Motorcycles do not have to be fast or have insane acceleration, so you do not have to justify the 400's relatively pedestrian performance. It's a good bike. The problem with so many bikers is that they are only interested in performance and have little interest in the aesthetic pleasure of being on 2 wheels. Your bike is great and I enjoyed your review. Thank you.
This kinda bikes are keepers or at least something you can give to your son some day. Try imagining that with a plastic supersport. 15-20 yrs is like a lifetime.
I feel as though these SR’s are already going to be modern day collector bike soon. The limited US production quantities alone make it rare. It’s unfortunate the new emissions regs seem to be killing these smaller displacement bikes. Mark my word, there will come a day when even newer riders desire a simple road going single or double that is light enough around the garage and equally fun on country roads. The SR happens to also be the last to be made in Japan. I’ve watched many translated videos from Japan expressing how this bike is the epitome for Japanese motorcycle engineering.
I commented some months back regarding this bike vs the Rebel 500. Was dead set on the Rebel (hopped into the dealerships a few times to really look and feel the bike over) then one day one of the dealers rang me up and said they found a sr in storage. I decided to take a look for the hell of it since it was the only one in FL I could find and immediately fell in love with it! It’s been a phenomenal first bike for me and the kick has never been an issue aside from the first 10 minutes of ownership. There’s quite a lengthy break-in period but once you get passed the first 1000 miles the bike really starts to open up and is now able to get up to 75-80 so much quicker with a lot more torque to back it. Not sport bike acceleration by any stretch of the imagination but a lot faster than what the new bike you’re riding in this video does. It does need an aftermarket exhaust and removal of the ais though as it runs way to hot for my liking because of how blocked up and restricted it is. putting in a PCV to also help with engine cooling and power as it runs to lean. Planning on a bore kit down the road as well
I think the difference to the original 500s is the crank stroke not the bore I have a 78 500 with a Dunstall style muffler that's pretty open, I've actually restricted it's outlet to quieten it a little with this pipe it will do 140kph (88mph+-) I have a spare exhaust system with a standard factory Harley Davidson sportster muffler, the Harley muffler makes it sound like a Honda 110 postie and wipes 15 kilometres off the top speed It also has an oversized Wiseco 10 to 1 piston and a simpler VM36 Mikuni carburettor and a 17 tooth front sprocket instead of the standard 16 tooth
You're welcome. I use a Sony ECMCS3 omnidirectional condenser microphone on the more modern videos I believe starting with the Harley Iron. With this one it was a chatterbox microphone with the 3.5MM adapter from when I owned the Chatterbox Duo system.
I would love to see that as it would be pretty potent in modern trim. Kawasaki just made a Ninja 400 announcement so I believe it may have opened up the door.
I moved from Moore to Thailand. Yamaha only sells the SR400 in Thailand and maybe the Philippines. Yamaha still updates the bike every couple of years or so(2 new colors for 2024, silky white and metallic grey). As of May 2024 the SR400 sells new for 295,000 Baht($8,400 or ¥1,285,662) and can be bought in Thailand and Philippines.
SR400 production is supposed to have ended in 2021 so I imagine the bikes being sold in Thailand after 2021 are possibly leftover new old stock from Japan Don't get me wrong I'm not knocking them I have a 1978 2J2 SR500
@@hodaka1000 Yes, Yamaha had that year long going away party all of 2021 but supposedly these SR400's sold in Thailand are at least 2023 models with two new colors: silky white and matt grey metallic. They price at about $9,000 I have the money but don't know if they're worth it. Only difference added over the years is fuel injection.
@@SladeBling I've heard it said that 90% of the new SR400's parts will fit the earlier models I can get just about any part I need for my 1978 SR from Yamaha The only things I can't get from Yamaha are rear disc brake parts the rear disc brakes were only on the Australian/US 1978/79 models
When will Yamaha stop poncing about with the current line-up of retro bikes,which,i admit,i like,and bring back the one that everybody who was riding single-pot 4-strokes in the 70s and 80s really wants.The XT500.They would sell-out!
I would love to see the XT500 and even the return of the XT350. That would be a nice edition to the fleet, heck Honda has a 500 adventure type right now even.
It's a great bike to customise. I can see it as a flat tracker. And with a 500 cc conversion, it wouuld be quite quick. I used to have an XT500 and never felt it was slow.
Thank you for your review of this bike and all the others. I really like the old style of the SR400. I have an old Honda CB125 but it is about done (yes, I keep things a long time). I want to upgrade and this seems a likely choice. Wish I could get the TU250 but I live in California as it is much less expensive than the SR400 and has an electric start.. One general question, given that I am coming from much lighter bikes (30 years on the 125), will the extra weight of the SR400 be an issue to get used to?
+Tom Pearson I think that little dude weighs about 250 right for the CB125? There is a little over 100lbs difference and it will be noticeable, but usually as long as your legs have a solid foundation and your legs are not over extended the bike will be easy to hold at stops. The weight melts when moving really well so you will be able to get used to it quickly. The only thing that might be a surprise is extra power. Never hurts to stop by the dealer though and set on one and move side to side to see how that feels and if you would be comfortable with the weight and balance.
When my SR was new, certain speeds buzzed so hard it cracked my license plate so I added some reinforcement. Now that it has a few thousand miles it's noticeably less buzzy.
Break in does that on thumpers. My wife S40 ate through a plate too. But it's a weird buzz that does not have an effect on the rider as much as the frame it seems. At least to me.
I took mine 100 miles up I 95 this week and its good up to 75mph - I even got 80 out of it at one point. It vibrates a bit at 60 or higher but I love it. The only difficulty is accelerating at 60 or above to pass traffic. It takes a little time. But this is a great bike!
Thanks. I scrolled down your notes and saw that you had in mind getting & customizing SR400 a few years back have you kept to your commitment? I'm moving back to Japan as I have family at XMas but I'm a bit undecided between SR400 and the Husqvarna 401 or just wait till the NEW XSR400 yamaha comes out. By the way, I like your PERSPECTIVES o nbikes so keep up the good work.
Great review as always! I think it's great to have bikes like these in the lineup, and I', glad Yamaha brought this one back. The price point put it in right next to the other classic bikes such as the Royal Enfield Bullet 500c and Continental GT. I prefer the styling of the Enfields myself. Have you ever gotten a chance to ride one of those?
+Shaun Daskam (piperpilot26) Not yet. Still working on finding an Enfield around Oklahoma. I know they are in Dallas, so next time I'm around there I will bring my gear too.
Well, I need a week with the SR400 to be accurate. I am working on a video to plea to Yamaha to make it happen as it is something that has been requested. I do like them both pretty equally with an edge going to the more powerful 400CC that can handle my big keester on the interstate a bit better. But as I said, I got a shot to live with the TU250X and put over 200 miles on it in a week, the Yamaha it was like 20 minutes and a couple of turns. So it would not be fair. Look for that video and help me put the buzz in Yamaha's ear that this is something the people want!
This one has a better ability to go to the highway if it is needed and is just as simple to maintain. Although it is more expensive this is the kind of bike you could hold on to.
+Rabid Hedgehog thanks for replying and replying quickly. When i start riding i don't know if i should get the sr 400 or the v star 250 or the yamaha r3
+The antisocial 1 The SR400 is a good place to start as it gives you enough grunt for highway speeds without fully being topped out like the 250 Vstar. The 300 is also a good choice and has the added benefit of a electric start. It can also hold highway speeds easier. The SR400 and Vstar 250 are more comfortable though.
These things are a very rare breed sadly here. It took me forever to find a dealer that even carried one on their showroom because no one here buys them. So we have to usually order them. However, there are a few that have been sold and one day someone may trade one and I will do my best to find that one.
+graycows I bought one when in December of '14. It's really a lot of fun in town, but it is not cool 65+ with any wind! It blows all over the place. Cruising around 50 is perfect.
