Chilling, and also the perfect answer. No bs, no extra yapping for the guy on the other end to sort through. That was Sully's military training coming through.
I need to use that word more. Hey could you come in to work on your day off? Unable. Mom: we’re having a bbq could you bring everything? Unable. Girlfriend: let’s work it out. Unable we may land in the Hudson.
Just imagine thinking you had lost a passenger jet yet keeping your cool and continuing to safely direct other traffic. Much respect to this air traffic controller.
@@newsnowbc1934 You have no idea what you're talking about. He has it on his screen. He has a ground stop on LGA. Approach is diverting everything in the area. He is essentially talking to Cactus 1549 and a handful of other just-departed planes. The ONLY way it could matter is if there just happened to be a Cactus 1529 in that airspace at that moment. The likelihood of that is slim to none. And, even if there WAS a Cactus 1529...I'm pretty sure that they would know that the emergency instructions being barked out are not for them. I'll bet you're a grammar nazi, too.
Less than 4 minutes. Let that sink in for a moment. This plane lost thrust in both engines, and all this communication took place inside of 4 minutes. From 1500 ft, to landing in the Hudson river. The decision time, actions taken, clear communication, are an absolute testament to our pilots and controllers who face emergencies everyday. They considered 2 different airports, and 6 runways, running checklists for loss of thrust in both engines. If you watch other videos of ATC traffic during emergencies similar to this, with loss in one engine, they will spend 15-30 minutes in the air just holding and running checklists to setup for a landing. There are so many checks to run through, especially when the plane is overweight like it is right after takeoff. Just landing with that much fuel and weight can set the tires ablaze on landing, and completely change the configuration for what is normal for landing one of these planes. 4 MINUTES, and he put the plane down in a way where everyone survived. That is why Captain Sully is considered an hero, but there were many, many heroes here. Patrick Harten, the ATC controller here, is every bit as much of a hero as Captain Sully. He's not the first person thought of, and sitting in probably the most thankless job in all of air travel, but his quick thinking, clear communication, and routing of other air traffic saved this from being an unmitigated disaster that could have effected other planes in the area. He immediately shut down all departures, he contacted numerous airports, and he never gave up hope until the moment he was forced to relinquish his post. It brings tears to my eyes every time I think about him sitting there waiting to talk interview with the FAA, as is required, thinking he just lost all those souls in an instant. I cannot imagine a greater pain, than to have that on my conscience, even though it was unavoidable. Then the absolute glee he must have felt hearing that literally, every single soul on that plane, survived. There were so many people that made this landing a success. Imagine the ARFF vehicles scrambling to the runways at two different airports, the coast guard responding to the alert, the ships in the harbor relaying information and saving passengers from the bitter cold waters. New York came together on this day, as well as they did on 9/11. This is one of the densest airspaces in all of the world. The travesty of this video, is that it only captures the communications between ATC and the Plane, and there were hundreds of people communicating here, from ground crews, first responders, ships, to ARFF vehicles, Airport Operations, and even local police and fire crews. I imagine every single one of them had the same reaction of disbelief hearing that a Airbus A320-214 just went down into the Hudson river.
Agree with everything you say. espceially the credit to ATC Patrick Harten. If you haven't heard his personal reaction to the event, check this out: ruclips.net/video/YlvZkkPHtpI/видео.html
the controller asked that "silly question" because he couldn't believe that the pilot reported losing power in BOTH engines, so this was his way of asking for clarification because a twin engine airplane losing power on BOTH engines is just about "unheard of" considering the reliability of modern turbine engines.Also loss of BOTH engines means the plane is coming down so the controller needed to know what he was dealing with.Remember this controller is working SEVERAL other planes simultaneously
At the time, it really was unprecedented too. No one had heard of or even expected such a thing, no one trained for it. There wasn't a checklist for ditching at low altitude.
