I plowed with a similar outfit this past Spring in NE IL with my brother. It was easily pulling an IHC 4-16s plow. What a brute! It sure was fun operating something so powerful. Enjoy your vintage equipment.
I spent the summer of 1972 running 830's in the wheat fields of northern Oklahoma for my grandfather. I was 14 years old and we ran two, three or four 830's in the same field.
Spent a lot of time on an 820 just like that, but farmed in dryland Montana, I'm admiring the straight lines, maybe following the gps planter... My dad always said you get more acres done in a crooked line...
Just found this video, love that black soil, good for corn! Those big 2 cyl diesels never caught on around here. Plenty of the gas row crops though. Can recall going to the big sale barns in Sikeston Mo back in the late 60s. there would be dozens of the old 80 s through 830s on the block, cheap. The big planters in the south were updating their fleets with new generation power. Any tractor that sold for over $500. ( I think) had a ride and drive guarantee, if not what you thought, don't accept it. They would run it through the sale again later. Tried to get Dad to buy one, but he was only there for the show! Now they bring too much for a play toy. There also would be the little N series Fords there by the ( seems ) hundreds! Big trucks would have then stacked piggy back so as to get as many as possible on the trailers. Take the steering wheel off and had a bracket there to let the front of the next tractor tie on to! Small lot buyers would buy them for small livestock farmers, they could put one in the bed of a standard pickup truck to haul home. Put on an after market loader and 3 pt blade on the back for cleaning feed lot and dairy barns. Those would average around $1,000. if they ran. It was a common practice then to put in an inexpensive over haul kit and they were good as new.
My cousin who is the farmer of the land, intentionally doesn't have all the coulters on. He likes some chaff visible so as to help with less blowing of the soil.
my uncle had a 730 and then a 720.. I am always impressed how these tractors seem to outperform their HP rating. Makes me wonder why the mfg don't rate tractors by Torque.
@@leonardcollings7389 What was bigger to prove that? The combustion chamber was very similar to Caterpillar's. Adding a 3rd cylinder would have been tremendous or make a 3 or 4 cylinder from a 730 arrangement.
Still are for being a 60 year old two cylinder. Saw a rebuilt 830 pull a 25,000 pound sled at the county fair a few years back. I'd almost recon a small farm could _easily_ prosper with one as it's main tillage tractor. Edit: only downsides would be expense of replacing parts and the lack of Modcons. As a kid who grew up picking rocks with a jd 70 gas I could easily go without the modcons.
@@rudycarlson8245 We sure do. Some front-end and clutch work were done last year and we had it in the field plowing this past September. It's really fun to operate this machine.
@@hitterdalplowing1987 My first experience with the two cylinder diesel was the model R when I was about 14 years old the first time I saw the R I was an absolute awe! Loved it for the moment I saw it first time I saw the R was at a tractor show when it was on the sawmill
in all them older tractors they had the big flywheels as in the old steamers there is where the lugging power came from low rpm and the massive flywheel to keep them going
I was trained on IH to listen to the engine ,you know when pulling sometimes to let up on the strain ,well you don't plow JD like IH JD 2 cylinder don't choke down they pull ,this old 830 is tops in it class like 6030
John deere always had the problem of one gear being to high and the lower gear being to low... They have always needed that gear in the middle... For example my 4450... There is nothing between A3 and A4... There were other makes that did have that gear in the middle and it made a huge difference... But I am a jd fan... This is a nice running 830...
I like how everyone shows a video of their tractor running up on a Deere while plowing. Get into the Gumbo and see what happens. Best of all, compare the amount of work done per gallon of fuel. It took until 1984 to find something to beat a 2 cylinder diesel for fuel economy.
I think it is more to do with the kid driving the 830, it wasn't a race, it looked like a fun day. Not a color war, just enjoy and can the bs about 60 year tractors that are not used today, but for FUN!
@@nbcnco25 spot on! That kid is an expert operator. I ran up on him as I could go faster on the Super M. All of the people you see in the video love the green but also can appreciate any old tractor! As you see we own some red, too. And it was an amazing fun day.
