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  • Опубликовано: 31 окт 2014
  • I said that this presentation at SkeptOKon was "in honor of the Dakhma of Angra Mainyu", an Ahrimanic (Satanic) church who's devotees actually believe in a literal devil. However, they're involved in one or two court cases of interest to secularists like myself. At the time of this presentation, I didn't realize I was actually praising the efforts of two separate groups. So there need be some clarification. The devil worshippers successfully sued for the right to hold their black mass in the Oklahoma City Civic Center. They also backed The Satanic Temple, (a non-theist group with no affiliation) in a separate suit over placement of a monument to the Ten Commandments. The Satanic Temple is trying to erect a statue of Baphomet right next to it. Who would have guessed that two different Satanic organizations would have challenged the state in the same courthouse at the same time?
    It is also a timely presentation, considering that a religious zealot just decapitated an Oklahoma teen for "practicing witchcraft".
    www.patheos.com/blogs/progress...

Комментарии • 6 тыс.

  • @0x777
    @0x777 4 года назад +645

    Allow me to add a joke.
    An atheist goes to hell. On his descent he thinks "Damn, looks like the religious were right after all...", but he didn't have much time to ponder because just as he hits rock bottom, a tall man arrives in a puff of smoke. "Hello, welcome to hell, me, I'm the devil, this is hell, your room isn't done yet but you can have your welcome drink at the bar where you get directions to the various activities, over there is the tennis court, back there the swimming pool, the spa is round that corner and if you look over there...", the man goes on and on about various anemities and activities and our atheist starts to ponder... hell doesn't seem that bad a place. "But", he interjects as he spots something, "what's behind that grey wall over there?"
    "Oh that", the devil said, "doesn't concern you". The atheist sprints over to the wall and looks behind it. And goes pale as he sees various people crying and lamenting as they are pushed into pits of molten sulphur, with sub-devils pushing those trying to get out back into the torture pits with pitchforks, throwing glowing coals at the sufferers.
    "Ah, I see! You show me all that and what I could have had, and THAT is waiting for me, right?" "Oh no", the devil says, "far from it".
    "Then what is that?"
    The devil shrugs. "Beats me. I don't really get it myself, but that's the corner for the Christians. They like it that way".

  • @SpltInfinity
    @SpltInfinity 7 лет назад +3380

    With how many scientists and engineers are in hell, the place probably has air conditioning, a swim up margarita bar, and wifi

    • @mybizzz1738
      @mybizzz1738 7 лет назад +6

      ?

    • @B2BCreditandCollection
      @B2BCreditandCollection 7 лет назад +53

      I don't believe in hell or devils.. but thanks anyway

    • @SpltInfinity
      @SpltInfinity 7 лет назад +392

      Me niether. It's a joke buddy...

    • @MrDigztheswagking
      @MrDigztheswagking 7 лет назад +16

      +Chace H lol

    • @spelam9828
      @spelam9828 7 лет назад +162

      well then you better be at that swim up margarita bar,because the first 5 margaritas are on me ;)

  • @nookiebroon4424
    @nookiebroon4424 4 года назад +368

    All you need to remember, is, that it wasn't Satan that drowned every living thing on the planet, apart from one single incesteous family, along with their pets.

    • @Raiden-the-Goat32
      @Raiden-the-Goat32 3 года назад +4

      @Treponema Pallidum The lucifer crap is in reference to a babylonian kind not a satan figure.
      Likewise the word lucifer means morning star and is Latin.
      But in the bible when they mention Lucifer it is not talking about a spirit but a human.

    • @Raiden-the-Goat32
      @Raiden-the-Goat32 3 года назад +4

      @Treponema Pallidum Infact in the amplified bible they actually give you the actual context of the passage and who it is talking about in Isaiah 14:12.

    • @rotshepherd3817
      @rotshepherd3817 3 года назад +2

      @@Raiden-the-Goat32 Lucifer was an angel of God, not a human, at least not in the Bible. This is common knowledge bro

    • @pollypockets508
      @pollypockets508 2 года назад +13

      @@Raiden-the-Goat32 Even if Lucifer was a human, he didn't drown the entire world except for the group that squeezed onto the ark

    • @lederereddy
      @lederereddy 2 года назад

      "All you need to remember, is, that it wasn't Satan that drowned every living thing on the planet, apart from one single incestuous family, along with their pets."
      Yeah, you focus on that nonsense, nookie! Whatever you do, don't realize the fact that God is going to judge us, or that His wrath is severe, just because this entire globe is covered with from one to two miles deep of "SEDIMENTARY FLOOD LAYERS!"
      Go ahead and pretend sedimentary aka flood debris is not really evidencing that there was a global flood!
      Lot's of people ignore it, deny and defy it, pretend to know it's billions of years old, and that there aren't a couple dozen scientifically measurable and many times over measured facts and evidence that defy the eons of time flippantly asserted by all those who, like you, would rather believe the flood never happened, or that God had no right, or there's no evidence, or that there is evidence, but only for a local flood, etc...
      Or you could thank God that He's bothering to warn you to flee from the coming judgment! And if you're smart you have plenty of warnings to heed, right here, right now, so that you aren't swept away as those in Noah's days, who were eating and drinking, working, playing, and getting married, right up to the day The Lord shut Noah and his family up in the Ark and the rain began falling... There were plenty of them standing outside looking right up at the salvation they rejected because they were just so sure they did not need it! It was right there, and though they may have ponded on its hull until their hands were bloodied, they were not let in. No amount of tears or I'm sorry's fashioned would ply the door open not even a crack for their infant's to pass through...
      All I can say is stupidity is reserved for the "braver than I'll ever be!"
      I just had an atheist divulge his own stupidity to me!
      And although I thoroughly explained what, and why, I have no doubt he still doesn't see it!
      He is so solely fixated on his disdain for God he refuses to acknowledge anything God has done as evidence that God has done it!
      He also ignorantly proclaims the lie that all he's doing is "disbelieving God exists!" He is intentionally denying the fact that by denying The Creator he is by default embracing this universe was created by nothing, for no reason, mindlessly, and powerlessly over time and by chance. So, the genius atheist has replaced The Living God with a demonstrably impotent naturalistic formula of time+chance= everything in this universe and on this Earth, living or benign, that's ever been created, and for all time...

  • @jorgeferreira2009
    @jorgeferreira2009 2 года назад +175

    "If you want your life to mean something, try to make someone else's life meaningful"
    - AronRa.
    Great quote

  • @rainestar6781
    @rainestar6781 5 лет назад +1344

    No one ever expects the Satanists of Oklahoma.

    • @WayneRogersOutdoors
      @WayneRogersOutdoors 5 лет назад +28

      Not even me and that's where I'm from.

    • @RonGillOnline
      @RonGillOnline 5 лет назад +10

      I was born in Idabel and all I can do is laugh at this lmao

    • @liambrasier6590
      @liambrasier6590 5 лет назад +51

      They're a lot like the Spanish Inquisition in that regard

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 5 лет назад +20

      "Our chief weapons are... surprise!
      Fanatical devotion to the antipope!
      And..."

    • @jonnie106
      @jonnie106 5 лет назад +10

      @@chrissonofpear1384 LOL... "Amongst our weaponry...are"

  • @ZenKloom
    @ZenKloom 5 лет назад +829

    "They can't maintain their own delusion if they allow you to question it."
    Great statement.

    • @KincadeCeltoSlav
      @KincadeCeltoSlav 4 года назад +7

      Greatest statement. Stolen. Thank you\

    • @kareemdavis1500
      @kareemdavis1500 4 года назад +6

      Yeah because question religious beliefs is considered sentiments that are derive from Satan!

    • @guitarttimman
      @guitarttimman 4 года назад

      Are you serious?

    • @dylanstone7466
      @dylanstone7466 4 года назад +1

      That's not true......... Does anyone know why? Why did so many people like this knowing Christians allow you to question it everyday 😂(granted not all of them but some of them)😂 and some of them may not like it but they can't stop you 😂😂....for the ones who are willing to listen they might still have belief but maybe you can make them see their belief differently....... But no matter what you will not change to many people's minds on their beliefs with questions they believe on faith not on fact they believe their faith is fact and that you're wrong...... No matter what questions you ask they don't have to have an answer to say you're wrong because in their minds you're wrong no matter what say .... Even if facts support what you say ........ Look at evolution..... I think that's enough said

    • @guitarttimman
      @guitarttimman 4 года назад

      @@dylanstone7466 Christianity is good.

  • @Renegade1100011
    @Renegade1100011 5 лет назад +97

    “God literary doesn’t give a damn what happens to you after you die, because then neither of you exist.” - AronRa

  • @phishersmith7592
    @phishersmith7592 4 года назад +75

    0:16
    "And I know everybody in this room probably knows the whole story but I have to preface it for people who will be watching it on video."
    Aron cares about us.

  • @clintonkinsey482
    @clintonkinsey482 5 лет назад +841

    "If you want to make your life meaningful? Try making someone else's life meaningful"
    That is beautiful.

    • @vader618
      @vader618 5 лет назад +6

      That is an atheist giving awe to listeners

    • @narzq
      @narzq 5 лет назад +5

      Sounds like narcism to me but hey, f you can't believe in a god just declare youself one. Lmao

    • @loganleatherman7647
      @loganleatherman7647 5 лет назад +39

      @@narzq No, that's not how it works. Atheists are just the ones who recognize that we ourselves have to make the changes we want to see, not just wait around for some sky daddy to provide. No atheist ever would declare themself a god because that's kind of the whole thing about atheism, tard.

