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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
  • this was one of the most fun concepts in smash, SO fun to play
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Комментарии • 825

  • @LilyLambda
    @LilyLambda 5 месяцев назад +4773

    Lily Lambda

  • @Taktaagic
    @Taktaagic 5 месяцев назад +1100

    THIS IS ONE OF THE COOLEST IDEAS EVER AND NOW I REALLY WANT TO FIND OUT HOW LILY EVEN DID THIS

    • @chuckokler7021
      @chuckokler7021 5 месяцев назад +17

      It works kinda like Spirits! It’s super fun.

    • @LilyLambda
      @LilyLambda 5 месяцев назад +121

      @@chuckokler7021 no lmao. Not in the slightest

    • @joelmayer8483
      @joelmayer8483 5 месяцев назад +26

      ​@@chuckokler7021Bro He meant how Lily programmed it not the idea

    • @Veebing
      @Veebing 5 месяцев назад +5

      playing this in world of light would be peak

    • @marcothehunter
      @marcothehunter 5 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@LilyLambda does it work more like the skill tree in World of Light, then ?

  • @Thatguy223-vc4wb
    @Thatguy223-vc4wb 5 месяцев назад +307

    This would actually be a really cool mode to put into smash, as always great concept.

    • @Ai_Ikari
      @Ai_Ikari 5 месяцев назад +6

      That’s what I was thinking, really creative

  • @eroypelli5272
    @eroypelli5272 5 месяцев назад +418

    Bro, we need a part 2. This was so much fun to watch!

    • @CatGamerstudios
      @CatGamerstudios 5 месяцев назад +2

      Yes

    • @threeworldheroes
      @threeworldheroes 4 месяца назад +5

      maybe with king of skill and eevee
      double the chaos

    • @MrAnimeAMVmaker
      @MrAnimeAMVmaker 3 месяца назад

      ​​@@threeworldheroes having either Eevee or Brent try this idea out next would be hype

    • @FLAKE091
      @FLAKE091 3 месяца назад

      Part two

  • @themadkingatmey
    @themadkingatmey 5 месяцев назад +359

    This can't have been Nick's idea as he's surely not enough of a gamer to know what a rogue-like is.

    • @bilalgill6722
      @bilalgill6722 5 месяцев назад +21

      Well the fellas played a few roguelikes together on the party crashers channel so he learned from there lol

    • @yoshidude8345
      @yoshidude8345 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@bilalgill6722what are those videos?

    • @saadalghamdi8138
      @saadalghamdi8138 5 месяцев назад +2

      The boy is a bad noodle ):

    • @bilalgill6722
      @bilalgill6722 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@yoshidude8345 the crab one for sure, I think there may have been another but can't remember

    • @thetruebiggestdon
      @thetruebiggestdon 4 месяца назад +2

      I've gots me a *sneaking* suspicion that a certain painfully plotting purple guy MAAAAAY or may not have been involved...

  • @NewspaperZombie-6942
    @NewspaperZombie-6942 5 месяцев назад +133

    To answer why Vernias got hit when he ledge grabbed, I believe it was due to his less endlag ability which probably affected every move Vernias does.

    • @WalterBaker-yh6zi
      @WalterBaker-yh6zi 3 месяца назад +1

      Nerd?

    • @NewspaperZombie-6942
      @NewspaperZombie-6942 3 месяца назад +12

      @@WalterBaker-yh6zi oh man im a nerd now, maybe its time to pack my bags, im so sad right now, very sad, guys i
      quit youtube goodbye

    • @TheFlame_Hawk
      @TheFlame_Hawk Месяц назад

      Are you and Sunday Edition zombie related?

  • @Springdude11
    @Springdude11 5 месяцев назад +293

    5:05 INCINAROAR Wants to Learn the Move CLOSE COMBAT!
    Shall a Move be Forgotten?

    • @marshall3314
      @marshall3314 5 месяцев назад +30

      "That's not an optimal competitive move for a support incin!"

    • @PlatinumComet
      @PlatinumComet 5 месяцев назад +15

      His defensive stats went down for that one.

