Love this channel. Very well yet briefly descripted facts, great videos used as example and not shitey music during videos like some people use. Just 100% pure car appreciation!
Hey Visio, for the zr1 corvette, there are models that had upwards of 410 hp out of the factory. There were two different models of head that those came with. I have a 1995 zr1 with 410 hp from the factory, mainly because they got more power out of it through the later years, and there was a shortage of Dunn heads in 1995 which forced them to get another head manufactured. The new head gave the motor a better air to fuel mixture resulting in more power. Also, the top speed is 192 mph. Just thought I'd throw it out there for you, some food for thought!
Asking Lotus, the legendary chassis designer to build you an engine is a bit like asking Gordon Ramsay to design you a shoe. Lotus didn't gain their reputation off their engines! They just asked Cosworth!
I really did, yeah. But in another way I also almost fell off my chair when I saw those fucking ugly round things (I daren't even call them wheels) under the Vanquish. That was about as inappropriate as it gets
The Dodge Omni was a rebadge/redesign from the European Talbot/Chrysler Horizon. The Talbot Sunbeam is not the same model however, altough it looks very similar. In the 1970's the British Rootes Group (Hillman, Sunbeam, Talbot and Humber being some of the brands) was in financial crisis, and was taken over by Chrysler. Chrysler dropped some of the brands, and some, like Sunbeam were used as a type designation rather than a brand, like on the Talbot Sunbeam. This car was developed after the take over with British government funding to keep the Linwood plant open, and introduced on the market in 1977. (follow up for the Hillman Avenger) The Chrysler/Simca/Talbot Horizon was designed after the French Simca factory was also taken over by Chrysler Europe, it came on the market in 1978, it's engineering was done by Simca while the design came from the British Chrysler headquarters. (Follow up for the Simca 1100) It was even car of the year in 1978!, altough we now remember it as a very poorly built car, which quickly vanished from the streets as rot took it's toll (like many other contemporary cars of that time) It was only sold under Chrysler branding in the UK and Simca in Europe in the first year, as the French PSA (Peugeot and Citroën) bought Chrysler Europe in 1978, thereafter that car was sold as Talbot Horizon. The Dodge Omni ( and Plymouth Horizon) were based on the European Horizon, but redsigned, they had Mc Pherson instead of torsion bar front suspension, different larger engines (VW, PSA and Chrysler) and almost nothing of the body panels was interchangable as well, so they were essentialy a different model. It stayed a own model for Chrysler USA after Chrysler Europa was sold to PSA. The main difference between the Talbot Horizon/Dodge Omni and Talbot Sunbeam however is that the first 2 have FWD while the latter one has RWD. This story is a bit complicated, and it was!
You feed the geek in all of us and I like you for that. Very interesting and I knew half of them were but not the other half. Keep up the good work vr..
I really didn't know Lotus did help developing Lotus Omega ...... or Lotus Cortina ......... how surprising. And who would have thought that Lotus Elise with Opel engine and body have something to do with Lotus. And who would have thought that car (Sunbeam) famous only for it's Lotus engine would have Lotus engine.
VisioRacer don't worry :) just pulling your leg for that title. Your toplists are one of the better ones on YT, unique and factually correct, with tons of extra info.
Hey Visio, as a car nerd, the majority of the videos you make contain information that i already know, although i still watch them as they always entertain me. This video however was a revelation! Good job man! Keep up the good work. p.s. more engine videos please!!!!
The Lotus Carlton/Omega was a great factory sleeper. If I har to pick one of this list it would be it. A bit like early 60s Mopars , like stripped out Valiants and Darts with big hemi V8s from the factory.
You missed one. The Isuzu Impulse. "General Motors, who owned nearly half of Isuzu, also owned Lotus Cars at the time. Lotus selected the 1.6 L engine and transmission from the Isuzu Gemini for the Lotus Elan M100 and a following generation of that engine eventually ended up in the Impulse. Lotus was subcontracted by Isuzu to fine-tune the suspension of the Impulse, through selection of stiffer dampers, larger sway bars, and softer springs. All of the second generation Impulses had the Lotus-tuned suspension."
So thats why the C4 ZR1 Corvette has DOHC and 32Valves, it's totally not chevy's style to do something like this. So naturally I was wondering how something like this happened.