@@JohnDoe-zw6to No, he didn't. You can't just stop a plane mid takeoff or stop one low on fuel from landing. It takes time to clear runways with a plane lined up for take off, too
@@MyKillerson I hate to disagree, but I do. No, you can't tell an aircraft on takeoff roll to stop, but with an emergency approaching you can make sure nobody else starts a takeoff roll. The first thing controller Patrick Harten did was to contact the cab contoller at Laguardia and say "Stop your departures, got an emergency returning." Landing aircraft would be told to go around. In the case of an emergency, ATC's first priority is to GET THE PLANE ON THE GROUND. Whatever it takes. Controller Harten has made only a few interviews describing his feelings at the moment, but they are incredibly moving. Here is one of the earliest: ruclips.net/video/YlvZkkPHtpI/видео.html
He was talking to the person relieving him. I don't think it was the end of his shift, I think the boss told him to take a break after dealing with the emergency. The guy is asking "is it ok if I do this" and he's like "I can't deal right now, I trust you can figure it out"
Amazing execution and clarity of communication. New York TRACON thank you for everything you guys do. "Can I get him for runway 1? (Teterboro)" Immediate response "Runway 1 - that's good" from Teterboro ATC.
Still watching this after 14 years ! Its still awesome to listen this professional ATC-Pilot conversation. Sully`s coolness the whole time and the pressure and tension that grown on the ATC `s shoulders is just crazy. Sure i watched Sully already 5-6 times and it doesnt get old. Stunning , really Stunning the whole Story.
@@charonsferryold I'd go like: "CAN YOU GIVE ME A SEC?!...GEEEZ!....GOT CACTUS SWIMMIN IN HUDSON OR CRASHIN ANOTHER SCYSCRAPER IF YOU KEEP TALKIN YO BULLSHIT... WATCH YOUR FUEL AND LET ME DEAL WITH THIS BS GOD DAMN IT" ....Hi I'm Prajdy and I'd like to thank all for not putting me into ATC controller position.
As you can hear at the end of this audio clip, he was relieved by another controller just as quickly as this was possible. That's standard procedure for a controller who has handled a serious emergency.
In retrospect, the three most chilling moments are at 2:04, 2:47 and 3:15. What is also remarkable is the immediate response of the rescue craft. A normal day in all of these people's lives is transformed in an instant to a height of incredible challenge. They all rose to the occasion!
I think the controller was in denial. Having an aircraft going down on your watch, even if you couldn't do anything about it, is traumatic to say the least.
It's not useful to give up once he hears "we'll be in the Hudson". The ATC guy continues trying to make whatever arrangements he can, in the chance the plane regains control, or the situation changes otherwise. Until the situation is confirmed to be over, you keep trying to help.
Amazing how quick and efficient the conversation is between the controller and teterboro: I guess he dialed some special emergency direct connection :-)
You are correct, except it is not an emergency connection ... all ATC positions worldwide have a landline connection to adjacent positions. The touchpad you see the controller using allowed him first to contact LaGuardia Tower to "stop your departures" then Teterboro. Of course mostly it is routine communications but every call is treated the same, as expeditiously as possible
Plus the ATC had previously worked at Teterboro, too, so he had familiarity with their layout. All their experience goes into handling such a critical job in an emergency.
4:03 I felt so sorry for Patty, hearing the defeat in his voice there. He was ready to go crawl in a hole And he said it took the other controllers 45 minutes to remember to go tell him everyone survived!
@@kittensgalore.5444 that rings whenever there is a Major Failure/Issue with the aircraft. Simply put, if you hear that and don't do anything about it, you're likely going to die.
@@kittensgalore.5444 Very old comment but thought I'd answer anyway. Master caution and warning alarm sounds and lights up means one of the systems it monitors is reporting an issue. There are too many systems that can trigger this to list, but all are essential to normal flight. It is a general warning to the pilots that says, something is wrong, do something now or the aircraft might crash. It's basically a pre-crash warning. In this case, it was triggered by the very obvious loss of power to both engines, and also subsequent loss of electrical power.
I saw the film "Sully" yesterday. I thought they did a good job recreating the scene. But in the film (At 1:17 in this video) he gives the proper flight number. According to Sully himself due to the stressful situation he was in made a mistake when he gave the flight number as 1539. The ATC guy also made that mistake in real life but in the film he gave the right flight number as well.
yeah in reality both Sully and Patrick gave slighty wrong numbers (1529, 1539) but it didnt mattered in the end.. the movie corrected that.. i wouldnt had corrected.. maybe they were fearing people would be confused and left overthinking about the slip and not pay attention to the following sequence
Happens a lot during emergencies. The captain of a British Airways 777 that lost engine power just before landing at Heathrow back in 2008 did the same thing. The flight numbers usually change every time a plane completes a flight regardless of whether a new crew takes over.
