FSU & CLEMSON UNLEASH FIRESTORM in Response to ACC | Conference Realignment | SEC | BIG10 | BIG 12
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- Опубликовано: 4 апр 2024
- Massive Conference Realignment news after the judge in North Carolina handed out a ruling for FSU and the ACC. Plus, Clemson got PETTY.
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FSU is 100% correct. ACC with multiple National Championships are getting 17% of CFP $ while the Big 12 with none gets 15%. Tells you how bad the ACC negotiates for its members.
It was and is a leadership failure.
Maybe % payout is not tied to championships won? The SEC won 6 titles and the Big 10 2. Why did the Big 10 get the same % as the SEC?
@@mrmonkeysays how many did bama win out of the 6 you mentioned?
No doubt the contract for us, sucks, bit we signed it, TWICE. That won't even make it to the judge's chambers... we want out bc the contract sucks isn't a winnable argument. My car % rate and the car is junk, so I wanna walk away cleanly?
It's about the number of teams that made the CFP,,,SEC & B10 have had way more. FSU has delusions of their own grandeur. FOR THE 1000TH TIME...FSU & CLEMSON ARE STUCK IN THE ACC WHINING NOW B/C DURING SEVERAL ROUNDS OF EXPANSION BY THE SEC & B10 NOBODY WANTED THEM!!!!!
What you rarely ever see anything about is any answer why ESPN demanded an extension in 2021 rather than just renew. Then they refused to renew in 2022, 2023 and now 2024. ACC fans should have grave concerns about whether the ACC will, in fact, renew in ten short months or just walk away.
They didnt ask for an extension, Jim phillips offered it after they didn't renew.
They prefer 1 way traps. League was too dumb to tie their pay to other conferences in the contract, so they could stay competitive.
The S in ESPN does not stand for stupid. They know the “Iron Clad” GOR is a myth, and sooner or later schools would figure it out, and once they did, those with value ( like FSU and Clemson) would not be sticking around until 2036, so why pay the ACC > $30m a year when ESPN can either pay far less or walk away ( especially because they have Texas, Oklahoma and the CBS portion of the SEC contract).
@@CFBAddiction like they had an option?
If it goes to federal court it is going to take years. If a judge decides a case on what college he is a fan of then they should be removed from the bench.
Let’s say it goes to Federal Court what happens? 1: ESPN refuses to pick up the option because of the risk involved. 2: Good news and bad news for the ACC. Good news: They can keep FSU and Clemson past 2025. Bad news: In 2027, they can leave for free because no court will force them to take a worse deal then they already have.
@@davidbrown386 What is the risk to ESPN? They already have a very favorable deal with the ACC.
Look at ACC ratings: There are only two ACC schools in the top 30 in CFB TV ratings: No shock to anyone; FSU and Clemson. The much loved UNC Tar Heels were actually 45th: One spot ahead of that powerhouse school: Rutgers.
@@davidbrown386 So I still dont get the risk. If Clemson and FSU go to the SEC , ESPN still gets them albeit at a high price and if FSU goes to the BIG ESPN still has a great deal with the ACC on par with the Big 12. If ESPN keeps the ACC and FSU has to stay or pay ESPN has an awesome deal.
Florida judge will make things right, ask Disney. ESPN will be out the ACC next year.
👏. After what the ACC and ESPN did to the Big East, an ugly demise is EXACTLY what the ACC deserves. ESPN, as a division of the failed Walt Disney Company is getting theirs.
SEC deserves the same thing for exactly the same reason
@@cupton01 is going to happen thats why FSu needs to stay in the ACC!
TheFatGandalf I agree. Look what the ACC did to the Big East and even farther back look what they did to USC, a founding member of the ACC. Bad Karma is FINALLY catching up to the ACC. The ACC's demise can't come soon enough for me. Makes me question why those three new teams agreed to join the ACC. I guess they figured the ACC was better than nothing. They may find out differently.
