Exactly All these videos they just can't stop talking. Show us all the techniques in the first 2 minutes and then you can blab on and we can skip your video
Except there is not actually anything in this video to do to help the issue. Don't overwork/Don't underwork is basically what he says. What does the video actually have you do to fix the issue?
What an excellent resource. And he was right, he tells us things you don't hear when you are searching for information out there (even from other PTs). My bent elbow sleeping position never occurred to me! No wonder.
Hey mate, first off I'd like to begin by saying in my own personal experience the information you have given in this video is very helpful. secondly I'd like to thank you for making and posting this video as without a friend of mine in the same field as your own, I would not have solved this issue on my own so it will be extremely helpful to others. Future viewers, if you fit the descriptions he speaks of, listen to the knowledge this man is offering.
Excellent info, I’ve 80% recovered from this nasty condition. PRP injections helped my healing journey, 3 years I’ve been recovering, after injections in both elbows 2 times it took me 6 months to gain strength and function without pain. My strength isn’t what it used to be, such is life now. Best wishes to all who read this, good luck with your recovery. 30 years of hard yakka
I had Prp injections after 1.5 yrs of pain. Doc said I had smutz for tendons... Basically nothing much left. All dark gray on the ultrasound where a healthy tendon would show white. Both elbows. Injections in May last year, then again in September. First time it was two weeks till I could drive. Two months before I had decent mobility again. After second set I was driving in two days, mobility in a week. By November I felt better than before the may injections. December ultrasound showed almost completely healthy tendons but I still had pain. Physical therapy for 6 months... A little more progress. Another 6 months and here I am still with some minor pain (almost constant). Thankfully this year I've been able to do my job at half throttle ( concrete finishing). I can drink coffee pain free and open door knobs pain free. So fairly happy. But would love to get rid of the residual pain and gain the other 50% strength back. I've been trying flossing of the arms. That gives short term relief and maybe some longer term healing. Just last two weeks I'm trying muscle scraping on one elbow. Seems to help a tiny bit. Will continue that for a couple more weeks. Frustrating that this started in October 2019 and I'm still in semi rough shape. I'm 42 so I understand that I heal super l slower than I used too... I'll keep searching and trying
@@miltonemsheimer9049 I feel your pain man, literally. you've described my story somewhat - minor differences being, the ultrasound shows BLACK rather than dark grey! and here's the thing, I think it's because I stopped training (ex-boxer for 2+ decades) and took a very lazy / sitting typing / driving life-style. (I'm guessing!)
@@miltonemsheimer9049 really try Tyler Twists. I've had this condition for years on and off . Each time now I get the theraband flex bar....I use green...and it's gone within a day or two (needed a couple of weeks first time).
I have complained to my PT that my elbow hurts every morning because I can not find a good position to place my elbow to sleep. Could you please demonstrate what position is best for sleeping to relieve the overnight pain? Especially for sleeping on your side. Thank you for a great video.
My elbow pains even if I touch it a little I can't even lift my 3yr old kid and throwing or making a first hurts dearly been 2years now.even thought I had avn since I did a hip replacement or is it possible
Dear Physiotherapist, i have both tennis elbow and golfer elbow pains since 4 months due to gym exercises i started in 46 years. In 2 months i developed thid. I also feel tendin tension in biceps now. Plz upload a video for this condition where all the arms tendons do pain. Thanks
PLEASE READ : I had tennis elbow for nearly 2 years and I found the cure that worked for me, revealed now: Before this, I tried all the normal stretching of the forearm and wrist and the other combos usually prescribed, dozens of snake oils, ointments anti-inflammatories, tried lots of different physios , ice, heat lamp, RICE, even massaging and stretching the opposite elbow in a homeopathic kind of way, blade massaging, hard ball , soft ball massage - no luck. No difference. Tried modifying the diet, didn't seem to help. The cure only came after searching and trying hundreds of youtube vidoes whereupon I eventually found the two gold nuggets required, so credit where credit's due. One: If you search for the AthleanX channel and tennis elbow, you will find the channel presenter Jeff suggesting that in his experience, elbow problems of this nature stem from the *shoulders,* not the elbow itself - the rationale being that the shoulders form part of a dynamic chain of arm movement: Stiff, inflexible shoulders and / or bad posture means the elbow tendons are always overworking and the long-term fix was to sort your shoulders / posture out. Interesting, I thought. The vid is here: ruclips.net/video/qTjDq3_D-FU/видео.html Two: I then searched further and after trying dozens of different posture / shoulder stretch exercises I found the magic one required : the W stretch. Sometimes combined in a combination called the YTWL stretch. There are more and more vids appearing on this now, but here's a good one: ruclips.net/video/6C-wfV27bzI/видео.html - the guy in this goes through a bunch of great exercises, and I'm sure they are all good but personally it was the 'W' stretch he demonstrates that worked for me. I never force my shoulders back doing this - I hold the W with the tiniest of force.. I found it is MUCH better to stretch gently for a longer period of time ( like a minute ) that to press hard for a short time. I couldn't believe it but the TE had virtually disappeared after 2 weeks of just doing this quick routine twice a day. If all else has failed, like the title of this suggests, it may be worth giving a go. Also as I said before, don't waste your money - I never found ANY topical ointment that made the slightest difference to the condition. The suggestions in the Focus Physical Therapy vid all sound like good advice to me, definitely worth taking this advice as well, no point aggravating the elbow further. Remember however the W exercise can be done seated or standing and only takes a few minutes a day. I would be interested in hearing this channel presenter's comments on this idea of the shoulders being the root cause. In my view it could well be that the elbow is suffering a long-term overuse injury, but the inflexibility of the shoulders is preventing healing from taking place. Whatever, I am not a physio, just a guy who had this condition real bad for two years and tried everything (except shockwave therapy and surgery) and I'm just passing on the cure that worked for me. I do this W stretch a couple of times day now every day to maintain health, and I suggest that would be a good idea even after your TE is better, to help prevent it happening again. Good luck.
Hi @nickpounder1757. Thanks for your post. I've had golfer's elbow as opposed to tennis elbow. Do you think the W stretch could help golfers elbow pain? I've had the pain over a year now.
Hiya. Well, I had that too, I got it from doing pull-ups using two parallel bars as opposed to a single bar. Turns out this is excellent for the lats, but truly awful for putting strain on the elbow! In this case, the solution was to stop doing that sort of pull-up, and as a rehab I've found two things are very good: The 'waiters' stretch whereby you hold your arm back straight and twist your hand outwards and hold for a period, say a minute, that was helpful. I can't remember the vid but if you do a youtube search on 'golfers elbow waiters exercise' you should pick it up. Secondly, there is a kind of stretch that seems to popular with arm wrestlers. There's different ways of doing this but say I am seated, I place my arms straight so the hands are against the inside of the knees , with the palm side up - this is important, and making a fist. I then push GENTLY in with the knees and resist the push with the hands. Much better I think to do this really gently but hold for a much longer period of time. This one really helps. Lastly, a technique that seems to be gaining popularity is 'voodoo flossing' you might want to google that, but basically this involves getting a strip of physio band and wrapping it semi tight around the tendons where the issue is and performing gentle slow, very low-weight exercises. I've only just started trying this for some other injury, so can't report back but it's out there if you want. My last bit of advice is - don't bother with steroid injections for this kind of injury. I have a hip tendinosis and in desperation I went for a jab recently, but overall I'd say it's just made it worse. I think these things I'm afraid are fixed only by time and gentle rehab. Good luck! @@eoinbairead3924
Great video, useful info, I have been fighting with this recurring nightmare since 10 years. Rest is not enough. Exercise is not enough. Massage is not enough. Try to meet a serous professional, on your own it will never heal. thumbs up!
