Acuvter Oh you just wait. I'm currently building my D0L4N D4NK 3000 bot that will eliminate all meme channels. It will provide only the top tier level of memes.
The animation is absolutely lovely tho. The art, the choice of color, and the background music. A terrifying possibility delivered in an absolutely stunning way.
@@shorx9199 Believe it or not, it's just the opposite. Having run the /r/MediaSynthesis subreddit for several years, it's clear to me that it's creative and entertainment jobs that are going first because people fundamentally miscalculated what's required out of these jobs compared to physical ones
Automation in a capitalist system is only terrifying as long as people need money to survive. and people's incomes and health care are chained to their jobs
Weird I thought the last job would be basically "Guy that fixes the robots when they break" But if you really think about it, even that could eventually automated.
I don't get why, with all that technology and Catbot 2.0, the human kind still have poverty and food production problems. If everything goes bad as the video shows, the problem isn't with the machines...
The problem is that certain people breed irresponsibly without planning out what to do in the future and expect that other who did should cover for them because feelings.
Dzonatan Gavert irresponsible breeding come from a. People who don't care at all (and therefore some supporting/educational system should assist them) ; b. People that have no idea of the implications of putting more people in the world (happens a lot in religious and poor countries). But, even if those people still exist in the future, they are very likely to live together in the same cities or country. And their problems is also everyone's problems. If there is injustice, inequality and poverty somewhere, then it is everyone's responsibility to solve those problems. If you wait the poor to solve poverty alone, or the discriminated to solve discrimination alone and what so ever, you will never get rid of the problems.
> irresponsible breeding come from a. People who don't care at all (and therefore some supporting/educational system should assist them) ; b. People that have no idea of the implications of putting more people in the world (happens a lot in religious and poor countries). You can bring a horse to a river but you cant force him to drink from it. The drive for improvement has to come from the afflicted, otherwise you're only rewarding perpetual infancy. > But, even if those people still exist in the future, they are very likely to live together in the same cities or country. And their problems is also everyone's problems. No. My neighbours problems are his problems until they start spilling over to my side of the fence. Then he has to get his act together and clean up my yard. > If there is injustice, inequality and poverty somewhere, then it is everyone's responsibility to solve those problems. If you wait the poor to solve poverty alone, or the discriminated to solve discrimination alone and what so ever, you will never get rid of the problems. There's always some eternal orphan out there. You can't save them all.
Because you can get anything with money. For example it cost Rs 30 to buy 1kg of rice, but it takes days of hardwork, nature sunlight fresh air harvest to make 1kg rice. When the robotic age comes, there will be no one to pay money to. Money will become useless. Because a human needs money. A robot will only need power to run by itself. Whole of economics will collapse.
@@bijoyendrasharma4781 but if money will become useless, why there is rich and poor people on the video? And if the machines can repair and produce themselves without any money in this, why don't use them to give all people a better life? I mean, the robots could go to the fields and produce food or whatever.
i find it absolutely bewildering that people can imagine pretty much anything being robotic *except* food production................. *why the fuck haven't we created automated vertical farms throughout every major city yet?*
+tonyfalca Because that would change the entire infrastructure of transport and job elimination, more people will lose their jobs. Especially farmers will lose on this as well. I'd like to see these things happen now, but apparently not everyone is aware and educated about this.. So it's likely that Japan will start first with the vertical automated farms so that other countries will catch up to and scale it further..
Morph Verse everybody having food > farmers (or anybody else for that matter) having a job lol they're already doing this in (iirc) singapore. there are also automated (not really vertical) "farms" back east in canada. but all of this is financially driven :/
Because it is not competitive so there is no need for it atm. There are greenhouses for vegetables though but this is more so they can beat the competition to market.
NotAsian no need for it? the fact that canada has the 11th largest economy and tolerates a child poverty rate of 14.4%. the fact that out of 35 million 4.65 million canadians are living on average one third below the poverty line... the fact that we spend much more on servicing the debt each year than what is allotted in the budget to "invest" in the country itself. and i could go on. please keep your ignorance to yourself.
tonyfalca Those stats are irrelevant, vertical farms would increase poverty not decrease it as they are more expensive than conventional farms. Its almost as if you didn't read anything, its almost as if you don't know the difference between absolute and relative poverty. Its almost as if you don't consider private investment to be investment. It is blatantly obvious to me you know very little, the fact you think I am ignorant because I made a very simple statement about why vertical farming does not occur is bemusing. I thought you wanted a answer, well the answer is because we have better alternatives. Please don't keep going your reasoning is not as good as you think it is... Is it your reasoning? If it isn't you need to get better sources.
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the last job on the planet will probably be the artists.
people will seek out originality and the emotion though, even if the paitings are identical, value isn't placed in perfection, it's placed in what is means to people, the value of a van gogh painting isn't the technical feit, it's what we deemed it brought to art history and mouvement. He isn't internationally acclaimed because he was good, but because of the innovation and rule breaking creativity he showed in his work inspired so many people it changed Art. A robot, not matter how good they are at copying will never be able to replace art, because art is about humanity
Jens Hansen it believe it wasn't a copy and actually was an original. It analyzed every face and brushstroke and used it to generate a new portrait using the features it studied. Obviously it couldn't make its own style or create features from nothing so it did copy the features just an original combo
year 2025; people become aware of how bad porn for the mental health is. about 60% of males will be in the nofap movement. illuminati will kill that 60%
Technology alone can't change the world for the better. We need to declare technological progress and nature and its resources the common heritage of humankind if we want to avoid this future.
@@UnknownUser.ar1 How about we get rid of money? Since we already produce more than we consume, soon most manual labor jobs will be taken by machines and with abundance for all there is no need for markets, money or countries. It is a possible future.
+onee I mean, the video didn't make any claims, it was just a short little video to illustrate a point. And probably make people think about the future. What the University prof said is very much a likely scenario tho, robots could take a lot of our jobs in 30 years. They literally already are taking some jobs. If you assume ANY rate of advancement in technology there will come a time when humans do not need to work. Elon Musk has addressed this matter of fact. This isn'tnecessarily a bad thing tho, it could be a VERY good thing. It all depends on how we manage it. I know it can seem kinda scary but it will happen unless humanity wipes itselfout before it happens.
Right. Crazier things exist now than what was presented in "Back To The Future". Though quite a few things in that movie are real now. Like video phones (face time, video conferences, and skype).
Agreed Male Sentient Void. I saw an animated movie where that happened. A machine called Mother took control of everything and took care of everyone. Humans became so lazy they nearly died out. Then when they realized they had to stop the machine before they did die out they eventually died out when they could no longer fend for themselves after the machine was shut down.
If machines do all the work, then how do we get our basic needs met? Is the government going to give each of its citizens an allotment of food/housing/spending money? or is a corporation going to do it? We are then at the mercy of 'mother government' for survival. I don't know where this all leads, but it is a conversation worth having, and soon.
No, integrate with the machines so that we receive all of their benefits. I'm not interested in a super-advanced AI running around doing the jobs -- I'm interested in becoming a super-advanced AI. Why make a machine that is 1,000,000,000x as intelligent as a human when we could just make ourselves 1,000,000,000x smarter? As Woody Allen said, "I don't want to achieve immortality through my work. I want to achieve immortality through not dying."
Johanna Kidd No way! We will still need doctors to design and build those medical equipment and do research. It would just be an advancement of each job specification i.e requiring more skills.
We're still in the early stages of human evolution and have many mistakes and flaws to learn from. We also need to stop being distant from nature and accept ourselves as who and what we are.
What will happen when we no longer have work? Is this really a good thing? Will people really find value in pleasures if they never stimulate their work-reward neural pathway? It could very well be we are working to make ourselves lazy, or worse: psychologically incapable of facing adversity.
333 Studios no, we will become humans who believe they deserve everything because they don’t have to work or earn anything. They’re given money from some government entity just for breathing on the behalf of machines. I see self entitlement only growing
lmao... There is a life outside your job. You could become a creative, a scientist or anything you want, by yourself, for pleasure. Because you don't have to suffer from work to have an activity, and no work doesn't mean no activity. Einstein, Da vinci, Newton... etc etc weren't "working" when they changed our world, they had a passionate activity.
when robots takes jobs, its mostly the ones where you do repetitive and not very creative tasks like working in a factory its not a bad thing since it gets people out of dangerous areas and it frees up more people to create the next big thing rather than building another tesla for your paycheck so the people who complain about losing jobs in these areas are the people who are too lazy to go get a education and move up in the world
333 Studios We are not just automating any work, we automate dull, monotonous work. Creative work will remain, and in fact replace our current non-creative work. Work/jobs
This is a very dystopian view, when in reality this could be paradise. We can choose to fight for an economy that works for all of us. We can be strategic as common people and not let corporations and governments have all the power.
There is no reason to think they'll have no need of us. We the people are far more numerous and powerful than them. When it comes to the point where they are us as irrelevant, then we must choose to see them irrelevant and take, even by force if necessary, control democratically running the means of production. Even in 20 years when half of everyone is unemployed, that's half the population ready to revolt. Capitalism will fail, but rising from its ashes will be a system we democratically choose to live in, a classless, moneyless, stateless society.
Christopher Canon true democracy doesn't work very well, that's why no one uses it, we use Democratic Republics, but that's different. perhaps that's what you meant.
This is happening to me in real time at my current job. My tasks are being automated 1 by 1 that I get or do. We have an RPA Team in house who go through each segment to review their tasks for automation so we can focus on "higher value work". To this day after almost a year, I have received no "higher value" tasks that have been safe from automation. That's just code for being laid off anyway.
@@bluester7177 the more people lose their jobs to automation the more of a need there is for UBI. And the more automation is the more surplus assets there are that can be divided amongst people. UBI isn't free money, its an investment, as people put the money back into the system. Its cheaper to ration everyone with something than to spend on policing the homeless, the crimes that spawn from poverty and the like
@@TFx2TVUPI is great and all if there wasn't A CHANCE THAT it won't be impacted by CORRUPTION and greed by PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE IN CONTROL OF IT. that sucks. Most criminals most thiefs wouldn't have to commit crime but society wants criminal to punish for crowds applause just like 2000 years ago on Colosseum we are still barbarians at core.
People already building them........ they are pretty limited and only experimental sofar tough... but if you think about it... sex robots will come faster then any other real robot type XDDDDDDD
instead nations all over the world spend most of their country’s resources on military advancement we could all unite and do much better stuffs like exploring more of the space and even advance in technology
Charismatic Batman You're right. The US government wasted 600 billion on the military last year. We could've used that money to eliminate poverty and maybe build a moon colony.
It should be. If all the robots took our jobs we would be rich. We would not have to do anything and communism would work. Every one gets equal amount of things since no one is working. And this equal amount of resources would be high because of how efficiant the robots are working basically making everyone up to the upper middle class level, or maybe even the rich class. Poverty would be abolished and with the rapid rate of AI intelligence and its self learning it would be able to destroy sadness in general with humans converting their brain data and their conciousness into a computer simulation where they could be happy for ever. This sounds evil, the world being conquered by robots but in all of reality no one is sad and everyone is free to not choose this. And even if we were forced to live in euphoria who would deny it. Would you deny a million dollars no so why deny that.
What few fail to realize is when the corpotations no longer need us to work for them we will return to what we originally were; makers, artists, and tradesmen. When society no longer tell us what we have to be and do to be valuable we will create ourselves.
Well you can scratch artists off the list, that actually seems like the thing A.I.'s improving upon the fastest, what with Dall-E and Midjourney and such. That was like...5years since your comment, give it another 5 years from mine and I bet they'll start replacing animators as well.
In the video they show people in a bread line but this video was made by a rich man who fails to understand the poor who would grow food and build or repair homes instead of letting it fall apart.
So I'm a novelist. I write novels for a living. When in the process of writing, I've got it down to a fairly precise and well-defined series of steps. I've deconstructed the art of composing an entire book down to its constituent parts, and the frightening thing is that it's not really all that complicated. In fact, if I team up with a good programmer and refine this process to something more based upon logic rather than "feeling", I could most likely create an AI that will procedurally generate novels based upon prompts given it. Given that the "spark of creativity" is nothing more than a reflection of my own personality, any artificial intelligence that can pass the Turing Test would likely have enough of a "personality" to write competent creative novels. Given that the basic narrative structure is the genesis of literally all human works of creativity, this means that all media could be generated by machines: music, art, video games, film. It just requires someone who excels at that craft to deconstruct it to produce the program. Some would say that this would be akin to destroying my own job. But I think of it more like achieving immortality. Accomplishing this would be giving birth to a program that could write novels just like my own, for eternity. All I have to do is input my own personality.