Hi Hedge, thumbs up review. I am ringing a Honda Wave here in Thailand. I just notice one of these bike here and I could not take my eyes off of it. Brought back memories of my Kawasaki KZ 400! I am 6 foot 2 inches, 140 pounds. Do you think this bike would be good for me. At 57 I am not looking to break any speed records or my head! take care Dana
I bought one of these a couple weeks ago and love it. For a 400 single and it being so slim, 384 lbs is actually kinda heavy. It's still light enough to feel nimble, but not too flighty at higher speeds or in cross winds. The Yamaha MT07 is only about 20 lbs more with nearly 3X the power. My FZ09 is 425 lbs and has 5X the power, but the SR isn't about muscle. It is a joy to chug down the road. The front suspension is my biggest complaint. Too softly sprung, but the damping is actually generous enough to handle a LOT more spring rate. The stock progressive springs collapse just from the bike's weight. I threw in some RaceTech 85 kg/mm and it rides beautifully, still plush without massive brake dive. Best $100-150 you can spend on a suspension upgrade.
@@RabidHedgehog Worth a look. I don't know if the Rebel forks come apart the same as ttge SR, but probably so. They're simple damper rod forks, so the springs probably come out the top side and are held in my the threaded top caps. Check the RaceTech page to see if they have springs for your bike and use their spring rate calculator to figure out what you need.
I was quite interested in this for getting back into riding after 40 (yikes) years. But I wanted a little more muscle and went with the S40 Boulevard. The mid range torque on the big single is very enjoyable around town. I am out in the country, so I do 60mph+ roads, but I have no real need to hit interstate type highways. Also, the SR400 is a little over priced IMO. In your opinion how does the SR400 compare with the S40 at 60-65? They are nearly identical in weight. The Boulevard still has decent pull at that speed.
The SR400 does not have the punch of the Zuks engine for sure. The S40 will out run it in any gear and at the 60-65 range. The SR400s advantage is the modern fuel injection just not the power.
I'm not convinced that for a big air cooled single FI is a big deal. Muli cylinders are a different story. The Mikuni carb is easy to reject and or rebuild. Ethanol of course is a bugaboo. I am able to run ethanol free gas about half the time and I am a faithful user of Stabil Marine. So far I think I like the belt over a chain. Still, after sitting on that 400 at the dealer,I think I would like a chance to ride it around for a few days. It does look like a nice around town bike. Felt nice. When someone asks me which gun is my favorite, I say the one I am shooting that day. If I could own multiple bikes, I probably would say the the one I was riding that day..
Beth Jacobs no you can. The SR400 has fuel injection and compression release along with a nice window that shows when it's in TDC and easiest to start. Very easy to live with kickstarter until the battery dies.
That was in the past, when they had carburators. Now with electronic injection it's way easier. Go for it if you like it. Soon going to buy it from a girl who sadly has to sell it for working abroad. She loves it.
One to two kicks, so fairly quickly. I have been able to start them several times on the first go since it has that setup with the window. The only thing that kills it is when the battery is dead, it just won't get going and you'll be kicking thinking you have juice.
***** When the battery is dead? I would assume that the motor running is what charges the battery. Otherwise I am not sure what you meant. Do you mean you had situations where you are stranded due to the battery dying and not being able to get the bike started again?
That is correct. I borrowed these bikes from two dealers where they had chilled on their floor a little too long. They let me take them out to help charge them. However, when I went to start there was nothing. The lights and everything just went dim and or shut off. Turns out the batteries had died and they had to be jumped. Since these bikes are fuel injected if the battery is out, even with the kick starter, it just will not get going. You can bump start them oddly enough, (we attached one to an ATV and towed me around the parking lot until it fired).
***** How likely is this to happen and how often? I am considering this as my next upgrade bike because I enjoy the style and size of it. It would be extremely upsetting if it turned out to NOT be a reliable bike, considering the 6k price tag.
I would say that as long as you are actually using it and keeping it trickle charge when not in motion then there should not be an issue what-so-ever. These had the misfortune of sitting around too long. They are sadly not very popular here in Oklahoma.
plan to rent one of these in London, to do some touring. I'm 6'4" 280 lbs. plan to rent one for 3 weeks.I normally ride a 2012 Honda Gold wing and drag a trailer. no one had wings over there to rent.
I'm riding my bike with trailer from Central Florida to Maine, then flying to london. staying 3 weeks, then flying back to the goldwing, and another weeks ride home
+Jojo Gun Fang Since this bike is fuel injected sadly it will still not start. The funny part was it had a dead battery when I first got there. The dealer and I had to bump start it. So the kick start was after the ride when the battery was charged back. Still a great bike. They just had that thing on their floor for more than 7 months.
***** I didnt know they would not start if they was fuel injected. I just learned something new. I had a bike if the Battery was just a little low it would not even start with Electric start. I gave it to a friends son. I hope he is having fun with it.
+Jojo Gun Fang Yeah that is the sad reality with the FI vs Carb this time. It is a great backup for bikes still using carburation for fueling, such as a Honda Ruckus, or some older ones.
+Rabid Hedgehog Actually, having carbs does not automatically mean you can kick start sans battery. The 70's Honda CB450 and CB500T come to mind as bikes that need a full battery even to kick start. Found that out when I bought a 500T last year with a broken starter and a dead battery. The electricals worked, so I kicked it for days before I even thought about changing the battery. Once I got a new one, it started right up.
+Amateur Chemist This is true. I wonder if it is how the electrical system is setup. I know some modern scooters do indeed kick over with a dead battery. And some older bikes with magneto ignition systems. But it is a good thing to note and share.
There's something very subtle I'm beginning to notice with some of these video's. When does a review become an advertisement ? I'm not saying this video in particular is like that but having seen some other bike video's I'm perceiving this overlap or duality in the presentation of the product. Heaven forbid that RUclips becomes another gumtree or ebay.
If I could have an SR-400. It has just enough for every circumstance as long as you don't mind the kick start only feature. The TU250 is just slightly too slow for my area where interstate speeds have climbed to 75 or more.
I try my best to think of everyday riders. There's not a track in everyone's backyard after all. I do agree they do too much higher speeds and tend to do wheelies and such that not everyone will do everyday.
Would you say that SR400 is really no better than the Suzuki TU250X and maybe not as good in some respects? You seemed be much more enthusiastic in your review of the TU250X. (?)
The TU250X I had a ton more time with. This bike was rode also after a very disappointing day on a Bolt (notice no review on that machine), and the Deluxe 1300. So I was having an issue overcoming some issues. This bike was the diamond. I loved it. I would say the little bit more of engine is what the TU needs but the TUs suspension is what the SR needs. Love them both equally and I actually reached out to Yamaha begging for a long term review machine like I had a chance with the TU and they responded, this bike is no longer going to be in the US.
The Suzuki TU250X is better because it costs a lot less, runs just as good, has electric start, and gets better fuel economy. I would buy the Suzuki over the Yamaha even though the Yamaha is very good looking.
Narrow seat and light weight does help, but I know the seat is a bit tall as well. I would recommend sitting on it and if it allows the balls of your feet or more to touch then it will be fine. If it is only tippy toes, then it is a bit too tall.
I really like the look of this bike, it could be a long term keeper for weekend joy rides, but not sure if the SWM 440 or the Honda CB300R are a more refined ride. Just for the country twisty roads...
@@RabidHedgehog I wonder what it is with these newer single cylinder models that make them vibrate a little less when pushed at higher speeds... For a second there i thought the CB300R may have been a smaller displacement VTwin, but its also a single cylinder.
@@RabidHedgehog I wonder what the manufacturers have done with these new single cylinder models to improve the vibrations at higher speeds, as I thought that the CB300R was a small displacement V-Twin, but its also a single cylinder. Anyway, keep up the reviews on these smaller bikes as it helps the new motorcyclists heaps, especially with the A2/LAMS bikes we are required to use on our Learner's Period.
The SR400 will have more power and is shorter with its essentially 32 inch seat height vs the near 35 on the CRF. It's about as narrow and it's a little heavier at 381 wet vs 320. Fuel capacity is 1.2 gallons more on the SR400 but you'll see around mid 50s for fuel consumption vs mid 60s on the CRF. You'll have a greater top speed with the Yamaha though at just shy of 100 instead of just shy of 80. It's going to boil down to if you want to street ride more often or if you want the added benefit of being able to go off road. And if you want a kick start only in life vs. the benefit of electric on the CRF.
This one did turn over, but the fuel injection was not engaging so it would not start so it is kind of in the same boat as a standard electric start bike.