It was actually GM's first DOHC injected V8. The 4.6/4.0 32 valve DOHC Northstar folloed a couple years later(and lasted a lifetime until about 2009 or so. That LT5 in the 1990-92 ZR-1 was rated at 375hp/370 lb/ft torque, the 1993-1995 LT5 sported 405hp/385lb/ft torque. These cars destroyed the Ferrari Testarossa for a 1/3 the price. Ticking the ZR1 option box pretty much doubled the price of the C4 Corvette. Many guys were paying over $100,000 for the first of the ZR-1's, of which there were.3,032 made for 1990.1990=30321991-20441992-5031993=4481994=4481995-448 Total of 6922 over 6 model years. All of the engines were manufactured by the end of 1992 when it was decided that the ZR1 would be cancelled. They had a preservative squirted in the cylinders, they were sealed, wrapped and palleted and stored at Bowling Green until the cars were built of through 1992-1995.These engines feature 16 fuel injectors, 16 intake runners for upper rpm breathing, and ECU keeps half of them closed at low rpm, or when the Power Key(valet key) directs them to stay closed. The video states that 1/2 the 32 valves stop working, but all the valves work all the time. This limits output to roughly 250hp. The engine has a rev limit of 7200rpm which is great for a 350 cubic inch street engine. The ZR-1 Vettes are 3" wider at the rear to house the 17x11" rear rims with 315/35/zr17 tires.GM owned Chevrolet, and Lotus, Lotus designed the engine, Mercruiser MArine actually built the engine as GM itself had little experience with such aluminum work, while Mercruiser had lots of aluminum engine building experience.These cars can be had for really good prices right now. The actual engines are bulletproof, esp. the bottom end. It uses a 2 piece block that actually sandwiches the crank for ultimate stability and strength.Obviously the later years command higher prices, esp. a mint condition 95.
As far as I know, Aston Vanquish is actually capable of reaching 320 kph, but... on 5th gear. On 6th gear it goes indeed "only" 305 kph. Opel Lotus Omega had... Corvette ZR-1 gearbox. In that time, it was the only transmission in GM, that could handle the torque generated by that turbocharged 3.6 V6. And about Opel Speedster - it was also available with 2.2-litre, naturally-aspirated engine (which produced ~147 PS). Very good video, I didn't know about Dodge Spirit R/T!
Hey dude, great video as always!!! You have missed a few out though, whether you were trying to get them all or not i dont know. My Vauxhall Astra GSI 1996 also has some lotus bits on as standard with no mention of it anywhere.. The cylinder head and valve set-up being one.
Oh yeah woops. XD. I thaught lotus was involved with bulding the chassis. I know allot about its racing heritage but i need to read up more on how it was built.
I love your videos, though. I did notice some error in the names. The Carlton is the Vauxhall Lotus Carlton. The Cortina is the Ford-Lotus Cortina and so on. The first name is the manufacturer the bodyshell belongs to and the second name is the supplier or manufacture of the engine. It's like Aston and Lola. Aston made the body and chassis, whilst Lola made the engine.
Gotta love those vauxhall vx220 and that opal speedster. Had to race against those in the beginning of hot pursuit and unlock one of the same cars (vauxhalls) like they are practically the same vehicle just different looking.
Nice video dude (like all the others) ! Maybe you forget a recent Peugeot tuned by Lotus, which is a very good one but not so much expensive (perhaps not for a long time...) and appreciated in my country (I'm also french) : the Peugeot 206 RC, powered by a i4 N/A 2L 16v, 177hp @ 7000 RPM for a decent kerb weight of 1100 kg. Few years ago, I've tried one, and that was awesome !!!
It seems that I could make one more list of Lotus co-developed cars. I know that there are a lot more of them than this, but some of them are rather minor things or not as extensive as these.
Good idea for a second video :) in fact, you're right for the 206, coz it was just a minor upgrade, only to the motor (the original S16/GTi give ~138hp). But lots of people (including car magazines) say that she's the true descendant of our "GTi superstar", the Peugeot 205 GTi. And one more time, thx your videos, nice work !
That Lotus Sunbeam has a little bit of our Dodge Omni in it, by way of the front end. I had wanted a Dodge Spirit ES, but could never find one, but at least I can probably find a C4 Corvette ZR1 though. I wonder, if my Dodge Shadow ES was engineered by Lotus as well, that little thing was torquey as hell.
yeah the Dodge Spirit R/T was fast, but the head gaskets kept the car parked a lot of the time. I knew a person who had a R/T and in the course of a year he replaced the head gasket at least 3 times that I knew of. Great idea, but the 2.2 Chrysler engine was the wrong engine to use
So Glad the 91 Spirit R/T made the list! Most don’t even know the car ever existed, not to mention its Lotus designed heads and the power this car put out for its time. Seriously… embarrassing Mustangs, BMW,s and many more. I owned 2 of them and damn Lotus for making those aluminum heads so easy to crack 😭. That car was hands down, the fastest toaster I have ever driven .🤣 downright scary at 120 MPH.
