I just picked up the Big Muff Pi with Tone Wicker for 53 dollars at a pawnshop today. I've wanted one since high school but didn't want to pay full price and wait for the thing in the mail. So,... I waited fifteen years to save 40 dollars basically. Lol
Excellent demo along with great backing tracks ! The pedals are really put to the test when played along with a deep bass line and an aggressive snare drum. Which is why I believe a live performance is the best way to judge a pedal.
I really enjoy the Mooers for their tiny size, but with this setup the Big Muff Pi with Tone Wicker sounds best to me. It seems to have a bit more balls(and a bit more bottom end) than the other two. If I needed a smaller footprint I would go with the Big Muff Pi Nano.
I've had the big nyc muff for a while now but I really want to get the tone wicker to use for lead brakes and stacking. My opinion though is you can never have to many fuzz pedals
Nice, Fair Comparison. Mooer makes some good stuff. I own the E-Lady and would Never be Without one. Great Value for your Money and "some" of their Pedals - sound fantastic.
I just ordered one. I’m excited to hear it in person. The price is right- half the price of the Triangle Big Muff and anything vintage (even my old Black Russian Sovtek from the mid ‘90s is going for about $100 or more). Some of these clones are spot on.
I have the Mooer on my board. But to me in this video the Ehx pedals do sound less harsh, there is less brittle brightness to them. In my opinion their sound seems to be warmer. And that’s the problem I have with the mooer...
These are basically three distinctly different pedals. The Mooer is basically a clone of the Rams Head Big Muff, now reissued as the Triangle Muff. Big Muffs have gone through changes over the years. I was lucky enough to get a Sovtek one years ago, and an Op Amp. The difference between them is instantly recognizable. Not all Muffs are the same. The Mooer clone is damn good.
Edit: the Mooer is a clone of the reissued Triangle Big Muff. From what I’ve read and heard, the reissue has The a little of both the Triangle and the Ram’s Head. Very versatile, especially compared to the regular NYC big box Muffs (the Sovteks, both the vintage and reissues are their own animal, and better than the NYC versions). The Triangle Buff seems to be a great copy of the Muff. It got decent reviews on Gilmourish (a great source for Muff and Muff clone info), and the price is half that of the EHX, and also even smaller, so I took the plunge. Should have it by this Wednesday.
lpoolck I really like the Mooer. It’s got a permanent spot on my board. Very versatile for the stuff I play. Right now I use it for mostly grunge and punk stuff (except when I’m playing Smashing Pumpkins- I use the op amp for that), but it can really cover just about any muff sound. It can do classic rock, punk, grunge... just about anything, and it “plays nice” with other pedals (modulation, boosts, etc...). I’m a fan of Mooer. I have 3 of their pedals on my board- the Triangle, the Blue Faze, and the E-Lady. The Blue Faze is a silicon Fuzz Face clone (using the same BC108 transistor as the original), and the E-Lady is a spot on clone of the old EHX Electric Mistress. Given the size and price points, you can’t go wrong.
lpoolck they have a Blue Faze and a Grey Faze. Blue is the silicon and the Grey is the germanium. The germanium is a little darker and can be unpredictable. Germanium fuzz i believe came first and silicon came later. I personally like silicon as it’s a little more to my taste, and cleans up decently if you dial the volume on the guitar back. The Blue Faze definitely works for Hendrix, I imagine the Grey does too, especially earlier Hendrix. I use the Blue for playing Hendrix/ early ‘70s Pink Floyd stuff (it’s perfect for “Dark Side of the Moon” songs). You can get close to the silicon tones with the Triangle if you play around with the settings. But I still think there’s nothing quite like if those real authentic, velcro sounding fuzz tones, like you get from a Fuzz Face or clone (like the Blue Faze). Definitely worth checking out, especially if you play a lot of Hendrix type stuff.
If the Muffs are almost the same price, why buy anything else? (unless you want a smaller pedal board, or the characteristics of the Mooer, specifically)
I just built a Gristliser pedal I have it running through a Tube screamer clone into a DS1 copy, into a matrix mixer to run, in parallel, a Univox, this clone and an Unshaven fuzz, back into one channel through a Bucket brigade then a Beringer digital tremelo. Indescribable, going to add reverb today. A matrix mixer is great for blending FX like multiple fuzz units, infinite tonal possibilities.
+Beeastman123 Hi! In my opinion, if you have the money and the space, buy the Muff with the Tone Wicker. If you don't like the sound of the Tone Wicker, the Nano Muff sounds exactly the same. The Mooer sounds a little bit different, but not bad at all. I kept the Mooer. Cheers!
I just picked up the Big Muff Pi with Tone Wicker for 53 dollars at a pawnshop today. I've wanted one since high school but didn't want to pay full price and wait for the thing in the mail. So,... I waited fifteen years to save 40 dollars basically. Lol
Hehe, well, good things come to those who wait ;-)
Ha! I'm the same way!
you speak the truth
Excellent demo along with great backing tracks ! The pedals are really put to the test when played along with a deep bass line and an aggressive snare drum. Which is why I believe a live performance is the best way to judge a pedal.
I really enjoy the Mooers for their tiny size, but with this setup the Big Muff Pi with Tone Wicker sounds best to me. It seems to have a bit more balls(and a bit more bottom end) than the other two. If I needed a smaller footprint I would go with the Big Muff Pi Nano.