    • @Idiota_Profissional
      @Idiota_Profissional 5 месяцев назад

      Run

    • @brandontan2335
      @brandontan2335 5 месяцев назад +9

      All Incineroar needs is Fake Out, Parting Shot, Knock Off and Will O Wisp

    • @neatoburrito9013
      @neatoburrito9013 Месяц назад +2

      @@marshall3314 competitive Pokemon players having fun challenge: lvl IMPOSSIBLE

  • @Schmack2
    @Schmack2 5 месяцев назад +118

    Remember smash run in smash 4? That shit was basically a rougelike and was low key dope as hell. I hope they bring it back for the next game.

    • @dr_rl123
      @dr_rl123 5 месяцев назад +15

      I'd consider it more like City Trial from Kirby Air Ride rather then a proper roguelike
      Missed opportunity to put Smash Run in ultimate tbh

    • @JamesP7
      @JamesP7 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@dr_rl123It is still a Roguelike, just a specific kind.

    • @marshtomp8
      @marshtomp8 5 месяцев назад

      I miss Smash Run so damn much

    • @emperoriro4391
      @emperoriro4391 5 месяцев назад

      One of if not my favorite gamemode in smash

    • @thesusmemegodmilituga1744
      @thesusmemegodmilituga1744 4 месяца назад

      I might have bad news for you buddy. We most likely won’t be getting any new smashy bros anytime soon

  • @NatePhan
    @NatePhan 5 месяцев назад +36

    Those Incineroar buffs were busted, super armor+teleporting. Felt like Vernias couldn't even fight back after that lol

    • @Endershock1678
      @Endershock1678 5 месяцев назад +8

      I think the idea is that the Incineroar armor would have been broken and more or less countered by upgrading the damage tree, which likely would have made every move (except the multi hit aerials and nair) strong enough to break the armor, especially since the third upgrade was shown to be crazy every time, but we never saw what upgrade went beyond increased tilt damage.
      If the damage upgrade was like Aura or double damage or Arsene, or some other crazy late game upgrade, Incineroar would have been cooked.

    • @The76532
      @The76532 3 дня назад

      I thought the teleport one was an evolution of jump
      Air speed -> jump -> teleport

    • @The76532
      @The76532 3 дня назад

      Also
      Parry reflect -> passive armor

  • @real_abender
    @real_abender 5 месяцев назад +15

    6:25 If I was still making Party Crashers CAH decks, this face would have been pure diamond material to add.

  • @badashe1364
    @badashe1364 5 месяцев назад +33

    This is honestly such a cool concept, I’d love to see you do this with the other party crashers, or honestly anyone. This is too cool to be just one video.

  • @Spyvy
    @Spyvy 5 месяцев назад +82

    This idea is -more like a game called Rounds than a roguelike- *similar to a game called Rounds*. In that game, both players pick a power-up at the start and the loser of each round gets to pick another one. Here, though, both players get to pick a power-up regardless of who won or lost (which is also a Rounds mod). Maybe for a follow-up video you can do what Rounds does.
    Edit: Changed the first sentence for clarity.

    • @pyremis
      @pyremis 5 месяцев назад +9

      I get what you mean but rounds is pretty much a roguelike 1v1 (or more with mods) shooter

    • @Spyvy
      @Spyvy 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@pyremis Yeah, true. I guess the problem I have is that "roguelike" can mean like a lot of different things at this point.

    • @TheMagicDragon-mm5dr
      @TheMagicDragon-mm5dr 5 месяцев назад +5

      You start a game, get upgrades over the course of it, whether you win or lose, that's the end of it and you have to start over. It's a roguelike. Rounds is a roguelike. You can describe this as being more like Rounds, but that doesn't mean this isn't a roguelike as you have indicated, that is stupid.

    • @Sainoupenia
      @Sainoupenia 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@TheMagicDragon-mm5dr rougelikes need random generation tho

    • @iconica9516
      @iconica9516 5 месяцев назад +1

      rounds is just a multiplayer rougelite

  • @MaxWeb2599
    @MaxWeb2599 5 месяцев назад +26

    Lily Lambda when Nick gets an idea for a video: business is boomin'!