Forgot to mention also Lotus did the suspension on the volkswagon, oh dang the name just eluded me, its the VW Sirocchio or something like that? It says SUSPENSION TUNED BY LOTUS and has the Lotus 'ACBC' acronym on the badge that says tuned by Lotus.
You can't turn off half of the valves on an lt5, you can however turn on and off another set of fuel injectors. I think you got that a little mixed up.
From the reports at the time, the DMC-12 had been originally 'specced' with the ALFA Romeo 'Busso' V6, not a Ford product. ALFA backed out at the last minute, leaving Delorean 'in the lurch'...
Shame for DMC they didn't get the magnificent Busso V6 instead of that PRV turd, but at least that means no Busso Alfa's were junked just to save a DeLorean...
+ Candisa I was thinking that it might make sense, to find a rusted-out GTV6 and transplant it's 'heart' into a DeLorean - it would re-create the DMC-12, as originally intended...
Definitely, especially if that gtv6 is too far gone anyways, but if they would have put the Busso engine in it from the get go, a lot of salvageable nice Alfa's would have been junked just for their engine by now. I personally prefer seeing someone get an engine out of Volvo 760's and old Peugeots and Renaults than out of nice Alfa's. F.e. that Volvo is better off with a B230 engine over the PRV one anyways...
@2:54 Not necessarily, limited doesn't mean the desirability is high enough to be in the focus of nutty collectors. It doesn't looks like it. Price are arround €30.000 for a long period of time.
The former Head of Technology I used to work for has one of those Omegas/Carltons. (That, and an Esprit, and a ridiculously powerful Range Rover.) According to him, it's seriously fast. Judging by the look on his face, I believed him. :)
The delorean was running like a bag of s*** but that Cortina sounded like classic old school tuned engine on big weber start problems - they often take a few goes.
Also I think they helped design the 2nd gen MR2 suspension. If interested I have my own Lotus Exige track videos on my RUclips channel. You might catch me in a spin or two or three or... ;)
I've read somewhere that Lotus helped Nissan design the spine of the GT-R (R35). However i cannot say for certain that it's either true or false since i can't find anything about it.
The likeness of the Chrysler/Talbot Sunbeam to the Dodge Omni/Plymouth Horizon is uncanny... I guess Ma Mopar--much like GM with the T-car (Chevette/Pontiac 1000)--was mainly interested in having a car to counter-balance all others they produced at the time, in order to meet CAFE mandates. It's a shame the American Chevette never got all the build-up the European models did--including a 200hp DOHC 2.3L Lotus I-4 w/Weber side-draft carbs. But then, the Omni did get built-up--with Carroll Shelby's help--into the GLH & the GLHS w/turbo-intercooled Chrysler-built SOHC 2.2L I-4... and with the Mopar Performance turbo, injectors & "tuned" SMEC (Single Module Electronic/Engine Controller), they ran 12.20s in the 1/4-mile!
back in the mid 80s this was true, but today their toyota derived engines and minimal construction means they are one of the msot reliable exotics you can buy. Lotus has never built a bad car in its history.
VisioRacer I get your point, so I _almost_ skipped the second sarcastic comment about it being a "really cool" car. It was a great performing car back in the days - as long it wasn't breaking down. Luckily the Lotus Omega did that only on rare occasions, didn't it? All the parts Lotus touched were reliable and sturdy and and hat no tendencies to fall apart every time you started the car and that's what Lotus has always been famous for. ;) But it indeed would have been a "really cool" car, if it would have been able to survive 100.000km without significant failures. The specs where superb and it even looked cool for an Opel/Vauxhall - and me saying that may sound like sarcasm, but this paragraph really isn't.
I think the one Proton car that they shouldve added here was the Proton Satria GTI. Back when it was introduced, it was almost on par with the other hot hatches of that time.
'Dodge Spirit comparable to BMW M5.' LOL Comparison can always be done, of course. Like the proverbial comparison between aplles and pears. I doubt many consumers have spent nights dubbing between those two.
Shouldn't this be called "8 cars partly engineered by Lotus you may never know they are". Also Lotus takes a very big part of all chassis, suspension, engine and other units engineering/designs as their software products are unmatchable.
The under pinning for a Aston Martin cygnet is a Toyota IQ. Lotus had no influence on that car at all as it was destined to meet our strict emissions the law governs any car company to have a maximum co2 output over all models hence Aston Turning to an incredibly efficient IQ..it was also only available to current customers and cost £32,000 new.
