Top 10 Running Shoes of 2023
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2024
- The year is coming to an end and it is time to talk about my favorite running shoes of 2023.
0:00 Intro
0:12 Defining the model year?
0:56 Number 10
1:52 Number 9
3:00 Number 8
3:57 Number 7
5:17 Number 6
6:11 Number 5
7:10 Number 4
8:22 Number 3
9:13 Number 2
10:49 Number 1
13:07 Looking forward to 2024
14:07 Outro
My Reviews of the shoes featured in this video (in reverse chronological posting order);
Nnormal Kjerag - Less is more • Nnormal Kjerag - Less ...
Nike Vomero 17 - Is it still relevant in 2023? • Nike Vomero 17 - Is it...
Asics Magic Speed 3 - The best Zoom Fly Nike never made. • Asics Magic Speed 3 - ...
Nike Pegasus 40 after 300 miles - Why you still need a “boring” daily trainer • Nike Pegasus 40 after ...
Asics Superblast - Rethinking the “super shoe” • Asics Superblast - Ret...
Nike Vaporfly 3 at 50 miles • Nike Vaporfly 3 at 50 ...
Adidas Takumi Sen 9 final impressions & thoughts on the Takumi Sen 10 • Adidas Takumi Sen 9 fi...
Adidas Adios 8 - First impressions • Adidas Adios 8 - First...
Adidas Adios Pro 3 - An outstanding race shoe nearly ruined by a dreadful upper • Adidas Adios Pro 3 - A...
Disclosures: No one is paying me to make this video and no one has any editorial control over the contents of this video. Everything I cover in this video is my own opinion and experience.
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statement of the greatness of the superblast is the fact that it's been out for a year and it's never been discounted anywhere
I got mine for 30% off mid this year
@@m.ch4rmaland3r10 that's a very good price and very big luck you've struck there
And rarely discounted, until recently. I think the popularity of the SB caught Asics by surprise…
@@m.ch4rmaland3r10 same. But you can’t find a pair in popular sizes for love nor money at the moment in Australia. I’m 800kms in mine now, and they still feel great.
Thanks for your thoughtful reviews. Have a great holiday season.
Happy holidays to you and yours as well. Thank you for the support! 🤙🏻
Great Review Sagasu - the last months you led me back to the shoe design principles of less is more. And the benefit for me has been the discovery of the Adios 8 - i agree fantastic daily trainer. And the Super Blast is also my Shoe of the year. Seems a contradictory statement - but i think i over trained in plated super shoes the last 12 months and suffered as a result - deconditioning of the quads. And the attendant knee issues.
The SB is a good “middle shoe” coming from plated shoe overuse. Familiar for the legs but different enough it retrains them. Outstanding shoe.
I’m glad you found the A8… it’s a social one that was massively overlooked in 2023.
Thanks again for your insights.. I agree with VF3
I know not everyone got on with it in 2023...but those of us who did love it for sure.
thanks for your really great content. i appreciate the honest and considered takes - and that this list IS different from many others out there. i feel many reviewers today get lost in hype.
I appreciate the kind words. I try to be as authentic as I can be and cover what interests me and what I like to run in, regardless of it being popular or not.
That is something I’ll always do on this channel.
Really good sellection, my top 5
1. Kjerag - short trail
2. Tomir - long trail
3. Adiós Pro 3 - long road
4, Takumi sense 9 - short road
5. Vaporfly 3 - long road
Quite a list. Replace the TS9 with the Adios 8 and I could see myself making a very similar list. I’m excited for the Tomir 2 as well.
Great list
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My top 5 (yes there are aome old models in there):
Superblast
Alphafly v1
Deviate Nitro 2
Endorphin Edge
Speedgoat EVO
Can't believe the Pegasus was in that list. 😄
ugh I wish Hoka would bring back the Speedgoat EVO
The Pegasus IS the shoe all other shoes are judged against. I adore the Pegasus.
Oddly, the last Speedgoat I ran in was an Evo… I’ll be covering the 6…
I have the peg40 and I hated it once I got a better shoe. I couldnt believe its in the list and not the boston 12.