  • @OrigamiAhsoka
    @OrigamiAhsoka 5 месяцев назад +13

    Lily I absolutely adore the ui you made for these, representing yourself as Anna is so cute too

  • @thevelplays308
    @thevelplays308 5 месяцев назад +80

    Still more balanced than The Binding of Isaac

  • @Beast_the_smash_guy
    @Beast_the_smash_guy 5 месяцев назад +6

    Fun fact: 1:47 is something that can naturally happen due to some weird frame timing mixed with arial drift. I wish I could explain how it works, but I'm not a super technical player in that sense. I just know I love using that into side early b's off the top, though in certain scenarios, nair pffstage works wonders

  • @TGExecutioner
    @TGExecutioner 5 месяцев назад +5

    Awesome video Nicholas

    • @TCNick3
      @TCNick3  5 месяцев назад +2

      YOO thanks so much man! also *Nicolas!!

  • @SkyraSaturn
    @SkyraSaturn 5 месяцев назад +9

    6:25 Dude I have NEVER seen Nick make that face before! I definitely would have made that face if this happened with me and my friends!

    • @michaeldavies4186
      @michaeldavies4186 Месяц назад +1

      I'm surprised it isn't a meme template at this point. It's a perfect combination of shock, confusion and utter disgust that has SO much potential

  • @stormRed
    @stormRed 5 месяцев назад +12

    The idea of combining two of my favorite game genres is so exciting!

  • @Squincy.B
    @Squincy.B 5 месяцев назад +19

    The first time ever recorded of Nick being calm was captured for this intro.

  • @hyphe1337
    @hyphe1337 5 месяцев назад +10

    This is so sick what, Lily Lambda does such a good job with these!

  • @lakeside5771
    @lakeside5771 5 месяцев назад +6

    The castlevania symphony of the night music on the shop was appreciated and noticed! Good job editor!

  • @OdyOkami
    @OdyOkami 5 месяцев назад +2

    This is actually so awesome, I’d love to see more of this, thanks Lily Lambda for making this possible!

  • @hopeburnett8313
    @hopeburnett8313 5 месяцев назад +1

    Such a cool concept! I'm so curious what the unexplored route could be! Such an awesome mod!

  • @adrianmerasanz2625
    @adrianmerasanz2625 5 месяцев назад +17

    I love roguelikes so this was an instant click as soon as i Saw it appear

  • @adamkampen
    @adamkampen 5 месяцев назад +4

    0:09 wow I haven't thought about the Punch the Computer flash game in years but that fist brought back memories in a flasg

  • @Syl700
    @Syl700 5 месяцев назад +3

    Give Lily extra for this, this is such a cool idea and so well made and WE NEED MORE

  • @DisbeBobby
    @DisbeBobby 5 месяцев назад +5

    3:01 Nick... Nick... No the fuck it isn't.

  • @benwolfe9858
    @benwolfe9858 5 месяцев назад +4

    6:25 His fucking face killed me!

  • @LeonGroff2777
    @LeonGroff2777 5 месяцев назад +1

    Man, I love the music choices for your videos. Library music from SoTN for your upgrades? SMRPG battle music? Amazing. This video was so fun, I hope you decide to do another, this was ridiculous in the best way possible.

  • @nintendonat353
    @nintendonat353 5 месяцев назад +3

    Please make a second episode, this concept is fire! Really good work lily lambda :)

  • @benday5945
    @benday5945 5 месяцев назад +2

    me at 13:10 when Lá Peri by Dukas is played - thank you whoever put that in :)

  • @Vernias
    @Vernias 5 месяцев назад +82

    super armor cringe

  • @mydudethebrother
    @mydudethebrother 5 месяцев назад +2

    Tcnick3 you have truly upgraded your editing it has gotten so much better

  • @V1per-on1bm
    @V1per-on1bm 5 месяцев назад +2

    This was so much fun to watch! I would love to see another one like this! Shout out to the amazing Lily Lambda for the amzing mod!

  • @zen524
    @zen524 5 месяцев назад +3

    MY FAVORITE GENRES COMBINED!
    I really hope Lily manages to publish this so i can play it myself!