Disney is many things, but they are not a failure. First, Disney intends to sale ESPN. The business model for ESPN has come via cable & satellite subscription’s. Now the streaming service wars are done, I expect prices will begin rising. ESPN has gone all in on the SEC, and they need that money they’ve been giving to the ACC, and the ACC Network life span is very very short. I am not sure about ABC’s future existing in or out of Disney’s holdings. Disney is set to begin a Billion & a half $$ dollars investment building new parks & renovating older areas of Disney World. This is expected to bring 10,000’s new permanent jobs in Florida. Gov. DeSantis has negotiated settling some of the issues with Disney. The backlash of people who owned homes in subdivision’s that were part of Disney’s District: Have been loud & extremely unhappy with how the State of Florida @ DeSantis command has dealt in failing to exercise the duties Disney handled without complaints. Disney World is the largest private employer in Florida. DeSantis used Disney for target practice & looked like a fool fighting Mickey Mouse. I said, “I don’t mind suffering a little with DeSantis just too keep him out of the Whitehouse. Yet, I am disappointed with both candidates for President”. I am going to shut up & watch the ACC die.
@@DaninVa-gt9nj could not happen to a better conference.ACC in their minds and only their mind think they are ELITE for some reason. ACC getting what they deserve and going to happen today. Tomorrow it might change.
Luv your show and content sir
Of course we heard up here in B1G country…It’s so quiet we can hear the corn grow!
The good thing about the hundreds of millions of dollars that these schools get for their tv contracts is that it enables them to keep their tuitions so affordable for their students
The NC judge being a UNC fan is probably not helpful to UNC, FSU, or Clemson-especially since that fact is out there.
Im a new sub and so far im enjoying the channel. That being said im kinda shocked youd insinuate a judge might make a ruling based on his collegiate affiliations. Thats a bold statement to drop real quick then just move on.
That judge is smart as hell, and made lawyers for both sides, look like clowns at times. I expect him to be impartial.
@@CFBAddiction Fsu and Clemson are not getting out !
@@CFBAddiction theonly thing Fsu needs to have up there sleaves is money and alot of it!🤪
@@jmath1978you’re not getting out of being stupid either. You have stupid and a lot of it. 🥴🥴
@@CFBAddictionTrust me, fans of the other ACC schools want fsu gone just as much as they want to be gone. They just need to honor the contract they signed and pony up. Clemson hurts a little, but them being primarily a football school I can at least understand the case.
You left one heck of a cliffhanger. I’ll check back later.
Actually, the impression I get from this video is that we don't know just how bad it will get, only that things will continue to get a lot worse. I hear you saying "conflicts of interest" and my brain translates that to "embezzlement."
It feels like it is all rigged. The acc was going through the motions with the one in our favor and the lawyers clearly did not put forth any amount of effort to justify it. Why? Because they know it was a calculated loss to make it seem the whole trial was fair; while the judge knows what he will do. Side with the acc. But the case in Florida will force the federal court to get involved. They will reduce the buyout and ultimately we will get what we want.
Hell, I hope you get what fsu wants. Get the hell out as far as I'm concerned. Then fsu will hit an all time low. You will get your tail whipped a lot on Saturdays at that point. Be very careful what you wish for. You will be ready for another change at that point when you get worn out in the sec or big ten. There will be no savior then.
@@larrybeckelhimer8386 As long as we are paid what we are worth and not pennies on the dollar in the ACC. We are damn near back despite millions behind the SEC and B10 teams. I'm confident we will be back amongst the top teams ,being paid what we are worth!
Oh you're another one who hates the fact that we have 19 ACC championships it only been in the conference since 1992 when Florida State leaves you'll be that shity conference with a bunch of nobodies that you were before Florida State all the money we made you guys Florida state will do good in any conference they'll have their bad years like anybody else but unlike you guys we will win a national championship in any conference we go to Just enjoy your basketball cuz you might as well not even watch football you'll never hear the name national championship and ACC in the same sentence if Florida State and Clemson leave
Ill be curious to see what happens. I think people are overthinking the academics piece at this point. Though Clemson does have a website about becoming AAU. I think the two big nor schools like UNC will care.
If academics was number one, Stanford would be in the Big 10 instead of Oregon. In fact, Oregon does even less research then Oregon State.
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Oregon is an AAU member. Oregon State is not.
Clemson and UNC will join the SEC if and when they leave the ACC. FSU will go B1G once they’re clear.
Is Virginia or Virginia Tech making waves?
