Geometry Dash AI Is Fake.
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- You may have seen some Geometry Dash videos of an "AI" completing some Geometry Dash levels. But what if I told you that it wasn't actually an AI?
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YBOT has a "pathfinder" feature which is AI that clicks as late as possible. sorry, some of those videos are real, but the trajectory is just an addon to make it look more real and clickbaitable.
its not an AI that clicks as late as possible its a bot lol, there are as of now no geometry dash AI
That aint AI. I have done a lot of research on Artificial intelligence and this is not an AI.
@@BasedArmenian17-k6k there is lol. Do your research about pathfinder
@inurwallsgd he literally replied to a comment saying “at the time of recording I didn’t know about pathfinder”
These videos are fake, but that doesn't mean you can't create a real AI in Geometry Dash itself.
True we need a real one
@@NotReallyCraigworking on it👨💻
if this is not a joke video then idk what this community will be in 7 more years
Not a joke video
all AI videos from before YBot was released/created are not legitimate and manually botted unless they used a private program that is only given to special people (which i doubt they got..). there is something called YBot that is basically a really good macro/replay thing that is VERY accurate, one of the key features is the AI feature that actually puts a AI through legitimately learning the level. a suggestion i want to give to you is to do a little bit more research before straight up saying its literally not an AI. i mean, yes, i did say that the ones before ybot was released/created were manually botted (unless etc) but you still have to add this on top of the fact that these "aren't AI"
I would’ve, but I did not know when making this video, I will add it to the description when I have my pc, right now I’m on vacation :D
I know I'm very late to the party, but ybot pathfinder is NOT AI. It's just an algorithm, and even though it functions a bit similar to actual AI, there are key fundamental differences between these two. To top it off, pathfinder pretty much works by the rule of "if die then go back and click, repeat until alive enough", that's why pathfinder macros usually click super late. And if you watch a few of the "AI" videos very closely, quite often it doesn't follow this logic and does random early jumps that pathfinder wouldn't do (because it's not AI). It's super obvious on swag routes, they are added manually just to make the video less boring/more clickbaity
FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT, ABSOLUTE W
thought was icedcave
I thoight you were icedcave
blud really made me think that he was icedcave 💀 ☠️
Get trolled lmao
not AI if it's not heuristic
I totally agree with what you said, especially how it’s just a collect few (mostly botting) channels that do it anyways, but to provr your point you could make one of those fake AI and explain how you did it, instead of just listing how.
I think that during your analysis on the wave part, i believe that the "ai" isnt trying to do as little clicks as possible, i believe that if it was an ai, it would only click to avoid dying
I agree, it’s not purposefully doing little clicks, but I was saying that it would not make any unnecessary clicks/releases
As a person who knows a lot about AI this is really close to the truth
i think in order to code a true level botting ai, you'd need to make it calculate how many frames to go back when it dies as every gamemode, at every speed, on every size, on every gravity. that's just excluding move and rotate and any triggers that can affect the player. while yes, there's probably a short way to calculate all of those in a math problem and make the ai do it, no one will really bother making it until a lot of people come to this conclusion
This is not an AI. An ai will not learn the level but instead ot will learn how to play so it can then beat the level. That's why is
Its called artificial INTELLIGENCE
Nice video, I never realized that! Also can you please tell me what is the name of the music you used at the intro?
The music at the start is the Celeste chapter 2 OST.
@@DomisorusRex That is Celeste? Wow, thank you, I would've never found it by myself.
any knowledge of how a basic AI is made disproves any "geometry dash ai" videos. in most popular cases of people creating artificial intelligence for games, you need to first re-create the game from scratch (this is how most chess AI's are made) which is almost impossible for GD considering 2 factors:
1. there are no popular open-source copies of geometry dash
2. you would have to re-create an entire level to make an AI for it
also including all of the little inconsistencies in general, these are obviously fake, impossible or a waste of time in the best cases
Yeah, thats what I thought when I saw it. When doing a bit of research to see if anyone else made a video on this I saw someone who actually did make their own GD to have AI play it, but they only made the first level.
first sentence - Incorrect. you can get an estimation of a game's physics headless without needing an exact copy, which is often good enough, but even without this, there are methods of training ML bots (modding the game to speed up, running many instances). and not all bots are even ML, AI is just anything that learns.
1 - Incorrect. There is OpenGD, as verified by a simple google search. (not ported to 2.2 yet but the point stands)
2 - Incorrect. Geometry dash levels are stored as files locally, and those files have all the data of the level. There is never a need to recreate a level from scratch.
