Cube world was almost one of the greatest games ever made. I played back in 2014 and when it finally launched it was a mix of being satisfied and heartbroken at the same time. RIP to one of the greats.
I have Cube World sice a lot of time in my steam libery und give it again a chance now. When you understand how to came through the early game, first reagen can be really fun. Unless there are some things i dont like. At first i would say the plus gear help you more then the Artefacts. On one side the Game dont want that go get to strong, on another side, you have a very easy start with some plusa gear. It would be better when the lvl what you get from your Artefacts (+1 each artefact) would increase your base stats. Now your "level" is not really a level, its only how many Artefacts you have. If you craft something you need a lot of Reources, with every level more and more, and there is no possibility to farm that rercources more effektiv, so crafting is not really helpfull for lategame, becouse you need a lot of recources AND also money to buy the gems. With a lot of luck you will find gems for Endgame gear, so you can craft a good Weapon, but at all its much more suimple to buy your gear in the shop. I would like when the gems are cheaper and maybe crafted Gear stronger. (its already a little stronger) also you find different recources, thats bad for warriors that can only craft from iron.Classes that craft wepons from iron or wood and armor from cotton, can craft more gear. Next problem is Drops. You get very very much gear for the other classes, that feels not good when you play solo. Also when you sell GEar, the money you get is very very little. 7 Gold for legandary items is not eneugh i would say. Also the obvious pro blems everybody know who played the beta. Very strong mages and boomerang enemys, depending on you class sometimes you cant kill a boss when it is a mage. Imn not sure but i think after an ingame week it spawns another Boss, unless its a Problem.
@@slevinchannel7589 Im wondering why he doesn't sell the ownership of the game, He doesn't seem interested in it anymore, Maybe due to personal stuff but he could make alot by doing so, im sure there's some company out there that could make it what it once was and is supposed to be.
@@ZuNk Cube World Omega is an answer to that. Wollay's still working on the game. Also considering how companies nowadays are often losing sight of quality, selling Cube World is likely dooming it to a fate worse than death. Granted, Wollay has disabled comments, but considering the hate he's understandably STILL getting over the complicated mess that happened prior, i'm not surprised. Time will tell for Omega, but it seems like it has the foundation of what made Alpha good. The return of Skill Trees and Experience is a important piece too.
There is a lot that happened before he went into pretty much exile mode. In the Alpha there was a lot of us who loved the game, but there was also those who complained for just the same reasons we loved it, showing hate for it. Example having a randomized world, they complained that you never knew where anything was, or where to go, where high level enemies were compared to low level enemies, where towns were, if there were any, so on so forth. Sadly it was their voices that triggered his perfectionist side, he got tunnel vision, and to remove all the hate, he went silent, went offline to work on the game, however, with the nagging in the back of his head with all the negatives, he overhauled the game, to fix the game for the complainers. For a perfectionist a negative voice is heard a 100 times louder, than a thousand positive voices. All it takes, is that doubt to set in, and only flaws will be seen.
@@itsraventm Therefore DDOS was fixed eventually, which was long ago. He could've gone and said something, therefore he didn't, so I don't think that DDOS was the reason that done it, lol
Unfortunately this applies even now with tons of intense accusation and hate thrown at Wollay. There are those that want to be cautiously optimistic, and then the vast majority that only need surface level reasons to start to be angry.
@@otamatonefan8996 It's honestly sad that on his youtube channel where he uploads his dev logs he has to disable comments because of the straight up shit he gets thrown on there...
While the audience shares some degree of the blame, I think it's gross you'd give them most the blame. The developer was the one making the game. He had the vision. It was his job to make the game. The audience almost never knows what the want. Good artists know when to ignore the audience and when to listen. The developer will always share most the blame for design decisions because they're really the one who has any control over them.
For what it's worth, WollayFX released two videos recently on his RUclips channel concerning Cube World. It's difficult to see where he might be going from these two videos, but he has not abandoned the game.
damn this content deserves more recognition, i didnt even realize until after i watched it that you werent some famous content creator. informative videos that are entertaining are amazing, and you're great at making them.
You have a great way of shining a light on these design topics. Always very insightful. Also I think the banana suit was the single best investment you made in your life.
If you guys haven't heard of it, Veloren is an open-world procedurally generated MMORPG done in the style of Cube World (and other games of the sort. I think it both nails the aesthetics of Cube World and does some of the game mechanics well. It's also open-source which is a plus since it's not just done by one guy.
I absolutely love Cube World and has been a dream, I hope he doesn’t give up on developing on the game because it can always be better than it was. Veloren is a great game, but cube world just has a certain style and animation that makes me drawn more to cube world than Veloren. Great Video!
It's clear as day that the ENTIRE situation completely overwhelmed Wollay in every single possible ways... The worst mistake he ever did imo, and weirdly enough, was releasing the alpha in the first place... The lad shot himself in the foot the moment he released that alpha. he also just NEVER was meant to gather as much attention as he did, the man is clearly NOT built for that and I know from experience that I too would've messed up as much as he did, if not WAY more than he did... We introverts just aren't made for these types of situations, we just aren't. Which might be why I'm simply unable get mad at the dude... Because I know for a fact that I would've been as bad if not worse, so talking shit would be hypocritical as all get out on my part. Though, the whole Region-based progression system CAN work, we've seen it with mods like Cubegression, which simply improves the new system in a way that makes it actually fun for a lot more people.
The second worst mistake was not making a team, or at least a community manager. That would have solves so... _SO_ many issues by acting as a filter for Wol_lay.
The idea is fundamentally flawed since it contradicts the idea of character progression, not to mention it doesn'tmake any sense outside a mechanical view. Also, being introverted is not an excuse for bad game design, maybe for communication issues, which he had, but not for not listening to players and running away with the money. Lmao, imagine sperging out just because of a DDOS attack.
Uh…. Idk about the introvert comment. Being introvert does NOT mean not being able to handle these types of situations. Wollay probably has other issues. Issues that I don’t know about nor are they my business. I believe it could be social anxiety (which isn’t the same as introversion despite what some people might think)
@@asgoritolinasgoritolino7708 > The idea is fundamentally flawed since it contradicts the idea of character progression, not to mention it doesn'tmake any sense outside a mechanical view. That’s not true. Roguelikes do just that, and yet still offer some form of progression most of the time. Having a game not shy away from taking items away from the player allows it to feature very overpowered items/combinations, and often times give those to player much earlier in the game than a traditional RPG would, and still be a lot of fun to play. I think in the case of Cube World, the game should limit its region locks to items that are deemed overpowered, while still having items that aren’t. I think this way you would get the best of both worlds.
