Steph Curry's Finals MVP cements him in Chris Broussard's Top 10 of all time | FIRST THINGS FIRST
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- Steph Curry now has 4 Finals Championship under his belt after leading the Golden State Warriors to win Game 6 against the Boston Celtics. But it was the ever elusive MVP award that sparked Chris Broussard to place the Warriors' star in his Top 10 NBA players of all time alongside Michael Jordan, Shaquille O'Neal and LeBron James. Watch as Nick Wright shares his thoughts on Broussard naming Steph one of the ten best players of all time.
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Bussard is stupid if he thinks steph is better than wilt, moses, dr jay, david thompson, oscar roberson, even bob MACCADO
Why doesn’t he win 2 without KD? He already has lol. He could easily have 4 without KD.
Ok so Steph doesn’t win 2 with out KD but Kobe doesn’t win 3 without Shaq, Magic and Kareem don’t win 3 without eachother. This double standard is such bs
Magic was a rookie, Kobe was a Rookie. Kd was a scoring champ and MVP. Context is important
Even worse is that KD isn't even a top 10 player so those teams had 2 top 10 players helping each other but somehow Steph championships are less impressive? Wow.
Nice bro.! So solid!
Fair point
Nope not a fair point, the point is KD is the reason they won those 2, can’t be top 10 when not even best guy on the team !!
Reggie Miller: "For years Steph Curry has been knocking at the door of the Top Ten all-time players. Now he's KICKED THE DOOR DOWN!"
The Mount Rushmore of 3pt shooters is Steph Curry four times
🤣🤣nah it’s just 2 people. It would be Steph and klay 😂
Nah 3 times and Ray Allen stop the disrespect.
Your moms up there too
Steph, Allen, Reggie, Klay
and Manute Bol
I don’t understand these people saying having KD during the two titles disqualified him from being top 10 because he wouldn’t have won those without him. Yet they have both Kobe and Shaq in the top 10. Neither of them would have those 3 titles without the other. Shouldn’t it then by their own logic disqualify both from being top ten ? 🤦🏽
Exactly! 💯
Lebron wouldn't win in¿f he didn't form the superteam in Miami with champion Wade and Chris Bosh.
The correct argument would be lebron & wade. Like curry & kd they went out their way to join each other. Shaq ultimately went to LA for more money & Kobe was traded for on draft night.
I agree but to play devils advocate both Shaq and Kobe won a championship without each other. Can’t say the same about KD when it comes to Steph.
@@Kizamusic That would only apply to KD. But Steph won without KD twice. KD is not top 10 and Steph won with him. Kareema &Magic, Kobe and SHaq.
So what does Steph have to do to be considered one of the top greats? No one is answering that question. Critics keep holding him to criteria they’re not applying to the others in the top 10, such as having great teammates. At this point, critics have their faves and I believe there will always be something they’ll use to knock Steph. He will always be held to an impossible standard because he plays the game differently than Jordan, Lebron, and Kobe.
Facts
He’s never held to a impossible standard the only player who is is lebron
If both sides of the ball are being judged then he clearly will not be a top ten player.
He’s top 15 not top 10 all time. Never been considered best player in league both years he won mvp lbj was best player in league, Kobe mj and lbj has more final mvps, points all time, defensive team selections, all nba selections, all star appearances etc
Its because hes just not as good hes just 3 point shooter not great rebounder not great passer hes only offense no defense the others are all time defensive players steph is not
Nick is talking out both sides of his mouth again. He was giving the Celtics fans a hard time for having 9 titles when the league had fewer than 10 teams, but is okay with 2 players from that Era being in the top 10. Pick a side Nick.
Nick Wright in a paragraph
This is a good point sheesh
He’s on the slander the warriors / curry side. He’s a Bron fan so it’s typical
Which two Celtic players are you speaking of?
@@mrflynn01 I was saying Nick has two players from the 1960s (Bill Russell and Wilt) in his top ten, even though a week ago he was spewing hate at the Celtics fans for bragging about having 9 rings from that Era, since there were 10 or fewer teams in the league during that time.
Yes. Stephen Curry has done it all. His talent as a player makes him an all time great, but his humble nature and leadership make him a once in a lifetime player and the ultimate fundamental piece of a dynasty. Truly have enjoyed watching this man’s greatness over the last 10 years. I know his game 4 will be the memorable performance, but I thought he was excellent tonight. 34-7-7-2 on efficient splits and really solid, disruptive defense on a night where nobody other than Draymond stepped up offensively.
Humble? Steph Curry ain't humble. He's a lot of things, humble ain't one of them
@@YouCallThataKnife253 why? Cuz the media says it’s not humble to shimmy and celebrate? That’s not what determines if your humble or not.
@Flex what does being petty got todo with being humble?
@@chrisgeorge84 hahah I’m guessing these guys think Lebron the humble one💀
Amen brother
I actually liked this debate since Nick was lauding WIlt's and Hakeem's accomplishments to have them in the top 10, but not trashing Steph's credentials like Skip would.
Hakeem can’t be in a top 10. Apart from a 2 year anomaly he was unable to elevate his teams outside his individual dominance.