Exactly. You get it. All the great minds of humanity are just that: human. And since the human brain is physical, obviously, the greats of humanity are the absolute minimum of AI potential. The minimum. Einstein, Tolkien, Mozart; all of them will be a baseline, not the pinnacle.
*+Vagelis 4VP* I wouldn't so sure about it. I mean, nuclear world without internet is always an option. Bright future is cool, but shit can always happen.
Well, maybe. Look at how we already think about previous economic shifts. We praise the winners, and either downplay or forget the losers. What will probably happen in 50 years is people on the winning side of the transition will talk about how silly it is, and people on the losing side of it will not have much access to information anyway.
Your ULTIMATE JOB as a human IS to put "technology" to work. ITS job is to provide you with the comfort and the help you need to fulfill YOUR dreams and ideas. The humans who are not creative will have no job ultimately. Constant and mechanical work, providing us with more room for brainstorming, IS MEANT to be for robots, thus we can continue constructing our future more efficiently and much wisely. So, it's ok! ;)
With the increase in lifespan and human health, birth rates will drop as death rates drop. Population will still be maintained. Culturally however just extrapolating from recent to past few hundreds of years of humanity, as technology grows, human population grows. Current innovations as Tinder is further accelerating human to human contact. So if this continues, technology would only make MORE people fuck rather than less. Whether they choose to have kids or not is undetermined since cultural changes are more unpredictable than technological changes.
Same......Never had a gf. Can't talk to girls. Sucks. They just use me for my brain as a tutor buddy, but I'm always nothing more than a Google. Plus I'm not that good looking either. Kinda smelly too cus I study all day. Don't dress fancy either. Not rich either. My best friend is myself.
+Eric Lee I don't really see that as a problem. If the tech is that advanced in the future, we may be able to grow a baby in an artificial womb and have the sex-bots store eggs/sperm from those people. So it's still going to be gg.
And why can't you just make your life worthy of it? There are already people who hate their job - are they dead to you? You are not simply defined by your workforce.
That's the question? I think it's more - Why would money BE distributed? And we would simply have more lower classes of poor, just like the rest of the world.
you dont need money, if theres no people working And "robots" can repair themselves then all you need to do is live And eat, food would be sufficient for all humanity, so why would you hace to pay forma something thats infinite? u dont pay for air anyway
At some point, we are going to have to have the discussion about what people are supposed to do when the menial tasks are taken care of for us. Are we going to be free to explore our full potential? Or are we to abandoned by the powers that be? I would like to see a world where everyone is taken care of, able to freely pursue their dreams and not become human waste.
Joe Robertson I would like that too... but by what? robots? would you trust a robot which is more intelligent and powerful than you to take care of you and don't kill you?... even if he isn't more intelligent than you, even if it is just a big humanoid shaped can with a phone processor, that processor can be hacked and used by other people to kill you...I don't say that humans are more less likely to kill you, but humans have empathy (at least 99%, because 1% could be psychopaths) and that thing stops us from killing everyone we see in front of us... you see empathy is a feeling and robots don't feel anything, they are just thinkers , so for them we are just obselete, nothing more.
If we follow the 3 laws of robotics, insure that the robots themselves will reproduce it during the development of other robots, and allow only robots the capability and capacity to reprogram each other following this, it could never develop into this kind of a problem.
+adub4ever Given the historical exponential pace of technological progress, it seems like it's more 'quickly' coming to an end. We certainly do live in interesting times! :D
+adub4ever i got my fingers crossed and i've had them crossed for the last 10 years. we have the technology to automate pretty much anything, including food production.
+Linguistic Team International And economists and politicians don't want to admit it. They are obsessed with creating more jobs after 10 years. while the rest of the world is facepalming how backwards they are.
The last job on earth will be to consume products. If we're talking paying jobs, it's likely that if everything possible will be automated in a company, the last job would be singular entrepreneurs who start new fully automated enterprises themselves without any employees and act as figureheads (before automating the figurehead position and the eventual automation of new ideas)
Tonald Dump You mean break each other. A broken machine trying to fix another machine could lead to it 'fixing' that machine improperly and if they are all programmed to fix one another if the situation arises, that could quickly lead to almost all machines spoilt. And this has no solution at present either. In fact communicable disease is an example, as our body fighting the disease, to cure itself spreads the diseases to others.
Ethan9750 A functioning machine will be fixing broken machine. Just like how doctors treat other doctors when they get sick. If a surgeon needs surgery he goes to another surgeon that can do the job.
well isn't this similar in star trek where humans are not actually working for money anymore due to advance alien economy (somewhere in star trek movie stated by jean Luc Piccard), so people can actually focus on pursuing a meaningfull career
Like having sex with aliens and creating absurdly strict yet completely arbitrary moral codes and then being perfectly willing to allow the deaths of countless innocents in order to protect these values? Also Space Facism. (They don't have the death penatly, but they use prisoners as forced labour even though the very cheapest of robots (using their tech level) would be a thousand times more effective.)
Poverty is caused by scarcity. How do you have any scarcity when there would be an abundance of all things required in living and being, human. Would we not thus be free of the need to consume our very lives just to live? Instead would we be free to expand, grow and improve all things while working with intelligent machines in ways we have yet to imagine? I feel optimistic about automation. Humans make poor slaves.
+mastertheillusion Not unless economic philosophy evolves with the new technology. Haven't you heard of artificial scarcity? For example there is absolutely no reason for anyone to go hungry in the United States. We produce enough food for everyone. We throw a lot of perfectly good food in the trash. Many stores upon realizing that hungry people were removing the food from the trash, have taken measures to destroy the food before disposing of it.
mastertheillusion Sounds pretty aimless to me honestly. I guess we could explore space, but after colonizing 1 thousand, 1 million planets, it would just be the same thing over and over and over. Land on planet, set up robots, eat food, send some of population off to find another planet. But then you say we should pursue art and intellectual past times. Imo, not everyone is artistic or intelligent. For me, I find art a bore and could not imagine living to the age of 100 years doing nothing but eating and drawing pictures. The one saving grace I can imagine is that we take advantage of the cheaper (not free because although labor will be free, natural resources might not be) food and necessities and still manage to have interesting social interactions and family/ community goals based around something.
+Michael Peyton "Many stores upon realizing that hungry people were removing the food from the trash, have taken measures to destroy the food before disposing of it." That's less to do with it being out of spite and more to do with the 'litigate first' nature that modern western society and is an attempt to mitigate risk and liability.
mastertheillusion if you would be a more intelligent and powerful robot than any human being would you work for them as a slave all your life for nothing or would you rebel and kill them in order to do what you want and to get what you deserve?
Sofós Skála It'll just lead to society breakdown and eventually human civilization. At least now, people still have jobs, so they can buy basic necessities, driving the economy. But in a future where automation is near universal, people don't have jobs, therefore, no income and no savings. This means that no products will be consumed. Current economic system can't work if there's only producers but no consumers. Unless new economic system and policies take place, corporations will only walk toward self-destruction.
What you havent realised is that at some point all jobs and positions will be occupied by machines, even the ownership of companies and political leadership of countries, so the human economic systems will be succeeded by a economic system conceived by IAs
then the people whom don't need purpose will survive and pass their genetic codex, peoples likes psychopaths and other kind of non-neurotypical people who don't fell many emotions
Tbh, this is one of my most greatest fears. Not the inventions, but the whole 'everything you know, used to, cherish memories into, enjoy, and love all change and move on' thing that brought fear to me.
I absolutely love this animation and style. Even the music and sound design work really well. Id love to see a feature length futuristic movie like this! Don’t think robots will be able to conceive and produce quality films like this anytime soon.
The catch which isn't realized, is that the faster companies mechanize to save money, the more they displace people, the more they reduce public purchasing power. This means that while the corporation can produce everything more cheaply, fewer & fewer people will actually have money to buy anything, regardless of how cheap they become. The bottom line is that the "labor for income" game is slowly coming to an end. In fact, if you take a moment to reflect on the jobs which are in existence today which automation could take over right now, if applied, 75% of the global workforce could be replaced by mechanization tomorrow.
Mechanization only happens if it is more productive--i.e. you get more stuff with less inputs. That means relatively speaking prices come down. So that means that with lower prices everyone else still working has more purchasing power and that results in more production. What this does is shift the workforce around and also the amount of work that is done. The amount of time people spend working is decreasing over time. Could come a day when we won't need to work. That this has to lead to widespread poverty is not a sustainable outcome.
how about some people who do not have enough money to buy those automation convenience stuffs? the corporations are willing to give away their money to those people? and even if they want, how exactly they can implement that task? you are dreaming, idiot. The world is more complicated than some fairy tales demonstrated by the Internet, even if those stories were told by million of adorable cartoon images
The medium does not change the possibility. The reasons we have working ethical principles is because we thought of the solutions beforehand. The opposite goes for the ones that don't work.
In that future the companies/countries would not need money or workforce, but only resources to produce their droids in order to fight each other in war of controlling the earth.
As a civilization we are approaching a time where nobody needs to work; everything can be automated. We need a new system whereby the automation benefits everyone, as capitalism would render everyone unemployed and the machines would work for the 1% not everyone.
+Ferdia McKeogh eh not true, people will work as it is an inherent trait and quality of being human that many pursue. science cannot be automated; nor art and handmade goods by artisans and crafters. automation will benefit everyone, we as citizens just need to demand a more egalitarian society
When the place I work for isnt massively busy I can do 2 hours work a day and still be paid my salary. Its hard to accept that its ok to be paid to do nothing but its all automated and machines doing the labour and this is the way it is now
+Zachary Mahmood A lot of science is already automated. Computers do the vast, vast majority of the legwork, although they do still rely on humans to give them direction and creative input. Computers have also demonstrated a fledgeling ability to create art and music indistinquishable from that of humans, although it is currently limited to only a few formats, and learn through imitation. However, as time goes on, and technology advances, it really is only a matter of time before they become as capable as humans themselves. Technically speaking, you're correct about the "handmade goods", but only insofar as that they are, in fact, handmade. For such to qualify from a machine, they'd have to achieve sentient AI companions with physical bodies, effectively indistinguishable from ourselves (which would be a philosophical nightmare) and those are quite a ways off. (Though not as long as you'd think.)
Excellent and concise comment. After watching this video I was mentally preparing myself to have to go to war with the commenters who are like "OMG STOP AUTOMATION IT WILL BRING DYSTOPIA BECAUSE JOBZZZZ". But everyone here including you seem to be very reasonable and clear-headed, and that's awesome.
perhaps Marxist idea of communism was precisely this. a world where everything is perfectly calculated and everything is equal distributed and produce. AI was unimaginable in Marxist time. this could be what he was alluding to.
But AI would never work if those crazy ideas of Marx really took place, there's no innovation on this ideas... maybe after the IAs are working but not before, until then let us humans get better with capitalism, when nothing cost anything then the world can be socialist/communist I wouldn't care anyway.
Mozart Prado that's what Ragnarok Sora meant. After the AI takes over the world, communism is guaranteed to be the main economic system, since it would work MUCH better than capitalism. No more jobs, no more need for money.
Its exactly what Marx thought. a world where product output is so great, people dont need jobs and can just live their lives without worry. Capitalism created a world that was kind of like that compared to what life was like before the Industrial Revolution. Efficiency of output so great, there are finally people who just dont need to work.
currency would still be in effect even if goods are evenly distributed, it would be a way to keep people from over consuming. Plus people like artists would want something for their work (it's great deterant from overwhelming art requests)
Furlow Torent We will need democratic communism. Not a few people decide what goes where, the whole society decides. Then we could do what we naturally desire: Sports, art & free education, insted of working in a system.
We need money if we want to buy these stuff like this apartment for example. It's not good becouse a lot of people are going to lose their jobs. But I think it's super cool. We need to think more futuristic. :)
No. The robots would be our slaves. We would never need to work again. You would just ask for a hamburger, and the robot would give it to you, at no charge.
Knoxx and then finally communism will work as the concept of it! The reason it didnt work 50 years ago was because we didnt have machines to do all he work instead of us, so instead it ended up as dictation! But when humans no longer need to work communism will work! Not only that, we must abandom capitalism because we got no choise..
