Although Vince's point is accurate but there's a time and a place for what he's talking about. This convo came after the whole gang was talking about Kendrick and Drake rap feud. Vince killed that vibe and it took a minute for them to get it back. Vince was talking deep but Joe ain't that guy to get into deep, substantive, serious topics like that.
@@gunnyo50 Joe already know that about Vince. He was trying to get a viral moment of him bashing Cole. Dude too highly intelligent for the BS. He even said we either with the coonery or the real but not both.
What does that mean I heard it once or twice in my life I’m definitely black but I attended private schools all my life and I’m iffy to the main status or hot topic that was previously written
@tyota3334 a "jiggaboo" is an derogatory term for a black person.. him telling them to keep "jiggin & boo'n", in my opinion, is Vince letting them know that though they think they're being "cool", they're perpetuating a stereotype that makes blacks look bad.. 🙄
They truly lacked understanding of the concept of soft-shoe, and the context was far beyond their comprehension... Tap dancing without taps was Vince's analogy for this podcast. Vince delivered an abundance of truth, but unfortunately, these podcasts do not prioritize uplifting hip-hop culture. Young individuals do not come here seeking knowledge and enlightenment. Instead, they encounter gossip, tension, and conflict. This platform does not serve as an educational space to learn about the pitfalls of the music industry.
Has the JBP ever positioned itself as "an educational space to learn about the pitfalls of the music industry," or do they just talk about the pitfalls of the music industry between jokes sometimes? The media we consume is a reflection of what we wanna see. If people cared to be educated on the music industry, there would be a demand for that type/style of content, people would make it and audiences would flock to it.
@@ctredez2047 lmfao! You didn't understand Vince's point of my point... There's no argument about what Joe and his crew doing, everyone can plainly see that. What's in question is why do people prefer bull shit, over information that can serve them in a positive way? Also Joe and his crew have the attention of some many ears why can't they add a segment geared towards educating, as a way to test the crowd. Let's take the guess work out of seeing if people want to be educated. P.S Just because something doesn't exist doesn't mean it's not a demand for it... ✌
@@meccavision 1. because bullshit is more entertaining. That's it. That's the answer. Nothing profound about it lmao Vince even said as much in this phone call; there's not a conspiracy behind peoples attention being diverted, people just prefer bullshit. 2. There's no "educational segment" because it's Joe's podcast and he's not obligated (or qualified tbh) to teach people about publishing. Even with that, he talks about publishing/contracts and warns artists/creatives ALL the time, has been for years. Do you not listen to the podcast? If you do, why are you listening to the podcast when you're apparently looking for educational content? Lmao 3. "Just because something doesn't exist doesn't mean there's not a demand for it," obviously people who want to be educated on business and publishing exist. Those people are reading about it, going to school for it. You'd have more general knowledge on publishing than 85-90% of people on the planet if you spent 2-3 hours reading about it. What's stopping anyone able to watch this video from Googling "how does publishing work" and reading? "Lack of resources/education" is an excuse in 2024.
I loved Vince’s take when he first had it because he don’t look at beef through rose colored glasses like the older members of hip hop. He understands that attention is the biggest currency there is and back in the early days of hip hop people on the ground floor didn’t take advantage of that to this degree. The legitimacy of All public facing disagreements and issues from celebrities should be questioned.
“Yall not black like that” 💯 😂 “You was smiling though” 👏🏾 “Keep jiggin and boo’n” 💯 This man too hard for the fn radio 🎙️ Yall playin and dis 🥷 ain’t playin. ✊🏿
Agree with Vince on this. It's all smoke and mirrors and jive turkey fodder for commerce... That aside, the more significant nasty ploy at play is the AI acceptance rollout. First started with the leaks being labelled as AI. Then Aubrey himself co-signed the BS with the Taylor Made release. Whether you agree with it or not (I don't) the subplot is to make it palatable and acceptable as an art form to the masses. Thus ushering in the era of inauthentic and literal "Copy and Paste" music. It's inevitable yet interesting to see occur in realtime.
I'm just high af and scrolling thru but i agree and feel this isn't getting talked about enough. Fuck this AI shit. I feel the Pac and Snoop AI is corny as hell but most of these fools are eating it up
it’s been copy and paste. Also voice masking has been around for how long?? some of these are “cheap” parlor tricks that we throw into this big “AI” bucket..
I wish they didn’t have to speak on code cause this conversation would pick up way more traction if artist just came out and said how they felt. I just know Aubrey’s peers are disgusted with rn!
