One thing i feel is worth pointing out about the radar is that its MTI mode doesnt have IFF The amount of 23MLs I've seen trying their luck in sim keep teamkilling everyone is insane
@@RT42069yeah, I managed to rack up a 100k SL bill from trying sim in the F4S, with 3 TK's. Luckily I had afew 10k wagers and a T14 to earn it back (getting 5 kills with the T14 is criminally easy) but still hurt.
the R-24R is a beautiful missile, but the radar on the mig23 shafts it. you can out joust an aim7 from closer ranges, however in a longer range engagement the 7 would win
@@gipsydanger1394 yeah, but the problem is you can't use that any higher than 1800m above the ground. then you have to use LD, which is a shitty simulated pulse doppler
One of my most annoying matches. One guy left, just hovers around his airfield. Comes out to kill an AI and as soon as a player gets near him runs to his airfield. He’s already gonna lose on points. He does this 3 times. I ended up just chasing him back and firing ALL the ammo I can before getting pilot sniped by airfield AA. Right after that I get the kill notification. Definitely told him he was an arsehole and a 🐈⬛
What kind of files are you using? I see [E] and [L] in names, probably for early and late. Can you share your lang files? I can never find the correct strings in there
Since alot of top tier is just missile lobbing, even with a terrible crew you can still do well. And you should quickly be able to train up the crew after a couple dozen games in it.
just wanna say a lot of people esp CCs say this (don't run, fight!) but considering how the economy is to F2P players its a ridiculous notion to expect players to try and fight a losing battle. i mean, you aren't entitled to getting kills but you do have a right to self defence and using game mechanics to do so isn't at all wrong. i hate repair costs and so does 90% of the F2p player base.
This is what I'm talking about for F5C players such as myself. They can't do ANYTHING against the Mig 23s, F14s and Tornadoes. Matchmaking for F5Cs is awful
Ehhh not really the F-5 is a very capable plane still sure the missiles are fucked but the guns and FM can still carry you even in a up tier, but you’re 10.3 not 11.3 so not every game is 11.3, you also can’t fight the F-14 anymore, the tornado you can out turn easily the mig-23 you can also outturn if you know what you’re doing.
@@ToreDL87 it's people wanting it to handhold them the f5c essentially does it's flight performance is near to the f16 without the thrust to weight ratios and better wing and aerodynamic shapes etc.
@@GeneralLee2000 thanks. been eyeballing it but didn't know if things had gotten better or worse with the f16/f14 out. My main plane rn is the 21mf but iv'e never played top tier
@@itmejac6945 only if the target is completely oblivious and keeps flying straight towards you, but yeah usually I would never shoot anything from that range besides an ER or a Phoenix
I think it would be great if the radar actually kept locks. Even in headons in MTI it loses locks, so the Radar missiles are trashed. I don't think I've ever killed anyone with a radar missile. I only use all IR missiles now, which puts me at a HUGE disadvantage having to get close enough, because F-16 always just slam me with an Aim-7F from every angle. I've tried notching and chaff a dozen times and they still hit me every time. It's still a great aircraft and very powerful in the right hands, but is severely punished by the BR. IRL the F-5 could run circles around the MiG-23 and absolutely demolish them, yet Gaijin thinks it's okay to have the 23 a full BR higher than the F-5, and have it face F-16 and MiG-29... Gaijin honestly have NO idea what they are doing with this game. Also having F-4 Phantom IIs fight against the aircraft that were created to replace them? What in the actual hell, Gaijin?..
I hate to say it, but the Mig 23 ML is incredibly strong. The radar is quite nice and the R-24R works great for jousting. An F-5E can do nothing to a good Mig 23 ML/MLA player. The R24T is nice, but doubling up on IR feels like one hand is tied behind my back. The Mig-23ML can compete with the F-16 and the F-14, its really the Mig-29 that gives it the most trouble. It all boils down the skill issue, which is not the most terrible thing as that can be fixed
It seems a missed at least one time where I said R-27 instead of R-24 by accident, to be totally clear it has R-24R and T
Thanks for this video, I remember asking for u to play it in a stream and you said you will. Looking forward to finish watching it :)
Hey man, great video! Should I get this one or the su-25k to grind ussr tech tree?
@@davidefraanje9843this plane is probably more beginner friendly
One thing i feel is worth pointing out about the radar is that its MTI mode doesnt have IFF
The amount of 23MLs I've seen trying their luck in sim keep teamkilling everyone is insane
This is very true
Same with the F-4S's PDV mode
@@RT42069yeah, I managed to rack up a 100k SL bill from trying sim in the F4S, with 3 TK's. Luckily I had afew 10k wagers and a T14 to earn it back (getting 5 kills with the T14 is criminally easy) but still hurt.
Got the plane a few days ago, and I love it.
Glad to hear that! o7
Love your videos o7.
One of the best premiums for sure!
Very much so
Hi dawinz, guess who also owns this flogger
2:11 BRUH, that "hit simulator" mod or w/e had me DYING x'D
jokes on you lee i want the 27k so i can be hated by the entire GRB community
You monster!
At close range in my experiance r24r is better than aim7f as a missile but it loses radar wise to f4s.
the R-24R is a beautiful missile, but the radar on the mig23 shafts it. you can out joust an aim7 from closer ranges, however in a longer range engagement the 7 would win
@@alphaplayzz1381 I use the mti on the ml and it works great. Basically an early version of pulse doppler
@@gipsydanger1394 yeah, but the problem is you can't use that any higher than 1800m above the ground. then you have to use LD, which is a shitty simulated pulse doppler
@@alphaplayzz1381 yea thats true. I usually stick low in the ML so it just works wonders for me.