+Sqeptick Tough call. You have the TU250X which is fuel injected as well and is around the same dimensions. It has a smaller engine for sure, and you can simply hop on and press a button and BAM started bike... However, cannot do highway riding as easily. Still can run up to the speed, but very slowly and will not have easy passing power. The SR400, if you can get down the trick of aligning the moon and stars to start in one kick (really it is not that hard I promise, that was my actual first start due to the battery being dead so super easy, Yamaha did an awesome job with the side window that shows you when the piston is in position for easy start), I would actually lean towards the SR400. I like the retro aspect of kick start and the 400 can get you to 90, so it holds highway speeds much easier. TU250X has a top out of 75 max. There are still great things for the TU250X. Identical fuel capacity and the ability to get up to 82MPG (manufacturer claim) means the little TU250 will have better range as a commuter in town. And the price difference. The SR400 is $1591 more than the TU250, so is that performance worth that much more? Sad thing is I can justify the price. With the kits and accessories that exist that can turn the SR400 from street to dual purpose scrambler, to a clean café racer the possibility is near endless as to what you can do. Love them both but SR wins. Sorry for the longer response.
+Rabid Hedgehog Interesting. For what it's worth, your review of the TU250X had a big impact in my decision to buy one. I love it most of the time. But every now and then (like if it's windy) I do wish I had a bit more horsepower. The SR400 and the Honda CB500X are two that have caught my eye. And for the record, I do get 70-90 mpg on my TU...depending on the type of riding. Thanks again, I enjoy your videos.
+Sqeptick Tu250 is a great bike. The problem I have is the whole I like too many bikes! I'd love both in my garage for sure. Your Tu250 and my XT250 sound like they would get along well in the if I only had more weight/power class when it comes to wind. This last week here in Oklahoma we experienced 60 MPH gusts and mid to upper 30s sustained winds... I felt like the XT was pulling a log behind it constantly... or I ate one too any pieces of pizza or something going into the wind, felt like trying to sail a boat with the wind to my side, but had a blast with the tailwind :) I then switched to the Fat Bob for the remainder of the week since it's made of lead. The SR400 would be really light in the wind as well I feel. I have a friend with a CB500. Maybe I can convince him to let me ride.
Nice review, but my eyebrows raised a couple of inches when you said it is kinda tall. I am definitely kinda short at 5'4" but even I find it to be on the smallish side! Guess it depends what you compare it to though. Yeah and power delivery IS lazy, but I don't mind, it looks cool and I enjoy driving it.
I am working on Yamaha to see if they could loan me one for a long term review. I did like riding it for sure and I love the kick start and classic feel for sure. By tall it has a seat of over 30 inches, so it is a physically small motorcycle but the seat is surprisingly tall for its size.
Yeah that's funny, I guess with the seat being quite narrow it doesn't feel tall at all. My SV650 for instance has a lower quoted seat height but where my feet comfortably reach the ground on the SR400, this is much less so with the SV650. If I'd have to go by feeling alone I would have guessed that the SV650 is at least 2 inches taller than the SR400.
I am 6'0" with a 32 inch inseam. This bike has a 30.9 inch seat height so for people that are shorter or new they may feel uncomfortable with the way you have to hold it.
You might be a bit on the taller side. It only has a roughly 31 inch seat height and it is a narrow bike frame so it does not push your legs out to help absorb some of the length as well. I would still recommend finding one to sit on and check it out.
Very good review.. My only critique is the use of "for a 400" in your performance review. Yamaha blew this beautiful bike with a down-tuned EFI highly restricted motor. Examples, my RD400 in 1978 was quick enough scare the pee out of most riders, my current DR400 Suzi will dial a wheelie on command, and embarrass larger CC bikes light to light (to compare the capability of modern single 400 four stroke to the SR400) 400-650CC singles do not need to be rough, lame, lazy or otherwise. Yamaha just took their third world'Asian inner city budget 400cc Urban bike, called it a heritage/classic etc, jacked the price accordingly for the wealthy US market, and released a doggy product. The concept of the SR400 is great. I get the 400cc tiered foreign license logic, so the 400 is cool, vs releasing the old SR500. A 400cc single cyl four banger does not need to be rough, doggy, or incapable of safe comfortable highway use.Everything about the SR400 screams "buy me", I'm bummed Yamaha only targeted new riders, and inner city traffic. Fingerhorn4... I'm with you, but some folks will actually want to enter a freeway with safe, snappy acceleration. In Texas it's not uncommon for secondary roads as well as freeways to have 70mph+ posted speed. Positive acceleration on your commuter bike is like a spare $100 bill . You don't have to use it, but it's nice to have...Very good review, the best I've seen. Great audio during the ride
Agreed, there's no reason this bike should feel slow and lazy when the TU250X doesn't. Especially with the much bigger engine and price tag. Should've made this a twin and maybe a 500. It could still be beginner-friendly and classic looking, and would've been a lot more satisfying. Oh, and electric start option.
I really am looking for one of these for my old man. How does the odo/speedo/fuel gauge respond to different size tires/fuel tank etc? Anyone aware of best practices for these bikes when modifying the tank and tire sizes? Thank you!
The 400cc is something to do with Japanese road registration requirements An XT400 basically the same as the XT500 only with the shorter stroke was available in Asia
@@BritishBikerPhilippines Right I should've written in "Japan" I'm in Australia where we had XT500s and TT500s but I have seen pictures on the internet of the XT400 that was pretty well identical to the XT500
I actually begged Yamaha to sponsor this idea to show it off.... Of course they killed the model off here in the US and I heard nothing from them... Still want one to build up
Sweet bike, but if you had one of these in the UK, car drivers would think it was a 125, and would drive dangerously around you, tailgating and cutting in, etc. A shame, because it's a real good looker.
I don't know, but most 125 riders in the UK are on CBT (i.e. they don't have a proper bike licence but have taken something a bit like your MSF course instead, as a preliminary to a proper licence), and wherever they go, they have to have big, clearly visible L-plates front and rear. L stands for 'learner', and when car drivers see it they often make a point of cutting up the rider, sometimes shouting, and generally hating being behind the rider. Because this is dangerous and annoying, L-platers sometimes ditch the L-plates (illegally), but the bike still looks small (as it's a 125), and many drivers will behave accordingly. I was on L-plates on a 125 for several months before jumping through all the hoops to get a big bike licence. I think it may be a psychological thing, for many car drivers. If they see a big bike, with a big rider (motocross armour under jacket etc.) they behave completely differently. Big bikes in general look a lot more focussed (sports, cruiser, streetfighter, etc.) these days than 125s, which have more ambiguous, 'commuter', or halfway styling. That's where the danger is with the SR400. Easily mistaken for a 125.
Sorry to hear about the Ninja but happy you are still riding today. I have only been tagged two minor times, once on a Z125 Pro where a lady pulled out and pushed me out of my lane and caused me to slide, and once on the Rebel 500 I currently own where the rear got tagged by the front of a Chevy Trailblazer, but luckily did nothing but dent up my license plate, but nothing like what you have had happen.
It is a very attractive bike, especially if you like 70s Japanese commuter bike styling, instead of mini cruiser wanabees and transformer sport bike Ninjas. Far too expensive for what is in it: 1. nearly 400lbs a one cyl 23hp at redline (19hp in normal riding) 2. a small tank. 4-5 gals could have been achieved with the same look 3. The Vstar 250 Yamaha makes more HP, has an electric start and better brakes 4. I think the whole appeal of this is the look. I do like the straight seat better than the mustang variants. I like having the tach too. I have ridden a CB250, Vstar and this. This is actually not much quicker than the very conservative Honda 234cc, is louder and heavier and much more expensive. The Vstar (especially if regeared with an extra tooth) is a better ride.
This bike is all about being fully retro. The second appeal is the vast aftermarket of this bike as it is easy to upgrade and mod. I have seen folks turn these into big thumping scramblers. I have been on the Vstar 250 and due to my height and such I feel very cramped on that bike. The SR400 has that 31 inch seat height and a peg position that still works for me. But it is what it is.
Rabid Hedgehog. Agreed. It is a full 70s stock bike. The low HP on a 400 always seemed odd to me when the 250 had more. Maybe the 400 has better torque at low speeds, I haven't looked. Saw a late model T100 Bonneville outfitted in 50s style on sale in Alabama for $3800 yesterday. If I was in the market for another retro street bike/scrambler I'd be over there right now.