Nah you are capping, you are not even an introvert. True introverts never give a damn but other people opinions and only care about for themselves. And also actual introverts never going to declare themselves as an introvert online. So stop pretending ffs
I loved playing the alpha for precisely the reasons you outlined. I thought that it was flawed, but overall a great experience that showed a lot of potential. I loved how you could explore, find caves for finding ore deposits, kill bosses, acquire or craft gear, *upgrade* gear in a really fun and creative way etc.. I can't count how many times I ran towards a dungeon/boss that was marked on the map and got side-tracked over and over because I saw an interesting place to go along the way. Of course it wasn't anywhere near perfect. One thing that I didn't like was how I had to choose between upgrading my class skills or acquiring movement skills like climbing, swimming, hanggliding etc., but that was a minor complaint that I figured would be an easy fix. Same with the issue of pets never catching up to the player's level and always ending up underleveled. I only played the release for a bit over an hour, but I simply couldn't stand continuing to play. It just was a chore to fight anything at the beginning and the prospect that crossing a border to another region would completely set me back to that very point took away all my motivation to keep playing. If I had completed one region, I pretty much would have seen all that the game has to offer aside from a few minor things. Yet, despite the fact that everything you need is crammed into one region, the game feels directionless now. The reason is simple: Cube World is no longer an open world game where I can choose my own direction. As such, the game itself must supply that direction, but Cube World's release simply didn't do that. I felt more lost in a single region of Cube World's release than the entire world I played in the alpha.
Very well put! I used to get sidetracked so much in the Alpha, like you said; it was so hard to get from point A to point B without getting distracted by all the fun things you could find!
Thanks! Yeah I was super into it back when it dropped. It's a shame what became of the final version but I've heard whispers that Wollay might be working on fixing some things
Cube World sequel announced with comments turned off. I'm hoping he takes feedback and it doesn't send him into a spiral from what I understand happened the first time around. Maybe just going with his gut this time will bring it closer to the Alpha. I just hope its free for those that bought Cube World originally
I'm a bit late to the party, but have you heard of Veloren? It is a multiplayer voxel RPG written in Rust. Inspired by games such as Cube World, Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Dwarf Fortress and Minecraft, currently in pre Alpha made by 20 devs (and the community at large) trying to recreate the lost magic of Alpha Cube World, the game it's free, open source and it's pretty fun; I would highly recomend it to you. Keep up the good work!
I'm still surprised no other dev hasnt capitalized on the downfall that was CWs launch. Apparently wollay is still working on CW from what ppl in the CW discord say.
Fans started an open source project some years back called "Veloren". The progress made thus far is incredible, it is a genuinely good game already. And it'll only get better as more time passes. You can definetely easily lose yourself in it. The only thing that's probably on the tougher side is starting out, if you haven't watched / read a guide on how to get started. Also the caves are mental, genuinely at times more impressive than the minecraft caves update. There are mutliple cave biomes, different height means different ores and enemies and the game is so visually so pleasing.
@@tormint5294 i tried getting into Veloren a couple times, i dont know, it just doesnt have the charm that cube world has for me. The world feels bland, the towns are always dead from either mobs or other players. and since everything is just shown on the map theres no real sense of exploration of what you might find, its a very clear progression system. Maybe ill try it again in another year or so to see where its at
@@BasegFarmer that's fair. I def recommend giving it a try sometime again, may that be this version or a future one. This version def is a lot more polished than it was previously. Though skill trees for most classes still don't have their revamps but combat overall feels and looks a lot better now. Towns aren't dead anymore, on the public server there are lots of players, sometimes you'll meet one by coincidence while traveling and spontaneously party up. There are various structures scattered across the lands, bosses and caves. And the seemingly infinite view distance using forbidden technology is beautiful and adds to the sense of adventure. I had a similar impression as you with an earlier version but this current one genuinely really impressed me. Starting out feels very different than cube world, because veloren seems to initially put more focus on crafting equipment and gear but once you're in the gameplay loop of grinding towards better gear and through bosses, dungeons or caves, I've noticed that they managed to capture a part of what made cube world so good. Very excited to see how it'll continue developing.
Cube World Omega was recently shown a bit btw. Wollay's going back to the foundations of what made Alpha good, skill trees and experience included. Granted, Wollay has disabled comments, but considering the hate he's understandably STILL getting over the complicated mess that happened prior, i'm not surprised. Time will tell for Omega.
I hope with the new Cube World Omega we will get procedural generated maps back and unexplored maps (fog of war). And leveling of course (but that is already confirmed for omega). I personally had fun with the new Cube World too, but as you said, after a while you miss the exploring part. On the other side you can progress faster, because you can barely see any structures on map when you zoom on map. Thank you for this video :)
I think it will, Ive seen some of the devlogs and it looks a lot more like the Alpha version than the one he released, idk if he said anything about removing the region locking things though, we will have to see
Most of the problem with Wollay's process is that he told us about things that he was adding but he never told us about this in particular, in fact he scratched a lot of the things he told us.
I'm sure somebody has said it already but just in case, Alpha Cube World scales the firther away you get from your initial spawn. This includes into just the outer regions of the starting zone although not by much, the game will get significantly easier if you backtrack towards your starting zone, while the game will ramp if you just walk in a straight line away from spawn for a few zones. The idea is you pick a direction and just explore that way for hours slowly getting more powerful and the world does around you as well until you feel like making a new character and starting again. If the game gets too hard, move back towards spawn a zone or two. If the game is too easy, skip a zone or two away from spawn and I'll pick up
You make some good points about the differences and how the final version isn't perfect, but it doesn't sound like you finished the first region in the final game. The region locking isn't nearly as bad as people complain about it's really an anti-power creep mechanic that can be largely mitigated. The game gets repetitive after a while because the loop and the quests begin to get repetitive, but it's actually not a bad game on its own.
"This game has always been synonymous with potential. And I hate to see that potential go to waste" well you just summed up how 11 year old me felt at the time and made me become the game designer I'm now
I don't care if the game is bad or not. I waited 5 or 6 years for its release and finally something I had been waiting for came out. Now I am one of the people hoping that it will be updated and be the best game ever since the successor. In my opinion, Wollay was doing very well in the project when he disappeared in 2017, you know, when on twitter in one of his developments on July 2, 2017 he launched the flute and the harp. I think that everything below that he was developing was on the right track
For me, a perfect Cube World would compare it to Veloren. Which is a game based on Cube World and other types like it. I saw this game in a gameplay and apart from being very expansive it was quite good. It has its errors and glitches, but little by little those who work there fix it and I think that this game has a future as a dream Cube World
The thing most telling about the region lock not being testest before hand, but being very thought throught is: He put a lot of effort into weapon levels, and plus weapons and how players can slowy progress more and more the more they play and need to be reset less and less... HOWEVER, when you have a freaking boat and you try to say over a freaking ocean IT WILL DISAPPEAR AS SOON AS YOU START!!!! You can't use boats to cross the one thing you need a boat for??!?!? Always play test the game yourself whenever you add/change a feature, not just that feature the whole game. If he had done that he would have left it in that state at release and it would at least have left boats and hand gliders out of the region lock.
It’s too bad the game ended up the way it did. I remember watching videos about it back in the day, and really wanted to play it. It’s weird the game took this direction because Wollay had a bunch of Twitter updates that showed off new bioms, procedurally generated quests, arenas you could fight in, and other cool stuff. When I heard that it was coming to Steam imagine my excitement that I’d be able to finally play this amazing game, and it would be so much better than when it was first revealed. Luckily I watched a bunch of reviews talking about how the game didn’t live up to the alpha, and the weird changes. I’d be willing to buy the game if these issues got fixed. I can definitely understand why so many people were disappointed by these changes. I definitely am, and that’s why I haven’t purchased it yet. That being said the people harassing him were definitely in the wrong. Luckily in the meantime there’s this open source game called Veloren that’s basically the alpha of Cube World but with a lot more stuff. Great video!