This toon makers assume that only tech will move forward which is false. Society will have no choice but to change as well toward providing everyone with a certain standard of living and access to the wealth being created by automation of labor. This is our common dream - to be free of trying to make ends meet so we can engage in things we love. When all have equal access to food, healthcare, education, transportation, housing people will have no need to engage in aberrant behaviors that have roots in materialism. This is evident from the famous Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
This sort of society seems like the kind of one that would produce behaviors from people that have roots in materialism. The drawback I see to all of the technological development from the times of metal smithing and farming is that humans have lost touch with the instinctual realm of the unconscious mind
With this utopian guaranteed basic income, where is the money coming from. It doesn't grow on trees. The money that the government gives out comes from workers. That's people with jobs. Your head is so far up in the clouds you can't see the ground let alone keep your feet on it.
J.H.H you’re never gonna get a job? So what, do you just freeload off the money of others? Do you just steal the money you want by freeloading on welfare?
J.H.H if I was the president of your country, I would make having a job a legal requirement. You must have a job by law. So force labour in jail or an actual paid job. You will have a job ether way.
Hosam Alzobaidi No I won't look it up. I know exactly what humor is and I also know that most of the time it originates from the horrid racial consciousness that still plagues this society. That's why I chose a life without any humor; to hopefully bring humanity one step closer to utopia.
Elekris oh no, racist people use that symbol, so if I use that symbol..... Ima racist?. *Gasp*. So according to your logic, racist people, eat l, breath, and live?. So if I eat, breath, and live... Then I'm a racist person too???. *GASP*
If we are to become too dependent on robots, what will so happend when the entire world systems shut down and we do no longer have any idea how to live without our bots to do everything for us? What about neutrons, muons and pions from outher space that could completely change the coding of a robot and make it shut down (or potentially make it dangerous) as in sci-fi movies. Yes, it is techically possible. You should also consider that humans needs to feel useful. If robots does everything for us and we are just wacking around doing nothing productive, we'll feel useless and the amounts of depressed and suicides will increase. In summary, I don't like where this is going and will go as far as to say that the chances of robots being the end of humanity is higher than many might think. Ofcourse this is just speculations, but putting all the factors toghter and robots seem to do more harm than good, and I'd highly recommend being utterly careful with them.
Merlin people will create simulations to feel useful or commit themselves to the singularity. You know when people donate processing power from their computers into a network, it would work like that but with a human brain. This will leave the person in a seemingly dead state but it technically gives a numerical purpose to a human existence.
Sounds depressing to me. When you are so worthless that you have to spend your entire life in a computer simulation. Please shut down those robots before we get to that point ...
You are essentially referring to catastrophic mutation of ai, which can be repaired by humans. It’s just as likely that a human will mutate into a zombie. Either way, it’s not something that we need to worry about, it wouldn’t be in our control.
you combine full automation with a universal income and omnipresent superintelligence system. You've got yourself the utopian pinnacle of civilisation.
@@flennboyd6413 What We REALLY need is a Scientific Abolishing and BETTER Alternative to The Capitalistic System by some magnitude of some way, Period Dot Dash, Period Point Blank.
If everything will be automated, it means there is almost no effort in production. It means everything is a lot cheaper (maybe even free) than it was before, including education, healthcare, food, houses, computers, transportation, traveling, everybody can afford almost everything that includes in the basic need of modern society.
+Marat Kairatbek sounds good to me, means i can do scientific research or teaching in the day time, mma training at night, skate/surf and/or write/play music at a club on the weekend, and have decent life documenting all of it for human historical records so my great grandchildren can say what a cool dude I was
except those scientific research, music writing, etc. thingies you will be doing will also be done by robots... Meaning literally the only thing people will be doing in the future is to sleep, eat, and exist... And indulge themselves upon hundreds upon hundreds of hours into the internet.
What I find really funny about the people saying "humans won't do anything because robots can already do it better" is that this is already proven false. Computers are now far better at chess than humans ever will be but Grandmaster humans still exist. So to say that scientific research and music writing, things that computers can and routinely are doing better than humans, will still be done by humans... it just won't make or cost money like it does now.
honestly I was worried and still am about the future regarding automation. But this would be an ideal outcome based on the video where u can literally just live life. It reminds me of playing a video game where u aren't necessarily obligated to do this or that. No goals other than what u make of it.
Those jobs can all be replaced by machines eventually. Yes, even architects. The most basics being that it would be a very "Logical" design to full fill the needs of the building. Some software can even predict trends, so it could possibly even become very decorative in ways that people would enjoy. And of course, machines can build machines, they do it already. Eventually when computers are better at learning, they may be able to research advancements for their own technology to further their efficiency without human interference. And yes, that's when you get the scary realm of what might machines do with that ability.
what about dj and artists. dunno how macjines will make songs we listen to or rave to at clubs. original video game creators? judges? since a human touch is sometimes needed in some cases. dont think every job will be taken unless robots are indistinguishable from real humans in conciousness or creativity.
359 Michaelward Why would they need it? we're looking at being able to 3d print organic material as is, The "you wouldn't download a car" has already become almost completely irrelevant. The potentially Scarry shit doesn't start until we reach singularity.
Automated tech is capital by definition. If every family owns a certain amount of "stock/equity" that is then divided with and among the children as they're born then people would get their share of the production. Which could also work as a population control mechanism, if there arn't enough resources around then people can't support more children and an ecological collapse can be avoided... A lot of people seem more interested in distributing resources than the survival of the human race and almost every other species on the planet. We're living in a time of mass extinction and people are blind to it.. It's all, can I haz moar? The future will need regulation if mankind is to stand a chance to survive, nm the rest of the dying ecosystems.
They will take most jobs within a 100 years, slow learning humans need not apply.
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Even today there are VERY FEW jobs that can be held by somebody with an IQ of 85. As the years go by and AI progresses that number will go up until you'll need an IQ of 130 to hold a basic job and even then the time will come when 150 won't be enough, on and on it goes. A realistic assessment of the future is that it'll be a bleak one for humans.
Well, it's not a "fully automated world", because humans still exist. Why careing for medication or dental health, removing the human would save up so much ressources...... suddenly I can understand the reasoning behind the reapers from Mass Effect. If you seek efficiency than there is nothing more ineffective and wasteful than life itself.
Das Wonderpet not working isn’t good for us. Just like if you pamper a dog so that it no longer lives like an dog, it’s going to be anxious and negatively react because it’s not fulfilling its nature. Humans have a desire to work. Take that away, won’t produce good results.
Zach Quiroz I don't think the analogy with the dog is correct because it implies work is part of human nature, but who says that? You work cause you must. If we want to find a purpose in life, that will be procreation, but every other activity has basically no meaning. Passions and hobbies are so special cause you don't do them for profit, etc. They are simply something that you like to do
There's a lot of fear-mongering here, much like what happens with any other technological advancement in history. Anything short of a major calamity (think nuclear war or a massive asteroid impact) won't destroy civilization. People seem to forget that people learn to adapt to changes and no one is going to truly settle with doing nothing for their entire lives. We'll no longer be sitting in a dull office for 40 hours a week but we'll still be busying ourselves with something else that we'll find important. I'm not one of those people who think it'll usher in some idyllic utopia but it's not going to be all doom and gloom either.
@@Bacontats just go explore the galaxy, its technically infinite, and you can be famous for finding anomalies or new life, and there is really no need for robots to do that
It is if you have bills and other expenditure to pay, unless you can remodel the entire world economy then money is still important for self-security and being able to meet and go out with your friends etc.
Peder With power can come responsibility and blame. Something that can offer good can also offer something bad. Nudge nudge wink wink robots can take over the world.
In my opinion, long after AI takes over everything, sport will continue to exist. No matter how many revoluntionary athletes AI can produce, humans will still be interested in human-only competitions, because any other competitor just fails the principle of sport which is to *test the boundaries of the human body.* Who knows, maybe humans can even learn from the machine techniques to improve themselves. By expanding this into other areas, it makes sense for many human abilities - cognition, emotion, etc - to exist alongside machines. We still want to look for people who can amaze us with their *raw talent,* something that machines can feel no satisfaction from. In fact, most of us are driven by our *intrinsic passion* to pursue the jobs we have. Everyone, from the barista to the neural network researcher, should have the right to refuse to surrender their work to an AI, but instead work alongside it, because the joy of doing things and learning is really what keeps humanity moving.
It might not only be testing the boundaries of the human body in the future but competitors who want to show off their newly cyborg mechanical parts or even competitors who transferred their consciousness to a far more advanced android body to test it's limits. Maybe everyone will just dump off their original body given at birth and pursuit an android body that is superior in every way. Nobody wants to be inferior and loses every ball game to competitors with android bodies.
We have already created a world where we don't need to work much, yet society continues to push the illusion of needing to be productive forward. How many are already serving jobs without purpose? Will machines just push more people creating meaningless jobs to remain occupied?
They won't be living on the streets because robots will mine materials, convert them and build houses practically for free. Never having to work again is a good thing, why are people so afraid of it? Try to think outside the capitalist system and free your mind of obstructive patterns
Honeysmile13 I think you missed the part where the lady was examined by a robot. The point is, the technology for automating complex tasks is already in development. Robot technicians will also be a thing, because it isn't that hard to program a robot that diagnoses and repairs others, especially if they can do the same with humans.
So looking forward to this :D Assuming universal basic income becomes a thing, If on the other hand we continue down wealth consolidation route it will be quite unpleasant for most people and will eventually lead to a disastrous proletariat uprising just like we were found of seeing so often in our history... Oh you romans, always doing it first.. and second ... and third... ;)
Good to hear that someone as you, has learned from history, and has this "vision". It is important what we have to discuss this now, and let our "decsionsmakers" know. Today it seems that most ordinary people don't care. Yes, power always corrupt the mind.
MySQL it just said machines will take 50% of our jobs in next 30 years , how will "Universal basic income" even exist if a big chunk of demand in workforce has been taken? LMAO unless your middle class(whatever you gross a year) in that time you will not be living so good, we tell yall WAKE UP but yall still waiting for iPhone XI -_-
Out of curiosity - do you enjoy paying $10 for a t-shirt instead for $250? You can thank that automation the luddites risked their lives to fight against. Automation is not sad it is AMAZING! Go ahead and try to live a year without any automation, nothing but had made cloths, shoes, food, the lumber to build something, the car you drive, everything. Automation has made everything better, faster, and cheaper. The problem with rapid change is it causes a lot of unemployment, which causes a collapse in the economy. How that happens is complicated and something that would take hundreds of hours to explain. However what we are proposing is a form of keynesian & hayek economics which would act like pump to keep the economy flowing. This is in contrast to the neoliberal economic system we are currently following. Now it is true some people are saying -Hey this is just a simplified form of what we did in the 60's! and Yes it is, but it worked surprisingly well. And yes, if you are not upper middle class in the next few decades your family will not have the 1970's dream of work hard and make it. UBI and free education (We have free primary education now but that is going away under the current political trend) will help the most cleaver people move up but it is getting harder and harder. Even now if you are smart, work hard, and are born to good upper middle class parents, you will have a fat $10mill to retire on - assuming you don't become an artist or teacher or something equally undervalued by our society. This is because you can comfortably live on far less then most college educated people earn. And you can ~10% per year on everything you have left over while inflation grows only ~3% per year. The more you have left over the faster you can grow. But if you are barely making it, you will never break free. More then likely you will also get caught in the societal traps - after all the poor use less coupons for groceries then the rich, they also spend more on eating out and game systems. I use these as examples because you economic level does not, by and large, change how much you need to eat but poor people pay so much more for food, out of choice. But again that is another topic and has little to do with employment. Back to the original topic, machines have already taken your jobs, they have been doing it for the last 400 years, they will keep doing it because we want it. We desire more for less. The goal of every human I have ever met is to have a comfortable life and do what they want. And machines help us do that. But where we used to pay a person to pick the cotton and another to spin it another to weave it and another to sell it to us, now machines do all of that. I can literally order cloths off amazon that perportanaly had less then 15 minuets of human involvement and soon that will be 5 minuets. I have no issue with this, in fact my job is to build these systems. I have been working hard to automate my self out of a job for 30 years, and will keep doing so for hopefully another 20-30 years. And if we in the US decide to stop automating we will be replaced by those who do and our country will never be able to recover to the same point. And if we move forward with replacing more and more jobs then we can compete globally right up to the point where the entire system collapses from high levels of wealth consolidation. So what is UBI and how will it exist, well if you take an even cross section of america today and look at income we say that no one will ever die alone on the streat for simply not having a job. If you are of sound mind you will get enough money to have a place to live and food to eat. The problem is if we did this for EVERYONE regardless of need it would be SUPER expensive like 90% of the defence budget expensive. So you start looking at how we can do this - oe way is to increase taxes proportionally so that as you reach the top 5% you get a net of 0 UBI. The other way is to increase taxes in a progressive way. Remember the top 0.25% (1/4th of 1% or 1 in every 400 people) of this country make more then the the entire bottom 50%. So to provide support for the bottom 12% would not be that difficult by raising taxes slightly and since it provides a economic inductance it prevents strong wealth consolidation without causing work deincentivisation. Sever countries are trying now. The longest run experiment comes from an OPEC country and they do indicate 8% of those who receive UBI no longer care about working, but so far that is very high as it would increase those who should be able to work, but simply don't want from our current 1% of the population to 2% of the population. But that is better then full economic collapse for certain.
