Brass is the most important component in building an accurate cartridge. Very profound. Let that sink in. Thanks Gregg for another awesome video, brother.
Interesting. I'll probably never look at reloading the same way. But what's surprised me is I took new brass, trimmed it to prep it for neck turning so that I could kiss the shoulder with uniform depth every time. Well when I turned it I measured the length of the brass again, and lo and behold, it grew! So tonight I'm going to trim it again! I probably would have blown it off till I watched this. Because those cartridges grew in a non symmetrical and a non uniform way. Thanks Greg for this series!
The level of detail in your explanation is absolutely spectacular. thank you for creating these videos to help some of our detail oriented People better understand how things really work.
You have just reiterated what I have recently come to realize about cartridge brass. I reload to get the best hunting rounds that I can produce. I have learned that brass prep can easily make you or break you! Thanks for your expertise in explaining this!
Where the wild brass grows The brass is greener on the other side You bet your brass it needs trimmed ~Shake, that, brass for me, shake that brass for me. C'mon girl~ Sorry couldn't help it. Good video 👍
I'll admit, brass prep is my least favorite part of reloading. This series is almost as tedious but equally valuable. Ya gotta admit, it's ridiculous how complex it's gotten. Hopefully someone will think up a simpler method but it would have to be a radically different approach. We've already refined this one to death.
Thank you for this series. Question? So do I need to test how much I trim for accuracy like I do checking powder charge an bullet depth? Or is the amount of pressure the same through out the length? Thank you
Is the OAL most important…I’m not sure how to measure just the neck length! I assume it’s just the neck length that’s inserted into the chamber! I have always worked on bullet seating depth of the OAL of the bullet to be precise…hope this makes sense
Not here to contradict your opinion on brass trimming but I recently read the Lyman 51st Edition book that states you should discard brass after your 4th trim. Is that just for lawyers sake or is their a lot of examples when the neck of the brass is getting thinner and displacing the brass every time you shoot it?
So how the bullet exits the neck and how it acts traveling down the barrel is as or more important as the velocity when it comes to extreme spread. What number do you expect to see for extreme spread if i may ask?
@primalrights ok sweet thanks any recommendations for getting a barreled action? I've looked at straight jacket and alamo precision. I also wanna do 22bra with a 26 inch brux im thinking 7 twist cause I wanna build it around the 85.5 Berger
@primalrights I'll check em out what barrels do they use? Also I plan on getting the SAC dies, do you know what reamer they use or should that not even matter? I'm new to the br/bra world
Hey Greg I did get in contact with Taylor at SCR and he's gonna do my build! I'm excited for it, I'm curious on your input should I go with a 7 twist or 7.5? I plan on shooting 85.5 at 3k and I'm 500 feet above sea level
So I have a question for you. I'm going to be stepping up my trimming game and will be purchasing a new case trimmer her soon. My question is Giraud vs Henderson. I know the Giraud indexes off the shoulder, and the Henderson does off the case head. excluding price, is there a pro vs con of one vs the other?
The Henderson uses a pilot and indexes off of the base....exactly what Greg said is sub optimal. The Giraud is what he said he recommended. In the video by f-class John the Henderson had a better seating force profile with the AMP press than the Giraud but that may be because the interior of the case was affected... But what good is a beautiful seating profile when the interior of the case is made non-uniform? I think an Autodod makes a lot of sense in conjunction with the Giraud to take things to the next level.... but now you are talking about $4000 for the two. I have both units as well as Greg's CPS and I now believe I am by far the weaker link of me, rifle, and ammo... which makes the sport fun, not frustrating.
Ok here is the question. My 2nd fired brass, annealed, shoulder bump 2thousand, but when measured OAL there were different measurements. Some same, some longer, and some shorter. How would you trim these cases? All based on shortest to make all uniform? How? This is answer I can’t find the answer to. Thanks and really enjoy the content of your videos.
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Your a damn good teacher. Very concise explanations and clarity in your descriptions
Many thanks!
Brass is the most important component in building an accurate cartridge. Very profound. Let that sink in. Thanks Gregg for another awesome video, brother.
Interesting. I'll probably never look at reloading the same way. But what's surprised me is I took new brass, trimmed it to prep it for neck turning so that I could kiss the shoulder with uniform depth every time. Well when I turned it I measured the length of the brass again, and lo and behold, it grew! So tonight I'm going to trim it again! I probably would have blown it off till I watched this. Because those cartridges grew in a non symmetrical and a non uniform way. Thanks Greg for this series!
The level of detail in your explanation is absolutely spectacular. thank you for creating these videos to help some of our detail oriented People better understand how things really work.
