Building a Better Windows 98 PC! The Megaluminum Monster
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- In 2019 we put together the Lazy Green Giant: a Win98 Pentium III computer with Voodoo 3 and Aureal Vortex 2 cards. Can't say I was ever 100% satisfied with it so it's time for a rebuild! Now with a SCSI2SD hard disk replacement, 360k floppy drive, and dual sound cards. AWE yeah.
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Since making this video I've installed a SCSI extension, DVD-ROM, HDD indicator etc. _Check out the update video here!_
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I had that case back in the day !! I still have it in the loft but i drilled out all the rivets and flatpacked it . Could not bring , myself to throw it out.
@BriPlaysRB Windows ME (Many Errors) is heresy!
@BriPlaysRB Windows 2000 was more like the Windows 98 interface on Windows XP. XP and 2000 were very similar under the hood, ME was more like 98 "Third Edition" and was a buggy nightmare.
LGR I’m trying to restore a Windows me pc but the graphics card died and I need help
Could you please link the Case? Im searching for a Case to put my Threadripper in.
The year is 2020. We have finally been able to afford a top of the line computer from 22 years ago
I wish that were true, the prices are going up again dangit
Thanks to videos like this all the new old stock is getting bought up and priced up. Should've made a 90s system back in 2013.
s8wc3 I live in Australia and prices for older pc’s have gone up in recent years thanks to Phil’s Computer Lab whenever he uploads a retro pc related video. I still wish to find a Compaq Deskpro EN with a Pentium 3 processor so I can slap a GeForce FX 5500 inside it as they are great retro pc graphics cards for running Windows 95/98 pc games from 1997-2002.
@@s8wc3 Why not emulate then?
@@Razee41 When you look up boring in the dictionary it says "see: emulation"
5:05 - There's nothing more permanent than a temporary fix that works.
Truer words have never been typed.
We call that Permanary. Notice the suttle emphasis on permanent....
best comment
Speakers in my car doors are still connected with duct tape and hope, so I feel this comment.
I hear that it's a long way to temporary.
The sliding motherboard tray needs to be a thing again in today's times. It would be so convenient
3Dgameman "Unfortunately it does not come with a removable motherboard tray."
That case he used is just really awesome. If i had one i would definitely swap my rig into it.
I would love to have that
That is an awesome feature, wonder why it didn't catch on. I'd love to use this case for a modern system but don't think there would be enough cooling.
@@TranceHistorian That little intake and exhaust setup genuinely caught me off guard. I guess thermals really didn't matter as much for gaming setups back in those days?
It endlessly tickles me that you upgrade components in long outdated hardware with newer... long outdated hardware. I love it.
This is poetry in some way lol
Me too :)
What CPU is it?
"I just don't feel like doing it" clearly Clint is attempting to put the "Lazy" back into Lazy Game Reviews in 2020.
"Now that we've got the shield in place, we can get to screwin'" -Lgr 2020
Remember to screw in with confidence.
Screw safe, shield yourself
lol
and "its so much deeper than i thought it would be"
All the while just dangling it out there
I cooked dinner specifically with the intention of eating it while watching this. This is the good life.
Mm dinner. Hope it was tasty!
@@LGR Quite!
I thought i was the only guy who only watches these while eating
Same, but for me it was 3am toast
As did I : ) And not the first time, either.
"Ooo IRQs, I miss those" said no one ever.
Nice build!
"No! You may not interrupt my requests!" - LGR (probably)
Except for all those people who prefer good ol' PS/2 input devices with hardware IRQs, over the "modern" USB stuff with polling only.
@@GeckonCZ But the polling is so fast that it is not noticeable. The only thing that I can think of is in an old server room. KVM switches using PS/2 are still around because replacing them is pretty expensive. Besides, seeing that most servers are virtual anyway, there is little need for a keyboard, mouse and monitor except during setup of the host hardware. IDK for sure, I've setup virtual servers but never setup the host hardware.
