOS4GW started since 386 - EMS memory). Later in 98-99 I got 486 DX4/100. In 95 486 was very expensive - seems you were from rich family. What sound card you got with upgrade?
@@PrototypeZZ when we bought the 486, the Pentium was already out :) The sound card was a Soundblaster 16 clone. A Topmedia I believe. The first PC i built for myself was a P 233 MMX in a high tower. That one did have a Creative sound card. An AWE64 Value. Which was a huge improvement. My parents were never rich. Just ordinary hard working people.
@@SandsOfArrakis Well if anyone could be able to buy new PC those days we considered them as rich. I remember myself starring at 486 in store. It was 20 000EEK (~1200Eur). I started building own PC since from the beginning (in 94) - buying/upgrading piece by piece every few months. My very first was 8088 XT 4,77Mhz CGA even without HDD (5'25 diskettes only) and DOS 3.x. My first sound card was SoundBlaster Pro (22kHz stereo compare to 44kHz SB16). I was very happy that day, it's like buying new car or smth, because I was able to play Wolfenstein 3D with music. Somewhere near to 2000 I also got P 200 MMX (overclocked to 216). This time I already had Windows 98 just like in this video.
Windows 98 supports HTTPS/SSL, unfortunately all the ciphers it supports are old and weak so most websites don't support them any more and require newer encryption standards such as TLS. You could set up a HTTP proxy on a modern Linux box as a gateway, but obviously a lot of websites won't work in the old browsers available on Windows 98 (Opera might be your best bet).
I believe, beside older encryption standards being deprecated, it is also a matter of expired root certificates that come preinstalled in Windows. I think they last 30 years or so, so by now all root certificates preinstalled in Win98 are expired and no longer valid hence the browser can't recognize the validity of the certificates provided by modern websites.
@@tcl78 that's true - you can find updated root certificates and manually install them which with some browsers can get you to a point where some websites will still load but it is SO slow just due to those old single-core 1ghz and below CPUs. I have a retro gaming rig built with a 1.13ghz Pentium III, 512mb RAM and dual booting 98SE and 2k. After much fiddling and some weird other browser I think named after a fruit, it can load some websites but we're talking 30+ seconds sometimes just to load a page, and scrolling lags even on mainly text content.
@@kalmtraveleror.... Do none of the shit mentioned in the comments and use a modern PC... One thing a retro PC is useless for is modern Internet, complete waste of time... Use it to play games, apps, word.. Pretty much anything except Internet
Awesome. This went exactly how I expected it. I have a win98 virtual machine with visual studio. Everything works and it's crazy fast. It also took a lot of setup time to get the original 98se install running in virtualbox. It was a work thing at the time to edit some old code. Now I need to dig up Age of Empires and the original Warcraft.
@@darlingtonhp That's pretty much it. I got what I expected. There are drivers available for everything. You need to download them with some other computer and put them on a virtual hard drive. Then attach that virtual hard drive to the 98se vm. You have to do all that just to get 98se drivers for a virtualbox network card. Once you have that, proper video drivers, and a browser you are mostly good to party like it's 1999.
I was born in 1982, which I think is considered the first year of "the millennial". I grew up with computers like this. Thank goodness computers and software have come so far from this.
Man, this was a fun little trip. It does bring a bit of a chuckle when I see someone much younger navigating technology that was ubiquitous and seen as "cutting edge" for its time, but that "time" was almost a quarter-century ago, lol. It's like watching someone try to work a Walkman who's never seen one before. The wild thing about it, really, is how it does not FEEL to me like it was that long ago, but it must feel like an eternity ago to the person who's trying to use this stuff. It must have felt like longer in the past when us elder millennials visited this phenomenon upon our poor parents (or "the 'rents"/"parentals" as we used to say) when we had to learn to use things they were used to from their childhood/early adulthood, but technology jumps so fast these days that stuff used everywhere just 10 years ago now feels ancient to us in 2022. I have a Windows XP machine w/emulator that I use for old video game purposes, but man, I remember playing shit like Mechwarrior 2 or WarCraft II (something about the "twos" lol) on Win98/DOS. If anything, let this serve as a lesson to some that we spent the most significant parts of our lives not realizing they were significant.
I feel every inch of this comment... I feel lucky to remember the world (just) pre-order and mass mobile phones - when all we had was the landline for communication. And you're right - considering what has changed it doesn't feel that long ago..
@@eeaotly Same here. I played that endlessly. When I moved across the country, I was given a junk yard PC and StarCraft. So I got familiar with it again, because I had no TV at the time, lol. Fun shit. I still quote it to this day: "we are in the pipe, five by five!" (I know that's originally from Aliens, but still.)
It is amusing to watch this video as a 39 year old guy who began "hacking" the computers in middle school that were running Windows 3.1. I learned BASIC with Microsoft QBASIC on Windows 95 and then branched out into Visual Basic, PERL and C++ with the Teach yourself C++ in 24 hours book and CD. I upgraded my old computer from 95 to 98 and to XP before retiring it. I was surprised when you decided to use EDIT to start writing a C program. I wondered what compiler you would be using. I was hoping you would install QBASIC on the machine. You can run programs through the interpreter as well as compile them into exe files. Some sophisticated programs can be written in BASIC and will run great on Windows 98 but for nicer GUI experience, I would recommend Visual Basic.
totally agree, I mean coding in win 98, win me wasn't that pathetic that looks into this video :D I started coding in 98 and then I Liked win Me more than 98 so I stick with windows ME pretty much similar to 98 but with a modern look and feel. I used to code in Assembly, C and my friend was using VB6. So he was most like a GUI Desktop Application developer and I was embedded system developer. and yes, we spent a lot of our life's time on Windows 98. Even when xp was there it was really really hard to leave the 98 until I wasn't able to download drivers for modern computers that days so I had to finally say good bye to 98 and adopted XP. I used XP so long that It was hard to leave XP as well, finally I am using windows 7 and really it makes me cry that I had to move to windows 10 or up now. I hate switching my OS We were able to do programming, embedded system development, desktop application development, CLI application developement, game development, even web development with static html and JavaScript or VB Script. Also I love making HTML pages on Windows frontpage i guess, If I am not forgetting the name of the software.