    • @asherikamichaela8425
      @asherikamichaela8425 4 года назад +25

      @@narzq Yeah... no. 😄 That's just doing something good for somebody else. It has nothing to do with narcissism or deifying yourself. That sounds more like "drink the koolaid" cult leader behavior. But you do you, I guess.

    • @asherikamichaela8425
      @asherikamichaela8425 4 года назад +10

      @Gh0st Flow Yeah, pretty sure more Christians fall into that category than Satanists, or anybody else for that matter. This also depends on how the individual defines "destroy." You can verbally, emotionally, mentally, financially and physically destroy someone. Which is it? And when does self-defense come into it? Are you saying they're all going around killing people because they were cut in line at the store or some nonsense? Also, if they are Satanists, I'm rather sure the Christian concept of sin doesn't bother them, just as it doesn't bother Atheists or other "non-believers." That, however, doesn't mean they have no code of ethics, morals or what have you. They just don't require a priest in a church to tell them what those are.

  • @PiraticalFox
    @PiraticalFox 9 лет назад +120

    When I started playing D&D in the early 80s, it was in the middle of the "Satanic Panic". My mother decided to play the game with us, just to see what all of the fuss was about. She didn't much like it herself, but she understood why I did. From that point on, she staunchly defended me and my friends from religious family members, friends, coworkers, and even the parents of the friends who played with me. I believe she changed some of their minds and let us continue to play a game that we loved. She often said: "I'd rather have them using their imaginations and playing a harmless game here, than hanging out at the mall."
    Thanks, mom. :)

  • @veggieowlgirl
    @veggieowlgirl 4 года назад +82

    I remember when I was at Sunday school the teacher of the class was describing Hell. I commented that there would be a lot of people I know there that I could talk to. He said everyone would be in compartments. I thought, "you just made that up". Which he did.

    • @chrisgraham2904
      @chrisgraham2904 4 года назад +16

      Read the bible's description of heaven. Who would want to spend eternity there?

    • @blackice9088
      @blackice9088 Год назад +3

      ​@@chrisgraham2904 Definitely not me... 😊

    • @Benn61
      @Benn61 Год назад +1

      ​@@blackice9088 Be careful what you wish for.

    • @keriannekerr1876
      @keriannekerr1876 9 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@Benn61from what I remember about heaven:
      Unceasing worship and praise of God,
      You won't remember anything ankit your old life so you won't miss family or friends who didn't end up in heaven (but doesn't that also mean you won't recognize those who did?)
      No one's getting fired into heaven or hell until the Judgement Day so everyone dead right now is still "asleep in the ground"
      Angels serve humans (so servitude still exists)
      No sadness exists just happy all the time (again while worshipping non-stop) Sounds like a drug-induced high for eternity and that doesn't sound healthy to me even if there is no body to be damaged

  • @mattmorehouse9685
    @mattmorehouse9685 3 года назад +172

    Aron- "Lilith and Adam were created at the same time, and so were equal. Adam wanted to dominate her. However Lilith knew the secret name of God-"
    Me: "So she blackmails God, or pulls some mind control magic."
    Aron-"So she flies out of the garden."
    So knowing God's name... means flight?
    And they say atheism makes no sense.

    • @jollydove6314
      @jollydove6314 3 года назад

      Whaat? Wow. A bunch of echo chamber idiots in this sub

    • @jollydove6314
      @jollydove6314 3 года назад +4

      @Stasis Field What's wrong with relying on deities if they are just symbols for natural and metaphysical principles? When the person truly understands these he can abandon the symbols and go deeper

    • @jollydove6314
      @jollydove6314 3 года назад

      @Stasis Field Religion is meant to be like a platform built by the visions of past sages for an easier analysis or integration of truths of creation and our psyche. People who do their religions right in my experience have been the most compassionate and intelligent bunch. I am very skeptical about your claims that it has helped you become more grounded and loving. You see I have also been a religious person and then dropped out for the reasons you mentioned and then realized I was living in a vaccum trying to think about everything by myself for the first time. How can you get closer to the truths about and beyond creation so that you find abundance and peace within and act precisely? Most atheists in fact after the excitement settles down realize they have no real,intimate purpose. You can check out the SHAPESHIFTER video from the "Amazing Atheist" channel to see what I mean. Most of the better atheists that I know are not really good role models for life, they judge a person based on superficial matters and so cannot really be helpful and their wisdom is apst nonexistent

    • @blackhat4206
      @blackhat4206 3 года назад +27

      @@jollydove6314 Sounds like you need to meet more atheists, especially so if you look to find “profound wisdom” from the ramblings of “visions of past sages” (often based on dreams or hallucinogenic concoctions from local flora) who just happened to get a few things right among the countless things they got wrong. In my experience, very few “do their religion right,” in that regard, because every individual puts their own spin on their holy books to accept the things they agree with, while disregarding the more barbaric and downright wicked stories of supposedly “all good, all loving deities.” I personally don’t care what people believe until they start using those beliefs to justify racism, bigotry, and violence against those they don’t understand. Although, I’ve also never met a single religious person who reached their supernatural beliefs without exercising faith, and that is not a reliable path to truth in any sense.

    • @notsopurplerei8022
      @notsopurplerei8022 2 года назад

      @@jollydove6314 ruclips.net/video/qavUu4djPwA/видео.html

  • @Avesfox
    @Avesfox 9 лет назад +326

    "If you want your life to have meaning, then make someone else's life meaningful."
    Wow, what a quote!

    • @WitherFang
      @WitherFang 5 лет назад +9

      I got a tear when I heard that!

    • @juliusmatijosius2219
      @juliusmatijosius2219 5 лет назад +7

      I got slight chills and stopped what I was doing to give him a look of respect

    • @immortalsirens4644
      @immortalsirens4644 5 лет назад +4

      This would b the best life ever lived and u dont need a bully(god(s)/parents/religion) to bully u into doing this either everybody wins lols u just need freewill and a charitable kind heart, do unto others as u have them done onto urself lols,no 10 commandments/gods or devils needed to get u to do good kind hearted charitable things lols.

    • @aditsu
      @aditsu 5 лет назад +10

      I also really liked "Christians too often read into the Bible things that it does not say and then they don't read what it does say, it's like they read between the lines and then don't read the lines"

    • @davidhatcher7016
      @davidhatcher7016 5 лет назад

      MisterBull *
      yep.

  • @paulanwr1
    @paulanwr1 5 лет назад +994

    I want to see the Flying Spaghetti Monster monument.

  • @klaxoncow
    @klaxoncow 4 года назад +96

    "Eternal punishment" is really an oxymoron.
    Let's say I steal a cookie from the cookie jar. I'm punished by being made to sit on the naughty step and receive a slap on the wrist for my transgression.
    The whole point of such punishment is that I suffer undesirable consequences for having done the wrong thing and, therefore, will not wish to do the wrong thing again in any hurry, lest reap these undesirable consequences once more.
    And, yes, we can note that this is essentially Pavlovian training. The slap on the wrist causes pain - but not serious pain, it temporarily smarts a bit - but this makes one mentally associate the transgression with the undesirable consequences of pain. Much like Pavlov's bell would make dogs salivate, as they associated it with being fed, after Pavlov trained them to make this association by ringing the bell before "feeding time". So that the next time you feel like transgressing, this association with the pain you will receive for being caught will make you recoil from committing it.
    But here's the fundamental problem with the mainstream interpretation of Hell. It's eternal.
    So there is no "next time". There is no second chance, no rehabilitation. Regret and remorse don't matter as this gig is eternal and you don't ever get out of this never-ending punishment.
    Eternal punishment is not punishment. It's just sadism, pure and simple.
    As the punishment achieves no end goal - how can it, as it's to go on forever? It's eternal Pavlovian training - so you will undoubtedly be well trained, but for what, as you never ever leave this training to ever go on to what you're being trained for?
    So, God roasts all the evil doers forever. But what exactly does that achieve? Indeed, as it's infinite then, by definition, it cannot achieve anything, as it will never ever reach an end state.
    In our fear of potentially suffering this punishment, we're not asking the really obvious question here.
    Why bother? What does it achieve? These folks are not going to transgress anymore, as they've been condemned to eternal isolation in their own special realm.
    Hell is life imprisonment. Well, "death imprisonment", I guess is more accurate, but you know what I mean. They've been banged up in the inescapable cage of Hell for the rest of all time.
    That'll do it. That'll stop the wrong doers from inflicting their transgressions on anyone else, who're happily sunning it up in the paradisaical plains of Heaven. Job done.
    So what's the point of all the agonising pain and suffering? It's nothing more than just sadism at this point, surely?
    Punishments must be finite or, simply, it ain't punishment anymore. It just becomes eternal sadism - no purpose, no end goal, no second chance nor rehabilitation.
    It's just a never-ending "power trip" for these inexplicably needy beings - whose insecurities and sadism know no bounds, as not even infinite worship - for God - nor inflicting infinite pain - for Satan - is ever good enough to satisfy them, as they demand this for all of the rest of eternity. And still it goes on.
    Hell makes no sense.
    And, by extension, how the Hades can Heaven be any better, when you must spend your "eternal bliss" in full and complete knowledge that the other realm exists and, down there, Uncle Billy is being needlessly roasted for all time?
    Here's the fundamental logical problem - the very entry requirements we're told you need to get into Heaven, as being "a good person", means that there's no way you could suffer knowing that there's billions and billions of souls suffering below you. You're a good person, so there's no way you can just ignore and "tune out" the eternal suffering of infinite souls below you and not care. If you could easily do that, then you ain't so great of a "good person" and wouldn't be let in through the pearly gates by St.Peter for, bluntly, being such a miserable sociopathic cunt. You're clearly not a team player, if this is of no issue to you, so entry to "the giant family" would, indeed, seem like a major mistake for Heaven's social cohesion.
    Here. I have 72 willing virgins for you. Now, as you spend the rest of eternity seeking sexual gratification - which is totally "mixed messages" on the Pavlovian front as well, as I was instructing you how this was all so terribly wrong when you were alive, but now you get rewarded with it! - just keep that mental image of Uncle Billy burning in eternal torment in your thoughts.
    Ah, you see. Turns out Heaven is also eternal punishment too. Just of a far more insidious kind. If Hell is the physical torture, then Heaven is mental torture.
    "Praise the Lord! (Uncle Billy's on fire) Praise the Lord! (Uncle Billy's screaming in agonising pain that'll never end) Praise the Lord! (Billions are suffering infinite pain)"
    And those nagging thoughts never go away because, of course, Heaven and Hell are eternal. This never stops, this never ends, this never - by definition - achieves anything.
    Eternal sadism. Some insidious never-ending Chinese Water Torture, tapping away at your soul - be that in Hell or in Heaven, it kind of doesn't matter, as both are working on eroding your soul into nothing, through a death of a thousand cuts. Well, death of an infinity of cuts, in Promethean style, as Hell's fire never actually consumes and Heaven also infinitely restores the boulder to the bottom of the hill again (okay, okay, I'm mixing my mythological metaphors, but you know what I mean).
    God and Satan are apparently on the same side - and always have been - and, frankly, are just totally and utterly psychopathically insane.