@@GiSWiG Polling will never be as fast as hardware interrupt. But yeah, unless you actually measure it, the delay won't be noticeable at all in most situations. PS/2 keyboard will however be more reliable, the USB stack can and sometimes tends to crash, which will render your USB peripherals unusable. But that's only relevant in the server environment really. And even there it matters less and less, thanks to virtualization and other factors. Oh and then there is also the placebo effect :)
Clint: - proceeds to list off every individual technical spec of his computer -
Also Clint: "We have some thingies here!!"
Not mutually exclusive
"It's so much deeper than I thought it would be... oh that's what I said"
LMAO
"Nope, nope, what am I doing. Gotta install the I/O panel first."
I've built countless PCs and that's still me every damn time.
Now i know, iam not alone.
It amazes me that so few motherboards have pre-installed or integrated I/O covers. My new motherboard is actually the first I've used that has this feature lol
Hello, I'm John. And I keep forgetting to install the I/O panel first.
Guess I got lucky with my motherboard: it's integrated on the back.
I still haven't put mine on. I don't feel like taking out the mobo so I left it as is.
Why is LGR always so comforting to watch?
Amazing job as always man!
its the jazz music and enthusiasm. thx lgr
@Code Bunny I watch LGR thrifts on bus rides home. It's extra fantastic when it rains too
@Code Bunny Finally, someone that mentions it! Both this channel and science elf narrators have a very soothing voice. When I'm stressed I usually watch LGR and I feel better :D
king o the cozy
His video's really do make for an easy and relaxing watch. Love watching his stuff just before bedtime, or in the background while working on stuff.
Broke: integrated sound and graphics
Woke: Dual graphics cards
Bespoke: Dual sound cards
@SNES Nes uncultured
Clint is getting ever closer and closer to the *perfect* Duke 3D build.
This is the era I did most of my computer tinkering, so this is straight up my jam.
I lusted after one of these cases but could never afford one.
yeah... a p2 was my second computer ever.. p2 300mhz with an ati rage pro and some cheapo terratec soundcard, which both eventually got replaced by a 16mb voodoo banshee and the first soundblaster live and upgraded with a creative dvd encore kit... aaah, the good old days
+1 to that :D --A child of the 90s
A 1ghz coppermine P3 was my first "all new everything" build. I built plenty before that of everything I could find used (Amd k2 & k3s, P1 166 oc to 250 stable, 486 with overdrive, horribly unreliable 386). C64 was my first computer. A buddy had a computer shop & let me root through all the used stuff, & I did it right & bought all my new stuff from him too.
I remember being excited to have a DVD player in my pc as a kid XD
Yeah, same here.. I was beyond excited to have the ability to burn CD's, lol..Sounds bad, but that's how I got gas money. People would give me a list of 12-15 songs they wanted and I would scour Limewire for them, download them, burn them and sell them the CD for $5, haha 😄..$5 would go a long way. It's crazy looking back and thinking about all that stuff..
Same
and watching movies!!!!
Yeah nowadays I'm let down when I find the case I ordered doesn't support them lol. Hopefully I can work up the money to swap the case.
Smart man. Too bad Spotify exists, or you could make a decent small business selling customized mixtapes! And in a big city you might still be able to run it.
Forgetting to install the IO panel first is a mandatory, unskippable step to every PC build
"Now, with our shield in place, we can get to screwin'" ... Tshirt gold.
@@dumbidiot2698 And why is that? Seriously, that would be a hilarious t-shirt. Nothing I'd wear to a job interview but certainly to the bar or just hanging out with friends.
So anyway, I started screwin
Told your wife that last weekend
Or yo momma
“I don’t feel like doing this today” -LAZY game reviews 2020
Gee Clint why does your mom let you have two sound cards
I understood that 50's reference
A day after finding a copy of Duke 3D at Goodwill, I see a new LGR video!
Could it be a sign?
Prot-tip: Goodwill trains their employees in the back to never put out high value items on the shelves. They instead send anything they deem as valuable to their website for auction. Go check their website to see all the things they won't let you get your hands on. New phones, newer laptops, tons of great stuff is withheld from us. Instead, go support Salvation Army and other thrift stores that put all the cool stuff out on the shelves for us to find.
@@adultlunchables I know of the online ShopGoodwill store, have scored some nice stuff on there. Unfortunately Goodwill holds a monopoly on the thrift store business in my particular area.
