Macca... I dont think you need to apologise for videos being longer, I enjoy listening to your thoughts whilst painting or when Im at work. Longer =better as long as its not just waffling on, which you dont normally do. Was an insightful listen, cheers dude
I’m pretty sure that dreads only count for one model for the purpose of the NL trait. They don’t have bulky and they aren’t vehicles, which in this edition are the only way to count as extra models.
There is something that may put Alpha Legion Contemptor a bit higher - if you run Fury of the Ancients, you can ducktape their signature power dagger on their mandatory dread HQ, and for mere 5 points your gun+fist character get extra attack. Is is cheesy? Yes. Is it Alpha Legion? Yes. Am I Alpharius? No, You are! You also can give them Venom Spheres, which... exist as an option? It's a bit pricey (10p), but it's 6 poisoned 3+ shots (with 8" range, no AP and one time use),
My two Boxnaughts are the MVP's for me so far in 2.0; not the Lascannons Havoc's, not the Tyrants or the criminally under costed Dominators but good old Boxnaughts. 170 points two Gravis Lascannons & a searchlight.... to darn good
Huscarls are not T5 and their battle hardened only applies in melee in turns in which they are charged and were not previously engaged in melee. You do not need S10 shooting to ID them like you do Custodes or Gal Vorbak. Also, you need to either allow 0 scores or else stop using 1s so much. Nothing on that table deserves to be rated the same as Cassian Dracos. He belongs in his own tier entirely.
Really enjoying these deep dives but I think you're rating of the Night Lords is wrong as they don't interact with their Legion Trait, counting as only one model for the purpose of outnumbering. Don't disagree with the night fighting point, but this makes shooting dreads better for NLs than CC ones.
Macca with the IW combi-bolters you can change them into shrapnel ones. My liber showed pistols, bolters, heavy bolters and Gravis bolters being an upgradable options. Is there an FAQ or version update and if so is this allowed for my tyrant siege terminators combi- bolters?
It depends on the opponent. If I know I’m facing say iron warriors, I may take the firewing RoW and have my dreads be ironwing to take out his behicles
Great video, must have taken ages to collect all that information! Tiny correction about Telemechrus: he's got Hatred (Everything), which is hilarious, and only consolidates your rating of him.
Have 2 Contemptors as auto-includes in my DG list - just can't not include them since they're cool and feel in character for DG. Do want to add others though.
Iron warriors cannot take shrapnel rounds on combi guns or anything twin linked. So on a deredeo the belly mounted twinlinked heavy bolter cannot be made into a twin linked shrapnel heavy bolter.
reminder alpha legion can take the unique legion dreads, so might have been worth adding them to the alpha legion part of the chart as well as their own legions
Macca... I dont think you need to apologise for videos being longer, I enjoy listening to your thoughts whilst painting or when Im at work. Longer =better as long as its not just waffling on, which you dont normally do.
Was an insightful listen, cheers dude
Long is good mate thanks macca
I’m pretty sure that dreads only count for one model for the purpose of the NL trait. They don’t have bulky and they aren’t vehicles, which in this edition are the only way to count as extra models.
There is something that may put Alpha Legion Contemptor a bit higher - if you run Fury of the Ancients, you can ducktape their signature power dagger on their mandatory dread HQ, and for mere 5 points your gun+fist character get extra attack.
Is is cheesy? Yes. Is it Alpha Legion? Yes. Am I Alpharius? No, You are!
You also can give them Venom Spheres, which... exist as an option? It's a bit pricey (10p), but it's 6 poisoned 3+ shots (with 8" range, no AP and one time use),
This'll be interesting to watch since I'm planning to include some Castraferrums into my Emperor's Children list for variety's sake.
Whereas I just want to add some because I’ve got 7 of them 😂
Good luck, that sounds quite cool
@@toastle8005 Thanks!