    • @maddyboombaddybaddy6532
      @maddyboombaddybaddy6532 3 года назад +11

      Nice comment

    • @angelkitty11
      @angelkitty11 3 года назад +11

      underrated comment

    • @renzezekieldivida3014
      @renzezekieldivida3014 3 года назад +10

      Thank you for such knowledge. You need to be pinned.

    • @SalohcinQE
      @SalohcinQE 2 года назад +17

      Also that only is true for the versions of Christianity where Satan has free will and is the evil counterpart to God's supposed good. In a number of different versions Satan is just another prisoner. Just another being created by God who is punished for making the choices that God created him with the ability to make. Punished for exercising free will.

    • @leyrua
      @leyrua 2 года назад +8

      Brilliant.

  • @KookinHaole
    @KookinHaole 4 года назад +49

    “If you want your life to mean something, Try making someone else’s life meaningful”.

  • @Kholdaimon
    @Kholdaimon 9 лет назад +872

    The greatest trick God ever pulled was making you believe Satan was the evil one...

    • @andrewgan557
      @andrewgan557 6 лет назад +35

      Kholdaimon yup. Turns out he (God) was evil all along and he didn't created everything and he/she/ whatever might not even look humanoid.

    • @davidhatcher7016
      @davidhatcher7016 6 лет назад +3

      The Eclectic Dyslexic
      yes

    • @iamthatiamiamthatiam2942
      @iamthatiamiamthatiam2942 5 лет назад +4

      Kholdaimon. god never made me believe Satan was evil. satan does that all by himself. Satan is the Counterfit of good.

    • @MasterSpade
      @MasterSpade 5 лет назад +61

      I am That I am -- What makes Satan Evil in your Opinion? Because if you had never heard of the bible, and then you read it..........based on the actions of both in that book, it would be crystal clear that the god of the bible is easily the Evil one.

    • @davidhatcher7016
      @davidhatcher7016 5 лет назад +19

      J B
      He sounds like a primitive, immoral man made god.

  • @troy4219
    @troy4219 6 лет назад +549

    At 45 years, I've awakened from my religious coma, feeling sad that I've wasted half my life living in fear and condemnation... Aron Ra and my fellow free thinkers, thank you for real truth!

    • @boethius61
      @boethius61 5 лет назад +50

      Exact same story over here mate. I was 41. Let's both live the rest of our lives to the fullest. Good luck to you.

    • @pumsha
      @pumsha 5 лет назад +10

      Yes....all I hear on the radio when these pastors talk is how we must fear God.....ppl are looking for when God will be here and forget to live there lives....if he is a god that loves everyone than why must we fear him....why is this one true God jealous of other God's...so much wrong have been done and there is no God to fix it...they read a book that tells what ppl did and think its true

    • @immortalsirens4644
      @immortalsirens4644 5 лет назад +6

      I feel sorry and sad for ur loss and this awakening could have happened sooner is we have good guardians from bullying. At least now u can b a pioneer to ur cause like ffrfs and seth andrew and matt dillahunty.To have a chance at a good life and not b able to live it bcos ur told to fear cos u r mearly property of ur parents or gods or devils is unjustified and tome doesnt go backwards to regretting the years that was stolen from u lols better late then never just doesnt seem to cut it as uve been living under bullying all that time ut seems lols the toxicity of religion superstition and parents bullying where is the freedom.

    • @happymaskedguy1943
      @happymaskedguy1943 5 лет назад +23

      Just be grateful you were able to escape it. Enjoy your life 😁

    • @immortalsirens4644
      @immortalsirens4644 5 лет назад +3

      @@happymaskedguy1943 true true,yeah but being greatful isnt worth it. if they didnt impose thier bullying authority over u out of sheer fear from a magical fairytale and belief in magic reward and magic punishment, who punishes the bullies with a free magical pass to bully lols but remenber pur folks r a result of bullying as much as they r doing it to thier offsprings so pity or hate lols u cant turn back time and inwhich u could have done great things for urself or others in that time and energy and focus lost lols it seems like in a magical religious world they live in the monsters they fight of r the sane monsters they create by lives and time lost bcos of religion hence the vicious circle of bullying and indoctrination lols

  • @Kor1134
    @Kor1134 4 года назад +148

    Aron Ra for president.

  • @musicauthority674
    @musicauthority674 9 месяцев назад +10

    Aron Ra saying, "if you want you're life to mean something? try making someone else's life mean something". that is the most profound quote. I have ever heard for sure.

  • @jim191185
    @jim191185 9 лет назад +984

    If Satan punishes evil people, doesn't that make him a good guy?

    • @greasygranpapy7529
      @greasygranpapy7529 9 лет назад +178

      He doesn't. God is the ruler of hell. Satan is just as helpless as we are. Another creation of the "almighty" God. God makes his own adversaries, you see. Cuz logic.

    • @Yal_Rathol
      @Yal_Rathol 8 лет назад +14

      +The God of Nothing depends on the kind of creator. izanami and izanagi were alright people, if a bit xenophobic an old-fashioned.

    • @dennispennington9773
      @dennispennington9773 8 лет назад +71

      +jim jimjim People seem to want to believe in the devil. I hear people say all the time that the biggest job of the devil is to get you to believe he doesn't exist. I've even seen this on TV and everyone shakes their heads "yes." They claim this non-belief in the devil means he is doing his job so well.
      Really? What about the Bible verse that says he goes about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour? I'm sorry, Christians. You can't have it both ways. Just like your god, your devil is imaginary.
      That's my 2 cents. :)

    • @jim191185
      @jim191185 8 лет назад +55

      Dennis Pennington God and the Devil are just personifications of Good and Evil..... It's so obvious it's fucking retarded.
      These idiots give credit to god for everything good.... then blame everything evil on the devil.
      But then, if a bad thing naturally occurs, then it's OUR FAULT and god has punished us for something..... Something evil Satan made us do (or some shit like that).
      It gives me a headache. Such a load of bollocks, believed in by so many.

    • @dennispennington9773
      @dennispennington9773 8 лет назад +4

      I got it. Totally agree.

  • @TalkSteer
    @TalkSteer 5 лет назад +791

    if satan did exist, he actually helped adam and eve escape mind control.

    • @silverwings2493
      @silverwings2493 5 лет назад

      So what you're saying is, satan took control of the minds of Adam and Eve and thanks to them we have what we have now. Adam and Eve did what Satan wanted. Either way, they messed up.

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 5 лет назад

      How are people to KNOW how nature points to God, per Romans 1:20, if the 'natural man' sees the ways of God as utter foolishness?
      And what of James 3:15, and what that implies, about nature?

    • @silverwings2493
      @silverwings2493 5 лет назад

      @@chrissonofpear1384 read The whole chapter not just a few verses.

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 5 лет назад +1

      To explain why God cannot solve problems without violence, that some may see as imitative, or a role model?
      Why can demons reach Earth?

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 5 лет назад

      Sorry, wrong reply (to many posts) I was thinking more of Numbers et al, there.
      How much of nature was Satan permitted to control?

  • @leftredneck
    @leftredneck 4 года назад +13

    "if it's a choice between eternal hell and good tunes, or eternal heaven and new kids on the fucking block.... I'll be surfing on the lake of fire, rocking out!"
    - Bill Hicks

  • @AD-pp2vn
    @AD-pp2vn 5 лет назад +207

    I don't believe in your Magic Sky Daddy, why would I believe in your Ground Troll?