In the steam release you have all skills from the get-go it's just that they're bound to different keys than the 1,2,3 we were used to. Youd have to open the controls in the settings to figure that out tho. That's also prob the reason you had such difficulty starting out, because you didn't use any skills. Youre right tho, the scaling is fucked And there are items that keep their stats in neighboring zones (+ gear) but they're pretty rare.
I know the beta gets alot of slack, i was in that opinion before, I think i've found a way to still enjoy this game, cuz all there theres ALOT it messes up, there is also alot it does right too or at least does differently. I like the whole idea of navigation: learning what certain landmarks may represent, each different themed region coming with it's own mapping challenges, like forest is easiest with clearer landmarks more hearts n such. while lava lands is harder with no bushes, hearts, and harder to distinguish landmarks, water replaced with lava, but easier to spot shrines. snowlands having hard to spot shrines and other locations, freezing cold water, but plenty of berries and hearts. The combat seemed to be more fleshed out, I was surprised and impressed by the warrior class's effectiveness once you learn how to use it better, i did great with guardian class and even enjoy, although im a scout-main. And sometimes there are unique challenges to overcome and work around, there certainly more to do in the beta as the world is full of quests and areas(albeit locked behind restrictive levels) But with some skill you can defeat foes at least 1-star higher then yours with the right strats. I thank wollay's intensions were to make every next region you go to feel like an objectively higher level area no matter the gear(although it fails at that with showing the star system) I've learned. and it has its issues, In my opinion my worst issues, are the bullshit boss movesets, sometimes i get one-shotted because an epic beam-mage has smash and fire missles; which are pretty much one-shot attacks they can through out at anytime, and beam mages are have pretty much unavoidable high dps attacks and are TOO present in this game. And sometimes the game through higher level enemies in the middles of lower level quest making things tedious, (Although I've found creative work arounds to dealing with those issues). And there's the common stuff, taking away travel items each region, resetting your gear, The gear progress can be JANK AF The game to me kinda feels more like a "randomizer" game, each region is like a new session. When i see it in that lense, i can enjoy it more. I'm less focused on "progression" and more focused on just the "journey of adventuring", and combat in general. I pretend that each new region is just a new place higher level area, But the game also boats alot of conveniences, like instant(although somewhat limited) warp travel, sped up crafting, dropping that messy "power system", fixing some small jank the alpha had. The overworld in the beta feels more mundane, But i think that was intentional because it allows the more significant quest areas to be more visible and stand out while mapping. I think both versions have their pros and cons, and are enjoyable in their own ways, you could say beta is just a different game. In some of my experience, I've i remember taking down a totally bullshit boss with a good strat that involved my scout luring them outside of their tower, using his quicksand trap to keep the boss far enough away to avoid them insta-killing me with Smash, while my pet takes the aggro, and avoiding their beams by hiding behind places objects, like a hill or pillar, then kicking them to K.O and get free hits. Then this time where all the villages in the lavalands seemed to be petrified(meaning no shopping or fast travel) so I went to a recent forest region to farm some wood and hearts, ands other materials to craft my starter gear. Then encountering an 4-star enemy who was guarding the 2-star objective of a "destroy slime pods" quest, So i would K.O the 4-star while my pet aggros them, and would focus solely on damaging the pod to complete the quest. Those some moments where i felt very unstoppable for overcoming such unique and (ill be honest) frustrating RNG-based challenges. Don't get me wrong, I'm not dissing the alpha or anything. Because the alpha gave the player freedom to take on any enemy they wanted without a strict star-level system, with permanent weapons they get to keep and modify with voxel upgrades n such. Permanent travel items, and actually meaningful stat upgrades. And the mystery in the world map. But it also kind hits a stagnant point, once i got my ranger to level 80 i felt nothing to really strive towards escape maybe trying out every region theme in the game. If you'd ask me, I would like for them to bring back to elemental cubes upgrades. fire for damage ,water for hp absorb, ice for slowing, wind for haste up. I saw the leveling system making a return, so you can take on higher level enemies without their resistance stat making them temporarily invisible from lower level attacks. I get region-locked key-items, but NO MORE region-locked travelling items. For the map, im done for anything honestly, alpha had good mystery and natural generations, while Beta adds a level of navigational skills with its landmarks despite the unfortunate design of the intermediate overworld. Those are just my thoughts, overall cube world has been such an impactful game to me, has got me through hard times in the alpha, and today its still getting through a particularly rough patch of my life in the beta, and giving me that adventure fox i need in my life. The beta is not a perfect game, but still good enough, and is just different then the alpha.
Hopefully he nails it this time! The new version looks fantastic I just hope he listens the all the feedback but in a positive way and actually goes in the direction of the alpha as he's saying he wants to ^^
I think Region Lock should be a gamemode if u wanna do more hardcore run or see how many region u could dominate but if you wanna play the normal quest leveling mode then you should be able to go back to that with a simple setting.
Man when I saw this first come out, I was so hyped. I knew it would be a great game especially as it wasnt very much to play for me during that time. I also realized that the developer didnt reach out for help, I hope he continues or someone makes a game that is like this.
okay so some of the very start of this video is a bit misleading, the world is technically the same for everyone, but it's absurdly massive and you spawn in a random place every time you start
in the beta it felt like i was either garbage or op and randomly getting a really good weapon just felt undeserved and made every enemy too easy all of a sudden
I like to think for the past three years, he has been working on this game based on the criticism he received. I mean, he clearly isn't known for being active on socials so... Who's to say in the future we'll get a random update from him? Probably not... But one can hope.
Interesting story, I didn't know the game well. Regardless, for my part I'd come to a slightly different conclusion. Listen to players' feedback _if_ you already showed them the game, and preferably if the game is pretty much finished. Otherwise they might be disappointed. Since I didn't play it, I can't tell if it would have been better received if it came out directly in this state, but that's a definite possibility. Making people play your game is important at the final development stage for testing purposes, but many succesful devs have argued that listening to feedbacks from random players is a terrible idea. I understand that sometimes there's no way around it though, such as early access games. But we should keep in mind that most players think they know what's good for them, and yet apparently they don't. x)
You raise a good point: not everyone's feedback will be constructive or worth making adjustments for. Wollay's case is indeed different from a normal game because he released it as an alpha, so everyone was subjected to the standards left by that version. Given that he intended on changing so much in the final release, I feel like if he had ran an earlier beta test, he could've made adjustments accordingly. The beta test that he DID run was like a week before release, not enough time to make major design changes.
@@hybridplays1088 I see. So players had a very long time to play the alpha, but almost no time on the beta. I can understand why it's problematic. People had a lot to say, and thus were even more frustrated by the situation.
You're *completely* missing what actually happened. He'd been posting stuff in the community, and getting feedback, and talking to people. And people convinced him to release an Alpha, but he put it behind a preorder of the game for 10$. A bunch of people understood it was 10$ now for the game when it comes out, but for now it was just an early-access Alpha. But a bunch of people did *NOT* understand that, and immediately started harassing him and bullying him for "putting out" and unfinished game, forcing credit card transaction reversals claiming it was a scam, and generally, well, being The Internet. That's why he locked down and became a recluse after that first Alpha came out. And, fortunately, he seems to have gone back to working on the game as it was in the Alpha, which he's calling the Omega version.