@@ar2050 Good experience. If the young man in this video downloaded Borland C++ for Windows 98, this would have been a very different (and more rewarding) video. I don't recall if my Sams C++ book came with the Borland C++ compiler or if I got it after getting the book. But I wrote C++ programs in the Borland C++ compiler.
@@stevenrwh ture, although I didn't write code in borland C++ but I use to use DevC++ I guess, I didn't recall exactly. But Yeah, I think I was in my University for CS degree and I had Pantium 2 and I used DevC++ there. I actually wasn't much fan of command line tools even that days.
Honestly the design of 98 and xp was the best among all win versions. The star menu in the 7th was the best without that unused square links. The flat design of 10 and 11's Mac-style is a cr&p.
11:24 - 11:44 - Wow, got emotional. I used to log into my Win 98 PC at night for gaming (Price of Persia, wolfenstein 3d, Brian Lara Cricket 99) and I made sure to listen to this tune all the time. So many memories listening to it after 20 years I think
Ha, yeah I noticed that. I like Hallden's channel, but I think this vid should have been titled "Talking about, finding, setting up and playing games on a Windows 98 computer".
..no just no. This computer would be suited for visual basic 6.0 or C++, which is still used today or within the last 5 years for smart bomb manufacturing and other crap.
I knew this video was going to take me down memory lane but I didn't realize it would also make me miss Sweden. I was just there this summer visiting family. Double nostalgia.
You should probably take it apart and clean out all the dust. Power supplies generally don't last 20+ years so power fluctuations could be causing the PC to run slow and freeze up. Trying to find a replacement part might be a good idea.
Most people get a Win98 PC for DOS/Win98 gaming. There are tons of great games from that era. For programming you would be best sticking with Borland C++ 5 (Windows/DOS) or Visual Basic (Windows), or DJGPP if want to do it with DOS extender. Browsing internet on such an old OS is not a good idea as the underlying technologies had changed a lot, as you'd already found out. To ease transfer of programs from modern PC to the Win98 PC, a CF-IDE or SD-IDE adapter will be best, as you could prepare & load the files/games/utils/drivers on the modern PC, insert the card into the Win98 PC, then copy everything over (this is especially true if you're doing it in DOS). Getting a Gotek drive to replace the floppy would be great, but it is not essential (I have it but using the CF-IDE/SD-IDE most of the time).
The amount of patience required to operate early computers made them niche products. 😂 Back then I only knew old retired professors using them “for fun” and smart kids that figured out shortcuts and time saving methods. Imagine this guy using even earlier Windows versions 😂😂😂
Dude, that was SO funny. I had flashbacks to my 30's! LOL Even back then, Windows 98 left you staring out the window for long stretches of time... just waiting... Haha! Thanks for the entertainment!
If you had a PC in the 90's you basically needed to be your own personal IT guy. Computers never seemed to work right. TROUBLE SHOOTING was a way of life back then.
Damn that machine sounds like a plane! I recently got one of the first ever Macintosh computers! It’s always mind baffling using It and then using a m2 pro. Seeing how far they changed :D
We have a veritable computer museum at our house thanks to my husband being a designer in the '80s and our son being a collector of vintage computers and games...lots of wires and other stuff, LOL.
Something to note: - hard drives from this era are almost all dead or dying today, it will do you good to replace it with an SSD. (my hard drive from 1999 just died 2 weeks ago, that's what im currently doing, the computer took 10-20 minutes to load at times) - Modern browsers CONSUME LOTS of ram. My windows 95 laptop will bluescreen almost every time I run firefox on any modern webpage. Cool video tho, maybe you could try making a game on it
Wasn't there a cap of a maximum of 512 Mb allowed to be used on Windows 98? I think it remember that when transitioning to Windows Xp and still keeping Windows 98 on another partition and that it was a problem when going up to 1 gig of ram And I guess that makes tabbed browsing almost unusable on Win 98 in this era since it eats so much ram. Right now I use 1.5 gigs with only 25 tabs open in Chrome. I mean with only 512 mb it probably would have meant a lot of swapping to and from the paging file with loads of extremely slow mechanical hard disc access!
I still remember learning to boot windows 3.x by typing win on dos prompt. The registry "improvements" were such a fad that there were special "guides" published for the purpose. 😀
Great video Kalle. How awesome it would be to have a PC like this upgraded to modern specs while having the same casing and peripherals. A bit of both worlds
These computers were very common in UK schools back in the day.. In fact, it is this computer I remember sitting at at when we found out about 9/11. A sad and scary day..
Windows MS paint icon can be copied and pasted into any new windows 10 and 11 machine and it will open up and work, which is odd, its like the entire app is the icon.
This really makes you appreciate "modern" computers. Try going back to the days when you had to install TCP/IP yourself, and you'll really feel like.a hero.
For anyone wondering... using 'copy con' followed a location and filename such as 'C:\Users\Mossy\Documents\file.txt' in a terminal on a Windows 11 64-Bit will allow you to create files and add contents to said file. Therefore, during ssh connections, and maybe docker containers (Not tested), you can actually do command line scripting. It is a little restricting through but have a play around, its always fun learning new tricks!
If you want a more authentic 90s programming experience, I strongly recommend you to install the era-appropriate versions of Visual C++ and Visual Basic. The nice part about these two is that your programs will run on modern Windows as well - remember, Microsoft is THE backwards compatibility company. Also DOS was still huge back then so maybe give Turbo Pascal a try as well.