    • @rodneyruspin7044
      @rodneyruspin7044 4 года назад +5

      AD lol

    • @NikkiDocherty74
      @NikkiDocherty74 4 года назад +12

      Ground control to Major troll. Take your protein pills and put your helmet on...
      ...commencing countdown, engines on
      ...check ignition and may God's love be with you.

    • @faerie5926
      @faerie5926 4 года назад +6

      XD 'Ground troll' I'm using that.

    • @hadeskingoftheunderworld7010
      @hadeskingoftheunderworld7010 4 года назад +6

      Lovely sky daddy and ground troll

    • @NikkiDocherty74
      @NikkiDocherty74 4 года назад +2

      @@hadeskingoftheunderworld7010 neither one for me, thanks.

  • @tobender4ever
    @tobender4ever 8 лет назад +490

    There is a type of Christian (like my aunt) that define "Satanic" as "Not Directly Christian". So Star Wars, ice cream, Fallout 3, Buddhism, technology, puppy dogs and peace to be satanism. There's no neutrality. "You're either with me, or you're my enemy."
    My aunt didn't know what Norte Dame was so she assumed it was satanic. I didn't comment.

    • @TheJakecheck
      @TheJakecheck 8 лет назад +65

      she's not worth talking to.

    • @GanonGhidorah
      @GanonGhidorah 7 лет назад +117

      "You're either with me, or you're my enemy."
      Just remember what a Wise Man once said...
      "Only a Sith deals in absolutes..."

    • @factsabouturmum9250
      @factsabouturmum9250 7 лет назад +62

      Wait, if *only* a Sith deals in absolutes... And the phrasing "only a Sith" qualifies the statement as an absolute... Then does that make any Jedi who uses that line, a Sith? Are... Are the Jedi actually the bad guys in that series? And if that's the case then is there really a light and dark or is the force all gray or maybe the jediareactuallyintunewiththedarksi-....
      Oh dear, I've gone crosseyed.

    • @GanonGhidorah
      @GanonGhidorah 7 лет назад +33

      There's a bit of an unspoken truth about the Prequels. I actually think that Lucas WANTED to portray the Jedi as just as bad as the Sith were.
      But that last line made me laugh.

    • @MouseGoat
      @MouseGoat 7 лет назад +16

      na, led the old people have their silly fantasies, they will die sooner or later regardless.
      they are not the future

  • @dekky3908
    @dekky3908 9 лет назад +211

    When I was in high school, a young girl whom was one of my classmates and I engaged in a conversation. She asked me my thoughts on God. I responded that I did not believe in Christianity, and asked her if she did; as I honestly did not think anyone actually believed in such things at our age. She seemed appalled at my inquiry, accused me of being a devil-worshiper and spread my disbelief to the rest of the school. I was ostracized by my peers, and the facility from that day forth.

    • @dekky3908
      @dekky3908 9 лет назад +39

      ***** Thank you for the sentiment. I survived my childhood, and become a well adjusted adult. My story is just an illustration of how dangerous belief without question can be, especially when the victim is you.

    • @dekky3908
      @dekky3908 9 лет назад +5

      ***** Haha generally a frustrating effort in futility, I should have added "relatively speaking" to that.

    • @WokeandProud
      @WokeandProud 9 лет назад +34

      Dekkren Kain That people would do that to their own loved ones in the name of some imaginary friend who does nothing for them when their loved ones would do anything for them is disgusting. Just another example of how religious poisons everything.

    • @dekky3908
      @dekky3908 8 лет назад +11

      ***** No, this is from a Michigan School in a small white republican dominated village, littered with a bank and church on every corner.

    • @sagerider2
      @sagerider2 8 лет назад +17

      +Dekkren Kain I hate to tell you this, but even if you join them, they ain't gettin' better. Believe me, I know. I was raised catholic, it made the wars between the Irish Catholics & protestants look like a turkey walk. I got attacked every day at school by the older boys, fortunately I figured out how to beat the crap out of them very quickly, or I would have returned home either beaten up or worse. I mean, what does "Do you know what I'm going to do to you?" mean? My response was "Not half of what I'm going to do to you." I carried my hardback schoolbooks in a leather strap and would hit them right where they lived. Once after i hit a boy he limped over to sister Mary-Magdalene and said, "Marilyn hit me with her book." The creepy nun said, "Face it Mathew that's the closest you've been to a book in your life."

  • @adz4315
    @adz4315 4 года назад +24

    Quote of the century "if you want your life to mean something... try making someone else's life meaningful"!!

  • @GreywolfRaventhorne
    @GreywolfRaventhorne Год назад +16

    This is one of Aron's best speeches. Remarkable.

  • @MarkLucasProductions
    @MarkLucasProductions 9 лет назад +657

    AronRa always does a superlative job of delivering the plain truth in simple terms. It is for this reason that I support him and I would like to see him doing more and more public speaking as well as video productions. He is a champion of reason deserving of the broadest possible support.

    • @kuttr-654
      @kuttr-654 9 лет назад +31

      well said. i agree completely.
      he breaks his presentation down for the some of us without college degrees in sciences to understand :D

    • @killgriffinnow
      @killgriffinnow 9 лет назад +16

      Yeah. Also he's an atheist who describes himself as feminist but hasn't allowed it to corrupt him unlike PZ Myers

    • @TheSnoopy1750
      @TheSnoopy1750 9 лет назад +17

      Friendshipismagic Like myself, I think AronRa is more of an "equal rights" person than the new definition of "feminist" that some people are using today. I may be mistaken, let me know.

    • @killgriffinnow
      @killgriffinnow 9 лет назад +4

      *****
      Yes I agree, but I think he shouldn't use the phrase since it is inherintly biased towards women, just like the term masculanist is inherently biased towards men.

    • @TheSnoopy1750
      @TheSnoopy1750 9 лет назад +1

      Friendshipismagic I keep hearing this term "New Feminist". What exactly does it mean? Is it trying to confer higher rights for women?

  • @ZobmieRules
    @ZobmieRules 9 лет назад +91

    "He has *_misterious_* ways. Keep *_you're_* family close."
    _Yup. Shows what kind of people he's messin' with there._

    • @rayrupertus8012
      @rayrupertus8012 7 лет назад +6

      Christians are no different ISIS

    • @andrewharper1609
      @andrewharper1609 5 лет назад +3

      I think they may have kept their family a little too close....

    • @swankyjunk
      @swankyjunk 5 лет назад

      Not sure they'd be able to point the gun forwards to be honest.

    • @PhilJonesIII
      @PhilJonesIII 5 лет назад

      That's double-entendre for 'Don't ever let your mistresses meet'.

  • @AnotherMC
    @AnotherMC 4 года назад +27

    Wait, so Doom 2016 and Doom eternal wasn’t based on a true story?

  • @labspeciman7402
    @labspeciman7402 Год назад +10

    Aron has the talent to explain things so everyone understands.

  • @dangunn6961
    @dangunn6961 5 лет назад +114

    Ancient Greek historian Polybius 200 b.c. 118 b.c wrote. Since the masses of the people are inconstant, full of unruly desires, passionate, and reckless of consequences, they must be filled with fears to keep them in order. The ancients did well, therefore, to invent gods, and the belief in punishment after death.

  • @paulmadryga
    @paulmadryga 9 лет назад +303

    17:51 - "God can't do anything by himself. He's so pathetic that he needs the aid of superstitious minions who can't even write at the 8th-grade level."
    Gold!

    • @thatguy22441
      @thatguy22441 5 лет назад +17

      And he can't manage money for some reason.

    • @maximilian8959
      @maximilian8959 5 лет назад

      You have no idea how bad it is to venerate Satan. --> www.ncregister.com/blog/jimgraves/3-ex-satanists-come-home-to-the-catholic-church

    • @iamthatiamiamthatiam2942
      @iamthatiamiamthatiam2942 5 лет назад +3

      Paul Madryga are you one of those minions.

    • @davidhatcher7016
      @davidhatcher7016 5 лет назад

      @@maximilian8959
      random.

  • @MadScientist512
    @MadScientist512 3 года назад +7

    "Apistevist=One who rejects faith as unnecessary, unreliable and inherently dishonest" is a great word I shall now dedicate to memory, thanks be to Aaron Ra! :)

  • @nesnibila4888
    @nesnibila4888 4 года назад +11

    That was soooo goooood. The beginning was like a stand-up routine, the middle was like a ted talk, and the end was like listening to spoken poetry. I was actually laughing so much at the statue story at the beginning that I went downstairs and told my sister and Christian mum about it (luckily they found it funny).

  • @ianmacdonald6350
    @ianmacdonald6350 5 лет назад +397

    A simpler and more fundamental paradox: If Satan is the enemy of God, why would he run Hell, in which he allegedly punishes those who disobey God? Surely he would commend them for doing so, not punish them?

    • @lidad8950
      @lidad8950 5 лет назад +1

      These guy is disgusting n so ugly the next undertaker

    • @aleksythehorse5984
      @aleksythehorse5984 5 лет назад +27

      Actually in Inferno he is just a special prisoner there.

    • @wubuck79
      @wubuck79 4 года назад +64

      In Christian theology Satan is in Hell being punished along with non-believers. He has no choice. He is not considered to be ruling over Hell in the way popular culture depicts.

    • @ayoubkhalil1
      @ayoubkhalil1 4 года назад +18

      It's because he's is a worshipper of God. He disobeyed him, but none the less worships him and recognizes him as the most powerful. He is only trying to show that we are a worse kind of creation than him, and he wants to prove to god that he was more fit to be king of this world than Adam and his progeny. But this is based on Islamic teaching, if I'm not mistaken it isn't the same in Christianity.

