The station should be boosted into a higher museum orbit. And replace the Functional Cargo Block and Zarya modules. The staggering cost of launching all the payloads that made the ISS not just including the development, deployment, maintenance, point to refurbishment not deorbiting.
How is Solar radiation making station redundant? ISS can only be redundant if there is excess orbital capacity for habitation, operations and research. An argument can be made that the ISS is suffering extended wear from radiation. Nothing will be ready in 2030 to replace the ISS or its capabilities.
IT SHOULD BE PRESERVED. Park it out of the way and keep it as a space museum, autonomously dock other exhibits to it, like a space version of the USS Intrepid!
@@FishyAltFishy it could be pushed into orbit refuelled and have a faring storage holder bit attached to the front which can carry down the modules. A bit too expensive as far as the government is concerned, I imagine.
The first Module of the ISS, Russia's Zarya module, was launched in late1998 followed by the second Russian module, Zvezda in mid 2000. Astronaut's didn't occupy the ISS until later that year in Nov. The breakup of the Shuttle Columbia in 2003 pretty much halted Expansion of the ISS by the U.S. That's just under 2 decades of research by international communities for whatever projects were deemed important for a zero gravity environment by developers. So, what have we learned in 20 yrs of Very expensive Zero Gravity Research and what of this expensive science can be applied to a manned expeditions on the Moon or Mars? We see plenty of coverage of Astronaut travel to and from the ISS but don't hear much of what's being learned up there. Yes, I get that there are Gov and Corporate secrets surrounding some of the Research, but the majority of the ISS is paid for by me and you. So what's goin on up there ?
2023 is this year. Space shuttles don’t fly any more. The shuttle Columbia flew in 1981, and it didn’t break up. In fact, it flew five more flights after. NASA is still expanding the ISS. Literally every experiment they do up there is documented and freely available. Many are even suggested by the public, not the government. Some experiments that can be used for flights to the moon and mars are literally just living up there. We need to know what zero g does on the body, so the first astronauts on mars don’t have their bones disintegrate or something weird like that. There are plenty of medical experiments. How the human body works in space, how to grow plants in space, how other animals work in space, things like that. the ISS is very busy.
U bring up some valid points and some people don’t understand how much effort and money is used to maintain the station. With the Ukrainian / RUSSIAN issue now interjected into the politics of the costs / benefits of “collaboration” it makes these decisions a bit more clear. Of course it will be a sad moment for some when it comes down as there is no “easy way” to just store it away somewhere without the likely potential of the structure breaking apart. Worked with people who designed the exercise equipment to try to maintain the calcium levels in the astronaut’s bones and have a son-in-law who has an experiment on fire propagation in zero-g on the ISS now. Both of these items are very important to understand. That being said, 2031 is not soon enough to be moving on. The money is better spent elsewhere.
@@kypickle8252 If you didn't realize the date I gave for the Columbia breakup was a typo then you're not that perceptive. I think that's pretty obvious. Yea, I know the ISS hi scheduled to be funded for nearly another decade, and I can find most answers to what I've asked online. I just wanted to hear what this channel had to say about the subject. So, tell me something I don't know already.
@@Mentaculus42 That's kinda where I was goin w/ my questions about what benefits the Public has gained from all this very expensive Zero Gravity research on the ISS. It's obvious all space agencies involved have their own set of Gov & State funded experiments, and some can't be shared. Just wondering if we can apply what's learned on the ISS to the new commercial space race the world is into right now. The Moon and Mars are on the radar for other countries besides the U.S.. It would be nice for someone to do the research and put together a YT episode on how the ISS has furthered our desire to revisit the Moon and put human footprints on Mars. I'm sure there's more to the story than what I've been seeing on YT. Lots of coverage on Resupply and Crewed missions but not much coverage on what they're doing once they get there. The politics involved in the eventual "decommissioning" of the ISS could be interesting as well.
@@uuzd4s you don’t have to be rude about it, i was just trying to help i’ve seen people see some pretty wild stuff about rocket launches so forgive me for thinking you got a year wrong one time i saw someone say SLS was made of wood
Too bad we can’t bring the ISS back home. At least we have a replica at NASA. Wonder if we will get to see it someday.
oh, like them using the replica as a public museum? I would like that.
I wonder if there's any 1 to 1 virtual reality spaces of it people can explore.
Sad times to see the ISS go.
It would be nice if the Canada Arm could be moved to what ever replaces the ISS
What are we going to replace it with now we have no shuttles
I'm gonna be so sad to see the ISS go. I still think it should be kept as a backbone for future stations
NASA killed more 7 astronauts on 02/01/2003. This is the reason why NASA wants to retire the ISS. NASA is careless and irresponsible.
It absolutely should not. Do you just not get what all those impacts, mechanical tensions, and radiation are doing to the structure?
The station should be boosted into a higher museum orbit. And replace the Functional Cargo Block and Zarya modules. The staggering cost of launching all the payloads that made the ISS not just including the development, deployment, maintenance, point to refurbishment not deorbiting.