TJ- Appreciate the content. Should you be showing The head coaches of two of the schools embattled in this struggle with the ACC? It seems that implies the fight is theirs and while they are part of it they are not driving this. Seems a little unfair to paint them in this light. Keep up the good work in reporting and interpreting developments as they arise! GO NOLES!!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed. I respect your opinion
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You keep mentioning ACC fans, what's an ACC fan?... is that a thing?
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FSU and Clemson just pay the grant of rights and leave. Football has never ran the ACC.
With the ACC NOT having ANY media agreement for almost an entire decade at the end of this contract, how is it possible to put any kind of realistic dollar amount for departure?
I think all of that was calculated in the grant of rights contract. I remember when Florida State begged to come to the ACC it wasn't the other way around. I'm sure in the end a price will be negotiated and they can leave. Where are they going
Maybe they need to win something. It's been a long time
Auburn Fan Here. I don't think FSU or Clemson gets out of the ACC. I personally wouldn't be excited for FSU or Clemson joining the SEC. This is all about eye balls. Easy to say, Clemson does nothing for the SEC in terms of eye balls, and who really wants FSU? The only ACC teams worth saving/salvaging would be North Carolina and Virginia. The SEC only wants those two. The Confederacy would be reborn. Imagine the BIG 10/North vs SEC/South, Fox vs ESPN angle that would be overhyped to nauseam. There has always been that undertone to the Big 10/SEC rivalry. That Rivalry made what those conferences are today.
Dude, wake up. FSU is out and has been out since last August. Clemson and UNC as well. this is the LAST year they are playing in the ACC. It's a done deal man. it's done, sealed and delivered. FSU, Clemson and UNC all going to Big10]
Wow. That's about the MOST ignorant thing I have heard in a while - and that's saying SOMETHING in today's climate. You're basically speaking for the SEC when you say they'd rather ride a Chevette (NC) and a Pinto (VA) than a Camaro (FSU) and a Mustang (Clem.). As they still say about Auburn fans, go enjoy your six-course meal - a roadkill possum and a skunky six-pack of Bud. #youhaveBADeyeballs
@@JorgeDiaz-ly5qp The SEC covets Virginia and North Carolina. Be careful.
Yea you guys should take syracuse instead.
I was at the LSU FSU game last year in Orlando. I have t seen that kind of atmosphere and hype for an FSU game in YEARS. That atmosphere sells tickets and gets views. Today conference realignment is about rivalries, views, and money. Hence there are only three really good programs left to pick up and the SEC will get them.
Do you believe this insanity even comes about if Florida State ended up being in the College Football Playoff? I truly believe FSU getting left out was the spark that lit the powder keg.
Yep
@michaelnewton1332 - The ACC Magnificent Seven was being reported as looking at leaving the conference in May 2023. At this current point in time, two of those seven have stepped up with lawsuits against the ACC. On a national level, the ACC's lack of leadership was made crystal clear with their lack of actions leading up to and lack of reactions to the SNUB. Nothing like showing the world that the ACC members are sacrificial when it benefits espn.
Bro, you can't believe majority of what your saying. The ACC ain't going anywhere. Lol..ACC better settle or the skeletons will be released😂😂😂. I get it. Y'all need content. But people actually believe this crap.
I mean at the time I honestly felt bad for fsu and felt like they should have been in, but let’s be honest, they were 100% saved from being embarrassed on national tv. Instead they were embarrassed in a game nobody cared about or watched…
@@FSU.Seminoles1 the majority of the 7 were doing due diligence on finding out how air tight the gor was. If it wasn’t air tight, fsu and maybe Clemson would already be gone.
I am getting tired of all this mess , about the ACC, clemson and FSU, they signed there names on that contract, so they will stay in the ACC, because they think that another Conference will take them, well that will not happen, because they know you can not trust them.
Dude everyone knew that was gonna get tossed. I want FSU OUT but the BOT talk is all for fan and none of that can be argued in court. We signed a bad contract isn't a good defense in court. Stop the bs
Meh. BOT started the suit. Thats not all talk. There are some good arguments against the ACC. Let it play out. Slow your roll down and chill. Everyone knows this will get settled down the road the only question is at what price tag.
Funny how clempson waited for fsu to take all the heat first.
Bro, I'm digging the whole 1984/big brother/ministry of truth vibes. No seriously.
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I agree the managers of the acc failed miserably. You have Miami, fsu, Clemson and partially nootr damn. These are all football powerhouses, of course any conference ND joins it fails.