He's successful under this model - It's easier to want to tear something down from the outside than on the inside. I know Parks publishing checks are prob insane. You could tell he got defensive when he thought Vince was coming at producers.
If Parks’ main concern is White Allegiance, he sure picked the wrong entire life to live lol. Real racists purposely segregate themselves to the best of there ability from the race they hate, they don’t support, and surround themselves with them for nearly 3 decades and then marry someone of that race. The level of methodical, 4D, triple agent style racism you’re putting on parks is actually cartoonish. The dude above me is correct, the defensiveness is coming from a producer angle, it’s so blatantly obvious that it is.
Damn! Vince was right. The “pop” artist in question owes a lot of his career to certain people and I’m pretty sure he don’t even be giving a cut or percentage of any kind of publishing. This make a lot of sense now.
@phreshkidd253 nah cause he mentioned buying catalogues, only one hip hop/pop star is allegedly buying other people's catalogues ( Drake). Unless I missed someone else
To add to this context (of it NOT being Drake) he said they bought their OWN catalogue back. So I don't think that's drake as he doesn't "own" his outright but does buy others. I think that "pop" star comment was in regards to someone else
Vince takes a socratic approach to almost everything, he's not the Gadfly entirely, but if you ask him a question, or have a difference, he'll let you know his point of view in so many aspects whether providing information or asking questions, truly socratic approach with a vast mind of philosophical points.
I know Cole backed off because of this narrative. But he's gonna have the last say. Hip hop should evolve from the toxic foundation⚠️ Vince's a real one👑.
Cole gon reach his Zenith yrs from now when the world ain't drugged off the hype no more & we realize how powerful, how real, & how dope what Cole did, actually was. He cemented his place in Hip-hop with that apology, & it's gonna be 1 of his greatest moments in history. I guarantee it.
9:22 Vince fucked him up right here. Joe didn't even have a response, so he was forced to just fake loud laugh it off like a bafoon and get Vince off the phone as soon as possible before he could embarrass him any further. You can see right through him. Sad.
When the smoke clears, folk will regret this beef all the way around... This AI shit was a mistake. But... It's dead industry wise... And this beef ushered it in.
@@bryonstevenson1084 so you think it is the same when a nobody used AI and when someone as big as Drake uses it the way he did, the way it's been promoted on this beef? Bless your heart.
I have a feeling give or take a few years and people will be looking at this whole Kendrick,drake,Cole shit very differently but shoutout Vince staples he don’t give af about this corny “beef”.
He never called it corny nor said he don’t care about it , he just saying what else should be seen as important or more important , but keep acting like knew what Vince was talking about before he said it
@@iamhexoronii He clearly didn’t care on speaking about that meaningless shit and he made it known throughout this vid. Yeah sure he didn’t say word for word what I said but it seemed to be implied heavily
FUNY THING IS KANYES SONG HE JUST DROPPED DISSING DRAKE AND COLE HE LITERALLY MENTIONS THE CEO OF UNIVERSAL NAME AND SPEAKS ON WHAT VINCE IS SPEAKING ON
@@jameslight4391 drake who is half black and half jewish can have lyrics like: "Sick of these niggas, Hire some help, get rid of these niggas" But would/could never release the same song where he says jews or k1kes instead of the n word
@@TerrelleAndersonsame since the beginning... Def jam and lyor Cohen... Nwa and jerry heller... Michael Jackson literally said "You can never kill me Jew me, sue me" And kept david geffen and rabbi schmuley on a list of his enemies.
thank you Vince! well said and deeply needed! Thank you for calling out Joe Budden on that "Death of J. Cole" bs.....Drake, Kendrick, and J. Cole are three of the nicest people in rap/hip-hop history. The idea of them being involved in beef is trifling.
Soft shoe “A speech, explanation, sales pitch, or other set of remarks delivered in a restrained or conciliatory manner in order to persuade, distract, or otherwise influence someone.” I’m black and I’ve never heared this
@@ItsJaseShawty that wasn’t the quote, so you didn’t have to put quotation marks. But yeah, I know what he said and it was kinda weird for him to say that, but I don’t think he seriously meant that. He’s been speaking on Black art for years and I doubt he knew that phrase the whole time. I’ve never heard of the phrase until now, but if you use context clues, he basically told you what it was. When he first said it, he immediately used the word _”coonery”_ and we all know what that is.
@@TBtheking405216 nah its in the same lane as cooning and being a sambo. Shinin is another one. Look up dave chappelles when keeping it goes wrong he even does a soft shoe impression.
