@@oleq4200 Population Bomb isnt the right kind of Multihit move, each hit has 90% accuracy and it keeps going until it misses with a cap of 10. Putting a Wide Lens on is best play for it since it turns each hits 90% into 99%
Fun fact about the mirror herb: you can give it to a Pokémon during picnics and it will copy egg moves that it can learn. It doesn’t consume the herb either.
@@ThatHollowGuy yes. You have to forget a move and put the herb on the pokemon before setting up the picnic. Another pokemon in the party must know the move you are trying to learn.
Mirror Herb may not be crazy in battle, but its hidden out of battle effect is crazy good. If you give it to a pokemon with an open move slot and do a picnic it can learn any compatible egg move from another pokemon in your party that would normally require breeding to learn. Also it ignores egg groups. For instance: Iron Hands' Belly Drum copied over to an Azumarill. Really useful for a certain 7* raid.
Mirror Herb is actually the only way to teach Parting Shot to the Varoom line, since it's the only Pokemon in the Mineral egg group to learn it! Quite a handy little item.
@@NCemloen jeez man take a second to think about what they're saying in context to your comment, chill out. "Game Freak said "Let's skip breeding all together now!" *Just* bottle cap, and mirror herb." and they said "*but* you can't set ivs to 0 for pokemon that don't need those ivs" You have to breed to get low IV pokemon, a point brought up against you saying "Just bottle cap, and mirror herb" You cannot lower a pokemons iv with an item, and it requires solely breeding to get it.
Fun fact: Protective pads were actually introduced in Gen 7. I'm not gonna fault anyone for thinking they were new in Gen 8 because they weren't really used very much until SwSh. Still really interested to see where the new items fit in. I've seen mirror herb + Spicy Extract running around so maybe some of these items end up being really good.
Protective pads was used in singles on Urshifu rapid strike so that it didn't get wrecked by rocky helmet/rough skin or paralyzed with static. Punching gloves boosts surging strikes so it's literally just an upgrade to protective pads for Urshifu in singles at least
Tera-Water Water Shuriken on Protean Greninja with Dice might also be meaty. (Man, I hope the Isle of Armor tutors come back cuz Flip Turn on him might be great too.)
@@aghadlarhen9397 -You'd probably be better off terastralizing Ash-Gren and tossing out the dice to be completely honest - Ash-Gren Shuriken equals a four-strike regular Shuriken, on top of the better stats of Ash-Gren & the open item slot. Protean also doesn't really mesh well with Terastralization, so if your goal is a pure Water Greninja, just terastralize the Ash-Greninja.- I missed the Battle Bond rework so this is mostly irrelevant, whoops. Now, you wanna talk about abusing Dice, I think Heracross actually has a lot of potential. If you get Moxie boosts your Dice-powered Pin Missiles and Rock Blasts essentially let you become a budget Mega Hera.
@@Gardivanyth Ash greninja isn't in the game. Battle bond was changed to not have a transformation. I think it's just a minor stat boost or something now.
They're gonna just absolutely turn competitive on its head. I've never been more excited to try it. I never have before. I hope Skeledirge is viable. He's pretty slow.
@@thewatcher6969 if you've never played I rec watching online battles to get a feel. Skeledirge could do very well in trick room teams. That's where slow Pokémon go first. Setup will o wisp then torch song hex or slack off he'd be great
One thing to note about the abilities of the Paradox Pokémon is that their boosts aren't all the same. For Speed you get a 50% increase, for all other stats its closer to 30%
Thats only partially correct. The reason its different is because the ability doesnt give a plus 1 to the stat, but rather raises its base stat by 20 in the chosen stat, and since speed calculations are different than damage calculations, the boost to that stat weighs a bit heavier.
@@danielstachowiak568 lol sounds like the OP is all the way correct. I dont see any partiality here. You merely explained *why* they were right Youre just tryna stroke your ego stop that
@Peter Kane No (Brute Bonnet wouldn't get a Speed boost, but I'm using it as an example anyway) If it increases base speed by 20, then Brute Bonnet (31 IV, 252 EV +Nature) with the speed boost is still slower than Dragonite (31 IV, 252 EV +Nature) If it's 50% than Brute Bonnet (31 IV, 252 EV +Nature) with the speed boost, is faster than Garchomp (31 IV, 252 EV +Nature) and Cyclizar (31 IV, 252 EV =Nature) (Cyclizar is faster than Arceus) If it's 20 base speed, then slow things like Brute Bonnet (base 55) would gain 27.4% (31 IV, 0 EV, =Nature) or 19.2% (31 IV, 252 EV +Nature) If it's 20 base speed, then fast things like Iron Valiant (base 116) would gain 14.9% (31 IV, 0 EV, =Nature) or 12.1% (31 IV, 252 EV, +Nature)
@Peter Kane Shuckle is (tied for) the slowest Pokémon Shuckle with +20 Base speed is anywhere from 266.666666% faster than 0IV, 0 EV =Nature (3.666666× as fast) to only 37% faster than 31IV, 252EV +Nature (1.37× as fast) Cloyster with +20 base Speed is anywhere from 88.888888888% faster than 0IV, 0EV =Nature, to only 29% faster than 31IV, 252EV +Nature
Also, about Ability shield, I think this item was made for Tera raids. Preventing something like Bronzong to be hit by earthquake when the boss cancels ability seems pretty nice. (I didn't test this, though. Maybe the boss cancels bypass the item and in this case I have no idea why they made it.)
it works well for raids for Pokémon like Huge Power Azumarill or Baked Body Dachsbun - when the raid Pokémon eliminates all stats on your team, that also gets rid of ability boosts / benefits. Ability Shield prevents the wipe from eliminating your ability benefits. so it works well in raids, for sure.
Well, I have one friend that used Ability shield... because another friend was running a team in their friendly matches that was reliant on Grafaiai doodling anything onto Slaking and he thought it'd be hilarious to use his own, faster Grafaiai to Switcheroo Ability Shield onto Slaking.
Actually, quite recently we found out that Protosynthesis and Quark Drive only boost your Speed by 1.5x, every other stat (Atk, Def, SpA, SpDef) is boosted only by 1.3x.
@@Brelicity I mean, we are expecting EVERY legendary eventually, probably by the ende of next year, like Crown Tundra, since GF has ensured every legendary is catchable in a single gen since gen 6.
I could see skeledirge entering ubers with that. Unaware, plus neutral damage on fairies, and a geomancy boost sounds ridiculous. That is, if it can take a neutral hit from it
You're thinking of when the Tera Raid pokemon nullify your stat changes and ability, and using an ability shield to prevent that. This unfortunately doesn't work.
@@calook1334uh, reading another thread down below, it looks like you’re just flat out wrong? Several dozen people were talking about how it stopped xyz raid boss from nullifying their ability boosts Said they got a pop-up saying the nullification was prevented and all
Clear Amulet has been fun to use in the game. There are some pokemon clearly programmed to first lower stats before attacking. Because of clear amulet they can’t, but the game wasn’t program to understand like that like they do when an ability causes an action to fail, so they will just keep spamming stat lowering moves against your clear amulet mon (for example an umbreon kept using baby doll eyes)
About the covert cloak, I think it would pair well with gholdengo. It's ability means that status moves don't effect it so if you block secondary effects of moves it can't be statused at all barring being given a flame orb or abilities.that activate on contact.
And even then, Gholdengo is a special attacker, so it probably won't be procking Flame Body or similar, meaning you'd have to Trick it one of what I call the Trick items (harmful items whose intended use is to be Tricked, like Flame Orb). Although. Iirc a mold breaker mon like Tinka can still use status moves on a Gholdengo. But like Tricking an item, that's not a strategy you're guaranteedto be running at all, let alone have available to deal with it.