You have to admire the calm in these men. Basically he heard someone say they are going to land about 300 people flying a plane into a river and he just keeps doing his job not skipping a beat.
At the very end. the Controller was relieved from his post. You can hear him removing his head set. (NO he did nothing wrong but every time there is an accident and the controller is involved. They have to be relieved for a drug test and statement).
so amazing how perfect the atc and pilot handelt the sitiuation. At 2:43 he mate his final decision and isn´t answering atc anymore, because he needs to focus. "textbook maneuver" :)
ATC had to keep the options coming JUST IN CASE the pilots Can here and they just Cannot reply… AMAZING JOB, he cleared so many runways just in case he was still in the air.
@@johnyringo6890 That's not true. Cactus indicated that it was a US Airways plane. The same as Speedbird indicates a British Airways plane. The numbers indicate exactly which plane it is. Multiple planes circling Heathrow - many of them likely to be Speedbirds!! At LaGuardia 1549 was the only departing Cactus that the controller was dealing with. The fact that they all got the numbers wrong was an indication of the stress they were under. It was the only thing that gave away Sully's initial shock. Only 208 seconds from take off to being in the Hudson.
@Johny Ringo we're human, not robots. With context both parties knew who the other was talking to. You'll notice Cactus didn't recite their callsign either after the birdstrike.
Let’s not forget the First Officer on that day did his part in bringing that aircraft down safely. First officers are often forgotten. No I’m not a first officer. I’m not even a pilot, I do work in aviation though. Regardless, this is still absolutely amazing that everything fell into place and they immediately reverted to training and instinct and added to aviation history. Well done gentlemen, well done.
After 3 years of training, exams, skill checks, i will be a first officer and fly an A320. Every time i doubted myself, i just came back and listened to this clip. Cpt. Sullenberger is a damn fine aviator.
It's what ATCs are trained to do. Pilots are taught to fly the airplane first and if they don't have time to call on the radio they don't. During an emergency situation, ATCs will keep talking unless the pilot comes on and says "stand by". He actually can tell on his radar that cactus is still in the air, the pilots aren't responding because they're scrambling to try and land the plane safely. When radar contact is lost it was probably still flying for a few seconds after that--just too low for the radar.
Yeah, someone was frustrated with the ATC for not hearing "Hudson" repeatedly, but it's completely unprofessional to interrupt frequency like that to insult an ATC who should still be providing runways anyway.
+thakrak You can hear it in his voice during the following transmissions. He's doing his job well directing the other traffic but you can sense how subdued he is not knowing how bad it is.
+theMoerster Of course it was funny to me 'cause we all know the happy ending. Plus, the ATC acted like a real hero. All he knows is he has probably just lost a plane into a river; but after two or three "alrights" and "ahms" he kept his act together, and continued to direct traffic... The complete transcript of this event, including emergency departments is awesome and shows how extremely profesional these guys are.
I think he just refused to believe it fir a bit cause what are the chances of dual engine failure at 2000 ft right after takeoff and it’s in a densely populated area with tall skyscrapers and we know how much a disaster that could have been from past experience. And when he said we’re going to end up in the Hudson he was just like “nah” cause there’s usually at least one casualty in a ditching.
No, its “left” traffic meaning that he would be joining the left hand traffic pattern for landing on the runway. “Less” traffic does not make any sense as in an emergency, the ATC would clear any traffic that are in the way no matter how dense it is and they are trained to not pass any useless information to the pilots. It is critical for the pilot to know left or right traffic pattern as if he was able to get an engine working, the plane would be able to either turn left or turn right only due to the asymmetrical thrust from just running one engine.
Radio communication can sometimes be a bit spotty; pilots and ATC use a number of conventions minimize ambiguity. One of those is spelling numbers out by digit ("one-two" instead of "twelve").
you do realize they lost BOTH engines right? i don't understand the point you're trying to make. yes, an A320 could fly on a single GE90, but an A320 could also fly on a single of its own engines. derp
@@LiveATCClips The mayday was called, but it was blocked by the controller's turn instruction at 1:15 (as detailed in the transcript of the cockpit voice recording)
In addition to the above, in the US, ATCs have the authority to declare an emergency on behalf of the pilot, essentially, when it's obvious. "Understand you have an emergency" is something you'll hear sometimes, and it prompts the pilot to countermand it if the ATC really did get it wrong.