Rappers dissing each other is such an easy way to boost streaming numbers that i think these kinds of situations will become entirely orchestrated by labels in the future, if they arent already. Sure hip hop was always competitive but that competition is just a commodity now
Parks trying to defend his cuts lol like na, most other genres have session producers. The executive producer and the ones with outside clout might get the splits (ex Dr. Luke), but otherwise everyone else is getting basic wages from whomever employed them. Only in hip hop is where the songwriter is seen as expendable when it comes to the money splits, but truly only in black created genres.
Yeah I always found that weird tbh, just reading into the industry and the splits was so mad confusing and at the end the artist pays the producer and still ahs to give up a cut, you aint making no money
The producers who work with pop artists like Taylor Swift absolutely get their splits and songwriting credits. Morgan Wallen has 3-5 people with songwriter credits on every song on his album. Rappers can pay for exclusive license to beats with no profit splits if they want to do it that way, but it will cost a lot more. Producers often write the hooks too. A lot of the rappers out there would be nothing without the producer creating their whole sound for them.
Facts. Cause yall gassin Chris Brown bringing up Takeoff's death but if Chris Brown get smoked yall gon be the same people cryin "Cant we all just get along?! 😪"
Blacks people are only the Americans. Everyone else has their respective names attached to their nation and culture. That’s why at times they may call themselves black but many will say “im not black” black is not a race. Its an American label for yall.
That Part. That's why the rappers are against him right now. That diss with Snoop and Tupac on it was BS. Snoop don't care just as long as her get paid by Drake.
@@michigan48😂😂😂 any thing to be mad at Drake huh? It’s just funny because had Kendrick did the A.i shit, tunes would be MUCH different 😂😂 love the double standards yall have
6:59 except, my African, drake and now ye are speaking precisely about the owners in their disses. Drake is insulting Kendrick’s top dawg splits, Kanye took it a level up and said go run to Massa Lucien (although TDE rolls up into UMG as well). It’s not full on intra-label beef, and Cole’s tenuous publishing ownership coming out of the Roc Nation experience may be why he bowed out. But the insults have gone above lyrical miracle empiricals. As often, Staples is a useful contrarian, no more or less.
It's when Joe asked Vince what he was doing at the end of the call.... Vince was out working... about to change someone's life but had this conversation on deck while being interupted in his day. Never taking the bait - Peace to the Gods
I agree with Vince but if he gonna call out this then he should also speak on Netflix since his show is on that platform and how sometimes they culture appropriate with their content. I saw a trailer for their reboot of Good Times and it’s god awful and down right offensive
Vince’s point they didn’t seem to get was that treating it like a “sport” is wrong because they don’t apply that to the rest of the industry. The CEO of Warner doesn’t “beef” with The CEO of Sony. Only the rappers are expected to treat each other like hostile enemies, where’s they take each other down and shit on their artistry.
@@Y3nzulmao mfs more concerned with people not knowing an uncommon term, but actively ignore anyone asking what it means. This is another reason the communitah is uneducated.
@@keneg4087 but also dont gaf about the music industry until you hear these fools talk about it...if you did you would know who the president of UMG is with minimal reaserch...not like it was a secret
Nah Parks was right. The "hip-hop producer" IS a songwriter, no doubt. In the past, "the writer" was the person or people who created the music or the wrote the lyrics and the producer was overseeing the whole thing. Like a movie director. In hip-hop, the producer is the one who writes the music. The hip-hop producer absolutely deserves the same royalties as a writer.
Producers get 50% because there are artists that come in and lay the 8 or 16 in the slot and go on to the next song. Producers were getting robbed by labels too. Y'all can never stay focused on who is actually in your pockets.
Vince made salient points. But considering the _actual_ hip hop fan base is mostly white kids, & youth in general, he’s shouting at the sky here. They.Couldn’t. Care. Less. About Black folk on the business side. Tbh…the trajectory hip hop has been on has been evident since the 90’s. Might as well enjoy alllll these swan songs disguised as battle raps
Shout out to Vince for keeping it 100.
Vince they uncle now! Teaching old dogs the man's tricks! It's always fun to hear Vince just say what's on his mind
5:30 he's talking about Drake as a pop star not fully compensating his writers and producers
Since day 1
And I'm a 80s baby
"keep on shucking and jivin" 😂...those laughs to deflect the real were amazing.
Vince was speaking way too much truth and realness. Everything he said is poignant and pivotal.