I've been dealing with tennis elbow pain for about 4 months -- it's actually from playing tennis. I stopped playing once the pain became unbearable, and I've tried various PT methods at home (I had a phone consult with a PT). I will see some improvement, but then I'll back slide, and right now I'm in a period of increased pain. It's on the top of the forearm running back to the elbow, but it's also in the crook of my arm (the PT suggested that I have biceps tendinitis), and also on the outside of the elbow, close to the funny bone. Flexing and then straightening the elbow causes pain, as does lifting any weight at all with the palm facing down (such as taking a cutting board out of the drying rack). I'm really feeling hopeless these days, it's a frustrating injury to say the least.
Hey man, I am feeling for you. In a similar situation, 2 month and on. My tennis elbow came from a combination from tennis + gardening work. I play ~10h per week of 4.0 level matches / drills; i have decent relaxed technique using my body and never had tennis elbow before, but first time in my life i did some gardening work for couple weeks and it was too much. My learnings from TE: 1/ read "talk tennis" forum if you haven't yet, search te or tennis elbow there, many experiences and advices 2/ I had to accept to stop playing with my right hand. I don't stop using my right hand in daily life even if it causes pain (like you said, even simple flexing and strengthening was pain some days). I don't do any strengthening exercises like flex bar until the pain reduces to zero in daily life, I plan to start flexbar very slowly and gradually after. I don't do intense stretching as it worsens the pain. I do some light pressuring massage in the evenings, like pressing a point in my arm and keeping pressure for 20secs, I do it far away from elbow, and it seems to be helping a little. Braces or ice didn't do much help. 3/ It took 2 weeks after I stopped playing with right hand to start seeing less pain in daily life. 4/ I started to learn to play tennis with the left hand to keep the sport going. Its not easy, but very interesting experience 5/ Overall this experience also led me to learn much more then I knew before about tennis form and technique and exposed some things which i was doing wrong, like my wrist was often bent in forehand finish or backhand lag or serve and even shadow swinging without the ball was causing pain. Wrist should be neutral at most times in all shots. Backhand type shots and serves are the worst for elbow, forehand is OK, so study you backhand shots form how you hit them, to not repeat in future. I have also increased the size of my grip, I had it too small as i liked the feeling, but it is not good for elbow. I have also reduced tension from 23kg to 16kg:) Lastly, I changed to multifilaments.
I started weight lifting and got it after 2-3 months. Constant gripping, lots of flexing repetitions, i overdid it. Now im taking a break and hired a personal trainer. Wanna do it right the 2nd time.
In the early part of your video, you spelled tendonitis incorrectly...just thought you would want to know. On a better note, I like your videos. Very helpful and detailed. Thank you so much!
I've been suffering from both TE and GE on my right arm for about 2months now. Tried icing and heating and taking many aspirins nothing worked. Started going Physio and did ultrasound and massage and stretching .I personally feel ultrasound didnt reduce the pain but my physio will massage the hell out of my tendon area which can tear me up for about 30mins.That deep massage I feel helps alot with pain relief. You can try at your own risk.
Enthesitis due to Ankylosing Spondylitis opened the door to a tennis elbow type of pain that never ever ever goes away. 7 years since it first started, I am still dealing with it. Flexbar loading seemed to take me on the right path, but even after graduating to the Blue, the most demanding, it came right back -- even though I tried to acclimate to every new demand I placed on it. For a super minor case, many things will work. For something perhaps more rare; there are unknown components evidently at work. Sigh
In the exact same boat as you.. wow, didn't expect to find someone else dealing with such an outlier scenario. It's been 4 months for me, physical therapy helped a bit but the improvement has stalled now and I have decided to simply accept the pain and continue living with it.
@@HimanshuGupta-nt6kl it's def not an outlier scenario. This is a chronic inflammation problem that requires constant management...I'm in the same situation and have been for 20 yrs so I've had to learn how to deal with it. Compression sleeves from Amazon really work by taking the load off the elbow...give them a try.
Thank you so much. Sleeping, or rather the position I have my left arm in sleep, is most probably the culprit in my case. And it burst into this hug pain while gathering up fallen leaves in my yard. Doctor prescribed some ointment and a brace, acute care done!! But, I instinctively knew that could not be the solution and found this post. Now, I am not going with the elbow support but shall use the ointment and do the exercises and correct my sleeping position. Stay blessed.
@@timbowen5773 Past - on my side, curled up with one arm under the body and the other arm falling down in the front. Shoulders rounded and sort of crouched together.
Mmmm, mostly recovered and the PT tips here weren't the answer. As far as I can tell it was irritated by overwork of the muscles on the back of the arm pulling the elbow joint around slightly which irritated the tendon. It comes on fast because the constant irritation caused by the tendon pull isn't an issue until you do something that really upsets it, and then once upset the tendon pull irritation is enough to keep it upset and sore so you feel like it never recovers. I know that was true because a simple self adjustment exercise (the one with the band on the elbow joint, pull arm in with other arm and squeeze a bit) brought instant relief, and it was mostly fixed by working the other set of muscles (in particular the ones engaged when you grip with your little and ring finger). In addition would recommend the arm tube style brace for sport and the strap style brace that puts pressure on the back for keyboard work. Also a ibuprofen before sport makes a big difference to how much irritation you are left with the next day. A massage gun is also great for relaxing the muscles. If you are working at fixing the muscle imbalance causing the tendon to get pulled then most of the issue left is the body gets stuck in irritated mode so anything you can do to give it relief will aid recovery. Btw I don't think there was ever any real issue with my tendon's strength so all the strengthening of the back of the forearm which is what most PT love to do didn't help, infact it made it worse as it just pulled the elbow out of position more and that was the primary problem. So if you have had tennis elbow for 6 weeks and you've been following some advice and it's not getting better then chances are the advice you've been given is wrong.
Just turned 47 and an afternoon of skipping a jig has me in agony. I suppose skipping is a physical technique but it never affected me before. I guess this is the start of experiencing the "Getting old sucks" that I always hear the old timers saying. Maybe I need to start thinking about cane pole fishing for panfish? 😂
What a great video, so full of useful information and excellent advice. Intuitively, I have been treating my issue as you recommend, being careful not to overload or subject myself to continued repetitive movements, which is difficult, just as you say. I find that the most painful moments for me are when my arm is hanging, relaxed and I simply bend my arm. Keeping tension in my arm makes the pain disappear through the same movement. Unlike my knee injury, CBD ointment did nothing to ease the pain of this elbow injury, where it helped tremendously with my knee injury.
I can't do shoulerpresses at the gym suddenly because my rightside elbow is very weak, almost feels like it will collapse while the leftside is just chilling, I feel some pain when I do the exercise but not outside of it and can do every day to day thing too. Gonna try these tips and see if I can get it fixed. Using the pc a lot I think thats the cause.
That's how mine started had 2 years good now I change to dumbells putting wrists in more comfortable position after I do wrist curls then use hand grips strengthen and stretch fingers
This is so weird! I was searching for videos to help me with The fact that I'm stalling with my mental growth, And I came across this, but I really do have a messed up elbow, I had surgery on it years ago and for the first time in ages it's flared up to the point that I can barely use it again haha. Weird. Glad I found this.
It won’t help. I’ve had it for 3 years and spent thousands on PT, dry needling, cortisol injections, do all these exercises and stretches daily. It’s no better than it was before. You’re just going to have to live with it.
@@EyeForKnowledge. It doesn't bother me too much or stop me climbing, arm-wrestling, swimming etc. So if it doesn't get worse, then I'm ok with that - I guess...
@@LeahRobb I hope it stays that way. I’m a bodybuilder and have learned which exercises to avoid that cause it to flare up and avoid them. But even at that, some days are worse than others. Like last night at the gym, I didn’t do any of the exercises that make it worse but when I got home it felt like someone was stabbing me with a hot knife. Just something I have to live with because I can’t stop lifting. It’s really the only thing I enjoy doing.
@@EyeForKnowledge.i don't know if I have tennis elbow but have had similar pain for about a month, but it's more just soreness while lifting , not any other time . did your injury start out like that?