Your face your ass what's the difference
Its a sign it's time to play Duke again.
No.
At "11:36" I was yelling IO Shield!!! Good thing you heard me.
Keep calm and keep repeating "this isn't The Verge. This isn't The Verge. This isn't The Verge."
@@StCerberusEngel I followed The Verge guide had no problems, had a great smoke machine!
Good thing he had a Swiss Army knife that hopefully had a Philips head screwdriver in it that could screw out that brace with confidence.
[Laughs in Gamers Nexus]
smartroadbiker i saw someone follow it there was the magic smoke
Really dark... 🎶
I can't see shi- 🎶
I actually love that removable motherboard tray I guess you'd call it. Very convenient for building, I'd honestly like to see that more mainstream.
Dang, that aluminum case is no joke. Looks slick even by today's standards.
Damn straight man. I need me one of those. :D
"A Lian-Li, oooooh!" - me, the moment the box appeared
Will Marone Yep, Lian Li is always a win.
Never even knew they existed back then. For me my goto was always Antec - before that it didnt matter
@@umageddon Antec? Plebs...
Niek Joosten hey now! Antec had some damn nice cases
@@umageddon antec piano black finish silent series... but yeah doesn't hold a candle to the build quality and thickness of the steel Lian Li uses. They did nice design and nice features, Lian Li did super classy tanks.
And the motherboard tray is removable.
Somewhere in the world 3D Game man is happy.
"That is so much deeper than I thought it would be. That's what I said"
- LGR, 2020
Windows 98 User in 1998: "It's amazing to think about what computers will be like in 20 years."
LGR in 2020: "Building a Better Windows 98 PC!"
Wow, I kinda legit want that case for a modern build.
Or a case that requires a physical key to power it on!
@@TerryTateOfficeLinebacker760 That will be super-cool!
No dust filters. Not in a lifetime!
@@TerryTateOfficeLinebacker760 Look up "Key Switches" or "Keylock Switch" and you should find exactly what you want, just get a 2-pole switch for the 2 wires on your normal microswitch and wire that in place. Obviously would require retrofitting to a case but drilling a hole is pretty simple. There are modern cases with key interlocks but it's virtually only found in business/enterprise.
Mine has dust filters and is a older model. I have a 1060/8700 build in it love the look. Just wish mine had usb 2.0 like his mine is usb 1.1
I wish modern cases had a slide out mobo tray like that.
There are cases that have removable mobo trays, some even designed to be usable outside the case as a little bench PC "holder," but many cases with these kinds of features cost a few hundred dollars U.S. They probably cost a lot back then too.
Overall I think there are much nicer case designs these days than back then. Everything is modular and screwdriverless these days, and made out of better materials than thin stamped aluminum.
@@HappyBeezerStudios Buy whatever panel material you want. There was not a single feature nor material offered decade(s) ago that isn't still offered, and many new options now exist. You want cheap stamped aluminum with holes in it? You can still get it. But you can also get much nicer filtered airflow with fans so large and quiet they'd blow the minds of PC builders from the turn of the century.
@@delphicdescant just FYI, this wasn't cheap stamped aluminum. everything was cut out of heavy sheet stock. this case was like $300 back in 2003.
Ahh f***ing around with windows settings for hours, that takes me back.
Censoring yourself is fucking stupid and serves no purpose
jbfarley what, you’re gonna police how people choose to express themselves?
@@jbfarley I was just doing it to be nice.
I remember when I just used to mess around with the windows xp settings all the time
I mean more specifically getting the graphics drivers to work and their settings to optimum standards. Circa 1999 to 2005 after this I just started buying consoles instead for gaming.
27:09
Congratulations!
You found LGR swearing on YT!
Now time will collapse.
22:40 Really liked that stereo bit when watching with headphones.
I'm glad! I exaggerated the effect while editing the audio, seeing it was recorded by my mic in mono :)
@@LGR I noticed it yet I liked it. :)
nice all it needs a classic "designed for windows 98" sticker and a pentium 3 sticker lol
really awesome dude. thats perfect.