Ah I see, I didn't realize that he was originally pressured to release something back then. Thanks for the extra info! I've been keeping up with his posts about Omega, everything about it is looking promising so far!
@@hybridplays1088 I remember finding the bug where you could teleport downwards while on a platform, so if you remember someone reporting that bug, it was probably me.
For a game about hunting, I can imagine it probably makes more sense to start off with a completed map 😅 but for something like Cube World....huge disappointment. But maybe CW Omega will bring back the original map screen!
Cant wait for cube world omega thats being developed however hes still keeping silent about it except for a few posts but he doesnt allow replys on his posts and the only have to seem to get a response is via email
While I do think everybody took the criticizing of Wollay way too far, I disagree that he is free of criticism. Taking down alpha branches, working in total silent, ect ect. Everything stems from a lack of communication with the playerbase and that has yet to change. Its tragic because as an alpha player from the month it was released I was always so excited to see where it would go, but it ended up becoming a lesson in game design. It really is tragic.
he announced working on Cubeworld 2 but as we've seen before you never know what will actually come out at some point Wollay seems to have some kind of crippling perfectionism. if it's not perfect the first time he just starts over and all the teasers he made are for a version he abandoned
What I find strange is that you compare Cube World's old map design to Skyrim, when Skyrim's map system is identical to Cube World's. Both are fully uncovered from the start, but particular structures and areas within regions aren't discovered. I fail to see why Skyrim is worth praising and Cube World is worth scorning when the way they operate is exactly identical.
I don't know. I bought the alpha and was incredibly underwhelmed. I never bothered with it again once it seemed like it was abandoned. It doesn't really surprise me the game turned into this. It felt like developer didn't have a great grasp of how to make the game interesting. The only impressive stuff to me was the world generation and the graphics. It sucks the game never lived up to the hype. I feel like with a better dev it could have really shined.
@@hybridplays1088 there is a game on steam call that i know is wierd but as far i check have the fell of cube world but more like a mmo iam thinking about buying. i was just asking if you knew about it or not
Woah that shirt makes you look fucking shredded dude haha is it just me I mean what a big buff hottie Amazing video though! I felt the same when playing it the same time
He changed the game for the worse in 2017, coincidentally 1 month after breath of the wild came out. i think he was inspired by that game and decided to destroy cube world
Sadly I think this guy is waaay too neurotic to handle this project even close to properly. Every single critique or event that happens sends him into Vietnam flashback mode. Honestly, if I were him, and I had squandered this much potential so badly (not just for a great game idea, but the potential money and career prospects flushed down the toilet), I’d be kicking myself for the rest of my life.
It's a bummer all around. Somewhere there's an alternate universe where he kept the final version closer to the alpha, and I think that universe also has flying cars...
Great Video, but i do have to critique your points about wollay. While i totally get not wanting to claim to know his intentions (like the people saying he just made off with the money and released the "Full" version as a cashgrab) i also think you take it too far into the other direction with talking about how the critics he received impacted him. For all we know he worked his ass of for 6 years, or just spent his millions of euros made with the alpha until he didn't have enough left and wanted to earn some more.
This is true; who knows how he spent the time. It was clear based on his tweets throughout the years that he was still working on the project throughout that time, at least to some degree. I do believe that he's passionate about this project, but whether or not he'll return to fix things is a different story...
@@hybridplays1088 I may also bring into play the possibility he just isn't a game designer and doesn't know all too much about it. He is after all a doctor of computer science. This isn't to say he CAN'T be, but it implies him to be more of the "technical" guy. Not everyone is a god who can do great gameplay and programming and music.
I never understood the hype about this game. the game that captured the spirit of exploration.. that's Tomb Raider 1, not an overly simplified pixel game ;)
Wollay had feedback and plenty. He wasn't stuck in some vacuum. Wollay just couldn't handle any criticism. This is his game, this how he wants you to play, how dare you criticize it. This is why he disappears all the time. Wouldn't you personally listen to reviews and make changes accordingly? He basically abandoned the game on steam with little to no updates. Here comes the criticism so he disappeared, now he's making another game for the hype train to start all over. I guess the money ran out. Why else abandon your game completely, just to start a whole new game and charge again?
Cube World was never supposed to take off in the way that it did after it's original release way back. The game was always supposed to be a small project that both Wollay and his wife worked on for fun. No one gets to dictate what the game will or should be except for them. Imagine thinking that your opinion matters on a couples project, the entitlement lol.
Cube world was almost one of the greatest games ever made. I played back in 2014 and when it finally launched it was a mix of being satisfied and heartbroken at the same time. RIP to one of the greats.
I have Cube World sice a lot of time in my steam libery und give it again a chance now. When you understand how to came through the early game, first reagen can be really fun. Unless there are some things i dont like.
At first i would say the plus gear help you more then the Artefacts. On one side the Game dont want that go get to strong, on another side, you have a very easy start with some plusa gear. It would be better when the lvl what you get from your Artefacts (+1 each artefact) would increase your base stats. Now your "level" is not really a level, its only how many Artefacts you have.
If you craft something you need a lot of Reources, with every level more and more, and there is no possibility to farm that rercources more effektiv, so crafting is not really helpfull for lategame, becouse you need a lot of recources AND also money to buy the gems. With a lot of luck you will find gems for Endgame gear, so you can craft a good Weapon, but at all its much more suimple to buy your gear in the shop. I would like when the gems are cheaper and maybe crafted Gear stronger. (its already a little stronger) also you find different recources, thats bad for warriors that can only craft from iron.Classes that craft wepons from iron or wood and armor from cotton, can craft more gear.
Next problem is Drops. You get very very much gear for the other classes, that feels not good when you play solo. Also when you sell GEar, the money you get is very very little. 7 Gold for legandary items is not eneugh i would say.
Also the obvious pro blems everybody know who played the beta. Very strong mages and boomerang enemys, depending on you class sometimes you cant kill a boss when it is a mage. Imn not sure but i think after an ingame week it spawns another Boss, unless its a Problem.
@@slevinchannel7589 Im wondering why he doesn't sell the ownership of the game, He doesn't seem interested in it anymore, Maybe due to personal stuff but he could make alot by doing so, im sure there's some company out there that could make it what it once was and is supposed to be.
@@ZuNk Cube World Omega is an answer to that.
Wollay's still working on the game.
Also considering how companies nowadays are often losing sight of quality, selling Cube World is likely dooming it to a fate worse than death.
Granted, Wollay has disabled comments, but considering the hate he's understandably STILL getting over the complicated mess that happened prior, i'm not surprised.
Time will tell for Omega, but it seems like it has the foundation of what made Alpha good. The return of Skill Trees and Experience is a important piece too.
@@slevinchannel7589 bro says hytale great game how do you know that you cant even play it
@@slevinchannel7589 no question bro
There is a lot that happened before he went into pretty much exile mode.
In the Alpha there was a lot of us who loved the game, but there was also those who complained for just the same reasons we loved it, showing hate for it.
Example having a randomized world, they complained that you never knew where anything was, or where to go, where high level enemies were compared to low level enemies, where towns were, if there were any, so on so forth.
Sadly it was their voices that triggered his perfectionist side, he got tunnel vision, and to remove all the hate, he went silent, went offline to work on the game, however, with the nagging in the back of his head with all the negatives, he overhauled the game, to fix the game for the complainers.
For a perfectionist a negative voice is heard a 100 times louder, than a thousand positive voices.