@Astralnekomimi In fact you can't trick Gholdengo. Its immune to the status move category, including trick, pain split, encore... all that stuff. So yeah! The cloak has been great on gold boy!
@@TheOriginalKZero Daaamn. I dunno why I thought you could trick it lol. Maybe I just thought "well, trick also affects the user so maybe it'll be fine" lol
The Protective Pads were introduced in Sun and Moon, not Sword and Shield. They were used quite a lot in singles to avoid Static, Flame Body, Iron Barbs, Rough Skin and most importantly Rocky Helmet, especially on mons like Urshifu and Melmetal who rely on multi-hit moves.
I've been trying Punching Glove on Annihilape and it suits it perfectly. Being able to power up vanilla Rage Fist a bit more while also avoiding getting punished by Rough Skin/Flame Body is very valuable, although it may be better items to run. I believe it's an underrated item.
So I have a set I wanted to use, you seem educated in conpetitive battling. Would this be viable? Annihilape @Punching Glove, Defiant Jolly (Would Adamant be better?) 252 Atk and Spe, 4 SpD Bulk Up, Rage Fist, Drain Punch, fourth move (Any suggestions? Metronome sounds fun)
I've found that for running through the base game it's the best thing you can give to annihilape, since it boosts rage fist and drain punch by the same amount choice band would, and those are the two main moves you'll be using.
For the Mirror Herb, have a Meowscarada hold it and use Flower Trick on a Pokemon with Anger Point (works best with Paldean Tauros; Blaze Breed) and the crit activates Anger Point, maxing out its attack and then Meowscarada will have its attack maxed thanks to the Mirror Herb.
@@heyheyhey0220 I don't think so. Dondozo's Unaware means all those boosts Espathra has won't help her crack through him. 252 SpA/252 Spe Timid Espathra will do about 20% to 0 HP/0 SpD Jolly Dondozo, who with 252 Atk EVs will OHKO with Waterfall. Espathra has to deal with Dondozo's boosts, but he ignores hers. You can invest defensively in Espathra but you will need your partner Pokemon to be the one who actually counters Dondozo so you can revenge-sweep with Espathra. Personally I have preferred using Haze Murkrow and status to beat Dondozo.
@@nsiderultimaseth +4 omniboost stored power is a guaranteed ohko after stealth rocks on the dondozo that you specified. It's guaranteed ohko without stealth rocks if you are running modest on espathra instead of timid.
I remember seeing a tactic using flamigo costar to copy a dondozo’s stat boosts by killing the tatsugiri in its mouth with an endure toxic orb explosion
Something not mentioned for the Ability Shield. Grafaiai has access to Doodle which replaces the Ability of itself and it's Partner with an opponents ability. Might be some setup where you want to Doodle the ability onto the Ally but not lose Grafaiai's Prankster, or some other wierd combination.
I love my loaded dice, I think it’s great and gets me an actual good usable move from the multi hit moves (I use it for bullet seed and now it’s a sweeper move)
@@giargue > Barges into comments > Sees user pointing out a relatively minor mistake in the video > "No you're wrong" > Refuses to elaborate further or give any argument > Leaves
Side note: protective pads were used actually in singles on urshifu rapid strike on bulk up sets as a way to deal with toxapex which would usually cripple the choice band set with rocky helmet and just regenerate the damage off
Loaded dice is definitely viable on some Pokémon, like physically offensive grass types that doesn’t get great physical moves but learns bullet seed - now that’s a 100-125 base power move!
A very specific use for the ability shield : a duo that has been used a lot lately is slaking + grafaiai. You can use trick on the slaking with the ability shield to block it on truant. It's not very viable, but it could have a niche depending on the meta
I think the biggest problem is that Slaking + Grafaiai is fun but it’s a gimmick so it’s not likely to be common enough to be worth holding onto a counter.
@@JacksonBockus Absolutely. So far the only use I found for the Ability Shield is to prevent losing your ability in raid battles when you really need it
I think the mirror herb has a lot more potential than you think Wolfey, Dondozo will be pretty common i feel, so you can have a back up with mirror herb in your team to get an omniboost, maybe even flamigo to get 2 pokemon with omniboost even
The issue with that is Dondozo has unaware as an ability, and because tatsugiri is in it's mouth theres no ally pokemon to hit with your boosts either.
On booster energy it stacks with the effect from harsh sunlight atleast from what ive seen Also covert cloak blocking snarl makes it nice on special attackers And clear amulet counters parting shot preventing the switch which is important due to the grimmsnarl buff
When Wolfey said "except for a very specific use case" for ability shield, I couldn't help but recall his 'the most evil way to win a pokemon game' video. That seemed like an appropriately specific usecase
As a singles and mainly draft player, the protective pads were actually used quiet a bit because we have stuff like ferrothorn, garchomp, static zapdos, flame body volcarona and of course rocky helmet, all of which you run into a lot, and you would see it especially mons with multi hit contact moves like melmetal and urshifu rapid, or in draft in rough ski/iron barbs/static/flame body matchups specifically. The punching glove CAN be better if you are mainly clicking punching moves anyway, but it only boosts and protects punching moves, other moves are neither boosted nore protected from contact effects
@@kyrntheharpooner4150 I had hopes of more than that, since its an ability. Maybe I've been out of the loop for too long but I don't remember an ability like Glimmora's.
If the ability shield prevented your own ability From activating I think it would be very interesting. You could get something like a Regigigas slacking, arceops without the downside of their abilities but they would have to sacrifice an item slot to do so, and
The mirror herb can be used to great success in double battles because Tatsugiri and Dondozo, when on the field together, give Dondozo x2 to all its stats. So, you can essentially get a free swords dance, nasty plot, iron defence, amnesia AND agility. Edit: I was drunk when I wrote this lmao
Can’t wait for more of these rankings. You’ll be at 1 mill before the end of winter no doubt. Cloak on your trick room setter might be decent to prevent flinches.
Can see clear amulet being everywhere this gen, this gen seems to have such an emphasis on physical attackers over special attackers that intimidate seems to have got even better than it already was, clear amulet seems like a pretty necessary check to me.
It's so easy to focus on Intimidate, but the Clear Amulet also protects against Electroweb's and Icy Wind's speed drops. Also, the Ability Shield can be very useful for Tera Raids because it stops the Tera Pokemon from nullifying your Ability. I'd say alone makes it a good item, but it definitely deserves the bottom spot on any list that doesn't care about anything other than PvP, like this one. The best use I could think of for PvP is Tricking it onto Slaking if you have a friend that thinks they're clever with a strategy to replace its Ability.
Fun fact: You can make pokemon learn egg moves with the Mirror Herb, here's how Step 1: Have 2 pokemon on your party: One that you want to learn the egg move, and one that has the egg move that the other pokemon can learn Step 2: Give the mirror herb to the pokemon you want to learn the egg move Step 3: Make sure the pokemon you want to have the egg move on has 3 moves, you can make it forget in the summary menu, and make sure the pokemon that has the egg move has it in it's active moves, you can also make it remember in the summary menu Step 4: Go picnic, wait for a while and end picnic Step 5: Profit.
I personally love the mirror herb because I needed to get 3 egg moves onto a wild shiny I caught & all I had to do was delete 3 moves, give it the mirror herb, & set up a picnic with Pokemon that knows the three moves I needed & it learned those moves. I though SwSh made it easy to get egg moves onto Pokemon, well, SV made it ten times easier!