Bro you sound like a bot right now😂
@@thedoctor2085 oh okay😅😅🤣🤣
@SilverJoystix Relax man, I was just kidding with bro
Vince a cornball 😂😂😂
@@thedoctor2085nah you just wanted to be on beef 😂
Vince Staples exposed capitalism and white supremacy in hip-hop music, and the gatekeepers acted exactly like you expected them to.
bingo
real shit
How tf you “expose capitalism” lmao
Real
Thought I was the only one to notice
Vince was right the whole time
No, drake is right
Bout what? He say something about what vince said?
@@jacobjunior848zip up Drake pants when u done
No he's doing the cali thing
@@zzzzzz810he never stops
Vince had them thinking instead of just talking. Parks was highly upset
Although Vince's point is accurate but there's a time and a place for what he's talking about. This convo came after the whole gang was talking about Kendrick and Drake rap feud. Vince killed that vibe and it took a minute for them to get it back. Vince was talking deep but Joe ain't that guy to get into deep, substantive, serious topics like that.
so basicay vince suppose to dumb down his intelligence for a group of people who are never serious in deep dives unless its shitty rap pop😂
Agreed.....💯
@@gunnyo50 Joe already know that about Vince. He was trying to get a viral moment of him bashing Cole. Dude too highly intelligent for the BS. He even said we either with the coonery or the real but not both.
imagine "just talking" without thinking. what a world we live in.
"Keep Jiggin & Boo'n"😂
He the goat for that
+ "we need y'all" a wild follow up
What does that mean I heard it once or twice in my life I’m definitely black but I attended private schools all my life and I’m iffy to the main status or hot topic that was previously written
@tyota3334 a "jiggaboo" is an derogatory term for a black person.. him telling them to keep "jiggin & boo'n", in my opinion, is Vince letting them know that though they think they're being "cool", they're perpetuating a stereotype that makes blacks look bad.. 🙄
@@tyota3334 just Google “Jiggaboo” and thank me later 😉 it’s a deep history behind it.
That soft shoe shit was lit how he brought it back at the end. Dawg talkin that real fr
Vince ate them up
Had them silent
@@iam_nell So nice hearing not a peep out of these nerds
@@bailey5726 💯
@@bailey5726yes
Vince droppin jewelry
Vince is a funny dude with a very good head on his shoulders. My African.
Bay Area Lingo 5-10 years old
As an African you people need to not claim us we sold you
He has a good heart
@@eddiemac-637now a lot of us are living way better than y’all…to each it’s own muthasucka 🙃👍🏿
@@eddiemac-637you arent an African. Stop frontin
They truly lacked understanding of the concept of soft-shoe, and the context was far beyond their comprehension... Tap dancing without taps was Vince's analogy for this podcast. Vince delivered an abundance of truth, but unfortunately, these podcasts do not prioritize uplifting hip-hop culture. Young individuals do not come here seeking knowledge and enlightenment. Instead, they encounter gossip, tension, and conflict. This platform does not serve as an educational space to learn about the pitfalls of the music industry.
Has the JBP ever positioned itself as "an educational space to learn about the pitfalls of the music industry," or do they just talk about the pitfalls of the music industry between jokes sometimes?
The media we consume is a reflection of what we wanna see. If people cared to be educated on the music industry, there would be a demand for that type/style of content, people would make it and audiences would flock to it.
@@ctredez2047 lmfao! You didn't understand Vince's point of my point... There's no argument about what Joe and his crew doing, everyone can plainly see that. What's in question is why do people prefer bull shit, over information that can serve them in a positive way? Also Joe and his crew have the attention of some many ears why can't they add a segment geared towards educating, as a way to test the crowd. Let's take the guess work out of seeing if people want to be educated.
P.S Just because something doesn't exist doesn't mean it's not a demand for it... ✌
@@meccavision 1. because bullshit is more entertaining. That's it. That's the answer. Nothing profound about it lmao Vince even said as much in this phone call; there's not a conspiracy behind peoples attention being diverted, people just prefer bullshit.
2. There's no "educational segment" because it's Joe's podcast and he's not obligated (or qualified tbh) to teach people about publishing. Even with that, he talks about publishing/contracts and warns artists/creatives ALL the time, has been for years. Do you not listen to the podcast? If you do, why are you listening to the podcast when you're apparently looking for educational content? Lmao
3. "Just because something doesn't exist doesn't mean there's not a demand for it," obviously people who want to be educated on business and publishing exist. Those people are reading about it, going to school for it. You'd have more general knowledge on publishing than 85-90% of people on the planet if you spent 2-3 hours reading about it. What's stopping anyone able to watch this video from Googling "how does publishing work" and reading? "Lack of resources/education" is an excuse in 2024.