The SR400 makes its torque very early, about 18 of its 20 ft-lbs from 2800RPM. Unless you have numbers I don't, the SR400 makes about 2 more horsepower, and 5 ft-lbs more torque, but the dyno charts I pulled are from different sources, so they shouldn't be directly comparable. Having said that, the SR400 having so much displacement over the 250 on fairly level playing field (air cooled engines), it would make sense for the SR400 to make more power, although the 250's delivery is much smoother, so it might feel better accelerating. Having put 11,000k miles on a XV250 (with the rear sprocket swap), and owning a SR400 now I can say just from highway riding, the SR400 definitely makes more power - not much, but I can regularly hit 80+MPH, while on the 250 the wind was a major factor on whether or not I can break 80. Even being against wind, I can still go 85mph on the SR400. I definitely think the SR400 is a bit much for what it is, but apparently there was a demand as people were importing them from Japan for north of $8k for them which is why Yamaha re-introduced it in N. America with an ambitious price since it still undercuts import price. If I were strictly commuting, and and total cost was a factor (buying and operating), I'd go 250 cruiser again. However, I also have a H-D Dyna for power and range, so I needed an around town bike that was fun and practical and had to cheap to own and maintain, and the SR400 fit the bill perfectly. For me, it's a better around town bike compared to the 250 cruisers being narrow, more flickable, and having a higher seat height, so it fits my purposes better.
380llbs?!? Even air cooled no E-start??? I heard what one guy paid and I thought right away "DANG! what a rip off weighing like it does" ...Dual sport bikes with larger motors sell for same money and yet weigh way less (60 llbs) ....meaning? For pennies Yamaha COULD have dropped this motorcycle to barely over 300 lbs at the same price point...I believe
Not everyone wants a dual sport motorcycle. The bike is super easy to kick start. Vintage styling without some of the headaches that come with vintage bikes
the problem with those bikes is no rev gauge or electric start and over priced. Have you tried a Suzuki tu250 or kawasaki estrella? Similar bikes but cheaper.
It's virtually the same machine as the SR500. The main difference is the stroke and compression. So just put in a stroker kit (yes the make them) and you have an SR500.
@@Charon58 They stopped producing SR500s in 1999 or 2000 They've produced SR400s from 1978 until 2021 and are still selling what I believe would be surplus new old stock SR400s in Thailand today in 2024
Battery may have already been weak and not allowing it to inject fuel properly. I learned that due to it still being computerized it does require a good battery to get it going. On this unit they literally bump started me to get me going as the battery had failed as it sat on the floor and we charged it for a couple of hours and we still had issues with the starting so we resorted to a bump start.
So perhaps that was it glad you can get the thing rolling to get it to start? When I called back they said it only took 45 minutes to charge But I really like a bike in this style and power so perhaps one will be available to try. To bad I hear no electric starter kit is available.
For a bike that is surprisingly similar in terms of the power and such the Suzuki TU250X is a great little bike that has electric start. Like the SR400 it is not going to light the world on fire and has about 10 ponies less than the SR and probably a max speed of around 80 ish but it will run forever. Might take a look at that bike.
It has a compression tdc sight glass...I am recovering from an accident ...and am waiting for the price to be a little bit cheaper.I did not realize there is a primer how do you prime it? I did get it started .
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Motorcycles do not have to be fast or have insane acceleration, so you do not have to justify the 400's relatively pedestrian performance. It's a good bike. The problem with so many bikers is that they are only interested in performance and have little interest in the aesthetic pleasure of being on 2 wheels. Your bike is great and I enjoyed your review. Thank you.
Thanks! She's not mine though, but I do want one.
I agree. Regarding bikes, my feeling is that the journey is the destination.
fingerhorn4 That really is a beautiful statement. I want that to be my life motto. I enjoyed the review as well.
This kinda bikes are keepers or at least something you can give to your son some day. Try imagining that with a plastic supersport. 15-20 yrs is like a lifetime.
@Bunnyshooter 223 yea you also want mobility in that case
Picking up one of these this weekend as my first motorcycle. I'm really excited!
Awesome! How's the ride so far?
I got a 2016 sr400 about half a year ago, great bike.. I turned it into cafe racer
@@RabidHedgehog Other than first feeling a little slow, she rides great (though I don't have much to compare to!).
I feel as though these SR’s are already going to be modern day collector bike soon. The limited US production quantities alone make it rare. It’s unfortunate the new emissions regs seem to be killing these smaller displacement bikes. Mark my word, there will come a day when even newer riders desire a simple road going single or double that is light enough around the garage and equally fun on country roads. The SR happens to also be the last to be made in Japan. I’ve watched many translated videos from Japan expressing how this bike is the epitome for Japanese motorcycle engineering.
I commented some months back regarding this bike vs the Rebel 500. Was dead set on the Rebel (hopped into the dealerships a few times to really look and feel the bike over) then one day one of the dealers rang me up and said they found a sr in storage. I decided to take a look for the hell of it since it was the only one in FL I could find and immediately fell in love with it! It’s been a phenomenal first bike for me and the kick has never been an issue aside from the first 10 minutes of ownership. There’s quite a lengthy break-in period but once you get passed the first 1000 miles the bike really starts to open up and is now able to get up to 75-80 so much quicker with a lot more torque to back it. Not sport bike acceleration by any stretch of the imagination but a lot faster than what the new bike you’re riding in this video does. It does need an aftermarket exhaust and removal of the ais though as it runs way to hot for my liking because of how blocked up and restricted it is. putting in a PCV to also help with engine cooling and power as it runs to lean. Planning on a bore kit down the road as well
I think the difference to the original 500s is the crank stroke not the bore
I have a 78 500 with a Dunstall style muffler that's pretty open, I've actually restricted it's outlet to quieten it a little with this pipe it will do 140kph (88mph+-)
I have a spare exhaust system with a standard factory Harley Davidson sportster muffler, the Harley muffler makes it sound like a Honda 110 postie and wipes 15 kilometres off the top speed
It also has an oversized Wiseco 10 to 1 piston and a simpler VM36 Mikuni carburettor and a 17 tooth front sprocket instead of the standard 16 tooth
Thank you for reviewing this bike. Keep doing reviews. You have great audio quality.
You're welcome. I use a Sony ECMCS3 omnidirectional condenser microphone on the more modern videos I believe starting with the Harley Iron. With this one it was a chatterbox microphone with the 3.5MM adapter from when I owned the Chatterbox Duo system.
Honda needs to make the cb400 again just like this bike. The Honda twin will go down as one of the best motors ever!
I would love to see that as it would be pretty potent in modern trim. Kawasaki just made a Ninja 400 announcement so I believe it may have opened up the door.
It's probably not gonna happen.
CM400 is the inline twin the CB400 was the inline 4.
@@insertname6143 CB400N Twin Cylinder (HAWK)
Looks like a really fun bike and I love the kickstart.
+boarder989 It is fun! It's on a short list for me to buy and fiddle with. I like the kickstarter and it's easy to use compared to others.
I just bought a ‘18. It’s cute, I like it.
I love it. Simple. Pure. Clean.
Indeed! great commuter bike!
I moved from Moore to Thailand. Yamaha only sells the SR400 in Thailand and maybe the Philippines. Yamaha still updates the bike every couple of years or so(2 new colors for 2024, silky white and metallic grey). As of May 2024 the SR400 sells new for 295,000 Baht($8,400 or ¥1,285,662) and can be bought in Thailand and Philippines.
When did the production shift to Thailand? I'd prefer a made in Japan SR400
@@takumisato7126 I just checked and I was wrong the SR400 is still manufactured in Japan and then shipped to Thailand. I will make the correction.
SR400 production is supposed to have ended in 2021 so I imagine the bikes being sold in Thailand after 2021 are possibly leftover new old stock from Japan
Don't get me wrong I'm not knocking them I have a 1978 2J2 SR500
@@hodaka1000 Yes, Yamaha had that year long going away party all of 2021 but supposedly these SR400's sold in Thailand are at least 2023 models with two new colors: silky white and matt grey metallic. They price at about $9,000 I have the money but don't know if they're worth it. Only difference added over the years is fuel injection.