    • @Puchuchi747
      @Puchuchi747 4 года назад +30

      Just another show of contradiction in a bible written by men. Nothing new lol

  • @terrelltravis2870
    @terrelltravis2870 7 лет назад +233

    "You're not immortal! You're not eternal and to believe otherwise is to diminish everything that you really have. Life is precious because it is short and there's nothing after it. There's no destiny and there's no purpose beyond what you give it yourself. If you want your life to mean something, try making someone else's life meaningful." Brilliant words from my favorite atheist

    • @kmasse81
      @kmasse81 7 лет назад +13

      Terrell Travis My 13 year old son said "I can get behind that!" when he heard him say that. We had such a great conversation afterwards.

    • @vampyricon7026
      @vampyricon7026 7 лет назад

      +

    • @elnathbonifacio7406
      @elnathbonifacio7406 7 лет назад +3

      Terrell Travis perfect conclusion for a broad yet simply discussed topic.

    • @MrDigztheswagking
      @MrDigztheswagking 7 лет назад +2

      good shit

    • @mythslayr
      @mythslayr 7 лет назад +1

      Terrell Travis 9lll MI p o 00 (kkkkk (

  • @SeedsnStems63
    @SeedsnStems63 9 месяцев назад +8

    I’m the grandchild of one of the original founders of Chick Publications. You got through to me Aaron 💚 thanks for helping liberate me

    • @anghusmorgenholz1060
      @anghusmorgenholz1060 7 месяцев назад +1

      That is a heavy thing to live with. My son and I have collected those booklets for years now. We're both unrepentant atheists. So it's just a weird thing we do. I can't begin to imagine that world. I'm very happy that you have risen above that. Love your name.

    • @anghusmorgenholz1060
      @anghusmorgenholz1060 7 месяцев назад +1

      Just saw your page. Love roots. It's late so I will listen tomorrow. Again glad you made it.

    • @SeedsnStems63
      @SeedsnStems63 7 месяцев назад

      @@anghusmorgenholz1060 This genuinely brought tears of joy to me last night. I appreciate the support. its been a long road deconstructing and even tho my family is shunning me, I know my younger siblings see all the hypocrisy and if I ever get the chance to share the truth with them I want to be the best communicator I can, and this community is an absolute blessing if I’ve ever experienced one 😂

    • @SeedsnStems63
      @SeedsnStems63 7 месяцев назад

      @@anghusmorgenholz1060 I literally brought a copy of Big Daddy with me to High school biology class as reference material to try and debunk my teacher and disrupt class. Terrible stuff

  • @devilmonkey427
    @devilmonkey427 4 года назад +103

    *To all the Atheists out there* ....
    Don't think of these triggered christians as lesser people that deserve *condescending* critiques of their Bronze age magical fairytale beliefs and ignorance.
    *To the christians out there* ......
    "CONDESCENDING" means we talk down to you.

  • @theblackgoatofthewoods
    @theblackgoatofthewoods 8 лет назад +249

    "the snake that can not be tamed...."
    Perhaps it was the snake in Adams pants?

    • @mattshepard3805
      @mattshepard3805 6 лет назад +22

      You know, you might have a solid point.

    • @brauliodiaz3925
      @brauliodiaz3925 5 лет назад

      xD

    • @FoodNerds
      @FoodNerds 5 лет назад +1

      Oh good one!

    • @justsomeguy2825
      @justsomeguy2825 5 лет назад +5

      He wasn't wearing pants.

    • @Superknullisch
      @Superknullisch 5 лет назад +5

      @@justsomeguy2825 Exactly!! So it was completely untamed.. free to sodomize anything and anyone, Fuck!! It's even worse than I thought!!!

  • @EntropyVX
    @EntropyVX 9 лет назад +194

    I was warned by my friends mum to stop playing Magic the Gathering in the mid 90's because it was satanic. My friend stopped, I kept playing.

    • @kuttr-654
      @kuttr-654 9 лет назад +7

      lols me too!
      the acting was supposed to be preparing us for casting spells ! XD

    • @EllipseKore
      @EllipseKore 9 лет назад +7

      KUTTR- I was told to stop playing Yugioh for a similar reason. Didn't either, dat math, mang.

    • @ozfizface
      @ozfizface 9 лет назад +5

      Still have your old cards? You may be sitting on a goldmine.

    • @EntropyVX
      @EntropyVX 9 лет назад +6

      Laura Murray I still have them but unfortunately I got into MTG about a year late so I missed all of the Alpha and Beta edition cards. I mostly have 3rd edition.

    • @ozfizface
      @ozfizface 9 лет назад +1

      There's still some excellent cards from 3rd onwards. You may already know of this site (blame my ignorance if you do) but starcitygames.com have the current US prices if you're interested in knowing what you have.

  • @chriswhitt6618
    @chriswhitt6618 2 года назад +9

    This actually gives me hope for your country. It’s things like this that keeps my faith in people.

  • @CulturedWhiteBoy
    @CulturedWhiteBoy 5 лет назад +12

    I love when Aron gets all flustered. I asked a friend of mine if slavery was good and she said that's the way things were done back then and it was accepted. I tried getting other answers out of her, but I ended up just sending her a roller skating gif.

    • @tonybrantley
      @tonybrantley Год назад +1

      Sorry but it's ACCEPTED.

    • @CulturedWhiteBoy
      @CulturedWhiteBoy Год назад +1

      @@tonybrantley You're absolutely right! Thanks. 😊

  • @kman314wastaken
    @kman314wastaken 5 лет назад +211

    Oklahoma Christians: (makes a statue of the Ten Commandments at the state courthouse)
    Dakhma of Angra Mainyu: (does the same thing with a statue of Baphomet)
    Oklahoma Christians: *suprised pickachu meme*

  • @davidroberts1689
    @davidroberts1689 9 лет назад +34

    "If you want your life to be meaningful, try making someone else's life meaningful."
    Truth!

  • @Michael-sb8jf
    @Michael-sb8jf Год назад +14

    I rewatch/listen to this every once in a while and that last 5 minutes alway gets to me. Not emotionally but philosophically. If there is or is not a god I don't know but you live life to its fullest. Help your neighbors. Do what makes you happy and do not make others unhappy to the best of your ability

  • @jaliamutumba2584
    @jaliamutumba2584 11 месяцев назад +6

    "Hell" is one thing I never feared 😂😂😂

  • @brianvance1178
    @brianvance1178 6 лет назад +195

    According to Greek mythology, none of the gods really cared how much you believe in them. And that when you died your ultimate fate (Elysium, Asphodel, Tartarus) would be decided solely by how you lived your life, regardless of if you believe hard enough

    • @TheCompleteMental
      @TheCompleteMental 5 лет назад +42

      So greek gods are better than the christian god, at least from what im gathering

    • @nathanielgrey4091
      @nathanielgrey4091 5 лет назад +23

      @@TheCompleteMental They would probably fuck with you for their own amusement. Literally, in Zeus's case. Seriously, Hera is a vengeful, jealous bitch. She will make Hell look like a weekend vacation to Nebraska if her man looks at you too long.

    • @heckingbamboozled8097
      @heckingbamboozled8097 5 лет назад +35

      @@nathanielgrey4091 Yeaahhh but did the Greek gods wipe out the entire planet because they weren't happy, only allowing one family to survive and inbreed for centuries? *cough cough* Noah's Ark *cough cough*

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 5 лет назад +6

      Well... Deucalion, Titanomachy, end of golden age humans, etc...

    • @AD-pp2vn
      @AD-pp2vn 5 лет назад +11

      @@nathanielgrey4091 So I guess Anubis is a better judge...

  • @kendallchaos
    @kendallchaos 6 лет назад +133

    A friend of mine made this argument
    If Lucifer is the ultimate deceiver and really wanted to raise hell (pun fully intended) he would create a religion where he was god and was not to be questioned and then create multiple denominations of that religion with slightly different beliefs (sound familiar to anyone?)
    This is extremely paraphrased the whole argument was even more in-depth then this and it made so much sense

    • @iveria1100
      @iveria1100 5 лет назад +10

      He did make a religion where he is "god"and isn't to be questioned
      It's called Islam

    • @andrew_35
      @andrew_35 5 лет назад +22

      @@iveria1100 And Christianity

    • @iveria1100
      @iveria1100 5 лет назад +2

      @@andrew_35 No

    • @andrew_35
      @andrew_35 5 лет назад +28

      @@iveria1100 Why not? Yaweh is "god" and not to be questioned. All the terrible things he does are explained away with "He's god and he can do what he wants"

    • @iveria1100
      @iveria1100 5 лет назад

      @@andrew_35 The Bible says to love your neighbor as you love your self honor the father and thy mother believe on the Lord Jesus Christ follow his great teachings get people baptized
      Now God flooded the world because He has authority over everything what He might do is bad for us maybe but He is our Father and he wants you to come to heaven

  • @jesreyes1472
    @jesreyes1472 4 года назад +11

    You truly are an enlightened being with an advanced understanding of universal laws. With the knowledge that you posses you radiate compassion upon us all. To both those who have encountered you as well as those who have not. You posses a supreme sense of duty and morality. The only sign of brutality displayed within your nature is in your honesty. I vow to do my part to spread your sentiment. I sympathize with your sentiment brother.