Mig23s are the hardest jets to fly but so rewarding once you master iy
It's great at grinding!
True!
One of my most annoying matches. One guy left, just hovers around his airfield. Comes out to kill an AI and as soon as a player gets near him runs to his airfield. He’s already gonna lose on points. He does this 3 times. I ended up just chasing him back and firing ALL the ammo I can before getting pilot sniped by airfield AA. Right after that I get the kill notification. Definitely told him he was an arsehole and a 🐈⬛
Another masterpiece
Another Trotta comment o7
@@GeneralLee2000 :D
What kind of files are you using? I see [E] and [L] in names, probably for early and late. Can you share your lang files? I can never find the correct strings in there
I would get one if I had a crew for it, dude would probably black out at a slight pull lol
I mean you do get 2500 Ge so you can buy crew points
Since alot of top tier is just missile lobbing, even with a terrible crew you can still do well. And you should quickly be able to train up the crew after a couple dozen games in it.
@@cookiecraze1310 yea it does not take long at all
Cre gets done quickly with premiujm
Watch the snail nerf it to shit as soon as they notice a drop in sales for it.
you forgot to mention that its nothing but uptiers in 2024
My bad, I should have included that in the video from more than a year ago
@@GeneralLee2000 exactly 😂
I just wanna know how to fire the rock with the missle seeker on ps5
Wish my wallet could afford it. (2)
2:01 I gotta go play this thing again, it got R-27s??
R-24, I misspoke. Thought I caught that on recording, my apologies
@@GeneralLee2000 nah I know you made a mistake, I was just attempting an funny. no apologies needed
its 1st gen fighter mig 23 not upgraded, MLD is upgraded 3th gen!
just wanna say a lot of people esp CCs say this (don't run, fight!) but considering how the economy is to F2P players its a ridiculous notion to expect players to try and fight a losing battle. i mean, you aren't entitled to getting kills but you do have a right to self defence and using game mechanics to do so isn't at all wrong. i hate repair costs and so does 90% of the F2p player base.
This is what I'm talking about for F5C players such as myself. They can't do ANYTHING against the Mig 23s, F14s and Tornadoes. Matchmaking for F5Cs is awful
Ehhh not really the F-5 is a very capable plane still sure the missiles are fucked but the guns and FM can still carry you even in a up tier, but you’re 10.3 not 11.3 so not every game is 11.3, you also can’t fight the F-14 anymore, the tornado you can out turn easily the mig-23 you can also outturn if you know what you’re doing.
@immolation Alies in my games I get full uptiers in the F5C. I have videos fighting against Mig 21s, 23s, F14s and Tornadoes....
F5C still has Chaff/Flare, can still turn dark, and is still fiercely competitive in a close fight.
@@ToreDL87 it's people wanting it to handhold them the f5c essentially does it's flight performance is near to the f16 without the thrust to weight ratios and better wing and aerodynamic shapes etc.
the f5c hardly gets full uptiers, (anymore) is normally facing against low tier migs and f104s and su25, a5cs, etc
this plane still good? how often does it get matched with 12.0?
12.0 basically every game, and it's in about the same state it was yeah
@@GeneralLee2000 thanks. been eyeballing it but didn't know if things had gotten better or worse with the f16/f14 out. My main plane rn is the 21mf but iv'e never played top tier
Why fight when you can possibly win?
I've gotten my longest ranged kill (20 miles) with an R24R from this plane
Had no idea they could go that far
@@itmejac6945 only if the target is completely oblivious and keeps flying straight towards you, but yeah usually I would never shoot anything from that range besides an ER or a Phoenix
@@itmejac6945 also this was way back before missiles had realistic drag
@@RT42069 ohhh right I forgot they got updated
@@itmejac6945 yeah, this is when you could hit from 3.5 miles with a 9L through flares
I will always be an r24r person.
Fair and valid opinion
I want the ML pls....
Blud is NOT buying it for you lmao keep dreaming
Please teach me how to grind mig 29… Wish my wallet could afford it. (3)
Shoot planes down. Don't die. Earn RP. ))))))
bomb a lot, way more efficient, i researched full tree in about 2 weeks
Is it just me who uses the R-60m for long range as they travel up to 12k on the ml
I think it would be great if the radar actually kept locks. Even in headons in MTI it loses locks, so the Radar missiles are trashed. I don't think I've ever killed anyone with a radar missile. I only use all IR missiles now, which puts me at a HUGE disadvantage having to get close enough, because F-16 always just slam me with an Aim-7F from every angle. I've tried notching and chaff a dozen times and they still hit me every time.
It's still a great aircraft and very powerful in the right hands, but is severely punished by the BR. IRL the F-5 could run circles around the MiG-23 and absolutely demolish them, yet Gaijin thinks it's okay to have the 23 a full BR higher than the F-5, and have it face F-16 and MiG-29... Gaijin honestly have NO idea what they are doing with this game. Also having F-4 Phantom IIs fight against the aircraft that were created to replace them? What in the actual hell, Gaijin?..
I hate to say it, but the Mig 23 ML is incredibly strong. The radar is quite nice and the R-24R works great for jousting. An F-5E can do nothing to a good Mig 23 ML/MLA player. The R24T is nice, but doubling up on IR feels like one hand is tied behind my back.
The Mig-23ML can compete with the F-16 and the F-14, its really the Mig-29 that gives it the most trouble.
It all boils down the skill issue, which is not the most terrible thing as that can be fixed
How the hell are you losing to F5s lol. F5s might be more maneuverable but Mig23s are faster, have better missiles
@@ithofar but the thing is you play 12.00 %80 of the time
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I prefer the mig-27 because gUn but the mig-23 is cool too
Much monee :(
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