  • @Ender41948
    @Ender41948 5 месяцев назад +5

    I'm gonna need this to be a series with like, the whole cast.

  • @boodude57
    @boodude57 5 месяцев назад +1

    This is genuinely one of the coolest ideas ever put to smash. You should do more of these

  • @zernek9199
    @zernek9199 2 месяца назад +1

    This is an awesome mod
    Also Vernias calling the Hadouken input Shoryuken was very funny

  • @TieTheFox
    @TieTheFox 5 месяцев назад +2

    This was such a fun concept omg PLEASE make more

  • @ProtoDon-ib9su
    @ProtoDon-ib9su 5 месяцев назад +2

    Link: Try’s everything to kill Incineroar
    Incineroar: “Goodnight girl 😎”

  • @ruefan12
    @ruefan12 5 месяцев назад +1

    Super awesome concept for a video, honestly hope to see a couple other characters. Make sure you give Lily tons of love for the awesome work.

  • @username-ue7mp
    @username-ue7mp 6 часов назад

    All your abilities give you a high chance to make a god-like recovery.

  • @mathiasRomero-zo3iz
    @mathiasRomero-zo3iz 5 месяцев назад +2

    Omg I’d love it so much to see more of this, pls part 2!

  • @Super64Legend
    @Super64Legend 5 месяцев назад +35

    Not my dumb ah thinking that he was referring to Rogue One 💀

  • @unnameduser6472
    @unnameduser6472 5 месяцев назад +1

    We need another one of these, but with more wacky stuff/stats and skills. Choose before hand who you'll play of course, but I see this being a interesting series, hopefully.

  • @gabrieljohnson6435
    @gabrieljohnson6435 5 месяцев назад +1

    This is one of the best ideas I’ve ever seen, keep up the good work

  • @RedTHedge
    @RedTHedge 5 месяцев назад +6

    As usual, Nick is the most skilled player.

  • @Spearmint4
    @Spearmint4 5 месяцев назад +31

    I’m a good noodle! I’m a good noodle!! (Happy April fools.)

  • @ItsCenrryTH
    @ItsCenrryTH 5 месяцев назад +2

    _MA! MA!_
    _THERE'S A WEIRD CAT OVER THE'!_
    *_MA!_* _THE CAT'S BEATING ME UP!_ *_IT CAN TELEPORT MA!_*

  • @StarBoy0204
    @StarBoy0204 5 месяцев назад

    5:34 Lily made a menace with Incinaroar & it’s so funny I love it

  • @tinavanwey1308
    @tinavanwey1308 5 месяцев назад +2

    Literally the coolest mod I’ve ever seen, Lily is actually on another level

  • @azj1467
    @azj1467 5 месяцев назад +1

    This was awesome, would love to see this again with different characters

  • @javathehunt790
    @javathehunt790 5 месяцев назад +2

    More of this please
    Best idea ever

  • @headrewriter3681
    @headrewriter3681 5 месяцев назад +5

    I heard x-factor and immediately thought of umvc3

  • @pyromaniac000000
    @pyromaniac000000 5 месяцев назад +1

    Crazy how much of a nerf the teleport power was, up until you got super armor, then it became actually cracked!

  • @wickedlyoddella7391
    @wickedlyoddella7391 5 месяцев назад +1

    We need this to be a series. This was one of your best videos, Nick

  • @shadowhenry7680
    @shadowhenry7680 Месяц назад

    6:25 bro's face was like: Wut du HAAAAAAAIL OH MA GAD, noo wayayaaaay!

  • @thx4chrckingin
    @thx4chrckingin 5 месяцев назад

    Aside from the super armor being literally unbeatable, this was a super cool idea! I hope to see more soon!

  • @GalaxiaKnightX
    @GalaxiaKnightX 5 месяцев назад

    You know this concept here can be amazing with a lot more options. There's tons of potential here. Like one of them can be that your character just gets super mushroomed and it can stack. But then again having to do that with all the characters would be very tough to do.