The PC-60 was the first case I bought and wasn't a hand-me-down. I loved the motherboard tray, and bought the official window side panel for it. The whole thing was so nice to work on.
I’m so happy, that I’m not the only one who forgets the IO shield...
RIP Lazy Green Giant (2019-2019)
Long Live the Large Gaming Rig!!! (2020 - 2222)
Me: Watches Linus' Fancy modern Builds
Also me: watches LGR building with components kids nowadays learn in their computer history books
It'd be fun see them collaborate on a video some day. Bit of a geographical inconvenience I know.
I learned about these from LGR. lul
9:40 was amazing. I've been working with computers for over 20 years and had never seen a pullout IO MB thing. Well guess what my next case is going to have.
That old-stock Lian Li is so damn nice.
That company has made some amazing cases over the years. My Xbox 360 case is one they made and helps prevent RROD thanks to the aluminum.
I concur. It`s an awesome case. I want one !!
"Now we've got the shield in place, let's get to screwing" - LGR, 2020
Around 2002 I had bought a Philips 5.1 sound card and have convinced myself that someday I would find a use for it along with numerous other computer components such as dual Pentium III tualatin motherboards with Rambus I'll never use ....so maybe before I drop dead I should ship all this stuff to lgr
"You do not have enough conventional memory?"
"Maybe we bought the wrong installation program?"
"Maybe we bought the wrong computer!"
Maybe you just need QEMM, that will fix it for sure :)
And once you clear that, IRQ management time >
LOL!😄
Yeah, all that F'-ing hassle can easly kill all the fun of putting together one before having use of it.
My setup runs a Voodoo 5500 with AWE64 gold sound, Pentium 3 @ 1GHz on socket 370 to slot 1 adapter, and is stocked with 640MB SDRAM 133MHz FSB. Uses a 32GB CF-card as HDD.
Runs nice.
@@draxoronxztgs1212 Tweaking your MS-DOS config files wasn't a thing anymore during the P3 era; that was all bug & pray in Windows :)
@@Dawwwg Yes, but it was still necessary to manage in Windows and BIOS if intalling the drivers didn't worked due to IRQ collisions. Some controller cards have their required IRQ and DMA settings to work at all that can not be changed. The Plug'and'Pray feature wasn't called that because it always worked as intended.
That version of UT brings back so many memories from my first LAN event good times :]
AcousticNRG My first ever online gaming experience. 56k modem, and the netplay was so damned smooth!
@@NightSprinter this and the very early versions of counter strike got me hooked on pc gaming :]
Back then it was THE perfect game for multi-player LAN party fun! Wonderful level design, fantastic weapons, and smooth gameplay! Loved it sooo much... and it's now available on GOG.com if wan't some old-school fun ;-)
My friends and I did a lot of LAN parties, and while ut made appearances, I always wanted to stick with ID games. I never liked the feel of ut nearly enough. This brings back that old rivalry feeling.
"Hello darkness my old friend!" LMAO xD I nearly choked on my ice cream! 😂
LMFAOOOOO
Dude as soon as your layers start building up like that, the entire job is a lost cause. Peel it off and start over. Also, try floating your cans in a bucket of hot water next time. I've done a lot of plasti-dip jobs and that is the ticket. Plasti doesn't have a texture if you do it right.
To this day, I still think Canyon.mid sounds like it could be opening theme music for a local TV newscast.
When you polish off the old case, please do it on video. Seeing a gunky tower turn to a fresh, bare case again sounds like great oddly satisfying material!
"It is so much deeper then I thought it would be~"
A moment for the history the books
Hello Darkness, my old friend....
That caught me off guard and got a really loud LOL out of me. I love this channel.
You seem to like many of the shareware games I liked, such as Jill of the Jungle and Commander Keen. You've got great taste. Do you happen to have Mario is Missing?
>Every time someone mentions Plasti-Dip
RCR: "Firm up your shocks, AND PLASTI-DIP MY SHAME!"
Aluminum? Could it be my favorite old case the Lian-Li PC-60?
Spoiler: It is! Yay!
I had a PC-60 and later a PC-60 Plus II, easily two of the best cases I've ever owned. Still have the Plus II laying around somewhere waiting for a project.