@@SladeBling
I've heard it said that 90% of the new SR400's parts will fit the earlier models
I can get just about any part I need for my 1978 SR from Yamaha
The only things I can't get from Yamaha are rear disc brake parts the rear disc brakes were only on the Australian/US 1978/79 models
I want one of these gorgeous bikes but Yamaha has discontinued it and there aren't any left.
There’s used ones around.
When will Yamaha stop poncing about with the current line-up of retro bikes,which,i admit,i like,and bring back the one that everybody who was riding single-pot 4-strokes in the 70s and 80s really wants.The XT500.They would sell-out!
I would love to see the XT500 and even the return of the XT350. That would be a nice edition to the fleet, heck Honda has a 500 adventure type right now even.
It's a great bike to customise. I can see it as a flat tracker. And with a 500 cc conversion, it wouuld be quite quick. I used to have an XT500 and never felt it was slow.
1990 I bet it would be excellent. If I got one my dream was to convert it to a Scrambler style and big bore it.
Thank you for your review of this bike and all the others. I really like the old style of the SR400. I have an old Honda CB125 but it is about done (yes, I keep things a long time). I want to upgrade and this seems a likely choice. Wish I could get the TU250 but I live in California as it is much less expensive than the SR400 and has an electric start.. One general question, given that I am coming from much lighter bikes (30 years on the 125), will the extra weight of the SR400 be an issue to get used to?
+Tom Pearson I think that little dude weighs about 250 right for the CB125? There is a little over 100lbs difference and it will be noticeable, but usually as long as your legs have a solid foundation and your legs are not over extended the bike will be easy to hold at stops. The weight melts when moving really well so you will be able to get used to it quickly. The only thing that might be a surprise is extra power. Never hurts to stop by the dealer though and set on one and move side to side to see how that feels and if you would be comfortable with the weight and balance.
You'll get used soon, it's a logical next step in your motorcycling career:)
When my SR was new, certain speeds buzzed so hard it cracked my license plate so I added some reinforcement. Now that it has a few thousand miles it's noticeably less buzzy.
Break in does that on thumpers. My wife S40 ate through a plate too. But it's a weird buzz that does not have an effect on the rider as much as the frame it seems. At least to me.
hahaha I have a cracked plate too
This is a very classy bike, but unfortunately very rare, at least in Europe. It has a very classic look and I like it.
Right you can't get in trouble. I never did with my 79 and 80 SR500s which were a bit faster but I love my 2015 SR400.
Nice review! I like these bikes a lot. I own it's older, biker, hillbilly sibling, the XT500. Wouldn't mind one of these for sure!
Truth, that is an absolute bullet proof machine that you have.
I have one of these. Great bike for round town. Have taken it on the highway and its OK but has limits. Love it in almost everyday.
I still want one to play with as I know they are solid rides. It is just where I am it is highway or nothing, so that is what stopped me for now.
I took mine 100 miles up I 95 this week and its good up to 75mph - I even got 80 out of it at one point. It vibrates a bit at 60 or higher but I love it. The only difficulty is accelerating at 60 or above to pass traffic. It takes a little time. But this is a great bike!
@@chrisb9740 Thanks this is exactly what I was looking for and wanted to know!
Hi there,
Good review,
How long did it take to get to 60mph? And did you get to ride on the highway?
thanks
It gets there in about 8 seconds and is highway capable as it will top out over 90. I just did not get to do that myself.
Thanks. I scrolled down your notes and saw that you had in mind getting & customizing SR400 a few years back have you kept to your commitment? I'm moving back to Japan as I have family at XMas but I'm a bit undecided between SR400 and the Husqvarna 401 or just wait till the NEW XSR400 yamaha comes out. By the way, I like your PERSPECTIVES o nbikes so keep up the good work.
I am an experienced as I had a Kawasaki GPZ1000RX in 1986 which was a speedball and toured European Union. Bye.
Great review as always! I think it's great to have bikes like these in the lineup, and I', glad Yamaha brought this one back. The price point put it in right next to the other classic bikes such as the Royal Enfield Bullet 500c and Continental GT. I prefer the styling of the Enfields myself. Have you ever gotten a chance to ride one of those?
+Shaun Daskam (piperpilot26) Not yet. Still working on finding an Enfield around Oklahoma. I know they are in Dallas, so next time I'm around there I will bring my gear too.
Great reviews! Which bike do you like better (and why), the Yamaha SR400 or the Suzuki TU250X.....?
Well, I need a week with the SR400 to be accurate. I am working on a video to plea to Yamaha to make it happen as it is something that has been requested. I do like them both pretty equally with an edge going to the more powerful 400CC that can handle my big keester on the interstate a bit better. But as I said, I got a shot to live with the TU250X and put over 200 miles on it in a week, the Yamaha it was like 20 minutes and a couple of turns. So it would not be fair. Look for that video and help me put the buzz in Yamaha's ear that this is something the people want!
Thanks for taking the time...I'll look for that video...
probably needs a good break in period and it feel alot better power wise I think
Could be, that one only had like 10 miles so it was very new.
What would you recommend for a beginner motorcyclist between this and the Suzuki TU250?
This one has a better ability to go to the highway if it is needed and is just as simple to maintain. Although it is more expensive this is the kind of bike you could hold on to.
***** Ok, thanks for the speedy reply!
Would you suggest this as a good beginner bike
It is a good everyone bike. Light, easy to maintain, and spirited enough to get to highway speeds. It's also a decent starting price.
+Rabid Hedgehog thanks for replying and replying quickly. When i start riding i don't know if i should get the sr 400 or the v star 250 or the yamaha r3
+The antisocial 1 The SR400 is a good place to start as it gives you enough grunt for highway speeds without fully being topped out like the 250 Vstar. The 300 is also a good choice and has the added benefit of a electric start. It can also hold highway speeds easier. The SR400 and Vstar 250 are more comfortable though.
Do you think the bike would be comfortable for cruising at 45-50 for maybe an hour? Thanks
It was born for that kind of duty.
If you ever get the opportunity to drive one that has been broke in I would love to see it on the highway.
These things are a very rare breed sadly here. It took me forever to find a dealer that even carried one on their showroom because no one here buys them. So we have to usually order them. However, there are a few that have been sold and one day someone may trade one and I will do my best to find that one.
+graycows I bought one when in December of '14.
It's really a lot of fun in town, but it is not cool 65+ with any wind! It blows all over the place. Cruising around 50 is perfect.
Thanks for the input Tommy!
I'm thinking about this or the rebel 500. Since you've ridden both which one did you prefer? Thanks!
Never mind, just watched your recent video. Keep up the awesome content and ride safe.
Thanks again.
Thanks for the support! And I will indeed continue to work on it!
Do you like this one more than the Suzuki tu250x? You seemed to really love that one
Sorry you answered this already
No worries. I still am working to see if I can get a head to head so share with Yamaha and put a buzz in their ear.
Hi Hedge,
thumbs up review. I am ringing a Honda Wave here in Thailand. I just notice one of these bike here and I could not take my eyes off of it. Brought back memories of my Kawasaki KZ 400! I am 6 foot 2 inches, 140 pounds. Do you think this bike would be good for me. At 57 I am not looking to break any speed records or my head!
take care
Dana
This bike would do great for you for around town. You will have your knees a little high but it will not be that bad.
It does seem the Thais love this model.
Do the handlebars vibrate? The fellow with the sort of pretty baltic accent said so.
It does a little bit like every single does, but to me it's more of a buzzing than vibration at the higher RPMs.
It would never be the original SR500. I am proud to have a 30 year old original one with the greatest sound :D Never want to miss it
That sounds like an awesome kit! We rarely have original UJM bikes like that in Oklahoma.
im looking for the Triumph Street Ttwin (2016), not the same price but a quality bike ? i dont know!
The SR 400 not available in canada!
I bought one of these a couple weeks ago and love it. For a 400 single and it being so slim, 384 lbs is actually kinda heavy. It's still light enough to feel nimble, but not too flighty at higher speeds or in cross winds. The Yamaha MT07 is only about 20 lbs more with nearly 3X the power. My FZ09 is 425 lbs and has 5X the power, but the SR isn't about muscle. It is a joy to chug down the road.