Nick is tripping saying he’s never seen a top 10 without Hakeem, more have him outside the top 10 than in it
@@hardwoodthought1213 anomaly years? Goodness LOL
You should be embarrassed. Hakeem has all time regular season/all time playoff stats. He is solidly top 10
Agreed. This was a good segment.
@@hardwoodthought1213 Nah
If you have Kobe top 5 then your opinion is invalid about Hakeem's place all time.
@@ultimateyagerman I agree Kobe isn’t close to top 5, he could even be under Hakeem.
But Hakeem is fringe top 10, people acting like it’s an insult to not have him there are really behind pulled in by his all time great seasons whilst ignoring the fact he rarely elevated his teams far
Curry dominated the 3pt shoot like Wilt dominated the inside, championships are the difference.
Stop it. And put Curry's rings in context. Two of his rings he had easy paths to victory in 2015 & 2018 by beating Bron by himself. Makes the 4 seem not so impressive
@@bfns2353 no you stop it cuz if we doin context then put context on the ones they lost, 2016 had injuries themselves to bogut, Iggy and Steph himself, 2019 no KD and Klay in a out all series until he was fully out tearing his ACL game 6 so lebron and kawhi only beat curry when his team dealt with injuries, this year everyone relatively healthy on both sides gave the best defense Celtics a 30 piece every game except game 5
@@SaraTBV Tatum and Robert Williams were both playing with injuries. Again injuries in GS favor. Steph choked in 2016 Finals, he wasn't injured when he dropped 38 points in game 4. Also Bogut and Iggy being hurt doesn't compare to Kyrie and Love being out an entire series or Bron and Love going against Steph,KD,Klay, Draymond,Iggy,Nick Young
@@bfns2353 Lebron won three of his rings with super-teams he built himself and the last one in Covid-19 season where AD and he got long rest periods, which is probably the only reason they were both healthy at the end of the season. Let’s no do this. Kawhi only beat Steph because both KD and Klay were injured. GSW probably would have won with just Klay. We could this all day. You can make an argument to invalidate almost every championship ring.
@@justindwarika2523 which are those 3 super teams according to you?
The only unanimous mvp!!!!!
Should’ve been like the 8th.
@@KleinpeterHank Boo hoo, should've, could've, would've. Remember that's what y'all used to say about Curry having no Finals MVPs 🤣
Why do people forget that without KD the warriors took a healthy Cleveland to 7 games in the finals (with a suspension to Dramond and they were up 3-1)... you don't think if they run that back and Dramond isn't suspended they couldn't have won without KD? it was at least a 50/50 shot
Especially since everyone loves to talk about how hard Lebron carried his team in 2017 and 2018
GS would also have had the salary to add some good players if they didn't get KD.. KD made the finals unfair (4-1 and 4-0), but without KD it's not like they would have had NO chance of winning.
@@jegca exactly lol.. who’s to say they don’t add Kawhi or PG
@@buttkicker900 I think they just needed a wiggins type (a bit better than barnes) and they couldve done it. i dont think adding another star was necessary to win again but it sure made it easier
@@locateemilio3230 for sure .. I’m just saying at that point because PG was ready to leave so he was an option, Jimmy Butler.. any top 5-7 wing player would’ve put GS over the top , but if you have a chance to get KD you do that
So if we canceled Steph Ring because of KD then maybe we need to canceled Kobe &Shaq and Magic&Kareem. you can't pick and chose. Steph only played with 1 top 75 and others play with more than 2.
Steph does not have as many final mvps, points all time, all nba team, all defensive selections, all star appearances, as Kobe or shaq or magic. He’s never been best player in the league. Both years he won mvp lbj was best player in the league.
@@Capcaller300 if he wasn’t the best player in the league then him pairing with KD shouldn’t have been level as unfair. Unless you are telling me that KD and Steph are more dominant than Magic and Kareem? And if that so then Steph is the top 10. He didn’t have another top 10 player playing with him yet he won 4.
@@Capcaller300 both year? his 1st MVP he won it all until finals and even deserved finals MVP he had 26ppg and played good defense. klay was not even klay at that time he avg 15ppg and he was a pure shooter.
2nd MVP? he was unanimous he was clearly the best in the league and being compared to MJ. and he lead the league in steals. almost won the finals 1 game away lost by less than 5 points even when he was not 100% because he missed a lot of playoff games due to injury and not fully recovered. and would have won in game 5 if dray did not get suspended. btw he lead his team to 73 wins.
@@Capcaller300Steph was definitely the best in the league in 2016 bruh
Chris has actually always been logical with how he looks at the game. My list is pretty close tbh but I think people have to acknowledge a lot of guys are interchangeable
Why are we listening to Antoine Walker??? His word doesn’t hold no weight. You gotta include the greatest shooter ever in the top 10…..He changed the game. He’s for sure a top 10.
The other day Antoine said Curry barely cracks top 20. Antoine Walker is a joke
@@A1PrimeTimeMovies yet he not even in the top 500 with his goofy self.