Capitalism has to be abolished and all AIs designed to replace human labor must be in the public domain and un-patent-able for a fully automated society to work. I can’t accept most people living in poverty while some lucky heirs swimming in cash just because they are born to the parents who hold hostage of the automation technologies.
This is the new wave of automation. The old wave was just dumb robots doing manual labour. New robots will take professional jobs. There will be a collapse of supply and demand.
@@demondeity9816 To be fair, it's actually pretty cool and dangerous. I think in the next 30 years we will have age-reversal medication. Making us immortal. Of course, making everyone live forever have dangerous consequences to the planet
@@demondeity9816 That's not so bad. I believe AI can be the greatest and most dangerous invention. In the next 30 years we will have age-reversal medication. Which will make us immortal. But it will be very dangerous for the planet
The last job is scanning the galaxies and what we know about the universe. Living on a spaceship scanning for inhabitable planets. That is if they pick you to leave Earth.🌎 ☀️ 🚀 🌌
+Trigg Ethridge No, the adoption of technology is inevitable. What we need to do is implement an alternative means of widespread wealth distribution to replace the labour for wages model. There is an idea that might work which has been advocated by many great minds over the past two hundred years and it's Universal Basic Income, aka Unconditional Basic Income, aka Basic Income and aka Citizen's Dividend. Experiments with UBI have been positive but we do not yet have a nation deploying it (Switzerland voted against it recently). There is an alternative in use by several countries but with questionable efficacy, that of state sponsored menial employment. Saudi Arabia and Venezuela offers un-necessarily employment through their State oil companies and North Korea uses their armed military as the primary means of distributing wages to the public. To a certain extent, the US effectively distributes over a trillion dollars annually through their military though much of that goes into the military industrial complex hence to shareholders. As to your statement that socialism is bad "cause reasons", what evidence of that do you have. A permanent military is a socialist concept, as are a police service, hospitals, ambulances, electricity grid, freeways, railroads, public schools, public parks, public libraries, water and natural gas distribution. The Soviet Union and China were/are totalitarian government's with command economies. There are no true socialist or capitalist government's and socialism does coexist with free enterprise.
Well, that is the big question : what can we do? Historically we have dealt with situations like this by mass migration, finding some other place to dump the poor and unproductive so that the remaining population can enjoy the newly balanced economy. That will not work this time. People have been trying to think up solutions, but so far they all have too many of their own problems.
The problem will fix itself. Any unsustainable system will break, and an automated world is inherently unsustainable. The real concern is how bad the recovery will be on people who have forgotten how to do anything.
I did a school research assignment on this topic. Prior to it I thought all jobs will be taken over by robots, but after a lot of research and statistical analysis I have figured that this isn't the case. Whenever jobs are lost through technology, more are made to work alongside, or for the technology replacing those jobs, not to mention the extra jobs coming from more luxuries people are wanting such as phones etc. Some stats I found interesting were that while 800,000 jobs were lost due to technology in the past few years, 3.5 million were created from it. Also, the percentage of people in the workforce in relation to total population has stayed at almost the same level for about 50yrs with a slight rise and fall in the way a sine graph is made. Also, one of TESLA's car factories have become completely automated, yet there are still 5000 employees working in the factory. Overall, I think that we shouldn't worry too much about the future of our jobs until it his us, because as much as we try, the only way we can know the future is to be in it, and although the horizon is still a bit blurry, we all know we will get there, and when we do, we will be ready. One other thing... please correct me if I'm completely wrong, I don't mind at all. I know most of you guys are wayyyy smarter than me. :P I'm only 14 anyway. 2023 Edit: Yeah no AI is gonna take so many jobs once it's been refined further and specialised. Was nice to be reminded of what I was watching back in highschool 😂
Just think about really advanced stuff like machines capable of regenerating themselves, or biological machines with the capacity to reproduct, those woudnt need human intervention for anything really
Nope, that trend has reversed in recent times as machines don't NEED humans at all to work. We are basically the horse when the car came about. At first they didn't get replaced but quite rapidly they got all but replaced entirely.
You are much smarter than most people commenting here! They are scared of the future and it's important that we have people like them so the scientists working on it right now will take more concerns into consideration. but an automated future is not going to be bad for humanity.
I am a software engineer researching on automation of software. Basically, I am working towards making myself obsolete. :|
Anshuman Rohella
Ironic, hurdur
the reason why God never appears anymore...
Anshuman Rohella good job sir
HAHAHAHA nice one...
You should make deliberately inferior code so that there's always something to fix.
I wish they did a series. The graphic style,storyboard,sfx and music had me engrossed. A pleasurable watch it was.
so what the story will be then?
You could start with something like "Gatica" and work in a few variants.
All Reuben what he's saying is they should animate a cartoon, not strictly about the video
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it's called BRAZIL check it up
Hawk tuah spit on that thang
about how human killed human .
We already have Shitpost Bot for that. Sorry OP, but you’re fired.
memes are life
Acuvter
Oh you just wait. I'm currently building my D0L4N D4NK 3000 bot that will eliminate all meme channels. It will provide only the top tier level of memes.
Douglas Cartee op chocking on cox
The animation is absolutely lovely tho. The art, the choice of color, and the background music. A terrifying possibility delivered in an absolutely stunning way.
Creatives are possibly the most secure prospectively in context of jobs.
@@shorx9199 Believe it or not, it's just the opposite. Having run the /r/MediaSynthesis subreddit for several years, it's clear to me that it's creative and entertainment jobs that are going first because people fundamentally miscalculated what's required out of these jobs compared to physical ones
Automation in a capitalist system is only terrifying as long as people need money to survive. and people's incomes and health care are chained to their jobs
@@MrHarveyrex23 Automation is only terrifying in a capitalist system*
then it's ai generated art
Weird I thought the last job would be basically "Guy that fixes the robots when they break"
But if you really think about it, even that could eventually automated.
Akito Scorpio yes like doctors help other doctors robots help other robots when their broken
Akito Scorpio yes but what if all the bots that fix bots break down?
But wouldn't that mean that the machines would be self sufficient meaning if they get smarter than us as well.. they could just kill us off.
scary
Ravioli Pocketoly
Well their is a way of out smarting them;) four words electric magnetic pulse wave.
*Corp Tech* - as generic as possible.
Tröpö that’s the point
No it's Corp tech Inc
Tröpö Yea, it's supposed to be as soulless and uncaring as possible, that's the point!
They still didn't tell us what the last job in the world would be...
Fashion Designer.
Ramsey Njire automation engineer
Jobs that involved creativities or emotions e.g all kind of designing related jobs, art, athletes, teachers, actors, comedians,...
Physicist,Mathematician and businessman...
It might have meant that Alice got d last job, and she was fired too
I don't get why, with all that technology and Catbot 2.0, the human kind still have poverty and food production problems. If everything goes bad as the video shows, the problem isn't with the machines...
The problem is that certain people breed irresponsibly without planning out what to do in the future and expect that other who did should cover for them because feelings.
Dzonatan Gavert irresponsible breeding come from a. People who don't care at all (and therefore some supporting/educational system should assist them) ; b. People that have no idea of the implications of putting more people in the world (happens a lot in religious and poor countries). But, even if those people still exist in the future, they are very likely to live together in the same cities or country. And their problems is also everyone's problems. If there is injustice, inequality and poverty somewhere, then it is everyone's responsibility to solve those problems. If you wait the poor to solve poverty alone, or the discriminated to solve discrimination alone and what so ever, you will never get rid of the problems.
> irresponsible breeding come from a. People who don't care at all (and therefore some supporting/educational system should assist them) ; b. People that have no idea of the implications of putting more people in the world (happens a lot in religious and poor countries).
You can bring a horse to a river but you cant force him to drink from it. The drive for improvement has to come from the afflicted, otherwise you're only rewarding perpetual infancy.
> But, even if those people still exist in the future, they are very likely to live together in the same cities or country. And their problems is also everyone's problems.
No. My neighbours problems are his problems until they start spilling over to my side of the fence. Then he has to get his act together and clean up my yard.
> If there is injustice, inequality and poverty somewhere, then it is everyone's responsibility to solve those problems. If you wait the poor to solve poverty alone, or the discriminated to solve discrimination alone and what so ever, you will never get rid of the problems.
There's always some eternal orphan out there. You can't save them all.
Because you can get anything with money. For example it cost Rs 30 to buy 1kg of rice, but it takes days of hardwork, nature sunlight fresh air harvest to make 1kg rice. When the robotic age comes, there will be no one to pay money to. Money will become useless. Because a human needs money. A robot will only need power to run by itself. Whole of economics will collapse.
@@bijoyendrasharma4781 but if money will become useless, why there is rich and poor people on the video? And if the machines can repair and produce themselves without any money in this, why don't use them to give all people a better life?
I mean, the robots could go to the fields and produce food or whatever.
i find it absolutely bewildering that people can imagine pretty much anything being robotic *except* food production................. *why the fuck haven't we created automated vertical farms throughout every major city yet?*
+tonyfalca
Because that would change the entire infrastructure of transport and job elimination, more people will lose their jobs.
Especially farmers will lose on this as well.
I'd like to see these things happen now, but apparently not everyone is aware and educated about this..
So it's likely that Japan will start first with the vertical automated farms so that other countries will catch up to and scale it further..
Morph Verse everybody having food > farmers (or anybody else for that matter) having a job lol
they're already doing this in (iirc) singapore. there are also automated (not really vertical) "farms" back east in canada. but all of this is financially driven :/
Because it is not competitive so there is no need for it atm.
There are greenhouses for vegetables though but this is more so they can beat the competition to market.
NotAsian no need for it? the fact that canada has the 11th largest economy and tolerates a child poverty rate of 14.4%. the fact that out of 35 million 4.65 million canadians are living on average one third below the poverty line... the fact that we spend much more on servicing the debt each year than what is allotted in the budget to "invest" in the country itself. and i could go on. please keep your ignorance to yourself.
tonyfalca
Those stats are irrelevant, vertical farms would increase poverty not decrease it as they are more expensive than conventional farms.
Its almost as if you didn't read anything, its almost as if you don't know the difference between absolute and relative poverty.
Its almost as if you don't consider private investment to be investment.
It is blatantly obvious to me you know very little, the fact you think I am ignorant because I made a very simple statement about why vertical farming does not occur is bemusing.
I thought you wanted a answer, well the answer is because we have better alternatives.
Please don't keep going your reasoning is not as good as you think it is... Is it your reasoning? If it isn't you need to get better sources.
the last job on the planet will probably be the artists.
L'éclectique nope. Google's AI recently painted a perfect impersonation of van Gogh and professional couldn't tell it apart from originals
people will seek out originality and the emotion though, even if the paitings are identical, value isn't placed in perfection, it's placed in what is means to people, the value of a van gogh painting isn't the technical feit, it's what we deemed it brought to art history and mouvement. He isn't internationally acclaimed because he was good, but because of the innovation and rule breaking creativity he showed in his work inspired so many people it changed Art. A robot, not matter how good they are at copying will never be able to replace art, because art is about humanity
Sam Willett
Thats impressive, but technically its not art to do a copy.
Jens Hansen it believe it wasn't a copy and actually was an original. It analyzed every face and brushstroke and used it to generate a new portrait using the features it studied. Obviously it couldn't make its own style or create features from nothing so it did copy the features just an original combo
Maybe, but still not really original.