Miami has not been a powerhouse in 20+ years and their fanbase is only fair weather fans.
Good grief. This whole comments section needs to chill. The motion to dismiss didn’t win. So what. One party almost always motions to dismiss. It Happens in every case and it rarely wins in valid cases. Discovery hasn’t even started. Social media’s instant gratification timeline will is hopelessly unsuited for court schedules.
NCAA needs to step in as the parent in all these mergers and transitions and squash them all. The SEC started all this mess and if they get much stronger, they (the SEC) may tell the NCAA to go F itself and pull all its conference teams out and start their own NCAA-like organization. Conferences need to be more regional to control cost and create/continue regional rivalries.
NCAA has no authority. The group of teams run the P2 leagues make the calls. The SEC and BIG10 are above the NCAA.
The worst thing the ACC ever did is let fsu in to begin with.
Worst thing the ACC did? 1: Hire Larry Scott and George Kliavkoff. Oops: Swofford and Phillips. 2; Coddle Notre Dame.
@@davidbrown386 bad things, but the worst is inviting fsu. ACC has always been basketball first. Wtf does fsu offer there?
The SEC covets North Carolina and Virginia, not FSU or Clemson. A friend worked at the SEC HQs in Birmingham.
The SEC doesn’t want a B10 school in the middle of SEC country.
Two also ran teams.
@@kogspinz4Meh, having a bunch of ACC schools in SEC country hasn’t affected anything. The B1G would need quite a lot of schools in SEC country to really change anything. One or two schools wouldn’t even register as a pimple. Apples and Oranges.
@@jansonroberts2616 The B10 product is inferior from top to bottom compared to the SEC. The SEC has six teams that have won Naties in 20 years. The B10 won their second national championship in 20 years, which ties them with the B12. Hence, the SEC doesn’t want to open the door for any near peer competitor. If the SEC adds FSU and Clemson, the SEC will be home to 19 of the last 21 national champions.
SEC: We want UNC and UVA.
Big 10: Thank you we will “Settle” for FSU and “Travel Partner” Clemson.
Miami:: Stuck in the ACC & Karma for voting to sue FSU.
ACC can easily have this judge dismissed if they want based on affiliation with UNC.
Are there actual ACC fans?
Mostly trolls of Miami, the Gators or a pathetic ACC school like WF
Fans of ACC teams that have decent basketball programs would be sad to see that tradition go, so in a sense, yes.
The whole ACC - ESPN TV deal has never made any sense to the average member school viewer like myself. When it was announced the ACC was getting better money than the other conferences and the ACC was getting its own premier network like the B1G and SEC. Oh and BTW the ACC Network would not premiere for a few years and ESPN ‘couldn’t’ get cable services to carry the network when it started. My immediate reaction when I heard the deal lasted to 2036 was ‘How many renegotiation opportunities will the competing conferences have between 2016 and 2036?’ I am no rocket scientist but it seemed obvious that there would be several opportunities for other conferences to renegotiate while the ACC had NONE. Now, we have a commissioner who can be a wimp with the networks while he is a hard ass with some members and settles for less on the TV money. WTF? Meanwhile, other schools other than FSU, Clemson and possibly UNC are all good with less too.
Many ACC schools are good with less money then the present. Why? They are afraid of being another OSU and WSU. See Wake Forest, Syracuse and Boston College
The end of the Atlantic Cupcake Conference
ACC conference aint going nowhere until that ridiculously long tv contract ends.
Tell that the judge is is NC fan hurts the argument. Need to recuse himself if that's the case.
Same for the Florida judge.
Couldn't FSU , Clemson and anyone else wanting out argue the gor should only be enfored up to 2027 if they leave before the espn opt in date , saving them money
That is THE NUMBER one thing they should focus ALL their attention on. Throw everything at that extension being a material change and thus required the vote of the members to approve an extension
How about a Dr. Pepper?
I prefer Dr. Seuss
Here's a summary of every video on this channel: FSU is good, the ACC is bad, and FSU is going to get everything it wants and nothing that it doesn't want.
We cover the biggest news. When conference realignment stops being the biggest news, we will move on.
Well if the shoe fits "FSU is good, the ACC is bad" LOL
@@CFBAddiction I'm not criticizing the repetitiveness, but rather the one-sidedness. I'm not an ACC fan, but I don't think FSU and its motivations are pure as the wind-driven snow.