  • @hyper_pyro
    @hyper_pyro 5 месяцев назад

    8:46 Stormy Saxophone 5 really is one hell of a banger (as seen here)

  • @WhimsicalLittledawg
    @WhimsicalLittledawg 5 месяцев назад +2

    Wow, that was [VERY GOOD AND ENTERTAINING]
    WHY

  • @CEGaming3
    @CEGaming3 5 месяцев назад

    4:40 As a smash bros player having an extra jump is the actual most gracious thing ever

  • @Tenshi-j1e
    @Tenshi-j1e 5 месяцев назад +1

    Bro super cool video, every video IS better than the last

  • @silverrath
    @silverrath 5 месяцев назад

    This looks so much fun to play with lmao
    Imagine the war crimes you could commit with certain characters. Sora with stronger aerials and a third jump would go crazy. Throw in a functional up taunt for good measure.

  • @michaeldiefenbach1506
    @michaeldiefenbach1506 5 месяцев назад +2

    Wow. Im excited for this video.
    Edit: This was a great video. I would love to play with this incineroar lol

  • @shyguy-te5bx
    @shyguy-te5bx 5 месяцев назад +1

    Pls do a part two with little mac, I NEED to see him get buffed.
    Imagine the super armor on Incine over Mac, that shit would be insane

  • @boftungol9423
    @boftungol9423 5 месяцев назад +2

    This is by far my favourite mod, would absolutely love to see more of it!

  • @BansheeBooVT
    @BansheeBooVT Месяц назад +1

    All these upgrades on Ganondorf would actually make him a viable character. Lily is the GOAT ❤️❤️

  • @ninjiumz6849
    @ninjiumz6849 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great video Nick, and to Lily, awesome mod!

  • @zachm56gaming30
    @zachm56gaming30 2 месяца назад

    Bro, the fire emblem awakening shop with LILY was the greatest thing ever

  • @erich_ika
    @erich_ika 5 месяцев назад +1

    holy... this mod... Lily better be getting a massive bag

  • @gagejoseph91
    @gagejoseph91 5 месяцев назад

    1:03 You can't just hit me with that SotN music outta nowhere! I'M INTERESTED IN THIS!

  • @meepmop1535
    @meepmop1535 5 месяцев назад

    That Revenge to Alolan Whip activated my neuron's

  • @Springdude11
    @Springdude11 5 месяцев назад +2

    That acrually sounds pretty dope

  • @guidokawajiri6383
    @guidokawajiri6383 3 месяца назад +1

    Do this with da whole of the party crashers, i wanna see eevee bash brent for going full optimization on his K. Rool

  • @HerMajestyVelvet
    @HerMajestyVelvet 5 месяцев назад +1

    I literally saw this as I was playing Pokerouge I couldn’t be happier
    (If you couldn’t tell rougelike is my favorite game genre)

  • @UmbrotheUmbreon
    @UmbrotheUmbreon 5 месяцев назад

    Nick is the fucking GOAT! This was not only an awesome idea but an amazing video to watch. I'd be hella down to see another of these with Brent and Sophist.

  • @grimmyreaper3790
    @grimmyreaper3790 5 месяцев назад

    I love how Nick got so carried near the end its honestly hilarious but it was deserved as he was losing until he got 1 op upgrade to carry him just like a real roguelike

  • @Frilleon
    @Frilleon 5 месяцев назад

    You need to make another one of these this was awesome

  • @adonaiguzman
    @adonaiguzman 5 месяцев назад

    I haven’t watched a TCNick video in so long and the editing has gotten so much better

  • @jasomega2446
    @jasomega2446 5 месяцев назад +1

    Cool Concept!

  • @JareBear1
    @JareBear1 5 месяцев назад +1

    I sort of want to see this as a playable mod. The chaos this could bring with my friends

  • @dabluepittoo-aqua4213
    @dabluepittoo-aqua4213 5 месяцев назад +5

    TCNick3 really putting the C in Carried because bro was DOMINATING through all that heavy armour.

  • @kirbyx2573
    @kirbyx2573 5 месяцев назад +1

    And now Nick put a rouge like in smash?! Whats this dude gonna cook up next? Either way, I am so onboard, this sounds like an absolute blast!