Imagine if ability shielded stopped yours abilities from activating that would actually give Pokémon with bad abilities like Slaking a use plus with Switharoo it could be interesting
You should check out cybertron’s recent video. He just showcased a strat to get rid of slaking’s truant. Not quite what you were saying, but tangentially related.
@@frankweeks5759 That's not really special though. Slaking has always had strats to remove it's ability in doubles, but if ability shield disabled your ability it not only wouldn't require the help of an ally but it would also enable slaking to disable it's ability in singles.
it would also be absolutely broken as hell please do not let slaking run rampant without that ability it has better bulk than groudon, recovery, bulk up, and a huge physical movepool it would be an absolute menace it would be really scary. like just imagine palafin but with 50% more bulk and reliable recovery
Another huge thing about clear amulet is that (at least in current showdown) if someone parting shots the clear amulet holder, the parting shot user will not switch out
Imo, the mirror herb is seriously underrated. It has so much potential and you basically have control over what you swagger and get a massive boost and force them to switch out their special attackers. Or maybe Wolfey is undermining it so others will be less tempted to use it on him. 😂 Can I ask a serious question? Does your opinion have an effect on the meta game? I'm serious, since you are the best battler in the world I'd imagine your words carry some weight.
I used loaded dice on my icicle spear arctibax for my whole playthrough once I caught him. Never hit less than 4 times, but definitely hits 4 more often than 5. Gave him a 100-125 BP 100% accurate STAB ice move that breaks sturdy/mimikyu/sub. Super good for a playthrough, not sure how great it would be for competitive
I found the clear amulet in my first play-through of violet and couldn’t believe that it was real. It’s amazing beefing up with swords dance ceruledge and forcing teams to take you out before you start sweeping. Definitely some huge potential that I’m excited to see play out in VGC with more competitive minded teams and strats
I think that wolfey didn’t understand the loaded dice. The loaded doesn’t mark it more LIKELY to hit a higher number of times it’s guaranteed to to hit 4 or 5 times so icicle spear and bullet seed always do at least 100 damage. I always run loaded dice on baxcalibur because of this.
I can see Punching Glove working really well with Machamp due tp high Attack or qny Iron Fist pokemon if it gets the elemental punches, as the item grants a choice band boost to them.
There was a brief moment during the new buffed Protective Pads item where I was like "how is he not raving about how good this is gonna be?" then I remembered "oh yeah, I play singles" I often forget Wolfe is coming at these rankings with a totally different perspective from me, I remember tearing shit up in OU with Protective Pads Melmetal, imagine how busted that shit would be with Iron Fist, DIB, AND an item that boosts DIB and protects it from Rocky Helmet/Rough Skin chip... I kinda hope they don't release Melmetal this gen, uh oh
From the look of it I'm pretty sure Loaded Dice guarantees the move hits at least 4 times so Bullet Seed would always be a guaranteed 100-125 power grass move. Not saying thay necessarily makes it good tho lol
I have been using a tactician Breloom with it holding the loaded dice and it's been pretty great. Focus Sash guarantees spore coming out but the loaded dice has been really good for breaking walls for me. Also most people expect spore so they switch almost instantly too.
@@TheMr.Logan9 I've been using it on Brambleghast cause Seed Bomb doesn't seem impactful enough and I don't want to use Power Whip lol but I'm just having fun with it
Clear Amulet is imo extremely healthy for the competitive meta. If it sees a lot of play it discourages the use of "debuffers", which in turn lowers the value of bringing the item in the first place. It opens up a really nice back and forth between hyper offense that can not allow to have its stats lowered under any circumstance and has to commit to the item no matter what, and more balanced teams that can take advantage of the lower density of "debuffers" in the meta.
I was wondering if ability shield has a use in non-competitive tera raids when the Pokémon nullifies abilities. Also it could be used with trick to shut down any grafaiai strats that pop up (using fake out on the grafaiai slot). Though probably too niche to dedicate an entire pokemon to do. Just roaring is probably better.
For what it's worth, the Ability Shield allows you to keep your ability when Neutralizing Gas is present and when attacking Pokémon with Mummy / Wandering Spirit / Lingering Aroma.
I think Loaded Dice on Moxie Heracross can be funny and try to make pseudo mega heracross, plus Tera type Rock the heracross to bait flying types then hit them with 200-250 power rock blast
Clear Amulet helps out more than just a protection against intimidate, being immune to speed control like icy wind or electroweb, blocking parting shot from even being used, and random stat drops from moves like play rough or shadow ball I'd argue are just as important if not more than blocking intimidate.
The ability shield was designed for Tera raid battles, as when the tera raid boss gets angry and nulifies your side of the field, it also nulifies your pokemons ability, this item is gross on pokemon with levitate, well-baked body, etc
The punching glove is a 1.5x boost so if your attacking moves are already punching moves (like an iron fist mon or a breloom running Drain punch and Mach punch) it would basically be a Choice band without being locked into a move while also preventing negative contact effects. So, I think it should be a little higher.
It doesn’t stack with Iron Fist, which is honestly dumb since the Muscle Band exists, which also boosts all physical attacks (which all punching moves are) by 10% and does stack with Iron Fist. Is not making contact really that valuable that they had to make it not stack with iron fist?
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Ability shield is 100% made with the tera raids in mind. Normally for 5* and above, when you get to the tera shield part the raid mon will nullify your ability, but with ability shield you prevent that. Super useful for higher difficulty raids you can't one shot
I will say, someone might have an Ability Shield on a Switcheroo user. It being a bad item in general is fine for that, but being able to counter ability-swapping shenanigans when they come up is icing on the cake.
During playthrough, I used Punching Glove on Annihilape since all its moves are punch moves anyway. I don't think it's as big of a boost as Iron Fist, but it might be worth using on something that's only using punch moves anyway. I also liked finding out that Booster Energy, while it can only activate once per combat, isn't actually used up. In normal playthrough, it's still there being held. It makes me curious how it would interact with Knock Off, though. Will a used-up Booster Energy count as an item being held for Knock Off damage?
I feel like the mirror herb would be really good in singles, put it on a mixed attacker with some speed and you can prevent otherwise game ending sweep setups. Probably would be better off building a team to prevent sweeps in the first place but idk, its an interesting alt route that would allow you to maybe invest more heavily into offense
A follow up video on this would be really cool, with commentary on how these items are currently being used competitively and how that's different to your early thoughts and predictions in this video.
Just using a Clear Amulet on my Pawmot in my main quest playthrough, I could tell it was really strong. Also, while Loaded Dice isn't fantastic, it probably has some of my favorite flavor of just about any held item
I think the biggest problem with punching gloves is that you would want to use it on a iron fist mon and most iron fist mon's got cut there are only two lines in the game that get it.
I think something could be done with a fast physical sweeper with a mirror herb and a grimmsnarl with swagger. Prankster swagger gives opposing mon a +2 which you then mirror herb and sweep? Possibly allows you to run more coverage since your item is your set up move?
I wonder if one of the uses for the ability shield that people aren't thinking about is stuff where you can prevent your ally from having their abilities swapped but you can still do it to yourself or vice versa. Like that new move doodle, which is basically roleplay for you and an ally. You could basically give your ally the opponent's ability but keep your own. That might actually be helpful on Grafaiai since it has prankster, and you could do some weird shenanigans like giving intimidate to your ally when you're up against an intimidate mon. Super gimmicky and situational, but it's a thought
The mirror Herb also has a bonus use outside of battle... in S/V, if you have a Pokémon with an open move slot, and another Pokémon that has a move that can be learned by TM, doing a picnic with those Pokémon can learn a move without using a TM, if the one you want the move on is holding the herb... for example, I had an Azumarill with an open slot, and a Hariyama with Belly Drum, gave the mirror Herb to my Azumarill, set up a picnic and immediately packed up, and my Azumarill learned Belly Drum without having to use a TM!