  • @noahsorensen7817
    @noahsorensen7817 11 месяцев назад +8

    This video has SO MUCH GREAT CONTENT!!
    I wish all churches had this much information to share for people to know about.

  • @MasterSpade
    @MasterSpade 5 лет назад +233

    “The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don’t like that statement, but few can argue with it.” - Carl Sagan
    That man speaks the TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @rudyhill9286
      @rudyhill9286 5 лет назад +1

      Citation, please: where in scripture may one find an example of child abuse attributed to christ. Let me guess, suffer the children to come unto me...

    • @evaahh9584
      @evaahh9584 5 лет назад +32

      Rudy Hill how about that one where god tried to get someone to kill their child?

    • @MasterSpade
      @MasterSpade 5 лет назад +19

      @@rudyhill9286 -- Have you read the bible? Because there are Many. But if you are like most BuyBull believers, let's be honest, you will make Excuse after Excuse for those verses. Most buybull believers will actually justify Child Abuse to defend their beliefs.
      So I ask you first -- “Is there any amount of evidence that could shake your faith and make you question your beliefs?”
      If no, then what would be the point in showing you actual verses in the buybull of the EVIL that supposed "god" is responsible for?

    • @septixskeptix1107
      @septixskeptix1107 5 лет назад +27

      @@rudyhill9286 Exodus 21:7, gives men rules to sell their daughters into slavery. I would call that child abuse at the very least. In this day and age, that would consist of a whole laundry list of charges brought up against someone who did that to their daughter. That isn't even relevant to the quote though. Sagan was referring to the believers of these religions abusing their children. It happens all of the time. There were fundamental Christians who killed their adopted child not even half a mile from my childhood home a few years back. The Bible is still being used to justify child abuse to this day. Now one couldn't say that religion was the primary cause of these abuses, because back then nearly everyone identified with one of the major religions, but the abusers were religious none-the-less.

    • @mistylover2082
      @mistylover2082 4 года назад +4

      @@MasterSpade agreed. Check out bitchspot blog channel.

  • @BR540E
    @BR540E 5 лет назад +30

    "If you want your life to mean something, try making someone else's life meaningful."

  • @anikmonette2140
    @anikmonette2140 4 года назад +6

    Reading the Bible as a Christian was the most confusing experience, ever. And I always got told that true Christians naturally understood every word of it...
    And then one day I read about confirmation bias!

  • @rationalpanda4196
    @rationalpanda4196 4 года назад +10

    15:50 -- Tbh, Mr Ra, it was your appearance that attracted me when I first found you. I was a "new born" atheist & looking for anything remotely satanic, partly out of intellectual curiosity & partly to freak out my still devout Christian parents. Although you weren't the satanist I was looking for, you were & still are intellectually educational to me. You helped solidify, so to speak, my deconversion. I appreciate you and your content.

  • @jackvaughan6607
    @jackvaughan6607 5 лет назад +165

    I always enjoy Aron's breakdowns of other "historical" mythologies that contribute to the bible. It makes sense from a creative standpoint. I always look at movies and games when writing stories, and I believe it's a natural human trait to gain inspiration from outside sources when engaging in artistic practices. Beautiful work, keep it up, Aron!

    • @Rico-Suave_
      @Rico-Suave_ 3 года назад +6

      To me the main main reason for incorporating existing beliefs is get the masses to buy into your really “not-new”(new) religion

  • @MrWessiide
    @MrWessiide 6 лет назад +17

    Ending brought me to tears. I'm forever grateful that we have people like this to spread reason and logic.

  • @jailhousephilosopher3309
    @jailhousephilosopher3309 5 лет назад +40

    That was one hella stupendous speech that was so beautiful I shed a tear!

  • @raptorcrasherinc.9823
    @raptorcrasherinc.9823 8 месяцев назад +1

    "God doesn't care what happens when you die, because then, NEITHER OF YOU EXIST!" Might be the greatest quote about religion.

  • @geansv
    @geansv 5 лет назад +65

    Heavy Metal Hitch. Love this bloke.

  • @steveouk90126
    @steveouk90126 8 лет назад +52

    So if I don't advocate for an invisible man living in the sky, I must be an advocate for an invisible man living under the ground; even though my actual position is that none of the invisible men exist?

    • @silverwings2493
      @silverwings2493 5 лет назад

      There is one way to know if heaven is real and hell is real, you have to die, but after that. It is appointed unto man once to die then the judgment.

    • @noobinator9854
      @noobinator9854 5 лет назад +1

      I think most people don't get that devil worshipping (irrespective of religion) is another form of theistic religion (although some groups may claim to be non-theistic) in itself and should be treated the same way as all religions are treated (by atheists). Although the definition of theist is someone who believes in god, I call devil worshippers theists because they believe the devil to be their god. Some may also make the mistake that if one is an atheist, then one must conform to the devil's ways, whatever those ways may be construed as by theists, which is just stupid. I am of the opinion that neither imaginary being, sky or underground, exist.

    • @silverwings2493
      @silverwings2493 5 лет назад

      @@noobinator9854 in my town ( outside of it I will say) there is a building, it once was used for scrap metal. It is used for satan worship. Atheist claim satan doesn't exist, the people who worship in this building say something different. Atheist say one thing Satan worshipers say another.

  • @proud2bpagan
    @proud2bpagan Год назад +5

    it's the devil,Bobby! **I'm a WIccan,and i can't believe that ppl accuse me of worshipping the Devil...kind of hard to believe in a monotheistic concept if you're not monotheist. I've used Aron's Daffy Duck analogy..it's mighty useful. Thanks, Aron!

  • @jasonwashburn6262
    @jasonwashburn6262 5 лет назад +5

    During middle school and high school i was a member of a Mormon offshoot, the Reorganized Church of Ladder Day Saints. We put on big traveling musicals and would play Magic the Gathering on the long rides. It was especially enjoyable when we'd trigger a god warrior. ''You're opening doors to Satan by playing that game."

  • @MarshmellowFluff
    @MarshmellowFluff 9 лет назад +73

    The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was helping God's slaves escape the dungeon of Eden.
    Consequences be damned; he did the right thing, and sacrificed himself for Humanity's freedom.
    Hail Satan, Lord of Light and bringer of wisdom. `v`

    • @iamthatiamiamthatiam2942
      @iamthatiamiamthatiam2942 5 лет назад

      Envsan you are a punt sucker.

    • @austinarnold1401
      @austinarnold1401 5 лет назад +6

      I Am That I Am I Am That I Am Disagree? Prove him wrong. Oh and wait, I thought it is a sin to call people names

    • @Darker_Void_Scientist
      @Darker_Void_Scientist 5 лет назад

      nah you're half correct. They merely use them so they could "be as Gods knowing good and evil". Satan, now, is the same as it's ever been;a drop in the pool fighting to gain control over their survival. The idea intrigued the two other groups, but they failed to beat the GODs. One was punished to work in the fields and the other was put below them. The satans manage to escape with their lives,but power was cut short . That is the cycle of kingdoms and powers on the earth. Nothing more, nothing less. be careful, even the light blinds.

    • @cyansloth1763
      @cyansloth1763 5 лет назад

      I happen to really like satanists :) you got a friend in me bro!
      Signed, a random RUclips atheist.

    • @hmpz36911
      @hmpz36911 5 лет назад

      Prometheus, basically

  • @teamchb3143
    @teamchb3143 8 лет назад +53

    i am Christian and i am fully fully fully behind the separation of church and state.

    • @gertjanvandermeij4265
      @gertjanvandermeij4265 5 лет назад +1

      We all make mistakes :-)

    • @jailhousephilosopher3309
      @jailhousephilosopher3309 5 лет назад +6

      I am fully behind the separation of church and mind! I am watching dateline about an innocent guy that prayed and prayed and prayed with his mom to get out of jail. after 24 years they finally decided to actually talk to real people like a judge and lawyer, and he got out of jail. YOU KNOW, they were like thank God for getting him out of jail.

    • @diobrando6716
      @diobrando6716 5 лет назад +1

      Thank you

    • @rangerkeith7
      @rangerkeith7 5 лет назад +1

      Good. Without separation of church and state, an individual denomination could use the power of the state to pressure other denominations.

    • @sparkyy0007
      @sparkyy0007 5 лет назад

      There is no such thing as separation of politics and culture anywhere on earth.
      All cultures on earth derive their laws from religous beliefs including atheist China.
      .

  • @harrybaffourawuah6856
    @harrybaffourawuah6856 5 лет назад +9

    “If you want your life to mean something, try making someone else’s life meaningful “

  • @booknamebasis
    @booknamebasis Год назад +2

    The greatest trick God ever pulled was to get the world to believe he even exists.

  • @FBtheHunter
    @FBtheHunter 9 лет назад +141

    Those letters from the "true beleivers" (sic) at 17:00 - did anyone else feel a burning desire to go all Grammar Nazi on them?

    • @cameronyu2413
      @cameronyu2413 9 лет назад +11

      FBtheHunter I don't know why, but all I kept thinking was how Christianity is synonymous with Marvel's Hydra. I feel like those letters could easily have had in there "You can cut off one head, but two more will take its place! Hail Jesus!" lol

    • @MarkLucasProductions
      @MarkLucasProductions 8 лет назад +1

      +Cameron Yu SynonYmous WITH - not "synonOmous TO"

    • @MarkLucasProductions
      @MarkLucasProductions 8 лет назад +3

      +FBtheHunter Your quite right to.

