The Consequences of Faith - Sarah Morehead - ReasonFest 2014
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Thank you.
Humans create gods in their own images, and biases, and fears and prejudices. And many have a hard time letting that go. Some dangerously so.
The Road Less Travelled did it for me. Haven't looked back. Plus my then pastor was bereft of empathy during my trauma.
For me it was Mark Twain's "Letters From the Earth" in Junior High and I have become an increasingly informed atheist.
I believed completely that God would bring me a husband. I became an atheist at 40, single and with a smidge of anger that the belief I was raised with encouraged me to be passive in my love life.
An excellent presentation by Ms. Morehead.
Hi, I'm not certain but imagine that Lifton's 8 criteria for mind control were built off the following. (from an article I stumbled upon a few years ago on 'Psychology Today' web magazine. (I added religious comment)
The 5 Basic Human Fears
…and it’s no coincidence that religion takes full advantage of them…
Extinction - fear of annihilation, of ceasing to exist. This is a more fundamental way to express it than just calling it the "fear of death". The idea of no longer being arouses a primary existential anxiety in all normal humans. Consider that panicky feeling you get when you look over the edge of a high building.
Mutilation - fear of losing any part of our precious bodily structure; the thought of having our body's boundaries invaded, or of losing the integrity of any organ, body part, or natural function. For example, anxiety about animals, such as bugs, spiders, snakes, and other creepy things arises from fear of mutilation.
Loss of Autonomy - fear of being immobilized, paralysed, restricted, enveloped, overwhelmed, entrapped, imprisoned, smothered, or controlled by circumstances. In a physical form, it's sometimes known as claustrophobia, but it also extends to social interactions and relationships.
Separation - fear of abandonment, rejection, and loss of connectedness - of becoming a non-person - not wanted, respected, or valued by anyone else. The "silent treatment," when imposed by a group, can have a devastating psychological effect on the targeted person.
Ego-death - fear of humiliation, shame, or any other mechanism of profound self-disapproval that threatens the loss of integrity of the Self; fear of the shattering or disintegration of one's constructed sense of lovability, capability, and worthiness.
Very interesting! I was raised in a smaller Christian sect. Getting out as a 17 years old was still quite difficult. But I did not fall out of my whole world. In the contrary: I fell out INTO the world, which is probably easier...
Makes me feel positive and optimistic to hear how that lady was able to walk tall and find her way! I admire her!
oo really wish she had had more time, importan and interesting stuff
Wow. A great presentation by someone who has really been through the mill. One of the best deconversion stories ever.
Hi, I'm not certain but imagine that Lifton's 8 criteria for mind control were built off the following. (from an article I stumbled upon a few years ago on 'Psychology Today' web magazine. (I added religious comment)
The 5 Basic Human Fears
…and it’s no coincidence that religion takes full advantage of them…
Extinction - fear of annihilation, of ceasing to exist. This is a more fundamental way to express it than just calling it the "fear of death". The idea of no longer being arouses a primary existential anxiety in all normal humans. Consider that panicky feeling you get when you look over the edge of a high building.
Mutilation - fear of losing any part of our precious bodily structure; the thought of having our body's boundaries invaded, or of losing the integrity of any organ, body part, or natural function. For example, anxiety about animals, such as bugs, spiders, snakes, and other creepy things arises from fear of mutilation.
Loss of Autonomy - fear of being immobilized, paralysed, restricted, enveloped, overwhelmed, entrapped, imprisoned, smothered, or controlled by circumstances. In a physical form, it's sometimes known as claustrophobia, but it also extends to social interactions and relationships.
Separation - fear of abandonment, rejection, and loss of connectedness - of becoming a non-person - not wanted, respected, or valued by anyone else. The "silent treatment," when imposed by a group, can have a devastating psychological effect on the targeted person.
Ego-death - fear of humiliation, shame, or any other mechanism of profound self-disapproval that threatens the loss of integrity of the Self; fear of the shattering or disintegration of one's constructed sense of lovability, capability, and worthiness.
Thank you for this!
I had missionaries at my door once say," you need God to save you from devil, and this wicked world".
I said who created the devil, (of course then came a lecture about free will)..I said.,
"yes but who used their free will to create the devil, and why do that , if your all knowing
in the first place?"..they quickly moved on to the next house, hopefully I spurred some thought
on that point/topic, ..but probly not, they had a job to do, spread the word.