Delta Force 2 , Quake 3 , Half Life, AoE and AoE2, Starcraft, Driver, Fifa 2000 and more, All stuff that I played on my parent's Pentium 2 with Win98. Good old times
My dad still uses unironically windows 98 on one of his computers. He also has a laptop (with windows 10 i think), and his pc for work that has windows 10 too. I remember playing some old Microsoft simulator and SimPark on the windows 98 when I was younger.
My first thought when I read the title of the video was that this was the operating system that I used to play Age of Empires 2 on, and I was pleased to see you load it up!!
Microsoft Windows 98, like Microsoft Windows 95, uses Plug-n-Play for devices and if I remember for Internet / network connectivity. Back to the future and the trials and tribulations of Microsoft Windows circa 1990s.
This would make a great old school gaming machine, I guess; just make sure the PC's configuration supports it. You can even push it to some post-2000 titles and see if it can handle it. It wouldn't hurt getting a hold of some floppy disks. Despite their small storage capacity, these are natively supported on these machines. Another thing you could do is find some old software and play around with it. These computers are also very useful for document processing, so writing documents should be just fine; just install Office 97 and you're good to go. It would just feel like typing on a typewriter with this thing. I know what I would do, if I was a novelist, I would use one of these old machines to write my books and then store my work on Floppy Disks; these documents are probably just a few kilobytes large and they should fit just fine on Floppy disks. Now this suggestion depends on you, but if you are willing to wipe the hard drive, you can test drive other versions of Windows, experience with Windows upgrades or even try out other operating systems. I fixed an old PC myself. It's probably 1 decade younger than the one you have here, but I've been struggling for 12 years to figure out what was wrong with it, and now I made it a fully functional machine that I can use as my home PC and do whatever digital era requires me to do. It just gave me such satisfaction when I pulled it through with it. I don't know, overall making an old computer fit for nowadays' usage is very satisfying.
Not really any point using a old PC for retro games as most of the best windows 98 games are available on Android Google play or you can just use a emulator on a modern windows machine.
@@HOLLASOUNDS Alright, but if I want the look and feel of the original hardware and if I already have the old PC, I can might as well use it. What I tried to do with my PC is to check the motherboard and to upgrade the components to the best ones that it can support, so I can make the computer as current as possible. I had a project like that and it turned out a huge success, bringing the thing to Windows 8.1 and I could push it even to 10 if I want to.
18:24 You was tired :-) Yeah bro it was really painful to use these devices/OSes. I was lucky when it booted. Most of the times it was freezeing on w98 logo
My grandpa had Windows 98, but not really for internet, I only played games on it like, minesweeper or 3D Pinball Space. The other game I play on there is... I don't remember what's it called, but I played checkers/chess with a dog and a rabbit. When I played checkers or chess with a dog, like if I'm playing well, he would pick up his little umbrella over him and go like, "Please don't be so hard me." Yea, so I just thought I'd bring that up. Maybe old Microsoft is on there or have to install it. As far as internet when we got Windows 98, in the early 2000s, we had to connect through a phone line, I suppose everyone else did some old ISP or whatever way to get connected.
Not a bad startup time for such an old machine. I don't know if disk defragment was a thing yet but that would make things better. There are a couple of other tools that will make it better. People also host their own websites on the network then download from that computer. Last note, if you want an old computer I think XP would give the best XPerience for retro and modern plus they make Mypal for a secure browser on XP. This was a great video!!
As a someone, who raised in 90's with computers as teen (it was unusual, most people didnt care about computers in that time, or didnt have at home one), I can tell you, that at home, you would not have internet, or using internet explorer or any browser. It was very unusual, most people had nothing, or modems (33k bpps or 56k), the pages had to be optimalized for those speeds. You did mistake to run browser as first, but 99% people would not have or used internet/internet explorer in that time on home computers. Depends also on country. In USA it was more spread, because they had more money, and so, also had money for computer early. In eastern europe, brazil, etc... they didnt have money for computer to have at home, not mention internet. Even in 1997, 90% of my class-mate DIDNt have computer at home. And net was only at school or jobs. (we used to use diskettes to move small files... usually pages, texts and documents, and small images (like 50k-100k gifs). Just want to say, you used computer improper way, it was in most cases used as single lone computer (without LAN or inet), at home. I mean in 1994-1999 times. You should use it for some games, Delphi 5.0, documents works, watching (small) videos, install some codecs, playing midi/ mp3's , put CD inside. Or print document. This is what was computer used in late 90's at home in 99% cases.
You took me back to memory lane. I began using computers at work after graduating high school in 1990 with an IBM AT running DOS 3.1, Lotus 1-2-3 2.4. Not long after that I changed jobs and started using a Compaq 386 with DOS 5 and Windows 3.1. I cleaned a lot of Windows; but in 1994 I started using Linux. I remember when Windows 95 came out. I stopped using MS operating systems and products after Windows XP. It was a great OS which brought an easy to use operating system and applications to the masses.
Yeah, the first boot with one and a half minutes was telling. That took much too long. The system is probably completely clogged up and needs a re-install to run cleanly again. That was totally normal, back in that time, and a good way to get cheap second hand machines. Often people said "meh, my computer is getting slow, I need a new one..." I have been using computers since the 80s and used Win 98 for several years. If you routinely cleaned your system, invested in enough ram for your computer, and did not expect wonders, it provided a decent work platform. I liked the system.
Maybe an idea would be to code something basic, like a simple command line-like program, such as expand or banner, and see how long it takes for the computer to finish running it. Basically, something that runs instantly nowadays, but in that hardware a couple (noticeable) milliseconds more. But then maybe it would also run fast, who knows!