I spent parts of the summers of 1968-69 driving an 820 for a relative of mine. I always wondered what was the difference between the 820 & 830? Did the 830 maybe have a few more horses than the 820?
Probably more HP, but I am guessing same improvements that other in 30 series had over the 20 series. The one I do know about is the steering. (I probably am not using the correct technical terms.) The steering on 20 series was power assisted steering. The rod that the steering wheel is mounted goes all the way to the front of the tractor to the top of the front wheels pedestal. In the 30 series this rod was no longer needed. The steering was a servo-style hydraulic steering. The steering wheel was tipped at a more comfortable angle and it turned a servo motor. A pair of hydraulic lines went from the servo motor to a hydraulic cylinder that actually turned the front wheels. The 30 series steering laid the foundation for the same steering that the following generation tractors used. I grew up on a 630 & 3020. For the 620 power steering to really be smooth, the engine rpms had to be high. If the front wheels hit a rut, you could feel some backlash in the steering wheel. The 3020 steering worked smoothly at all engine rpms. It took less effort to turn the 3020 steering wheel and there was no backlash.
@@smidtwarner Thanks for your reply. I was not aware of the changes you mentioned and that could be the case. Whether the dash boards on these tractors or some other cosmetic changes were made I cannot say but I wouldn't think that would be enough to change the model number, but who knows? I never put any time in on an 830 but I know both of them were really good tractors.
There are two versions of the 820.The early ones had a green dash and were nearly identical to the model 80. The later version had a black dash and the same hp as the 830. The sheet metal was updated and hydrostatic steering were the main differences between the 830 and the black dash 820. Horsepower was boosted by about 7 I believe over the 80 and the green dash 820.
I hope to see that 4020 this year and if so, I will definitely get more video. It's a beautiful tractor. I really wish I would have taken it on a few rounds.
@@covid-19ispsychologicalwar10 Winter? Driver has T-shirt, trees has green sheets, grass of off stubble is green..... .... The truth is your agriculture and your products are full off chemicals! That's why I avoid foods when I'm not sure there isn't inside flour from North America
2 cylinders. No turbo. Straight cut gears. Gotta love that symphony! 🥰
I plowed with a similar outfit this past Spring in NE IL with my brother. It was easily pulling an IHC 4-16s plow. What a brute! It sure was fun operating something so powerful. Enjoy your vintage equipment.
I spent the summer of 1972 running 830's in the wheat fields of northern Oklahoma for my grandfather. I was 14 years old and we ran two, three or four 830's in the same field.
I envy these farmers with these old John Deeres. I love the sound of them.
Spent a lot of time on an 820 just like that, but farmed in dryland Montana, I'm admiring the straight lines, maybe following the gps planter... My dad always said you get more acres done in a crooked line...
Those 2 cyl are great. Brings back good memories
My grandfather farmed with an 820 with the gas pup motor for starting..love the old Johnny Poppers...thanks for sharing
Just found this video, love that black soil, good for corn! Those big 2 cyl diesels never caught on around here. Plenty of the gas row crops though. Can recall going to the big sale barns in Sikeston Mo back in the late 60s. there would be dozens of the old 80 s through 830s on the block, cheap. The big planters in the south were updating their fleets with new generation power. Any tractor that sold for over $500. ( I think) had a ride and drive guarantee, if not what you thought, don't accept it. They would run it through the sale again later. Tried to get Dad to buy one, but he was only there for the show! Now they bring too much for a play toy. There also would be the little N series Fords there by the ( seems ) hundreds! Big trucks would have then stacked piggy back so as to get as many as possible on the trailers. Take the steering wheel off and had a bracket there to let the front of the next tractor tie on to! Small lot buyers would buy them for small livestock farmers, they could put one in the bed of a standard pickup truck to haul home. Put on an after market loader and 3 pt blade on the back for cleaning feed lot and dairy barns. Those would average around $1,000. if they ran. It was a common practice then to put in an inexpensive over haul kit and they were good as new.
Case 930 did very well on fuel as well. As far as the missing coulters, only the last one is needed to make a good, clean furrow.
My cousin who is the farmer of the land, intentionally doesn't have all the coulters on. He likes some chaff visible so as to help with less blowing of the soil.