I think an interesting use case for the ability shield is if it can stop doodle from changing your ability or if you could stop the doodle slaking from happening with trick
@@xthulu5917 Slaking is a very real and powerhouse option in double battle formats because of ability swaps. A retaliate slaking is potentially lethal. And with an ability swap. This mon with a base stat only beaten by a very select few pokemon will be able to act every single turn. All while using the second mon for support to power up and keep slaking easily alive. Retaliate is also a normal type move. So giving it a silk scarf and terra normal would just mean retaliate slaking is instant death. And what ever other normal move potentially 0kos. Its THAT powerful. Yes there will be faster setups. But clever players can break anything so I can agree with you on technicality. And that's the best kind of correct right?
The punching glove probably works best on an Iron Fist ability user or a fighting type that gets all the elemental punches. One I think would be good is Annihilape. Or at least that's how I used mine. Drain Punch, Rage Fist, Ice Punch, and possibly another elemental punch or just Shadow Punch.
Loaded dice turns 2-5 hit moves into 4-5 hit moves. Either excellent no drawback stab, or excellent no drawback coverage. Ultimately, it’s up to how much you value quality moves and your item slot.
Thanks for the fun and entertaining videos on competitive Pokemon! It's helped me understand how competitive teams operate and how competitors decide team building, which was otherwise foreign to me. I won't play on Smogon or anything crazy, but it's just fun to learn more about how I can optimize my casual teams!
The really cool thing with the mirror herb is its out of battle effects. It can be used to give an egg move without having to breed for it regardless of egg group
btw, the Mirror Herb is more useful for it's secondary use outside of battle, to cut down on breeding time of passing down a specific Egg Move. Let me explain, you can use the Mirror Herb as a held item to teach an Egg Move it knows, to another Pokemon in your Party, eliminating the need of breeding to grant a specific Pokemon Species' Egg Move to the desired Pokemon. It does require that they share an Egg Group with the one they are trying to teach the Egg Move to, and it requires an open Move slot on the Pokemon learning the Move. You need to set up a picnic to get that teaching of Egg Moves to work though. I'm sure you're not at all unfamiliar with breeding though, as for a long time, breeding was more or less necessary to get competitive viable Pokemon till a certain Gen
I think loaded dice specifically on Technician Breloom is a massive buff. Multi-hitting a garenteed 4 and sometimes a lucky 5 is cracked even for nautral matchups. I've best exploited this on teams that are slow.
I’ve been having a lot of fun with loaded dice on my bramblegast since having stab bullet seed that always hit 4-5 times makes it very good in the early game.
I'm so excited for competitive gen 9! Really hope you stream ranked when season 1 drops later! I always love sitting down and watching or just even listening. No matter what though it helps me learn more about competitive always. Thank you for all the great content.
On the loaded dice, the effect is guaranteed. It changes any 2-3 hit rolls into 4-5 hit rolls, so you're always hitting a minimum of 4 times.
Does it work with Population bomb? 😈
@@oleq4200 it always hit 10 times,but every hit can miss so it won't change anything
@@oleq4200 Population Bomb isnt the right kind of Multihit move, each hit has 90% accuracy and it keeps going until it misses with a cap of 10. Putting a Wide Lens on is best play for it since it turns each hits 90% into 99%
@@oleq4200 wide lens is a better option for P-Bomb
It’s basically a lite skill link. I like it lol.
Fun fact about the mirror herb: you can give it to a Pokémon during picnics and it will copy egg moves that it can learn. It doesn’t consume the herb either.
and ignores egg group limitations,
Yup! Belly Drum Azumarill!
Finally my Corvinight that I hunted on route 1 (in SW) will be able to learn roost!
Wait WHAT
So you’re telling me I didn’t need to breed new Pokémon and could of carried on using the same team I used to my playthrough??
@@ThatHollowGuy yes. You have to forget a move and put the herb on the pokemon before setting up the picnic. Another pokemon in the party must know the move you are trying to learn.
Mirror Herb may not be crazy in battle, but its hidden out of battle effect is crazy good.
If you give it to a pokemon with an open move slot and do a picnic it can learn any compatible egg move from another pokemon in your party that would normally require breeding to learn. Also it ignores egg groups.
For instance: Iron Hands' Belly Drum copied over to an Azumarill. Really useful for a certain 7* raid.
Mirror Herb is actually the only way to teach Parting Shot to the Varoom line, since it's the only Pokemon in the Mineral egg group to learn it! Quite a handy little item.
Your comment is so useful, ty!
That's actually insane and more busted. Game Freak said "Let's skip breeding all together now!" Just bottle cap, and mirror herb.
@@NCemloen but you can't set ivs to 0 for pokemon that don't need those ivs
@@NCemloen jeez man take a second to think about what they're saying in context to your comment, chill out. "Game Freak said "Let's skip breeding all together now!" *Just* bottle cap, and mirror herb." and they said "*but* you can't set ivs to 0 for pokemon that don't need those ivs"
You have to breed to get low IV pokemon, a point brought up against you saying "Just bottle cap, and mirror herb" You cannot lower a pokemons iv with an item, and it requires solely breeding to get it.
Fun fact: Protective pads were actually introduced in Gen 7. I'm not gonna fault anyone for thinking they were new in Gen 8 because they weren't really used very much until SwSh. Still really interested to see where the new items fit in. I've seen mirror herb + Spicy Extract running around so maybe some of these items end up being really good.
Not even until swsh, its really until isle of armor when urshifu water and triple axel were introduced (and melm got unbanned on smogon)
i might be wrong but i remember it was ban on smogon
@@bLu_3 no it wasn't? Are you thinking of urshifu-s?
I definitely remember it as a Gen 7 BH player with the Protective Pads Shedinjas running around to avoid Spiky Shield damage.
Protective pads was gen 6 I think
Protective pads was used in singles on Urshifu rapid strike so that it didn't get wrecked by rocky helmet/rough skin or paralyzed with static. Punching gloves boosts surging strikes so it's literally just an upgrade to protective pads for Urshifu in singles at least
Think punching gloves also would be a good stack on mons with iron fist
Punching gloves would be utterly busted on melmetal
@@MisterVicky9 Gloves and Iron Fist do not stack
Melmetal also used it at the end of the meta to wreck the shit out of bulky garchomp
@@StarfieldDisarray are you sure they don’t stack
loaded dice on a technician breloom using bullet seed actually adds up to quite a bit. Adding around 100 damage to the move in total.
Tera-Water Water Shuriken on Protean Greninja with Dice might also be meaty. (Man, I hope the Isle of Armor tutors come back cuz Flip Turn on him might be great too.)
@@aghadlarhen9397 -You'd probably be better off terastralizing Ash-Gren and tossing out the dice to be completely honest - Ash-Gren Shuriken equals a four-strike regular Shuriken, on top of the better stats of Ash-Gren & the open item slot. Protean also doesn't really mesh well with Terastralization, so if your goal is a pure Water Greninja, just terastralize the Ash-Greninja.- I missed the Battle Bond rework so this is mostly irrelevant, whoops.
Now, you wanna talk about abusing Dice, I think Heracross actually has a lot of potential. If you get Moxie boosts your Dice-powered Pin Missiles and Rock Blasts essentially let you become a budget Mega Hera.