Meanwhile the porn industry is still doing great
Luis Ramirez sex bots
Luis Ramirez on another note imagine, mandingo ft emmabot 29.....(anal sparks 3)
year 2025; people become aware of how bad porn for the mental health is. about 60% of males will be in the nofap movement. illuminati will kill that 60%
100% realistic human animations, think again
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I think the saddest part is that even though we create the technology to make our lives easy we end up making it even harder for other people .
there is no "we"
Technology alone can't change the world for the better. We need to declare technological progress and nature and its resources the common heritage of humankind if we want to avoid this future.
@Tristan
I agree that ideas and materials should be shared, in a non-harmful way to anyone or anything.
No, we are moving toward a better future.
We can digitally print valuable money and send it to the bank accounts of those who are most vulnerable.
@@UnknownUser.ar1 How about we get rid of money? Since we already produce more than we consume, soon most manual labor jobs will be taken by machines and with abundance for all there is no need for markets, money or countries. It is a possible future.
In the future, this video will look like how the prediction of 2015 in "Back to the future" looks like to us now...
I mean. we already have self driving cars. and some other shit in this vid. it seems like it'll be a reality in the next 60 years
Christian Jiang I hope not. I disagree with this video. And it looks a lot like those 1950s predictions of the year 2000.
+onee I mean, the video didn't make any claims, it was just a short little video to illustrate a point. And probably make people think about the future. What the University prof said is very much a likely scenario tho, robots could take a lot of our jobs in 30 years. They literally already are taking some jobs. If you assume ANY rate of advancement in technology there will come a time when humans do not need to work. Elon Musk has addressed this matter of fact. This isn'tnecessarily a bad thing tho, it could be a VERY good thing. It all depends on how we manage it. I know it can seem kinda scary but it will happen unless humanity wipes itselfout before it happens.
50 years,not likely, but 100 years is a bit better.
Right. Crazier things exist now than what was presented in "Back To The Future". Though quite a few things in that movie are real now. Like video phones (face time, video conferences, and skype).
Robots take over the world and humans retreat into a great simulation to find meaning in life.
The Godfeather Eventually we would stop breeding.
Agreed Male Sentient Void. I saw an animated movie where that happened. A machine called Mother took control of everything and took care of everyone. Humans became so lazy they nearly died out. Then when they realized they had to stop the machine before they did die out they eventually died out when they could no longer fend for themselves after the machine was shut down.
Christy me What film??
Christy me May I ask what was the film called? Seems Interesting
Christy me
what movie is that?
I hate this point of view.
let machines do the tedious tasks, leaving us to be more creative !
Your job is the place where you get creative, nut
If machines do all the work, then how do we get our basic needs met? Is the government going to give each of its citizens an allotment of food/housing/spending money? or is a corporation going to do it?
We are then at the mercy of 'mother government' for survival.
I don't know where this all leads, but it is a conversation worth having, and soon.
We already HAVE creative robots.
No, integrate with the machines so that we receive all of their benefits. I'm not interested in a super-advanced AI running around doing the jobs -- I'm interested in becoming a super-advanced AI.
Why make a machine that is 1,000,000,000x as intelligent as a human when we could just make ourselves 1,000,000,000x smarter?
As Woody Allen said, "I don't want to achieve immortality through my work. I want to achieve immortality through not dying."
Dr. Zoidberg "all of their benefit" you say their like it's a person... I don't want to integrate with robots I want to enhance myself...
Robots: Exist
Andrew Yang: Allow me to introduce myself.
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Let me introduce myself nihilism
I can't believe he went to the Philip's Exeter Academy.
A cautionary tale about humans outsmarting themselves
Johanna Kidd a very underrated comment
Father Elijah our greatest assets yet our greatest enemy. A tale as old as robotics and computers.
Johanna Kidd No way! We will still need doctors to design and build those medical equipment and do research. It would just be an advancement of each job specification i.e requiring more skills.
We're still in the early stages of human evolution and have many mistakes and flaws to learn from. We also need to stop being distant from nature and accept ourselves as who and what we are.
More like a tale about the continuity of greed
What will happen when we no longer have work? Is this really a good thing? Will people really find value in pleasures if they never stimulate their work-reward neural pathway? It could very well be we are working to make ourselves lazy, or worse: psychologically incapable of facing adversity.
333 Studios no, we will become humans who believe they deserve everything because they don’t have to work or earn anything. They’re given money from some government entity just for breathing on the behalf of machines.
I see self entitlement only growing
lmao... There is a life outside your job.
You could become a creative, a scientist or anything you want, by yourself, for pleasure. Because you don't have to suffer from work to have an activity, and no work doesn't mean no activity.
Einstein, Da vinci, Newton... etc etc weren't "working" when they changed our world, they had a passionate activity.
when robots takes jobs, its mostly the ones where you do repetitive and not very creative tasks like working in a factory
its not a bad thing since it gets people out of dangerous areas and it frees up more people to create the next big thing rather than building another tesla for your paycheck
so the people who complain about losing jobs in these areas are the people who are too lazy to go get a education and move up in the world
So... am I the only one thinking of Wall-E after reading that? Cause I'm thinking that's basically what'll happen.
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We are not just automating any work, we automate dull, monotonous work. Creative work will remain, and in fact replace our current non-creative work.
Work/jobs
*“I fear the day that technology will surpass our human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots.”*
-Albert Einstein
Already getting there.
@@LordZontar Yeah VR waifus and stuff
I said that totally
- Albert Einstein
@@LordZontar already are here
Why would there be a laptop in that future? Lol
Why reinvent the wheel
I guess for the same reason you would still get driven to work to only find out your out of work..
Programming
Why do comments pointing out small nitpicks always end in 'lol'
There have been laptops for many years, why will they not survive for the many years to come?
This is a very dystopian view, when in reality this could be paradise. We can choose to fight for an economy that works for all of us. We can be strategic as common people and not let corporations and governments have all the power.
There is no reason to think they'll have no need of us. We the people are far more numerous and powerful than them. When it comes to the point where they are us as irrelevant, then we must choose to see them irrelevant and take, even by force if necessary, control democratically running the means of production. Even in 20 years when half of everyone is unemployed, that's half the population ready to revolt. Capitalism will fail, but rising from its ashes will be a system we democratically choose to live in, a classless, moneyless, stateless society.
Christopher Canon that's anarchy
No, that's true democracy.
Christopher Canon true democracy doesn't work very well, that's why no one uses it, we use Democratic Republics, but that's different. perhaps that's what you meant.
Christopher Canon i think you got your utopias and dystapoias mixed up
This video should be a movie. Please make it Disney or Pixar or etc.
It's really not that good.
Ko Br did you just say WallE was not that good?
WallE was good.
This is happening to me in real time at my current job. My tasks are being automated 1 by 1 that I get or do. We have an RPA Team in house who go through each segment to review their tasks for automation so we can focus on "higher value work". To this day after almost a year, I have received no "higher value" tasks that have been safe from automation. That's just code for being laid off anyway.
enjoy it now you can start to live your life
@@TFx2TV Live their life without income?
@@bluester7177 the more people lose their jobs to automation the more of a need there is for UBI. And the more automation is the more surplus assets there are that can be divided amongst people.
UBI isn't free money, its an investment, as people put the money back into the system. Its cheaper to ration everyone with something than to spend on policing the homeless, the crimes that spawn from poverty and the like
@@TFx2TVUPI is great and all if there wasn't A CHANCE THAT it won't be impacted by CORRUPTION and greed by PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE IN CONTROL OF IT. that sucks. Most criminals most thiefs wouldn't have to commit crime but society wants criminal to punish for crowds applause just like 2000 years ago on Colosseum we are still barbarians at core.
No. You will get nothing, gl with telling this smartypants stories while standing with other people on the street like in this movie.@@TFx2TV
so.. no hookers in the future?
pleasure bots are the future and they are nice to you
People already building them........ they are pretty limited and only experimental sofar tough...
but if you think about it... sex robots will come faster then any other real robot type XDDDDDDD
Better hookers and without std
Without a job you will not be able to afford them.
There's an app for that
We could get peace and freedom to the world with this, but this is not what humans do
Humanity will still fight about something like free the robots or natural resources
instead nations all over the world spend most of their country’s resources on military advancement
we could all unite and do much better stuffs like exploring more of the space and even advance in technology
Charismatic Batman You're right. The US government wasted 600 billion on the military last year. We could've used that money to eliminate poverty and maybe build a moon colony.
It should be. If all the robots took our jobs we would be rich. We would not have to do anything and communism would work. Every one gets equal amount of things since no one is working. And this equal amount of resources would be high because of how efficiant the robots are working basically making everyone up to the upper middle class level, or maybe even the rich class. Poverty would be abolished and with the rapid rate of AI intelligence and its self learning it would be able to destroy sadness in general with humans converting their brain data and their conciousness into a computer simulation where they could be happy for ever. This sounds evil, the world being conquered by robots but in all of reality no one is sad and everyone is free to not choose this. And even if we were forced to live in euphoria who would deny it. Would you deny a million dollars no so why deny that.
Any system where everyone is given an 'equal amount' by some government entity is inherently evil. When if this entity only gives the bare minimum?
Human greatest achievement will be its own downfall ironically.
-Elijah Kamski
elijah kamsaki
The perfect ending to humanity
imo global warming will kill us before that, combine to overpopulation and low ressources
@@JeremieFlo most likey i agree with you
True.... And we are proud of it
What few fail to realize is when the corpotations no longer need us to work for them we will return to what we originally were; makers, artists, and tradesmen. When society no longer tell us what we have to be and do to be valuable we will create ourselves.
Well you can scratch artists off the list, that actually seems like the thing A.I.'s improving upon the fastest, what with Dall-E and Midjourney and such. That was like...5years since your comment, give it another 5 years from mine and I bet they'll start replacing animators as well.
@@Gatlinggunman Why scratch it off the list? This is if jobs aren’t necessary anymore. Of course people will be artists
@@nicole6532 yes but u dont "Need" to be artist to create what u desire.
In the video they show people in a bread line but this video was made by a rich man who fails to understand the poor who would grow food and build or repair homes instead of letting it fall apart.
Unless growing food was banned and if poor rented land instead of renting a house therefore if house went into disrepair they would be responsible.
So I'm a novelist. I write novels for a living. When in the process of writing, I've got it down to a fairly precise and well-defined series of steps. I've deconstructed the art of composing an entire book down to its constituent parts, and the frightening thing is that it's not really all that complicated. In fact, if I team up with a good programmer and refine this process to something more based upon logic rather than "feeling", I could most likely create an AI that will procedurally generate novels based upon prompts given it.
Given that the "spark of creativity" is nothing more than a reflection of my own personality, any artificial intelligence that can pass the Turing Test would likely have enough of a "personality" to write competent creative novels. Given that the basic narrative structure is the genesis of literally all human works of creativity, this means that all media could be generated by machines: music, art, video games, film. It just requires someone who excels at that craft to deconstruct it to produce the program.
Some would say that this would be akin to destroying my own job. But I think of it more like achieving immortality. Accomplishing this would be giving birth to a program that could write novels just like my own, for eternity. All I have to do is input my own personality.
Exactly. You get it. All the great minds of humanity are just that: human. And since the human brain is physical, obviously, the greats of humanity are the absolute minimum of AI potential. The minimum. Einstein, Tolkien, Mozart; all of them will be a baseline, not the pinnacle.
You're underestimating the current challenge of AI -- but I agree that that is the eventuality.
systematic things cannot overcome the otherworldly though. they are a means to the other worldly.
It could also work faster than you.
somebody is gonna watch this in 50 years and joke about it :D
This is the only sure about this clip.
*+Vagelis 4VP* I wouldn't so sure about it. I mean, nuclear world without internet is always an option. Bright future is cool, but shit can always happen.
Sure... all can happen. We just talk about the situation where we havent blow our asses off this planet till then.
I'm sure an AI will write a joke about this in 50 Years
Well, maybe.
Look at how we already think about previous economic shifts. We praise the winners, and either downplay or forget the losers. What will probably happen in 50 years is people on the winning side of the transition will talk about how silly it is, and people on the losing side of it will not have much access to information anyway.
