AITA for skipping our twins' high school graduation for the birth of our older daughter's baby?
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First story, the twins wouldn’t have reacted that way without this is a “normal” experience for them.
They brought up all the points I was going to say. It was probably the last let down they were willing to tolerate.
Where was the baby father and the other set of grandparents?
All the trying makes it worse because you can't undo a once in a lifetime. But now they know the parents know they were wrong. If this was the only family They needed to split duties. Babies are born but it can be scary for mom. Otherwise they both should have gone to graduation.
so they couldn't divide and conquer? Mom goes to the birth and dad goes to the graduation.
I think divide and conquer means something completely diffrent, but they could have done that.
You best believe the twins will always come third after the golden child and her new baby. Old habits die hard.
How is she the golden child?
@@melopsicodeliaDads are usually not in the delivery room since their daughter is 1/2 naked. That’s gross
So that means the dad stayed in the lobby the whole time. Lobbies are not too comfortable. During that time he did not even consider trying to go to the graduation. His mind was consumed with his Golden Child.
@@Lily_of_the_Forest Was gonna say why couldn't one of the parents stay with the daughter in labour and one go to the twins' graduation?
Story 1: wait! The didn’t apologize to the twins until AFTER the Reddit post?!?!
I don't think it was that, I took it as they apologized AGAIN after the fact of getting people's opinions so they could better understand how wrong they were.
Which is ridiculous, that they actually needed someone to tell them this. Older sis is the golden child. Mommy dearest protest that she loves equally too much. Cause she doesn't prioritize equally
@@mimiwhite1963 Fair belief but I do wonder if this is a repeat offense.
Apparently not
The son pulled a uno reverse and hit him with the draw 2 lmao
2nd story: Matt should NOT give back that money to the AH step dad. Even if he apologized.
The mom is equally as guilty. How can she not tell her child is being mistreated.
Also, Joe was living rent-free in a house he thought belonged to his wife but wanted to be "the man of the house" and wanted his 18yo stepson to pay for his personal hobbies 😂😂 what a loser.
They didn't have a mortgage or rent so didn't need to charge him rent even if it was his mom's house. The stepfather has some outrageous audacity demanding rent as soon as the son was 18 for housing he never paid a penny towards in the first place. 75k a year combined is pretty good considering housing is what usually eats the biggest chunk out of most people's income. He deserved to pay his step-son.
mom is pathetic. no wonder these two men are fighting for dominance. moms to weak to establish any sort of order in her own household.
Why not one of ypu stay with her and one go to the graduation?
That was my first thought as well. It would have been a good compromise, the one at the graduation could have filmed it and the parent with the sister could have texted the other with updates...
Not ideal, but no one would have been left out this way
The dad did not need to be there.
Yeah the dad probably wouldn't have been allowed in the delivery room anyway
That would have been my first thought. Mom could have stayed for the labor and dad could have went to the graduation. OP and the spouse fumbled this one.
Makes me think that this ain't the first time that the twins were shoved aside for the older sister. Why should they suffer from her bad decisions?
Why am I not surprised the golden child is the single mom? 🙄
Actions always speak the loudest. Not impressed with the late apology of the parents. When push comes to shove, the golden child will always come out on top in that family dynamic. And the twins realize it.
And to top it off, dad's initial idea was to spoil the twins afterward to make it up to them. Talk about "buying their love" and crap. Why one didn't go to graduation and the other to the birth is just wow to me. Seriously--the twins would've understood one parent going as support, but NOT both.
@tallyp.7643 precisely.
This isn't a single parent situation where it would be more understandable to be there for the oldest (given OP's history with almost losing a pregnancy), but come on, the WHOLE time she was in labor, neither of them thought "hey she seems pretty stable, one of us should go be there for the other kids"? Literally what the hell
@@TygR3Exactly, it was like they were saying f*ck the twins and let’s be there for our golden child
You know what’s funny about all this is due to the fact that OP and her husband knew in advance about the possibility of when the baby was due around the graduation date, but they ended up waiting until the last minute to make a decision. They can’t make up a once in a life time event like that and I do believe OP is hiding some more info she refused to share. All I can say is that she and her husband are bad parents with the way they handle the situation as one parent could have gone to the graduation and the other could have went to the hospital. I do generally believe that this isn’t the first time something like this had happened. I think it would be fair if OP and her husband miss the future high school graduation of the grandchild to make things even with the twins
Not sure why the parents do the divide and conquer strategy, one parent goes to graduation one sits in on childbirth
Most hospitals only let one person in anyways. There was no need for both of them to stay the whole time in the hospital.