@@Gardivanyth Ash greninja isn't in the game. Battle bond was changed to not have a transformation. I think it's just a minor stat boost or something now.
@@Gardivanyth Ash Gren doesn't exist anymore. Battle bond was changed to give +speed attack sp attack after a KO instead of changing forms.
@@ngmonster1017 Yeaaah I just learned this. So there's actually a use case for Loaded Dice Ash-Greninja after all! Go figure.
I really like the items in this game, they're unique and you can get competitive items so early it's insane
I agree
finally i can buy a flame orb for money and not BP or some BS
They're gonna just absolutely turn competitive on its head. I've never been more excited to try it. I never have before. I hope Skeledirge is viable. He's pretty slow.
@@thewatcher6969 if you've never played I rec watching online battles to get a feel. Skeledirge could do very well in trick room teams. That's where slow Pokémon go first. Setup will o wisp then torch song hex or slack off he'd be great
Kaizo SV would be cool because of how early you can get a good comp team with items and all
One thing to note about the abilities of the Paradox Pokémon is that their boosts aren't all the same. For Speed you get a 50% increase, for all other stats its closer to 30%
Thats only partially correct. The reason its different is because the ability doesnt give a plus 1 to the stat, but rather raises its base stat by 20 in the chosen stat, and since speed calculations are different than damage calculations, the boost to that stat weighs a bit heavier.
@@danielstachowiak568 but the percentages are accurate, no?
@@danielstachowiak568 lol sounds like the OP is all the way correct. I dont see any partiality here. You merely explained *why* they were right
Youre just tryna stroke your ego stop that
@Peter Kane
No
(Brute Bonnet wouldn't get a Speed boost, but I'm using it as an example anyway)
If it increases base speed by 20, then Brute Bonnet (31 IV, 252 EV +Nature) with the speed boost is still slower than Dragonite (31 IV, 252 EV +Nature)
If it's 50% than Brute Bonnet (31 IV, 252 EV +Nature) with the speed boost, is faster than Garchomp (31 IV, 252 EV +Nature) and Cyclizar (31 IV, 252 EV =Nature) (Cyclizar is faster than Arceus)
If it's 20 base speed, then slow things like Brute Bonnet (base 55) would gain 27.4% (31 IV, 0 EV, =Nature) or 19.2% (31 IV, 252 EV +Nature)
If it's 20 base speed, then fast things like Iron Valiant (base 116) would gain 14.9% (31 IV, 0 EV, =Nature) or 12.1% (31 IV, 252 EV, +Nature)
@Peter Kane
Shuckle is (tied for) the slowest Pokémon
Shuckle with +20 Base speed is anywhere from 266.666666% faster than 0IV, 0 EV =Nature (3.666666× as fast) to only 37% faster than 31IV, 252EV +Nature (1.37× as fast)
Cloyster with +20 base Speed is anywhere from 88.888888888% faster than 0IV, 0EV =Nature, to only 29% faster than 31IV, 252EV +Nature
Also, about Ability shield, I think this item was made for Tera raids. Preventing something like Bronzong to be hit by earthquake when the boss cancels ability seems pretty nice.
(I didn't test this, though. Maybe the boss cancels bypass the item and in this case I have no idea why they made it.)
Nah, when the tera boss suppresses abilities, you get a popup that says that the shield resisted it so you keep your ability.
@@platoiii5052 So useful on pokemon who can make use of their ability and has a strong way to heal
it works well for raids for Pokémon like Huge Power Azumarill or Baked Body Dachsbun - when the raid Pokémon eliminates all stats on your team, that also gets rid of ability boosts / benefits. Ability Shield prevents the wipe from eliminating your ability benefits. so it works well in raids, for sure.
Well, I have one friend that used Ability shield... because another friend was running a team in their friendly matches that was reliant on Grafaiai doodling anything onto Slaking and he thought it'd be hilarious to use his own, faster Grafaiai to Switcheroo Ability Shield onto Slaking.
I can agree with this as I used it on my Dachsbun to keep it's Well-Baked Body against Charizard during it's Raid Weekend
Actually, quite recently we found out that Protosynthesis and Quark Drive only boost your Speed by 1.5x, every other stat (Atk, Def, SpA, SpDef) is boosted only by 1.3x.
Is it not the opposite?
@@geniusoldcow6818 no, it's like Emil described. that's why choice band/belt is being used more than before
Yes this is the he comment I was looking for
I’d love to see mirror herb in a Xerneas meta. It might be a counter against the Geomancy win button
Xerneas meta? Are we expecting xerneas again in scarlet and violet? Or are you specifically talking about showdown?
@@Brelicity I mean, we are expecting EVERY legendary eventually, probably by the ende of next year, like Crown Tundra, since GF has ensured every legendary is catchable in a single gen since gen 6.
Just imagin the ostrich pokemon switch in on your xerneas with a mirror herb on
I could see skeledirge entering ubers with that. Unaware, plus neutral damage on fairies, and a geomancy boost sounds ridiculous. That is, if it can take a neutral hit from it
mirror herb Meowscarada is a hard counter to Dondozo
The mirror herb also lets the parents in breeding to get the egg move and I’m surprised that it wasn’t mentioned.
so useful. grinded out a perfect azumarill and panicked when i found out belly drum was egg move. mirror herb solution
Because these videos are more so for battling.
Probably 'cause this was only recently discovered. I only found this out this morning.
Its better than that. Crabomnible can teach Ice Hammer to Tinkaton. These pokemon do not share an egg group. (Water 3 vs Fairy)
Seriously?? Thanks for the info
The ability shield is mainly going to be used for raids, because raid pokemon change your ability a lot
Doesn't work
You're thinking of when the Tera Raid pokemon nullify your stat changes and ability, and using an ability shield to prevent that.
This unfortunately doesn't work.
@@calook1334uh, reading another thread down below, it looks like you’re just flat out wrong? Several dozen people were talking about how it stopped xyz raid boss from nullifying their ability boosts
Said they got a pop-up saying the nullification was prevented and all
Clear Amulet has been fun to use in the game. There are some pokemon clearly programmed to first lower stats before attacking. Because of clear amulet they can’t, but the game wasn’t program to understand like that like they do when an ability causes an action to fail, so they will just keep spamming stat lowering moves against your clear amulet mon (for example an umbreon kept using baby doll eyes)
I have a corvinight with its hidden mirror armor that does the same thing. It’s quite amusing
About the covert cloak, I think it would pair well with gholdengo. It's ability means that status moves don't effect it so if you block secondary effects of moves it can't be statused at all barring being given a flame orb or abilities.that activate on contact.
Yeah, it's great for wall pokemon, especially Garganacl with Purifying Salt.
And even then, Gholdengo is a special attacker, so it probably won't be procking Flame Body or similar, meaning you'd have to Trick it one of what I call the Trick items (harmful items whose intended use is to be Tricked, like Flame Orb). Although. Iirc a mold breaker mon like Tinka can still use status moves on a Gholdengo. But like Tricking an item, that's not a strategy you're guaranteedto be running at all, let alone have available to deal with it.
@Astralnekomimi In fact you can't trick Gholdengo. Its immune to the status move category, including trick, pain split, encore... all that stuff.
So yeah! The cloak has been great on gold boy!
@@TheOriginalKZero Daaamn. I dunno why I thought you could trick it lol. Maybe I just thought "well, trick also affects the user so maybe it'll be fine" lol
The Protective Pads were introduced in Sun and Moon, not Sword and Shield. They were used quite a lot in singles to avoid Static, Flame Body, Iron Barbs, Rough Skin and most importantly Rocky Helmet, especially on mons like Urshifu and Melmetal who rely on multi-hit moves.