    • @FBtheHunter
      @FBtheHunter 8 лет назад +1

      Mark Lucas
      That is just cruel...

    • @nakedmolerat43
      @nakedmolerat43 8 лет назад +3

      +FBtheHunter Yes, at least the devil can spell

  • @rebelaxesix3496
    @rebelaxesix3496 9 лет назад +27

    AronRa is one of the best & even most entertaining speakers the secular movement has. I honestly don't think I've seen a presentation of his that was boring.

  • @Brian-tt3op
    @Brian-tt3op 5 лет назад +4

    As a person who is just in the past couple of years finding my way out of the bullshit of religion and accepting myself as an Atheist I appreciate these videos. Unless you have found your way out of the mess that is religion yourself you will never really understand how hard that struggle can be. Even though I could never believe that lie again it helps to watch these videos and bolster my strength and knowledge against the ignorance in the same way that Christians go to church to renew their faith. Of course, the major difference is that I new require no faith to be free any longer! A very sincere and heartfelt thank you to all of those out there fighting the good fight against ignorance.

  • @rogermwilcox
    @rogermwilcox 5 лет назад +11

    7:56 : The Peace sign being the Norse rune of the harvest is a new one on me.
    Last I heard, the Peace sign was formed from the semaphore symbols for "N" and "D" -- standing for Nuclear Disarmament. (I.e. it started as an anti-nuclear-weapons symbol.)

  • @awakeningtovacuity8372
    @awakeningtovacuity8372 5 лет назад +21

    "The power of Jerry compels you". I'm gonna use that the next time a religiolot tries to convert me.

  • @Tigranis
    @Tigranis 9 лет назад +60

    "... and even worse, I played Dungeons and Dragons."
    ... instant +1. ^^

    • @iamthatiamiamthatiam2942
      @iamthatiamiamthatiam2942 5 лет назад +1

      Tigranis yeah, I play with myself alot to.

    • @FoodNerds
      @FoodNerds 5 лет назад

      You beast! Lol jk!

    • @FoodNerds
      @FoodNerds 5 лет назад

      @@iamthatiamiamthatiam2942
      I laughed so hard I almost peed my pants.

    • @iamthatiamiamthatiam2942
      @iamthatiamiamthatiam2942 5 лет назад

      Michele G laughed at what

    • @Superknullisch
      @Superknullisch 5 лет назад

      Yeah in demonic possession, that's for sure.. And most certainly against gelatinous cubes! : DDDDDD

  • @0x777
    @0x777 4 года назад +14

    Concerning the "god's mysterious ways" happening at about 17:30:
    Any god that needs mortal henchmen to do his dirty work can't be that great. A god worth worship would certainly be completely capable himself of removing me from his creation if he so pleases. So there's only two options: Either I don't really bother him that much that he wants me gone or he just isn't there. And in both cases you should probably think twice about removing me from existence either. Because in the first case, you might piss him off because you assume that he ain't strong enough to snuff me out and needs your help to do so, or in the second case, well, you're killing for a figment of your imagination, i.e. you're crazy.
    Pick your poison.

  • @richarddismore5901
    @richarddismore5901 4 года назад +5

    One of the best talks I have ever heard from Aaron and he has had a lot of good talks! Thank-you for posting! The last 4 minutes are bang on point.

  • @jilliansmith7123
    @jilliansmith7123 7 лет назад +24

    42--of course--the answer to life the universe, and everything.

    • @Shamrocc
      @Shamrocc 4 года назад

      Jillian Smith how many bits was that computer?

  • @RadarKat73080
    @RadarKat73080 7 лет назад +66

    Nobody expects the Satanic Inquestion!

    • @stephaniecuellar3192
      @stephaniecuellar3192 6 лет назад +9

      xxxRadarxxx
      So, no comfy chair?

    • @iamthatiamiamthatiam2942
      @iamthatiamiamthatiam2942 5 лет назад

      xxxRadarxxx I expect it everyday.

    • @FoodNerds
      @FoodNerds 5 лет назад +1

      Oh no will they use... LOGIC ON US!! OH NO SAY IT ISN'T SO! 😱

    • @FoodNerds
      @FoodNerds 5 лет назад +1

      @@stephaniecuellar3192 LMAO!!

    • @peterscott1272
      @peterscott1272 5 лет назад

      what murderous misguided morons the inquisitionists were

  • @mrsnakesmrnot8499
    @mrsnakesmrnot8499 4 года назад +5

    Watching this sermon is how I celebrated Easter Sunday, 2020, while quarantined away from Coronavirus. Others should celebrate similarly. Thank you, Ra.

  • @classybree2241
    @classybree2241 8 месяцев назад +3

    Wow!!! 9years ago when I was still shouting amen and praise da lord in church and giving all my small money as tithe or seed but you guys were awake already😢 I feel like I wasted so much time and resources

  • @davidmlong63
    @davidmlong63 7 лет назад +82

    I am 54, I have been an Atheist since I was 13. I called myself an Atheist from 76.

    • @jeanetteyork2582
      @jeanetteyork2582 6 лет назад +6

      David Long ..you are not alone.

    • @cedricrobertson2893
      @cedricrobertson2893 6 лет назад +2

      There is something of with your math

    • @seamusmergatroid9190
      @seamusmergatroid9190 6 лет назад +6

      CedricBorn 1963 (hence 54 in 2017) - Atheist since 13 years old - 1963 + 13 = (19)76 - simplesThere is something OFF with your maths (and English)

    • @cedricrobertson2893
      @cedricrobertson2893 6 лет назад +3

      Seamus Mergatroid I was kidding
      Also ennglush is noot mayn language

    • @iamthatiamiamthatiam2942
      @iamthatiamiamthatiam2942 5 лет назад

      David Long I bet you were born gay too.

  • @zapzeus988
    @zapzeus988 9 лет назад +7

    Beautiful lecture Aron, I never believed in any religion even when I was a kid in the 70's. I was always treated as strange because of it. But I still always had that fear in the back of my mind of the devil and hell and damnation. I know it doesn't seem to make sense, but when you hear it day after day from everyone and everywhere it still gets ingrained in your head of the possibility. I rebelled at the age of around 11 from religion when my family was going to the Mormon church and said I was never going back one day, and I was lucky my parents didn't make me go back. I only wish I would have escaped the fear of hell before I was in my late 40's. This lecture would have helped me see the light much more quickly. Thank you for sharing your voice with us and I hope this video helps many, many more people see the light so that they don't live with that fear as long as I did.

  • @georgeetboom7719
    @georgeetboom7719 3 года назад +9

    I really wish i could show my mum and dad this but i think they would just find an excuse not to question their beliefs

  • @mikolajrowinski7794
    @mikolajrowinski7794 3 года назад +5

    33:10
    His speach from this point is so briliant
    I mean all this talk was amazing but the finale, finale is the greatest

  • @776281
    @776281 9 лет назад +163

    Please; the real god of the christian right is the Almighty Dollar

    • @FoodNerds
      @FoodNerds 5 лет назад +2

      Damn Right it is!

    • @FoodNerds
      @FoodNerds 5 лет назад +1

      The Right Is Wrong!

    • @immortalsirens4644
      @immortalsirens4644 5 лет назад +2

      Instead of relying on money from already struggling familes making ends meet taking away thier bread and butter,y cant they just orey to thier gods and a structure building eg church will magically appear from the ground from gods hands tadah lols. Then no one would have to miss out on life cos we all gotta eat and sleep and socialise somehow whole waiting in limbo pn earth called living under a goverment or dictatorship lols.

    • @tmashadi
      @tmashadi 5 лет назад +2

      Word! Every religion is about $$$.

    • @elysium1384
      @elysium1384 5 лет назад

      No different than the christian left then , two sides of the same coin hell one side of the same coin

  • @morpheas768
    @morpheas768 9 лет назад +16

    As usual Aron delivers an amazing and interesting speech, while at the same time displaying wisdom and knowledge most people wish they'd have.
    I definitely need to read up on all these pre-bible myths and religious texts, I'm especially interested in the Epic of Gilgamesh.
    Personally I think the origins of these religious characters are more interesting than the characters themselves, especially if you're trying to follow the evolution and adaptations of them into new religions. Its also interesting to see the different traits and features of them being transplanted into new religions and myths, especially those that predate judeo-christian religions.

    • @Michael-Philip
      @Michael-Philip 9 лет назад

      Amen

    • @charcharmunr
      @charcharmunr 9 лет назад +3

      If you want a brief summary of Gilgamesh, it's basically "Superpowerful king-guy has shagged too many wives, so the husbands pray to some deity to get rid of him and some deity gives him a buddy and they have zany antics."

  • @lightningfirst689
    @lightningfirst689 2 года назад +8

    For me, this is still the funniest lecture he's ever done, with Flintstones Archaeology in a close second.

  • @user-ft3jq5vi2l
    @user-ft3jq5vi2l 4 года назад +9

    Judas didn't kill himself out of guilt, he spent the gold on learning how to read and as he read from the Tora he was like "Well that was idiotic, off to hang myself watch and learn!"

    • @djjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
      @djjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj 4 года назад +1

      After that, you could faintly hear Jeebus in the background saying: "I am alive! Is nice."

  • @homerco213
    @homerco213 9 лет назад +137

    The Church of Satan has renounced violence. It would be nice if christianity did the same. No it does not deserve to be capitalized.