May I recommend after this video, watching this one: ruclips.net/video/qiATqDUEP6k/видео.html The absolute "dropping like a rock" altitude gives a very clear impression of the situation. Just found the video today.
Legend has it he is still offering runways to Cactus 1549 to this day
I cackled
Lmao
Haha 😂 Bless him.
I feel so bad for the controller when the plane goes off the radar. He did an amazing job.
you mean 1529 😄
Love the NY accent on the ATC.
The one-word response
"Unable." is chilling.
DaisyLee1963 seriously
it really is!
Chilling, and also the perfect answer. No bs, no extra yapping for the guy on the other end to sort through. That was Sully's military training coming through.
I need to use that word more. Hey could you come in to work on your day off? Unable. Mom: we’re having a bbq could you bring everything? Unable. Girlfriend: let’s work it out. Unable we may land in the Hudson.
@@alexandersuarez6835 😂😂😂
Just imagine thinking you had lost a passenger jet yet keeping your cool and continuing to safely direct other traffic. Much respect to this air traffic controller.
1529 or 1549? These things matter. He was right to lose his abilities, but this job probably isnt for him.
@@newsnowbc1934 You have no idea what you're talking about. He has it on his screen. He has a ground stop on LGA. Approach is diverting everything in the area. He is essentially talking to Cactus 1549 and a handful of other just-departed planes. The ONLY way it could matter is if there just happened to be a Cactus 1529 in that airspace at that moment. The likelihood of that is slim to none. And, even if there WAS a Cactus 1529...I'm pretty sure that they would know that the emergency instructions being barked out are not for them.
I'll bet you're a grammar nazi, too.
Less than 4 minutes. Let that sink in for a moment. This plane lost thrust in both engines, and all this communication took place inside of 4 minutes. From 1500 ft, to landing in the Hudson river. The decision time, actions taken, clear communication, are an absolute testament to our pilots and controllers who face emergencies everyday. They considered 2 different airports, and 6 runways, running checklists for loss of thrust in both engines. If you watch other videos of ATC traffic during emergencies similar to this, with loss in one engine, they will spend 15-30 minutes in the air just holding and running checklists to setup for a landing. There are so many checks to run through, especially when the plane is overweight like it is right after takeoff. Just landing with that much fuel and weight can set the tires ablaze on landing, and completely change the configuration for what is normal for landing one of these planes. 4 MINUTES, and he put the plane down in a way where everyone survived.
That is why Captain Sully is considered an hero, but there were many, many heroes here. Patrick Harten, the ATC controller here, is every bit as much of a hero as Captain Sully. He's not the first person thought of, and sitting in probably the most thankless job in all of air travel, but his quick thinking, clear communication, and routing of other air traffic saved this from being an unmitigated disaster that could have effected other planes in the area. He immediately shut down all departures, he contacted numerous airports, and he never gave up hope until the moment he was forced to relinquish his post. It brings tears to my eyes every time I think about him sitting there waiting to talk interview with the FAA, as is required, thinking he just lost all those souls in an instant.
I cannot imagine a greater pain, than to have that on my conscience, even though it was unavoidable. Then the absolute glee he must have felt hearing that literally, every single soul on that plane, survived. There were so many people that made this landing a success. Imagine the ARFF vehicles scrambling to the runways at two different airports, the coast guard responding to the alert, the ships in the harbor relaying information and saving passengers from the bitter cold waters. New York came together on this day, as well as they did on 9/11. This is one of the densest airspaces in all of the world. The travesty of this video, is that it only captures the communications between ATC and the Plane, and there were hundreds of people communicating here, from ground crews, first responders, ships, to ARFF vehicles, Airport Operations, and even local police and fire crews. I imagine every single one of them had the same reaction of disbelief hearing that a Airbus A320-214 just went down into the Hudson river.
When I watch that scene on the film it always makes me tear up thinking of everyone pulling together to make it work 😌
Brilliant analysis!
Well written Sir.
Agree with everything you say. espceially the credit to ATC Patrick Harten. If you haven't heard his personal reaction to the event, check this out: ruclips.net/video/YlvZkkPHtpI/видео.html
Everytime I listen to this tape I get goosebumps, absolutely amazing
aww that poor Tower Controller, you can hear it in his voice. He's completely upset about the thought of the plane crashing.
