I'm really liking the quality and professionalism of this series. However sorely disappointed at the lack of machine operation and statistics as well as video coverage of same. And yes I understand they have intellectual property to protect.
IMO It seems more substantially informative to hear John, or any employee close to product, give an illuminating perspective from experience; rather than drawing ones own denouement from a 5 minute unwritten operation video that one can find elsewhere on youtube.
Very impressive so far. Idra seems to be one of the few companies to not only pivot, but also enable companies like Tesla using the new Giga presses to 'drive' into the future. Can't wait to see the remaining videos. Again, congrats to the entire Giga team.
the problem is with a bigger casting, you need more die pumps to make sure the die is filled in ONE shot. you, can't make a whole car that way. at minimum, you need 6 Gigapress to make ONE car .
Lucky for them, Tesla is manufacturing entire rear and front frames using Idra Gigapresses. It turns out there IS a market for Idra in the post ICE era.
There is no secret sauce as in the film where adriano spit into the glas oven. Its a special aluminium alloy - but the actual composition is no secret. Its a special press, very powerful, very fast, very sophisticated but again - nothing actually new. Just bigger better cheaper in the long run. The point is: There is no second producer of such machines in the world. Even if someone says - we make such a machine - they will take at least 10-15 years to get the same expertise as those pople already have. Just like Tesla. They are uncatchable.
Would really appreciate at least a high level explanation of how the regenerative hydraulic injection system works. Agreed that there is obviously there needs to be a certain level of opaqueness about the process, but surely they could divulge more info.
I think 8000 to Gigapress, is the limit for now. it's really not practical to do a Gigacast car body in ONE shot. but, you could do a car body with 6 piece Gigacasting.
Impressive. Nobody is, at the moment, capable to match what Idra is doing with this outstanding technology. Italians should be proud to have surpassed Germans in this field.
Italians have surpassed Germans in many fields of higher grade engineering,this is just one.look for companies like pama,Pietro carnaghi,davi promau,parmigiani macchine,faccin,hydromec Brescia,mcm Piacenza,bisiach carru etc and you will know their manufacturing and engineering excellence.Italians have these firms for so many years and have been innovators behind the scenes.Germans have a image,Italians have always been the real masters.
Waiting for next video. And yes, would like to see nor in-acton shots. Maybe in next series? Along with some info about proces for us, non-engenieers, please?
I am interested in understanding exactly what is meant by the claim that the "new field of light alloy production" helps producers achieve CO2 targets. How does it do that exactly?
Maybe because one big press can replace a lot of weld robots. Which need a lot of energy and time. The end product will probably also be lighter which is saves energy in driving cars.
Would love to see more, but appreciate you don't want to give ideas to competitors. We will see bigger subassemblies in vehicles, and monocoque builders may follow the Tesla route, but body-on-frame is also favoured by heavy batteries, and EV powertrains.
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I'm really liking the quality and professionalism of this series. However sorely disappointed at the lack of machine operation and statistics as well as video coverage of same.
And yes I understand they have intellectual property to protect.
IMO It seems more substantially informative to hear John, or any employee close to product, give an illuminating perspective from experience; rather than drawing ones own denouement from a 5 minute unwritten operation video that one can find elsewhere on youtube.
Very impressive so far. Idra seems to be one of the few companies to not only pivot, but also enable companies like Tesla using the new Giga presses to 'drive' into the future. Can't wait to see the remaining videos.
Again, congrats to the entire Giga team.
RETIRED 76, AF VET. GOOD JOB! I HOPE BIGGER MACHINE COMING.
the problem is with a bigger casting, you need more die pumps to make sure the die is filled in ONE shot.
you, can't make a whole car that way.
at minimum, you need 6 Gigapress to make ONE car .
Lucky for them, Tesla is manufacturing entire rear and front frames using Idra Gigapresses. It turns out there IS a market for Idra in the post ICE era.
Tesla in Austin and Berlin will be using Front & Rear Megacasting for Model Y And a Stamped battery tray & 4680 battery.
I wish they would mention their relationship with Tesla as it must be their biggest client.
I get that they don't want to divulge the 'secret sauce' - but was hoping to hear more about how the machines overcame such a hurdle.
There is no secret sauce as in the film where adriano spit into the glas oven. Its a special aluminium alloy - but the actual composition is no secret. Its a special press, very powerful, very fast, very sophisticated but again - nothing actually new. Just bigger better cheaper in the long run. The point is: There is no second producer of such machines in the world. Even if someone says - we make such a machine - they will take at least 10-15 years to get the same expertise as those pople already have. Just like Tesla. They are uncatchable.
Would really appreciate at least a high level explanation of how the regenerative hydraulic injection system works. Agreed that there is obviously there needs to be a certain level of opaqueness about the process, but surely they could divulge more info.
Here's what you are looking for. Sandy Monro went and got exactly that from IDRA.
ruclips.net/video/IgTNynoVX-I/видео.html
So glad your customer drove the cycle time requirement down. Hope they push hard on the boundaries again.
I think 8000 to Gigapress, is the limit for now.
it's really not practical to do a Gigacast car body in ONE shot.
but, you could do a car body with 6 piece Gigacasting.
Impressive. Nobody is, at the moment, capable to match what Idra is doing with this outstanding technology. Italians should be proud to have surpassed Germans in this field.
Italians have surpassed Germans in many fields of higher grade engineering,this is just one.look for companies like pama,Pietro carnaghi,davi promau,parmigiani macchine,faccin,hydromec Brescia,mcm Piacenza,bisiach carru etc and you will know their manufacturing and engineering excellence.Italians have these firms for so many years and have been innovators behind the scenes.Germans have a image,Italians have always been the real masters.
Great video! So informative
John, well presented.
Waiting for next video.
And yes, would like to see nor in-acton shots. Maybe in next series? Along with some info about proces for us, non-engenieers, please?
Every manufacturer has to build new factories to make this viable and adopt this technology- #TESLA
No, they can reuse the old factory 🏭, but will have to Strip the factory down.
then rebuild.
_These guys don't know the word "boundaries"- van Gogh of the casting world!_
Interesting... pivoting from ICE manufacturing to EVs
Impressed! But I miss the Italians.
Please add some b-roll of the machines in action, it would help visualize what are you referring to.
Any auto manufacturing companies other than Tesla buying these machines?
yes, but only smaller casting, for small parts, like suspension arms.
no one on EARTH 🌎 , is doing Total Rear Megacasting like Tesla.
Dynamic force of injection is crucial.
I am interested in understanding exactly what is meant by the claim that the "new field of light alloy production" helps producers achieve CO2 targets. How does it do that exactly?
Maybe because one big press can replace a lot of weld robots. Which need a lot of energy and time. The end product will probably also be lighter which is saves energy in driving cars.
Less material (thinner materials / different alloys / similar or better properties).
Countdown.
Would love to see more, but appreciate you don't want to give ideas to competitors. We will see bigger subassemblies in vehicles, and monocoque builders may follow the Tesla route, but body-on-frame is also favoured by heavy batteries, and EV powertrains.