This the same dude said curry only top 30 a few months ago nobody should ever take his word
Steph aint top ten. Steph or shaq steph or Duncan steph or Hakeem. Its that simply. If you don't affect the game on both ends and can be dominant on both ends you aint top ten. On only bill has that right because he won so many rings. 4 aint much with 1 finals mvp. Child please
@@hasadiahjones620 yes it is that simple, the greatest shooter in any era of basketball. No one in the history of basketball has made more 3’s then him. That alone should merit a top 10 of all time.
My Top 12 in order. MJ, LeBron, Kareem, Magic, Wilt, Russell, Bird, Kobe, Shaq, Duncan, Hakeem, Steph.
Perfect list imo
@@jasondayee8363 nah switch the first 2
I like it I’d have russel over wilt and Duncan over Shaq other than that I’m With it
@@johncena4096 stop capping
@@mattmaltese8375 Jordan struggled against Reggie Miller. LeBron and Kobe would eat him alive.
In some categories steph is in a class of his own
It's interesting. They want to credit Wilt for championships he lost because of the quality of the Boston teams he lost to and want to discredit Step or championships he won because of KD.
To Twan's argument. Couldn't you argue that if you put ANY other max wing/pf in Golden State's lineup from 2016-2019 that they would have won those chips? I think this finals is a compelling argument for that. No one had Andrew Wiggins in the top 10 of wings in the NBA coming into this season (LeBron, KD, Kawhi, PG, Jimmy Butler, Jason Tatum, Demar Derozan, Kris Middleton, Jaylen Brown, Bradley Beal, Brandon Ingram, then finally you can discuss Wiggins. Using that as a premise, if you throw any of the aforementioned guys in their primes on the 2016 Warriors or a PF like Anthony Davis the Warriors probably three-peat. It was the fact that KD was a 4th all-star that made Golden State unbeatable--that all-star being KD was just icing on the cake.
GS was up 3-1 in that finals and was even up in the game 7 at a point. They were capable of winning with that exact same team. A lot of things went wrong for GS that series. Boguts injury, Draymonds suspension Steph’s injury.
@@Kizamusic nah they just needed someone who could defend and hit open shots/attack the rim at SF. Something Harrison Barnes proved he couldn't do it's pretty simple.
@@winssports4830 They were tied in a game 7 with the Cavs with a minute left. Both teams were pretty much evenly matched. Warriors could easily been on the other side of their L. The margins were that slim for both sides.
@@Kizamusic agreed and as much as I'm a huge Steph fan and Klay fan both were awful that series yet it still went 7. They never needed KD at the same time he was available they had the money why not sign the best get a bucket guy available lol.
@@winssports4830 I get why they went and got him but I kinda wished they didn’t. I always felt like the 2 championships with him weren’t gonna be worth as much as one they would have won without him.
I love how steph cant be in the top 10 because KD was on his team and too good of a player while magic and Kareem had each other for almost all of their championships and are both top10.
Right Kobe had O’Neal, Irving had Malone, James had Wade/Irving/Davis, Jordan had Pippen but Curry is not allowed to have great players 😂😂😂
Antoine a fool. Curry got 4 rings, how is that carried away? I wanna hear a player, outside top 10/15 with more rings that is better than curry. I know rings aren’t everything, but he’s also done tons for the league.
Also, I don’t get this love for wilt. I mean he was dominant no doubt, but there were also 10 nba teams back then. Like Russell smoked him. Yes Russell had 8 HOFs, that’s why he barely sneaks in at 10.
That's kds baby daddy
Wow! So Solid!!!
he has 2 rings. KD nullified the other 2
@@xordus lol. Love that take. Should we nullify all Kareem, magic, shaq, and Kobe rings that they played together?
@@austincavaliere8699 not at all bro, thats not what I said. I said if those guys played together AND THEN ADDED THE 2ND BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE!! It's not hard bro, think.
Stephen curry is OFFICIALLY the face of the NBA and the best player in the league, he took over lebron's era,
Jordan ( 1992) Kobe ( 2002) Lebron ( 2012) Curry ( 2022)
Y’all do this every time somebody wins. 2019 kawhi last years Giannis now steph. Watch the game instead of hopping on hype trains
@@denimjeg Facts so goofy
It’s awesome to see that I’m not the only one with Steph ahead of Shaq.
Why is LeBron above Kobe, Duncan, Magic, Kareem?
He won less times than all of those guys. Not even sure how is he above Shaq.
And now that Curry has 4, why is LeBron over him as well?
If nothing, Curry clearly has the more efficient resume. Took him less time to get 4 rings. And dude changed the game. Actually makes others around him better. And can play with pretty much anyone. Unlike James and most of these guys on the list.
It's like they insert him there because of his position. He's the best at that position. But not really sure how does that make him better than these greats who are at completely different positions.
Lol 😂
How many rings does Magic have without Kareem? How many rings does Kareem have without Magic? How many does Shaq have without Kobe? How many does Kobe have with Shaq? How many does Lebron have without three all-stars? I could go on for every player mentioned here. Apparently Steph is the only one who won rings with an all-time great player. Yet, Steph won before KD, with KD and after KD. It’s obvious what Steph’s championship teams had in common. It’s Steph!