"Okay let's try this.... hmmmm ok that didn't work. .... What about this? Hmm ok computer can't do that... Lets write some text. Aaaannd computer is frozen"
Hi! I know the feeling and adrenaline you get running old computers, but in this case, I guess you could go with emulation. Windows 98 is DOS based so Dosbox would make the trick :-)
I Miss good old internet !!! Mirc32 , ICQ , MSN messenger , No ads ,ICM Call Manager (when you get a call on youor phone line while you are connected to internet ...
I'm over 60 and spent over 35 years as a software developer using ASM, C and C++. Not once did I require Google, we had access to better (Usenet for example) in the late 70s and 80s. No censors, trolls, and morons. It was great! Sadly you will never experience anything like it.
I used to program as a hobby when I was a teenager, early 2000's, little bit of Delphi (Pascal) and visual basic.
Back then IDE's used to come with loads of resources (help). I could learn Pascal just from help files, and I wasn't even a native speaker of English .
@maamardli I also think programming is cool٫ I mostly like python
Now the information is too much 😕
@@hippiestafariiyes, cant even focus on one thing :(
as more people come in towards and start using a new technology, the average iq falls down and the interactions start resembling the iq and the taste of the common denominator
Happy to sponsor! Nostalgia + tech... what's not to love?
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Just imagining how the person in the next bathroom stall felt as they heard you record a RUclips vlog
Mans was praying he didn’t fart😮💨
@@tzastin. I would've hoped for it tbh
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"Hey guys, today we're in a public bathroom! It seems like somebody here is shitting!"
For nostalgia purposes I have installed Windows 98 and Windows XP in a virtual environment. I love watching how fast the OS installs on modern day tech.
Questions can come in ⬆️.
You can paste the windows 98 ms paint single file onto windows 10 or 11 and it works.
What is the process to install windows 98?
Please tell
@@mohammadaaqib6984 No Reason other then nostalgia and to basic go back in time and use only what was available in 1998.
I have windows 98 and XP real computers for better nostalgia and old games. Virtual machines suck.
12:58 "it also doesn't really tell me what the problem was"
Ah yes, the classic Windows experience.
Questions can come in ⬆️.
Is it different in other OS?
@Jealous Jelly - It still doesnt 😉
Throughout this whole video, Kalle trying to get the piece of chocolate out and GETTING it out was my favourite part!
I was born in 1988 and still had one of these until around 2010. It's fair to say, that even Microsoft Office lagged all the time, but still it was considered cooler than writing documents by hand.
Bro you can’t use youtube even when you’re a adult
You can use RUclips when you’re 8-18 years old
Sorry but you can’t use youtube
@@Samsung_tech2 keep eating your crayons kid
I still dont understand why Microsoft cant bring back the Windows 98 startup sound.
Seeing a programmer work with a computer versus an information technology consultant work with a computer was mind-blowing.
What was interesting about it? I ask as a software dev.
@@cornwat It's the focus on the programming libraries available versus the capability of the hardware to run created programs.
Example:
LGR does Windows 98 gaming builds with old hardware as an IT guy.
Hallden was concerned about the kinds of programs he could create on old hardware in Windows 98.
A fascinating trip down memory lane for this old dude. I got into computers in the early nineties, when Windows 3.11 was predominant. It crashed regularly, and the promise of the next major Windows OS release -- Windows 95 -- was to correct that crashing, in addition to providing a new UI experience. Win 95 delivered as promised (mostly), and I remember having all sorts of consulting work going around to companies and upgrading their PCs to Win 95. It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.
@Baal Hamoun - It's difficult to compare the old days to now. The first computer I ever owned was a Macintosh SE, which I bought in college in 1988. It was basically a goldfish-bowl black-and-white screen, and of course no internet connectivity (because internet didn't exist then). So it was a glorified typewriter. I remember I had to buy more memory for it, and I decided to max it out at 8 mb of RAM. I figured that would be enough to last me for a lifetime.
YUP! I remember back when I thought punching a hole in the floppy disk would allow it to be "high density". Oh, the computer tried to save 1.44MB of data but WOW was it always full of lost clusters and corrupt files as a result!
I remember back then just the computer guy everyone knew would get jobs easy upgrading. Me and my buddy mark upgraded an entire office building with windows 98se
Classic... First OS I have ever worked is windows 98... .I still remember playing my first PC games in Windows 98 .. Road Rash, Wolf 3D, Prince of Persia ... Nostalgia!!!!
I dont know why I kept My old 90s PC it probably dont even work, I'm interested to see if it does.
Hahah bro, I’m somewhat of a millennial too and I was hit with a lot of nostalgia! But watching you trying to wait patiently had me rolling!! I feel your pain brother 😂
Wifi? On that old thing? That's a good one, dude! 🤣👍👍
Configurable settings for hardwares and software...if in case the floppies or the pcmcia ports are busy.. 🙌🙅👍
I have been trying to find an old school computer for SO long but they are now considered "vintage" 😭
Just a few years ago I always saw a bunch of 286-pentium systems at local recycling center... Now suddenly they have become rare even there.
Now this brings me back.
My parents bought our first PC back in 1995. It came with MS-DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.11. 2 months after we got it Windows 95 released and we've spent the equivalent of about 100 Euro to upgrade the PC from 4 to 8 mb of RAM. Half a year after that we upgraded the 486 with a CD-ROM drive, sound card and speakers. So we finally had some sound coming out of it. Fun times.
Btw. Solitaire and Minesweeper were always part of Windows since at least Windows 3.11. So they should be on the Windows 98 CD if they were not installed on it.
I also had 6.22 and Windows 3.1 in my case. Which 486 you had? SX? DX?