+Brian Linville A prudent response on your part well done.............most of these individuals are excited to have a dialog by anyone willing to talk to them but then realize they are in too deep often with someone who knows their position better than they do and have refuted it...........so they can't wait to leave. In some cases if they come in a group I always ask if there are any in that group that would like to learn why I came to a loss of faith and there is usually one or two who are very interested in listening to my challenges to what they believe and the leader of the group panics and hightails everyone to the next house..........Evangelism used to work like a charm before the layperson had access to information that only biblical scholars and some clergy knew in the past and refused to trickle it down to the pews................not anymore.
awesome talk - thank you for posting!
The 5 Basic Human Fears
…and it’s no coincidence that religion takes full advantage of them…
Extinction - fear of annihilation, of ceasing to exist. This is a more fundamental way to express it than just calling it the "fear of death". The idea of no longer being arouses a primary existential anxiety in all normal humans. Consider that panicky feeling you get when you look over the edge of a high building.
Mutilation - fear of losing any part of our precious bodily structure; the thought of having our body's boundaries invaded, or of losing the integrity of any organ, body part, or natural function. For example, anxiety about animals, such as bugs, spiders, snakes, and other creepy things arises from fear of mutilation.
Loss of Autonomy - fear of being immobilized, paralysed, restricted, enveloped, overwhelmed, entrapped, imprisoned, smothered, or controlled by circumstances. In a physical form, it's sometimes known as claustrophobia, but it also extends to social interactions and relationships.
Separation - fear of abandonment, rejection, and loss of connectedness - of becoming a non-person - not wanted, respected, or valued by anyone else. The "silent treatment," when imposed by a group, can have a devastating psychological effect on the targeted person.
Ego-death - fear of humiliation, shame, or any other mechanism of profound self-disapproval that threatens the loss of integrity of the Self; fear of the shattering or disintegration of one's constructed sense of lovability, capability, and worthiness.
As soon as a person becomes incultated to believe abject mythology is real, they surrender their rationality, reason and curiosity out of manufactured fear and carefully constructed willful blindness.
Superb talk: I will look for an equivalent group here in the UK
Secular therapist sounds awesome, when my brother die I couldn't find any secular thanatologist in México it was so frustrating.
Go girl....
Aloha and Mahalo
Konaboyz :)
Who told you about heaven and hell? How did they learn about it? If you follow it back far enough, somebody just made it up.
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Pray to what? Pray How?
If the god of the bible had been portrayed as a king instead of a God , he would be remembered as the most evil, mass murdering, tyrannical dictator of all time! Christians give the bible god a free pass because, they say, he is god the creator. I don't see the difference whether man or god. If his actions were evil or immoral, as the bible states, then he'd be just as guilty of being evil as any human committing the same deeds.
alan watts, daryl anka, explain Why we here,
where we goin', how to get there, the future, all that.
Good for athiests too, because they don't push religion.,
they make sense without it. (though alan watts has some zen background
he doesn't say you have to go by that at all.)
Brian, lets do this.
1. *Why are we here* Because our parents decided to reproduce, that's all.
2. *Where are we going, how, the future and all* Where we/you go is up to you, the future is yours to choose, we get there the best way we can.
So the whole future and *all that* is in your hands, think and act .
Hmm. Forcing therapy on people is still not really ethical though.
christians Jesus did not teach the doctrine of atonement It is a huge guilt trip that devalues life The kingdom of God is within you This has been warped by church doctrine by our forefathers Do not be angry That is what they thought and it is not true Look within yourself
@Toughen Up, Fluffy And the burger that I ate while reading Lee's post.
Take away hope and offer nothing in return..The devil is busy these days
You mean take away FALSE hope. I guess I would rather be seeking reality and be temporarily lost than live the fairy tale falseness that is religion. So if the devil (I do not accept its existence) is the trickster I guess religion is the devil.
Atheism is the absence of the addiction to religious nonsense. You are right in that atheism does not offer a positive alternative to this addiction. Sobriety is not a positive state, it is the first step to a positive state. The individual still needs to work on his and her own growth. Religion takes that step away for way too many people because it fails to acknowledge reality.