Facts
Ur argument is flawed but I agree w ur point
lebron has 4 without 3 all stars wtf u talking about? Heat he only had 1 all star, cavs he only had 1 all star and the Lakers he only had 1 all star
@@ryedye335 His arguing for Steph's inclusion in the top 10. He's not saying that Steph is better than Bron.😂
@@ryedye335 So was Bosh and Love not making all star teams when they were playing with Lebron because im pretty sure Chris Bosh made 4 consecutive all star teams in the 4 years Lebron was there, and Kevin Love made 2 all star teams when Lebron was there so Lebron had 2 other all stars with both the Cavs and Heat
It’s more impressive because he’s not a dunker or an athletic freak. He dominates the game on skill 30 feet from the basket.
Bird is my guy, but why is he ahead of Shaq. Shaq has 4 titles and 3 FMVPs. Bird really just has the two MVPs over him. I think the 1 title and 1 more FMVP equate or eclipse that discrepancy.
i never understood the love for bird , 3 titles 3mvps playing with hall of famers , and had a short carreer , doesnt appear in any top 10 of any statistic , its really WEIRD , i guess the rivalry (friendship)with magic boosted his fame
Facts bird ain’t better than steph or shaq. And shaq at 9 is disrespectful
The legend of bird is why some have him higher than he should be. "Leadership" is used to make his stats look better cause in a blind test they aren't shockingly great
Yeah, Bird's rivalry with Magic and the both of their impact on the NBA is why Bird is ranked usually in the 5-7 range all time. In reality if you look at the numbers he's more in the 8-10 range and could be bumped out of the top 10 when some of these younger legends come through
Bird was the Steph curry before Steph curry
Dubs in 6 like WE said 🤙🏽
Gang! 💯💪🏾
People hold so much for wilt, probably because of his individual stats, but wilt hasn't won as much as Steph. So I agree that wilt had to go
u need to be drugtested sir..lol
My understanding is that he seemed to have a Russel Westbrook streak of stat chasing, and had to be reigned in to play team ball
@@loookaroundyou yea a lot of times when the mention wilt they say he was more individual performance over the team his individual performance just so happened to be monstrous
@@WarchiefRoric There's a story I read of him one year deciding that it would be fun to lead the league in assists, so he changed the way he played, and would only pass to guys who were reliable in scoring immediately after a pass. If you put the ball down to dribble, no pass for you. He was before my time, but maybe if he had put winning and the team before himself, he might be ranked even higher by a lot of folks among the all-time greats
if you actually dig into wilts playoffs performances then you’d know how incredibly overrated his career is. he’s literally the reason why they lost 4 game 7s
Steph made the all time starting 5 in my book
Never sell that book lol
I agree sir. He brings something to the table nobody can match, shooting with an elite handle and midrange ability. Any all time starting five would be lucky to have him. Changed the game
well sure, thats a different argument. He might be the best PG ever. That still doesn't put him on the top 10 all-time players
@@xordus that doesn’t make sense. Unless you’re telling me Magic isn’t top 10, bcuz magic is a PG … so how can Curry simultaneously be the best PG ever and be ranked behind other PGs in the all time list? Make it make sense.
Steph is honestly top 5, at lowest top 7. There isn’t 5-7 other people who have impacted the game like he has nor has won like he has and he still has a few more good years to come
I agree with Broussard's TOP 10 list.
AW: “He’s in an elite group with those 7 guys”
Also AW: “He’s not in the top 10”
Somebody please make it makes sense.
Sure it's very simple.
Two different lists: 1 top 10 all time players. 1 Elite group of 7 who have achieved 4x NBA championships and 2x regular season MVPs
Hes not a top 10 all time player - because Wilt who is not on the list is better and should at least have Stephs spot.
Now a DIFFERENT CONVERSATION is there is the 7 players (the elite group of 7 that he speaks of) who have 4 NBA champion ships and 2 regular season MVP's. Steph curry is one of the SEVEN Players who have achieved that, and thus is in the "elite group of 7" with THIS particular achievement.
@@Pastaman314 Literally every guy from the elite 7 is also included in the top 10, except for Steph. lol So it’s not really two lists, its an irrational way to try and exclude a truly transcendent player.
As far you your blanket statement about Wilt being better. I would love to know what metric you used in order to compare a pre-modern era center with a PG that’s currently playing in the NBA. And unless you’re 60+ years old, I don’t that you’ve ever seen Wilt play.
Amazing how nobody talks about the antics of lebron to get Dray suspended. Without that suspension, GSW was winning that Chip! Just give the player his flowers. It's also scary that the under achievers in the game dont like steph for changing the game and subsequently winning titles. Lol just Stop it lol
So Solid!! wow!
And if love and kyrie wasn’t injured then warriors ain’t getting their first chip either
So what happen to game 7 wasn't he available 🤡🤣😂
@@jonolly8629 thank you they always love to forget that part
When you fail the whole semester because you got a 3 day suspension
Wilt is always in the top 10
Wilt the most overrated player of all time
@@SaraTBV dumbest comment I've seen all year. Congrats bud 🤣😂🤣😂
@@SaraTBV either 4th or 5th, interchangable with magic, you a casual
Steph Courage! Congrats to you and the Warriors organization...