The front suspension is my biggest complaint. Too softly sprung, but the damping is actually generous enough to handle a LOT more spring rate. The stock progressive springs collapse just from the bike's weight. I threw in some RaceTech 85 kg/mm and it rides beautifully, still plush without massive brake dive. Best $100-150 you can spend on a suspension upgrade.
I wonder if that would work out the issues in my Rebels forks?
@@RabidHedgehog Worth a look. I don't know if the Rebel forks come apart the same as ttge SR, but probably so. They're simple damper rod forks, so the springs probably come out the top side and are held in my the threaded top caps. Check the RaceTech page to see if they have springs for your bike and use their spring rate calculator to figure out what you need.
I was quite interested in this for getting back into riding after 40 (yikes) years. But I wanted a little more muscle and went with the S40 Boulevard. The mid range torque on the big single is very enjoyable around town. I am out in the country, so I do 60mph+ roads, but I have no real need to hit interstate type highways. Also, the SR400 is a little over priced IMO.
In your opinion how does the SR400 compare with the S40 at 60-65? They are nearly identical in weight. The Boulevard still has decent pull at that speed.
The SR400 does not have the punch of the Zuks engine for sure. The S40 will out run it in any gear and at the 60-65 range. The SR400s advantage is the modern fuel injection just not the power.
I'm not convinced that for a big air cooled single FI is a big deal. Muli cylinders are a different story. The Mikuni carb is easy to reject and or rebuild. Ethanol of course is a bugaboo. I am able to run ethanol free gas about half the time and I am a faithful user of Stabil Marine. So far I think I like the belt over a chain.
Still, after sitting on that 400 at the dealer,I think I would like a chance to ride it around for a few days. It does look like a nice around town bike. Felt nice. When someone asks me which gun is my favorite, I say the one I am shooting that day. If I could own multiple bikes, I probably would say the the one I was riding that day..
I enjoy your reviews , have u done a gz 250? i know u did a Tu 250
Not been able to do a GZ250 as they were kind of on their way out before I started the channel.
I hear you can't kickstart a bike when it is humid or raining I am considering this bike for myself.
Beth Jacobs no you can. The SR400 has fuel injection and compression release along with a nice window that shows when it's in TDC and easiest to start. Very easy to live with kickstarter until the battery dies.
That was in the past, when they had carburators. Now with electronic injection it's way easier. Go for it if you like it. Soon going to buy it from a girl who sadly has to sell it for working abroad. She loves it.
not weird, just old school
Well I want one....
Once you're up to speed with the kick starting mechanism how long will it take you to start it on average?
One to two kicks, so fairly quickly. I have been able to start them several times on the first go since it has that setup with the window. The only thing that kills it is when the battery is dead, it just won't get going and you'll be kicking thinking you have juice.
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When the battery is dead? I would assume that the motor running is what charges the battery.
Otherwise I am not sure what you meant. Do you mean you had situations where you are stranded due to the battery dying and not being able to get the bike started again?
That is correct. I borrowed these bikes from two dealers where they had chilled on their floor a little too long. They let me take them out to help charge them. However, when I went to start there was nothing. The lights and everything just went dim and or shut off. Turns out the batteries had died and they had to be jumped. Since these bikes are fuel injected if the battery is out, even with the kick starter, it just will not get going. You can bump start them oddly enough, (we attached one to an ATV and towed me around the parking lot until it fired).
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How likely is this to happen and how often? I am considering this as my next upgrade bike because I enjoy the style and size of it. It would be extremely upsetting if it turned out to NOT be a reliable bike, considering the 6k price tag.
I would say that as long as you are actually using it and keeping it trickle charge when not in motion then there should not be an issue what-so-ever. These had the misfortune of sitting around too long. They are sadly not very popular here in Oklahoma.
plan to rent one of these in London, to do some touring. I'm 6'4" 280 lbs. plan to rent one for 3 weeks.I normally ride a 2012 Honda Gold wing and drag a trailer. no one had wings over there to rent.
It'll be a bit on the tight side due to your height. But it's still fun.
nothing like trying to lose 50 lbs before I go. let the diet begin
+dcijams See if you can steal one for a spell at a dealer before you head out.
I'm riding my bike with trailer from Central Florida to Maine, then flying to london. staying 3 weeks, then flying back to the goldwing, and another weeks ride home
+dcijams Gives you something to look forward to.
Beautiful lil bike!
Kick start. Cool. I think they should put kick start on all bikes. Your battery gos dead, you can still start it with kick start.
+Jojo Gun Fang Since this bike is fuel injected sadly it will still not start. The funny part was it had a dead battery when I first got there. The dealer and I had to bump start it. So the kick start was after the ride when the battery was charged back. Still a great bike. They just had that thing on their floor for more than 7 months.
***** I didnt know they would not start if they was fuel injected. I just learned something new. I had a bike if the Battery was just a little low it would not even start with Electric start. I gave it to a friends son. I hope he is having fun with it.
+Jojo Gun Fang Yeah that is the sad reality with the FI vs Carb this time. It is a great backup for bikes still using carburation for fueling, such as a Honda Ruckus, or some older ones.
+Rabid Hedgehog Actually, having carbs does not automatically mean you can kick start sans battery. The 70's Honda CB450 and CB500T come to mind as bikes that need a full battery even to kick start. Found that out when I bought a 500T last year with a broken starter and a dead battery. The electricals worked, so I kicked it for days before I even thought about changing the battery. Once I got a new one, it started right up.
+Amateur Chemist This is true. I wonder if it is how the electrical system is setup. I know some modern scooters do indeed kick over with a dead battery. And some older bikes with magneto ignition systems. But it is a good thing to note and share.
There's something very subtle I'm beginning to notice with some of these video's. When does a review become an advertisement ? I'm not saying this video in particular is like that but having seen some other bike video's I'm perceiving this overlap or duality in the presentation of the product. Heaven forbid that RUclips becomes another gumtree or ebay.
Astute you are
This or the tu250? Which did you prefer?
If I could have an SR-400. It has just enough for every circumstance as long as you don't mind the kick start only feature. The TU250 is just slightly too slow for my area where interstate speeds have climbed to 75 or more.
Thank you for riding the bike at the speed limit. That is the way that bikers are supposed to ride but reviewers often seem different.
I try my best to think of everyday riders. There's not a track in everyone's backyard after all. I do agree they do too much higher speeds and tend to do wheelies and such that not everyone will do everyday.
Break it in, it might make a difference as to the power output, It is a fine bike.
I loved it, just borrowed it for a quick loop. Thinking of ways to get one.
Around 1:20 - "Lacksadaisical" is not a word.
One who is lackadaisical may have a lax attitude, but those are separate words.
Would this be a good first bike to learn on
It would be an awesome good place to start!
Would you say that SR400 is really no better than the Suzuki TU250X and maybe not as good in some respects? You seemed be much more enthusiastic in your review of the TU250X. (?)
The TU250X I had a ton more time with. This bike was rode also after a very disappointing day on a Bolt (notice no review on that machine), and the Deluxe 1300. So I was having an issue overcoming some issues. This bike was the diamond. I loved it. I would say the little bit more of engine is what the TU needs but the TUs suspension is what the SR needs. Love them both equally and I actually reached out to Yamaha begging for a long term review machine like I had a chance with the TU and they responded, this bike is no longer going to be in the US.
@@RabidHedgehog Which bike was the diamond? TU250 or SR400?
In the Yamaha ride the SR400.
The Suzuki TU250X is better because it costs a lot less, runs just as good, has electric start, and gets better fuel economy. I would buy the Suzuki over the Yamaha even though the Yamaha is very good looking.
If am 5'5 do you recomend this bike?
Narrow seat and light weight does help, but I know the seat is a bit tall as well. I would recommend sitting on it and if it allows the balls of your feet or more to touch then it will be fine. If it is only tippy toes, then it is a bit too tall.
I really like the look of this bike, it could be a long term keeper for weekend joy rides, but not sure if the SWM 440 or the Honda CB300R are a more refined ride. Just for the country twisty roads...
They would be more refined for sure. This one has not changed except for fuel injection since the 70s.
@@RabidHedgehog I wonder what it is with these newer single cylinder models that make them vibrate a little less when pushed at higher speeds... For a second there i thought the CB300R may have been a smaller displacement VTwin, but its also a single cylinder.