@@PrototypeZZ it was an Cyrix 486 DX/2 80 MHz. So it was very similar to an Intel DX/2 66
@@SandsOfArrakis I had 286 those time and got 386 SX33 - it incredibly level upped my PC because I was able play doom (DOS4GW started since 386 - EMS memory). Later in 98-99 I got 486 DX4/100.
In 95 486 was very expensive - seems you were from rich family. What sound card you got with upgrade?
@@PrototypeZZ when we bought the 486, the Pentium was already out :)
The sound card was a Soundblaster 16 clone. A Topmedia I believe.
The first PC i built for myself was a P 233 MMX in a high tower. That one did have a Creative sound card. An AWE64 Value. Which was a huge improvement.
My parents were never rich. Just ordinary hard working people.
@@SandsOfArrakis Well if anyone could be able to buy new PC those days we considered them as rich. I remember myself starring at 486 in store. It was 20 000EEK (~1200Eur).
I started building own PC since from the beginning (in 94) - buying/upgrading piece by piece every few months. My very first was 8088 XT 4,77Mhz CGA even without HDD (5'25 diskettes only) and DOS 3.x.
My first sound card was SoundBlaster Pro (22kHz stereo compare to 44kHz SB16). I was very happy that day, it's like buying new car or smth, because I was able to play Wolfenstein 3D with music.
Somewhere near to 2000 I also got P 200 MMX (overclocked to 216). This time I already had Windows 98 just like in this video.
Windows 98 supports HTTPS/SSL, unfortunately all the ciphers it supports are old and weak so most websites don't support them any more and require newer encryption standards such as TLS. You could set up a HTTP proxy on a modern Linux box as a gateway, but obviously a lot of websites won't work in the old browsers available on Windows 98 (Opera might be your best bet).
Many can also adjust and update the program as they are configurable.
I believe, beside older encryption standards being deprecated, it is also a matter of expired root certificates that come preinstalled in Windows. I think they last 30 years or so, so by now all root certificates preinstalled in Win98 are expired and no longer valid hence the browser can't recognize the validity of the certificates provided by modern websites.
@@tcl78 that's true - you can find updated root certificates and manually install them which with some browsers can get you to a point where some websites will still load but it is SO slow just due to those old single-core 1ghz and below CPUs. I have a retro gaming rig built with a 1.13ghz Pentium III, 512mb RAM and dual booting 98SE and 2k. After much fiddling and some weird other browser I think named after a fruit, it can load some websites but we're talking 30+ seconds sometimes just to load a page, and scrolling lags even on mainly text content.
@@kalmtraveleror.... Do none of the shit mentioned in the comments and use a modern PC... One thing a retro PC is useless for is modern Internet, complete waste of time... Use it to play games, apps, word.. Pretty much anything except Internet
Awesome.
This went exactly how I expected it. I have a win98 virtual machine with visual studio. Everything works and it's crazy fast. It also took a lot of setup time to get the original 98se install running in virtualbox. It was a work thing at the time to edit some old code.
Now I need to dig up Age of Empires and the original Warcraft.
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I think its because you are using modern hardware systems rather than this guy who is using an older version of hardware.
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That's pretty much it. I got what I expected.
There are drivers available for everything. You need to download them with some other computer and put them on a virtual hard drive. Then attach that virtual hard drive to the 98se vm. You have to do all that just to get 98se drivers for a virtualbox network card. Once you have that, proper video drivers, and a browser you are mostly good to party like it's 1999.
I was born in 1982, which I think is considered the first year of "the millennial". I grew up with computers like this. Thank goodness computers and software have come so far from this.
1980 is the first year of the millennials!
Some say 1980, others say it's a couple of years later. Personally I'd go with the latter, but then I despise generation labels.
Pew Research Center defines millennials as the people born from 1981 to 1996
The same man, I'm from '82 as well, my first computer was a 386 SX 33 Mhz with DOS 5 (not even Windows 3.10!)
Im so glad we moved past floppy disks. I lost so much time from losing work
What a blast from the past! I've kept most of all my old PC's as I upgraded them, but I sure do wish I still had 1 of these sitting around.
Man, this was a fun little trip. It does bring a bit of a chuckle when I see someone much younger navigating technology that was ubiquitous and seen as "cutting edge" for its time, but that "time" was almost a quarter-century ago, lol. It's like watching someone try to work a Walkman who's never seen one before. The wild thing about it, really, is how it does not FEEL to me like it was that long ago, but it must feel like an eternity ago to the person who's trying to use this stuff. It must have felt like longer in the past when us elder millennials visited this phenomenon upon our poor parents (or "the 'rents"/"parentals" as we used to say) when we had to learn to use things they were used to from their childhood/early adulthood, but technology jumps so fast these days that stuff used everywhere just 10 years ago now feels ancient to us in 2022. I have a Windows XP machine w/emulator that I use for old video game purposes, but man, I remember playing shit like Mechwarrior 2 or WarCraft II (something about the "twos" lol) on Win98/DOS.
If anything, let this serve as a lesson to some that we spent the most significant parts of our lives not realizing they were significant.
I feel every inch of this comment...
I feel lucky to remember the world (just) pre-order and mass mobile phones - when all we had was the landline for communication. And you're right - considering what has changed it doesn't feel that long ago..
I miss the old Star Craft.
@@eeaotly Same here. I played that endlessly. When I moved across the country, I was given a junk yard PC and StarCraft. So I got familiar with it again, because I had no TV at the time, lol. Fun shit. I still quote it to this day: "we are in the pipe, five by five!"
(I know that's originally from Aliens, but still.)