Antoine trippin, Kobe needed Shaq for the first 3, Shaq won FMVP 3 times when the lakers 3 peated, Magic needed Kareem to win a bunch of chips, not his fault the warriors signed KD
Yeah thats the reason why the haven't kobe as a goat
now chris got my respect when he's considering steph is on of the top 10 well explained.
He did it man
He did it. Without KD. Wow.
Wiggins was so bad that teams didn't want him . Arrived at G.S. , Draymond and steph challenged him on getting better. ( like it happened with klay and Draymond when they arrived at G.S. ) Wiggins took the challenge. And got better. To the point that he made the ALLSTARS game for the first time in his career ,this same season. Wow. Steph a REAL LEADER
PREACH THAT THING CHRIS BROUSSARD 🙌👏🏿🙏👌💯❤ STEPH 🏆🏆🏆🏆MVP 💖🏆
I'm glad he spoke the truth about Steph 🙂❤
Doesn’t mean its true tho😂 Steph is only good at shooting 3’s
6'3 is no 1. for me. Look at those Giants compared to Him but still he dominate.
I think it's interesting that so many NBA analyst and media guys had Boston winning the series or it going 7 games. Literally everyone I know who watches basketball, including myself thought the Warriors would win in 6 or fewer. Lol I honestly thought it was gonna be a gentleman sweep
Yeah it was a gentleman sweep Boston got lucky with that insane game 1 4th quarter onslaught
And I got to respect The Golden State Warriors Steph Curry the original four Draymond Green Andre Iguodala and definitely Klay Thompson been there for all four titles 🏆🏆🏆🏆
Steph Curry the best pd for pd player ever!!!
then you realize that mj only weighed 20 more pounds more then curry
@@zoomdoof6107 20 pounds and 3 inches, thats a big gap
@@youraverage90sguys7 mj is twice as good as curry, not 20%
Bru went crazy I love it
Remember we don’t know LeBron gets 2 rings without joining Wade and bringing Bosh. (And scope out the rest of their teammates accolades)
I like Broussards list, but i got Steph at 9th, behind Shaq
No, Larry Bird should be at #9. If you think Bird is better than Shaq & Curry, you need to be arrested lol.
@@scottlo211
If you think someone should be arrested for an opinion on Basketball, you should be instituted. lol
@@scottlo211 bird is better then curry not shaq tho
@@tylerwest3161
Shaq= 4 titles, 3 Finals Mvps
Bird= 3 titles, 2 Finals Mvps
@@Nostalgia9478 If you think someone should br instituted for a joke, than you need to be drug tested.
Bird needed 6 hall of famers
That background beat they used during the segment was 🔥
i was gonna say that too 😂
Do they think you go up 3-1 by luck and then magically get 0-4 the next year when both teams have the same roster? Warriors definitely could of won in 2017 and they would of won in 2018 especially if Kyrie leaves. They didn’t need kd, they could of easily got a good center or a half of kd that they got in Wiggins and you see what happened with Wiggins
Lebron and them guys figured them out. Do you think Kyrie/Lebron will lose again the next year? That's not possible. And there is the mental advantage as well. Cos in 2015 he took them to 6 games with scrubs, so I doubt they feel they can really beat the Cavs.
Hakeem not being in Broussard top 10 is silly. Y’all just don’t know how good dream was.
Antoine’s laugh at the Bird vs Steph analysis 😂
my mount rushmore is steph curry with 4 different expressions
Stephen Curry is my favorite current NBA player. If he isn't a top ten all NBA player he is definitely top 15-20 at this point. Hakeem Olajwon is such an underrated NBA legend he is in my top ten all time greatest NBA players.
I think he is already or was top 16?! KD is 11 or 12 but now Curry is top 10.
Broussard just took em’ to church.
Per usual!
Awesome List Brou
Top 10 list is
1. Mj
2. Lebron
3. Kareem
4. Magic
5. Kobe
6. Duncan
7. Bird
8. Wilt
9. Shaq
10. Steph
11. Hakeem
12. Russell
Pretty good list
Hakeem and Russell over Steph when you factor in defense
@@nathanmulchandani2869 it’s factored in.. that’s how good Steph is on offense
@@nathanmulchandani2869 if you factor in defense then you factor in offense as well, so stop with this idiotic double standards. those 2 aren't even close offensively as what curry does offensively.
not only that, but you need to rephrase it as Hakeem and Russel in terms of RIM PROTECTION..... Rim protection ain't the only defense in today's NBA that they didn't have to deal with in the old era because 3s are as rare as a frckn unicorn that Centers back in that era didn't have to move away from the rim to be exploited by guards, and are being blown by for not being able to keep up.
@@sambalaskas5082 if that’s the case then the list is incorrect unfortunately
How do you NOT have Wilt when he owns most records? Steph over Shaq? You telling me if you were in a draft you’d take Steph over Shaq???? Steph over Hakeem? Shaq has 4 finals like Steph but he also has 3 finals MVPs!!!!
Yes everyone would take Curry over Shaq in modern NBA. Curry would cook shaq 1 on 1 shooting 3s while Shaq made 2pt dunks.
Shaq in modern day NBA would be a liability on defense closing out on 3pt shooters. Not to mention Shaq can’t shoot 3s, midrange or free throws. He was a one trick pony.