This man and his boys are keeping the heresy going like its still 2019. Cudos lads
My two Boxnaughts are the MVP's for me so far in 2.0; not the Lascannons Havoc's, not the Tyrants or the criminally under costed Dominators but good old Boxnaughts. 170 points two Gravis Lascannons & a searchlight.... to darn good
The dominator cohort? What weapons do you give them
@@user-zh8dr1qt1s if I have the points Combi Volkite & stock Hammer but combi grenade launchers are nothing but lol's
I think the other good place to use the Cassian Dracos model is as a stand in for the Dreadnought King in Fury of the Ancients
Huscarls are not T5 and their battle hardened only applies in melee in turns in which they are charged and were not previously engaged in melee. You do not need S10 shooting to ID them like you do Custodes or Gal Vorbak.
Also, you need to either allow 0 scores or else stop using 1s so much. Nothing on that table deserves to be rated the same as Cassian Dracos. He belongs in his own tier entirely.
Really liking this, would love to see more in the future like Elite/Terminators etc. 😀
Really enjoying these deep dives but I think you're rating of the Night Lords is wrong as they don't interact with their Legion Trait, counting as only one model for the purpose of outnumbering. Don't disagree with the night fighting point, but this makes shooting dreads better for NLs than CC ones.
Macca with the IW combi-bolters you can change them into shrapnel ones.
My liber showed pistols, bolters, heavy bolters and Gravis bolters being an upgradable options.
Is there an FAQ or version update and if so is this allowed for my tyrant siege terminators combi- bolters?
Btw great episode
I’m fairly certain that the DA RoW only lock the troops choices into that specific hexagramaton wing. You can mix match the wings in everything else
It depends on the opponent. If I know I’m facing say iron warriors, I may take the firewing RoW and have my dreads be ironwing to take out his behicles
Great video, must have taken ages to collect all that information!
Tiny correction about Telemechrus: he's got Hatred (Everything), which is hilarious, and only consolidates your rating of him.
That reminds me of the old Black Templars’ “Preferred Enemy: All” Rule, and I love it 🤣
Ty for going into detail man
Sorry if this has been answered already, but are you planning to do the Exemplary Battle units or just sticking with the general purpose units?
Have 2 Contemptors as auto-includes in my DG list - just can't not include them since they're cool and feel in character for DG. Do want to add others though.
It's too bad Leviathans are not terribly good; with their Phosphex they are even more DG than Contemptors.
Good Video mate, Very informative about what direction to pivot my army into
With Salamanders you never mentioned they can regenerate wounds. Did that factor in?
Iron warriors cannot take shrapnel rounds on combi guns or anything twin linked. So on a deredeo the belly mounted twinlinked heavy bolter cannot be made into a twin linked shrapnel heavy bolter.
Are you planning to do/get Legions Imperialis to play, compare to old epic, or do a starting LI series?
Well on first glance I'm glad Blood Angels are an alright legion for my Dreadnought addiction.
"To go down to *poor*, you need to really be failing as a Dreadnought."
> Thousand Sons
I don't think you can change combi bolters and twin-linked HB on Deredeo to Shrapnel versions.
You cannot give aphyx to combi bolters... is that stupid the situation of the Thousand Sons...
Vorax and Castellax have atomantic deflectors so instant death is still D3 wounds..
reminder alpha legion can take the unique legion dreads, so might have been worth adding them to the alpha legion part of the chart as well as their own legions
I dont think GW is going fix the TS. I think we will have to homebrew. Only good thing going to TS is having lots of telepathy in your army.
WB's warpfire cannons have small blast, so they are actually a downgrade to a gravis plasmacannon.
No Gets Hot tho, so I'd say they're a bit of a sidegrade.
Ah dreadnoughts... the most hillarious and fun things in HH2.0.
“Nooooo, you can’t charge my Templar Brethren with a shooting Dreadnought!!”
“Haha I roll to kick you to death with my toes”
Can't iron hands contemptors upgrade their grav-guns for grav shredders? If so, are they worth it?
That upgrade is limited to infantry only, otherwise contemptors and proteus speeders would be great platforms for them
Dready daddies
*No.*
@@toastle8005 what else you gonna call a buncha cranky old goobers who just wants to sleep and tell life stories?
With what they did with Salamanders, I'm convinced GW/FW are racist
Um what?