All it takes, is that doubt to set in, and only flaws will be seen.
actually no, the reason he went silent was because of ddos attacks putting him into a state of panic
@@itsraventm Therefore DDOS was fixed eventually, which was long ago. He could've gone and said something, therefore he didn't, so I don't think that DDOS was the reason that done it, lol
Unfortunately this applies even now with tons of intense accusation and hate thrown at Wollay.
There are those that want to be cautiously optimistic, and then the vast majority that only need surface level reasons to start to be angry.
@@otamatonefan8996 It's honestly sad that on his youtube channel where he uploads his dev logs he has to disable comments because of the straight up shit he gets thrown on there...
While the audience shares some degree of the blame, I think it's gross you'd give them most the blame. The developer was the one making the game. He had the vision. It was his job to make the game. The audience almost never knows what the want. Good artists know when to ignore the audience and when to listen. The developer will always share most the blame for design decisions because they're really the one who has any control over them.
For what it's worth, WollayFX released two videos recently on his RUclips channel concerning Cube World. It's difficult to see where he might be going from these two videos, but he has not abandoned the game.
this game took my heart and stomped on it. This is why getting in your own head is a mistake. You need outside feedback. Even if it's mean, or hurts.
Very very true. My heart was stomped on too 😓
Pain is a signal for your brain after all!
I'm pretty sure outside feedback was what pushed him to make sudden and significant changes to the core game design
@@hybridplays1088 THERES NEWS.
@@hybridplays1088good news. He seems to be trying to make a no mans sky. It looks good so far
damn this content deserves more recognition, i didnt even realize until after i watched it that you werent some famous content creator. informative videos that are entertaining are amazing, and you're great at making them.
Thanks so much! That means a lot!
You have a great way of shining a light on these design topics. Always very insightful.
Also I think the banana suit was the single best investment you made in your life.
Banana suit is indeed the purchase that pays for itself
If you guys haven't heard of it, Veloren is an open-world procedurally generated MMORPG done in the style of Cube World (and other games of the sort. I think it both nails the aesthetics of Cube World and does some of the game mechanics well. It's also open-source which is a plus since it's not just done by one guy.
I absolutely love Cube World and has been a dream, I hope he doesn’t give up on developing on the game because it can always be better than it was. Veloren is a great game, but cube world just has a certain style and animation that makes me drawn more to cube world than Veloren. Great Video!
JACK IDK IF YOU REMEMBER ME BUT YOUR VIDEOS ARE SO COOL!!! this is sick, i wish i went to school for game design / dev. keep it up my guy
YOOO What a crazy coincidence! Good to hear from you! Awesome to see your own channel doing well! Glad you liked the video 🙌
It's clear as day that the ENTIRE situation completely overwhelmed Wollay in every single possible ways...
The worst mistake he ever did imo, and weirdly enough, was releasing the alpha in the first place... The lad shot himself in the foot the moment he released that alpha. he also just NEVER was meant to gather as much attention as he did, the man is clearly NOT built for that and I know from experience that I too would've messed up as much as he did, if not WAY more than he did...
We introverts just aren't made for these types of situations, we just aren't. Which might be why I'm simply unable get mad at the dude... Because I know for a fact that I would've been as bad if not worse, so talking shit would be hypocritical as all get out on my part.
Though, the whole Region-based progression system CAN work, we've seen it with mods like Cubegression, which simply improves the new system in a way that makes it actually fun for a lot more people.
The second worst mistake was not making a team, or at least a community manager. That would have solves so... _SO_ many issues by acting as a filter for Wol_lay.
The idea is fundamentally flawed since it contradicts the idea of character progression, not to mention it doesn'tmake any sense outside a mechanical view.
Also, being introverted is not an excuse for bad game design, maybe for communication issues, which he had, but not for not listening to players and running away with the money.
Lmao, imagine sperging out just because of a DDOS attack.
Uh…. Idk about the introvert comment. Being introvert does NOT mean not being able to handle these types of situations. Wollay probably has other issues. Issues that I don’t know about nor are they my business. I believe it could be social anxiety (which isn’t the same as introversion despite what some people might think)
@@asgoritolinasgoritolino7708 > The idea is fundamentally flawed since it contradicts the idea of character progression, not to mention it doesn'tmake any sense outside a mechanical view.
That’s not true. Roguelikes do just that, and yet still offer some form of progression most of the time. Having a game not shy away from taking items away from the player allows it to feature very overpowered items/combinations, and often times give those to player much earlier in the game than a traditional RPG would, and still be a lot of fun to play.
I think in the case of Cube World, the game should limit its region locks to items that are deemed overpowered, while still having items that aren’t. I think this way you would get the best of both worlds.
Nah you are capping, you are not even an introvert. True introverts never give a damn but other people opinions and only care about for themselves. And also actual introverts never going to declare themselves as an introvert online. So stop pretending ffs
Loved this video! Came back as Cube World Omega is now in the works and I'm just happy to see him still going!
Thank you! Yeah, I've been keeping an eye on his devlogs as well!
I hadn't realised quite how much the fully revealed world map bothered me until you mentioned it... Excellent video!
I loved playing the alpha for precisely the reasons you outlined. I thought that it was flawed, but overall a great experience that showed a lot of potential.
I loved how you could explore, find caves for finding ore deposits, kill bosses, acquire or craft gear, *upgrade* gear in a really fun and creative way etc..
I can't count how many times I ran towards a dungeon/boss that was marked on the map and got side-tracked over and over because I saw an interesting place to go along the way.
Of course it wasn't anywhere near perfect. One thing that I didn't like was how I had to choose between upgrading my class skills or acquiring movement skills like climbing, swimming, hanggliding etc., but that was a minor complaint that I figured would be an easy fix. Same with the issue of pets never catching up to the player's level and always ending up underleveled.
I only played the release for a bit over an hour, but I simply couldn't stand continuing to play. It just was a chore to fight anything at the beginning and the prospect that crossing a border to another region would completely set me back to that very point took away all my motivation to keep playing. If I had completed one region, I pretty much would have seen all that the game has to offer aside from a few minor things.
Yet, despite the fact that everything you need is crammed into one region, the game feels directionless now. The reason is simple: Cube World is no longer an open world game where I can choose my own direction. As such, the game itself must supply that direction, but Cube World's release simply didn't do that. I felt more lost in a single region of Cube World's release than the entire world I played in the alpha.
Very well put! I used to get sidetracked so much in the Alpha, like you said; it was so hard to get from point A to point B without getting distracted by all the fun things you could find!
This video just came through my feed. As did Wollay's update regarding Cube World Omega. I don't know if I should be exited about Omega or not...
i like how you have the bloopers at the end and how you like the game even with its flaws ... you are relatable thumbs up
Glad you enjoyed!
@@hybridplays1088 do you know about veloren ? its almost thesame i would say
i remember all the hoopla about cube world, and completely erased it from my memory. this was a fantastic analysis
Thanks! Yeah I was super into it back when it dropped. It's a shame what became of the final version but I've heard whispers that Wollay might be working on fixing some things
Cube World sequel announced with comments turned off. I'm hoping he takes feedback and it doesn't send him into a spiral from what I understand happened the first time around. Maybe just going with his gut this time will bring it closer to the Alpha. I just hope its free for those that bought Cube World originally
This is the equivalent if metroid prime gives me the whole layout of the map. That sense of adventure is gone.