@@harry1583 I’m a big fan of the Pegasus, always have been. It’s one of the most important shoes out there. I also used to be a fan of the Boston series too… the Boston 9 is still my favorite running shoe of all time… but I’m very uninterested in the direction Adidas has taken that series. The B12 is better than the B10/11 but, as I said in the video… the AP3 is a better long run and tempo shoe…. And the A8 is a better workout and interval shoe + daily run shoe…. And if I want a true daily trainer from Adidas… I’m going to go for the Adizero SL as it is just foam and has no rods or stiffening agent (which I don’t want to run in daily).
I have to confess, the last Peg I wore was in the 80's for casual wear. 😄 But 4 out of 5 ShoeTubers are not that enthusiastic about them. Lack of innovation and weight is usually the complaint. I was expecting something big for the 40.
Tekumi sen is a favourite of mine. I found it was harsh at the start but it has certainly mellow out now after 100ish km. Now at 100mi it is buttery smooth for me. But magic speed 3 is my favourite speed/ /tempo/racing shoe, so under rates. I have clocked so much km in it.
Ultrafly I believe is a misunderstood shoe i feel. So many reviewers are not ultra trail runner. There is a big difference to even other trail races let alone road.
Superblast is pretty good, i think it is great it is great at marathon effort for me but thats it. But it is a tall bloke and i am trying not to run many max stack shoe.
Trailrock245, they dont make it anymore, is my go to minimalist trail shoe, which i have tried to use sparingly. Material used is so durable but not the glue 😅.
AF1 is my best shoe, i dont have issue like many complained about. It does everything for me slow to workout to race on the road.
Slab pulsar is the best road and trail shoe. It is pretty good on the road, you can even do a descent 5k but also nimble for the trail. Just did a HM on sunday with 800m elevations, some technical terrain, river crossing...etc and it took it. Just dont take it on rain day in the trails.
The midsole feel of the TS9 has always been good to me. It’s more the extreme fit they is harsh… plus the shoe overall is harsh on the feet in legs… but it feels great when you hit it just right with good form.
I agree about the Ultrafly. I’m going to talk about that fact in my review coming up.
My one problem with the SB is the max stack. I don’t think the shoe needs all of that foam. I’d love to see a 39/31@8mm drop SB2… the shoe would loose even more weight and I doubt any performance.
@SagasuRunning I agree if they lower the stack similar to tekumi, that would be interesting.
Ultrafly has a specific market. With the low lug depth and focus on ultra it is targeting specific trail and races. I don't think it is the best ultra shoe, but it was designed and tested for a need like tekumi. When you run 50-70km plus let along 100mi, the need is different. Add in trail terrain, it is quite different. Running a 30km or less and saying it is a brick doesn't sum it up, in my opinion.
@@m.ch4rmaland3r10 I fully agree. The Ultrafly is not the best trail shoe. But it’s a very good shoe designed for what Nike intended it for… so yes, very niche like the Takumi Sen 9… maybe more so.
A lower stack Superblast would be a thing of beauty for training and some racing….
I wish I could get on with the Vaporfly 3 but I just couldn’t. You covered the outsole in one of my shoes destructing at the rear and gave a very convincing explanation of why that might be. The retailer replaced the shoes and it happened again on my second pair after just 2 uses (a 10k and a marathon). I have now replaced them again but this time I got the Hoka Rocket X2.
I hope the Nike fixes the outsole tread pattern in the VF4.
I remember. Wow, you did it again. That’s crazy. Our personal biomechanics can be total deal breakers for some shoes it seems.
At this point I can’t see how Nike doesn’t address that terraced design in the VF4. That being said I’m unsure if the VF4 will be just an upper swap or a completely new shoe. Nike seems to be more to complete redesigns after 16-18 months for the Alphafly and (likely) the Vaporfly on alternating cycles.
How is the Hoka holding up for you?
@@SagasuRunning I think Nike has no choice but to change the outsole - I think the returns will be killing their profit margins!
I haven’t run in the Hoka’s yet, but once I do I’ll be sure to let you know.
@@josephgonzalez_ Given Nike’s recent earnings… it seems like profit margins are something they need to refocus on! I bet it’s hurting the running program.
I’ll be curious how you get on with the Hokas for sure!