This is great. When you say not to overdo it with the micro loading of exercises, do you mean do them once a day do them twice a day? I understand the static positioning variation throughout the day, but the actual exercises I’m curious how much you would call overdoing it
thanks for watching! Overdoing it will vary by person so a good general rule of thumb is - if exercises produce more pain, stiffness and/or swelling that remains present into the next day, then it's too much. Time is the real healer - a lighter load over many days/weeks gets the job done while a stronger load may just irritate things. Good luck!
That's so frustrating. Mine originated from torn rotator cuffs in both shoulders, and moved into my elbows , wrists and hands. Hope they figure yours out soon
@@sixtoomanycats9769 that’s interesting. We were first thinking maybe from carpal tunnel but the only time I had any relief was when my neck hurt just as bad. It’s like it traveled to my neck. But over the last couple days as my neck feels better my elbow hurts more again. Uggggggggggv
I've had this condition on and off for about 20 years through cortisol shots, PT, ibuprofen and exoskeletal supports. If you use your arms for heavy work or exercise, like I do, I can assure you the condition will never fully go away but you can manage the discomfort through everything mentioned in this video. Unfortunately its pretty much of a life long affliction like many other types of chronic inflammation but use the info in this video to manage the issue and control the pain... everything mentioned here is helpful, and in my lengthy experience with this problem, definitely worthy of your time.
I can relate. It is cyclical for me. It get betters until it is not. For me, I know what my triggers are. For example, I know my tendons hate the hammer curl motion. This is what generally triggers it for me. I get confident thinking, if I start very light, I can strengthen the tendon and eradicate it for good. Nope! I fall right back into pain and weeks of recovery then I have to start from the beginning again.
@@albertc2390Yup. Bodybuilder here. Took 6 months off and lost a bunch of muscle trying to heal this. I have come to the conclusion I will just hammer away at it until it tears and then just get it surgically put back in place. Nothing helps. All the stretching, exercising, PT, dry needling,etc has done nothing. So fuck it. I’m just gonna keep doing my normal routine until I tear it. May be out of the game for a while but I can’t not work out. It’s the only thing in my life I enjoy doing.
damn. I've had mine for a month. I hope it heals and goes away. it doesn't hurt so bad but cannot do upright rows with a bar anymore, without pain. that's definitely how I hurt it.
@@AndrewEvenstar It won’t get better. Mine are so bad again, that I’ve decided to just hang it up. I can’t go to the gym anymore. Once you get this, it’ll just continue getting worse. It gets better once you stop but never heals. As soon as you go back, it comes back.
I have tennis elbow on my right elbow since last year. Had Mri done and found that I had a 3mm tear. Had 3 therapy sensions of 9 times each. 9 rounds of acupuncture and got a cortisone shot in August. I was off work for 6 months. After 2 weeks after the cortisone shot, I went back to work and was feeling great. I took it easy at work, but I started to feel my left elbow starting to get strained a month ago. And now my right both my elbows hurt. I can't sleep unless I wear my compression sleeves on both arms. It even hurts to lift my blanket at night. Just went with my specialist today, and he ordered a prp injection for my right elbow and a mri for the left side. I'm hoping this relives the pain.
I have a 50% tear in my left forearm extensor tendon and had a PRP injection March 27th...arm is weaker now and more painful but due to inactivity following the injection so fingers crossed
@Custer Ranch I wake up with little to no pain now. But if I lift something kinda heavy it feels like straining. I also have more range of motion now. May get an other shot in a few weeks.
Interesting that I came upon your video abt arm flexion for long periods. I just realized this week (after having tendonitis for a year now) that holding my phone makes my tendonitis worse. On the days where I am not on my phone much my arms feel so much better!!
I have recently developed this through using small pruning shears over the space of only an hour or so, just using strong grip force which was quite difficult as the plant I was pruning was a flax bush, I had to apply a fair amount of pressure really, I only noticed the pain develop hours later and it grew worse as time went by. It's been around 4 weeks now, I was given a brace, like the one you use in another video but without the inflatable pillow part, just a piece of plain velcro really! I will follow your advice in this video and try to work it but not overdo it I think. I have had this before years ago after doing a repetitive job, technically returning to work too soon to an unsuitable job, years earlier I had multiple shoulder dislocations - around 5 or 6, I lost count to be honest. I had one shoulder reconstruction that was opening the shoulder up method, that was ok and it didn't dislocate and I had no shoulder problems from then really, but I think this is when the tennis elbow occurred. I had RSI type symptoms (I thought so anyway) in both wrists from using a machine that required lots of downward pressure then application of 2 buttons with your thumbs whist holding down wooden framing for large mirrors. Basically, it nailed 90-degree angles till you rotated the piece and completed a square. The machine would also grip then apply nails to the underside of the work piece in an upward direction, I had to have another surgery on the shoulder, and this was done arthroscopically probably 20 yrs ago now. I'm 57 - I think the elbow will require more drastic work, maybe injections, I hope not but the Dr said if the brace and local topical volataren don't work in 4 weeks he'll inject it. It's been over 4 weeks now...I don't want to have steroid injections so at this stage I will stick to lighter use whilst rubbing the arm gently and often. It has not healed at all, and I would say it's become more painful actually. I can barely use my arm it's so painful, even trying to pick up a cup of coffee I find I need to assist that arm as the strength is minimal and it's very painful. I can't remember how the prior tennis elbow healed. I have a feeling it disappeared once I had the shoulder re-worked on via the arthroscope method. Maybe Dr will have notes on this, but my files were transferred to another practice, and much were just photocopying those days and no real keyboard entry to a computer was made so it's a matter of sifting through pages of junk. I'm a photographer so this may be making it worse as my camera is very heavy. I try to use my left arm as much as I can though. I will watch more of your videos - thanks for putting them up on here.
Man’s a genius. I recently had elbow arthroscopy surgery..just trying to figure out how to get my elbow back to normal. I had elbow spur that effected me for over a decade and in last year I had injured my wrist and developed De Quervain In my thumb wrist and been battling that then developed tennis elbow just before my surgery to fix my bone spur. I power-lift and I have done construction my whole life and I’m in the military. Thanks for the tips.
Thank you so much for this super Video. I am a Physio and I have this golfarm tendinosis now since seven months. 🙁 Does ultrasound treatment overdue the Problem too? Many greatings. 🙋♀️
I been having Tennis elbow for 3 years might get surgery because my arm is slightly bent and in pain when active. However your exercises are legit and helpful for the moment. Well said and thank you for your advice and sharing. Blessings 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Thank you very much, sir. May God bless you. Amateur climbing arborist here…got injured yanking on my climbing rope and man am I feeling blue that I cannot climb trees right now. Really looking forward to the possibility of healing through these wise methods. Thanks much
I’ve had elbow tendinitis on both sides of the elbow for over a year now. I’ve done PT, PRP, Stemcells, more PT, plenty of rest and nothing works. Any advice?
Thx for watching! Smith Rock in OR is my home crag and I've also climbed City of Rocks in ID but haven't made it to Indian Creek yet - would love to go!
Very helpful information. Of course, I have done everything wrong as I have been trying different videos and over doing this. I have had this for 1 1/2 years, and it was brought on by strength training. I like your approach and will look at your other videos.
I've had TE for over 30 years ... seemed to be work-related back in the 90s ... I spent 50 years in that industry ... seemed to go away after I retired ... but it's back with a vengeance. I've had PT on my forearms (and elbow) [Back in the early 90s] ... deep tissue massage, and that both hurt and felt good, but my forearms are still very tight, and they do not respond well to good stretching techniques. I can't help but think that something has been overlooked along the road to diagnosis and treatment. I think that if the diagnosis is correct, the root cause identified, and the intervention is good, there should be a resolution. Not yet.