@@CFBAddiction you are a total homer dude. Still like THIS channel though. In the other channel you are even more of a homer (somehow that is possible).
FSU is what is moving everything in college football today. Like it or not, we are leading the way into the future. Super conferences are coming. Go Noles
Bombshells! Epic ….epic Bombshells!
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Gobble them up SEC! MIZ
ND, FSU, UNC, and Clemson are going to the B1G to maximize their revenue for sports AND academics. Then the B1G members will be earning double what the SEC earns and the B1G will be able to pay their players twice as much.
@@roris5882 IM sure ESPN wont mind FSU, UNC, and Clemson going to FOX.. BJT even if they do, we will tale V tech and NC state.. Its all about the markets and viewership
@@roris5882ND will remain independent, UNC from what I understand is leaning strongly towards the SEC and Clemson doesn't have the academics for the BIG. Unless they overlook that for ratings.
@@ChrisSadowski-pp1np Money talks and the B1G has more because they negotiated a superior TV contract and they have a academic influence over the AAU. Plus ND would double their TV revenue in the B1G because they already have an escalator clause in the B1G's new TV contract to add them to drive their revenue through the roof.
@@roris5882 money doesn't talk for them cause they have over 20 billion in an endowment. As long as they have access to the playoffs (they do) and can put a schedule together they will remain independent. They value independence more than BIG fans realize. It's part of their identity. It's ok to dream though, as long as you understand it's a dream.
Don't let the $572M door hit you in the ass!
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"Big Ten Country" is everywhere.
Thanks for good coverage!! I can’t stand the click bait artists of John Kurtz and Andy Staples!! The two worst in the industry. They are both like the creepy uncle at Thanksgiving!!
Thank you!
Ah, sports...the man's soap opera.
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Honest question. Can FSU taking a flamethrower to the ACC give the P2 conferences pause in wanting to partner with them in the future? Where is that line?
A bad reputation did not stop the SEC from taking Texas and the Big 10 from taking USC.
Accusations without evidence. It's the Florida State, and American way..
Where are all the fans who complained when MD left the ACC?
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As a founding member of the ACC, the Clemson case carries significant weight. With the exception of FSUs Bobby Bowden Years (which were unbelievable), the numbers speak for themselves. Clemson is the big ticket in the conference. Go Tigers!
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Sounds like you got some tiger blood in you this morning
Sorry man. The Noles have carried the ACC, even in their down years, their viewership rating still beat Clemson.
Huh? In the 31 years that FSU has been in the ACC, they have won the championship 16 times. That is more than the rest of the conference put together have.
If you say Johnsettin7234, Not so sure the word " significant" applies but if that's how you feel .
ACC titles for Clemson: 21 in 70 years
ACC titles for FSU : 19 in 30 ish years
I wish FSU would never have joined the ACC they begged to come. The SEC would not take them. They would be lucky to join the Big 12
You do realize FSU lost on every count except the fiduciary damages in court. This still has a long way to go, and in NC court.
I do. Acc is screwed
Not seeing how FSU and/or Clemson add more overall value to the SEC and BIG once the $ is divvied among current members. They don’t increase the payouts per school. That’s the problem. I guess unless they’re willing to take significantly less than the other members
The only way they would add real value is if the SEC kicks out their bottom two teams to add two better teams.
TV ratings for FSU vs OSU,MICH,Oregon and USC would be thru the roof.
Yup, Fox, CBS, and NBC are willing to pay a premium for the B1G to expand their national footprint into Florida and the South, the SEC's backyard. Plus the B1G already generates more for sports AND academics because they negotiated a superior TV contract and have heavy influence over the AAU's Board.
Here is why FSU is important for the Big 10, Getting BTN on in Florida is huge for Fox. Plus look at FSU TV ratings and the Florida recruiting area.
FSU/Clemson have been Top 10-20 in viewership averages for years. This past year only 3 SEC teams higher than FSU (Bama,UGA,Tennessee). FSU is currently constructing major changes to their stadium/facilities and are consistently among the Top programs with what they invest in their athletics. All of which adds value when you can market the matchups they would have between programs of either conferences the interest those matchups would draw.