That's what we did.
Kiddo making best memories in a lifetime
I owned two 730,s during the seventies four sixteen,s ten inches deep fourth gear wonderful power...am only now realize the great tractor they were..
In sand
@@RJ1999x Now they would consider plowing 10 inches deep insane.
@@leonardcollings7389 depends what you're after I guess, we always plowed around 8" which was pretty much the norm
Great older tractor. Very powerful in it's day.
A healthy JD is one that’s pulling hard!…I can smell it from here!
my uncle had a 730 and then a 720.. I am always impressed how these tractors seem to outperform their HP rating. Makes me wonder why the mfg don't rate tractors by Torque.
666 RPM and the things will lug all day.
@@leonardcollings7389a myth
Yes Sir, 68 HP 10” deep at a fast walk pullin 5 16’s ..... get a lot done in a day. Sure does sound good. ❤️😃
830 D was the ultimate in the two-cylinder line. any bigger and they were no longer fuel-efficient.
@@leonardcollings7389 What was bigger to prove that? The combustion chamber was very similar to Caterpillar's. Adding a 3rd cylinder would have been tremendous or make a 3 or 4 cylinder from a 730 arrangement.
10"? Is this the same ruler you used to measure your ...
@@RJ1999x no I eyeball the depth, cause Dad said that was deep enuf; he never did go “measure” it so I got away with a bit less.
@@normsweet1710 he's more like 5" deep by the tire
I like How they plowed a strip on the End to let the plow get a clean cut when going into the ground
born raised on them 2 bangers, a G a 720 an 730 an 830 all very strong pulling tractors but I am deef from the poppop for too many hours
Joe Scheller I can’t hear. Mostly for the same reason.
That tractor was a monster back in the day
I really do love plowing with it!
Still are for being a 60 year old two cylinder. Saw a rebuilt 830 pull a 25,000 pound sled at the county fair a few years back.
I'd almost recon a small farm could _easily_ prosper with one as it's main tillage tractor.
Edit: only downsides would be expense of replacing parts and the lack of Modcons. As a kid who grew up picking rocks with a jd 70 gas I could easily go without the modcons.
@@danbeske4830 you still have this old girl?
@@rudycarlson8245 We sure do. Some front-end and clutch work were done last year and we had it in the field plowing this past September. It's really fun to operate this machine.
@@hitterdalplowing1987 My first experience with the two cylinder diesel was the model R when I was about 14 years old the first time I saw the R I was an absolute awe! Loved it for the moment I saw it first time I saw the R was at a tractor show when it was on the sawmill
The power of 7.7 liters or 470 ci. How cool to think about 235 ci in each cylinder. That's where lugging power is rooted! Sparky
in all them older tractors they had the big flywheels as in the old steamers there is where the lugging power came from low rpm and the massive flywheel to keep them going
I got to agree with you, Joe. I remember plowing with a “D”, pulling four bottoms.
When starting the engine let the decompress lever off before opening the fuel lever,
What a great kid
I was trained on IH to listen to the engine ,you know when pulling sometimes to let up on the strain ,well you don't plow JD like IH JD 2 cylinder don't choke down they pull ,this old 830 is tops in it class like 6030
John deere always had the problem of one gear being to high and the lower gear being to low... They have always needed that gear in the middle... For example my 4450... There is nothing between A3 and A4... There were other makes that did have that gear in the middle and it made a huge difference... But I am a jd fan... This is a nice running 830...
Excelente para los que no vivieron la época de john deere 830 y 720
This was my Dads favorite Tractor and mine to.
I wish I knew where that was taking place
What model of JD 5 bottom plow is that? 14s or 16s?
Love to see the boys plowing
Nice video and nice dirt.
The muffler blew out on ours. IIRC, the neighbor could tell if we were running it 5 miles away, lol.
Nice running 830..
What a sweetheart!
Thanks, Kevin! Sadly, this tractor was sold. I really wish it would have remained on the farm.
That dirt is super black. Out here in Northeastern Colorado it’s brown and rusty lookin
What a beast.
Top quality power there buddy
as the old saying goes put the red back in the shed sounds like a bubble bee
Power Full 😃
THAT BOY WAS ME 55 YEARS AGO
kid cuts a good line.