Thanks for the quite informative video. I have tennis an elbow problem in my right elbow for 3 months. Done ultrasound found 4mm tear in tendon. The doctor suggested taking a cortisone injection, but I don't want to take it. Now im having a problem with my left hand. I work in the production department and it is repitativ work. At the moment, im taking care of the elbow by wearing braces and doing light work.Please guide me on how long it will take to heal tendon tear? Do they heal over a period of time or tear won't heal? Do I need to go for an injection? Thanks.
Mark Rippetoe recommends doing slow chin-ups for two to three reps and a total of 20 sets. Do this for about five sessions. It will hurt a lot but eventually fixes it.
Got a tennis elbow to the point I could still play, but when I would push the lower arm and the joint, it would hurt. Also slight stiffness would appear the day after. I quit playing for almost two weeks, started fasting for 4 days in a row per week and took magnesium and collagen next to healthy food like fish, kiwi, hemp seeds, goji berries, inca berries, … after less than a week I started playing again and it is much better. No more pain, no more stiffness. I wouldn’t say i got rid of it completely but I’m playing a bit less now (not every day multiple times anymore). I also think that if you stop using that arm, your tendons are not getting stronger and the problem will come back as soon as you restart your activity…
Look, I'm desperate at this point. This was a tease to me. I already have modified everything, including elbow placement while I sleep. I thought you were going to give some simple exercises to strengthen while allowing the tendon to heal: typical PT stuff. Instead I get to see someone doing an exercise which is not used, and people doing climbing. The latter is just torture to us, who can't even do our daily things that we need to without pain. Disappointing.
I stopped working for 2 weeks now as it was probably caused by typing - dual tennis elbow and carpal tunnel in left hand.. My wrists ache and shoulders, as well as elbows/arms... I can't type longer than 15 minutes without starting to have pain :(.. I also have hypermobility... which probably doesn't help. Any tips in addition?
Do you have tips for people that have injured wrists from recovered carpal tunnel syndrome? I can't arch my wrists 90 degrees like all these ridiculous elbow exercise videos say. I'd rather live with elbow pain indefinitely, to avoid a carpal tunnel flareup. Carpal tunnel injuries are several times worse than elbow pain. Can I just skip the bent wrist stuff?
I got my tennis elbow from raking rocks and it's been over 3 months and it still hasn't gone away! I do a lot of video editing, so my arm is in a bent, fixed position where the only movement is my fingers clicking the mouse for several hours a day. Could this be the reason it hasn't healed yet? Any tips, since I can't really avoid having to do it?
I think irritation from computer work is usual carpel tunnel (probably spelled that wrong) same thing basically but different tendon. Of course you could have both irritated.
It could be, it was one of the things for me. Nowadays I can’t work with a normal mouse, I got the ergonomic one... not sure what it’s called, kinda looks like a fat fin. And helped a lot coupled with a couple of excersises I found online and it’s getting better altough extremely slowly it’s still a progress. And it’s incredible to finally have hope of maybe fixing it sometimes in the future. Good luck! I hope yours improves too!
I have developed tendinitis in my right elbow primarily. I have felt slight symptoms in my left elbow but not often. My right elbow now hurts most of the time especially after work. I’m a driver and drive up to 11 hours a day up to 70 hrs a week. I believe the issue is with over gripping. I’ve started to try relaxing my grip, not over lapping my fingers as much and trying to keep pressure and control on the steering wheel with my palm but there are times when I do have to have more control and I’m forced to grip tightly. I try to vary my hand position on the wheel when I can but the safest hand positions are the cause of the problem. I stay in these hand positions most often. I’ll start incorporating these tips and trying the wrist support instead of the elbow strap as much. If you have more in depth advice for professional drivers please send it.
I’m almost at a year from my and started from vball but I can’t quit playing Trying to do some of this rehab stuff and cut back a day of volleyball. Hope that’s enough 😩😩
Hey! I’ve been dealing with a tendinitis over almost a year now and it doesn’t seem to be healing as I expected and it’s jeopardizing my climbing and music playin. I’m a professional musician and passionate climber. Is personal consultation something you offer via Skype or similar? Please let me know because this video really gave me hope.
both can be challenging but on opposite sides of the elbow - the golf swing is the inside of the elbow, the mouse is the outside, and both have unique challenges - golf swing is a problem of too much force when tissues are not strong/adapted, and mouse is a problem of too much repetition with reduced conditioning - a solution for both requires increasing capacity via exercises and changing postures while working frequently (every 30 minutes or so doing elbow/shoulder/wrist exercises and stretches). good luck!
@@focusrehab Thank you for the information, i definately have the issue on the outside of my elbow. I use the mouse 6-7 hours a day and I swing the golf club about 100x daily..trying to figure this out. Its been lingering 8-9 weeks now and hurts!
I've had mine for a year and it has only gotten worse. Thinking I might need to get an FMLA form for this and take a month off at least, I can't work with this pain.
Hi there I’m 13 and I think I got my problem from the gym I saw a physician and they said I had tricep tendonitis I did all the things they said to do and it didn’t help after that I got a job a month later I only had 2 shifts a week but it hurt when I was working but I just went through the pain at school and work and it turned into a worse problem know I have pain and aching in my elbow wrist and forearm and the only time I can wrest it is in the holidays I’ve had it for over a year any tips I can do for when I’m at work and school
Thank you for this video Doc said I've damaged tendons in my elbow and still sore after 10wk...got physio booked a day this has given me plenty food for thought....do you recommend getting a tens machine to treat this?
I am thanking you for this video. You have explained things in a specific way and I believe it will help to rid of my elbow pain.. Driving a car causes the elbow pain / tennis elbow?. Please advice, I can manage to reduce my driving activity in accordance.
I wish you guys would just get to the point.
Exactly
All these videos they just can't stop talking.
Show us all the techniques in the first 2 minutes and then you can blab on and we can skip your video
Probably the BEST tennis elbow video on all RUclips. Such a balanced and pragmatic approach. Thanks doc.
agreed. really pratical stuff.
Except there is not actually anything in this video to do to help the issue. Don't overwork/Don't underwork is basically what he says. What does the video actually have you do to fix the issue?
What an excellent resource. And he was right, he tells us things you don't hear when you are searching for information out there (even from other PTs). My bent elbow sleeping position never occurred to me! No wonder.
Hey mate, first off I'd like to begin by saying in my own personal experience the information you have given in this video is very helpful. secondly I'd like to thank you for making and posting this video as without a friend of mine in the same field as your own, I would not have solved this issue on my own so it will be extremely helpful to others.
Future viewers, if you fit the descriptions he speaks of, listen to the knowledge this man is offering.
I’m ff
This Drummer of 32 years is very relived to have come across this video and channel, thank you!
Excellent info, I’ve 80% recovered from this nasty condition. PRP injections helped my healing journey, 3 years I’ve been recovering, after injections in both elbows 2 times it took me 6 months to gain strength and function without pain. My strength isn’t what it used to be, such is life now. Best wishes to all who read this, good luck with your recovery. 30 years of hard yakka
I had Prp injections after 1.5 yrs of pain. Doc said I had smutz for tendons... Basically nothing much left. All dark gray on the ultrasound where a healthy tendon would show white. Both elbows. Injections in May last year, then again in September. First time it was two weeks till I could drive. Two months before I had decent mobility again. After second set I was driving in two days, mobility in a week. By November I felt better than before the may injections. December ultrasound showed almost completely healthy tendons but I still had pain. Physical therapy for 6 months... A little more progress. Another 6 months and here I am still with some minor pain (almost constant). Thankfully this year I've been able to do my job at half throttle ( concrete finishing). I can drink coffee pain free and open door knobs pain free. So fairly happy. But would love to get rid of the residual pain and gain the other 50% strength back. I've been trying flossing of the arms. That gives short term relief and maybe some longer term healing. Just last two weeks I'm trying muscle scraping on one elbow. Seems to help a tiny bit. Will continue that for a couple more weeks. Frustrating that this started in October 2019 and I'm still in semi rough shape. I'm 42 so I understand that I heal super l slower than I used too... I'll keep searching and trying
@@miltonemsheimer9049 I feel your pain man, literally. you've described my story somewhat - minor differences being, the ultrasound shows BLACK rather than dark grey! and here's the thing, I think it's because I stopped training (ex-boxer for 2+ decades) and took a very lazy / sitting typing / driving life-style. (I'm guessing!)