Wilt only one 1 ring against bill russel
@@patrick553 No GM with sense takes Steph over Shaq.
@@shawnwilliam1802
You dont basketball then. Bigs don’t get drafted at the top anymore.
It’s all shooters
GSW didnt need KD to win, that actually just made it an overkill. They would have won with the likes of Wiggins caliber coz the warriors are already a very good team.
Thank you. They needed something between Harrison Barnes and KD. Which is exactly what Wiggins is.
They wouldn’t have beat lbj without Durant those years
@@moneymoney3235 lbj barely beat golden state if it wasnt for Drays suspension when KD wasnt there. On top of that, Iggy (MVP the year before) injured and Bogut.
Too bad we’ll never know
@@moneymoney3235 kd ruin that for us because everyone was saying it was a fluke and we never got a chance to see
Making a Top 10 list of NBA players is just really difficult, yet really fun at the same time!
Steve Kerr is the greatest role player/head coach ever 3 with The Chicago Bulls 2 with The San Antonio Spurs as a role player and 4 championships as The Head Coach with The Golden State Warriors🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆overall 9 championships in total NBA🏀
What stands out about everyone's top 10 is Kareem and Magic played together and Kobe and Shaq did too to build their legacy. Can you really have teammates in a top 10 list? I don't think so as obviously their success relied on one another. I know Kobe and Shaq also won titles without one another, and I think Kareem as well, but the accumulated total wouldn't have been there without being teammates. You should pick the best of the teammates and leave the other off the list.
KOBE IS NOT TOP 10, MAYBE TOP 20.
@@s.franciswilliams7388 don't. Just dont
@@yoitshim1 🤡
Timeout… Before kobe died he was on number 8 or 9 but since then ppl trying to hard to put him higher above every time
This is simply not true. After Kobe won his fourth and fifth championships, many people routinely had him as high as top 3. His ranking has nothing to do with honoring him posthumously
I always had Kobe above MJ. I was born in the late 90s. Kobe was cooler to me.
No timeout....Kobe should be higher than six. He beat Duncan in 2001..2002..2004...2008. Duncan beat kobe 1999...2003...Kobe repeated twice and three peated. Duncan never repeated
And dont say he had Shaq.cause.Duncan had Robinson..Kawhi...Parker...Ginobili and Bowen.... Magic wasnt the.defender Kobe was nor scorer. 12 time all defenses....The only argument Kobe in my opinion in Kareem and MJ
@@treyivey9814 I understand your logic.. but Duncan had a 34 yr old Admiral while Kobe had a Prime Shaq and Gasol. Also when Duncan retired Kawhi was 24.. the only argument that stands true is that Duncan had Ginobli and Parker. But even Duncan's 2nd Championship... Parker was just 20yrs old.
A Prime Shaq was an amazing player.. Kobe wasn't even the best player as Shaq won Finals MVP.
Think that's why Duncan gets the respect. Also on top of that.. Duncan never missed the playoffs. Kobe did.
The counterintuitive, yet brilliant decision, by Curry to accept KD, sets Curry above and beyond other superstars, who, historically, would not sublimate their egos and accept a better player {arguably} on their team in pursuit of NBA Championships 🏆🏆🏆🏆 ...Which begs the question: is the builder more valuable than the bricks?
Chris definitely you are an accurate teacher.
Chris is hilarious 😂
All-Star MVP,Western Conference Finals MVP,and Finals MVP in 1 season
Please dont count western conference finals mvp😂
Broussard being a prisoner of the moment as always. He does that on The Odd Couple as well. How you going to put out a top 10 and not have Wilt or Hakeem in it?
Right
People use things to discredit Curry that they don't use to discredit anyone else on the list. Make it make sense.
Exactly like discrediting Steph for playing with KD for a few years but won't do it for magic that always had Kareem who's another all time great
I would not put him over Shaq or Russell, he’s good at 10. This KD rings aren’t something to be gloating about and beating Lebron with KD and Kyrie and Kevin Love injured isn’t something to gloat about either. With that being said, two time MVP, the only unanimous MVP, revolutionized the game and the 3pt god, he deserves to be top 10
So you bring up KD but what bout magic teaming a top 10 player in Kareem or Kobe with Shaq?
I would put Hakeem in place of Steph. I also do like that Chris didn't have Wilt in the top 10.
That is what immediately invalidated this list.
Did Hakeem change the game?
😂 Hakeem is not even close to Wilt
People disrespect Hakeem too much
I watched Hakeem played in 90's era. But i think no one like steph before that makes basketball so much easy on him. pure shooter.
This why i like Nick Wright he's about the only person in SM that'll show Dream some love.
Can they get someone else besides Walker? Dayumm
Steph is the Shaquille O'neal at the 3
Y’all find any reason to discredit Steph. He’s elite, one of 6 with multiple scoring titles, MVP, 4+ rings and now a FMVP. Quit holding on to those older players, they’ve been surpassed. I don’t wanna hear about KD, he did it without him that was the knock and now they wanna discredit it. Smh pathetic.
So Solid!!!
Broussard my guy and I love this cast !