Good to hear your thoughts. As you say these things partly depend on what you have and partly what you like. For instance, I have seen Boston 12 top a similar list. I ran 12 miles today in them today and thought well if it is truly the best 2023 offered it was a terrible year for shoes. To me it is more of a cheap Adios Pro 3 with inferior foam that makes it rather stiff and inflexible and a lot heavier. Then I see ASICS shoes get very high for you but the Superblast was never made in my size and the Magic Speed 3 has been "greyed out" everytime I look. Thinking about I think, for me, it wasn't a great year for shoes. I enjoyed the Vaporfly 3 once had pulled in the laces an awful lot. The upper might be great for some but for me, out of the box, way too much excess material. Prime X2 Strung and Ultrafly undoutedly bricks of the year for me. Can't really decide which was worse. Perhaps the Endorphin Elite surprised me the most. I initially did not get it as so expensive but glad I did although I still prefer the Vaporfly 3 given a choice. Rocket X2 is another "decent" offering but kind of feel it got more acclaim for being a good Hoka rather than a good shoe full stop. That is kind of the case with the Boston 12 given it courted more favour than the 10 and 11. Not sure these days how many actually remember the 1 to 9. At least the Adios 8 gives us that sort of feeling. Like you though I rather had stopped using it. Might get it out again.
As I said in the video… as long as the AP3 and A8 exist… I have no need for the B12. Even with the horrid upper the AP3 is my preferred long run or long tempo shoe. Even if I loved the B12… I still don’t know why I’d not reach for the AP3. Plus the AP3 is so durable. I’m a big advocate of training in what you plan to race. The AP3 and LSP are definitely durable enough to do it all.
I know you disliked the Ultrafly… but it’s a very purpose built shoe for a very specific purpose… and it does that exceptionally well. I’ll have my general impressions video out the week.
The other issue with the B12… is that I remember the B9…. And it’s still my favorite running shoe of all time. I can’t forgive Adidas for what they did to that shoe!
The A8 does give me B9 feel… but the Nnormal Kjerag really nails it. I did alot of trial running in the B9 as well and always found it capable there too. The Kjerag has a very similar feel on trail and road for me. It’s a bit uncanny.
I do still see B9 around, in Adidas stores,here in Taiwan. Usually the white BAA colorway, oddly. If I ever find them in my size I will definitely buy a pair and do a retro review. I miss that shoe so.
@@SagasuRunning yeah I have done a fair amount of "easyish" running in the AP3 and prefer it to the B12 for sure. I just think I need to see what everybody "sees" in the B12 but yet to! Ultrafly I guess does not scale well to a UK 13 and a narrow footed one at that and TBH a shoe that was really designed for runable 100 mile ultra trail races is probably just as useless to me as track spikes are for you. I just can't think I can "ensure" that shoe for too long - just so heavy and wide. I could see in your size would be somewhat more compelling. Not sure what I would use for that sort of event though. The Nnormal one looks more like it. I do see they do a UK 13 but again rather niche for me and just got interest in ultra trail races if being really honest. I did "sort of" like the adidas Speed Ultra as very like the "old" Bostons but now may feel a bit firm. Kind of depends on the terrain though. Sadly the B9 never came in a UK 13.5 and my days of "sqeezing" into shoes are gone I feel. A8 will have to do there for sure.
@@TimGrose Ya the UF is a shoe most people have no use for, honestly. Even the Ultra community is a bit divided on the use for it. But as a shoe to race western states… it’s perfection. But very few of us are doing that.
I’d be curious about your thoughts in the Kjerag. I remember you covered the Pulsar back after SJD’s Pikes Peak win. The Kjerag is way less niche, and given that you like racing flats of old and have some time in the Pulsar… your perspective would be interesting.
The Kjerag runs long as well… so I bet you might even be able to go down from the 13… the width isn’t as narrow as a s/lab shoe… I’d say it’s somewhere between the Takumi Sen 9 and a classic Adidas racing flat fit. It actually also reminds me of the Boston 9 in how it fits (I thought it’s much more flexible).
I think Tim is going to have a challenge to squeeze into the Kjerag at the largest size on offer. 30.5cm which they are calling a “UK 13”. But I went a half size down to “US 12.5” and while I can run in them they are at least a half size short.