I'm a bit late to the party, but have you heard of Veloren?
It is a multiplayer voxel RPG written in Rust. Inspired by games such as Cube World, Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Dwarf Fortress and Minecraft, currently in pre Alpha made by 20 devs (and the community at large) trying to recreate the lost magic of Alpha Cube World, the game it's free, open source and it's pretty fun; I would highly recomend it to you.
Keep up the good work!
Thanks so much! That sounds super cool, I'll check it out!
I just commented about Veloren lol. Didn't see this comment though, whoops
I'm still surprised no other dev hasnt capitalized on the downfall that was CWs launch.
Apparently wollay is still working on CW from what ppl in the CW discord say.
Yeah that's what I've heard as well
Fans started an open source project some years back called "Veloren". The progress made thus far is incredible, it is a genuinely good game already. And it'll only get better as more time passes. You can definetely easily lose yourself in it. The only thing that's probably on the tougher side is starting out, if you haven't watched / read a guide on how to get started.
Also the caves are mental, genuinely at times more impressive than the minecraft caves update. There are mutliple cave biomes, different height means different ores and enemies and the game is so visually so pleasing.
@@tormint5294 i tried getting into Veloren a couple times, i dont know, it just doesnt have the charm that cube world has for me.
The world feels bland, the towns are always dead from either mobs or other players. and since everything is just shown on the map theres no real sense of exploration of what you might find, its a very clear progression system.
Maybe ill try it again in another year or so to see where its at
@@BasegFarmer that's fair.
I def recommend giving it a try sometime again, may that be this version or a future one.
This version def is a lot more polished than it was previously. Though skill trees for most classes still don't have their revamps but combat overall feels and looks a lot better now. Towns aren't dead anymore, on the public server there are lots of players, sometimes you'll meet one by coincidence while traveling and spontaneously party up. There are various structures scattered across the lands, bosses and caves. And the seemingly infinite view distance using forbidden technology is beautiful and adds to the sense of adventure.
I had a similar impression as you with an earlier version but this current one genuinely really impressed me.
Starting out feels very different than cube world, because veloren seems to initially put more focus on crafting equipment and gear but once you're in the gameplay loop of grinding towards better gear and through bosses, dungeons or caves, I've noticed that they managed to capture a part of what made cube world so good. Very excited to see how it'll continue developing.
Cube World Omega was recently shown a bit btw.
Wollay's going back to the foundations of what made Alpha good, skill trees and experience included.
Granted, Wollay has disabled comments, but considering the hate he's understandably STILL getting over the complicated mess that happened prior, i'm not surprised.
Time will tell for Omega.
I hope with the new Cube World Omega we will get procedural generated maps back and unexplored maps (fog of war). And leveling of course (but that is already confirmed for omega).
I personally had fun with the new Cube World too, but as you said, after a while you miss the exploring part. On the other side you can progress faster, because you can barely see any structures on map when you zoom on map.
Thank you for this video :)
I think it will, Ive seen some of the devlogs and it looks a lot more like the Alpha version than the one he released, idk if he said anything about removing the region locking things though, we will have to see
@@thecrispyacorn yeah, i agree. Region lock is one worst thing. But wolfram is developing omega based on the alpha so i have high hopes 🥳
Thats a great video with a lot of insight! Can't wait to see your chanel grow :)
Thank you so much!
Most of the problem with Wollay's process is that he told us about things that he was adding but he never told us about this in particular, in fact he scratched a lot of the things he told us.
amazing video, banger joke at 4:19 too - subscribed !
HE MADE AN UPDATE ON TWITTER
The comedic timing of your skits is perfect
Wollay just started working on a new game in the spirit of Cube World Alpha.
And he actually returned
I'm sure somebody has said it already but just in case, Alpha Cube World scales the firther away you get from your initial spawn. This includes into just the outer regions of the starting zone although not by much, the game will get significantly easier if you backtrack towards your starting zone, while the game will ramp if you just walk in a straight line away from spawn for a few zones. The idea is you pick a direction and just explore that way for hours slowly getting more powerful and the world does around you as well until you feel like making a new character and starting again. If the game gets too hard, move back towards spawn a zone or two. If the game is too easy, skip a zone or two away from spawn and I'll pick up
You make some good points about the differences and how the final version isn't perfect, but it doesn't sound like you finished the first region in the final game. The region locking isn't nearly as bad as people complain about it's really an anti-power creep mechanic that can be largely mitigated. The game gets repetitive after a while because the loop and the quests begin to get repetitive, but it's actually not a bad game on its own.
"This game has always been synonymous with potential. And I hate to see that potential go to waste" well you just summed up how 11 year old me felt at the time and made me become the game designer I'm now
I don't care if the game is bad or not. I waited 5 or 6 years for its release and finally something I had been waiting for came out.
Now I am one of the people hoping that it will be updated and be the best game ever since the successor.
In my opinion, Wollay was doing very well in the project when he disappeared in 2017, you know, when on twitter in one of his developments on July 2, 2017 he launched the flute and the harp. I think that everything below that he was developing was on the right track
For me, a perfect Cube World would compare it to Veloren. Which is a game based on Cube World and other types like it.
I saw this game in a gameplay and apart from being very expansive it was quite good.
It has its errors and glitches, but little by little those who work there fix it and I think that this game has a future as a dream Cube World
Very nice to hear something more akin to criticism and encouragment
The thing most telling about the region lock not being testest before hand, but being very thought throught is: He put a lot of effort into weapon levels, and plus weapons and how players can slowy progress more and more the more they play and need to be reset less and less... HOWEVER, when you have a freaking boat and you try to say over a freaking ocean IT WILL DISAPPEAR AS SOON AS YOU START!!!! You can't use boats to cross the one thing you need a boat for??!?!? Always play test the game yourself whenever you add/change a feature, not just that feature the whole game. If he had done that he would have left it in that state at release and it would at least have left boats and hand gliders out of the region lock.
i hope a studio picks up the alpha version and completes it
It’s too bad the game ended up the way it did. I remember watching videos about it back in the day, and really wanted to play it. It’s weird the game took this direction because Wollay had a bunch of Twitter updates that showed off new bioms, procedurally generated quests, arenas you could fight in, and other cool stuff. When I heard that it was coming to Steam imagine my excitement that I’d be able to finally play this amazing game, and it would be so much better than when it was first revealed. Luckily I watched a bunch of reviews talking about how the game didn’t live up to the alpha, and the weird changes. I’d be willing to buy the game if these issues got fixed. I can definitely understand why so many people were disappointed by these changes. I definitely am, and that’s why I haven’t purchased it yet. That being said the people harassing him were definitely in the wrong. Luckily in the meantime there’s this open source game called Veloren that’s basically the alpha of Cube World but with a lot more stuff.
Great video!
Thanks! Yeah it's a shame indeed. I'll have to check Veloren out though!
In the steam release you have all skills from the get-go it's just that they're bound to different keys than the 1,2,3 we were used to. Youd have to open the controls in the settings to figure that out tho.
That's also prob the reason you had such difficulty starting out, because you didn't use any skills. Youre right tho, the scaling is fucked
And there are items that keep their stats in neighboring zones (+ gear) but they're pretty rare.