Dude you reaching for the chocolate is so hilarious, that made my night lol
It is amusing to watch this video as a 39 year old guy who began "hacking" the computers in middle school that were running Windows 3.1. I learned BASIC with Microsoft QBASIC on Windows 95 and then branched out into Visual Basic, PERL and C++ with the Teach yourself C++ in 24 hours book and CD. I upgraded my old computer from 95 to 98 and to XP before retiring it. I was surprised when you decided to use EDIT to start writing a C program. I wondered what compiler you would be using. I was hoping you would install QBASIC on the machine. You can run programs through the interpreter as well as compile them into exe files. Some sophisticated programs can be written in BASIC and will run great on Windows 98 but for nicer GUI experience, I would recommend Visual Basic.
totally agree, I mean coding in win 98, win me wasn't that pathetic that looks into this video :D I started coding in 98 and then I Liked win Me more than 98 so I stick with windows ME pretty much similar to 98 but with a modern look and feel. I used to code in Assembly, C and my friend was using VB6. So he was most like a GUI Desktop Application developer and I was embedded system developer. and yes, we spent a lot of our life's time on Windows 98. Even when xp was there it was really really hard to leave the 98 until I wasn't able to download drivers for modern computers that days so I had to finally say good bye to 98 and adopted XP. I used XP so long that It was hard to leave XP as well, finally I am using windows 7 and really it makes me cry that I had to move to windows 10 or up now.
I hate switching my OS
We were able to do programming, embedded system development, desktop application development, CLI application developement, game development, even web development with static html and JavaScript or VB Script. Also I love making HTML pages on Windows frontpage i guess, If I am not forgetting the name of the software.
@@ar2050 Good experience. If the young man in this video downloaded Borland C++ for Windows 98, this would have been a very different (and more rewarding) video. I don't recall if my Sams C++ book came with the Borland C++ compiler or if I got it after getting the book. But I wrote C++ programs in the Borland C++ compiler.
@@stevenrwh ture, although I didn't write code in borland C++ but I use to use DevC++ I guess, I didn't recall exactly. But Yeah, I think I was in my University for CS degree and I had Pantium 2 and I used DevC++ there. I actually wasn't much fan of command line tools even that days.
Honestly the design of 98 and xp was the best among all win versions. The star menu in the 7th was the best without that unused square links. The flat design of 10 and 11's Mac-style is a cr&p.
Win2k was the best imo.
11:24 - 11:44 - Wow, got emotional. I used to log into my Win 98 PC at night for gaming (Price of Persia, wolfenstein 3d, Brian Lara Cricket 99) and I made sure to listen to this tune all the time. So many memories listening to it after 20 years I think
yeah same, got chills when i heard that boot up tune, havent heard that in ages.
@@blucuzzin such tunes are time machine. They take us back to younger days and we keep dwelling for sometime in the past.
This is actually a sick idea, would love to try it
edit: too bad no coding happened :(
Ha, yeah I noticed that. I like Hallden's channel, but I think this vid should have been titled "Talking about, finding, setting up and playing games on a Windows 98 computer".
"tried" at least he tried tho even tho was just a bit "hello world" thing.
Older operating systems really taught a generation of teens to have patience :)
- "yes, i have a old pc running Windows 95..."
- " cool! Thanks!"
- "Here my Macbook Pro"
Classic Apple fan trolling!
Awesome man, aways love your content!:)
..no just no. This computer would be suited for visual basic 6.0 or C++, which is still used today or within the last 5 years for smart bomb manufacturing and other crap.
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As an Aussie, I find it so peculiar that you listen to Hamish and Andy. I loved listening to those guys back in the day. Hello from down under!
I thought it sounded like them, but then I thought surely it wouldnt be lol
Haha nice! I lived in Aus for a year back in 2012
7:20 - U got a subscriber here just for trying to get that from under the seat. We both are fighters 🤣
I knew this video was going to take me down memory lane but I didn't realize it would also make me miss Sweden. I was just there this summer visiting family. Double nostalgia.
that boot up sound is so nostalgic. never heard it in a very long time.
This makes me nostalgic. I want to buy one such pc.
that startup sound. pure nostalgic. i think the music only came out first time after you install the windows 98. I have the Windows 98 second edition
You should probably take it apart and clean out all the dust. Power supplies generally don't last 20+ years so power fluctuations could be causing the PC to run slow and freeze up. Trying to find a replacement part might be a good idea.
Most people get a Win98 PC for DOS/Win98 gaming. There are tons of great games from that era. For programming you would be best sticking with Borland C++ 5 (Windows/DOS) or Visual Basic (Windows), or DJGPP if want to do it with DOS extender. Browsing internet on such an old OS is not a good idea as the underlying technologies had changed a lot, as you'd already found out. To ease transfer of programs from modern PC to the Win98 PC, a CF-IDE or SD-IDE adapter will be best, as you could prepare & load the files/games/utils/drivers on the modern PC, insert the card into the Win98 PC, then copy everything over (this is especially true if you're doing it in DOS). Getting a Gotek drive to replace the floppy would be great, but it is not essential (I have it but using the CF-IDE/SD-IDE most of the time).
Aahhaahha the expression at 11:37 is priceless! I always loved that intro music!
The amount of patience required to operate early computers made them niche products. 😂 Back then I only knew old retired professors using them “for fun” and smart kids that figured out shortcuts and time saving methods.
Imagine this guy using even earlier Windows versions 😂😂😂
"How come you have this sort of stuff?"
"I have tons."
"I love this old stuff."
My kinda guy lol
Dude, that was SO funny. I had flashbacks to my 30's! LOL Even back then, Windows 98 left you staring out the window for long stretches of time... just waiting... Haha! Thanks for the entertainment!
man, when that boot music kicked in, I was drawn back in time for few seconds and it was magical. Windows 98 was something else.
I was like: Is this guy Norweigan?
*Guy starts talking in Swedish*
If you had a PC in the 90's you basically needed to be your own personal IT guy. Computers never seemed to work right. TROUBLE SHOOTING was a way of life back then.
it still is
@@mapmoop451 haha 😄 😆 somethings will never change 😅
Damn that machine sounds like a plane!