    • @keybladesrus
      @keybladesrus 9 лет назад +5

      Michael Dziengel Why does it not deserve to be capitalized? Christianity is a proper noun, and should be capitalized according to the rules of the English language. It's not about respect. Would you still not capitalize it if a sentence started with the word? For example, my second sentence. It would just look weird to have the first word of my sentence in lower case.
      I'm an Atheist, by the way, so I'm not coming at this from a Christian bias. There's just no sense in breaking the rules of a language simply because you don't respect a certain group of people.

    • @bnipmnaa
      @bnipmnaa 9 лет назад +15

      keybladesrus Why have you capitalised "atheist"? It isn't a proper noun.
      (I'm with Michael Dziengel btw, those nutjob omniscient-wizard-in-the-sky cultists don't deserve even implicit linguistic respect, lol)

    • @keybladesrus
      @keybladesrus 9 лет назад +4

      bnipmnaa Huh. I had often seen it written that way, but I just looked it up, and you're right. Atheist is only capitalized at the beginning of a sentence. Now that I know, I'll write it correctly in the future. That's because I respect the English language, and how I feel about any particular group has nothing to do with that. Christianity is a proper noun, so it gets capitalized.
      If you don't want to, then fine. Just know that you're incorrect.

    • @bnipmnaa
      @bnipmnaa 9 лет назад +3

      keybladesrus No need to be bellicose or defensive, matey. Take it as the joke it was intended to be, from both me and the other fella ;-)

    • @thedeebo410
      @thedeebo410 9 лет назад +7

      keybladesrus I'm glad another member of the Grammar SS beat me to this egregious assault on our sacred language!

  • @atheistclown398
    @atheistclown398 9 лет назад +14

    Instead of church on Sunday listen to AronRa. He truly knows his bible. Hats off to Oklahoma Satanists.

  • @jacobfamily4761
    @jacobfamily4761 4 года назад +5

    Thank you for this talk, Aron. I'm atheist but I didn't realise until the mid 90s that this was the case. I'm annoyed that I didn't figure it out sooner, but I never thought of it from the perspective that it wasn't a word that was used.

  • @hifibrony
    @hifibrony 3 года назад +4

    I have seen dozens of Aron's speeches, discussions, panels and presentations on YT, but this may be my favorite.

  • @klutterkicker
    @klutterkicker 9 лет назад +12

    As a child, Satan was also the first thing I recall questioning. I heard the story of Job, and I said to my parents, "What if everything bad that happens is just the devil working with God to test us?" And they said, "No, you've misinterpreted the story, that was a one time thing." But that was, to me, a workable solution to this big conundrum about why God allows evil to exist, why he doesn't just smash Satan into bits right now.

    • @klutterkicker
      @klutterkicker 9 лет назад +4

      *****
      War, strife a bloodshed have been happening since long before the first coming. As a method of exposing Satan, it's clear that waiting for bad things to make evil self-evident is not viable. And if one angel revolution wasn't bad enough, saying that they're going to keep rebelling against God doesn't grant much confidence in him as a leader.

    • @iamthatiamiamthatiam2942
      @iamthatiamiamthatiam2942 5 лет назад +2

      klutterkicker that's not God's plan , that's yours.

  • @FlashManinSpace
    @FlashManinSpace 6 лет назад +404

    I wish my hair could look that fabulous 😍

    • @kacpergarbiec4174
      @kacpergarbiec4174 6 лет назад +2

      Les Brown It sucks dude. I'm 16 and my hairline is receding and my crown is thinning. It's extra bad that i usually have long hair but hopefully it will look good when i will eventually get the bop chop. As soon as i'l be able to grow a beard, i won't really mind it.

    • @kacpergarbiec4174
      @kacpergarbiec4174 6 лет назад

      Les Brown Yes it is, how did you know?

    • @kacpergarbiec4174
      @kacpergarbiec4174 6 лет назад

      Les Brown Well, i thought that it would be fun saying Heil Satan in a video relating to satainism.

    • @nikolademitri731
      @nikolademitri731 6 лет назад +1

      Kacper Garbiec Hey man, when I was 17, my hair started going grey, so don’t feel so bad. I’m 31 now, and pretty damn salt ‘n’ pepper, as I have been for the last 2-3 years. From 17 to 27, my grey hair crept very slowly, but in those last couple years of my 20s it was an avalanche of greying. My point is, even though the genes controlling your hair were set for premature “aging” in adolescence, as were mine, you may have a while yet before serious changes take place. Granted, greying hair and balding hair are two very different things, and we’re two completely different people, but as someone who was bummed out bc my hair was doing things that “aren’t supposed to happen” when you’re a teenager, I know how you feel (kinda), and figured maybe knowing that it took over a decade for it to really start taking over might encourage you.
      Really, though, I know it seems like a big deal, and it’s fine to be bummed about it, but there’s no reason to freak out about what one can’t change. If it takes over swiftly, and it bothers you severely, there are cosmetic options you’ll be able to afford eventually. Try rocking a shaved head, though. Like now, so you can see what it’d look like down the road, and you can acclimate yourself to it. Maybe you’ll like it. Hell, maybe the girls will like it. Start hitting the gym, and you can be their teen Mr. Clean, except dirty! lol 😈😂
      I digress. Hopefully my comment makes you feel a little better. Everything is more complicated, or at least seems to be, when you’re a teenager, so it sucks to have that kinda thing thrown at you so young, but be happy for what it isn’t. It could always be worse, and you can’t let something so minor define you. ✌🏼😊

    • @seekersoftruth1057
      @seekersoftruth1057 6 лет назад

      Flash Man I'm on my way to such luscious locks as we speak

  • @KingQwertzlbrmpf
    @KingQwertzlbrmpf 4 года назад +4

    About Erishkigal. It's worth mentioning that depending on which tradition you are following Erishkigal is either the sister or an alternative version of Inanna, also called Ishtar. Inanna was the goddes of fertility and life. She was also the patron goddes of the city of Uruk. Inanna was, again depending on the tradition you are following, the daughter or the wive of the god of water and wisdom Enki. After besting enki at a drinking game she tricks him into giving her the twelve "me" powers which essentially gave her absolute power over everything making her one of the first all-powerful gods. By the way, i highly recommend you to read those songs, they are beautiful. Back to the point, enki is the sumerian main deity and also a predecessor to the jewish god Yehova.

  • @isabelle6854
    @isabelle6854 5 лет назад +51

    I love how the people who wrote jerry hate mail can’t even use the correct form of “your”

    • @irrelevant_noob
      @irrelevant_noob 4 года назад +1

      Noticed that myself, but TBH it wasn't at all endearing to me, it was quite sad IMO... :-|

    • @paxmule
      @paxmule 4 года назад +1

      *They're* not too bright.

    • @EskChan19
      @EskChan19 4 года назад

      That and misterious was great too. But yeah, apparently the you're is a timeless classic.

    • @MMChoza
      @MMChoza 3 года назад

      Yes...it made me chuckle

    • @penelopegrier5073
      @penelopegrier5073 2 года назад

      That killed me too.

  • @EdMcStinko
    @EdMcStinko 8 лет назад +13

    Just when Id never thought Id hear more excellent arguments about the problems inherent with religion from different angles, this guy just knocks my socks off.

  • @warywolfen
    @warywolfen 9 лет назад +17

    I remember that when the "cabbage patch" doll craze occurred in the 1980s, some people were maintaining that demonic spirits were inhabiting the dolls. The "Chucky" movie, "Child's Play" was a parody that poked fun at this.

    • @gevomaterina1019
      @gevomaterina1019 9 лет назад

      Clyde Wary what are trying to say?

    • @iamthatiamiamthatiam2942
      @iamthatiamiamthatiam2942 5 лет назад

      Clyde Wary don't forget about the cotton candy machines. those things do stuff.

    • @hmpz36911
      @hmpz36911 5 лет назад

      Huh. Was unaware of this. Oddly enough, my sister to this day swears hers walked while her back was turned. It was a clown with squeaky shoes. I thought she would have said, "oh just stupid kid stuff", but no, she still believes it was possessed.

  • @smokyquartz5817
    @smokyquartz5817 Год назад +2

    I wore peace earrings as a kid to southern Christian school and was sent home for it. My whole family was sickened.

  • @supereldinho
    @supereldinho 4 года назад +70

    You never see evil men killing in the name of Satan or hear them say Satan made them do it -- it's always god.
    Funny, isn't it?

    • @user-rb5zt1eo2j
      @user-rb5zt1eo2j 4 года назад +6

      supereldinho Yes,but there is no correlation between religion and morals.

    • @supereldinho
      @supereldinho 4 года назад +14

      @@user-rb5zt1eo2j Never said there was -- I just meant to say that God appears to be a more socially acceptable scapegoat for one's misdeeds and insanity than Satan, which is ironic if you think about it.
      Then again, so is the idea that Satan would torture people in hell for eternity, even though he'd be more inclined to reward evildoers simply out of spite towards God since HE was the one who put Satan there so why would he be doing God's work even in damnation?
      That's religion for you...

    • @firstname163
      @firstname163 4 года назад +9

      @@supereldinho exactly.
      Religion has more holes than swiss cheese in a pit full of mice

    • @scourge34
      @scourge34 4 года назад +2

      Richard Ramirez?

    • @shithousepoet1976
      @shithousepoet1976 4 года назад +1

      Where you been under a rock of course they have many times