Broussard nailed this list and thats why he's the GOAT. Nick needs to shut up and learn sometimes. Theres no way you can rank Hakeem ahead of Steph when Steph has twice as many rings. Same for Wilt Chamberlain.
Championships are important, but are not the only thing. Steph is ahead of Hakeem, but he’s still not at the top 10. I got in order, MJ, LBJ, Kareem, Bill Russell, Magic, Wilt, Bird, Duncan, Kobe, Shaq. Steph is 11th
4 players from before 2000. 6 players after. The game will continue to get better and better.
Are you counting Jordan's Wizard years as him belonging in the 2000s? Russell, Bird, Magic, Kareem and Jordan are pre 2000 players. Shaq is halfway. Only LeBron and Step started playing in the 2000s, all others played pre 2000s.
I agree with Nick, not having Wilt and Hakeem in the top 10 is wild
There is no way you can put those two and Bird above Steph. No way, it's a great way to disqualify yourself
Wilt wasn't a winner
@@binary Wilt wasn't a winner? You sound like a nba casual nothing to see here🥱
Great points Antoine!
Broussard used to have wilt nr 5 all time a few years ago, behind only mj,lbj,kaj and magic. Now he has him outside of top 10!!!
Steph is in my top 5. I'm going!
Michael Jordan Kareem Abdul-Jabbar magic Johnson Bill Russell Wilt Chamberlain Shaquille O'Neal Tim Duncan Kobe Bryant Larry Bird Stephen Curry I got LeBron James number 11
I don’t usually agree with Nick but I agree with him putting Steph 12th. Winning is a big part of being top 10 and he has the rings but Wilt is obviously a top 10 nba player of all time
It’s crazy that people are still denying Steph a top 10 spot
Antoine walker sounds dumb as you know what. Kareem and magic played together, shaq and Kobe, Bill Russell played with 8 other all stars and he's not holding that against them
It’s hard to name a respectable top 10 with steph in it
Nah he’s in,
Changed the game. Forever
I just can't fathom the hype around Wilt & Russell, I obviously understand their dominance when they played, but the NBA was a completely different sport back then, it was barely a full time job for many of the players. I also can't fathom bringing the rings into conversation, when there were ONLY 8 TEAMS for the majority of Bill's career.
Didn’t Antoine say Steph wasn’t in top 20. Couple weeks ago
The players you pick are not necessarily skill oriented but because of their size, they out beat the rest. Steph appeals and is skilled enough without needing size to be half the equation. He gives you a better game and entertainment and is just basically fun to watch. People love to watch his style of Basketball and I think he is definitely up there with the top 10. I think he has brought a lot to the game of basketball and the NBA should be indebted to him for just that reason. He is a person that has a great personality and is very down to earth. Adults and kids love him not just basketball fanatics. Because he isn’t 7ft tall he has to be outside the bounds of the greatest? Get with the times. Its all about skill today…..not just size.
Oh, he's definitely top 10 on a pound for pound view, or inch for inch comparison. Probably on an entertainment basis, and on a genius talent basis, as well. He's one of the legends, and for good reason.
But not without those adjusting factors. Not on total career achievements. Start by considering he has just 2 MVP awards. Bird had three in a row, and finished 2nd place at least three other times. Then consider others had 4, 5, or 6 MVPs.
Nick, Hakeem is my favorite player of all time... However, I'm here to tell you that there is NO argument to put him in front of Steph Curry. All the guys you mentioned that Hakeem had to go through while Jordan was gone, Steph basically did the same thing PLUS beat the Jordan of his era. Steph BEAT LeBron and KD, Steph BEAT Harden, Chris Paul, Westbrook, Dame, and all the future HOFers of his era. He even beat the up and coming face of the league, Luka, the same way Hakeem did Shaq.
Facts, Nick needs to get rid of his bias
Facts , talk that 💩 lol
Theres no answer for Steph offensively but theres also no answer for Hakeem offensively. What separates these two for me is Hakeem played bot sides of the ball. Hakeem is probably the best defensive player ever. On draft night I know who I'd be choosing.
You know that Hakeem is Top 25 (specifically at least Top 15) in 4 out 5 major categories of Basketball. The Dream is one of the most underated NBA players. He should definitely belong in Top 10 before Steph (who is around a Top 15ish player)
He never beat Lebron fair and square, first time Kevin Love and Kyrie injured, and the KD rings 🙄🙄 come on bro, those do not count. This chip is his move valuable because they finally beat a team fair and square while him being the best player. With that being said he’s top 10, at the 10 position though at most. He’s got back to back MVPs a unanimous one at that, plus the 3 point king and revolutionized the game. I swear if he didn’t get KD his legacy would be looked at waaaaaay better.
Steph> magic
ALL DAY EVERYDAY
casual
Big time casual
@@youraverage90sguys7 only thing magic better at is defense? And steph is WORLDS BETTER in ball handling, scoring and there about even in passing and leadership, and if you had to put one on ANY random great team, steph fits anything, dude could play on ball off ball, off bench, spot of shooter, magic can’t do half thoughs things IM SORRY you’re wrong
@@alexvollkommer1598 also its not a matter of skill when talking about all time, its about results and accolades
@@alexvollkommer1598 Did you just say Steph Curry was even with Magic as a passer? Absolute casual.