@@control_the_pet_population My first full PC build was in a PC-70. That case is a little unwieldy due to the size so I'd prefer a later PC-60 variant for a retro build of this era. The removable motherboard tray is a really cool feature that our originals lacked. Did the Plus II have that feature?
@@cutchyacokov No, the later one did not have the removable mobo tray, but it did have a better fan configuration allowing for 120mm intake/output. To be honest, I'm not really sure which model variant had which features... as Lian Li had a ton of slightly different configs / variations all under the "PC-60" umbrella. I purchased approximately 6-8 of them back in the early/mid 00s either for personal or client builds and probably wound up with 3-4 different variations. But the one I have left in my parts pile today is a fixed mobo tray with 120mm fan mounts... and the one with the removable mobo tray used 80mm or 92mm or one of those smaller sizes.
@@control_the_pet_population Dan's Data reviewed most of the Lian Li cases back then (or at least the ones that made it to Australia) and the reviews with clear pictures are still online, making it a great resource for working out which model is which.
"It's so much deeper than what I thought it would be!"
Thaaaat's what sh- I mean, HE - -said!
19.25 inches. It sets the depth of my computer shelf by 1/4 inch over the next deepest Enlight.
i hate my brain
even the new lian lis are really nice.... love my lancool 205. I'm surprised they were around back then, i didn't think they made cases that early.
This is MEGA AWESOME! I remember what it was trying to have two sound cards or video cards together in a Windows 98 PC. It was a pain! IRQs conflicts, drivers conflicts, BSODs, etc. It was really difficult. All my life I wanted to have two great sound cards together in a system like this "Megaluminum Monster", so: THANK YOU LGR FOR MAKING IT A REALITY and I can enjoy it watching this great videos!
"That's what I said"
16:35
All hail Emperor Clint Palpatine, also known as Darth Woodgrain.
Ooh, Lian-Li, my white whale case I could never afford as a broke teenager.
Win 98 SE was the best gaming OS I experienced. DOS gaming still available natively and FPS era in its prime, plus many of the gems like NFS Porsche Unleashed... I miss those times badly.
Have you ever played the INFAMOUS Finnish game called "Uuno Turhapuro muuttaa maalle"? It's one of the MOST difficult games in C64. Try to beat that game in a video. :D
You must remember to use glove when you touch the case, or else it will look like the mess i had back in 2004 ^^
KeTonic that’s a bit concerning assuming you’re referring to the sharp areas...
@@starman8853 He means fingerprints and smudges
@@amirpourghoureiyan1637 I know, I was just making a terrible joke since LGR mentioned he's had issues with sharp cases
@@starman8853 lol, we all know PCs have to have a blood sacrifice in order to work. That's why they have such bad design in the first place
Amir Pourghoureiyan true. Though let’s be honest, the designs of older computers such as IBM PCs or Commodore machines are far better than anything we have today
Lian li is most known for their VERY high quality cases
Though not always very well designed ones. The fit and finish is usually first class and the prices tend to be in the upper range of what you'd expect, though not outrageous.
When i saw the box, "huh, i had a PC case that opened like that too", when you took it out of the box. Holly sh*t nostalgia punch. I had that exact same case years ago. :)) Man, the memories.
I still have one! It's bad ass!
That case is perfect for the big/long graphics cards being made today.
I've had that same Lian Li case for the last 8 or 9 years; it's awesome! It's still the home for my first Quad build (Q6600). Started with XP MCE on it and now has a 3 year old version of 10, though doesn't get used much anymore. Was never crazy about being confined to 80mm fans in the back, but overall it's been a very durable case that stands up to a fair amount of abuse. It's had other computers stacked on it for a few years, it's been moved around countless times, and short of a few scratches it's still rock solid. Good move! Great channel too! I found you about 2 weeks ago and have been watching your videos. Great work and thank you!
If only RUclips was a thing 20 years ago
"Now, we can get to screwin'." Clint, PHRASING.
🍄
"Clint!" Lol
16:01 = Clint's Owen Wilson impression.. Spot-On.
This is a beautiful case. The quality is superb.