@PandoraBear357 exactly.
And I really don't believe this was the first time the twins were put on the back burner while their sister got more support than she realistically needed.
Story 2 OP was fast asleep at the marriage and parenting wheel
Simple: Mom in the delivery room and Dad at the graduation. Dad films the graduation for Mom. Easy-Peasy.
You don’t want your DAD in the delivery where you are 1/2 naked. That’s nasty.
The parents cannot make it up to twins. It is too late. Maybe the twins will forgive them someday.
And most graduations are filmed and posted online
The husband story is strange. OP is appears to be rejoicing in the conflict and making herself look innocent. Like she loves that her son and husband are feuding. I can bet her husband was a huge bully and a*hole to her son for years, in the sun, prior to this point and she loved every second of it. She loves to see the weak male suffer. Now the power balance shifted and so did her alliances.
Op deliberately decided the husband of the situation & she allowed her son to be neglected!!🤬
Incel, the other daughter was also neglected 🙄
Wow Joe just keeps getting worse and worse. Wasteman 🚮
Each parent could have split off and in the age of tech they could have been on FaceTime with each other during the events.
I think one should have gone. Both big moments and while yeahs someone ideally the mum should have been at the birth, 1 should have gone to the graduation
story ne, so it took until the update for the parents to consider an apology, wow
Story 2- wow the husband is a dick, I can understand not being as close to him as his other kids but it takes nothing to treat him with common decency
OP said she didn’t tell her husband that her late boyfriend owned the house, because he never would’ve moved into another man’s house. That was her FIRST 🚩.
How are you gonna make up once in a lifetime graduation with your twins it's only gonna happened once and your older daughter will have more children so how really??
Story 1. Parents are full of BS.
I heard story 2 before the update. I thought OP was TA because she didn't tell her husband she didn't own the house because she knew he wouldn't want to live there.
After the update I still think she is TA. In fact a bigger AH.
Since she knew he wouldn't live there, if she told him, it probably would have come out he didn't love Matt.
I'm not certain how she could figure out he wouldn't live there but couldn't figure out he didn't love her son.
OP is TA and she married an AH.
OP is bad, but her husband is completely worthless 😂jesus christ
pretty sure this is not the first time they have done this type of thing to the twins
Why would daughter want her dad at birth, thats strange. Obviously could easily have split up,one gone to each.
The situation was only difficult because OP has no understanding of compromises. One parent go to the graduation one parent go to the birth. It is simple.
its insane to me how op asked for feedback then vehemently continued to defend herself
2nd story matt needs to stop letting his mom leech of him. Just because his dad left jim money does not obligate him 6o take care of her and her kids, kids that she had knowing her wnd her husband could not afford the life t hey were living.
S2 heard this story from the son's POV and OP is omitting facts and adding lies.
Can you please explain
Oh good I’m not crazy. I thought I had heard this story from the son’s point of view before.
If I recall the son wasn’t even aware he owned the house until the point he was demanded rent or to move out and when he brought it up to other family members venting they had made a comment in confusion about it being his house. If I recall mom (OP) was left nothing in an iron clad will and a lot of people speculate that dad knew mom was having an affair which is why nothing was left to her.
Mom and dad didn’t think to split up for the birth and graduation in the rush to get to their daughter?!? They knew for MONTHS they might coincide. Plus as a first time birth there was VERY little chance that daughter would be even close to pushing before the ceremony was over and everyone got to the hospital. I’m not buying the potential miscarriage from mom’s pregnancy on the urgency. She was at term per the original post.
there is no reason one person couldn’t have gone and live streamed the graduation so daughter and most likely mom could watch between contractions and medical checks.
I have a feeling the “spoiling them with gifts to make up for it” is mom and dads go to method. If that is the case OP has probably been emotionally neglecting the twins for years.
We love them equally we love our eldest and the whoever they are equally
One parent could have been with her and at least one parent should have gone with twins.
Story1: Bet they didn’t miss any event of the older sister. Ever! The older sister, should have encouraged her parents to go. Also 1 Parent could have gone to the graduation. They were only sorry after the comments on their post.