@@ctredez2047you lame for writing all this
@@nicblank09 you should find out if there's an afterlife.
Nothing like a Vince Staples phone call.😂😂😂😂😂
Vince really know how to break people's arguments down to size. Brother was preaching
Chuuuch!
To the organic compound my African !!
I loved Vince’s take when he first had it because he don’t look at beef through rose colored glasses like the older members of hip hop. He understands that attention is the biggest currency there is and back in the early days of hip hop people on the ground floor didn’t take advantage of that to this degree. The legitimacy of All public facing disagreements and issues from celebrities should be questioned.
Vince is the only person off topic and on topic at the same time. Vince, is that guy lol
I don't know anyone that can take as many sharp lefts as Vince does and STILL somehow be right, he needs to be studied asap
Ayyyy name twin ✊🏾
Vince made me reconsider my stance. And i appreciate that.
When you said he made you reconsider your stance, what did you mean?
“Yall not black like that” 💯 😂
“You was smiling though” 👏🏾
“Keep jiggin and boo’n” 💯
This man too hard for the fn radio 🎙️
Yall playin and dis 🥷 ain’t playin. ✊🏿
You can’t surprise call Vince and be annoyed he isn’t on topic. Dude be on another planet sometimes lol
They did Vince like Huey Freeman lol
Facts
Vince Staples & Bill Burr: my spirit animals 🫡🤙🏾💜
Thats the worst line up 🫢🤮
Lol both of them would hate that sentence icl
@@SayianPrince94that’s a great line up both are really level headed
On god
Two real individuals. Yessir 🫡
Agree with Vince on this. It's all smoke and mirrors and jive turkey fodder for commerce...
That aside, the more significant nasty ploy at play is the AI acceptance rollout.
First started with the leaks being labelled as AI. Then Aubrey himself co-signed the BS with the Taylor Made release.
Whether you agree with it or not (I don't) the subplot is to make it palatable and acceptable as an art form to the masses. Thus ushering in the era of inauthentic and literal "Copy and Paste" music. It's inevitable yet interesting to see occur in realtime.
A deeper, darker criminal link is at work here
I'm just high af and scrolling thru but i agree and feel this isn't getting talked about enough. Fuck this AI shit. I feel the Pac and Snoop AI is corny as hell but most of these fools are eating it up
The actual music has been copy and paste for the last few yrs though. All theses new artists sound alike. At this point might as well be A.I.
it’s been copy and paste. Also voice masking has been around for how long?? some of these are “cheap” parlor tricks that we throw into this big “AI” bucket..
I wish they didn’t have to speak on code cause this conversation would pick up way more traction if artist just came out and said how they felt. I just know Aubrey’s peers are disgusted with rn!
This is the energy we need, direct and to the point.
Parks allegiance to the white power structure is showing here.
He's successful under this model - It's easier to want to tear something down from the outside than on the inside. I know Parks publishing checks are prob insane. You could tell he got defensive when he thought Vince was coming at producers.
If Parks’ main concern is White Allegiance, he sure picked the wrong entire life to live lol. Real racists purposely segregate themselves to the best of there ability from the race they hate, they don’t support, and surround themselves with them for nearly 3 decades and then marry someone of that race. The level of methodical, 4D, triple agent style racism you’re putting on parks is actually cartoonish. The dude above me is correct, the defensiveness is coming from a producer angle, it’s so blatantly obvious that it is.
@@kennethfocarino7075not true.
@@shafsteryellow which part?
@@shafsteryellow If you believe Parks is racist, do you think any white person isn’t? In your mind, is it even possible?
“Keep jigging and booing”
"my African"😂
Better den “my niggah”
You need help
Cali lingo
@@fernikiddblack man lingo
@ThaBullRing he said both though
Damn! Vince was right. The “pop” artist in question owes a lot of his career to certain people and I’m pretty sure he don’t even be giving a cut or percentage of any kind of publishing. This make a lot of sense now.
was he talking about Tyler the Creator?
@phreshkidd253 nah cause he mentioned buying catalogues, only one hip hop/pop star is allegedly buying other people's catalogues ( Drake). Unless I missed someone else
@@phreshkidd253 I think he was referring to Beyonce...because this has been said about her recently
To add to this context (of it NOT being Drake) he said they bought their OWN catalogue back. So I don't think that's drake as he doesn't "own" his outright but does buy others. I think that "pop" star comment was in regards to someone else
Well if they selling they cut for a price then y should they get any of the publishing
VINCE "MIC DROP" STAPLES
😅😅😅Real talk
Vince takes a socratic approach to almost everything, he's not the Gadfly entirely, but if you ask him a question, or have a difference, he'll let you know his point of view in so many aspects whether providing information or asking questions, truly socratic approach with a vast mind of philosophical points.