He didn’t actually know it had landed until later, I guess he would have just assumed it had crashed ☹️
which controller? The person we're hearing for most of this clip is the new york TRACON, but multiple airport towers are heard at various points
TBF, the plane did crash land, it just crash landed with zero fatalities.
the controller asked that "silly question" because he couldn't believe that the pilot reported losing power in BOTH engines, so this was his way of asking for clarification because a twin engine airplane losing power on BOTH engines is just about "unheard of" considering the reliability of modern turbine engines.Also loss of BOTH engines means the plane is coming down so the controller needed to know what he was dealing with.Remember this controller is working SEVERAL other planes simultaneously
At the time, it really was unprecedented too. No one had heard of or even expected such a thing, no one trained for it. There wasn't a checklist for ditching at low altitude.
yea, it's rare but happened again recently with pk8303 on an A320 :(
Very professional crew and ATC. The controller offered him like 5 or 6 runways in the zone. =O
@@JohnDoe-zw6to
No, he didn't. You can't just stop a plane mid takeoff or stop one low on fuel from landing. It takes time to clear runways with a plane lined up for take off, too
@@MyKillerson What? That made zero sense...
@@beckramsey7746 i'de say negative 1 sense.
@@MyKillerson I hate to disagree, but I do. No, you can't tell an aircraft on takeoff roll to stop, but with an emergency approaching you can make sure nobody else starts a takeoff roll. The first thing controller Patrick Harten did was to contact the cab contoller at Laguardia and say "Stop your departures, got an emergency returning." Landing aircraft would be told to go around. In the case of an emergency, ATC's first priority is to GET THE PLANE ON THE GROUND. Whatever it takes. Controller Harten has made only a few interviews describing his feelings at the moment, but they are incredibly moving. Here is one of the earliest: ruclips.net/video/YlvZkkPHtpI/видео.html
WOW!!! "Grace under pressure" for BOTH pilot and ESPECIALLY the controller.
4:00 "Whatever, dude. A plane's crashing, bro"
He was talking to the person relieving him. I don't think it was the end of his shift, I think the boss told him to take a break after dealing with the emergency. The guy is asking "is it ok if I do this" and he's like "I can't deal right now, I trust you can figure it out"
I'll never get tired of the "He lost thrust in... WHICH engine?" line
Amazing execution and clarity of communication. New York TRACON thank you for everything you guys do. "Can I get him for runway 1? (Teterboro)" Immediate response "Runway 1 - that's good" from Teterboro ATC.
2:46 We're gonna be in the Hudson with the "not good" alarm in the background, chills
Still watching this after 14 years ! Its still awesome to listen this professional ATC-Pilot conversation. Sully`s coolness the whole time and the pressure and tension that grown on the ATC `s shoulders is just crazy. Sure i watched Sully already 5-6 times and it doesnt get old. Stunning , really Stunning the whole Story.
I can’t believe he has to give directions to other planes while dealing with the plane in emergency. Crazy...
Has to, unless you want more emergencies...
Truth Seeker he had to keep the airspace completely clear
"Can you hold a moment, just don't run out of fuel I'm already dealing with one plane with no engines."
@@charonsferryold I'd go like: "CAN YOU GIVE ME A SEC?!...GEEEZ!....GOT CACTUS SWIMMIN IN HUDSON OR CRASHIN ANOTHER SCYSCRAPER IF YOU KEEP TALKIN YO BULLSHIT... WATCH YOUR FUEL AND LET ME DEAL WITH THIS BS GOD DAMN IT"
....Hi I'm Prajdy and I'd like to thank all for not putting me into ATC controller position.
As you can hear at the end of this audio clip, he was relieved by another controller just as quickly as this was possible. That's standard procedure for a controller who has handled a serious emergency.
Awesome work by the controller. Works the emergency and the rest of the airplanes around the sector with few hiccups. Good stuff.
In retrospect, the three most chilling moments are at 2:04, 2:47 and 3:15. What is also remarkable is the immediate response of the rescue craft. A normal day in all of these people's lives is transformed in an instant to a height of incredible challenge. They all rose to the occasion!
The ATC guy is an absolute legend!
I think the controller was in denial. Having an aircraft going down on your watch, even if you couldn't do anything about it, is traumatic to say the least.