I've been trying Punching Glove on Annihilape and it suits it perfectly. Being able to power up vanilla Rage Fist a bit more while also avoiding getting punished by Rough Skin/Flame Body is very valuable, although it may be better items to run.
I believe it's an underrated item.
I've been using metronome with annihilape
Metronome Annihilape, how's it working out?
@@watermelonspice5541 well if you're only using rage fist it helps get high amounts of damage faster
So I have a set I wanted to use, you seem educated in conpetitive battling. Would this be viable?
Annihilape @Punching Glove, Defiant
Jolly (Would Adamant be better?)
252 Atk and Spe, 4 SpD
Bulk Up, Rage Fist, Drain Punch, fourth move (Any suggestions? Metronome sounds fun)
I've found that for running through the base game it's the best thing you can give to annihilape, since it boosts rage fist and drain punch by the same amount choice band would, and those are the two main moves you'll be using.
For the Mirror Herb, have a Meowscarada hold it and use Flower Trick on a Pokemon with Anger Point (works best with Paldean Tauros; Blaze Breed) and the crit activates Anger Point, maxing out its attack and then Meowscarada will have its attack maxed thanks to the Mirror Herb.
Does this work even with allies ?
@@abed8504 It should, if not then I don't know
Tested it did not work😢
If you switch in Flamango costar is really good.👍
The punching glove on an iron first Pokémon like crabominable could be pretty incredible, that protect against flame body is definitely a bonus too
Punching Glove doesn't stack with Iron Fist. If you wanna protect from things like Flame Body, better make do with Gen 7's Protective Pads.
As soon as I saw clear amulet, I was shocked. Being immune to intimidate is insane.
If dondozo and tatsugiri have a lot of use i would imagine mirror herb would become popular as well
Mirror herb on Espathra with Opportunist vs dondozo+tatsugiri gives her a +4 omniboost. Combined with her -2 to spd attack, she's a great counter.
@@heyheyhey0220 I don't think so. Dondozo's Unaware means all those boosts Espathra has won't help her crack through him. 252 SpA/252 Spe Timid Espathra will do about 20% to 0 HP/0 SpD Jolly Dondozo, who with 252 Atk EVs will OHKO with Waterfall. Espathra has to deal with Dondozo's boosts, but he ignores hers. You can invest defensively in Espathra but you will need your partner Pokemon to be the one who actually counters Dondozo so you can revenge-sweep with Espathra.
Personally I have preferred using Haze Murkrow and status to beat Dondozo.
@@nsiderultimaseth The entire point of omniboosting Espathra is to use stored power, which the boosts still apply to.
@@nsiderultimaseth +4 omniboost stored power is a guaranteed ohko after stealth rocks on the dondozo that you specified. It's guaranteed ohko without stealth rocks if you are running modest on espathra instead of timid.
I remember seeing a tactic using flamigo costar to copy a dondozo’s stat boosts by killing the tatsugiri in its mouth with an endure toxic orb explosion
Something not mentioned for the Ability Shield. Grafaiai has access to Doodle which replaces the Ability of itself and it's Partner with an opponents ability. Might be some setup where you want to Doodle the ability onto the Ally but not lose Grafaiai's Prankster, or some other wierd combination.
I'll never miss a chance to double intimidate the enemy lol
grafaiai is so much fun
Grafaiai is already being paired with Slacking to unleashed its ture potential.
I love my loaded dice, I think it’s great and gets me an actual good usable move from the multi hit moves (I use it for bullet seed and now it’s a sweeper move)
The booster energy is only a +1 to speed. It’s a life orb boost for every other stat
No you’re wrong
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@@giargue Nah @kideuler1758 is correct. Booster energy raises a stat by 1.33x with the exception of speed which is raised 1.5x
Life orb is 1,2x
Booster energy is 1,3x
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@@Candyy248 Life orb is 1.3x. Type-specific boosting items like plates are 1.2x.
Side note: protective pads were used actually in singles on urshifu rapid strike on bulk up sets as a way to deal with toxapex which would usually cripple the choice band set with rocky helmet and just regenerate the damage off
Loaded dice is definitely viable on some Pokémon, like physically offensive grass types that doesn’t get great physical moves but learns bullet seed - now that’s a 100-125 base power move!
Mostly Breloom with Technician.
I use mine on Greninja so that it's signature move is much more useful
A very specific use for the ability shield : a duo that has been used a lot lately is slaking + grafaiai. You can use trick on the slaking with the ability shield to block it on truant. It's not very viable, but it could have a niche depending on the meta
I think the biggest problem is that Slaking + Grafaiai is fun but it’s a gimmick so it’s not likely to be common enough to be worth holding onto a counter.
@@JacksonBockus Absolutely. So far the only use I found for the Ability Shield is to prevent losing your ability in raid battles when you really need it
Can the Grafaiai hold the ability shield to keep its prankster while still changing the Slaking's ability?
I think the mirror herb has a lot more potential than you think Wolfey, Dondozo will be pretty common i feel, so you can have a back up with mirror herb in your team to get an omniboost, maybe even flamigo to get 2 pokemon with omniboost even
The issue with that is Dondozo has unaware as an ability, and because tatsugiri is in it's mouth theres no ally pokemon to hit with your boosts either.
@@yumeir8148 hmm you are right, but running unaware means you can burn it so theres that at least, man dondozo is gonna be a pain to deal with haha
Shhhh! No one is supposed to know that
@@yumeir8148 clear smog is so vital to beat dondozo
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Just call it SV like we have always done with Pokémon games (swsh, oras, usum, bw)
@@noahhkun5097who made you the abbreviating pokemon games police
@@nickcalderaro9166 who made you the Questioning of abbreviating Pokémon games police
@@noahhkun5097 no
@@noahhkun5097 so true
On booster energy it stacks with the effect from harsh sunlight atleast from what ive seen
Also covert cloak blocking snarl makes it nice on special attackers
And clear amulet counters parting shot preventing the switch which is important due to the grimmsnarl buff
When Wolfey said "except for a very specific use case" for ability shield, I couldn't help but recall his 'the most evil way to win a pokemon game' video. That seemed like an appropriately specific usecase
As a singles and mainly draft player, the protective pads were actually used quiet a bit because we have stuff like ferrothorn, garchomp, static zapdos, flame body volcarona and of course rocky helmet, all of which you run into a lot, and you would see it especially mons with multi hit contact moves like melmetal and urshifu rapid, or in draft in rough ski/iron barbs/static/flame body matchups specifically. The punching glove CAN be better if you are mainly clicking punching moves anyway, but it only boosts and protects punching moves, other moves are neither boosted nore protected from contact effects
I wonder if Espeon with magic bounce can bounce Glimmora's toxic debris back and then you slap that thing in doubles 10 time with population bomb.
Nope, it only block moves, not ability, plus hitting it 10 times is useless cuz toxic spikes only stacks 2 times
People started running rock helmet to counter the kouse
Damn, I want that mouse to be a nightmare as much as possible :D
@@kyrntheharpooner4150 I had hopes of more than that, since its an ability.
Maybe I've been out of the loop for too long but I don't remember an ability like Glimmora's.