I know Cole backed off because of this narrative. But he's gonna have the last say. Hip hop should evolve from the toxic foundation⚠️ Vince's a real one👑.
Cole gon reach his Zenith yrs from now when the world ain't drugged off the hype no more & we realize how powerful, how real, & how dope what Cole did, actually was. He cemented his place in Hip-hop with that apology, & it's gonna be 1 of his greatest moments in history. I guarantee it.
Cole apologized for clout
@@sdott9751or maybe he just dont gaf bout it for reason that Vince are explaining here. It’s more shi to worry bout
@@kingjoe4893 yeah that be true if Cole wasn't talking shit in the first place.
@@sdott9751 that caused the opposite of clout and I dont see how it could be otherwise.
9:22 Vince fucked him up right here. Joe didn't even have a response, so he was forced to just fake loud laugh it off like a bafoon and get Vince off the phone as soon as possible before he could embarrass him any further. You can see right through him. Sad.
When the smoke clears, folk will regret this beef all the way around... This AI shit was a mistake. But... It's dead industry wise... And this beef ushered it in.
Drake opened a can of worms with that. I'm suspicious as to why he decided to normalize AI BS
@@dabrownonehe made one song doing it goddamn relax 😂😂😂
@@PaperChaserLa everything starts with just one though🤣
@@queenofbuttercreampeople were doing AI before Drake stop it😂 Y'all nerds
@@bryonstevenson1084 so you think it is the same when a nobody used AI and when someone as big as Drake uses it the way he did, the way it's been promoted on this beef? Bless your heart.
“Keep Jigging and Booing” was crazy!!!😂😂😂😂
Vince is fuccin brilliant!!! To bring it back around to explain soft show and prove his point in rare form. I gave a standing ovation 😂
I have a feeling give or take a few years and people will be looking at this whole Kendrick,drake,Cole shit very differently but shoutout Vince staples he don’t give af about this corny “beef”.
I already look it at differently now. I hope it don’t take people too long to wake up.
Especially with albums dropping around it
He never called it corny nor said he don’t care about it , he just saying what else should be seen as important or more important , but keep acting like knew what Vince was talking about before he said it
@@iamhexoronii He clearly didn’t care on speaking about that meaningless shit and he made it known throughout this vid. Yeah sure he didn’t say word for word what I said but it seemed to be implied heavily
They won't they will keep repeating the same thing.
This is why I love Vince Staples. He was raised by some upstanding blackmen who I can tell had their own mind and were advanced thinkers
Beautiful moment, thank you Vince. Well done
FUNY THING IS KANYES SONG HE JUST DROPPED DISSING DRAKE AND COLE HE LITERALLY MENTIONS THE CEO OF UNIVERSAL NAME AND SPEAKS ON WHAT VINCE IS SPEAKING ON
Stop. We supposed to hate Kanye
@@rajuansharief yah b.b...but he is "anti-Semitic"
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@@jameslight4391 drake who is half black and half jewish can have lyrics like:
"Sick of these niggas,
Hire some help, get rid of these niggas"
But would/could never release the same song where he says jews or k1kes instead of the n word
@@TerrelleAndersonsame since the beginning... Def jam and lyor Cohen... Nwa and jerry heller...
Michael Jackson literally said
"You can never kill me
Jew me, sue me"
And kept david geffen and rabbi schmuley on a list of his enemies.
Vince has a good heart
Vince is 100 percent facts
“make sure when you shuck and jive, you pour the salt on the ground”
thank you Vince! well said and deeply needed! Thank you for calling out Joe Budden on that "Death of J. Cole" bs.....Drake, Kendrick, and J. Cole are three of the nicest people in rap/hip-hop history. The idea of them being involved in beef is trifling.