@@Cryptokat FFS Tyler Twists is THE answer. No need for expensive treatment.
@@miltonemsheimer9049 really try Tyler Twists. I've had this condition for years on and off . Each time now I get the theraband flex bar....I use green...and it's gone within a day or two (needed a couple of weeks first time).
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sleep position,
keeping your arms straight when you can,
and bending your elbow more often were the biggest things I learned
I have complained to my PT that my elbow hurts every morning because I can not find a good position to place my elbow to sleep. Could you please demonstrate what position is best for sleeping to relieve the overnight pain? Especially for sleeping on your side. Thank you for a great video.
Our bodies are designed to sleep on our back. Side sleeping is bad for you
My elbow pains even if I touch it a little I can't even lift my 3yr old kid and throwing or making a first hurts dearly been 2years now.even thought I had avn since I did a hip replacement or is it possible
Been 3 months now...def helps kneading and rubbing it. I also ice it not for anti inflammatory but it nimbs the pain well.
Dear Physiotherapist, i have both tennis elbow and golfer elbow pains since 4 months due to gym exercises i started in 46 years. In 2 months i developed thid. I also feel tendin tension in biceps now. Plz upload a video for this condition where all the arms tendons do pain. Thanks
PLEASE READ : I had tennis elbow for nearly 2 years and I found the cure that worked for me, revealed now: Before this, I tried all the normal stretching of the forearm and wrist and the other combos usually prescribed, dozens of snake oils, ointments anti-inflammatories, tried lots of different physios , ice, heat lamp, RICE, even massaging and stretching the opposite elbow in a homeopathic kind of way, blade massaging, hard ball , soft ball massage - no luck. No difference. Tried modifying the diet, didn't seem to help. The cure only came after searching and trying hundreds of youtube vidoes whereupon I eventually found the two gold nuggets required, so credit where credit's due. One: If you search for the AthleanX channel and tennis elbow, you will find the channel presenter Jeff suggesting that in his experience, elbow problems of this nature stem from the *shoulders,* not the elbow itself - the rationale being that the shoulders form part of a dynamic chain of arm movement: Stiff, inflexible shoulders and / or bad posture means the elbow tendons are always overworking and the long-term fix was to sort your shoulders / posture out. Interesting, I thought. The vid is here: ruclips.net/video/qTjDq3_D-FU/видео.html Two: I then searched further and after trying dozens of different posture / shoulder stretch exercises I found the magic one required : the W stretch. Sometimes combined in a combination called the YTWL stretch. There are more and more vids appearing on this now, but here's a good one: ruclips.net/video/6C-wfV27bzI/видео.html - the guy in this goes through a bunch of great exercises, and I'm sure they are all good but personally it was the 'W' stretch he demonstrates that worked for me. I never force my shoulders back doing this - I hold the W with the tiniest of force.. I found it is MUCH better to stretch gently for a longer period of time ( like a minute ) that to press hard for a short time. I couldn't believe it but the TE had virtually disappeared after 2 weeks of just doing this quick routine twice a day. If all else has failed, like the title of this suggests, it may be worth giving a go. Also as I said before, don't waste your money - I never found ANY topical ointment that made the slightest difference to the condition. The suggestions in the Focus Physical Therapy vid all sound like good advice to me, definitely worth taking this advice as well, no point aggravating the elbow further. Remember however the W exercise can be done seated or standing and only takes a few minutes a day. I would be interested in hearing this channel presenter's comments on this idea of the shoulders being the root cause. In my view it could well be that the elbow is suffering a long-term overuse injury, but the inflexibility of the shoulders is preventing healing from taking place. Whatever, I am not a physio, just a guy who had this condition real bad for two years and tried everything (except shockwave therapy and surgery) and I'm just passing on the cure that worked for me. I do this W stretch a couple of times day now every day to maintain health, and I suggest that would be a good idea even after your TE is better, to help prevent it happening again. Good luck.
Hi @nickpounder1757. Thanks for your post. I've had golfer's elbow as opposed to tennis elbow. Do you think the W stretch could help golfers elbow pain? I've had the pain over a year now.
Hiya. Well, I had that too, I got it from doing pull-ups using two parallel bars as opposed to a single bar. Turns out this is excellent for the lats, but truly awful for putting strain on the elbow! In this case, the solution was to stop doing that sort of pull-up, and as a rehab I've found two things are very good: The 'waiters' stretch whereby you hold your arm back straight and twist your hand outwards and hold for a period, say a minute, that was helpful. I can't remember the vid but if you do a youtube search on 'golfers elbow waiters exercise' you should pick it up. Secondly, there is a kind of stretch that seems to popular with arm wrestlers. There's different ways of doing this but say I am seated, I place my arms straight so the hands are against the inside of the knees , with the palm side up - this is important, and making a fist. I then push GENTLY in with the knees and resist the push with the hands. Much better I think to do this really gently but hold for a much longer period of time. This one really helps. Lastly, a technique that seems to be gaining popularity is 'voodoo flossing' you might want to google that, but basically this involves getting a strip of physio band and wrapping it semi tight around the tendons where the issue is and performing gentle slow, very low-weight exercises. I've only just started trying this for some other injury, so can't report back but it's out there if you want. My last bit of advice is - don't bother with steroid injections for this kind of injury. I have a hip tendinosis and in desperation I went for a jab recently, but overall I'd say it's just made it worse. I think these things I'm afraid are fixed only by time and gentle rehab. Good luck! @@eoinbairead3924
Great video, useful info, I have been fighting with this recurring nightmare since 10 years.
Rest is not enough. Exercise is not enough. Massage is not enough. Try to meet a serous professional, on your own it will never heal. thumbs up!
As a retired PT with current lateral epicondylitis, I found this video to be the best one I've seen so far.
Then you should know better
I've been dealing with tennis elbow pain for about 4 months -- it's actually from playing tennis. I stopped playing once the pain became unbearable, and I've tried various PT methods at home (I had a phone consult with a PT). I will see some improvement, but then I'll back slide, and right now I'm in a period of increased pain. It's on the top of the forearm running back to the elbow, but it's also in the crook of my arm (the PT suggested that I have biceps tendinitis), and also on the outside of the elbow, close to the funny bone. Flexing and then straightening the elbow causes pain, as does lifting any weight at all with the palm facing down (such as taking a cutting board out of the drying rack). I'm really feeling hopeless these days, it's a frustrating injury to say the least.
Hey man, I am feeling for you. In a similar situation, 2 month and on. My tennis elbow came from a combination from tennis + gardening work. I play ~10h per week of 4.0 level matches / drills; i have decent relaxed technique using my body and never had tennis elbow before, but first time in my life i did some gardening work for couple weeks and it was too much. My learnings from TE: 1/ read "talk tennis" forum if you haven't yet, search te or tennis elbow there, many experiences and advices 2/ I had to accept to stop playing with my right hand. I don't stop using my right hand in daily life even if it causes pain (like you said, even simple flexing and strengthening was pain some days). I don't do any strengthening exercises like flex bar until the pain reduces to zero in daily life, I plan to start flexbar very slowly and gradually after. I don't do intense stretching as it worsens the pain. I do some light pressuring massage in the evenings, like pressing a point in my arm and keeping pressure for 20secs, I do it far away from elbow, and it seems to be helping a little. Braces or ice didn't do much help. 3/ It took 2 weeks after I stopped playing with right hand to start seeing less pain in daily life. 4/ I started to learn to play tennis with the left hand to keep the sport going. Its not easy, but very interesting experience 5/ Overall this experience also led me to learn much more then I knew before about tennis form and technique and exposed some things which i was doing wrong, like my wrist was often bent in forehand finish or backhand lag or serve and even shadow swinging without the ball was causing pain. Wrist should be neutral at most times in all shots. Backhand type shots and serves are the worst for elbow, forehand is OK, so study you backhand shots form how you hit them, to not repeat in future. I have also increased the size of my grip, I had it too small as i liked the feeling, but it is not good for elbow. I have also reduced tension from 23kg to 16kg:) Lastly, I changed to multifilaments.