Not denial, more astonishment because what he was hearing was unprecedented. Dual-engine failure just after take-off? No one expected such a thing.
He did everything he could to advise, just couldn’t do it
It's not useful to give up once he hears "we'll be in the Hudson". The ATC guy continues trying to make whatever arrangements he can, in the chance the plane regains control, or the situation changes otherwise. Until the situation is confirmed to be over, you keep trying to help.
Poor Patrick went THROUGH it. Hours of thinking everyone died, i can't imagine. I wish we had video of him and Sully finding out everyone lived.
A hero that does not want to be known as one. But simply a man doing his job
Amazing how quick and efficient the conversation is between the controller and teterboro: I guess he dialed some special emergency direct connection :-)
You are correct, except it is not an emergency connection ... all ATC positions worldwide have a landline connection to adjacent positions. The touchpad you see the controller using allowed him first to contact LaGuardia Tower to "stop your departures" then Teterboro. Of course mostly it is routine communications but every call is treated the same, as expeditiously as possible
Plus the ATC had previously worked at Teterboro, too, so he had familiarity with their layout. All their experience goes into handling such a critical job in an emergency.
@@GeckoHiker this job is amazing and scary at same time
this atc was soo good.. he knew every possibilty to land , even though it didnt matter in the end
In the end it doesn't matter.
Hudson Sully knew what he had to do. Huge props to Sully, what a pilot!
Multitasking at it's best level! Great work by Atc controller
"We're unable we may end up in the Hudson" is at the same level of "Ok, Houston, we've had a problem here" quote
4:03 I felt so sorry for Patty, hearing the defeat in his voice there. He was ready to go crawl in a hole And he said it took the other controllers 45 minutes to remember to go tell him everyone survived!
The capability of both the pilot and the controller in this situation is awesome!
2:47 Master caution sound in back ground.
amoodi that’s a chilling sound
@@nass2000_ what does it mean?
@@kittensgalore.5444 that rings whenever there is a Major Failure/Issue with the aircraft. Simply put, if you hear that and don't do anything about it, you're likely going to die.
@@kittensgalore.5444 Very old comment but thought I'd answer anyway. Master caution and warning alarm sounds and lights up means one of the systems it monitors is reporting an issue. There are too many systems that can trigger this to list, but all are essential to normal flight. It is a general warning to the pilots that says, something is wrong, do something now or the aircraft might crash. It's basically a pre-crash warning. In this case, it was triggered by the very obvious loss of power to both engines, and also subsequent loss of electrical power.
I saw the film "Sully" yesterday. I thought they did a good job recreating the scene. But in the film (At 1:17 in this video) he gives the proper flight number. According to Sully himself due to the stressful situation he was in made a mistake when he gave the flight number as 1539. The ATC guy also made that mistake in real life but in the film he gave the right flight number as well.
eh.
yeah in reality both Sully and Patrick gave slighty wrong numbers (1529, 1539) but it didnt mattered in the end.. the movie corrected that.. i wouldnt had corrected.. maybe they were fearing people would be confused and left overthinking about the slip and not pay attention to the following sequence
Happens a lot during emergencies. The captain of a British Airways 777 that lost engine power just before landing at Heathrow back in 2008 did the same thing. The flight numbers usually change every time a plane completes a flight regardless of whether a new crew takes over.
You have to admire the calm in these men. Basically he heard someone say they are going to land about 300 people flying a plane into a river and he just keeps doing his job not skipping a beat.
No choice. ATC is very much do or die
At the very end. the Controller was relieved from his post. You can hear him removing his head set.
(NO he did nothing wrong but every time there is an accident and the controller is involved. They have to be relieved for a drug test
and statement).
Also because a stressed controller is going to make mistakes. Can't have him managing any more traffic.
so amazing how perfect the atc and pilot handelt the sitiuation. At 2:43 he mate his final decision and isn´t answering atc anymore, because he needs to focus. "textbook maneuver" :)
It is great. Aviate Navigate Troubleshoot Communicate. What good is atc when you crash? Fly the plane.
great controller, he just managed the situation very fast and calm.
ATC had to keep the options coming JUST IN CASE the pilots Can here and they just Cannot reply… AMAZING JOB, he cleared so many runways just in case he was still in the air.
Cactus 1549...Cactus 1539... Cactus 1529... At least they all knew who was meant.