2nd story. Mom is the greedy selfish ah... she and her husband never should have been her sons house
🐂 💩 the parents in the story one don't play favorites.
Okay, To be fair I think this is above reddit pay grade.
I'm only a minute in.
So, both are pretty big life milestones.
Graduation is a pretty big deal, it's a big step towards the next part of your life.
But so is giving birth. Bringing a new life into the world is a huge accomplishment.
I think the best case would to have been Mom went to the birth (usually moms are in the room) and dad go to the graduation.
Did they try to do somerhing aftwrwatds, like a party or somerhing?
They can’t make it up. I don’t get how people think they can make it up for missing out on your kid’s high school graduation. When you miss a high school graduation m, you can’t go back and change it.
@@MyahUnleashed i don't necessarily think they can. Im saying they should at least make the attempt if they really want a relationship.
You can't take back anything negative in life. You can only try to improve. It's all really on their kids terms here since they were the ones hurt here.
He wanted to be the man of the house? Since he thought his wife own the house, so he's the man of the house, but since it belong to his stepson, he is not the man of the house? He's only the man of the house if the house id owned by his wife? Dude, get your own house.
Sinks all around & stepdad is the AH, but think he can also be right that it’s hard to love another man’s kid. Power to people who are able to do so!
You guys obviously have a golden child. And you can't make up missing their graduation. There is no redo.I doubt you love your kids equally. Apologizing was the right thing, but let me clue you in they will never trust you not to hurt them again. Yall are trash one parent could have been at graduation. I also don't believe this was the first time you missed one of their life events. I bet if the twins posted it would be a different from what you said. Buying things is not a replacement for missing their graduation. A fake grad celebration redo is not the same. They may eventually forgive you but they will never forget and trust in you the same.
I agree with everything you said
Yta, they were graduating high school? That’s a once in a once in a lifetime thing, your oldest could pop out another baby in a few years.
Calm down....the dad could have gone but let's not get hysterical about graduating high-school....cringe
You are being awful to OP.
Giving birth is an extremely dangerous event. About 1 in 3000 mothers dies during childbirth in the US. More than 1 in 100 babies die during childbirth. More than 1 in 3 mothers will have surgery or lose consciousness while important medical decisions need to be made for them and their baby. And this birthmother had no support. There was a substantial possibility that not showing up at the hospital would have life altering consequences.
Also, giving birth is ALWAYS a once in a lifetime event. At least for the baby, and potentially also for the mother and the grandparents.
At least 7 out of every 8 Americans graduates high school. In most places, the requirements for graduating are breathtakingly low. The ceremony is generally boring. And the graduation can be celebrated later (and almost certainly better). For a majority, there will also be subsequent graduations.
Yes. Exactly right. Let's use facts, logic, and reasoning... not emotions.
@aum1040
@@aum1040yes but the parents should’ve let one go and the other come to the graduation. Then rotate.
@@aum1040 there are docters to help the eldest daughter through childbirth while the highschool graduations for your twin daughters only happens once. the graduations happen all around the world but how many are your childeren's graduations? only one!
YTA !!!!!! You could have split the events, how dare you ssy “ you could make it up to them later!!!!! Your real jerks…. Shame on both of you.
The way you think is disgusting
It can't never be made up
this is like a situation where the wife asks would you be with me while giving birth or be with your parent during her last living hour.
It is not, because (1) nobody is dying (nothing compares to that), and (2) there were TWO parents in the first story; one stays with daughter, the other goes to the graduation. It’s not rocket surgery. (No … I said that last part the way I intended. 😂😂)
@@treco2583 its not a comparison its an analogy,
Right@@DraxXThanos
Yes you are.
Yes you are!!! And you know it..
I think there’s more to the first story
Story 2 sounds like step dad has been using matt for a while and stepson had it.
Story 1 op has seen the error of their ways
Story 2 step-dad is in a world of hurt. Good thing OG was rich.
I'm glad his parents and brother sre decent people too.
Yes
1st, So it's the moms fault. To say sorry give them both a new car for a right of passage.