Your ULTIMATE JOB as a human IS to put "technology" to work. ITS job is to provide you with the comfort and the help you need to fulfill YOUR dreams and ideas. The humans who are not creative will have no job ultimately. Constant and mechanical work, providing us with more room for brainstorming, IS MEANT to be for robots, thus we can continue constructing our future more efficiently and much wisely. So, it's ok! ;)
Eric Lee Yeah, but it won't matter because in a few decades we'll all be immortal cyborgs
With the increase in lifespan and human health, birth rates will drop as death rates drop. Population will still be maintained. Culturally however just extrapolating from recent to past few hundreds of years of humanity, as technology grows, human population grows. Current innovations as Tinder is further accelerating human to human contact. So if this continues, technology would only make MORE people fuck rather than less. Whether they choose to have kids or not is undetermined since cultural changes are more unpredictable than technological changes.
Same......Never had a gf. Can't talk to girls. Sucks. They just use me for my brain as a tutor buddy, but I'm always nothing more than a Google. Plus I'm not that good looking either. Kinda smelly too cus I study all day. Don't dress fancy either. Not rich either.
My best friend is myself.
+Eric Lee I don't really see that as a problem. If the tech is that advanced in the future, we may be able to grow a baby in an artificial womb and have the sex-bots store eggs/sperm from those people. So it's still going to be gg.
We're such failures.....well.... at least I can eat my TV diners in peace....
imagine people in the future watching this masterpiece and appreciating it condescendingly.
They will be in space time looking for the next planet
Condescending because the animators thought poverty, corporations, consumerism, and cars would still exist.
aparently...all you need to do in this world is...to LIVE !
but wouldn't you actually be DEAD already?
+Raul you are wrong, existence isnt live
And why can't you just make your life worthy of it? There are already people who hate their job - are they dead to you? You are not simply defined by your workforce.
none human is alive, we are all dead to nature and the world, all we just parasite that consume our planet, so no I can't
Raul well not in the slums
In a fully automated society money becomes obsolete. Currency won't be distributed by labor - then how? That is the question.
That's the question? I think it's more - Why would money BE distributed? And we would simply have more lower classes of poor, just like the rest of the world.
communism. Fully automated luxury communism to be precise.
you dont need money, if theres no people working And "robots" can repair themselves then all you need to do is live And eat, food would be sufficient for all humanity, so why would you hace to pay forma something thats infinite? u dont pay for air anyway
You say communism but it will have to be something else. Capitalism wont work, communism has never worked.
The rich owns 99.99% of properties; though you are born in this society, you are given everything to use, but don't own anything which is depressing.
At some point, we are going to have to have the discussion about what people are supposed to do when the menial tasks are taken care of for us. Are we going to be free to explore our full potential? Or are we to abandoned by the powers that be? I would like to see a world where everyone is taken care of, able to freely pursue their dreams and not become human waste.
not everyone has a grand dream, some people just wanna make money to support their family's
Joe Robertson I would like that too... but by what? robots? would you trust a robot which is more intelligent and powerful than you to take care of you and don't kill you?... even if he isn't more intelligent than you, even if it is just a big humanoid shaped can with a phone processor, that processor can be hacked and used by other people to kill you...I don't say that humans are more less likely to kill you, but humans have empathy (at least 99%, because 1% could be psychopaths) and that thing stops us from killing everyone we see in front of us... you see empathy is a feeling and robots don't feel anything, they are just thinkers , so for them we are just obselete, nothing more.
If we follow the 3 laws of robotics, insure that the robots themselves will reproduce it during the development of other robots, and allow only robots the capability and capacity to reprogram each other following this, it could never develop into this kind of a problem.
all im saying is that they are a simple solution to this problem should we follow them, sci-fi or not.
With economy and other menial 20-21st century problem taken care of, we can aim for the stars with all force, starting by colonizing the solar system
I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN A WORLD WERE CATS ARE MADE OR METAL.
The only thing I fear is I might not be around to experience the future.
Sauce ur-patty Same.
Sauce ur-patty
the future is now. your idea of "the future" is the equivalent of a child's amusement with mickey mouse.
Sauce ur-patty
little secret: time doesn't actually exist. so you can breathe easy.
Same here
What do you mean "might"? Nobody alive today will ever experience the type of future shown in the video.
Bottom Line: the "labor for income" game is slowly coming to an end.
+adub4ever
Given the historical exponential pace of technological progress, it seems like it's more 'quickly' coming to an end.
We certainly do live in interesting times! :D
+adub4ever Boy i'd like that process to accelerate !
+adub4ever i got my fingers crossed and i've had them crossed for the last 10 years. we have the technology to automate pretty much anything, including food production.
+Linguistic Team International
And economists and politicians don't want to admit it.
They are obsessed with creating more jobs after 10 years. while the rest of the world is facepalming how backwards they are.
+adub4ever Slight correction: The "Labor for income" game *needs* to come to an end.
The last job on earth will be to consume products.
If we're talking paying jobs, it's likely that if everything possible will be automated in a company, the last job would be singular entrepreneurs who start new fully automated enterprises themselves without any employees and act as figureheads (before automating the figurehead position and the eventual automation of new ideas)
Update: AI can write papers, music and create art, we are getting there.
technically, the last job on earth would be the person that fixes the machines when they break.
Sorry my friend but Other machines will be fixing those broken machines. So technically, emotionally, practically WE WON'T HAVE ANY JOB LEFT TO DO! :(
but, how about the fixing robot right at the bottom of the fixing chain? we humans would have to fix those.
wrong, i agree with tonald dump though.
Tonald Dump You mean break each other. A broken machine trying to fix another machine could lead to it 'fixing' that machine improperly and if they are all programmed to fix one another if the situation arises, that could quickly lead to almost all machines spoilt. And this has no solution at present either. In fact communicable disease is an example, as our body fighting the disease, to cure itself spreads the diseases to others.
Ethan9750 A functioning machine will be fixing broken machine. Just like how doctors treat other doctors when they get sick. If a surgeon needs surgery he goes to another surgeon that can do the job.
well isn't this similar in star trek where humans are not actually working for money anymore due to advance alien economy (somewhere in star trek movie stated by jean Luc Piccard), so people can actually focus on pursuing a meaningfull career
Like having sex with aliens and creating absurdly strict yet completely arbitrary moral codes and then being perfectly willing to allow the deaths of countless innocents in order to protect these values? Also Space Facism. (They don't have the death penatly, but they use prisoners as forced labour even though the very cheapest of robots (using their tech level) would be a thousand times more effective.)
2:23 Professor of computer science, Rice University..
*Rice University?*
lol
It's a prestigious university in Texas.
This is where Honda Civic owners and Chevrolet Caprice owners go to.
rice is a really good university in US
did somebody say rice. *CHINA*
This is scary watching in 2023
Poverty is caused by scarcity.
How do you have any scarcity when there would be an abundance of all things required in living and being, human.
Would we not thus be free of the need to consume our very lives just to live? Instead would we be free to expand, grow and improve all things while working with intelligent machines in ways we have yet to imagine?
I feel optimistic about automation. Humans make poor slaves.
+mastertheillusion
Not unless economic philosophy evolves with the new technology. Haven't you heard of artificial scarcity? For example there is absolutely no reason for anyone to go hungry in the United States. We produce enough food for everyone. We throw a lot of perfectly good food in the trash. Many stores upon realizing that hungry people were removing the food from the trash, have taken measures to destroy the food before disposing of it.
mastertheillusion Sounds pretty aimless to me honestly. I guess we could explore space, but after colonizing 1 thousand, 1 million planets, it would just be the same thing over and over and over. Land on planet, set up robots, eat food, send some of population off to find another planet.
But then you say we should pursue art and intellectual past times. Imo, not everyone is artistic or intelligent. For me, I find art a bore and could not imagine living to the age of 100 years doing nothing but eating and drawing pictures.
The one saving grace I can imagine is that we take advantage of the cheaper (not free because although labor will be free, natural resources might not be) food and necessities and still manage to have interesting social interactions and family/ community goals based around something.
+Michael Peyton "Many stores upon realizing that hungry people were removing the food from the trash, have taken measures to destroy the food before disposing of it."
That's less to do with it being out of spite and more to do with the 'litigate first' nature that modern western society and is an attempt to mitigate risk and liability.
mastertheillusion if you would be a more intelligent and powerful robot than any human being would you work for them as a slave all your life for nothing or would you rebel and kill them in order to do what you want and to get what you deserve?
malcolm gregor The future will be socialism or not will be a future.
so after all the jobs are taken by robots we can rest 24 7
Sofós Skála
It'll just lead to society breakdown and eventually human civilization. At least now, people still have jobs, so they can buy basic necessities, driving the economy. But in a future where automation is near universal, people don't have jobs, therefore, no income and no savings. This means that no products will be consumed. Current economic system can't work if there's only producers but no consumers. Unless new economic system and policies take place, corporations will only walk toward self-destruction.
What you havent realised is that at some point all jobs and positions will be occupied by machines, even the ownership of companies and political leadership of countries, so the human economic systems will be succeeded by a economic system conceived by IAs
Some of our jobs is part of the purpose of lives. Kind of hard to live in a world with no purpose.
then the people whom don't need purpose will survive and pass their genetic codex, peoples likes psychopaths and other kind of non-neurotypical people who don't fell many emotions
And get no pay whatsoever and become a fat lard with no work ethic... Sounds GREAT (Hint sarcasm)
Tbh, this is one of my most greatest fears. Not the inventions, but the whole 'everything you know, used to, cherish memories into, enjoy, and love all change and move on' thing that brought fear to me.
Hamish Mitty Thanks! :D
I absolutely love this animation and style. Even the music and sound design work really well. Id love to see a feature length futuristic movie like this! Don’t think robots will be able to conceive and produce quality films like this anytime soon.
Isn't that the whole point of having robotics? To have them do things for us?
The catch which isn't realized, is that the faster companies mechanize to save money, the more they displace people, the more they reduce public purchasing power. This means that while the corporation can produce everything more cheaply, fewer & fewer people will actually have money to buy anything, regardless of how cheap they become. The bottom line is that the "labor for income" game is slowly coming to an end. In fact, if you take a moment to reflect on the jobs which are in existence today which automation could take over right now, if applied, 75% of the global workforce could be replaced by mechanization tomorrow.
We need more nukes then.
Mechanization only happens if it is more productive--i.e. you get more stuff with less inputs. That means relatively speaking prices come down. So that means that with lower prices everyone else still working has more purchasing power and that results in more production. What this does is shift the workforce around and also the amount of work that is done. The amount of time people spend working is decreasing over time. Could come a day when we won't need to work. That this has to lead to widespread poverty is not a sustainable outcome.
how about some people who do not have enough money to buy those automation convenience stuffs?
the corporations are willing to give away their money to those people? and even if they want, how exactly they can implement that task?
you are dreaming, idiot. The world is more complicated than some fairy tales demonstrated by the Internet, even if those stories were told by million of adorable cartoon images
The medium does not change the possibility. The reasons we have working ethical principles is because we thought of the solutions beforehand. The opposite goes for the ones that don't work.
In that future the companies/countries would not need money or workforce, but only resources to produce their droids in order to fight each other in war of controlling the earth.
As a civilization we are approaching a time where nobody needs to work; everything can be automated. We need a new system whereby the automation benefits everyone, as capitalism would render everyone unemployed and the machines would work for the 1% not everyone.
+Ferdia McKeogh Sure beats working in a coal mine, meat processing plant, or playing war. Thank you Technology.
+Ferdia McKeogh eh not true, people will work as it is an inherent trait and quality of being human that many pursue. science cannot be automated; nor art and handmade goods by artisans and crafters. automation will benefit everyone, we as citizens just need to demand a more egalitarian society
When the place I work for isnt massively busy I can do 2 hours work a day and still be paid my salary. Its hard to accept that its ok to be paid to do nothing but its all automated and machines doing the labour and this is the way it is now
+Zachary Mahmood A lot of science is already automated. Computers do the vast, vast majority of the legwork, although they do still rely on humans to give them direction and creative input. Computers have also demonstrated a fledgeling ability to create art and music indistinquishable from that of humans, although it is currently limited to only a few formats, and learn through imitation. However, as time goes on, and technology advances, it really is only a matter of time before they become as capable as humans themselves. Technically speaking, you're correct about the "handmade goods", but only insofar as that they are, in fact, handmade. For such to qualify from a machine, they'd have to achieve sentient AI companions with physical bodies, effectively indistinguishable from ourselves (which would be a philosophical nightmare) and those are quite a ways off. (Though not as long as you'd think.)
Excellent and concise comment. After watching this video I was mentally preparing myself to have to go to war with the commenters who are like "OMG STOP AUTOMATION IT WILL BRING DYSTOPIA BECAUSE JOBZZZZ". But everyone here including you seem to be very reasonable and clear-headed, and that's awesome.