@@RabidHedgehog I wonder what the manufacturers have done with these new single cylinder models to improve the vibrations at higher speeds, as I thought that the CB300R was a small displacement V-Twin, but its also a single cylinder. Anyway, keep up the reviews on these smaller bikes as it helps the new motorcyclists heaps, especially with the A2/LAMS bikes we are required to use on our Learner's Period.
If the battery is completely dead will it still start?
Actually no since it is fuel injected it doesn't have the power send fuel.
I am debating this and the crf250l. How much of a size difference compared to the crf250l? I am looking for something small and nimble.
The SR400 will have more power and is shorter with its essentially 32 inch seat height vs the near 35 on the CRF. It's about as narrow and it's a little heavier at 381 wet vs 320. Fuel capacity is 1.2 gallons more on the SR400 but you'll see around mid 50s for fuel consumption vs mid 60s on the CRF. You'll have a greater top speed with the Yamaha though at just shy of 100 instead of just shy of 80. It's going to boil down to if you want to street ride more often or if you want the added benefit of being able to go off road. And if you want a kick start only in life vs. the benefit of electric on the CRF.
Thank you soo much! good info!
+Thanh Ha if you're not looking to go on the interstate look into a grom
I want to do a comparison in June between Grom and Z125 so bad.
Do it I would love to see that, although I've heard mixed reviews of the Z125
The fact that it wouldn't start with a dead battery is kind of irrelevant. An electric start bike wouldn't have even turned over.
This one did turn over, but the fuel injection was not engaging so it would not start so it is kind of in the same boat as a standard electric start bike.
Do you think you could take that bike in the fast lane on the highway can It cruise at 75
It would be able to do so. This machine has a top end of around 90.
SR400 or TU250X?
+Sqeptick Tough call. You have the TU250X which is fuel injected as well and is around the same dimensions. It has a smaller engine for sure, and you can simply hop on and press a button and BAM started bike... However, cannot do highway riding as easily. Still can run up to the speed, but very slowly and will not have easy passing power. The SR400, if you can get down the trick of aligning the moon and stars to start in one kick (really it is not that hard I promise, that was my actual first start due to the battery being dead so super easy, Yamaha did an awesome job with the side window that shows you when the piston is in position for easy start), I would actually lean towards the SR400. I like the retro aspect of kick start and the 400 can get you to 90, so it holds highway speeds much easier. TU250X has a top out of 75 max. There are still great things for the TU250X. Identical fuel capacity and the ability to get up to 82MPG (manufacturer claim) means the little TU250 will have better range as a commuter in town. And the price difference. The SR400 is $1591 more than the TU250, so is that performance worth that much more? Sad thing is I can justify the price. With the kits and accessories that exist that can turn the SR400 from street to dual purpose scrambler, to a clean café racer the possibility is near endless as to what you can do. Love them both but SR wins. Sorry for the longer response.
+Rabid Hedgehog Interesting. For what it's worth, your review of the TU250X had a big impact in my decision to buy one. I love it most of the time. But every now and then (like if it's windy) I do wish I had a bit more horsepower. The SR400 and the Honda CB500X are two that have caught my eye. And for the record, I do get 70-90 mpg on my TU...depending on the type of riding. Thanks again, I enjoy your videos.
+Sqeptick Tu250 is a great bike. The problem I have is the whole I like too many bikes! I'd love both in my garage for sure. Your Tu250 and my XT250 sound like they would get along well in the if I only had more weight/power class when it comes to wind. This last week here in Oklahoma we experienced 60 MPH gusts and mid to upper 30s sustained winds... I felt like the XT was pulling a log behind it constantly... or I ate one too any pieces of pizza or something going into the wind, felt like trying to sail a boat with the wind to my side, but had a blast with the tailwind :) I then switched to the Fat Bob for the remainder of the week since it's made of lead. The SR400 would be really light in the wind as well I feel. I have a friend with a CB500. Maybe I can convince him to let me ride.
+Rabid Hedgehog Yeah, I'd like to see you review the CB.
Too funny, both of your reviews inclined me to picking up a TU
being 2 years hows teh bike. Just curious how it will fair just as a "roundabout" bike
This was a loaner bike and I have tried to get one for long term.
Nice review, but my eyebrows raised a couple of inches when you said it is kinda tall. I am definitely kinda short at 5'4" but even I find it to be on the smallish side! Guess it depends what you compare it to though. Yeah and power delivery IS lazy, but I don't mind, it looks cool and I enjoy driving it.
I am working on Yamaha to see if they could loan me one for a long term review. I did like riding it for sure and I love the kick start and classic feel for sure. By tall it has a seat of over 30 inches, so it is a physically small motorcycle but the seat is surprisingly tall for its size.
Yeah that's funny, I guess with the seat being quite narrow it doesn't feel tall at all. My SV650 for instance has a lower quoted seat height but where my feet comfortably reach the ground on the SR400, this is much less so with the SV650. If I'd have to go by feeling alone I would have guessed that the SV650 is at least 2 inches taller than the SR400.
You said the bike is tall, how tall are you? and how tall is the bike?
I am 6'0" with a 32 inch inseam. This bike has a 30.9 inch seat height so for people that are shorter or new they may feel uncomfortable with the way you have to hold it.
People all over the world keeps saying it’s overpriced for what it is. Maybe yes. But they missing the point.
It's simply a fun motorcycle and the cost of entry is going to get you a fun and enjoyable motorcycle that will never break down basically.
I'm 6'2" with long ass legs lol. I'm not too heavy but should I fit on this bike alright?
You might be a bit on the taller side. It only has a roughly 31 inch seat height and it is a narrow bike frame so it does not push your legs out to help absorb some of the length as well. I would still recommend finding one to sit on and check it out.
+Rabid Hedgehog yeah I'll probably hit the dealership this weekend, great video btw!
+Beastofboston Thank you! I hope the bike works for you too. They're fun.
+Beastofboston I'll sell you mine
Very good review.. My only critique is the use of "for a 400" in your performance review. Yamaha blew this beautiful bike with a down-tuned EFI highly restricted motor. Examples, my RD400 in 1978 was quick enough scare the pee out of most riders, my current DR400 Suzi will dial a wheelie on command, and embarrass larger CC bikes light to light (to compare the capability of modern single 400 four stroke to the SR400) 400-650CC singles do not need to be rough, lame, lazy or otherwise. Yamaha just took their third world'Asian inner city budget 400cc Urban bike, called it a heritage/classic etc, jacked the price accordingly for the wealthy US market, and released a doggy product. The concept of the SR400 is great. I get the 400cc tiered foreign license logic, so the 400 is cool, vs releasing the old SR500. A 400cc single cyl four banger does not need to be rough, doggy, or incapable of safe comfortable highway use.Everything about the SR400 screams "buy me", I'm bummed Yamaha only targeted new riders, and inner city traffic. Fingerhorn4... I'm with you, but some folks will actually want to enter a freeway with safe, snappy acceleration. In Texas it's not uncommon for secondary roads as well as freeways to have 70mph+ posted speed. Positive acceleration on your commuter bike is like a spare $100 bill . You don't have to use it, but it's nice to have...Very good review, the best I've seen. Great audio during the ride
Agreed, there's no reason this bike should feel slow and lazy when the TU250X doesn't. Especially with the much bigger engine and price tag. Should've made this a twin and maybe a 500. It could still be beginner-friendly and classic looking, and would've been a lot more satisfying. Oh, and electric start option.
Does that bike have weighted bar ends?
It does.
It doesn't
I really am looking for one of these for my old man. How does the odo/speedo/fuel gauge respond to different size tires/fuel tank etc? Anyone aware of best practices for these bikes when modifying the tank and tire sizes? Thank you!
Yeah, don't.
how much is need 0 to 62 bady..... nowere to finde .. sorry for my english
Close to 9 seconds. Like 8.6
I've got the real deal a 1978 2J2 SR500 🤗
I've bought 2 bikes from sehorn over the years lol. Surprised to find a shawnee oklahoman on RUclips:)
Bought my first bike there.
Hoping they bring out a trail version with this engine
XT400!!!!