The worst thing for FSU and friends is for it to go to Federal Court. I highly doubt the Federal judiciary is gonna want to set the precedent of people signing contracts then suing to get out of them later.
Why, people do it all the time? Especially when 1 member of a contract isn't meeting their required obligations and the ACC has violated their fiduciary duties as a conference. They care more about holding their valuable members hostage to appease their bottom feeders and their illegal backdoor agreements are getting exposed.
It's about the ACC not fulfilling a lot of clauses in their contract. Contracts are broken every day , have you been hiding under a rock?
The precedent they would not want to set is making multiple universities remain locked in a contract with an organization that does not operate in the interests of those universities(the sole reason for the existence of the organization). The government makes money off of universities and are also invested in their success and these are institutions that benefit all of the US in many ways. I would not see the Fed courts siding with anyone other than the schools in the matter.
Worst thing that could happen? Swofford and Phillips facing Cross Examination after more damaging documents come out in Discovery.
@@JackpotJ Yup, the courts have an obligation to protect public institutions from the ACC's corruption and illegal activities.
North Carolina is not going anywhere with your ignorant knowledge of the ACC.
Might want to tell their Trustee chair that 🤣
@@CFBAddiction the UNC board disagrees with you....more then that the NC politicians do as well
Can you just get to the point.
IMO, all of this is a temporary battle with the final outcome and how college football looks TBD. I wouldn't be surprised to see the SEC and Big Ten get together and exclusively schedule most games between these two conferences. The SEC is ahead of the game in some ways by getting rid of divisions. For example, if FSU goes to the Big Ten, as rumors say they will, the Big Ten will need another team to keep the divisions balanced, whereas the SEC has numbers going from one to 14, so adding one or more teams isn't an issue. OTOH, it doesn't look like the SEC is looking to expand right now, at least nothing has been said publicly - who knows what is going on behind closed doors.
BIG doesnt have divisions anymore
@@badgerbournemouthfan5408 Ah, then they have done the same thing as the SEC, in anticipation of the coming chaos.
ACC has always been a second rate football conference. FSU joined 30 years ago because it was the path of least resistance. Let them cry about their plight
Remind me to never enter in to a contract with an FSU fan and expect them to honor their end of the bargain.
Contracts are made to be broken. Especially when one side gets hosed.
The ACC put the con in contract
Yawn
I guess you are too young to remember that Auburn University twice canceled contracts to play FSU in a home and home series. Good luck on your G.E.D exam.
@dwzaphod You haven't got a clue what you're talking about. Say you (as a fan of wherever bum team you like) agree to sell me (fsu fan) a house for $ 10.5 million. We go through the inspection, and everything is what we agreed on. Now after I close on the house & get the keys. I walk out back the in-ground pool is gone. The home theater & seats are gone. All the cabinets have been removed. All the appliances are gone. Now you tell me, are we(fsu fan) supposed to just take it or are we supposed to sue since you don't want to explain.
You’re definitely the Telenovela of FSU propaganda
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SEC IS NOT TAKING ANY MORE TEAMS 🏈 THE BIG 12 DOSES NOT NEED ANY TEAMS THE BIG 10 WILL TAKE 2 ONLY. THE ACC DIES 💀
That’s the furthest from what is going to happen. They all want the most number of quality brands for the most viewed matchups. They want more schools and more conference games. Right now it is 8-9 conference matchups a week. Get to 24 teams each and it’s 12. They want those 4 million plus viewer games. I would almost bet a jump from 16-18 teams up to 24 teams would come close to doubling viewers on the networks. It doesn’t matter if the channel is playing half the games regionally. It matters that the commercials are aired nationally to 50 million people every weekend instead of 20-25 million.
Where did you hear this. This is totally false. SEC has already had talks with several teams behind the scenes.
I don't see the ACC collapsing if only two schools leave. It will be a second tier brand for sure, but a total collapse will require a lot more teams leaving.
@@gregoryjasonsmith5732 History is a great teacher. You evidently missed what happened to the PAC12.
What happened with the PAC is most of the schools had landing spots. With the ACC most do not. Plus no one had to pay to leave the PAC ( although they settled with OSU and WSU). To leave the ACC schools will likely have to pay $100m ( unless the ACC gets greedy and stalls and loses in court).
Butt picking finger sniffing fans out there see ya.
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