Still holds up 8 years later
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perhaps Marxist idea of communism was precisely this. a world where everything is perfectly calculated and everything is equal distributed and produce.
AI was unimaginable in Marxist time. this could be what he was alluding to.
But AI would never work if those crazy ideas of Marx really took place, there's no innovation on this ideas... maybe after the IAs are working but not before, until then let us humans get better with capitalism, when nothing cost anything then the world can be socialist/communist I wouldn't care anyway.
Mozart Prado that's what Ragnarok Sora meant. After the AI takes over the world, communism is guaranteed to be the main economic system, since it would work MUCH better than capitalism. No more jobs, no more need for money.
I know but thats the point only when money and work is no more relevant socialism/comunism could work... when its just irrelevant.
where there are people, there are no balance nor perfection
Its exactly what Marx thought. a world where product output is so great, people dont need jobs and can just live their lives without worry. Capitalism created a world that was kind of like that compared to what life was like before the Industrial Revolution. Efficiency of output so great, there are finally people who just dont need to work.
Also, 65% of today's kids will do jobs that are not even invented yet.
Syllence Why would you want to hire a flawed and expensive human when you can have a cheap and 100% accurate machine
utterly redundant jobs, the suicide rate will skyrocket.
back up what you say or say nothing
Not just redundant, pointless and monotonous and unfulfilling so yes, more little people wanting to harm themselves...
this is hilarious. its like watching a 50s ad for the future of the 2000s. its just humans with their cow brains automating literally pointless tasks.
We wouldnt need money if everything was made for us
currency would still be in effect even if goods are evenly distributed, it would be a way to keep people from over consuming. Plus people like artists would want something for their work (it's great deterant from overwhelming art requests)
Furlow Torent We will need democratic communism. Not a few people decide what goes where, the whole society decides. Then we could do what we naturally desire: Sports, art & free education, insted of working in a system.
+Albert Einstein what you just said is almost equal to Norway.
We need money if we want to buy these stuff like this apartment for example. It's not good becouse a lot of people are going to lose their jobs. But I think it's super cool. We need to think more futuristic. :)
We dont need money when everything is automated. We just need a plan on how to make the distribution of goods and services to everyone.
I say let robots do 100% of jobs. Then we can live free.
Unofficial Overwatch In poverty.
No. The robots would be our slaves. We would never need to work again. You would just ask for a hamburger, and the robot would give it to you, at no charge.
They won't! That's not how AI works!
Wtf... English please...
Knoxx and then finally communism will work as the concept of it! The reason it didnt work 50 years ago was because we didnt have machines to do all he work instead of us, so instead it ended up as dictation! But when humans no longer need to work communism will work! Not only that, we must abandom capitalism because we got no choise..
This toon makers assume that only tech will move forward which is false. Society will have no choice but to change as well toward providing everyone with a certain standard of living and access to the wealth being created by automation of labor. This is our common dream - to be free of trying to make ends meet so we can engage in things we love. When all have equal access to food, healthcare, education, transportation, housing people will have no need to engage in aberrant behaviors that have roots in materialism. This is evident from the famous Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
This sort of society seems like the kind of one that would produce behaviors from people that have roots in materialism. The drawback I see to all of the technological development from the times of metal smithing and farming is that humans have lost touch with the instinctual realm of the unconscious mind
Hahaha. But the robots dont belong to you but to corporations so get à job.
There will always be rich and poor
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With this utopian guaranteed basic income, where is the money coming from. It doesn't grow on trees. The money that the government gives out comes from workers. That's people with jobs. Your head is so far up in the clouds you can't see the ground let alone keep your feet on it.
Jokes on the robots! I dont have, or will get a job anyways xDDD
J.H.H you’re never gonna get a job? So what, do you just freeload off the money of others? Do you just steal the money you want by freeloading on welfare?
No, robots work for him. Nyehehehhehe
J.H.H if I was the president of your country, I would make having a job a legal requirement. You must have a job by law.
So force labour in jail or an actual paid job. You will have a job ether way.
Bluetrainer91 FireBlast THATS GREAT, CAN YOU COME HERE AND DO THAT. SO I CAN LEGIT GET A JOB WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT COMPETITION.
Welcome to the CHAT GPT 4 era
Dude if even the asian Chick gets Fired we white folks are screwed
WatchJojo com stfu you fucking racist hate symbol
Elekris Humor. look it up.
Elekris Wha-what???.
Hosam Alzobaidi No I won't look it up. I know exactly what humor is and I also know that most of the time it originates from the horrid racial consciousness that still plagues this society. That's why I chose a life without any humor; to hopefully bring humanity one step closer to utopia.
Elekris oh no, racist people use that symbol, so if I use that symbol..... Ima racist?. *Gasp*. So according to your logic, racist people, eat l, breath, and live?. So if I eat, breath, and live... Then I'm a racist person too???. *GASP*
If we are to become too dependent on robots, what will so happend when the entire world systems shut down and we do no longer have any idea how to live without our bots to do everything for us?
What about neutrons, muons and pions from outher space that could completely change the coding of a robot and make it shut down (or potentially make it dangerous) as in sci-fi movies. Yes, it is techically possible.
You should also consider that humans needs to feel useful. If robots does everything for us and we are just wacking around doing nothing productive, we'll feel useless and the amounts of depressed and suicides will increase.
In summary, I don't like where this is going and will go as far as to say that the chances of robots being the end of humanity is higher than many might think. Ofcourse this is just speculations, but putting all the factors toghter and robots seem to do more harm than good, and I'd highly recommend being utterly careful with them.
Merlin people will create simulations to feel useful or commit themselves to the singularity. You know when people donate processing power from their computers into a network, it would work like that but with a human brain. This will leave the person in a seemingly dead state but it technically gives a numerical purpose to a human existence.
Sounds depressing to me. When you are so worthless that you have to spend your entire life in a computer simulation. Please shut down those robots before we get to that point ...
You are essentially referring to catastrophic mutation of ai, which can be repaired by humans. It’s just as likely that a human will mutate into a zombie. Either way, it’s not something that we need to worry about, it wouldn’t be in our control.
if aliens did exist then most humans will try to compete to them
Doesnt matter how much robots we make, we will never be fully jobless
you combine full automation with a universal income and omnipresent superintelligence system. You've got yourself the utopian pinnacle of civilisation.
@@flennboyd6413
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after chatgpt annoucement this terrible future looks very probable
This best future
@carkawalakhatulistiwa i guess you blanked out all the horrible stuff going on in the background like the girl did
amazing-how-people-are-still-asking-why-robots-taking-over-jobs-is-an-issue-im-guessing-you-are-all-rich-here
Simple solution: Space communism. Robots do all of the work and humans live in luxury
@Ian Chatfield until we get purged or enslaved by the robots.
demy loayon to bad you work at a job no one wants
if robots did everything, humans would be able live, eat, and do what they want. no need for money if everything is automated
infinite mind until that systems gets a virus
If everything will be automated, it means there is almost no effort in production. It means everything is a lot cheaper (maybe even free) than it was before, including education, healthcare, food, houses, computers, transportation, traveling, everybody can afford almost everything that includes in the basic need of modern society.
+Marat Kairatbek sounds good to me, means i can do scientific research or teaching in the day time, mma training at night, skate/surf and/or write/play music at a club on the weekend, and have decent life documenting all of it for human historical records so my great grandchildren can say what a cool dude I was
except those scientific research, music writing, etc. thingies you will be doing will also be done by robots...
Meaning literally the only thing people will be doing in the future is to sleep, eat, and exist...
And indulge themselves upon hundreds upon hundreds of hours into the internet.
What I find really funny about the people saying "humans won't do anything because robots can already do it better" is that this is already proven false. Computers are now far better at chess than humans ever will be but Grandmaster humans still exist. So to say that scientific research and music writing, things that computers can and routinely are doing better than humans, will still be done by humans... it just won't make or cost money like it does now.
DoomRater Grandmaster humans have already been beaten at chess.
If you need to point out something I just said, you didn't read very closely or understand the point I was making.
"AI is going to replace human labor"
Now: AI attempting to replace human creativity 😬
honestly I was worried and still am about the future regarding automation. But this would be an ideal outcome based on the video where u can literally just live life. It reminds me of playing a video game where u aren't necessarily obligated to do this or that. No goals other than what u make of it.
the last job? Machine builder/architect/constructor
Dante, Swagger of the Burning Abyss
Those jobs can be replace by machines
Those jobs can all be replaced by machines eventually. Yes, even architects. The most basics being that it would be a very "Logical" design to full fill the needs of the building. Some software can even predict trends, so it could possibly even become very decorative in ways that people would enjoy. And of course, machines can build machines, they do it already. Eventually when computers are better at learning, they may be able to research advancements for their own technology to further their efficiency without human interference. And yes, that's when you get the scary realm of what might machines do with that ability.
And business
And RUclipsr.
what about dj and artists. dunno how macjines will make songs we listen to or rave to at clubs. original video game creators? judges? since a human touch is sometimes needed in some cases. dont think every job will be taken unless robots are indistinguishable from real humans in conciousness or creativity.
In a fully automated world, why would people line up at a food bank?
Atrhur Robey do not overstemate human nature for we have boundless potential to screw ourselves and our decendents many times over.
That why idea of universal basic income are more viable than ever.
Wouldn't a fully automated future have some kind of basic income system?
Eventually yes, but probably in the short term..
Because automation keeps increasing till it breaks down capitalism totally..
359 Michaelward It would, but I think in a few decades we will get rid of money
359 Michaelward Why would they need it? we're looking at being able to 3d print organic material as is, The "you wouldn't download a car" has already become almost completely irrelevant. The potentially Scarry shit doesn't start until we reach singularity.
lol, keep dreaming
Automated tech is capital by definition. If every family owns a certain amount of "stock/equity" that is then divided with and among the children as they're born then people would get their share of the production.
Which could also work as a population control mechanism, if there arn't enough resources around then people can't support more children and an ecological collapse can be avoided... A lot of people seem more interested in distributing resources than the survival of the human race and almost every other species on the planet. We're living in a time of mass extinction and people are blind to it.. It's all, can I haz moar?
The future will need regulation if mankind is to stand a chance to survive, nm the rest of the dying ecosystems.
I would love to see this world incorporated into a full length film. So many societal issues to explore and that could be the focus of the film.
They took our jerbs!!!
Deychookourjerbs!!!
They will take most jobs within a 100 years, slow learning humans need not apply.
Even today there are VERY FEW jobs that can be held by somebody with an IQ of 85. As the years go by and AI progresses that number will go up until you'll need an IQ of 130 to hold a basic job and even then the time will come when 150 won't be enough, on and on it goes. A realistic assessment of the future is that it'll be a bleak one for humans.
Well, it's not a "fully automated world", because humans still exist. Why careing for medication or dental health, removing the human would save up so much ressources...... suddenly I can understand the reasoning behind the reapers from Mass Effect.
If you seek efficiency than there is nothing more ineffective and wasteful than life itself.
This is NOT future, it is HERE and NOW!
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A mandatory minimum wage is inevitable
fogeshan are you idiot? Minimum wages incentives the automation.
Mayur Bhedru G R A M M A R
ChatGPT brings us one step closer to this being a reality.
in the future, memes will take over our planet
or the internet
or both
"your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could they didn't stop to think if they should".
I know the last job! Servicing fricken broken robots
2:26 why did i laugh at Rice University
Is this a bad thing? Having time to persue happiness by being able to have much free time for hobbies, friends, etc?
Das Wonderpet not working isn’t good for us. Just like if you pamper a dog so that it no longer lives like an dog, it’s going to be anxious and negatively react because it’s not fulfilling its nature.
Humans have a desire to work. Take that away, won’t produce good results.
Zach Quiroz I don't think the analogy with the dog is correct because it implies work is part of human nature, but who says that? You work cause you must.
If we want to find a purpose in life, that will be procreation, but every other activity has basically no meaning. Passions and hobbies are so special cause you don't do them for profit, etc. They are simply something that you like to do
There's a lot of fear-mongering here, much like what happens with any other technological advancement in history. Anything short of a major calamity (think nuclear war or a massive asteroid impact) won't destroy civilization. People seem to forget that people learn to adapt to changes and no one is going to truly settle with doing nothing for their entire lives. We'll no longer be sitting in a dull office for 40 hours a week but we'll still be busying ourselves with something else that we'll find important.