I normally would wear a 31cm shoe in most brands. I think the 30.5cm is my size.
Tim may be succeed because he has a very narrow foot but I suspect the largest Kjerag is going to be a tight squeeze.
@brianreiter5572 great info for Tim! Thank you.
Would love to see your take on the brooks ghost max..
Any suggestions for someone looking for long, easy run shoe for a forefoot striker to save my calves which is neither too hard nor too soft. Thanks
Nothing completely comes to mind without knowing more about your running… but as a forefoot striker something with ample toe rocker will help take pressure off of your calves a bit.
I may cover a Brooks (or two) in 2024… for the first time in forever… I’m intrigued by some of what they are putting out there.
Found peg 40 very harsh. Takumi sen 9 in comparison for me is buttery smooth fast and comfortable. One of the best shoes I’ve ever owned. Considering for the marathon!
We have opposite experiences. It’s interesting how running shoes can differ on the foot from person to person.
I like the TS9 but the narrow race fit is extreme (I don’t even have wide feet and rarely have issue with narrow shoes, especially traditional Adidas lasts). Also, anything over 10-12k in the shoe I start to feel the rods , first in the right foot then in both. Definitely not a marathon shoe for me at all.
Peg 40, big call that. You should try the Puma Velocity Nitro 2 if you havent. Similar but far better in every aspect. My opinion only of course :-)
I’m going to try to get the VN3 in 2024. Puma is hard to find here in Taiwan, at least their performance models, but I’ll keep a lookout.
I’m a big fan of the Peg… it will be hard to beat for me.
I have both and I don’t like the VN2 at all. Which is a shame, cause I was super excited to try it following so much appraisal from people and shoetubers alike.
I swear it’s not a brand thing, I think Puma has always been super cool before they got into the running market. The deviate nitro 2 works great for some stuff and it’s amazing, but as for the VN2, I found it clunky, super slow and horrible-looking (which is obviously unimportant). And since I live in a scorching hot shithole, it becomes simply unusable in spring and summer, it must get like 120 degrees inside when I run on hot asphalt.
I must make a honorable mention for the grip, though, which is unmatched in my experience.
Happy running!
These things are rather indivdual. I tried the Puma Velocity Nitro 2. Not bad out of the box but even after one run I could feel my toes against the road and by 100 miles felt it had gone "flat" all round so gave up on it. Peg 39 and 40 less "exciting" but by miles run must have liked them both an awful lot more.
@@TimGrose yeah fair enough. I sold my peg 39's after a few runs. Just felt so lifeless and dull to me. But as you say, everyone's experience is different
@@TimGrose You’re absolutely right. So right that what I like about the pegs is precisely the fact that they are dull, not too cushioned or bouncy and “don’t do much for my runs,” as Ben Parkes said (and he’s totally right), That’s exactly what I look out for in daily trainers, something that requires me to focus on form, doesn’t make me faster and takes a heavy toll on my feet and leg muscles. This may sound weird, but I don’t typically want to have fun, I don’t want to feel excited, I don’t want help going faster. Obviously being 170 pounds and never having suffered an injury in 12 years help me stay minimalistic, and maybe the fact that I ran my first 10 HMs on Nike Flex RNs, which I bought for 20 bucks back then. And then again, for race days, I have the Vaporflies, which are obviously an entirely different experience.
How about for the slow pace runners like myself is The VF3 forgiving? How's the stability?
Compared to previous VFs the VF3 is. However… it’s still a VF and aggressive and not the most stable show out there. I’ve run in them forever… so I no longer notice. But I can see where they would feel extreme if you have never run in them before.
Hey Chris, do you think I should wait on the Adios 9 or go with the 8? (Or buy both 😂)
Honestly…. Buy both. They are completely different shoes. Plus the A9 won’t be out for at least another 6 months I believe.
Lots of deals out there on the A8 too.
@@SagasuRunning goooood. Thanks!
Enjoy them!
@@SagasuRunning I’ll give my thoughts when I’ll have a couple of runs in them ✌️👟
@felixmilot990 please do! I’ll be very curious how you get on with the A8.