Cactus is the call sign regardless of numbers, it is the call sign that is most important to ATC, is what is meant.
@@johnyringo6890 That's not true. Cactus indicated that it was a US Airways plane. The same as Speedbird indicates a British Airways plane. The numbers indicate exactly which plane it is. Multiple planes circling Heathrow - many of them likely to be Speedbirds!! At LaGuardia 1549 was the only departing Cactus that the controller was dealing with. The fact that they all got the numbers wrong was an indication of the stress they were under. It was the only thing that gave away Sully's initial shock. Only 208 seconds from take off to being in the Hudson.
It happens frequently, in busy environments there is little to no benefit in correcting a controller or pilot who mistakes one number.
@Johny Ringo we're human, not robots. With context both parties knew who the other was talking to. You'll notice Cactus didn't recite their callsign either after the birdstrike.
2:45 Sully responds almost like it's a small nuisance. what a boss.
It is interesting to listen to the pilot, who remained very "calm" ad polite in that troublesome situation
Oh wow you can hear the sorrow in his voice.
how quick and pro are the tower people, no stuffing around.
Let’s not forget the First Officer on that day did his part in bringing that aircraft down safely. First officers are often forgotten. No I’m not a first officer. I’m not even a pilot, I do work in aviation though. Regardless, this is still absolutely amazing that everything fell into place and they immediately reverted to training and instinct and added to aviation history. Well done gentlemen, well done.
Cactus 1529 needs to go to the airport RIGHT NOW. I love the understatements
After 3 years of training, exams, skill checks, i will be a first officer and fly an A320. Every time i doubted myself, i just came back and listened to this clip. Cpt. Sullenberger is a damn fine aviator.
So how's it going so far?
"Cactus 1549 Radar contact is lost " gives me goosebumps every time I hear it
Because the plane dropped too low
Perfectly handeled by everyone involved.. (except the birds).
He must have been terrified learning about the bird strike, maybe that's why he made the wrong calls on the fly numbers.
It speaks so much to New York that the only response everyone who saw it go in just immediately thought "well, we gotta do something about that"
You can see the emotional impact as he repeats the name of the flight wrong as his brain was processing what on the Hudson meant.
I'm wandering about the controller still talking to cactus1549 multiple times without reply.. And staying so calm doing it :)
It's what ATCs are trained to do. Pilots are taught to fly the airplane first and if they don't have time to call on the radio they don't. During an emergency situation, ATCs will keep talking unless the pilot comes on and says "stand by". He actually can tell on his radar that cactus is still in the air, the pilots aren't responding because they're scrambling to try and land the plane safely. When radar contact is lost it was probably still flying for a few seconds after that--just too low for the radar.
That poor air traffic control probably thought the worst had occurred.
What's amazing is that the Captain was operating 2 flights at the same time. Cactus 1549 AND 1529.
Hero. Saved all on board and prevented tragedy on ground if he'd heated for an airport. Well done captain.
Around 2:11 to 2:12 it sounds like someone is saying "idiot" in between the two transmissions.
Yeah, someone was frustrated with the ATC for not hearing "Hudson" repeatedly, but it's completely unprofessional to interrupt frequency like that to insult an ATC who should still be providing runways anyway.
Absolutely chilling
Air traffic control is more nervous than Capt Sully . Capt Sully is so calm .. well he is well experienced
Even though we know the outcome, this hit me hard.
US1549, 3U8633 and U6178, they are all Airbus A320 family. So would these events thank to fly-by-wire technology?
Hahahahahahahahaha. Epic ATC WTF:
2:50: Ahmf... I'm sorry, say again Cactus??
Man, how that guy must have felt; he lost a fucking plane in his face...
thakrak yeah that feeling must suck! as a pilot I dont wish that to anyone! this situation is very intense, some people dont know how intense this is
+thakrak You can hear it in his voice during the following transmissions. He's doing his job well directing the other traffic but you can sense how subdued he is not knowing how bad it is.
+theMoerster Of course it was funny to me 'cause we all know the happy ending. Plus, the ATC acted like a real hero. All he knows is he has probably just lost a plane into a river; but after two or three "alrights" and "ahms" he kept his act together, and continued to direct traffic... The complete transcript of this event, including emergency departments is awesome and shows how extremely profesional these guys are.
hush.