When Primal Rights talks I listen and I learn good 😀👍. Thanks legend.
Wow, thanks
Greg, my comments mirror others here. Excellent presentation! Thank you for your efforts!
My pleasure!
You have just reiterated what I have recently come to realize about cartridge brass. I reload to get the best hunting rounds that I can produce. I have learned that brass prep can easily make you or break you! Thanks for your expertise in explaining this!
another masterclass
Thank you Greg!!
I'll be joining your membership group
Great stuff Greg!!! Well done.
Thank you kindly!
Thankyou
You’re welcome 😊
Very good information!!
Where the wild brass grows
The brass is greener on the other side
You bet your brass it needs trimmed
~Shake, that, brass for me, shake that brass for me. C'mon girl~
Sorry couldn't help it. Good video 👍
Awesome lesson
Thank you
Reloading manuals show a max and min cartridge trim length. What is the advantage for trimming to max length or trimming to min length?
I'll admit, brass prep is my least favorite part of reloading. This series is almost as tedious but equally valuable.
Ya gotta admit, it's ridiculous how complex it's gotten. Hopefully someone will think up a simpler method but it would have to be a radically different approach. We've already refined this one to death.
The only thing I would like to add is that, Your brass can turn black or Soot looking.if you 🤔 Are running suppressed.
I have never seen that. Have to test it out. 👍
Is it more prevalent on big calibers or overbore?
In the list of importance, what order would you list these items
1) anealer AMP
2) AMP bullet seater
3) automatic powder dispenser.
It’s all important… but you need an annealer.
What's wrong with trusting Kyle the Internet expert 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. He will eventually show you how to get that pressure to go out the bottom of the case.😅
Thank you for this series. Question? So do I need to test how much I trim for accuracy like I do checking powder charge an bullet depth? Or is the amount of pressure the same through out the length? Thank you
Is the OAL most important…I’m not sure how to measure just the neck length! I assume it’s just the neck length that’s inserted into the chamber! I have always worked on bullet seating depth of the OAL of the bullet to be precise…hope this makes sense
I’m looking forward to part 4.
Monday!
@@primalrights I love when presents come a day early.
Not here to contradict your opinion on brass trimming but I recently read the Lyman 51st Edition book that states you should discard brass after your 4th trim. Is that just for lawyers sake or is their a lot of examples when the neck of the brass is getting thinner and displacing the brass every time you shoot it?
So how the bullet exits the neck and how it acts traveling down the barrel is as or more important as the velocity when it comes to extreme spread. What number do you expect to see for extreme spread if i may ask?
May i ask wat is trimming tool using now? Thanks
Hey Greg what would the benefits be of doing 22bra vs 22br?
The BRA is just a bit more stable.
@primalrights ok sweet thanks any recommendations for getting a barreled action? I've looked at straight jacket and alamo precision. I also wanna do 22bra with a 26 inch brux im thinking 7 twist cause I wanna build it around the 85.5 Berger
@Forumrida38621 Stratton Custom Rifles in Delta, Colorado
@primalrights I'll check em out what barrels do they use? Also I plan on getting the SAC dies, do you know what reamer they use or should that not even matter? I'm new to the br/bra world
Hey Greg I did get in contact with Taylor at SCR and he's gonna do my build! I'm excited for it, I'm curious on your input should I go with a 7 twist or 7.5? I plan on shooting 85.5 at 3k and I'm 500 feet above sea level
So I have a question for you. I'm going to be stepping up my trimming game and will be purchasing a new case trimmer her soon. My question is Giraud vs Henderson. I know the Giraud indexes off the shoulder, and the Henderson does off the case head. excluding price, is there a pro vs con of one vs the other?
F class John has done videos on this topic
The Henderson uses a pilot and indexes off of the base....exactly what Greg said is sub optimal. The Giraud is what he said he recommended. In the video by f-class John the Henderson had a better seating force profile with the AMP press than the Giraud but that may be because the interior of the case was affected... But what good is a beautiful seating profile when the interior of the case is made non-uniform? I think an Autodod makes a lot of sense in conjunction with the Giraud to take things to the next level.... but now you are talking about $4000 for the two. I have both units as well as Greg's CPS and I now believe I am by far the weaker link of me, rifle, and ammo... which makes the sport fun, not frustrating.
@@johnwatson1651 Ya doing some more research, it seems the Giraud is the way to go.
Ok here is the question. My 2nd fired brass, annealed, shoulder bump 2thousand, but when measured OAL there were different measurements. Some same, some longer, and some shorter. How would you trim these cases? All based on shortest to make all uniform? How? This is answer I can’t find the answer to. Thanks and really enjoy the content of your videos.