Idk, it does, but it can't have been made by Lotus without Chevy doing anything about it... I can't accept it XD Also I think it looks much worse than both the C3 and 5
LOTUS OMEGA twinturbo, esse carro é adorado e desejado por todos que tem e gostam de omega,,principalmente aqui no brasil que só veio o 3.0 mais manso de todos,,omega quem tem,ama
Love this channel. Very well yet briefly descripted facts, great videos used as example and not shitey music during videos like some people use. Just 100% pure car appreciation!
I appreciate your feedback, thank you very much.
Hey Visio, for the zr1 corvette, there are models that had upwards of 410 hp out of the factory. There were two different models of head that those came with. I have a 1995 zr1 with 410 hp from the factory, mainly because they got more power out of it through the later years, and there was a shortage of Dunn heads in 1995 which forced them to get another head manufactured. The new head gave the motor a better air to fuel mixture resulting in more power. Also, the top speed is 192 mph.
Just thought I'd throw it out there for you, some food for thought!
Great video as usual! I'm a big fan of these types of "look at who helped with this" videos :D
Ahh the memories of need for speed hot pursuit 2. That was a nice add in there!
Asking Lotus, the legendary chassis designer to build you an engine is a bit like asking Gordon Ramsay to design you a shoe. Lotus didn't gain their reputation off their engines! They just asked Cosworth!
Who almost fell off his chair hearing the Corvette? I was very close to that.
is the last one just a rebadge Dodge omni?
I really did, yeah. But in another way I also almost fell off my chair when I saw those fucking ugly round things (I daren't even call them wheels) under the Vanquish. That was about as inappropriate as it gets
I almost fell off my chair with that when I was playing gran tourismo on my psp😂😂
The Dodge Omni was a rebadge/redesign from the European Talbot/Chrysler Horizon.
The Talbot Sunbeam is not the same model however, altough it looks very similar.
In the 1970's the British Rootes Group (Hillman, Sunbeam, Talbot and Humber being some of the brands) was in financial crisis, and was taken over by Chrysler.
Chrysler dropped some of the brands, and some, like Sunbeam were used as a type designation rather than a brand, like on the Talbot Sunbeam.
This car was developed after the take over with British government funding to keep the Linwood plant open, and introduced on the market in 1977. (follow up for the Hillman Avenger)
The Chrysler/Simca/Talbot Horizon was designed after the French Simca factory was also taken over by Chrysler Europe, it came on the market in 1978, it's engineering was done by Simca while the design came from the British Chrysler headquarters. (Follow up for the Simca 1100)
It was even car of the year in 1978!, altough we now remember it as a very poorly built car, which quickly vanished from the streets as rot took it's toll (like many other contemporary cars of that time)
It was only sold under Chrysler branding in the UK and Simca in Europe in the first year, as the French PSA (Peugeot and Citroën) bought Chrysler Europe in 1978, thereafter that car was sold as Talbot Horizon.
The Dodge Omni ( and Plymouth Horizon) were based on the European Horizon, but redsigned, they had Mc Pherson instead of torsion bar front suspension, different larger engines (VW, PSA and Chrysler) and almost nothing of the body panels was interchangable as well, so they were essentialy a different model.
It stayed a own model for Chrysler USA after Chrysler Europa was sold to PSA.
The main difference between the Talbot Horizon/Dodge Omni and Talbot Sunbeam however is that the first 2 have FWD while the latter one has RWD.
This story is a bit complicated, and it was!
I almost fell of my chair when i saw that aston at 1:50+
You feed the geek in all of us and I like you for that. Very interesting and I knew half of them were but not the other half. Keep up the good work vr..
I am glad you liked it, thanks
Only God know how much I love the Lotus Cortina !
I really didn't know Lotus did help developing Lotus Omega ...... or Lotus Cortina ......... how surprising.
And who would have thought that Lotus Elise with Opel engine and body have something to do with Lotus.
And who would have thought that car (Sunbeam) famous only for it's Lotus engine would have Lotus engine.
Calm down, mate. There are plenty of people who don't even know the Lotus Omega or Talbot Sunbeam or Cortina Lotus.
VisioRacer don't worry :) just pulling your leg for that title. Your toplists are one of the better ones on YT, unique and factually correct, with tons of extra info.
Thanks
Proton , Satria is also engineered by Lotus
Yes that cool underrated hot hatch
Man that LT5 Corvette motor sounds amazing the Lotus engineers did an outstanding job with this engine. Now that's a corvette motor.
Hey Visio, as a car nerd, the majority of the videos you make contain information that i already know, although i still watch them as they always entertain me.
This video however was a revelation!