I think he just refused to believe it fir a bit cause what are the chances of dual engine failure at 2000 ft right after takeoff and it’s in a densely populated area with tall skyscrapers and we know how much a disaster that could have been from past experience. And when he said we’re going to end up in the Hudson he was just like “nah” cause there’s usually at least one casualty in a ditching.
Intense!
Controller changed 3 times first was 1549 then 1539 then 1529
i kinda was waiting for a 1519 :D
Sheesh! Not even enough time for the flight crew to make a "Mayday!" call.
Im sorry, say again cactus?
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Alright
Lmao 😂
anyone notice the mistake they say at 1:36? its 1549 not 1529!
It seems like you also hear “1539” and “1529” at different points of the comms.
yes. The captain mistakenly said 1539 and the ATC mistakenly 1529
2:03 and 2:07 I think he's saying "less" traffic, not "left" traffic.
No, its “left” traffic meaning that he would be joining the left hand traffic pattern for landing on the runway.
“Less” traffic does not make any sense as in an emergency, the ATC would clear any traffic that are in the way no matter how dense it is and they are trained to not pass any useless information to the pilots.
It is critical for the pilot to know left or right traffic pattern as if he was able to get an engine working, the plane would be able to either turn left or turn right only due to the asymmetrical thrust from just running one engine.
We're gonna be in the hudson. Lol say again?
Wonderful job! There aren’t that many Sullies....
In all of the commotion both of them fumbled up the flight number.
Mike Whiskey...what meaning in Air traffic control.?
Meant for letters. M for Mike, W for Whiskey
came here from the movie. disappointed to see there wasn't actually any maday call
it is so hard to understand they speak so fast and fluent, how come they dont mess up the instructions? respek!
the birds met the same fate as the engines. dead.
You're bothered about that?!?!?!?!
Why is the controller saying "one two thousand" instead of twelve thousand?
Radio communication can sometimes be a bit spotty; pilots and ATC use a number of conventions minimize ambiguity. One of those is spelling numbers out by digit ("one-two" instead of "twelve").
2:28 is "go ahead"
Poor ATC guy..
He took off as Cactus 1549.
Hit birds as 1539.
Lost engines as 1529.
Really thought he'd land as Cactus 1519. 🤣
chill dude, departure did a great job, how do you know how he heard that?
Interesting how he kept saying 1529
Thanks
to prevent this, i believe every commercial aircraft should have ge90-115 engines lol.
you do realize they lost BOTH engines right? i don't understand the point you're trying to make. yes, an A320 could fly on a single GE90, but an A320 could also fly on a single of its own engines. derp
It would double at least double the cost of a seat not to mention too powerful an engine.
the good & smart captain pilot she do make good choice because she know what happen to passengers and plane...before do the choice
It..its a dude flying the plane...a old dude at that...
How does Chesley Sullenburg actually sound like Tom Hanks...
Maybe U.S Airways...
Is America West part of U.S Airways?
mack275 now it is. Sadly, we lost the "cactus" callsign due to the merger
rip bird
Hello I am wondering if I can use your video on my channel please?
wat airline is cactus?
US Airways
2023 Hello !
No mayday call?
Not required, emergency can simply be said but also declared by ATC if needed.
@@LiveATCClips The mayday was called, but it was blocked by the controller's turn instruction at 1:15 (as detailed in the transcript of the cockpit voice recording)
Blocked by the departure controller's turn instruction at 1:15
I have a doubt why he didn't say may day mayday
He did, but it was cut off. There's a cockpit transcript. Only in writing.
In addition to the above, in the US, ATCs have the authority to declare an emergency on behalf of the pilot, essentially, when it's obvious. "Understand you have an emergency" is something you'll hear sometimes, and it prompts the pilot to countermand it if the ATC really did get it wrong.
what happened to the birds that where hit??
and the controller sounds like peter griffin of family guy xD
You can’t fly a cactus and expect not to crash.
Sully is cool and collected
America West.
Aviate, Navigate, Comunicate...
EMPYR
1:17 sorry man
May I recommend after this video, watching this one: ruclips.net/video/qiATqDUEP6k/видео.html
The absolute "dropping like a rock" altitude gives a very clear impression of the situation. Just found the video today.
usair
1549
lol..Imagine a 737 with 2 ge90s! a single ge90 could even power a 747!
That allready exists...its called Boeing 757 XD