I second this museum orbit idea.
Solar radiation is making the ISS redundant
How is Solar radiation making station redundant? ISS can only be redundant if there is excess orbital capacity for habitation, operations and research. An argument can be made that the ISS is suffering extended wear from radiation. Nothing will be ready in 2030 to replace the ISS or its capabilities.
IT SHOULD BE PRESERVED.
Park it out of the way and keep it as a space museum, autonomously dock other exhibits to it, like a space version of the USS Intrepid!
😎 Hour by hour....Not like I am streaming Starbase or the ISS over here...
Space X was chosen yesterday Jun 26th 2024 as the company to prepare a ship to deorbit the ISS!
Spinlaunch and easter egg machines that can safely bring them back
Maybe let’s get starship to disassemble it
And it’s impossible to keep this as a space Museum floating in orbit as a tourist destination maybe?
Sure, sounds like they’ll swing it by your place to pick you up
@@jakeroper1096 why? I’m a space tourist I’m paying to go to space so I think this would be a good field trip stop
Things can change in this time, such as Spacex disassembling it using the starship
U.s.a can't afford to have the worlds most powerful military and pay for NASA,thats just nuts
I’ve always wondered if starship could deorbit the modules safely one by one
If they can be full operational, then maybe... if not all I hope for some module would be great.
I think starship was designed to land empty.
@@FishyAltFishy it could be pushed into orbit refuelled and have a faring storage holder bit attached to the front which can carry down the modules.
A bit too expensive as far as the government is concerned, I imagine.
Billion dollar tin can.
The first Module of the ISS, Russia's Zarya module, was launched in late1998 followed by the second Russian module, Zvezda in mid 2000. Astronaut's didn't occupy the ISS until later that year in Nov. The breakup of the Shuttle Columbia in 2003 pretty much halted Expansion of the ISS by the U.S. That's just under 2 decades of research by international communities for whatever projects were deemed important for a zero gravity environment by developers. So, what have we learned in 20 yrs of Very expensive Zero Gravity Research and what of this expensive science can be applied to a manned expeditions on the Moon or Mars? We see plenty of coverage of Astronaut travel to and from the ISS but don't hear much of what's being learned up there. Yes, I get that there are Gov and Corporate secrets surrounding some of the Research, but the majority of the ISS is paid for by me and you. So what's goin on up there ?
2023 is this year. Space shuttles don’t fly any more. The shuttle Columbia flew in 1981, and it didn’t break up. In fact, it flew five more flights after. NASA is still expanding the ISS. Literally every experiment they do up there is documented and freely available. Many are even suggested by the public, not the government.
Some experiments that can be used for flights to the moon and mars are literally just living up there. We need to know what zero g does on the body, so the first astronauts on mars don’t have their bones disintegrate or something weird like that. There are plenty of medical experiments. How the human body works in space, how to grow plants in space, how other animals work in space, things like that. the ISS is very busy.
U bring up some valid points and some people don’t understand how much effort and money is used to maintain the station. With the Ukrainian / RUSSIAN issue now interjected into the politics of the costs / benefits of “collaboration” it makes these decisions a bit more clear.
Of course it will be a sad moment for some when it comes down as there is no “easy way” to just store it away somewhere without the likely potential of the structure breaking apart.
Worked with people who designed the exercise equipment to try to maintain the calcium levels in the astronaut’s bones and have a son-in-law who has an experiment on fire propagation in zero-g on the ISS now. Both of these items are very important to understand. That being said, 2031 is not soon enough to be moving on.
The money is better spent elsewhere.
@@kypickle8252 If you didn't realize the date I gave for the Columbia breakup was a typo then you're not that perceptive. I think that's pretty obvious. Yea, I know the ISS hi scheduled to be funded for nearly another decade, and I can find most answers to what I've asked online. I just wanted to hear what this channel had to say about the subject. So, tell me something I don't know already.
@@Mentaculus42 That's kinda where I was goin w/ my questions about what benefits the Public has gained from all this very expensive Zero Gravity research on the ISS. It's obvious all space agencies involved have their own set of Gov & State funded experiments, and some can't be shared. Just wondering if we can apply what's learned on the ISS to the new commercial space race the world is into right now. The Moon and Mars are on the radar for other countries besides the U.S.. It would be nice for someone to do the research and put together a YT episode on how the ISS has furthered our desire to revisit the Moon and put human footprints on Mars. I'm sure there's more to the story than what I've been seeing on YT. Lots of coverage on Resupply and Crewed missions but not much coverage on what they're doing once they get there. The politics involved in the eventual "decommissioning" of the ISS could be interesting as well.
@@uuzd4s you don’t have to be rude about it, i was just trying to help
i’ve seen people see some pretty wild stuff about rocket launches so forgive me for thinking you got a year wrong
one time i saw someone say SLS was made of wood
Send it to the moon to crash. Many parts can be reusable there.