I recently got one of the first ever Macintosh computers! It’s always mind baffling using It and then using a m2 pro. Seeing how far they changed :D
22:48 the floppy drive sound when you click the browse button is so nostalgic
I have never heard a more Swedish-sounding guy in my life. Hälsningar!
We have a veritable computer museum at our house thanks to my husband being a designer in the '80s and our son being a collector of vintage computers and games...lots of wires and other stuff, LOL.
Something to note:
- hard drives from this era are almost all dead or dying today, it will do you good to replace it with an SSD. (my hard drive from 1999 just died 2 weeks ago, that's what im currently doing, the computer took 10-20 minutes to load at times)
- Modern browsers CONSUME LOTS of ram. My windows 95 laptop will bluescreen almost every time I run firefox on any modern webpage.
Cool video tho, maybe you could try making a game on it
Wasn't there a cap of a maximum of 512 Mb allowed to be used on Windows 98? I think it remember that when transitioning to Windows Xp and still keeping Windows 98 on another partition and that it was a problem when going up to 1 gig of ram
And I guess that makes tabbed browsing almost unusable on Win 98 in this era since it eats so much ram. Right now I use 1.5 gigs with only 25 tabs open in Chrome.
I mean with only 512 mb it probably would have meant a lot of swapping to and from the paging file with loads of extremely slow mechanical hard disc access!
Honestly, I loved the aesthetic of windows 98
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Born in '68 I grew up with DOS 3.21.02 , Win 3.xx, and as a Highlight the old Netscape Navigator.
Not everything were better those days :)
As technology evolves..it is also designed to configure, develop, preserve details of importance.
this is veryy cold broo I like Retro SetUp in My LIfe :) heheheh because this is very real programmer Old ;)
I still remember learning to boot windows 3.x by typing win on dos prompt. The registry "improvements" were such a fad that there were special "guides" published for the purpose. 😀
Great video Kalle.
How awesome it would be to have a PC like this upgraded to modern specs while having the same casing and peripherals. A bit of both worlds
windows 98 won't accept modern specs
basically, it won't accept over 1 GB RAM
it won't accept 2 GHz or faster CPU
That's called a sleeper PC
A fascinating journey to the past. PCs were so much fun back then.
These computers were very common in UK schools back in the day..
In fact, it is this computer I remember sitting at at when we found out about 9/11. A sad and scary day..
Windows MS paint icon can be copied and pasted into any new windows 10 and 11 machine and it will open up and work, which is odd, its like the entire app is the icon.
The second you grabbed that chocolate from under your chair and ate it, instant like from me 😭.
This really makes you appreciate "modern" computers. Try going back to the days when you had to install TCP/IP yourself, and you'll really feel like.a hero.
Literally computers this old are good as a clock or screensaver!
For anyone wondering... using 'copy con' followed a location and filename such as 'C:\Users\Mossy\Documents\file.txt' in a terminal on a Windows 11 64-Bit will allow you to create files and add contents to said file. Therefore, during ssh connections, and maybe docker containers (Not tested), you can actually do command line scripting. It is a little restricting through but have a play around, its always fun learning new tricks!
This is just an alternative to use the more modern 'notepad file.txt' in the terminal
@@mossdem you can use "echo {WHATEVERYOUWANT} > {FILENAME}"
If you want a more authentic 90s programming experience, I strongly recommend you to install the era-appropriate versions of Visual C++ and Visual Basic. The nice part about these two is that your programs will run on modern Windows as well - remember, Microsoft is THE backwards compatibility company.
Also DOS was still huge back then so maybe give Turbo Pascal a try as well.
"Quiet far away, it's like 2,5 hours drive"
Americans, driving 8 hours to get bread: 🤯
Very Nostalgic that sound, I could see my childhood
Delta Force 2 , Quake 3 , Half Life, AoE and AoE2, Starcraft, Driver, Fifa 2000 and more, All stuff that I played on my parent's Pentium 2 with Win98. Good old times
Interesting video! It’s good to see an old computer
First 6 minutes. You’ve sponsored your friend’s Tesla and have taken a massive dump at IKEA. My hopes are still high for the rest of this video.
My dad still uses unironically windows 98 on one of his computers. He also has a laptop (with windows 10 i think), and his pc for work that has windows 10 too. I remember playing some old Microsoft simulator and SimPark on the windows 98 when I was younger.
My first thought when I read the title of the video was that this was the operating system that I used to play Age of Empires 2 on, and I was pleased to see you load it up!!
Nostalgia gets us back in time where Windows 98 OS is the most popular followed by Windows XP (SP1 to SP3).
My explorer crashed when I am watching this. Great video 👍
Microsoft Windows 98, like Microsoft Windows 95, uses Plug-n-Play for devices and if I remember for Internet / network connectivity. Back to the future and the trials and tribulations of Microsoft Windows circa 1990s.
i watched your vlog then i had fall asleep hehehe then i continue watching again now HAHAHAH watching from Philippines 🤣🇵🇭♥️
Good video, really enjoyed it! Please, make more video with your daily activities, hobbies, thoughts. Thank you!
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This would make a great old school gaming machine, I guess; just make sure the PC's configuration supports it. You can even push it to some post-2000 titles and see if it can handle it.
It wouldn't hurt getting a hold of some floppy disks. Despite their small storage capacity, these are natively supported on these machines. Another thing you could do is find some old software and play around with it. These computers are also very useful for document processing, so writing documents should be just fine; just install Office 97 and you're good to go. It would just feel like typing on a typewriter with this thing.
I know what I would do, if I was a novelist, I would use one of these old machines to write my books and then store my work on Floppy Disks; these documents are probably just a few kilobytes large and they should fit just fine on Floppy disks.