Good job man! Keep up the good work.
p.s. more engine videos please!!!!
Thank you :)
VisioRacer You're welcome.
The Lotus Carlton/Omega was a great factory sleeper. If I har to pick one of this list it would be it. A bit like early 60s Mopars , like stripped out Valiants and Darts with big hemi V8s from the factory.
Vauxhall Lotus Carlton and Vauxhall VX220 are awesome cars!
Do one on cosworth engineered vehicles
as well as Yamaha ones
don't forget the Atom if you do so !
Don't forget to include the F1 car powered by a Yamaha engine.
3 more cars that had Lotus involvement were the Isuzu Impulse (or Stylus?), Gen 1 Toyota MR2, and the Tesla Roadster
Don't forget Celica Supra and Cressida had lotus irs
fuckin a!
how about cadillacs northstar 32 valve v8? sweet engine that couldve been done better.
You missed one. The Isuzu Impulse.
"General Motors, who owned nearly half of Isuzu, also owned Lotus Cars at the time. Lotus selected the 1.6 L engine and transmission from the Isuzu Gemini for the Lotus Elan M100 and a following generation of that engine eventually ended up in the Impulse. Lotus was subcontracted by Isuzu to fine-tune the suspension of the Impulse, through selection of stiffer dampers, larger sway bars, and softer springs. All of the second generation Impulses had the Lotus-tuned suspension."
Love your videos!!!! Here is one you forgot though. The Isuzu I-Mark Turbo with handling by Lotus.
So thats why the C4 ZR1 Corvette has DOHC and 32Valves, it's totally not chevy's style to do something like this. So naturally I was wondering how something like this happened.
It was actually GM's first DOHC injected V8. The 4.6/4.0 32 valve DOHC Northstar folloed a couple years later(and lasted a lifetime until about 2009 or so. That LT5 in the 1990-92 ZR-1 was rated at 375hp/370 lb/ft torque, the 1993-1995 LT5 sported 405hp/385lb/ft torque. These cars destroyed the Ferrari Testarossa for a 1/3 the price. Ticking the ZR1 option box pretty much doubled the price of the C4 Corvette. Many guys were paying over $100,000 for the first of the ZR-1's, of which there were.3,032 made for 1990.1990=30321991-20441992-5031993=4481994=4481995-448 Total of 6922 over 6 model years. All of the engines were manufactured by the end of 1992 when it was decided that the ZR1 would be cancelled. They had a preservative squirted in the cylinders, they were sealed, wrapped and palleted and stored at Bowling Green until the cars were built of through 1992-1995.These engines feature 16 fuel injectors, 16 intake runners for upper rpm breathing, and ECU keeps half of them closed at low rpm, or when the Power Key(valet key) directs them to stay closed. The video states that 1/2 the 32 valves stop working, but all the valves work all the time. This limits output to roughly 250hp. The engine has a rev limit of 7200rpm which is great for a 350 cubic inch street engine. The ZR-1 Vettes are 3" wider at the rear to house the 17x11" rear rims with 315/35/zr17 tires.GM owned Chevrolet, and Lotus, Lotus designed the engine, Mercruiser MArine actually built the engine as GM itself had little experience with such aluminum work, while Mercruiser had lots of aluminum engine building experience.These cars can be had for really good prices right now. The actual engines are bulletproof, esp. the bottom end. It uses a 2 piece block that actually sandwiches the crank for ultimate stability and strength.Obviously the later years command higher prices, esp. a mint condition 95.
What makes that Talbot really stand out that it's a hot hatch with RWD. Fun!
As far as I know, Aston Vanquish is actually capable of reaching 320 kph, but... on 5th gear. On 6th gear it goes indeed "only" 305 kph.
Opel Lotus Omega had... Corvette ZR-1 gearbox. In that time, it was the only transmission in GM, that could handle the torque generated by that turbocharged 3.6 V6.
And about Opel Speedster - it was also available with 2.2-litre, naturally-aspirated engine (which produced ~147 PS).
Very good video, I didn't know about Dodge Spirit R/T!
Hey dude, great video as always!!! You have missed a few out though, whether you were trying to get them all or not i dont know. My Vauxhall Astra GSI 1996 also has some lotus bits on as standard with no mention of it anywhere.. The cylinder head and valve set-up being one.
The chassis of the Astra G was developed by Lotus, this was during the time when GM owned Lotus.
Just an addendum. The LT5 was built by Mercury Marine. It pioneered reverse cooling and used no head gaskets. Just a precision metal on metal fit.
Forgot the Opel Tigra, its had its suspension tuned by lotus to improve the handling.
Astra G has too.