@@2Syndras1Cup Glimmora's ability was introduced in this gen so ofc u don't remember it
If the ability shield prevented your own ability From activating I think it would be very interesting. You could get something like a Regigigas slacking, arceops without the downside of their abilities but they would have to sacrifice an item slot to do so, and
The mirror herb can be used to great success in double battles because Tatsugiri and Dondozo, when on the field together, give Dondozo x2 to all its stats. So, you can essentially get a free swords dance, nasty plot, iron defence, amnesia AND agility.
Edit: I was drunk when I wrote this lmao
0:53 The "really specific case": You can trick that item onto your opponen's slaking, so grafaiai cannot change it's ability.
Can’t wait for more of these rankings. You’ll be at 1 mill before the end of winter no doubt. Cloak on your trick room setter might be decent to prevent flinches.
In solo 6v6 OU the protective pad was played a lot last gen due to the rocky helmet being everywhere
Can see clear amulet being everywhere this gen, this gen seems to have such an emphasis on physical attackers over special attackers that intimidate seems to have got even better than it already was, clear amulet seems like a pretty necessary check to me.
It's so easy to focus on Intimidate, but the Clear Amulet also protects against Electroweb's and Icy Wind's speed drops.
Also, the Ability Shield can be very useful for Tera Raids because it stops the Tera Pokemon from nullifying your Ability. I'd say alone makes it a good item, but it definitely deserves the bottom spot on any list that doesn't care about anything other than PvP, like this one. The best use I could think of for PvP is Tricking it onto Slaking if you have a friend that thinks they're clever with a strategy to replace its Ability.
Scarlet and violet definitely have great potential for competitive tournaments cant wait to experience it!
Fun fact: You can make pokemon learn egg moves with the Mirror Herb, here's how
Step 1: Have 2 pokemon on your party: One that you want to learn the egg move, and one that has the egg move that the other pokemon can learn
Step 2: Give the mirror herb to the pokemon you want to learn the egg move
Step 3: Make sure the pokemon you want to have the egg move on has 3 moves, you can make it forget in the summary menu, and make sure the pokemon that has the egg move has it in it's active moves, you can also make it remember in the summary menu
Step 4: Go picnic, wait for a while and end picnic
Step 5: Profit.
I personally love the mirror herb because I needed to get 3 egg moves onto a wild shiny I caught & all I had to do was delete 3 moves, give it the mirror herb, & set up a picnic with Pokemon that knows the three moves I needed & it learned those moves. I though SwSh made it easy to get egg moves onto Pokemon, well, SV made it ten times easier!
A Bullet Seed Meowscarada loaded dice did fairly good to me. Really strong at the mid tiers in showdown singles
Imagine if ability shielded stopped yours abilities from activating that would actually give Pokémon with bad abilities like Slaking a use plus with Switharoo it could be interesting
You should check out cybertron’s recent video. He just showcased a strat to get rid of slaking’s truant.
Not quite what you were saying, but tangentially related.
@@frankweeks5759 That's not really special though. Slaking has always had strats to remove it's ability in doubles, but if ability shield disabled your ability it not only wouldn't require the help of an ally but it would also enable slaking to disable it's ability in singles.
it would also be absolutely broken as hell please do not let slaking run rampant without that ability it has better bulk than groudon, recovery, bulk up, and a huge physical movepool it would be an absolute menace it would be really scary. like just imagine palafin but with 50% more bulk and reliable recovery
I wish this did happen
Another huge thing about clear amulet is that (at least in current showdown) if someone parting shots the clear amulet holder, the parting shot user will not switch out
Imo, the mirror herb is seriously underrated. It has so much potential and you basically have control over what you swagger and get a massive boost and force them to switch out their special attackers. Or maybe Wolfey is undermining it so others will be less tempted to use it on him. 😂
Can I ask a serious question? Does your opinion have an effect on the meta game? I'm serious, since you are the best battler in the world I'd imagine your words carry some weight.
I used loaded dice on my icicle spear arctibax for my whole playthrough once I caught him. Never hit less than 4 times, but definitely hits 4 more often than 5. Gave him a 100-125 BP 100% accurate STAB ice move that breaks sturdy/mimikyu/sub. Super good for a playthrough, not sure how great it would be for competitive
Azumarill could be somewhat good with the Ability Shield, It needs huge power to be any good so you might as well try to protect it
Choice Band is better
I found the clear amulet in my first play-through of violet and couldn’t believe that it was real. It’s amazing beefing up with swords dance ceruledge and forcing teams to take you out before you start sweeping. Definitely some huge potential that I’m excited to see play out in VGC with more competitive minded teams and strats
Very informational, thank you very much! Trying to get into VGC and this provides great context on the new items!
I think that wolfey didn’t understand the loaded dice. The loaded doesn’t mark it more LIKELY to hit a higher number of times it’s guaranteed to to hit 4 or 5 times so icicle spear and bullet seed always do at least 100 damage. I always run loaded dice on baxcalibur because of this.
I can see Punching Glove working really well with Machamp due tp high Attack or qny Iron Fist pokemon if it gets the elemental punches, as the item grants a choice band boost to them.
Iron Fist and Punching Glove doesn't stack, and the item boost is only 10%.
@@gengarzilla1685 Wait, for real? I read somewhere it was 50% for the punching Moves.
There was a brief moment during the new buffed Protective Pads item where I was like "how is he not raving about how good this is gonna be?" then I remembered "oh yeah, I play singles"
I often forget Wolfe is coming at these rankings with a totally different perspective from me, I remember tearing shit up in OU with Protective Pads Melmetal, imagine how busted that shit would be with Iron Fist, DIB, AND an item that boosts DIB and protects it from Rocky Helmet/Rough Skin chip...
I kinda hope they don't release Melmetal this gen, uh oh
From the look of it I'm pretty sure Loaded Dice guarantees the move hits at least 4 times so Bullet Seed would always be a guaranteed 100-125 power grass move. Not saying thay necessarily makes it good tho lol
I have been using a tactician Breloom with it holding the loaded dice and it's been pretty great. Focus Sash guarantees spore coming out but the loaded dice has been really good for breaking walls for me. Also most people expect spore so they switch almost instantly too.
@@TheMr.Logan9 I've been using it on Brambleghast cause Seed Bomb doesn't seem impactful enough and I don't want to use Power Whip lol but I'm just having fun with it
Oh sheeesh that maybe seems pretty good, esp with a chance to crit on each repeat
Clear Amulet is imo extremely healthy for the competitive meta. If it sees a lot of play it discourages the use of "debuffers", which in turn lowers the value of bringing the item in the first place. It opens up a really nice back and forth between hyper offense that can not allow to have its stats lowered under any circumstance and has to commit to the item no matter what, and more balanced teams that can take advantage of the lower density of "debuffers" in the meta.
I was wondering if ability shield has a use in non-competitive tera raids when the Pokémon nullifies abilities.
Also it could be used with trick to shut down any grafaiai strats that pop up (using fake out on the grafaiai slot). Though probably too niche to dedicate an entire pokemon to do. Just roaring is probably better.
I'm pretty sure I've seen people say they tested it and that it does not work in tera raids.
@@silvinity4939it works, i run it on huge power azumarill
For what it's worth, the Ability Shield allows you to keep your ability when Neutralizing Gas is present and when attacking Pokémon with Mummy / Wandering Spirit / Lingering Aroma.
Could you do a video on the top 20 or so items? I think it would be interesting and a way to learn more competitive strategy
I think Loaded Dice on Moxie Heracross can be funny and try to make pseudo mega heracross, plus Tera type Rock the heracross to bait flying types then hit them with 200-250 power rock blast
I've been loving the new amulet that prevents stat drops
Clear Amulet helps out more than just a protection against intimidate, being immune to speed control like icy wind or electroweb, blocking parting shot from even being used, and random stat drops from moves like play rough or shadow ball I'd argue are just as important if not more than blocking intimidate.