Now this suggestion depends on you, but if you are willing to wipe the hard drive, you can test drive other versions of Windows, experience with Windows upgrades or even try out other operating systems.
I fixed an old PC myself. It's probably 1 decade younger than the one you have here, but I've been struggling for 12 years to figure out what was wrong with it, and now I made it a fully functional machine that I can use as my home PC and do whatever digital era requires me to do. It just gave me such satisfaction when I pulled it through with it. I don't know, overall making an old computer fit for nowadays' usage is very satisfying.
Not really any point using a old PC for retro games as most of the best windows 98 games are available on Android Google play or you can just use a emulator on a modern windows machine.
@@HOLLASOUNDS Alright, but if I want the look and feel of the original hardware and if I already have the old PC, I can might as well use it. What I tried to do with my PC is to check the motherboard and to upgrade the components to the best ones that it can support, so I can make the computer as current as possible. I had a project like that and it turned out a huge success, bringing the thing to Windows 8.1 and I could push it even to 10 if I want to.
18:24 You was tired :-) Yeah bro it was really painful to use these devices/OSes. I was lucky when it booted. Most of the times it was freezeing on w98 logo
It was worth it to see Age of Empires. And to hear that critical stop error sound. :)
Basically, once you get to windows 95, you have a modern computer.
My grandpa had Windows 98, but not really for internet, I only played games on it like, minesweeper or 3D Pinball Space. The other game I play on there is... I don't remember what's it called, but I played checkers/chess with a dog and a rabbit. When I played checkers or chess with a dog, like if I'm playing well, he would pick up his little umbrella over him and go like, "Please don't be so hard me." Yea, so I just thought I'd bring that up. Maybe old Microsoft is on there or have to install it. As far as internet when we got Windows 98, in the early 2000s, we had to connect through a phone line, I suppose everyone else did some old ISP or whatever way to get connected.
In that era, computers were used mainly for accounting. People used programs like Quattro Pro, instead of Excel.
LOl, I worked on computers systems way older than this, like Windows 3.11. And many computers before that. Nice to see this again.
Not a bad startup time for such an old machine. I don't know if disk defragment was a thing yet but that would make things better. There are a couple of other tools that will make it better. People also host their own websites on the network then download from that computer. Last note, if you want an old computer I think XP would give the best XPerience for retro and modern plus they make Mypal for a secure browser on XP. This was a great video!!
As a someone, who raised in 90's with computers as teen (it was unusual, most people didnt care about computers in that time, or didnt have at home one), I can tell you, that at home, you would not have internet, or using internet explorer or any browser. It was very unusual, most people had nothing, or modems (33k bpps or 56k), the pages had to be optimalized for those speeds.
You did mistake to run browser as first, but 99% people would not have or used internet/internet explorer in that time on home computers. Depends also on country. In USA it was more spread, because they had more money, and so, also had money for computer early. In eastern europe, brazil, etc... they didnt have money for computer to have at home, not mention internet. Even in 1997, 90% of my class-mate DIDNt have computer at home.
And net was only at school or jobs. (we used to use diskettes to move small files... usually pages, texts and documents, and small images (like 50k-100k gifs).
Just want to say, you used computer improper way, it was in most cases used as single lone computer (without LAN or inet), at home. I mean in 1994-1999 times.
You should use it for some games, Delphi 5.0, documents works, watching (small) videos, install some codecs, playing midi/ mp3's , put CD inside. Or print document. This is what was computer used in late 90's at home in 99% cases.
Thank you for this video, man. It was awesome watching all those things you tried and believe me, I felt your pain hahaha
I’m sorry, Hamish and Andy for the road trip. Brilliant!
Our childhood memories.
Time flies by real fast.
You took me back to memory lane. I began using computers at work after graduating high school in 1990 with an IBM AT running DOS 3.1, Lotus 1-2-3 2.4. Not long after that I changed jobs and started using a Compaq 386 with DOS 5 and Windows 3.1. I cleaned a lot of Windows; but in 1994 I started using Linux. I remember when Windows 95 came out. I stopped using MS operating systems and products after Windows XP. It was a great OS which brought an easy to use operating system and applications to the masses.
The classic!!!! Nice setup bro 😅
Yeah, the first boot with one and a half minutes was telling. That took much too long. The system is probably completely clogged up and needs a re-install to run cleanly again. That was totally normal, back in that time, and a good way to get cheap second hand machines. Often people said "meh, my computer is getting slow, I need a new one..."
I have been using computers since the 80s and used Win 98 for several years. If you routinely cleaned your system, invested in enough ram for your computer, and did not expect wonders, it provided a decent work platform. I liked the system.
17:31 that's the good ol' DOS editor
1998 I was 1 years old damn I'm old where did the time go by
I was 14 lol.
I really love your videos. Greetings from Argentina!
Maybe an idea would be to code something basic, like a simple command line-like program, such as expand or banner, and see how long it takes for the computer to finish running it. Basically, something that runs instantly nowadays, but in that hardware a couple (noticeable) milliseconds more. But then maybe it would also run fast, who knows!
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you made it look so hard and it really isnt..
"Okay let's try this.... hmmmm ok that didn't work. ....
What about this? Hmm ok computer can't do that...
Lets write some text. Aaaannd computer is frozen"
Weird but really good . Whole video is nice 👍. Need more like this..
Hi! I know the feeling and adrenaline you get running old computers, but in this case, I guess you could go with emulation. Windows 98 is DOS based so Dosbox would make the trick :-)
I have My old 90s windows PC in My cupboard hasn't been termed on in over 20 years, I dont even know if it works, I dont know why I keep it.
I Miss good old internet !!!
Mirc32 , ICQ , MSN messenger , No ads ,ICM Call Manager (when you get a call on youor phone line while you are connected to internet ...
I would literally piss on a mountaintop in order to obtain that monitor.