I recently bought a Lian Li Case thinking they were a cheapy company Oh My God how wrong was I. The finish on their products are second to none and this just reaffirms that!
Sometimes I wonder if Clint even reads these comments on his older videos.... Prob not lol
nahhh
OMG that case is monstrous! Being constantly short on living space I'm getting all sorts of anxiety just looking at it.
*When you see the zoom on LGR's eyelashes:*
Damn.. All the girls must be jealous of that length. Hell, I'm jealous.
They are something to behold indeed!
I literately have two different builds that I've been working on. With the exact same cards and cases. Not shocked at all. LOL
I used to day-dream about getting that exact case.
27:02 That made me laugh more than it should’ve.
At this rate you’re going to have your own mini functional computer museum every era and budget range
He already has it!
I had one of these Lian-Li cases back in the day and even went as far as buying the aluminium bezels for both the DVD and floppy drives. Really finished the case off nicely :)
15:55 to 16:13 😂😂😂😂😂 love it. Only people who put computers together will understand how this really feels.
Lian-Li cases are great, have been using the PC-60 for my 98 build and still using a PC-70 for my main rig since they first came out. I also have a Thermaltake Xaser II but it's quite a flimsy case and doesn't feel great compared to the Lian-Li ones
Windows 98 was always the great os for everyone.
11:58 & Clint starts 2020 off with some fine British innuendo, “now the shields in place we can get to screwing”. With the shield in place there won’t be any STDs or unplanned pregnancy.
18:17 - Wait, Bejeweled 2 can run on Windows 98? The hell?
Well that game does need at least 8gb of vram lol
@@NathanChisholm041 I'm good to go then lol
The only this is missing here is that you need an old fashion CRT monitor.
I don't think this guy believes in nostalgia.
@@100PercentOS2 lol, do you know what is pixels the magic that they transmit you through its fluorescents lights.
@@100PercentOS2 Heehhehhee. Good one 🤣🤣🤣
@@100PercentOS2 you're not very bright if you actually believe that
he does talk about why he chose this one in the green giant video
Miss the Windows 98 days. Thanks for keeping it alive for everyone.
Been completing those kind of stuff many years ago, back when I've been working in "hardware IT". Loved those kind of cases, since I've been building like 30 rigs a day, with cheap $10 cases, that kind of case was awesome change because it never cut, hurt, or otherwise spill your blood... xD
Awesome! I still have my lian li case from the windows 98 era. It's so well built I keep hoping I'll find a use for it, but it has two big holes in the top where my fans were for the transmission radiator I used to water cool it. Ahh memories
"Listen to this" SCRAPES METAL ...No, please don't do that.
I didn't wanted to belive my eyes at 9:40
How could such an amazing feature be gone by now
That's REALLY cool
Lian Li still do this, I recently bought a Lian Li case and it has this capability.
Much larger cpu coolers, gpus and cables tucked aroudn the backlargely made it impractical.
You are correct - I'm lucky enough to have one, and it's every bit as amazing as you think.
Lian Li showed a new case, the Odyssey X with this feature at CES
I have an SB Awe 32 sound card and it was my favorite of them all.. It actually was larger than the Awe 64 and it came with expansion options as well. It was definitely better than the newer Live cards I am running in some newer machines, which dont play very nice with vintage games from more than 20 years ago.
I still use my Lian li PC-60 for my main machine, it's been cut up and updated to support all in one coolers and a handle for dragging it around. But yeah, 8 core monster in a 15 year old case!
I can never get enough of your vintage builds. And aluminum is highly underrated.
I love the floppy sounds when you boot up that computer. Reminds me of good old times ☺
Rest in Peace, Woodgrain. We're now entering the decade of Clint loving aluminum.
Those Noctua Redux fans are actually fairly new, Noctua only started making those recently (At the time this video was recorded) and they're the budget option.
Edit: The new Noctua Redux fans are gray, not like those ones in the video, those are some random fans that were packed in the Redux boxes.
27:02 - 27:11 I am going to set that as my ringtone.
This is my ASMR
I love everything about this channel, and this video.
That said, as an Aussie,
Aluminium.
That is all. :)