Vince is scary smart
“An older wiseman can still learn a lot from a younger mind”
Vince gave me some homework to research 🙏🏾🎧
This Was A Powerful Message I Felt Everything He Was Saying 💯❗️
Soft shoe “A speech, explanation, sales pitch, or other set of remarks delivered in a restrained or conciliatory manner in order to persuade, distract, or otherwise influence someone.” I’m black and I’ve never heared this
Being black doesn’t give you automatic knowledge of the definitions of terms you’ve never heard before 😂. It’s not a common phrase that people use
@@BrotherMalMusic I know but he said “ you not black foreal if you don’t know what a soft shoe is”
@@ItsJaseShawty that wasn’t the quote, so you didn’t have to put quotation marks. But yeah, I know what he said and it was kinda weird for him to say that, but I don’t think he seriously meant that. He’s been speaking on Black art for years and I doubt he knew that phrase the whole time. I’ve never heard of the phrase until now, but if you use context clues, he basically told you what it was. When he first said it, he immediately used the word _”coonery”_ and we all know what that is.
It's sound like some Cali shit. You got 4 New Yorkers and a Canadian on that panel.
@@TBtheking405216 nah its in the same lane as cooning and being a sambo. Shinin is another one. Look up dave chappelles when keeping it goes wrong he even does a soft shoe impression.
Rappers dissing each other is such an easy way to boost streaming numbers that i think these kinds of situations will become entirely orchestrated by labels in the future, if they arent already. Sure hip hop was always competitive but that competition is just a commodity now
Vince is soooo Cali 💯
Parks trying to defend his cuts lol like na, most other genres have session producers. The executive producer and the ones with outside clout might get the splits (ex Dr. Luke), but otherwise everyone else is getting basic wages from whomever employed them. Only in hip hop is where the songwriter is seen as expendable when it comes to the money splits, but truly only in black created genres.
Yeah I always found that weird tbh, just reading into the industry and the splits was so mad confusing and at the end the artist pays the producer and still ahs to give up a cut, you aint making no money
The producers who work with pop artists like Taylor Swift absolutely get their splits and songwriting credits. Morgan Wallen has 3-5 people with songwriter credits on every song on his album. Rappers can pay for exclusive license to beats with no profit splits if they want to do it that way, but it will cost a lot more. Producers often write the hooks too. A lot of the rappers out there would be nothing without the producer creating their whole sound for them.
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Vince was right, never trust a signed artist, they'll cut you out of publishing and credits, fockem!!
Facts. Cause yall gassin Chris Brown bringing up Takeoff's death but if Chris Brown get smoked yall gon be the same people cryin "Cant we all just get along?! 😪"
Bhris brown didn't diss takeoff tho... He actually bigged him up 👆
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He didn't mention J Prince so he ain't finna die.
@@TBtheking405216 😂😂
Vince speaking that uncomfortable truth! lol got em shook. I like 2024
I love how lost queens flip was it show the difference in culture from black American from foreign blacks
Blacks people are only the Americans. Everyone else has their respective names attached to their nation and culture. That’s why at times they may call themselves black but many will say “im not black” black is not a race. Its an American label for yall.
Okay lol
We want to see artist vs artist, not artist vs label. Listen to this man.
Two things can be true: Drop a diss record and own the publishing of the record.
Why Diss?
You really missed the point
Vince always dropping gems!
Vince basically said Drake is on some bs
That Part. That's why the rappers are against him right now. That diss with Snoop and Tupac on it was BS. Snoop don't care just as long as her get paid by Drake.
How? Drake didn't start this Kendrick did
@@michigan48😂😂😂 any thing to be mad at Drake huh? It’s just funny because had Kendrick did the A.i shit, tunes would be MUCH different 😂😂 love the double standards yall have
Drake got a whole blackface photo out here. I look sideways at any black person that supports him.
he did it cowardly
6:59 except, my African, drake and now ye are speaking precisely about the owners in their disses. Drake is insulting Kendrick’s top dawg splits, Kanye took it a level up and said go run to Massa Lucien (although TDE rolls up into UMG as well).
It’s not full on intra-label beef, and Cole’s tenuous publishing ownership coming out of the Roc Nation experience may be why he bowed out. But the insults have gone above lyrical miracle empiricals. As often, Staples is a useful contrarian, no more or less.
Make sure when yall shuckin and jivin make sure there's some salt on the ground.. and they glossed past it.
JOE BRING HIM BACK
Protect Vince 🙌🏽
Vince is the MVP…talk it..!
The way everyone shuts up when Vince says anything 🗣️‼️💯✅
Halfway thru this..... Excellent points Vic! ......👏👏
Masssa like a soft shoe 😂😂😂
It wasn't dark, it was truth.