I started weight lifting and got it after 2-3 months. Constant gripping, lots of flexing repetitions, i overdid it. Now im taking a break and hired a personal trainer. Wanna do it right the 2nd time.
Thanks for helpful concepts. However, the incongruence between discussion and (inconsistent) images is puzzling.
In the early part of your video, you spelled tendonitis incorrectly...just thought you would want to know.
On a better note, I like your videos. Very helpful and detailed.
Thank you so much!
I've been suffering from both TE and GE on my right arm for about 2months now. Tried icing and heating and taking many aspirins nothing worked. Started going Physio and did ultrasound and massage and stretching .I personally feel ultrasound didnt reduce the pain but my physio will massage the hell out of my tendon area which can tear me up for about 30mins.That deep massage I feel helps alot with pain relief. You can try at your own risk.
9:18 hey, this addresses my symptoms exactly. It is more painful after waking up, or placing my hand still too long.
Enthesitis due to Ankylosing Spondylitis opened the door to a tennis elbow type of pain that never ever ever goes away. 7 years since it first started, I am still dealing with it. Flexbar loading seemed to take me on the right path, but even after graduating to the Blue, the most demanding, it came right back -- even though I tried to acclimate to every new demand I placed on it. For a super minor case, many things will work. For something perhaps more rare; there are unknown components evidently at work. Sigh
In the exact same boat as you.. wow, didn't expect to find someone else dealing with such an outlier scenario. It's been 4 months for me, physical therapy helped a bit but the improvement has stalled now and I have decided to simply accept the pain and continue living with it.
@@HimanshuGupta-nt6kl it's def not an outlier scenario. This is a chronic inflammation problem that requires constant management...I'm in the same situation and have been for 20 yrs so I've had to learn how to deal with it. Compression sleeves from Amazon really work by taking the load off the elbow...give them a try.
Thank you so much. Sleeping, or rather the position I have my left arm in sleep, is most probably the culprit in my case. And it burst into this hug pain while gathering up fallen leaves in my yard. Doctor prescribed some ointment and a brace, acute care done!! But, I instinctively knew that could not be the solution and found this post. Now, I am not going with the elbow support but shall use the ointment and do the exercises and correct my sleeping position. Stay blessed.
@@timbowen5773 Past - on my side, curled up with one arm under the body and the other arm falling down in the front. Shoulders rounded and sort of crouched together.
Mmmm, mostly recovered and the PT tips here weren't the answer. As far as I can tell it was irritated by overwork of the muscles on the back of the arm pulling the elbow joint around slightly which irritated the tendon. It comes on fast because the constant irritation caused by the tendon pull isn't an issue until you do something that really upsets it, and then once upset the tendon pull irritation is enough to keep it upset and sore so you feel like it never recovers.
I know that was true because a simple self adjustment exercise (the one with the band on the elbow joint, pull arm in with other arm and squeeze a bit) brought instant relief, and it was mostly fixed by working the other set of muscles (in particular the ones engaged when you grip with your little and ring finger).
In addition would recommend the arm tube style brace for sport and the strap style brace that puts pressure on the back for keyboard work. Also a ibuprofen before sport makes a big difference to how much irritation you are left with the next day. A massage gun is also great for relaxing the muscles. If you are working at fixing the muscle imbalance causing the tendon to get pulled then most of the issue left is the body gets stuck in irritated mode so anything you can do to give it relief will aid recovery.
Btw I don't think there was ever any real issue with my tendon's strength so all the strengthening of the back of the forearm which is what most PT love to do didn't help, infact it made it worse as it just pulled the elbow out of position more and that was the primary problem. So if you have had tennis elbow for 6 weeks and you've been following some advice and it's not getting better then chances are the advice you've been given is wrong.
I’ve had this condition off and on for months. Thank you for these ideas. ❤
This is the best video I have found that explains everything in detail! Thank you.
Just turned 47 and an afternoon of skipping a jig has me in agony. I suppose skipping is a physical technique but it never affected me before. I guess this is the start of experiencing the "Getting old sucks" that I always hear the old timers saying. Maybe I need to start thinking about cane pole fishing for panfish? 😂
Thank you for this video and it’s been very helpful
"More than 6 weeks" ... that's funny ... I've had mine for years 🙂
Best video I came across on the matter, helped me cure my elbow. Thanks for sharing.
First time I hear someone say it could be exasperated during sleep. I think mine is caused by my sleeping position.
Hi I live in the UK. I have this problem. Do you offer online treatment plans?
What about weightlifting ? Do i need to stop lifting weights? I also have pain in both brachioradialis(both arms) ..
I feel bad 😢 because I love 💕 working I can’t do it anymore 😂
I’m having that problem in both elbows from driving a semi truck!!!!!
I injured mine doing butchery and slaughter for years.
What a great video, so full of useful information and excellent advice. Intuitively, I have been treating my issue as you recommend, being careful not to overload or subject myself to continued repetitive movements, which is difficult, just as you say. I find that the most painful moments for me are when my arm is hanging, relaxed and I simply bend my arm. Keeping tension in my arm makes the pain disappear through the same movement. Unlike my knee injury, CBD ointment did nothing to ease the pain of this elbow injury, where it helped tremendously with my knee injury.
My both elbow stiff next day after workout IN GYM can you please help me how to fixt this.I cant open my full hand its stuck from elbow.
What about heat or cold treatment?
I can't do shoulerpresses at the gym suddenly because my rightside elbow is very weak, almost feels like it will collapse while the leftside is just chilling, I feel some pain when I do the exercise but not outside of it and can do every day to day thing too. Gonna try these tips and see if I can get it fixed. Using the pc a lot I think thats the cause.
How’s your elbow Sir, I have also same problem 😢
Honestly, not that helpful. Mine is specific, from lifting weights like a barbell curl.
That's how mine started had 2 years good now I change to dumbells putting wrists in more comfortable position after I do wrist curls then use hand grips strengthen and stretch fingers
Very helpful video. Thank you for posting!
> more than 6 weeks
lol. I have golfer's elbow for about 5 years
What’s your advice on going to an Atlanta Braves game?
This is very great info presented in a super understandable way. Thanks!
This is so weird! I was searching for videos to help me with The fact that I'm stalling with my mental growth, And I came across this, but I really do have a messed up elbow, I had surgery on it years ago and for the first time in ages it's flared up to the point that I can barely use it again haha. Weird. Glad I found this.
great vid. any thoughts on rehab protocol after PRP injection to treat chronic golfers elbow ?
I've had elbow pain for nearly 2 years. I look forward to trying these exercises.
It won’t help. I’ve had it for 3 years and spent thousands on PT, dry needling, cortisol injections, do all these exercises and stretches daily. It’s no better than it was before. You’re just going to have to live with it.
@@EyeForKnowledge. It doesn't bother me too much or stop me climbing, arm-wrestling, swimming etc. So if it doesn't get worse, then I'm ok with that - I guess...
@@LeahRobb I hope it stays that way. I’m a bodybuilder and have learned which exercises to avoid that cause it to flare up and avoid them. But even at that, some days are worse than others. Like last night at the gym, I didn’t do any of the exercises that make it worse but when I got home it felt like someone was stabbing me with a hot knife. Just something I have to live with because I can’t stop lifting. It’s really the only thing I enjoy doing.
@@EyeForKnowledge.i don't know if I have tennis elbow but have had similar pain for about a month, but it's more just soreness while lifting , not any other time . did your injury start out like that?