8 lotus engineered cars you may not know about and then you come with a LOTUS omega or a ford cortina LOTUS :D
great vids, but id suggest making the font on your captions a larger size
I was suprised the ford GT40 wasn't on this list. Still a awsome collection of cars though.
Apart from the rims on that astin.
you don't really know the history of the gt40 then :d it's an interesting story look it up :)(if you want)
Oh yeah woops. XD. I thaught lotus was involved with bulding the chassis.
I know allot about its racing heritage but i need to read up more on how it was built.
Ah! ok.
thanks for the information. this makes a lot more sense to me now.👍
Wow thats cool.
I can definitely see a lot of design similarities between the lola and gt40.
I love your videos, though. I did notice some error in the names. The Carlton is the Vauxhall Lotus Carlton. The Cortina is the Ford-Lotus Cortina and so on. The first name is the manufacturer the bodyshell belongs to and the second name is the supplier or manufacture of the engine. It's like Aston and Lola. Aston made the body and chassis, whilst Lola made the engine.
The Dodge Spirit R/T was the ultimate sleeper. Had one for a while and beat a lot of quick cars at that time. Best 14.5 @104
that corvette sounds mean with lotus v8 engine
Yeah, absolutely.
and i LOVE how it's shooting when its on high rpm and you
It's just the DOHC heads, not the entire engine.
Only Murican V8 that sounds good, obviously you've
Gotta love those vauxhall vx220 and that opal speedster.
Had to race against those in the beginning of hot pursuit and unlock one of the same cars (vauxhalls) like they are practically the same vehicle just different looking.
Here in the US that Lotus or Vauxhall was sold with Saturn badges as well as Pontiac Soltice.
Nice video dude (like all the others) ! Maybe you forget a recent Peugeot tuned by Lotus, which is a very good one but not so much expensive (perhaps not for a long time...) and appreciated in my country (I'm also french) : the Peugeot 206 RC, powered by a i4 N/A 2L 16v, 177hp @ 7000 RPM for a decent kerb weight of 1100 kg. Few years ago, I've tried one, and that was awesome !!!
It seems that I could make one more list of Lotus co-developed cars. I know that there are a lot more of them than this, but some of them are rather minor things or not as extensive as these.
Good idea for a second video :) in fact, you're right for the 206, coz it was just a minor upgrade, only to the motor (the original S16/GTi give ~138hp). But lots of people (including car magazines) say that she's the true descendant of our "GTi superstar", the Peugeot 205 GTi. And one more time, thx your videos, nice work !
I am glad you left this comment here. Thank you for your feedback.
Lotus was also involved in making the Toyota Celica MK3 thus several Toyota parts can be found on the Lotus Excel
That Lotus Sunbeam has a little bit of our Dodge Omni in it, by way of the front end. I had wanted a Dodge Spirit ES, but could never find one, but at least I can probably find a C4 Corvette ZR1 though. I wonder, if my Dodge Shadow ES was engineered by Lotus as well, that little thing was torquey as hell.
the c4 zr1 had a 16 injectors the key turned off half of them. it's the valet key. also in 93 the power output was raised to 400 hp.
yeah the Dodge Spirit R/T was fast, but the head gaskets kept the car parked a lot of the time. I knew a person who had a R/T and in the course of a year he replaced the head gasket at least 3 times that I knew of. Great idea, but the 2.2 Chrysler engine was the wrong engine to use
GTR?? Well says Jeremy Clarkson "I was going to say how lotus secretly developed the spine of this car."
"If you never heard of the Opel Speedster or the Vauxhall VX220, you never played Need for Speed Hot Pursuit II"
true shit right there 😂😂
So Glad the 91 Spirit R/T made the list! Most don’t even know the car ever existed, not to mention its Lotus designed heads and the power this car put out for its time. Seriously… embarrassing Mustangs, BMW,s and many more. I owned 2 of them and damn Lotus for making those aluminum heads so easy to crack 😭. That car was hands down, the fastest toaster I have ever driven .🤣 downright scary at 120 MPH.
Proton satria NEO also
I suspected the 1988 Fiero would be left out. Complete suspension designed by Lotus.
Yeah cause the only place you'll see the vanquish v12 is at the gas station LMAO 1:50
Forgot to mention also Lotus did the suspension on the volkswagon, oh dang the name just eluded me, its the VW Sirocchio or something like that? It says SUSPENSION TUNED BY LOTUS and has the Lotus 'ACBC' acronym on the badge that says tuned by Lotus.
You can't turn off half of the valves on an lt5, you can however turn on and off another set of fuel injectors. I think you got that a little mixed up.