I'm not one of those people who think it'll usher in some idyllic utopia but it's not going to be all doom and gloom either.
@@Bacontats just go explore the galaxy, its technically infinite, and you can be famous for finding anomalies or new life, and there is really no need for robots to do that
It is if you have bills and other expenditure to pay, unless you can remodel the entire world economy then money is still important for self-security and being able to meet and go out with your friends etc.
This is sad and true and will happen 10-20 years from now. Not some Black Mirror plot.
OMG this is horrible. Less work and stress, and more leisure time for everyone. Im so worried about this....
Not working at all can be very harmful for an adult's psyche.
Rayyan Ali There will always be some work. Just less than before. Perhaps 3 days a week.
Peder because you support communism you commie
Peder With power can come responsibility and blame. Something that can offer good can also offer something bad. Nudge nudge wink wink robots can take over the world.
Peder
Hit the gym
They took her job
2024 ai Art Generators- It seems like the last job on Earth will be the first job to go on Earth. We have underestimated the power of technology
In my opinion, long after AI takes over everything, sport will continue to exist.
No matter how many revoluntionary athletes AI can produce, humans will still be interested in human-only competitions, because any other competitor just fails the principle of sport which is to *test the boundaries of the human body.* Who knows, maybe humans can even learn from the machine techniques to improve themselves.
By expanding this into other areas, it makes sense for many human abilities - cognition, emotion, etc - to exist alongside machines. We still want to look for people who can amaze us with their *raw talent,* something that machines can feel no satisfaction from.
In fact, most of us are driven by our *intrinsic passion* to pursue the jobs we have. Everyone, from the barista to the neural network researcher, should have the right to refuse to surrender their work to an AI, but instead work alongside it, because the joy of doing things and learning is really what keeps humanity moving.
It might not only be testing the boundaries of the human body in the future but competitors who want to show off their newly cyborg mechanical parts or even competitors who transferred their consciousness to a far more advanced android body to test it's limits. Maybe everyone will just dump off their original body given at birth and pursuit an android body that is superior in every way. Nobody wants to be inferior and loses every ball game to competitors with android bodies.
Coming back here (after a few years) from an informative video on GPT-3's capabilities and future possibilities, this hits far too close to home.
We have already created a world where we don't need to work much, yet society continues to push the illusion of needing to be productive forward. How many are already serving jobs without purpose? Will machines just push more people creating meaningless jobs to remain occupied?
are people that scared of machines entering the work force?!??!
Tidal Yacht Society still has need for the medical fields, research and developement , but importantly technicians.
They won't be living on the streets because robots will mine materials, convert them and build houses practically for free. Never having to work again is a good thing, why are people so afraid of it? Try to think outside the capitalist system and free your mind of obstructive patterns
Honeysmile13 I think you missed the part where the lady was examined by a robot. The point is, the technology for automating complex tasks is already in development. Robot technicians will also be a thing, because it isn't that hard to program a robot that diagnoses and repairs others, especially if they can do the same with humans.
People are always terrified of the new
Furlow Torent People are afraid that the new will change their lives faster than the current system can accommodate.
We need Universal Basic Income to get throught automation future world.
So looking forward to this :D
Assuming universal basic income becomes a thing, If on the other hand we continue down wealth consolidation route it will be quite unpleasant for most people and will eventually lead to a disastrous proletariat uprising just like we were found of seeing so often in our history... Oh you romans, always doing it first.. and second ... and third... ;)
Good to hear that someone as you, has learned from history, and has this "vision". It is important what we have to discuss this now, and let our "decsionsmakers" know. Today it seems that most ordinary people don't care.
Yes, power always corrupt the mind.
MySQL it just said machines will take 50% of our jobs in next 30 years , how will "Universal basic income" even exist if a big chunk of demand in workforce has been taken? LMAO unless your middle class(whatever you gross a year) in that time you will not be living so good, we tell yall WAKE UP but yall still waiting for iPhone XI -_-
Out of curiosity - do you enjoy paying $10 for a t-shirt instead for $250? You can thank that automation the luddites risked their lives to fight against. Automation is not sad it is AMAZING! Go ahead and try to live a year without any automation, nothing but had made cloths, shoes, food, the lumber to build something, the car you drive, everything. Automation has made everything better, faster, and cheaper.
The problem with rapid change is it causes a lot of unemployment, which causes a collapse in the economy. How that happens is complicated and something that would take hundreds of hours to explain. However what we are proposing is a form of keynesian & hayek economics which would act like pump to keep the economy flowing. This is in contrast to the neoliberal economic system we are currently following. Now it is true some people are saying -Hey this is just a simplified form of what we did in the 60's! and Yes it is, but it worked surprisingly well.
And yes, if you are not upper middle class in the next few decades your family will not have the 1970's dream of work hard and make it. UBI and free education (We have free primary education now but that is going away under the current political trend) will help the most cleaver people move up but it is getting harder and harder. Even now if you are smart, work hard, and are born to good upper middle class parents, you will have a fat $10mill to retire on - assuming you don't become an artist or teacher or something equally undervalued by our society. This is because you can comfortably live on far less then most college educated people earn. And you can ~10% per year on everything you have left over while inflation grows only ~3% per year. The more you have left over the faster you can grow. But if you are barely making it, you will never break free. More then likely you will also get caught in the societal traps - after all the poor use less coupons for groceries then the rich, they also spend more on eating out and game systems. I use these as examples because you economic level does not, by and large, change how much you need to eat but poor people pay so much more for food, out of choice. But again that is another topic and has little to do with employment.
Back to the original topic, machines have already taken your jobs, they have been doing it for the last 400 years, they will keep doing it because we want it. We desire more for less. The goal of every human I have ever met is to have a comfortable life and do what they want. And machines help us do that. But where we used to pay a person to pick the cotton and another to spin it another to weave it and another to sell it to us, now machines do all of that. I can literally order cloths off amazon that perportanaly had less then 15 minuets of human involvement and soon that will be 5 minuets. I have no issue with this, in fact my job is to build these systems. I have been working hard to automate my self out of a job for 30 years, and will keep doing so for hopefully another 20-30 years. And if we in the US decide to stop automating we will be replaced by those who do and our country will never be able to recover to the same point. And if we move forward with replacing more and more jobs then we can compete globally right up to the point where the entire system collapses from high levels of wealth consolidation.
So what is UBI and how will it exist, well if you take an even cross section of america today and look at income we say that no one will ever die alone on the streat for simply not having a job. If you are of sound mind you will get enough money to have a place to live and food to eat. The problem is if we did this for EVERYONE regardless of need it would be SUPER expensive like 90% of the defence budget expensive. So you start looking at how we can do this - oe way is to increase taxes proportionally so that as you reach the top 5% you get a net of 0 UBI. The other way is to increase taxes in a progressive way. Remember the top 0.25% (1/4th of 1% or 1 in every 400 people) of this country make more then the the entire bottom 50%. So to provide support for the bottom 12% would not be that difficult by raising taxes slightly and since it provides a economic inductance it prevents strong wealth consolidation without causing work deincentivisation.
Sever countries are trying now. The longest run experiment comes from an OPEC country and they do indicate 8% of those who receive UBI no longer care about working, but so far that is very high as it would increase those who should be able to work, but simply don't want from our current 1% of the population to 2% of the population. But that is better then full economic collapse for certain.
Capitalism has to be abolished and all AIs designed to replace human labor must be in the public domain and un-patent-able for a fully automated society to work. I can’t accept most people living in poverty while some lucky heirs swimming in cash just because they are born to the parents who hold hostage of the automation technologies.
This is the new wave of automation. The old wave was just dumb robots doing manual labour. New robots will take professional jobs. There will be a collapse of supply and demand.
The only jobs that humans can take in this future are the creative ones. The ones where our emotions have big influence.
Yet people are making efforts to automate that as well.
It's shameful
That's not true. AI can already write poems, books, do paintings, movies and everything in between. Artists will be one of the first jobs to end
@@AndreVictorGoncalves What a dystopian reality we're crafting for ourselves.
@@demondeity9816 To be fair, it's actually pretty cool and dangerous. I think in the next 30 years we will have age-reversal medication. Making us immortal. Of course, making everyone live forever have dangerous consequences to the planet
@@demondeity9816 That's not so bad. I believe AI can be the greatest and most dangerous invention. In the next 30 years we will have age-reversal medication. Which will make us immortal. But it will be very dangerous for the planet
They missed out the part where she no longer has to sit at a desk working all day, instead enjoying a life of holodeck-fuelled bliss.
The last job is scanning the galaxies and what we know about the universe. Living on a spaceship scanning for inhabitable planets. That is if they pick you to leave Earth.🌎 ☀️ 🚀 🌌
so what are we suppose to do? stop technological advancement?
No...we need to enhance technological advancement, and stop using money as a means of providing a living.
Vagelis 4VP, but that's socialism, and socialism is bad cause reasons
+Trigg Ethridge No, the adoption of technology is inevitable. What we need to do is implement an alternative means of widespread wealth distribution to replace the labour for wages model. There is an idea that might work which has been advocated by many great minds over the past two hundred years and it's Universal Basic Income, aka Unconditional Basic Income, aka Basic Income and aka Citizen's Dividend. Experiments with UBI have been positive but we do not yet have a nation deploying it (Switzerland voted against it recently). There is an alternative in use by several countries but with questionable efficacy, that of state sponsored menial employment. Saudi Arabia and Venezuela offers un-necessarily employment through their State oil companies and North Korea uses their armed military as the primary means of distributing wages to the public. To a certain extent, the US effectively distributes over a trillion dollars annually through their military though much of that goes into the military industrial complex hence to shareholders.
As to your statement that socialism is bad "cause reasons", what evidence of that do you have. A permanent military is a socialist concept, as are a police service, hospitals, ambulances, electricity grid, freeways, railroads, public schools, public parks, public libraries, water and natural gas distribution. The Soviet Union and China were/are totalitarian government's with command economies. There are no true socialist or capitalist government's and socialism does coexist with free enterprise.
John Wang The phrase "cause reasons" usually means someone is being ironic.
Well, that is the big question : what can we do?
Historically we have dealt with situations like this by mass migration, finding some other place to dump the poor and unproductive so that the remaining population can enjoy the newly balanced economy. That will not work this time.
People have been trying to think up solutions, but so far they all have too many of their own problems.
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Did you just predict coppa
The problem will fix itself. Any unsustainable system will break, and an automated world is inherently unsustainable. The real concern is how bad the recovery will be on people who have forgotten how to do anything.
@BOB.org you would have the freedom to do anything tho, place your own goals seek your own purpose, your own meaning, watever.
I did a school research assignment on this topic. Prior to it I thought all jobs will be taken over by robots, but after a lot of research and statistical analysis I have figured that this isn't the case. Whenever jobs are lost through technology, more are made to work alongside, or for the technology replacing those jobs, not to mention the extra jobs coming from more luxuries people are wanting such as phones etc.
Some stats I found interesting were that while 800,000 jobs were lost due to technology in the past few years, 3.5 million were created from it.
Also, the percentage of people in the workforce in relation to total population has stayed at almost the same level for about 50yrs with a slight rise and fall in the way a sine graph is made.
Also, one of TESLA's car factories have become completely automated, yet there are still 5000 employees working in the factory.
Overall, I think that we shouldn't worry too much about the future of our jobs until it his us, because as much as we try, the only way we can know the future is to be in it, and although the horizon is still a bit blurry, we all know we will get there, and when we do, we will be ready.
One other thing... please correct me if I'm completely wrong, I don't mind at all. I know most of you guys are wayyyy smarter than me. :P I'm only 14 anyway.
2023 Edit: Yeah no AI is gonna take so many jobs once it's been refined further and specialised. Was nice to be reminded of what I was watching back in highschool 😂
Just think about really advanced stuff like machines capable of regenerating themselves, or biological machines with the capacity to reproduct, those woudnt need human intervention for anything really
Nope, that trend has reversed in recent times as machines don't NEED humans at all to work. We are basically the horse when the car came about. At first they didn't get replaced but quite rapidly they got all but replaced entirely.
Diego Gonzalez thats where AI becomes an issue...
yet there are still millions of horses... machines don't NEED humans to work...until they do
You are much smarter than most people commenting here!
They are scared of the future and it's important that we have people like them so the scientists working on it right now will take more concerns into consideration. but an automated future is not going to be bad for humanity.