Wollay seems to have returned to Cube World, he is now developing Cube World Omega. Not keeping my hopes high but it could be something.
I know the beta gets alot of slack, i was in that opinion before, I think i've found a way to still enjoy this game, cuz all there theres ALOT it messes up, there is also alot it does right too or at least does differently. I like the whole idea of navigation: learning what certain landmarks may represent, each different themed region coming with it's own mapping challenges, like forest is easiest with clearer landmarks more hearts n such. while lava lands is harder with no bushes, hearts, and harder to distinguish landmarks, water replaced with lava, but easier to spot shrines. snowlands having hard to spot shrines and other locations, freezing cold water, but plenty of berries and hearts. The combat seemed to be more fleshed out, I was surprised and impressed by the warrior class's effectiveness once you learn how to use it better, i did great with guardian class and even enjoy, although im a scout-main. And sometimes there are unique challenges to overcome and work around, there certainly more to do in the beta as the world is full of quests and areas(albeit locked behind restrictive levels) But with some skill you can defeat foes at least 1-star higher then yours with the right strats. I thank wollay's intensions were to make every next region you go to feel like an objectively higher level area no matter the gear(although it fails at that with showing the star system) I've learned. and it has its issues, In my opinion my worst issues, are the bullshit boss movesets, sometimes i get one-shotted because an epic beam-mage has smash and fire missles; which are pretty much one-shot attacks they can through out at anytime, and beam mages are have pretty much unavoidable high dps attacks and are TOO present in this game. And sometimes the game through higher level enemies in the middles of lower level quest making things tedious, (Although I've found creative work arounds to dealing with those issues). And there's the common stuff, taking away travel items each region, resetting your gear, The gear progress can be JANK AF The game to me kinda feels more like a "randomizer" game, each region is like a new session. When i see it in that lense, i can enjoy it more. I'm less focused on "progression" and more focused on just the "journey of adventuring", and combat in general. I pretend that each new region is just a new place higher level area, But the game also boats alot of conveniences, like instant(although somewhat limited) warp travel, sped up crafting, dropping that messy "power system", fixing some small jank the alpha had.
The overworld in the beta feels more mundane, But i think that was intentional because it allows the more significant quest areas to be more visible and stand out while mapping. I think both versions have their pros and cons, and are enjoyable in their own ways, you could say beta is just a different game.
In some of my experience, I've i remember taking down a totally bullshit boss with a good strat that involved my scout luring them outside of their tower, using his quicksand trap to keep the boss far enough away to avoid them insta-killing me with Smash, while my pet takes the aggro, and avoiding their beams by hiding behind places objects, like a hill or pillar, then kicking them to K.O and get free hits.
Then this time where all the villages in the lavalands seemed to be petrified(meaning no shopping or fast travel) so I went to a recent forest region to farm some wood and hearts, ands other materials to craft my starter gear.
Then encountering an 4-star enemy who was guarding the 2-star objective of a "destroy slime pods" quest, So i would K.O the 4-star while my pet aggros them, and would focus solely on damaging the pod to complete the quest.
Those some moments where i felt very unstoppable for overcoming such unique and (ill be honest) frustrating RNG-based challenges.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not dissing the alpha or anything. Because the alpha gave the player freedom to take on any enemy they wanted without a strict star-level system, with permanent weapons they get to keep and modify with voxel upgrades n such. Permanent travel items, and actually meaningful stat upgrades. And the mystery in the world map. But it also kind hits a stagnant point, once i got my ranger to level 80 i felt nothing to really strive towards escape maybe trying out every region theme in the game.
If you'd ask me, I would like for them to bring back to elemental cubes upgrades. fire for damage ,water for hp absorb, ice for slowing, wind for haste up. I saw the leveling system making a return, so you can take on higher level enemies without their resistance stat making them temporarily invisible from lower level attacks. I get region-locked key-items, but NO MORE region-locked travelling items. For the map, im done for anything honestly, alpha had good mystery and natural generations, while Beta adds a level of navigational skills with its landmarks despite the unfortunate design of the intermediate overworld.
Those are just my thoughts, overall cube world has been such an impactful game to me, has got me through hard times in the alpha, and today its still getting through a particularly rough patch of my life in the beta, and giving me that adventure fox i need in my life. The beta is not a perfect game, but still good enough, and is just different then the alpha.
Wolly has apparently started making a game that is like the alpha but in a new engine: Cube World Omega
Hopefully he nails it this time! The new version looks fantastic I just hope he listens the all the feedback but in a positive way and actually goes in the direction of the alpha as he's saying he wants to ^^
I think Region Lock should be a gamemode if u wanna do more hardcore run or see how many region u could dominate but if you wanna play the normal quest leveling mode then you should be able to go back to that with a simple setting.
Man when I saw this first come out, I was so hyped. I knew it would be a great game especially as it wasnt very much to play for me during that time. I also realized that the developer didnt reach out for help, I hope he continues or someone makes a game that is like this.
legit cant believe you only have 2k subs, super positive message, and youre funny as fuck man keep it up
Thank you so much!! I'm excited to upload more once I'm not so busy with my game 👍
Never change your humor. Banana with the mic killed me
He is updating the gameee, he posted it on his blog. CubeWorld Omega is coming
Your videos are very entertaining and also very educational, keep doing a great job and soon you will have some thousands followers:)
Thank you so much!
There’s a guy called tantan on the internet who is trying to make a cube world inspired game and I am hoping it won’t have these issues.
The world generation in Cube World release feels off to me
okay so some of the very start of this video is a bit misleading, the world is technically the same for everyone, but it's absurdly massive and you spawn in a random place every time you start
As a game dev, this was really helpful.
Thank you! Glad you thought so!
Number-One lesson I took from this: If you can't deal with people and community outreach, Community Managers are invaluable.
in the beta it felt like i was either garbage or op and randomly getting a really good weapon just felt undeserved and made every enemy too easy all of a sudden
I like to think for the past three years, he has been working on this game based on the criticism he received. I mean, he clearly isn't known for being active on socials so... Who's to say in the future we'll get a random update from him? Probably not... But one can hope.
Interesting story, I didn't know the game well. Regardless, for my part I'd come to a slightly different conclusion. Listen to players' feedback _if_ you already showed them the game, and preferably if the game is pretty much finished. Otherwise they might be disappointed. Since I didn't play it, I can't tell if it would have been better received if it came out directly in this state, but that's a definite possibility. Making people play your game is important at the final development stage for testing purposes, but many succesful devs have argued that listening to feedbacks from random players is a terrible idea. I understand that sometimes there's no way around it though, such as early access games. But we should keep in mind that most players think they know what's good for them, and yet apparently they don't. x)
You raise a good point: not everyone's feedback will be constructive or worth making adjustments for. Wollay's case is indeed different from a normal game because he released it as an alpha, so everyone was subjected to the standards left by that version. Given that he intended on changing so much in the final release, I feel like if he had ran an earlier beta test, he could've made adjustments accordingly. The beta test that he DID run was like a week before release, not enough time to make major design changes.
@@hybridplays1088 I see. So players had a very long time to play the alpha, but almost no time on the beta. I can understand why it's problematic. People had a lot to say, and thus were even more frustrated by the situation.