2nd, your second husband wanting money from your son coming out of the blue and you didn't say anything and you're wanting your son to take back what he said and be a family you're kind of a hypocrite
Story 1: This sounds like the twins are spoiled, Even if one parent was going to attend the graduation it would still be hard for them to focus on that, when one of your child is in a life-threatening situation. I don't think I would care about graduation if my sister was in that situation. Those parents don't seem like bad people, unless OP is not telling the full story.
While yes, labor can be life and death, it doesn't seem like that was the case here. They just decided that grand grAndBaBy was more important than their twins graduation. They didn't even apologize until reddit made them, and it seems like this isn't the first time the twins were ignored for their sister.
tl;dr: Golden child daughter got pumped'n'dumped by Chad. They prioritised her over the other children, again.
YTA.
1st story nta the daughter could've died during childbirth its no joke
No you aren’t
Graduation is not an important thing. Birth is by far more important. Oh no your parents didn't go to your Graduation where absolutely nothing could possibly go wrong or any issues that happened would be embarrassment. Get over it. If anything goes wrong in birth 2 people could die.
Excuse me? Graduation is a VERY IMPORTANT thing. The sister can have other kids but high school graduation is a one time thing. I feel so bad for you.
OP should have been at the birth and dad at the graduation. Daughter giving birth would want mom there more than dad. The twins would probably want to see their father being proud of them. But twins instead of acting like young children should know by now that there could be repercussions for their behavior. Is college paid yet? Or off campus rent?
Not you trying to defend op for having a favorite child Karen
Story 1 - it's not the twins fault their older sister is a irresponsible and had a baby outside of wedlock and to a man who ran away the moment found out, if she was a strong and indedepent that could be a single mother and have a bastard she should be ok be alone.
Even if she was Married Who the Fuck to Say the He wouldn't Abuse her,Cheat on Her,Or Worse? Sometimes thing don't Go as Planned and you have to adapt to your Circumstances Do you think she planned to Be Pregnant and Unmarried? NO! Most Women Don't Plan that Shit,it Happens Cause 9 times out of 10 the Men Doesn't want to take Responsibility for What His helped her Created and On top of that Not every man Married or Not Has the Same Reaction to Getting a Woman Pregnant and what happens if there was issues in the Marriage What if they Divorce Hm? there are Two things in world that Make A Divorce Harder and that's 1:Sharing Assets and 2: Having Kids while still Married.
I was Born out Of Wedlock and Prematurely,but Instead Of My Daddy Up and Leaving Mom,He Helped Her Buy everything they Needed For Me,Hell My Dad even Insisted that He'll take Care of Everything Himself While She didn't have to Left a Finger,the Only reasons they didn't get Married was Cause #1: My Dad was in the Streets Constantly and refused to give up that life Like my Mama did. And #2 The Man Can't keep his Dick in his Pants worth a Damn. But none the Less They Pretty soild Parents even after they broke up they remained on Good terms with Eachother. So No It's not Up the Women To Get To Avoid Being Left It's up the Fact that the Man You Got Pregnant by Will Hopefully Actually Stand By your side,Be a Fucking Man And Help you Raise the Damn child.
Plus there's Nothing wrong with having Family Helping you with raising a Child just as Long as all the Parenting duties don't Fall on the Other family members Especially if you are A First Time Mother or Father. After all it takes a Village to Raise a Child and if the Child doesn't feel they Love of said Village when they Get Older they will Burn that Village Down In order to Feel it's Warmth.
So Ms.Gurl,Boy,Whatever the fuck you are This Shit you Spewing Is so far Past its Due date that I can See the fucking Mold From Here. So kindly Go fuck yourself.
The Older sister Is a Grown Woman and Most Women Don't Intend on Being Pregnant, And the Fact the that your Blaming Her For Something that Would've happened One way or Another Is Ignorant.
Plus You act like she KNEW that's how he Was Going to React When Really Men when Comes to Pregnancy are a Gamble Some Might Run away sure but other Men Will rise to The Occasion.
As Someone who is a Bastard, a Only Child on My Mom side,and the Oldest of 8 on My Dad's I can tell you Why My Mom Didn't wanna Marry My dad was that #1: He wouldn't give up Hustlin in the Streets like she did and #2: He's ManWhore simple as that and Even Though my Mom and Dad Weren't Married That's Not an Excuse Because My Dad was There For Me and Her,He even insisted on Him care of Everything for Me and My Mom while Didn't Have to Work or Left Finger and Although that didn't Happen,He still Helped Her Raise Me for a Majority of My Childhood,Even after they Broke up They Were still Pretty Good Terms Til I hit Middle School, goes to Show to you That Like I said Men When it Comes to Pregnancy are a Gamble you can't Always Gaurantee that they Are going Stay but You also can't Gaurantee that they are Going to leave Either Maybe Some people will or have Same situation My Parents Had.