He's a great operator and a fine young man.
I like how everyone shows a video of their tractor running up on a Deere while plowing. Get into the Gumbo and see what happens. Best of all, compare the amount of work done per gallon of fuel. It took until 1984 to find something to beat a 2 cylinder diesel for fuel economy.
thegreenerthemeaner big difference in the size of the plow also farmalls 3 bottom vs John Deere 5 bottom
I think it is more to do with the kid driving the 830, it wasn't a race, it looked like a fun day. Not a color war, just enjoy and can the bs about 60 year tractors that are not used today, but for FUN!
@@nbcnco25 spot on! That kid is an expert operator. I ran up on him as I could go faster on the Super M. All of the people you see in the video love the green but also can appreciate any old tractor! As you see we own some red, too. And it was an amazing fun day.
@@nbcnco25 Small world Nick
I guess they could not find the other 4 coulters for the plow!
nice rig
Do you know a model number for that plow? Thanks
I spent parts of the summers of 1968-69 driving an 820 for a relative of mine. I always wondered what was the difference between the 820 & 830? Did the 830 maybe
have a few more horses than the 820?
Probably more HP, but I am guessing same improvements that other in 30 series had over the 20 series. The one I do know about is the steering. (I probably am not using the correct technical terms.) The steering on 20 series was power assisted steering. The rod that the steering wheel is mounted goes all the way to the front of the tractor to the top of the front wheels pedestal. In the 30 series this rod was no longer needed. The steering was a servo-style hydraulic steering. The steering wheel was tipped at a more comfortable angle and it turned a servo motor. A pair of hydraulic lines went from the servo motor to a hydraulic cylinder that actually turned the front wheels.
The 30 series steering laid the foundation for the same steering that the following generation tractors used. I grew up on a 630 & 3020. For the 620 power steering to really be smooth, the engine rpms had to be high. If the front wheels hit a rut, you could feel some backlash in the steering wheel. The 3020 steering worked smoothly at all engine rpms. It took less effort to turn the 3020 steering wheel and there was no backlash.
@@smidtwarner Thanks for your reply. I was not aware of the changes you mentioned and that could be the case. Whether the dash boards on these tractors
or some other cosmetic changes were made I cannot say but I wouldn't think that would be enough to change the model number, but who knows?
I never put any time in on an 830 but I know both of them were really good tractors.
There are two versions of the 820.The early ones had a green dash and were nearly identical to the model 80. The later version had a black dash and the same hp as the 830. The sheet metal was updated and hydrostatic steering were the main differences between the 830 and the black dash 820. Horsepower was boosted by about 7 I believe over the 80 and the green dash 820.
Please show more vids of the 4020
I hope to see that 4020 this year and if so, I will definitely get more video. It's a beautiful tractor. I really wish I would have taken it on a few rounds.
Wish the depth plowing would be given and perhaps a standard for that depth be considered.
10 kubota humpers hate this video lmao . Dayum he's pulling in 4th !
HAH! I know, right? Why would anyone down vote this unless they really despise green? I guess that could be it.
Nice video.
How much fuel do you burn in hour working like that
Put a set of skims on that plough and make a really nice job .
Ай да американы , молодцы , пашут прицепными плугами !
I can smell this video...
Those tractors had a pleasing smell to their diesel smoke .loved working at night they put a nice fireball out the stack.
All that tractor wants is to go!
Que potência tem o trator 830
Como me.gurataria tener para el campo de santiago del Estero monte quemado uno así
I will take the M Farmall much quieter..
M Hoff Not nearly as powerful as these beasts were, still nice tractors but an 830 beats an M any day.
I had a 1952 A ran circles around a farmall 400 gas every 3 laps i caught up, both plowing with 3-14s
And use more fuel
Where is grass? Your land is dead!!!
It’s called winter, genius.
@@covid-19ispsychologicalwar10
Winter? Driver has T-shirt, trees has green sheets, grass of off stubble is green.....
.... The truth is your agriculture and your products are full off chemicals!
That's why I avoid foods when I'm not sure there isn't inside flour from North America