@@AndrewEvenstar Yeah. Started out just feeling like tender. A dull ache. Then it progressively got worse. My days in the gym are over.
This is great. When you say not to overdo it with the micro loading of exercises, do you mean do them once a day do them twice a day? I understand the static positioning variation throughout the day, but the actual exercises I’m curious how much you would call overdoing it
thanks for watching! Overdoing it will vary by person so a good general rule of thumb is - if exercises produce more pain, stiffness and/or swelling that remains present into the next day, then it's too much. Time is the real healer - a lighter load over many days/weeks gets the job done while a stronger load may just irritate things. Good luck!
great explanation thanks
I’ve had “tennis elbow” for 9 months now. 2 rounds of steroids and I’m in week 11 PT. We can’t figure out where it’s coming from 😭😭😭😭
That's so frustrating. Mine originated from torn rotator cuffs in both shoulders, and moved into my elbows , wrists and hands.
Hope they figure yours out soon
@@sixtoomanycats9769 that’s interesting. We were first thinking maybe from carpal tunnel but the only time I had any relief was when my neck hurt just as bad. It’s like it traveled to my neck. But over the last couple days as my neck feels better my elbow hurts more again. Uggggggggggv
I've had this condition on and off for about 20 years through cortisol shots, PT, ibuprofen and exoskeletal supports. If you use your arms for heavy work or exercise, like I do, I can assure you the condition will never fully go away but you can manage the discomfort through everything mentioned in this video. Unfortunately its pretty much of a life long affliction like many other types of chronic inflammation but use the info in this video to manage the issue and control the pain... everything mentioned here is helpful, and in my lengthy experience with this problem, definitely worthy of your time.
I can relate. It is cyclical for me. It get betters until it is not. For me, I know what my triggers are. For example, I know my tendons hate the hammer curl motion. This is what generally triggers it for me. I get confident thinking, if I start very light, I can strengthen the tendon and eradicate it for good. Nope! I fall right back into pain and weeks of recovery then I have to start from the beginning again.
@@albertc2390Yup. Bodybuilder here. Took 6 months off and lost a bunch of muscle trying to heal this. I have come to the conclusion I will just hammer away at it until it tears and then just get it surgically put back in place. Nothing helps. All the stretching, exercising, PT, dry needling,etc has done nothing. So fuck it. I’m just gonna keep doing my normal routine until I tear it. May be out of the game for a while but I can’t not work out. It’s the only thing in my life I enjoy doing.
damn. I've had mine for a month. I hope it heals and goes away. it doesn't hurt so bad but cannot do upright rows with a bar anymore, without pain. that's definitely how I hurt it.
@@AndrewEvenstar It won’t get better. Mine are so bad again, that I’ve decided to just hang it up. I can’t go to the gym anymore. Once you get this, it’ll just continue getting worse. It gets better once you stop but never heals. As soon as you go back, it comes back.
@@EyeForKnowledge. damn. that's not good. I work out every day . shit
I have tennis elbow on my right elbow since last year. Had Mri done and found that I had a 3mm tear. Had 3 therapy sensions of 9 times each. 9 rounds of acupuncture and got a cortisone shot in August. I was off work for 6 months. After 2 weeks after the cortisone shot, I went back to work and was feeling great. I took it easy at work, but I started to feel my left elbow starting to get strained a month ago. And now my right both my elbows hurt. I can't sleep unless I wear my compression sleeves on both arms. It even hurts to lift my blanket at night.
Just went with my specialist today, and he ordered a prp injection for my right elbow and a mri for the left side. I'm hoping this relives the pain.
I have a 50% tear in my left forearm extensor tendon and had a PRP injection March 27th...arm is weaker now and more painful but due to inactivity following the injection so fingers crossed
How is it now?
@Custer Ranch I wake up with little to no pain now. But if I lift something kinda heavy it feels like straining. I also have more range of motion now. May get an other shot in a few weeks.
Man so many good things mentioned ..I’ve a tennis elbow ongoing for almost 2 years. So tired and exhausted. Nothing seems to be helping
Same
Any improvement?
Thank you for this video, cant believe its free
Interesting that I came upon your video abt arm flexion for long periods. I just realized this week (after having tendonitis for a year now) that holding my phone makes my tendonitis worse. On the days where I am not on my phone much my arms feel so much better!!
yes!! it's a sneaky source of ongoing problems. headset time maybe? best of luck!
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I have recently developed this through using small pruning shears over the space of only an hour or so, just using strong grip force which was quite difficult as the plant I was pruning was a flax bush, I had to apply a fair amount of pressure really, I only noticed the pain develop hours later and it grew worse as time went by. It's been around 4 weeks now, I was given a brace, like the one you use in another video but without the inflatable pillow part, just a piece of plain velcro really!
I will follow your advice in this video and try to work it but not overdo it I think. I have had this before years ago after doing a repetitive job, technically returning to work too soon to an unsuitable job, years earlier I had multiple shoulder dislocations - around 5 or 6, I lost count to be honest. I had one shoulder reconstruction that was opening the shoulder up method, that was ok and it didn't dislocate and I had no shoulder problems from then really, but I think this is when the tennis elbow occurred. I had RSI type symptoms (I thought so anyway) in both wrists from using a machine that required lots of downward pressure then application of 2 buttons with your thumbs whist holding down wooden framing for large mirrors. Basically, it nailed 90-degree angles till you rotated the piece and completed a square. The machine would also grip then apply nails to the underside of the work piece in an upward direction, I had to have another surgery on the shoulder, and this was done arthroscopically probably 20 yrs ago now. I'm 57 - I think the elbow will require more drastic work, maybe injections, I hope not but the Dr said if the brace and local topical volataren don't work in 4 weeks he'll inject it. It's been over 4 weeks now...I don't want to have steroid injections so at this stage I will stick to lighter use whilst rubbing the arm gently and often. It has not healed at all, and I would say it's become more painful actually.
I can barely use my arm it's so painful, even trying to pick up a cup of coffee I find I need to assist that arm as the strength is minimal and it's very painful. I can't remember how the prior tennis elbow healed. I have a feeling it disappeared once I had the shoulder re-worked on via the arthroscope method. Maybe Dr will have notes on this, but my files were transferred to another practice, and much were just photocopying those days and no real keyboard entry to a computer was made so it's a matter of sifting through pages of junk. I'm a photographer so this may be making it worse as my camera is very heavy. I try to use my left arm as much as I can though. I will watch more of your videos - thanks for putting them up on here.
Man’s a genius. I recently had elbow arthroscopy surgery..just trying to figure out how to get my elbow back to normal. I had elbow spur that effected me for over a decade and in last year I had injured my wrist and developed De Quervain In my thumb wrist and been battling that then developed tennis elbow just before my surgery to fix my bone spur. I power-lift and I have done construction my whole life and I’m in the military. Thanks for the tips.
Thank you so much for this super Video. I am a Physio and I have this golfarm tendinosis now since seven months. 🙁 Does ultrasound treatment overdue the Problem too? Many greatings. 🙋♀️
I been having Tennis elbow for 3 years might get surgery because my arm is slightly bent and in pain when active. However your exercises are legit and helpful for the moment. Well said and thank you for your advice and sharing. Blessings 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Thank you very much, sir. May God bless you.
Amateur climbing arborist here…got injured yanking on my climbing rope and man am I feeling blue that I cannot climb trees right now.
Really looking forward to the possibility of healing through these wise methods.
Thanks much
thanks for watching and good luck with your recovery!
how's it going mate?
Nice! Every single point resonated with me. Thank you!
I’ve had elbow tendinitis on both sides of the elbow for over a year now. I’ve done PT, PRP, Stemcells, more PT, plenty of rest and nothing works. Any advice?
Thanks for your help, great video! Do you climb Indian Creek?
Thx for watching! Smith Rock in OR is my home crag and I've also climbed City of Rocks in ID but haven't made it to Indian Creek yet - would love to go!