The 400cc is something to do with Japanese road registration requirements
An XT400 basically the same as the XT500 only with the shorter stroke was available in Asia
@@hodaka1000 Not in the Philippines sadly
@@BritishBikerPhilippines
Right
I should've written in "Japan"
I'm in Australia where we had XT500s and TT500s but I have seen pictures on the internet of the XT400 that was pretty well identical to the XT500
Customize an SR400 and have a simple back road fun machine. All these new hyper bikes are too much.
I actually begged Yamaha to sponsor this idea to show it off.... Of course they killed the model off here in the US and I heard nothing from them... Still want one to build up
Sweet bike, but if you had one of these in the UK, car drivers would think it was a 125, and would drive dangerously around you, tailgating and cutting in, etc. A shame, because it's a real good looker.
That is not good at all. Even Groms over here are treated fairly well. What do they have against 125s (besides that they are a bit slow).
I don't know, but most 125 riders in the UK are on CBT (i.e. they don't have a proper bike licence but have taken something a bit like your MSF course instead, as a preliminary to a proper licence), and wherever they go, they have to have big, clearly visible L-plates front and rear. L stands for 'learner', and when car drivers see it they often make a point of cutting up the rider, sometimes shouting, and generally hating being behind the rider. Because this is dangerous and annoying, L-platers sometimes ditch the L-plates (illegally), but the bike still looks small (as it's a 125), and many drivers will behave accordingly. I was on L-plates on a 125 for several months before jumping through all the hoops to get a big bike licence. I think it may be a psychological thing, for many car drivers. If they see a big bike, with a big rider (motocross armour under jacket etc.) they behave completely differently. Big bikes in general look a lot more focussed (sports, cruiser, streetfighter, etc.) these days than 125s, which have more ambiguous, 'commuter', or halfway styling. That's where the danger is with the SR400. Easily mistaken for a 125.
i hope here in the phil manila that bike is for sale or wheres the company there sell that bike
I do not believe they do sell them in the Philippines unfortunately. I'm not sure what the closest country would be either unfortunately.
huhuhuh that is my dream bike i want to buy
I had a ninja 300 and a jackass pulled out in front me a month ago, I just bought this bike today
Sorry to hear about the Ninja but happy you are still riding today. I have only been tagged two minor times, once on a Z125 Pro where a lady pulled out and pushed me out of my lane and caused me to slide, and once on the Rebel 500 I currently own where the rear got tagged by the front of a Chevy Trailblazer, but luckily did nothing but dent up my license plate, but nothing like what you have had happen.
It is a very attractive bike, especially if you like 70s Japanese commuter bike styling, instead of mini cruiser wanabees and transformer sport bike Ninjas. Far too expensive for what is in it:
1. nearly 400lbs a one cyl 23hp at redline (19hp in normal riding)
2. a small tank. 4-5 gals could have been achieved with the same look
3. The Vstar 250 Yamaha makes more HP, has an electric start and better brakes
4. I think the whole appeal of this is the look. I do like the straight seat better than the mustang variants. I like having the tach too.
I have ridden a CB250, Vstar and this. This is actually not much quicker than the very conservative Honda 234cc, is louder and heavier and much more expensive. The Vstar (especially if regeared with an extra tooth) is a better ride.
This bike is all about being fully retro. The second appeal is the vast aftermarket of this bike as it is easy to upgrade and mod. I have seen folks turn these into big thumping scramblers. I have been on the Vstar 250 and due to my height and such I feel very cramped on that bike. The SR400 has that 31 inch seat height and a peg position that still works for me. But it is what it is.
Rabid Hedgehog. Agreed. It is a full 70s stock bike. The low HP on a 400 always seemed odd to me when the 250 had more. Maybe the 400 has better torque at low speeds, I haven't looked. Saw a late model T100 Bonneville outfitted in 50s style on sale in Alabama for $3800 yesterday. If I was in the market for another retro street bike/scrambler I'd be over there right now.
The SR400 makes its torque very early, about 18 of its 20 ft-lbs from 2800RPM. Unless you have numbers I don't, the SR400 makes about 2 more horsepower, and 5 ft-lbs more torque, but the dyno charts I pulled are from different sources, so they shouldn't be directly comparable. Having said that, the SR400 having so much displacement over the 250 on fairly level playing field (air cooled engines), it would make sense for the SR400 to make more power, although the 250's delivery is much smoother, so it might feel better accelerating. Having put 11,000k miles on a XV250 (with the rear sprocket swap), and owning a SR400 now I can say just from highway riding, the SR400 definitely makes more power - not much, but I can regularly hit 80+MPH, while on the 250 the wind was a major factor on whether or not I can break 80. Even being against wind, I can still go 85mph on the SR400.
I definitely think the SR400 is a bit much for what it is, but apparently there was a demand as people were importing them from Japan for north of $8k for them which is why Yamaha re-introduced it in N. America with an ambitious price since it still undercuts import price. If I were strictly commuting, and and total cost was a factor (buying and operating), I'd go 250 cruiser again. However, I also have a H-D Dyna for power and range, so I needed an around town bike that was fun and practical and had to cheap to own and maintain, and the SR400 fit the bill perfectly. For me, it's a better around town bike compared to the 250 cruisers being narrow, more flickable, and having a higher seat height, so it fits my purposes better.
380llbs?!? Even air cooled no E-start??? I heard what one guy paid and I thought right away "DANG! what a rip off weighing like it does" ...Dual sport bikes with larger motors sell for same money and yet weigh way less (60 llbs) ....meaning? For pennies Yamaha COULD have dropped this motorcycle to barely over 300 lbs at the same price point...I believe
Well, It's sadly a goner now, probably had to do with the price and antiquated tech.
Not everyone wants a dual sport motorcycle. The bike is super easy to kick start. Vintage styling without some of the headaches that come with vintage bikes
Try revving it. It has 23hp but not till 6,500rpm..
It did alright for what it was.
the problem with those bikes is no rev gauge or electric start and over priced. Have you tried a Suzuki tu250 or kawasaki estrella? Similar bikes but cheaper.
I'm here in Tecumseh Oklahoma
In Europe from Jan 2017 all bikes over 125cc must come with A.B.S.
That's kind of bad. Adds to costs and really on small CC bikes even to 500 there is really not too much of a need for ABS.
VW builds an overpriced shit . everybody is to public transportation!
Thx
It kicks over so easy I don't even miss the electric start. But hey, I'm an old fart. I cut my teeth on kick starts.
I love the kick start on this machine as it makes it so easy.
It's virtually the same machine as the SR500. The main difference is the stroke and compression. So just put in a stroker kit (yes the make them) and you have an SR500.
Why did Yamaha bring it back as a 400? Pretty dumb.
Never stopped being a 400 since 1978
@@RabidHedgehog Back into the USA
@@Charon58
They stopped producing SR500s in 1999 or 2000
They've produced SR400s from 1978 until 2021 and are still selling what I believe would be surplus new old stock SR400s in Thailand today in 2024
I couldn't get it started I am 5'3 seat height fine too bad I like the bike....yeah I ran the battery down trying to start it.
Battery may have already been weak and not allowing it to inject fuel properly. I learned that due to it still being computerized it does require a good battery to get it going. On this unit they literally bump started me to get me going as the battery had failed as it sat on the floor and we charged it for a couple of hours and we still had issues with the starting so we resorted to a bump start.
So perhaps that was it glad you can get the thing rolling to get it to start?
When I called back they said it only took 45 minutes to charge
But I really like a bike in this style and power so perhaps one will be available to try.
To bad I hear no electric starter kit is available.
For a bike that is surprisingly similar in terms of the power and such the Suzuki TU250X is a great little bike that has electric start. Like the SR400 it is not going to light the world on fire and has about 10 ponies less than the SR and probably a max speed of around 80 ish but it will run forever. Might take a look at that bike.
I tried the bike at another dealer and standing on the peg I got it started on the third attempt.
It has a compression tdc sight glass...I am recovering from an accident ...and am waiting for the price to be a little bit cheaper.I did not realize there is a primer how do you prime it? I did get it started .
you sound like a mix between revzoot and bakerxderek.
Must be the allergies :)
Not bad
Inane review, too bad the dealer didn’t also give you a clue.
I'll pass.
That's amazing as this bike is not really fast enough to pass much.