... I feel most people did know that the delorean was tuned by lotus in the suspension
Quite suprised that you didn't included Proton especially Proton Satria GTi and Proton Preve , Suprima as Lotus helped them build the cars.
Spyker too.
From the reports at the time, the DMC-12 had been originally 'specced' with the ALFA Romeo 'Busso' V6, not a Ford product. ALFA backed out at the last minute, leaving Delorean 'in the lurch'...
Shame for DMC they didn't get the magnificent Busso V6 instead of that PRV turd, but at least that means no Busso Alfa's were junked just to save a DeLorean...
+ Candisa I was thinking that it might make sense, to find a rusted-out GTV6 and transplant it's 'heart' into a DeLorean - it would re-create the DMC-12, as originally intended...
Definitely, especially if that gtv6 is too far gone anyways, but if they would have put the Busso engine in it from the get go, a lot of salvageable nice Alfa's would have been junked just for their engine by now. I personally prefer seeing someone get an engine out of Volvo 760's and old Peugeots and Renaults than out of nice Alfa's. F.e. that Volvo is better off with a B230 engine over the PRV one anyways...
+ Candisa Interesting point...
@2:54 Not necessarily, limited doesn't mean the desirability is high enough to be in the focus of nutty collectors. It doesn't looks like it. Price are arround €30.000 for a long period of time.
The former Head of Technology I used to work for has one of those Omegas/Carltons. (That, and an Esprit, and a ridiculously powerful Range Rover.) According to him, it's seriously fast. Judging by the look on his face, I believed him. :)
You could have included the Mark II Celica Supra. Yamaha powered, Lotus suspension.
Holy shit that LT5 sounds soooo good!
I love how in half of the vids the car isnt running right XD like the first cortina and the first delorean
The delorean was running like a bag of s*** but that Cortina sounded like classic old school tuned engine on big weber start problems - they often take a few goes.
HFStuart yeah ok! Thanks for explaining!
The Celica Supra/ Cressida of the 80s had a IRS setup designed by lotus. Fun Fact
I know The Aston Martin 6.0L V12 is based on Ford's two 3.0L Duretec V6s.
Lotus Sunbeams are awesome. The original super hatch
you should do one on some of the best unexpected drift cars...... such as any rwd volvo wagon lol
they're not unexpected in Ireland ahaha
you forgot a few, ford escort mk1 twin cam, a bunch of malaysian protons and the tesla roadster
I like the Talbot. I mean, where else are you going to find a front engine, RWD hatch that’s not an 86 but still has racing pedigree
I think they also designed Tesla Roadster
sinclair c5, vanwall are two notable cars lotus helped with.
Also I think they helped design the 2nd gen MR2 suspension. If interested I have my own Lotus Exige track videos on my RUclips channel. You might catch me in a spin or two or three or... ;)
I've read somewhere that Lotus helped Nissan design the spine of the GT-R (R35). However i cannot say for certain that it's either true or false since i can't find anything about it.
They did, I read that too. I think they helped with the suspension tuning.
I think the MKII and MKIII Supras also had some sort of lotus engineering in them; howoever, I could be wrong.
Mark II - chassis by lotus (or at least Colin Chapman)
My buddies 87 Trans Am GTA had a badge on the glove box that said suspension buy Lotus
The likeness of the Chrysler/Talbot Sunbeam to the Dodge Omni/Plymouth Horizon is uncanny... I guess Ma Mopar--much like GM with the T-car (Chevette/Pontiac 1000)--was mainly interested in having a car to counter-balance all others they produced at the time, in order to meet CAFE mandates. It's a shame the American Chevette never got all the build-up the European models did--including a 200hp DOHC 2.3L Lotus I-4 w/Weber side-draft carbs. But then, the Omni did get built-up--with Carroll Shelby's help--into the GLH & the GLHS w/turbo-intercooled Chrysler-built SOHC 2.2L I-4... and with the Mopar Performance turbo, injectors & "tuned" SMEC (Single Module Electronic/Engine Controller), they ran 12.20s in the 1/4-mile!
Lotus Carlton. It rocks.
The Pontiac Fiero had a suspension tuned by Lotus.
LOTUS = Lots Of Trouble, Usually Serious.
but it can tackle the Patagonia trip just fine (y) which is unusual lol
back in the mid 80s this was true, but today their toyota derived engines and minimal construction means they are one of the msot reliable exotics you can buy. Lotus has never built a bad car in its history.
0:58 the eargasm is real!!!!
The Lotus Omega was engineered by Lotus? Reaaaaaaaaaaally? That is amazing, how did you find out?