Massage makes my pain worse. Actually anything other than babying it does. Cant play guitar. Or piano. Or anything . Cant shoot a gun.
Very helpful information. Of course, I have done everything wrong as I have been trying different videos and over doing this. I have had this for 1 1/2 years, and it was brought on by strength training. I like your approach and will look at your other videos.
I've had TE for over 30 years ... seemed to be work-related back in the 90s ... I spent 50 years in that industry ... seemed to go away after I retired ... but it's back with a vengeance. I've had PT on my forearms (and elbow) [Back in the early 90s] ... deep tissue massage, and that both hurt and felt good, but my forearms are still very tight, and they do not respond well to good stretching techniques. I can't help but think that something has been overlooked along the road to diagnosis and treatment. I think that if the diagnosis is correct, the root cause identified, and the intervention is good, there should be a resolution. Not yet.
This is a great video with useful, practical suggestions. Thank you!
Such an informative video many thanks 😊
I am having forearm pain on top of the elbow area. It’s been 6-7 months. Sometimes it’s very bad. Can’t even do simple tasks.
Thanks for the quite informative video. I have tennis an elbow problem in my right elbow for 3 months. Done ultrasound found 4mm tear in tendon. The doctor suggested taking a cortisone injection, but I don't want to take it. Now im having a problem with my left hand. I work in the production department and it is repitativ work. At the moment, im taking care of the elbow by wearing braces and doing light work.Please guide me on how long it will take to heal tendon tear? Do they heal over a period of time or tear won't heal? Do I need to go for an injection? Thanks.
I have my 225 pound son walk on my arms...I actually have knots in my bicepts.
My right elbow keeps popping and sore sometimes
What should I do;;;
Mark Rippetoe recommends doing slow chin-ups for two to three reps and a total of 20 sets. Do this for about five sessions. It will hurt a lot but eventually fixes it.
Thank-you, yes my pain comes from indoor rock climbing (not tennis!) basically ramping up my training volume.
Got a tennis elbow to the point I could still play, but when I would push the lower arm and the joint, it would hurt. Also slight stiffness would appear the day after. I quit playing for almost two weeks, started fasting for 4 days in a row per week and took magnesium and collagen next to healthy food like fish, kiwi, hemp seeds, goji berries, inca berries, … after less than a week I started playing again and it is much better. No more pain, no more stiffness. I wouldn’t say i got rid of it completely but I’m playing a bit less now (not every day multiple times anymore). I also think that if you stop using that arm, your tendons are not getting stronger and the problem will come back as soon as you restart your activity…
Look, I'm desperate at this point. This was a tease to me. I already have modified everything, including elbow placement while I sleep. I thought you were going to give some simple exercises to strengthen while allowing the tendon to heal: typical PT stuff. Instead I get to see someone doing an exercise which is not used, and people doing climbing. The latter is just torture to us, who can't even do our daily things that we need to without pain. Disappointing.
I stopped working for 2 weeks now as it was probably caused by typing - dual tennis elbow and carpal tunnel in left hand..
My wrists ache and shoulders, as well as elbows/arms... I can't type longer than 15 minutes without starting to have pain :(..
I also have hypermobility... which probably doesn't help.
Any tips in addition?
Do you have tips for people that have injured wrists from recovered carpal tunnel syndrome? I can't arch my wrists 90 degrees like all these ridiculous elbow exercise videos say. I'd rather live with elbow pain indefinitely, to avoid a carpal tunnel flareup. Carpal tunnel injuries are several times worse than elbow pain. Can I just skip the bent wrist stuff?
I got my tennis elbow from raking rocks and it's been over 3 months and it still hasn't gone away! I do a lot of video editing, so my arm is in a bent, fixed position where the only movement is my fingers clicking the mouse for several hours a day. Could this be the reason it hasn't healed yet? Any tips, since I can't really avoid having to do it?
I think irritation from computer work is usual carpel tunnel (probably spelled that wrong) same thing basically but different tendon. Of course you could have both irritated.
It could be, it was one of the things for me. Nowadays I can’t work with a normal mouse, I got the ergonomic one... not sure what it’s called, kinda looks like a fat fin. And helped a lot coupled with a couple of excersises I found online and it’s getting better altough extremely slowly it’s still a progress. And it’s incredible to finally have hope of maybe fixing it sometimes in the future. Good luck! I hope yours improves too!
I have developed tendinitis in my right elbow primarily. I have felt slight symptoms in my left elbow but not often. My right elbow now hurts most of the time especially after work. I’m a driver and drive up to 11 hours a day up to 70 hrs a week. I believe the issue is with over gripping. I’ve started to try relaxing my grip, not over lapping my fingers as much and trying to keep pressure and control on the steering wheel with my palm but there are times when I do have to have more control and I’m forced to grip tightly. I try to vary my hand position on the wheel when I can but the safest hand positions are the cause of the problem. I stay in these hand positions most often. I’ll start incorporating these tips and trying the wrist support instead of the elbow strap as much. If you have more in depth advice for professional drivers please send it.
OMG. Just get to the point, man. 13 minutes to say what you could’ve said in 3.
Very educational, thank you
I’m almost at a year from my and started from vball but I can’t quit playing Trying to do some of this rehab stuff and cut back a day of volleyball. Hope that’s enough 😩😩
Ive had this for years low pain. But now, this crap is very tender. Trying to get a referral, 8 hrs a day moderate/hard tyoing.
Hey! I’ve been dealing with a tendinitis over almost a year now and it doesn’t seem to be healing as I expected and it’s jeopardizing my climbing and music playin. I’m a professional musician and passionate climber.
Is personal consultation something you offer via Skype or similar? Please let me know because this video really gave me hope.
Which is more likely to cause Tennis elbow, a golf swing, or using the mouse all day?
both can be challenging but on opposite sides of the elbow - the golf swing is the inside of the elbow, the mouse is the outside, and both have unique challenges - golf swing is a problem of too much force when tissues are not strong/adapted, and mouse is a problem of too much repetition with reduced conditioning - a solution for both requires increasing capacity via exercises and changing postures while working frequently (every 30 minutes or so doing elbow/shoulder/wrist exercises and stretches). good luck!
@@focusrehab Thank you for the information, i definately have the issue on the outside of my elbow. I use the mouse 6-7 hours a day and I swing the golf club about 100x daily..trying to figure this out. Its been lingering 8-9 weeks now and hurts!
Really concise, excellent information. Thanks for providing this as a free resource.
Is swimming ok ? Or will it harm it? My dr says its ok to go swimming.
I've had mine for a year and it has only gotten worse. Thinking I might need to get an FMLA form for this and take a month off at least, I can't work with this pain.
Hi there I’m 13 and I think I got my problem from the gym I saw a physician and they said I had tricep tendonitis I did all the things they said to do and it didn’t help after that I got a job a month later I only had 2 shifts a week but it hurt when I was working but I just went through the pain at school and work and it turned into a worse problem know I have pain and aching in my elbow wrist and forearm and the only time I can wrest it is in the holidays I’ve had it for over a year any tips I can do for when I’m at work and school
This is great info IF your that will respond to PT. I have a large tendon tear no PT will help. Get an MRI!
I had surgery on my left elbow last year for tennis elbow i now have it in my right elbow , ive had 2 cortisone injections but it always comes back
Thank you for this video
Doc said I've damaged tendons in my elbow and still sore after 10wk...got physio booked a day this has given me plenty food for thought....do you recommend getting a tens machine to treat this?
Me…So many wrongs. Thanks for so many rights.
my whole life is falling apart with this damn thing. Months and months, will not get better.
6 Weeks? 😂
How about 6 years
Mine is from climbing, and not healing after 2 months. I've tried everything.
I am thanking you for this video. You have explained things in a specific way and I believe it will help to rid of my elbow pain..
Driving a car causes the elbow pain / tennis elbow?. Please advice, I can manage to reduce my driving activity in accordance.
AWESOME information‼✅⭐
Very informative. Thanks.