I didn’t get to try as many shoes as I’d prefer in 2023, but here are my top 3 standouts:
1. Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro
2. Nike Vaporfly 3
3. Adidas Adios Pro 3
Honorable mentions: Superblast, alphafly 2
That Mizuno is an interesting shoe. I may try to find one. Mizuno is a popular brand here in Taiwan… but it is all golf, baseball or badminton… I rarely see running stuff anywhere. I’ll keep an eye out though.
@@SagasuRunning the Mizuno shoe made me believe that another huge step in these next few years will be that midsole geometry and dialing it down for very specific foot strikes. Looks like V2 is even more aggressive in its geometry as well. Idk if they ship to Taiwan but Start Fitness UK has the V1 for a good price at least before S&T
@@kalvin. Fully agree with this obesevration.
I’ll keep an eye for Mizuno running here in Taiwan… but I’ll likely find them when I’m in the US.
@@SagasuRunning also keep a lookout for Saucony Sinister. Since you like low stack shoes, that’s 19/25mm and like 5 oz with full PwrrunPB and no plate.
Hell yeah stop the Pegasus hate.
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Hahaha the fave shoes of college runners and similar fanboys
@@sschwen8050 I’d expand the lens there. It’s a favorite of many more runners because it works, is durable, versatile and doesn’t need to constantly remind you of all the tech underfoot.
Running needs more shoes like the Peg.
I ran in them starting in 1986 as a college runner and they gave us a new pair every season (obviously it was a Nike school). I still don’t really see anyone else wearing them in the US except for college runners, but maybe in other countries they have a different following. Not a slight, just telling you what I’ve seen in my last 40+ years as a runner at all levels!
@@sschwen8050 Odd… no matter where I travel in the world the primary non racing Nike shoe I see on people’s feet, all ages, are Pegs. Granted I do see less Nike shoes on average runners lately…. It’s most On or Hoka now. But those in Nike are mostly in some model of a Pegasus… then maybe older Infinity Runs (not the new 4).
As someone who can run comfortably over 10k in Vivobarefoot, what shoes would you recommend for a marathon for me?
It really depends. What’s your time goal? What’s your longest run in Vivos, 10k? Do you run in any other shoes?
Generally speaking…. Take a look at Topo Athletic. They have a wider toe box you’ll be comfortable with but modern foams and geometries. It’s likely your best place to start.
Hmm... would the Adios Pro 3 be a good speed/racing companion to the Peg 39/Triumph 20, despite its dismal upper?
If it fits your foot sure, it’s a great ride and midsole. Though I’d pair a Vaporfly 3 with a Peg, they have a much more similar feel.
I hadn't even considered the Vaporfly 3, mostly because it's difficult to get my hands on them. They cost almost twice as much as the Pro 3. Still worth it? @@SagasuRunning
@OdanUrr87 Then yes, the AP3 is a good racer… it would be my next choice, even with the upper. Hopefully it fits your foot. Good luck.
Which shoe (in the market rn) has the longest ground contact time do you think ?
So you mean outside durability?
@@SagasuRunning i mean I'd love to know which shoe you feel in your experience turns over your feet the longest hence a long ground contact time, in my current collection i would say the evoride speed with 5mm drop + a rocker
I’m not sure I can answer that. It’s something I try to avoid. I want the shortest ground contact time I can get and if I show feels bulky or slow under foot I generally don’t run in it again.
My top 5 although not really 2023 shoes as haven't found no better from my list this year in no particular order:
Speed 3
Prime X Strung 1
Vaporfly 3
Triumph 20
Endorphin Pro 3
Absolute bangers, love 'em to bits 🤙🏿
I agree on the VF3 for sure… we have very different taste though. That’s what great about running right now. So much choice.
I’ll be covering updates to a few of your shoes this year. Stay tuned. 🤙🏻
Adios Pro with strung upper incoming?
I think it’s unlikely, at least for the primary release version, maybe a special edition version only. The strung upper is an experiment for Adidas and not a serious race upper. Also Adidas has gone another direction with ultra lightweight material on the Evo 1.