I've had the big nyc muff for a while now but I really want to get the tone wicker to use for lead brakes and stacking. My opinion though is you can never have to many fuzz pedals
@3:30 whoever says heard a difference lies :P good job mooer
They are lying big time according to my ears.
Holy shit, that’s insanely similar tone.
Unnoticeable even.
Wtf
Thought the mooer sounded better. More mids. Tighter.
@@micahsnyder7299 So so true man.
Nice, Fair Comparison. Mooer makes some good stuff. I own the E-Lady and would Never be Without one. Great Value for your Money and "some" of their Pedals - sound fantastic.
yo man..I've just bought the wicker..its off the hook! can't get enough....thanks for the demo..
The Green Nano is Very Neutral with Tube amps . Great Vid !
I really, REALLY like the Mooer. Wasn't expecting such a pleasant, vintage-ey tone.
That's the one I kept! :-)
I have the yellow comp and ninety orange phaser amazing pedals
I just ordered one. I’m excited to hear it in person. The price is right- half the price of the Triangle Big Muff and anything vintage (even my old Black Russian Sovtek from the mid ‘90s is going for about $100 or more). Some of these clones are spot on.
I have the Mooer on my board. But to me in this video the Ehx pedals do sound less harsh, there is less brittle brightness to them. In my opinion their sound seems to be warmer. And that’s the problem I have with the mooer...
These are basically three distinctly different pedals. The Mooer is basically a clone of the Rams Head Big Muff, now reissued as the Triangle Muff. Big Muffs have gone through changes over the years. I was lucky enough to get a Sovtek one years ago, and an Op Amp. The difference between them is instantly recognizable. Not all Muffs are the same. The Mooer clone is damn good.
Edit: the Mooer is a clone of the reissued Triangle Big Muff. From what I’ve read and heard, the reissue has The a little of both the Triangle and the Ram’s Head. Very versatile, especially compared to the regular NYC big box Muffs (the Sovteks, both the vintage and reissues are their own animal, and better than the NYC versions). The Triangle Buff seems to be a great copy of the Muff. It got decent reviews on Gilmourish (a great source for Muff and Muff clone info), and the price is half that of the EHX, and also even smaller, so I took the plunge. Should have it by this Wednesday.
lpoolck I really like the Mooer. It’s got a permanent spot on my board. Very versatile for the stuff I play. Right now I use it for mostly grunge and punk stuff (except when I’m playing Smashing Pumpkins- I use the op amp for that), but it can really cover just about any muff sound. It can do classic rock, punk, grunge... just about anything, and it “plays nice” with other pedals (modulation, boosts, etc...). I’m a fan of Mooer. I have 3 of their pedals on my board- the Triangle, the Blue Faze, and the E-Lady. The Blue Faze is a silicon Fuzz Face clone (using the same BC108 transistor as the original), and the E-Lady is a spot on clone of the old EHX Electric Mistress. Given the size and price points, you can’t go wrong.
lpoolck they have a Blue Faze and a Grey Faze. Blue is the silicon and the Grey is the germanium. The germanium is a little darker and can be unpredictable. Germanium fuzz i believe came first and silicon came later. I personally like silicon as it’s a little more to my taste, and cleans up decently if you dial the volume on the guitar back. The Blue Faze definitely works for Hendrix, I imagine the Grey does too, especially earlier Hendrix. I use the Blue for playing Hendrix/ early ‘70s Pink Floyd stuff (it’s perfect for “Dark Side of the Moon” songs). You can get close to the silicon tones with the Triangle if you play around with the settings. But I still think there’s nothing quite like if those real authentic, velcro sounding fuzz tones, like you get from a Fuzz Face or clone (like the Blue Faze). Definitely worth checking out, especially if you play a lot of Hendrix type stuff.
If the Muffs are almost the same price, why buy anything else? (unless you want a smaller pedal board, or the characteristics of the Mooer, specifically)
But how they sound combined?
Imagine hell, make it 10x worse; there ya go
I just built a Gristliser pedal I have it running through a Tube screamer clone into a DS1 copy, into a matrix mixer to run, in parallel, a Univox, this clone and an Unshaven fuzz, back into one channel through a Bucket brigade then a Beringer digital tremelo. Indescribable, going to add reverb today. A matrix mixer is great for blending FX like multiple fuzz units, infinite tonal possibilities.
just the shootout I needed! thank you!
Great to hear, you are welcome :-)
Holy Cow, the little one kept up with rest them....!
I love fuzz!
I thought the wicker option sounded very good. But that Mooer is great.
I got the big muff wicker and biyang fuzz star i like em
Which Pedal couplers are you using ?
I own this pedal! It's an awesome clone!
What's the other gear in the vid? It's not in the description.
Idk, the tone wicker one sounds the best. Way better than the nano.
Who wins?
+Beeastman123 Hi! In my opinion, if you have the money and the space, buy the Muff with the Tone Wicker. If you don't like the sound of the Tone Wicker, the Nano Muff sounds exactly the same. The Mooer sounds a little bit different, but not bad at all. I kept the Mooer.
Cheers!
Mooer
My bad.... there's only a snare drum here. :(
I like the nano the best
In my experience they all sound worse than the huge NYC one.
Arpegiar con un Muff? jaja
None of the above. EHX Green Russian all the way...