And What if there was issues During The Marriage You can't always Gaurantee that's gonna be a Happy Marriage and the two things that Make Divorce Harder is Sharing Assets and Having Kids During the Marriage.
Please what if she's Had Been SA'd? cause you sound like One of those Idiots who Blame Woman Getting Assulted for Wearing Something the Least bit Revealing. So Not Only are your Veiws on The Older sister and Women in General Blantly Ignorant and Out dated but Also Incredibly Sexist. DO BETTER.
Are you sick? You're evil and vile as well as the people liking your comment. You are here being unnecessarily rude and mean, using nasty words. Why are you judging so hard the woman? And calling the baby a bastard? Wow.
You need therapy.
Even if the mom had a husband, her parents still could've made the choice to attend her labour. This is about the parent's fault and not the new mom's. Make it make sense how you're so harshly blaming the sister. The mom could've been present during labour, and the dad could've attend the graduation. You're awful and despicable in the way you offended a woman you don't know and her newborn baby.
Many partners have babies nowayda prior to gettong married, and why are you blaming her for the partner leaving? That shows that he's an awful human being, not her fault.
Also what do you mean strong and independent? Are you for real? Anyone in that situation needs support even if you're independent! Emotional support is always needed and welcome! You have serious mental problems and an evil heart if you judge like this. Same with the people liking your comment.
It's high school graduation, not a big milestone in this country anymore.
I am sorry, but if you feel like you are not the “men” of the house because of your step son that just turned 18, you might not be that much of a men. I personally am the men of my my house and always say the last words “yes honey”
Joe keeps getting worse and worse what a wasteman
I’ll tell you this right now, a lot of hospitals only allowed 2-3 people in the room. I had my ex and my mother. There’s a massive chance that if both parents go, one of them is gonna be waiting in the waiting room anyways. So one of you might as well go to the graduation
S1: one parent could’ve been at the graduation while the other was at the hospital. However, I want people to acknowledge that childbirth isn’t this this easy thing for women. There’s a very high chance of women dying during childbirth. Their child was scared of giving birth & they both wanted to be there to support their scared child. Yeah, the twins could be upset about their parents not attending their graduation, but guess what… it’s not the end of the world for them. The parents didn’t just go for the birth of their grand-baby. They went b/c their child was scared. The fact that people don’t acknowledge that is honestly pretty f*cking sad.
Story 1: Honestly, parents come off ATH. However, people are blowing it up more than it needs to be. The birth of a grandchild versus a school graduation. One is definitely more important than the other. The ATH part comes from communication. However, the end result of the parents attending the birth is the correct ending. In the end, Childbirth is both dangerous and stressful. Even if one parent attends the graduation, they won't be completely there mentally.
Wow so their once In a life time milestone is not important...im sure their graduation. Was only a couple of hours ... how long was the delivery?
They went where the wife wanted to be because of her fears...husband went to plead the wife... the twins were left to fend for themselves... won't be surprised when they eventually go nc with mom and lc with dad and sis.
@@lynnhobbs9901 There is importance. However, graduation is not as important as things like birth. The actual event of a graduation really is not that important.
There is no winning or correct choice. Lol
This was a lose / lose for the parents. The twins will always remember this. And it wouldn't be suprising with how easily they chose that this wasn't the first time they put the twins after the eldest daughter.
Sorry to tell you, but normally the dad would have been getting hyped for the graduation while mom preps for a possible longer hospital stay.
@@southernflight5078 Hardly anyone gets hyped for graduation unless you peaked in high school. Graduation ceremonies are given more significance than they deserve.
I would have a different view if we were talking about a graduation party. A graduation party is held for the specific individual/individuals. The parents skipping this would provide substance to the entire "Golden Child" situation being brought up in the comments.