But, what I do think we could see is the strung fibers being strategically used to reinforce the ultra lightweight material used on the Evo 1…. For a larger and more durable consumer release of the Evo or possibly on the AP4 or AP5.
That’s the real value of strung technology. Not as a full upper.
Interesting thoughts. I love the strung upper on the Prime X1 and I’d love to try it or some version of it on the Adios Pro.
@@sschwen8050 If they ever make a “special version” you’ll likely see it. It’s a tech flex for them and looks premium…
But the upper on the Evo 1 is a huge step in a better direction for the brand. A lighter upper that is more compliant on the foot is something they have needed for years.
Combining the two techs… or using lighter fibers on a strung upper may be what we see.
Any tips for Kjerag sizing?
I'm hesitating because of it.
The recommendation of a half size down from your normal size was spot on for me, especially for trail running. If it was a road racing flat, I would have gone a full size down.
I talk more about the fit and sizing in my Kjerag review… look for the chapter at the end that covers it.
@@SagasuRunning Thanks, I see the sizing is in 2/3 sizes (EU) so I assume that's how much I will have to go down. I didn't realize you did a Kjerag review, I'll check it out. Right now Kiger 9s are my favourite shoe and probably similar to the Kjerags, but looking forward to the lighter weight.
@@RowOfMushyTiT The Kiger 9 are much heavier, much stiffer and much more foam under foot. The lugs are also much deeper on the Kiger 9.
I very much prefer the feel of the Kjerag on the foot and to run in.
@@SagasuRunning Sounds promising. Kigers I love as they are cheap and very durable as a training shoe. They run very naturally, but react foam does need about 50k to break in otherwise they are stiff. I just meant they appeal to a similar type of demographic with the Kiger being a great trainer to pair with the Kjerag as a lighter faster race shoe.
@@RowOfMushyTiT Agree. The Kiger has always been the Nike Trial race shoe or agile trainer. The Ultrafly and Zegama basically take the race duties and the Wildhorse is the better all rounder people reach for. It’s left the Kiger with a bit of an identity crisis for sure.
The Kiger is Nike Trail’s “lightest” and “most agile” shoe.
I have a pair of Kiger 9s that are fine… but I find myself rarely reaching for them.
It's notable that your list is limited to Nike, Adidas, and Asics. Is that due to availability or preference?
I'd love to see your take on the Saucony and Mizuno lineups.
Mostly preference… but I’ll be expanding brands I cover in 2024. A Saucony (or two) is definitely on the list. I’ll keep an eye on Mizuno in 2024, but currently nothing looks interesting. I’ll be covering others as well…. Stay tuned.
SHOE!
They sure are.
Workout shoe: Adios 8
Daily trainer: Tracksmith Eliot
Trail shoe: NNormal Kjerag
I’m VERY tempted by the TS Eliot (ha, I just saw that as well, I wonder if Tracksmith is playing on the author T.S. Eliot, who was from a very prominent Boston family) lately. I had it in hand while in NYC last month and it was very different than what I expected.
Tell me your thoughts on it. Why do you like it?
It is a no-no sense moderate stack, inherently stable, firm midsole with a nice geometry similar to a Pegasus. Good manners for daily training and long runs. I think the midsole is a supercritical EVA but certainly firmer than typical. The peba is actually thicker than typical sock liner which mostly just takes the harshness off.
It has the absolute best grip outsole I have ever experienced on a road shoe.
The upper is just excellent. Chef’s kiss.
Perhaps a good metaphor is a bespoke old-school Boston with better materials and construction than Adidas would ever put into a trainer.
Despite all of those posh materials the weight is totally reasonable. Not light but reasonable at 320g for 13US. (Compare with 360g for Boston 11.)
I have 555km on my original pair and have retired them for running but still walk in them for casual wear. And I have a second pair with 50km. 👍
@@brianreiter5572 thanks for this. It’s what I was sort of expecting as well. I’m very very tempted now. However to get a pair here in Taiwan it will be a bit of a process. You went TTS?
Yes. I found that 13 US fits true to size. They are a unisex last but translate the sizing for women. My wife is happy with her normal size.
This doesn’t help much in Taiwan but their return policy is 30 days or 100 miles return no questions asked. They give you an RMA return label in the box.