@@shadowyzephyr oh i didn't know about opengd's existance, my bad
that does invalidate my whole point but theres still good reason to believe most ai videos are fake
Bro I would’ve probably made this mod if geode was in c# not cpp. Cpp is a nightmare to use
So true. 😂
What all the comments aren't realizing is that even if a computer is playing these levels without a human needing to play them first, that doesn't make them an AI. It's really, really difficult to train an actual neural network (or even other types of AI like Q-Learning) to play a game where your only way of accessing the code is by decompiling assembly. You would almost definitely need Geode to made something that truly LEARNS to play geometry dash (if it doesn't learn, it's not an AI), and Geode was so barely known and early in development when these videos started coming out that pretty much nobody knew about it, and almost nobody was doing super cool things with it like we see today. So without this, mods had to change the game by modifying assembly code where it was super hard to tell what things did. If somebody even made an AI in assembly, let alone integrated an AI that could beat extreme demons into a game where the source code isn't public, lets just say it definitely wouldn't go unnoticed. And for those people saying stuff like " has a mod where an AI automatically beats levels", I'm 95% sure that this "AI" you're talking about either didn't exist before these videos were first made, isn't good enough at the game to beat the levels shown in these videos, or- the most likely option that I see everywhere- the mod you're talking about simply isn't an AI and you're either misunderstanding what an AI is or you're misinformed about that mod using a real AI. But if anyone is aware of a tool that existed back when these videos were first made, is good enough at the game to realistically beat levels as hard as people claim, and uses an actual neural network or something like that, tell me about it and show me your evidence, because I'd be interested to see that.
also something kinda funny I wanted to point out, wrote this whole thing while waiting for my C++ AI to train
Yeah I agree, although I want to check out the Y-bot pathfinder everyone is talking about, but sadly Y-bot is paid. Also what do you mean your waiting for your bot to train? Did you make your own GD AI?
@@DomisorusRex Oh, what I made is unrelated to GD, I just thought it was a little funny that I was waiting for an AI to train while writing a paragraph about AI, but I do plan on making a Geode-less GD ai one day. Also training is the process of an AI getting information and learning from it.
This is mostly incorrect. The GD bot yBot has an "AI" pathfinder that tries to go through the level, then moves back if it dies and tries different inputs until it works. You can debate whether it's AI, and it definitely isn't doing the level real-time, but it is fundamentally different from a regular bot, and that is what Neiro was using.
However nickxd videos came out before this tool was released, so I'm not sure if those are real. There were other attempts to create a GD bot - some attempts to make an ML bot to learn GD. Nickxd could be using a private tool or something similar to that, but because it's him, it's probably fake - unsure though.
Please do adequate research before making a claim like this. Have you contacted the people creating those videos and asked what they used?
I understand this, and lots of comments have told me about this feature, but a lot of the videos were made before this feature.
You cant debate whether its AI, its simply not, it in no way is AI, AI has to have a Neural Network and progressively grow as it fails and learn from its mistakes, that is really in no way an AI, creating an AI is completely distinct from creating a robot there is a clear cut difference, I know because I have programmed and creating an AI is much harder and is completely different than creating a robot which does the same
Additional point: the ai didn’t shit itself in the backwards section of change of scene
This seems like the kinda video an AI would make 😭
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@@suspicioussand brother you ARE the large language model 💀
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You actually seem like you could have a place in the gd community whether it be in the near future or 8 yrs away, I really hope you keep up this content and I hope u go far, glhf.
Thanks!
Yeah it’s literally just a clicking as late as possible / as early as possible with trajectory mod
for everyone who is taking about the ybot thing, from what i have heard this is NOT AI. An AI wouldn't learn the level instead it would already know how to play the game and beat any the level without any practice or learning. Otherwise its NOT an AI . Thank you for understanding
Everyone knows this already. But its not possible cause show trajectory is not on 2.2
I know most people know but I still wanted to make the vid cause no one else had and for the few people who don’t know
they can just downgrade to 2.1? What's the problem?
@@gdsosen You'd need GDShare to port main levels to gdps with mega hack
It was me, waluigi, all the time 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Tbh i dont care fake or not i just love to watch levels played in weird ways
POV, 2.2 when show trajectory is nowhere anywhere but actually ai
I'm serious when I tell you that I didn't know that, I thought it was real mainly because Absolute uploaded one of those A.I. videos.