The point was to show really cool cars that are not known as widely as you may think. Therefore your sarcasm is not relevant :)
VisioRacer I get your point, so I _almost_ skipped the second sarcastic comment about it being a "really cool" car. It was a great performing car back in the days - as long it wasn't breaking down.
Luckily the Lotus Omega did that only on rare occasions, didn't it? All the parts Lotus touched were reliable and sturdy and and hat no tendencies to fall apart every time you started the car and that's what Lotus has always been famous for. ;)
But it indeed would have been a "really cool" car, if it would have been able to survive 100.000km without significant failures. The specs where superb and it even looked cool for an Opel/Vauxhall - and me saying that may sound like sarcasm, but this paragraph really isn't.
You know, cars can be cool even without being reliable or durable.
Depends. My car has to run 4-5k miles per month, so I'd prefer reliability - and luckily, there are cars that have power and are durable. ;)
Love the ZR-1
Lotus engineered the chassis for the mk2 Supra, and the MR2 from the same era.
I'm surprised you didn't even put 1 proton in it...... proton has a lot of cars made by lotus and few people know about it
Plus, Proton currently own Lotus.
So *that's* why the Proton is the nicest handling car in my old rally game.
I think the one Proton car that they shouldve added here was the Proton Satria GTI. Back when it was introduced, it was almost on par with the other hot hatches of that time.
+davidrobert2007 dammit u stole what I want to say...
Aren't Protons basically Mitsubishis now?
ist the omega the carlton?
yes, he said it in the details that there are many names to it
Carlton only for UK rest of Europe it's called Omega
2:59 That´s my hometown in austria! :-)
Try 8 cars designed by Pininfarina,I heard they built a few they aren't proud of.
Lol I was expecting a bunch of Protons, nobody knows about those.
Same!
must be a Malaysian
'Dodge Spirit comparable to BMW M5.'
LOL
Comparison can always be done, of course. Like the proverbial comparison between aplles and pears.
I doubt many consumers have spent nights dubbing between those two.
ZR1 are cool, but the ls1's deliver similar power for less money. Still sounded awesome, though
Yamaha developed engines next?
Yes
yes!
+VisioRacer WHY DID U FORGOT THE MAGNIFICIENT ISUZU PIAZZA TURBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY!!!!!!
Love that car. I believe Lotus only worked on the suspension bits, at least that's what it said in GT4
You forgot about the r35 gtr and the madindra scorpio whose suspension was tuned by lotus
Spirit RT is possible the best sleeper ever, pulls on 5.0s and vettes of the same year
The vanquish isn't still being made is it?
It is, I think I mentioned it is still built in present.
Really? Wow I thought they stopped making it.
The first generation is not being made today, of course, but the second gen is here and they are still making them. Platform is the same.
Ah ok thanks man. Good video, pretty interesting.
Thanks
Jensen-Healey had a lotus engine: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jensen-HealeyIsuzu Piazza: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isuzu_PiazzaVolvo 480: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_480Spyker B6: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spyker_B6Hyundai Genesis: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_GenesisProton Satria en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_Satria
did you know there were a couple of 'one off' white Lotus Catltons/Omegas!!!
the opel speedster video was filmed in laren north holland the netherlands
correct
Proton?
Opel Lotus Omega = Best car
Shouldn't this be called "8 cars partly engineered by Lotus you may never know they are".
Also Lotus takes a very big part of all chassis, suspension, engine and other units engineering/designs as their software products are unmatchable.
Aston v12 is still produced today?
Yes, the Vanquish is still being produced, however as the second generation.
The under pinning for a Aston Martin cygnet is a Toyota IQ. Lotus had no influence on that car at all as it was destined to meet our strict emissions the law governs any car company to have a maximum co2 output over all models hence Aston Turning to an incredibly efficient IQ..it was also only available to current customers and cost £32,000 new.
Is there somebody saying it is the same Aston Martin VH platform?
That Dodge was tuned by Shelby here in america
This video is a bit pointless without the Satria Gti. I saw the Omega and the Cortina and thought the Satria was bound to be next
lotus: lots of troubles usualy serious.
And what about the Isuzu Gemini ?
Well the C4 Corvette is my least favourite vette, so now I know why XD
I think it is my most favorite Corvette from now, sounds wicked.
Idk, it does, but it can't have been made by Lotus without Chevy doing anything about it... I can't accept it XD Also I think it looks much worse than both the C3 and 5
i came for the carlton
LOTUS OMEGA twinturbo, esse carro é adorado e desejado por todos que tem e gostam de omega,,principalmente aqui no brasil que só veio o 3.0 mais manso de todos,,omega quem tem,ama