God bless the sober wisdom of Vince Staples
Vince threw shots at drake without throwing shots at drake I'm jus sayin
No he didn't, that's just how you are taking it because you don't like Drake
It's when Joe asked Vince what he was doing at the end of the call.... Vince was out working... about to change someone's life but had this conversation on deck while being interupted in his day. Never taking the bait - Peace to the Gods
Vince always dropping jewels
I agree with Vince but if he gonna call out this then he should also speak on Netflix since his show is on that platform and how sometimes they culture appropriate with their content. I saw a trailer for their reboot of Good Times and it’s god awful and down right offensive
Bruh that dont got nothing to do with anything 😂
@@822I79Iyes it does, if he’s calling out one industry making money off of black people then call out the other industry who does it as well
Vince got asthma he gon run outta breath calling out everything that took advantage of blacks
Vince mental is elite.🔥🔥🔥🔥
Vince is TALKING FACTS !!!!!!
Parks coulda just stayed quiet this time
Vince’s point they didn’t seem to get was that treating it like a “sport” is wrong because they don’t apply that to the rest of the industry. The CEO of Warner doesn’t “beef” with The CEO of Sony. Only the rappers are expected to treat each other like hostile enemies, where’s they take each other down and shit on their artistry.
Grown black men who don't know what soft shoe is. We are lost
What does it mean tho????
This was so concerning. Especially when they fake want to kick knowledge. Speaks volumes.
@@Y3nzu Tap dancing around issues involving White people by excluding them from blame and\taking up for them unnecessarily.
@@Y3nzulmao mfs more concerned with people not knowing an uncommon term, but actively ignore anyone asking what it means.
This is another reason the communitah is uneducated.
I'm saying them brothas look upper 30s and 40s how tf yall haven't heard bout the minstrel Era smh
Love how they just cut parks off at the end lol
Vince literally a genius.
Ye calls out Lucian and UMG and gets called a jealous Drake hater.
he never called them out, he just said their name...he didnt say shit about them
@@BBWatson100We know his name now…he called him out! Stop it
@@ethanhuntemcee1663 everybody already knew his name tf hes a public figure lmao
@@BBWatson100I didn’t know him and the common listener wouldn’t either or know he’s linked to Drake
@@keneg4087 but also dont gaf about the music industry until you hear these fools talk about it...if you did you would know who the president of UMG is with minimal reaserch...not like it was a secret
Someone mentioned not being able to share this video on facebook and he was right!!!
Vince cold af
VINCE IS A MONSTER. Shout OUT TO JOE for giving him the platform so we can hear it. This is REAL MEDIA! 🎉🎉❤❤
Every word Vince said was a gem
😂😂😂😂😂😂 Vince ain't playing with you Joe!
Vince is hilarious
Parks feelings are hurt 😂😂
He was mad 😠 mad 😡
I don’t even understand why he was mad
Nah Parks was right. The "hip-hop producer" IS a songwriter, no doubt.
In the past, "the writer" was the person or people who created the music or the wrote the lyrics and the producer was overseeing the whole thing. Like a movie director.
In hip-hop, the producer is the one who writes the music. The hip-hop producer absolutely deserves the same royalties as a writer.
@@Eli-ss9gjwhere was Parks mad? Do y'all not know what an angry person sounds like?
Parks disagreed bc he's a Producer.
Vince is a voice
Salute to you, Vince. 💯
Joe damn sure didn't know what soft shoe was 😂😂😂😂
I’m not gone lie Parks, this wasn’t for you to speak on 😂
Why? He’s a producer
"Heavy brained ass ninja." lmaooo
Vice right tho
THIS was a great explaination...what a fantastic take?...thank you JPB for allowing Vince to speak...Ask Parks how current?
Producers get 50% because there are artists that come in and lay the 8 or 16 in the slot and go on to the next song. Producers were getting robbed by labels too. Y'all can never stay focused on who is actually in your pockets.
Vince made salient points.
But considering the _actual_ hip hop fan base is mostly white kids, & youth in general, he’s shouting at the sky here.
They.Couldn’t. Care. Less. About Black folk on the business side.
Tbh…the trajectory hip hop has been on has been evident since the 90’s.
Might as well enjoy alllll these swan songs disguised as battle raps
This is what we NEED to know!
Jiggin’ and boo’n got me weak!
ATE. THAT. UP.
He's on point with the AI. It's a big shift in music and they having drake promoting AI music.
That's why the other rappers coming after him. Along with other shady 💩 he's done. They want his azz out of there go back to acting.
It was always going to happen it's best to adapt or you will be left behind
Holy shiddd Vince went crazy.
Vince gave these older gentlemen and lady a wake up call on how GROWN BLACK PEOPLE should be guiding the conversation and thinking of their audience.