Magic could play all five positions, Curry cannot. If I need 40 Magic can do that. If I need 20 rebounds Magic can grab those, if I need 15 assists, Magic got me. Cannot say the same for Steph who on bad shooting nights is MASSIVELY less valuable.
A class taught by the man who picked the suns to win it all
No Wilt Chamberlain and Hakeem Olajuwon on Broussard's list is totally insane...
Some people not having Kobe in their top 10 is CRAZY to me
For you and for every fan of him. But for most of the people who are not Lakers Fans, he is around the 10 spot, i think. Just because he was never that dominant like MJ or LeBron, or even Shaq and Kareem
@@filipe10messiyou Kobe is interchangeable with Shaq or Duncan. Shaq doesn’t come out the West without Kobe. Failed with Penny, backseat to Wade. Shaq should be higher on the list but he didn’t stay in shape
@@filipe10messiyou even if you're not a Lakers fan you can't say you're being objective without having kobe top-10. His individual accolades and team success both pass bird and other 6-10 in people's top 10 lists. Kobe should be between 4-7 on anybody list if they're being honest with themselves
@@jasperegan3625 The best analysts are objective. Not talking about Skip or Stephen A, but people who know at least 3 plays of basketabll...they put Kobe around the 10th spot. And I'm okay with that. His individual accolades are worst than Duncan's, Hakeem's, Shaq's, Bird's, Wilt's, Jerry West's, Russels', Jordan's, LeBron's, Kareem's, Curry's, Durant's, Magic's...And about team sucess...take away the most dominant big man of all time, from him on his early years, and you would probably be looking at a great player, with two chips - in one of them (2010) he didn't even play that great, and shot badly, specially in game 7 of the finals
@@filipe10messiyou well if we're being objective and actually looking at their accolades then; curry, Durant, bird, magic and shaq all have less all nba teams and/or all defensive teams. So the individual accolades go to kobe their.
Team success still matters, because some of the best teams ever put together (as far as individual talent goes) fail quite often or underperformed. Even then you still have to take it into account, and kobe still has more rings than Ober half of the players listed too.
If I'm just being objective, then kobe has to be higher than 10th. There's no way around it if we just look at the stats, individual awards, and team success in their totality.
If I'm being slightly subjective, then yeah I'd have him between 8 and 10 because theirs players in the top q0 I personally like a bit more than kobe, but I wouldn't be making an objectively honest list then
KD needed the warriors more than the warriors needed him period
Wow! So Solid!!!
Just like Draymond said to KD three seasons ago.
Stephen Curry needs 25 thousand points and a 5th championship with a 2nd Finals MVP, then Curry moves in the top 10!
I hate when they say that steph got Durant cuz he knew he wasn’t getting passed lebron like they got blown out. They lost by 1 frickin shot smh.
It’s hard to rank like this I personally prefer using tiers
T1 : MJ, Lebron, Kareem, Wilt
T2 : Duncan, Magic, Bird
T3 : Kobe, Steph, Shaq
I hate putting Magic and Bird ahead of Kobe and Steph considering that they were both drafted in situations where it was impossible not to win but they have way to many accolades !
i agree about the tiers, personally i have top 3 in any other of kareem, bron and mj, 4-5 interchangable wilt and magic,
6-7-8 is bird, duncan, russel, 9-10 hakeem and shaq, 11th kobe and 12th steph.
but now that steph won, its either gonna be shaq and steph, or hakeem and steph in the 9-10 range
Bad list
Bird joined a Celtics team that had a terrible losing record for the previous two years (32 wins, and then 29 wins). His big name teammates were all past their prime (Dave Cowens and Pete Maravich, perhaps others, played their last year in Bird's first year).
The Celtics won 61 games in Bird's first year and made it to the Eastern Conference Finals. That was not a sure thing at all, and was mostly due to Bird's great play as a rookie, not anything else.
@@youraverage90sguys7 leave the ranking to the experts. You see Chris Broussard has Kobe top 6, but yet you want to have Kobe at 11th. Stop it
Duncan, Kobe, and Shaq are all in the same tier. They are all contemporaries competing against each other and have similar accolades. They are also all above Steph.
Actually this is a nice list. Wilt and Russell played in a way different era so I don't like to mention them in these lists.
My top 10:
1. MJ
2. Bron
3. Kareem
4. Magic
5. Kobe
6. Duncan
7. Shaq
8. Steph
9. Bird
10. Hakeem
Bro it's okay to just say you don't think Wilt and Russell are top 10. Don't cop out like that.
@@im_an_alien196 idk how you can compare guys who played before the 3 point line was created or before the sport was truly considered a profession
1) Lebron
2)Kareem
3) Jordan
4)Magic
5 ) Wilt
6) Russell
7)Kobe
8) Bird
9) Shaq
10) Duncan
@@marlonmiranda4648 I have genuinely never seen a worse list In my life😭😭
@@d0nkeymari0y0shi5 curry has to be top 10 idc what anyone says
There has to be specific criteria as to what we’re rating top 10 by.
..who the Bobby is cutting that guy's hair - his 6-year old!, LOL.