Story 2: To be honest, everyone in this story is an AH
nah, the son is a chad
She was GIVING BIRTH, her health was at risk, a babay was comming out of her, she was all alone in the most vulnerable and important moment of her life, family was needed there, they wantwd to meet their grandchild, it cannot be compare with a graduation, which is of course important but they are way too different, I would have understand as a sister or brother and then I would have celebrated with my family and new niece or nephew.
WRONG
Lols
The fact that they went full cold should be a dead give away. It's obvious they always favored their eldest daughter. And whether right or wrong, this was their breaking point. Those twins said they accepted their apology. But were those just words to tide them over till they move out? We'll never know.
Um... birth od child > graduation, high school graduation isnt even a real accomplishment, you just have to exist through highschool and not be lazy, its essentially a participation award, id have skipped my own graduation ceremony if mu sister was giving birth that day.
WRONG
Say that again when you end up in their situation with your kids wanting nothing to do with you. You can make all the excuses you want, but blatant favoritism will always burn you in the end.
@@southernflight5078 blatant favoritism? Wanting to be at the birth of a grandchild
@@southernflight5078 "congratulations you didn't fuck up"
Vs "Congratulations you created a new life, and also to the grandchild congratulations you exist"
@omalleycaboose5937 damn. You really like to belittle accomplishments.
And it's pretty obvious, honestly. Normal teens wouldn't care about their graduation. So tell me, why do these two care so much? Normally, they are looking forward to the party with friends and family that happens after. Did they not plan a party for their twins? Were they only caring about their eldest daughter? Is there a history of systematic favoritism that would lead the twins to treat their graduation as the final nail in the coffin of their feelings towards their parents? There are so many things we'll never know because, luckily, for the OP, this story is written by her and not one of their slighted twins.
People don't seem to realize women still die in childbirth even in this day and age what if there were complications and it would fall to the family and friends unless given the power by the person in writing
1:14 graduation isnt a once in a lifetime... you are born once, you can graduate more than once per life
the baby has zero clue as to who was there
Wait is high school graduation really a thing is US 🤣… let me tell the truth high school graduation isn’t an achievement also not as important as child birth , seems like parents always gives into their demands . I’m also a younger child but I can’t sympathise with the twins in this case , their older sister is giving birth for the first time obviously it is scary for her
The hs grad thing is cringe but it is a big deal over there...The dad didn't need to be at the birth tho.
like if it was college/university then yes.
Do you know how many people don't graduate? Yes it is a big to people they spent 4 years learning and testing some people have learning difficulties that needs celebrating why are you such a bitch?
Look at first generation graduates and graduates rates. Then look at how many Americans then come back to this comment.
Following your logic, Childbirth isn't an achievement either. Even animals do it every day.
The point is: BOTH parents abandoned the twins after one call from the golden child. They did not even have the presence of mind to split. Usually only one person is allowed in the delivery room so the dad probably waited outside. He could've stayed for the graduation.
This first post is ridiculous. ABSOLUTELY NOT THE A-HOLE.
Their daughter was giving birth ALONE. It is a high risk event and a once in a life time event for at least the baby if not also the mother and grandparents.
Prioritizing the birth over the graduation is 100% the correct choice. I can't believe all the people who are telling them otherwise.
The kids are spoiled a-holes. It is OK to be disappointed. But sometimes it isn't possible for your parents to be at your important events. In this case, it was for an incredibly good reason. Tell them you are upset and move on. Don't emotionally blackmail them over a single unfortunate circumstance. If they were in the hospital, they'd definitely want their parents there and not at a sibling's graduation.
If the OP is an a-hole for anything, it is for raising two spectacularly entitled brats.
i really pray you dont have kids
Did both parents need to be there though? Couldn’t the dad have gone to the graduation? I get it’s important to have someone there at the birth, but their graduation is a major milestone, so not having anyone there for them would be devastating
Yes they are!!! One parent goes to the hospital, the other goes to the graduation.
@@Pikaman20008…and, frankly, embarrassing. Can you imagine NEITHER parent at your graduation, especially if they’re still a couple.
@@Pikaman20008 No. "Devastating" is going to the hospital to give birth without anyone to comfort you, experiencing hours of excruciating pain, getting whisked off to surgery, then waking up to find out that your baby is dead, and you will never be able to get pregnant again.
Only somebody who has led a ridiculously privileged and worry-free life could possibly think that not having anyone in the audience when you are handed your diploma is "devastating"
So first comment because this was posted at 2 AM