The protective pads were actually used a lot on Urshifu in high ladder OU
He's a vgc player all his videos are from a vgc perspective for the most part
Wolfe we need a tier list for every Pokémon. Thanks for all the great content!
A lot of these are really cool. Looking forward to how Ranked and VGC goes with the new items
The ability shield was designed for Tera raid battles, as when the tera raid boss gets angry and nulifies your side of the field, it also nulifies your pokemons ability, this item is gross on pokemon with levitate, well-baked body, etc
The punching glove is a 1.5x boost so if your attacking moves are already punching moves (like an iron fist mon or a breloom running Drain punch and Mach punch) it would basically be a Choice band without being locked into a move while also preventing negative contact effects. So, I think it should be a little higher.
That's disproven, it's only 1.1x. I think a low ranking is fair.
It doesn’t stack with Iron Fist, which is honestly dumb since the Muscle Band exists, which also boosts all physical attacks (which all punching moves are) by 10% and does stack with Iron Fist. Is not making contact really that valuable that they had to make it not stack with iron fist?
The subscribe reminders are actually quite helpful. I was watching one of your videos a while back and you mentioned about whatever % of people who watch are not subscribed and I was like "Pfft, who wouldn't sub after watching this content for so long?" Then happened to notice I had been watching for a while and just assumed I already was, so the reminder actually got me to click the button that I thought I already had.
Ability shield is 100% made with the tera raids in mind. Normally for 5* and above, when you get to the tera shield part the raid mon will nullify your ability, but with ability shield you prevent that. Super useful for higher difficulty raids you can't one shot
I didn't even think of that. I now need to get this item. Heheheheheheh.
Hey wolf, love your videos talking about moments from throughout VGC history and would love to see more of them!
Loaded dice koraidon🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
I will say, someone might have an Ability Shield on a Switcheroo user. It being a bad item in general is fine for that, but being able to counter ability-swapping shenanigans when they come up is icing on the cake.
During playthrough, I used Punching Glove on Annihilape since all its moves are punch moves anyway. I don't think it's as big of a boost as Iron Fist, but it might be worth using on something that's only using punch moves anyway.
I also liked finding out that Booster Energy, while it can only activate once per combat, isn't actually used up. In normal playthrough, it's still there being held. It makes me curious how it would interact with Knock Off, though. Will a used-up Booster Energy count as an item being held for Knock Off damage?
I feel like the mirror herb would be really good in singles, put it on a mixed attacker with some speed and you can prevent otherwise game ending sweep setups. Probably would be better off building a team to prevent sweeps in the first place but idk, its an interesting alt route that would allow you to maybe invest more heavily into offense
Loaded dice can turn a 25 base power move that hits up to 6 times, into a 150 base power move without any draw backs.
I would've like to see this layer out in an actual tier list format. I don't wanna have to rewatch the whole video
A follow up video on this would be really cool, with commentary on how these items are currently being used competitively and how that's different to your early thoughts and predictions in this video.
Just using a Clear Amulet on my Pawmot in my main quest playthrough, I could tell it was really strong.
Also, while Loaded Dice isn't fantastic, it probably has some of my favorite flavor of just about any held item
I think the biggest problem with punching gloves is that you would want to use it on a iron fist mon and most iron fist mon's got cut there are only two lines in the game that get it.
I think something could be done with a fast physical sweeper with a mirror herb and a grimmsnarl with swagger. Prankster swagger gives opposing mon a +2 which you then mirror herb and sweep? Possibly allows you to run more coverage since your item is your set up move?
I wonder if one of the uses for the ability shield that people aren't thinking about is stuff where you can prevent your ally from having their abilities swapped but you can still do it to yourself or vice versa. Like that new move doodle, which is basically roleplay for you and an ally. You could basically give your ally the opponent's ability but keep your own. That might actually be helpful on Grafaiai since it has prankster, and you could do some weird shenanigans like giving intimidate to your ally when you're up against an intimidate mon. Super gimmicky and situational, but it's a thought
The mirror Herb also has a bonus use outside of battle... in S/V, if you have a Pokémon with an open move slot, and another Pokémon that has a move that can be learned by TM, doing a picnic with those Pokémon can learn a move without using a TM, if the one you want the move on is holding the herb... for example, I had an Azumarill with an open slot, and a Hariyama with Belly Drum, gave the mirror Herb to my Azumarill, set up a picnic and immediately packed up, and my Azumarill learned Belly Drum without having to use a TM!
I think an interesting use case for the ability shield is if it can stop doodle from changing your ability or if you could stop the doodle slaking from happening with trick
But it is a very niche setup I reckon
@@xthulu5917 Slaking is a very real and powerhouse option in double battle formats because of ability swaps. A retaliate slaking is potentially lethal. And with an ability swap. This mon with a base stat only beaten by a very select few pokemon will be able to act every single turn. All while using the second mon for support to power up and keep slaking easily alive. Retaliate is also a normal type move. So giving it a silk scarf and terra normal would just mean retaliate slaking is instant death. And what ever other normal move potentially 0kos. Its THAT powerful.
Yes there will be faster setups. But clever players can break anything so I can agree with you on technicality. And that's the best kind of correct right?
ability shield could be tricked onto an opposing slaking attempting to change it's ability
The punching glove probably works best on an Iron Fist ability user or a fighting type that gets all the elemental punches. One I think would be good is Annihilape. Or at least that's how I used mine. Drain Punch, Rage Fist, Ice Punch, and possibly another elemental punch or just Shadow Punch.
you were SO wrong with loaded dice its kinda funny
Loaded dice turns 2-5 hit moves into 4-5 hit moves. Either excellent no drawback stab, or excellent no drawback coverage. Ultimately, it’s up to how much you value quality moves and your item slot.
Minor correction: Protective Pads was actually introduced in Gen7 and has indeed been a massively overlooked item since... and rightfully so.
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Ability shield is good for being protected by mold breakers, since it prevents your ability from being ignored
Ability Shield prevents Mold Breaker and Neutralizing Gas, which is actually huge.
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I can't wait to see someone make an epic montage of the ability shield
The really cool thing with the mirror herb is its out of battle effects. It can be used to give an egg move without having to breed for it regardless of egg group
btw, the Mirror Herb is more useful for it's secondary use outside of battle, to cut down on breeding time of passing down a specific Egg Move. Let me explain, you can use the Mirror Herb as a held item to teach an Egg Move it knows, to another Pokemon in your Party, eliminating the need of breeding to grant a specific Pokemon Species' Egg Move to the desired Pokemon. It does require that they share an Egg Group with the one they are trying to teach the Egg Move to, and it requires an open Move slot on the Pokemon learning the Move. You need to set up a picnic to get that teaching of Egg Moves to work though. I'm sure you're not at all unfamiliar with breeding though, as for a long time, breeding was more or less necessary to get competitive viable Pokemon till a certain Gen
I think loaded dice specifically on Technician Breloom is a massive buff. Multi-hitting a garenteed 4 and sometimes a lucky 5 is cracked even for nautral matchups.
I've best exploited this on teams that are slow.
I’ve been having a lot of fun with loaded dice on my bramblegast since having stab bullet seed that always hit 4-5 times makes it very good in the early game.
Im bored so while were on the topics of items, heres an idea for everyone Noivern Normal tera type with throat spray and boomburst, youre welcome
People who run Slaking with ability shield: “my goals are beyond your understanding”
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