  • @DyxoXinoro
    @DyxoXinoro 5 месяцев назад

    I was just saying this should be a thing in the next smash game to a friend last week. Like, I wrote a five page essay about how it might even work and its basically the same as what you've got going on here.

  • @cloudmonkey6952
    @cloudmonkey6952 5 месяцев назад

    Once Nick got super armor, Vernias should’ve just gone with the damage buffs to even stand a chance.

  • @kingwashington4044
    @kingwashington4044 5 месяцев назад +2

    Nick I just got to say one thing
    You progressively got more handsome I don't know how I don't know what voodoo magic you did or you sold your soul to Illuminati but you have looked a lot more handsome over the year since I've been watching party crashes

  • @diabeticman2194
    @diabeticman2194 5 месяцев назад

    Smash roguelike looks like a lot of fun, Incineroar looked busted with his upgradable abilities

  • @TheScribeScribe
    @TheScribeScribe 5 месяцев назад

    If more abilities, both universal and unique character abilities and effects are added this could be its own series.

  • @user-lv5xb5ug3q
    @user-lv5xb5ug3q 5 месяцев назад

    "Negative 10 frames of end lag on everything"
    Imagine if he was playing Sheik when he got that

  • @sethbarley3884
    @sethbarley3884 Месяц назад

    This was great. I would love to see another mod like this.

  • @Taygon45
    @Taygon45 5 месяцев назад +1

    I gotta bring up the use of Gravity Rish music during the 3rd fight. It's a great OST. To give this comment a point, I wanna see a sequil to this vid

  • @loh4506
    @loh4506 5 месяцев назад

    ı feel like this could become a series and it should be i loved it

  • @timrc417
    @timrc417 5 месяцев назад

    This would make for a sick series ngl. The possibilities feel so endless

  • @tax1283
    @tax1283 5 месяцев назад

    This is insanely cool, and the FEA Anna shop for Lily? It's a mastahpeace

  • @user-vl9qi3gh1r
    @user-vl9qi3gh1r 5 месяцев назад +2

    Make It a series with vernias, that' be hype

    • @LeftHook-em6rv
      @LeftHook-em6rv 5 месяцев назад

      We do need more content with them, this is true

  • @cadenseale3157
    @cadenseale3157 5 месяцев назад

    This was such a cool idea. I pray you do a part 2 but with different characters.

  • @willhorton7624
    @willhorton7624 5 месяцев назад

    Alright this is amazing. Please make part 2!

  • @cocciclaque9084
    @cocciclaque9084 5 месяцев назад

    What happened at the end when vernias was in ledgehang and got spiked;
    In melee, ledge intangibility is not applied during ledgehant, it's a flag placed on the player with a timer (allowing invincible ledge-options and a lot of badonkers thing)
    In ult, ledgehang is technically a move, and every move is -10f (due to Xfactor).
    Problem is, frames are not explicitelly written for animations of move, they're calculated by animation speed.
    Lily probably applied -10f by accelerating animations by a certain math formula depending on endlag etc afterr the last hitbox was active.
    But ledgehang doesn't have a hitbox, so the macro used to write the code for the -10f sped the whole ledgehang anim speed+ "frame data" by a LOT, rendering the state intangible for like 4 frames max.
    Of course, this is purely speculation as I have no idea how Lily ACTUALLY wrote this mod, but this is the only explanation I can find (since it's unheard off to apply frame data changes to every moves automatically)
    Hope this helped explain for the people who were curious

    • @LilyLambda
      @LilyLambda Месяц назад

      While ledgehang is technically a move in ultimate and invincibility frames are not explicitly defined, they’re placed based on calculations done in main and animation speed has no effect.
      What I did to implement -10f is use two functions available in base game- one that outputs the final frame of the current animation, and one that outputs the current frame of it. The code then checks if the current frame is within 10 from the final frame, and if so, grants the player the ability to cancel the move with anything.
      I’m not entirely sure why Vern didn’t have intangibility. My best guess is that he accidentally cancelled the ledgehang early by pressing something within a specific window, and by doing so ended the cliffhang status and therefore his intangibility, but *not* the motion.