You should check out veloren
You're *completely* missing what actually happened. He'd been posting stuff in the community, and getting feedback, and talking to people. And people convinced him to release an Alpha, but he put it behind a preorder of the game for 10$. A bunch of people understood it was 10$ now for the game when it comes out, but for now it was just an early-access Alpha. But a bunch of people did *NOT* understand that, and immediately started harassing him and bullying him for "putting out" and unfinished game, forcing credit card transaction reversals claiming it was a scam, and generally, well, being The Internet. That's why he locked down and became a recluse after that first Alpha came out. And, fortunately, he seems to have gone back to working on the game as it was in the Alpha, which he's calling the Omega version.
Ah I see, I didn't realize that he was originally pressured to release something back then. Thanks for the extra info! I've been keeping up with his posts about Omega, everything about it is looking promising so far!
it's been getting some more attention by it's developer recently let him cook
I noticed the poster in the back halfway through and was just like, "Wait, this guy is the legend making Gigasword?"
Hahahaha hell yeah! That's me! Thanks!
@@hybridplays1088 I remember finding the bug where you could teleport downwards while on a platform, so if you remember someone reporting that bug, it was probably me.
6:50 that move got me 😱🤯🤣
if you like that kind of playstyle in video games you should check out Noita, that game definitely wont hold your hand and tons of content to explore
I revealed my map in my game "Nature Hunter" oooopsie ! ^^'
For a game about hunting, I can imagine it probably makes more sense to start off with a completed map 😅 but for something like Cube World....huge disappointment. But maybe CW Omega will bring back the original map screen!
Now we have Veloren !
Cant wait for cube world omega thats being developed however hes still keeping silent about it except for a few posts but he doesnt allow replys on his posts and the only have to seem to get a response is via email
He doesn't respond to emails
@@centipedekid9824 he has be know too rarely its the reason why people knew about cube world omega before he annouced it
While I do think everybody took the criticizing of Wollay way too far, I disagree that he is free of criticism. Taking down alpha branches, working in total silent, ect ect. Everything stems from a lack of communication with the playerbase and that has yet to change. Its tragic because as an alpha player from the month it was released I was always so excited to see where it would go, but it ended up becoming a lesson in game design. It really is tragic.
Yeah I miss early Cube World
Dude knows how to make a good video
bro you remind me of old school jontron, i love it
Haha thanks!
Cube World's back :D or at least wollay ist doing new devlogs
try a game called Veloren it's like cubeworld
he announced working on Cubeworld 2
but as we've seen before you never know what will actually come out at some point
Wollay seems to have some kind of crippling perfectionism. if it's not perfect the first time he just starts over and all the teasers he made are for a version he abandoned
It's a shame since to me the best version would have been the one in the quest preview video.
6:30 Roman, is that you?
What I find strange is that you compare Cube World's old map design to Skyrim, when Skyrim's map system is identical to Cube World's. Both are fully uncovered from the start, but particular structures and areas within regions aren't discovered. I fail to see why Skyrim is worth praising and Cube World is worth scorning when the way they operate is exactly identical.
I don't know. I bought the alpha and was incredibly underwhelmed. I never bothered with it again once it seemed like it was abandoned.
It doesn't really surprise me the game turned into this. It felt like developer didn't have a great grasp of how to make the game interesting. The only impressive stuff to me was the world generation and the graphics.
It sucks the game never lived up to the hype. I feel like with a better dev it could have really shined.
I hope he watches the end. This was a good review
Thank you! I hope so too!
if you like this game what do you think about Swords 'n Magic and Stuff?
Is that the name of a game? Or are you asking me what I think about those topics in general?
@@hybridplays1088 there is a game on steam call that i know is wierd but as far i check have the fell of cube world but more like a mmo iam thinking about buying. i was just asking if you knew about it or not
@@isaacribeiro6823 oh that's interesting! I've never heard of it, I'll have to check it out!
Most people where mad and upset tho cause they loved the game i have looked at most hate comments and thats most the reason
In other words, be an extrovert, even if you're not an extrovert.
Holy crap you're right.
This is No Man's Sky all over again.
Can I suggest a video idea for you?
Sure!
@@hybridplays1088 it’s about temtem
@@jessegartung294 oh yeah I've heard of that one!
@@hybridplays1088 well I think Temtem was never intened to be a MMO in the first place.
nice video
have you heard of veloren? it's basicly cube world not made by the cubeworld devs
Yeah I've been meaning to check it out!
Woah that shirt makes you look fucking shredded dude haha is it just me I mean what a big buff hottie
Amazing video though! I felt the same when playing it the same time
Whoever made this shirt has great taste! Glad you liked the video my dude 🤘❤
He changed the game for the worse in 2017, coincidentally 1 month after breath of the wild came out. i think he was inspired by that game and decided to destroy cube world
The title lies but is also true...
Great video, I think Hytale will fill this gap
I hope so! Hytale looks great so far from what we've been shown
Sadly I think this guy is waaay too neurotic to handle this project even close to properly. Every single critique or event that happens sends him into Vietnam flashback mode. Honestly, if I were him, and I had squandered this much potential so badly (not just for a great game idea, but the potential money and career prospects flushed down the toilet), I’d be kicking myself for the rest of my life.
It's a bummer all around. Somewhere there's an alternate universe where he kept the final version closer to the alpha, and I think that universe also has flying cars...
Great Video, but i do have to critique your points about wollay. While i totally get not wanting to claim to know his intentions (like the people saying he just made off with the money and released the "Full" version as a cashgrab) i also think you take it too far into the other direction with talking about how the critics he received impacted him. For all we know he worked his ass of for 6 years, or just spent his millions of euros made with the alpha until he didn't have enough left and wanted to earn some more.
This is true; who knows how he spent the time. It was clear based on his tweets throughout the years that he was still working on the project throughout that time, at least to some degree. I do believe that he's passionate about this project, but whether or not he'll return to fix things is a different story...
@@hybridplays1088 I may also bring into play the possibility he just isn't a game designer and doesn't know all too much about it. He is after all a doctor of computer science. This isn't to say he CAN'T be, but it implies him to be more of the "technical" guy. Not everyone is a god who can do great gameplay and programming and music.
6:30 he talks like rocky balboa hahahahaha
Alpha was Perfect, people keept whining about it until the game went south.
I still like playing the alpha
play veloren 🤩🤩🤩🤩
I never understood the hype about this game. the game that captured the spirit of exploration.. that's Tomb Raider 1, not an overly simplified pixel game ;)
The old PS1 tomb raider games are amazing!!
Eh… those games sadly aged like milk.
He stole people's money and ran like a coward but hey the hate is undeserved
does the banana guy have a name?
Banana Man
wasn't it made with his wife?
Wollay had feedback and plenty. He wasn't stuck in some vacuum. Wollay just couldn't handle any criticism. This is his game, this how he wants you to play, how dare you criticize it. This is why he disappears all the time. Wouldn't you personally listen to reviews and make changes accordingly? He basically abandoned the game on steam with little to no updates. Here comes the criticism so he disappeared, now he's making another game for the hype train to start all over. I guess the money ran out. Why else abandon your game completely, just to start a whole new game and charge again?
Cube World was never supposed to take off in the way that it did after it's original release way back. The game was always supposed to be a small project that both Wollay and his wife worked on for fun. No one gets to dictate what the game will or should be except for them. Imagine thinking that your opinion matters on a couples project, the entitlement lol.