This all started with a shitpost Absollute made a few years ago, that people took people seriously
(Also W portal music)
The music at the start is from Celeste, chapter 2 OST, not portal. I don’t know about the other song, I just heated it in the background of a R1sp video and thought it would work well
@@DomisorusRexIt sounded a lot like Portal 2's soundtrack lmao. I still need to play Celeste, I bought it in December and still haven't even launched the game xd
bro has never heard of ybot
I know what it is I just never used it, I did not know pathfinder was a thing. Although that feature was inspired by the fake videos
@@DomisorusRex pathfinder was made on accident, not inspired to those videos LOL!
@@DomisorusRex no, there were many attempts to create a GD AI before those videos were released.
YBot is a BOT not an Artifical Intelligence. It doesn't "learn from its mistakes" or have any similarity to the brain, which is the whole point of saying AI, it is simply a robot with an algorithm
@@BasedArmenian17-k6k yes, i know, its not ai, everyone calls it ai for clickbait so i just said its ybot
thats just how to play bloodbath...
i agree with you but youre bloodbath example kind of doesnt make sense because ai does whatever it wannts it doesnt care
I understand what your saying, but my point was that the AI wouldn't do clicks unless they are nececary
@@DomisorusRex oh i understand. but it also likes swag routes so sometimes it will do an absurd amount of clicks!
@@adstudios8489sorry for late reply, but I think the people who make the videos make the ai do swag routes so the video is more interesting. The ai wouldn’t just magically know the swag routes in levels
@@DomisorusRex both sides are very debatable, and the only people who know the truth are the people making these videos. however one thing i might add in proving it is fake is that "where are the 'AI' softwares coming from?" and is it actually a thing? you may be questioning the wrong thing. but as i have stated before, the only people who can be positive about all of this are the people who made the videos. (sorry this was a lot of text!😅
fr now it makes since why i couldnt find the geometry dash ai they were using
theres an ai thingy in ybot tho. great video still
By the way, there is a geometry dash ai being developed by tobyadd, just saying
Cool!
@@DomisorusRex and also one in ybot
Revolutionzing video right here
with the newest ybot, you can actually make ai beat stuff, it uses pathfinding
Really? I did not know that
@@DomisorusRex when people only see the title, but dont watch the video
thank goodness i have been waisting my time tring to get one
Why does it go down there? Because it releases as soon as its able to
what is the name of the song u used at the start of the video? ive been looking for it everywhere 😭😭
@@phkxv_games Celeste OST Chapter 2
omg tysm
ybot pathfinder:
I didn’t know about that when I made this video, that’s my bad. Also most of these videos were made before that so my point still stands
1. Its a bot, not an AI, there is a clear cut difference
2. A lot of the videos were made before this feature
i always knew the videos we're fake but i used to think they used if statements
geometry dash is older than bro
@@iceiceburr no it’s not lol
i thought everyone knew that...
I fr didn't know that
i dont know if you're joking or not but ybot has a pathfinder ai. retry this video?
I did not know about that when making this video, but lots of people have already commenting about this
@@DomisorusRex well atleast make a video saying it was an accident lmfao
@@RZZXZERnah cause a lot of the videos were made before the pathfinding feature
@@DomisorusRex thats called early access
Its still ai, the prediction thing is ai, and people bot it what the prediction thing thinks it should be playing
This video basically called me dumb
most are fake but if i finally learn c++ and stop being stupid i might make something good for once. a gd ai thats real.
Great video!!
Thanks!
the ai takes any chance to go down that it can
If it took any chance to go down, wouldn't it just click for one frame then let go everytime? Cause thats not how it is in the videos
@@DomisorusRex i meant it prioritizes going down over going up, so when it can it will, also i meant it goes down if it can go down a certain amount
Can you explain AI beats tidal wave?
Just got home and was greeted by this W
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SPACEUK XDBOT
0:45 The what mod????
Show Trajectory. Its in megahack, but it is not out in 2.2 yet.
Within first hour gang 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
i dont care i want to see them do swag routes
It's actually not, ybot has an ai
Nickxd fin a be exposed
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What are thos ligns
The Show Trajectory mod in Megahack, although it is not in the 2.2 version of megahack yet
1. Not all of that was true.
2. Are you a kid!?
?
What wasn’t true? Also I’m a teenager
interesting, now i know its fake lol
also just checked your channel, you make good vids lol
@@idioticgeometrydasher Thanks!
w breakdown
good vid!
Thanks!
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I still don't believe you
I don’t believe in your ability to get a GF (/j)
@@DomisorusRex do you want me to roast you?
It was a joke, I said /j
But why don’t you believe it?
@@DomisorusRex bro you8re a fyunioun dawg
*PromoSM*
It’s fake???
Yeah, its not real AI