@@brianreiter5572 Soooo tempted… haha. I so don’t need these at the moment either. 🤯
Is the takumi sen 9 upper fits the same as the adios 8?
No, not at all. The TS9 uses a very narrow last so the forefoot is extremely narrow as is the heel. The A8 uses a raise last, similar to the AP3, so the forefoot is much more generous and the toe box has more volume.
Lost me at ranking the Peg over the Takumi Sen 9. I wouldn't run in a Peg if it was free, vs my favorite shoe of all time.
We all have preferences. The TS9 is a great racer… but horrible trainer. The Peg40 on the other hand is the defacto daily trainer…
Totally different shoes as well. Very different use cases.
@@SagasuRunning true, in my case in 2023 I used the Takumi Sen 8-9 for intervals 300m/400/800/1000/mile/ 2 mile/3mile up to- 12 mile fast tempo runs and the Boston Marathon, a couple half Marathons and 2 10ks. There are so many better daily trainers with better foam than the Peg. I guess my preference is the lower stacked super shoes. Probably looking forward to the NB Pacer 2 the most. I do like the Pacer 1 for 400-800 intervals, anything longer than that and it isn't a good shoe.
@@RunTommy123 If the Takumi Sen fits your foot it’s a great shoe. It’s a true race fit for me and there about it.
I prefer the Vaporfly for road racing. While it’s definitely a max stack shoe… it feels much lower, almost racing flat’esque… especially the VF1/2.
I’m with you though… I prefer the lower stack shoes. I also love the Adios 8, even for a 5k it’s great.
For a daily trainer… I often want to work… the Pegasus is that shoe. I don’t need super foams or plates for those runs. The Peg is the standard!
You've changed 3 pairs of Vaporfly in 700km? Wow, why it's this no.1 if you changed a lot of pairs in this time?
The first pair I put around 350k in and bought a second pair for marathon training, put close to 300k more on those and bought a fresh pair to race in and put a 10k shakeout and a marathon on them.
I train in the shoe model I race in… so they get alot of kms into them. After about 180kms VF3s soften up and becomes great long run shoes. That’s when I buy a fresh pair for fast workouts.
This review is brought to you by Nike.
Not really… but ok.👌🏻
@@SagasuRunning It was sarcasm.
@@Wings_nut 🤙🏻
would b interesting to see a top 10 running shoes of all time
u said the adios 9 is gonna b making changes that u think will make it better than the adios 8, which changes r they specifically? also would u say the adios is a harsh shoe and not so forgiving coz of the rods? like if sum1 tends to get niggles from running, would a more 'forgiving' shoe be better to look at?
Eventually I'll make that video...but need to get some more time under the channel first.
If you are someone who gets niggles from shoes, I'd not recommend the Adios 8...or any Adidas Adizero shoe frankly. They tend to be firmer and harsher rides for most. Maybe look at Saucony or New Balance, which generally have more forgiving rides.
As for the Adios 9... big changes are coming. We saw it briefly in the TRE coverage, before it was taken down due to embargo. The Adios 8 doesn't have rods in it, just the torsion shank...but that is gone in the Adios 9 completely... the shoe will be pure Lightstrike pro... which is what I've wanted for some time...pure LSP with no stiffening agents. It is still a lower stack, like the Adios 8, and will have an upper with the same design language of the Evo 1... it looks fantastic.
@@SagasuRunning sweet ill b looking forward to it
if the adios 9 will remove torsion shank, maybe that would b more forgiving ? or the LSP foam still quite harsh?
@@io-rj6sk That is unknown. We have never had a shoe that was pure LPS. Also Adidas may after put a shank in the shoe and change what they reviewed. We shall see… but it’s exciting either way.
@@SagasuRunning oh rite and also i gotta ask since u said u love the pegasus, have u ever tried the new balanec 880 v13? its supposed to be the equivalent to the pegasus.
i heard the pegs tend to b mor narrow fitting, and i have slightly wide feet so the 880's r really comfy for me.
wondering how different they feel tho like foam wise, like which is firmer etc
i assume the ride is very similiar
@io-rj6sk Nope… but I will be covering the 880 v14 this year. It’s a very intriguing shoe. Stay tuned.