Mishimoto Compact Baffled Oil Catch Can VS Generic Universal Knock Off
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- Mishimoto MMBCC-MSTWO-BK Compact Baffled Oil Catch Can, 2-Port, Black VS generic universal knock off. This is a comparison video between the physical features of both of these oil catch cans, one is name brand, one is a knock off, both are the same
Here is my 6 month review of the can!
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No unnecessary yammering no gimmicks. Straight to the point. Great comparison video. Earned my thums up and sub. Thanks for making this vid.
Thank you! I try to make all my videos as short and to the point as I can!
Its about time someone called out Mishimoto on this.
They are different, if you've used both
@@kjones7270 how
Different when paying the bill
@@kjones7270 You’ve had 2 years to justify your fu*kery… sill nothing?
@k jones you're a bright one 😂
I'm from saudi and I had the misimoto ordered but when I saw this video I canceled and ordered one like the knock off you have ... thank you so much this was so informative. Appreciated
how is it holing up with you so far?
@@abdulrahmanalyahya7018 pretty good.. there is some leakage put nothing a plumbing tape can't fix ;)
@@mohsenalabbas7866 Where did you find ot leaking from?
Can you please send the website link to Order it?
Knock off or you realise mishimioto is pure ebay China marketed well?!
Most likely answer is that Mishimoto cheaped out on production by having a Chinese manufacturer construct their cans, and the manufacturer decided to cut into their profits and take a chunk for themselves by re-branding the exact same parts they produce with a generic label and cut down price. Chinese manufacturing companies undercut their foreign contractors all the time because once they've gotten the blueprints, there's no legal recourse to keep them from re-branding the parts they already tooled their lines to produce.
Can you blame them for that? In my book no. Imagine us consumers being left in the dark and paying their brand's egos while they throw dirt in our eyes by 'made in house' rubbish. No wonder why their economy grows like mad. When your 'own' kind wants to feed their greed, I'll throw them a fist or dirt to push deeper into the grave.
Doesn't prevent American companies from making a better product (if possible.)
People with expensive vehicles will pay for a better product... but only if it exists. Is there a better (American) design that's not being produced?
They were always cheap chinese parts. Just well marketed to you guys in America 😂
@SkorpryoTFC allow me to correct you a little bit.. Mishimoto is not Apple. They don't have design. All they have is a brand. They find a Chinese manufacture who owns the design, and purchased their product, and stamped the "Mishimoto" brand on the product, selling 10x more expensive to the American market. While these manufactures also sell their products to other brands. (They are not selling to consumers directly)
Just paying for the label per everything out here we don’t realize we are buying haha
Love this comparison. More of those
nice review i was just going to buy an expensive one and found this on amazon for £14, great job dude
Thank you very much for the great comparison, it was really useful!
more molecules very much so
I was thinking the same thing. Thank you for doing the work and the confirmation!
Thanks for the review, I used your review to purchase mine. I made a video and mentioned your video in my description! Thanks alot!
Good lookin out bro!!
I couldn’t bring myself to drop $300+ on a Vargas external PVC system.
I went eBay, and after watching this I feel much better
Nice review, short and sweet
Great job I am so glad I didn’t fall for the name product and looked at the similarities thank you for justifying this !!!
Thanx from Germany...after your comparison, I bought the generic universal knock off for not even 20€. It works just fine in my Audi S3 @420HP
Good stuff my guy. I wanted to try the unbranded Chinese myself as I thought exactly what you're describing. But I am doing brakes and tyres this month on my 2011 TTS with 40k miles. Doing them together seems a big bill but it has to be done sooner or later. I am thinking doing a video that I can't find here for some budget but popular tyres that I've seen in a good price. 255/35/19 tyres aren't cheap if you want to go for a reputable brand, cheapest reputable tyres are TOYO PROXES Sport which I know they're good but if tyres with 30-40% less money are equally good why not? Knowledge is power and we should share it. Keep them coming brother. Peace
Great video for those of us who want a quality product at a fair price. Currently the price on Amazon is $25.99 Feb.2021
Great review! Thanks for doing this. I have the cheap kind for almost 4 years now. Recently it started leaking from that bottom plug. The teltail that it's leaking or sucking air is when you see the oil it's catching looks like a milky light brownish fluid instead of this blackish oil That you usually get. Frothing-Thats when fine air bubbles mixes with the oil and gets agitated.
I was very tempted to buy the original Moshimoto model to replace it. But what I did instead is just clean the thread of that bottom plug with acetone, and apply Permatex black gasket maker. Applied it in both the plug threads and the can's threads. make sure no excess gasket maker goes inside of the can. Also applied it to the 2 hose Barb threads. Let it dry for 24 hours as the permatex black gasket maker instruction says. I also replaced the big O-ring, and the two small ones on the hose barbs. Now it works again like a champ with no leak. The two small # 21 O-rings I got from Taylor do it store, and the big one from amazon, dimension 54x58x2( 54mm ID x 58mm OD x 2mm width), or the 54x60x3 also works. they came in 10 pack.
Thanks for the info on this!👍😁
Great video! Super helpful. Will be purchasing the off brand with better fittings.
Installing one on my 2012 Cadillac cts coupe lfx 3.6 , I would take the Tracy Lewis RX catch can but for the meantime this will do versus Nothing🤙Thanks for the info and video!! Good job👍
Mine arrived today, look and feel is great, figure it out tomorrow with install
I would say, in all cases, keep the $15 can. Just go to the hardware store and buy the right size fittings for your application. Maybe cost another $5. $20 vs. $120 is a no brainer.
If they didn’t get so greedy I’d still go name brand…. Say $20-40 more
I love the “I don’t give a shit attitude”. Made for an entertaining watch.
Dude you need to make more videos. Str8 to the point . Awesome
I bought two of the cheap ones. Upgraded the hose fittings to 19mm brass barbs.
Now I’m running dual catch cans at a fraction of the cost. Of a genuine mishimoto
Why not 4 in series of 4 more
Better, one for the PCV, one for the breather, another one for the oil dipstick, one for the oil cap, one for the brake booster, another one for the intercooler, another one for the cabin air filter. The combinations are limitless.
@@Wilhuff_T 🤣
@@Shitbird3249 I’ve never heard of running 4 catch cans
Can you tell me what fittings fit? What kind of thread are they?
Thanks for the video!
Thank's a lot for this video man
The mildly bored tone lends itself well to this. Just checked the knockoff I ordered and it comes with 10mm inside diameter hose and fittings. Thanks for pointing out.
Thank you. No fluff straight to business.
Thank you, that was very helpful.
NEVER saw the sense in paying stoopid $$$$$$$$ for a brand name whatever. Except hard parts like cranks, valves, springs, injectors, intakes, etc. Hell you could even BUILD your own catch can, if you are so inclined. I bought a couple of cheapo ones off ebay. Work perfectly fine, catch all the oil vapor, I empty them out every 3rd or 4th fillup. I also added extra steel wool in the can to catch more vapor. Tried it inits original configuration, then added the steel wool, IMO that made it work much better.
I’ve had the knock off version for two weeks. Works phenomenally.
Billy thanks for that comment was asking my self it really works. U have ppl out here charging $200-300 for something China makes for the same price and sells for less. American companies are seriously a scam. As much as ppl bash EBAY the most high end parts come from them
Hows it holding up
What exactly model is it
Thanx bro... I recently bought an oil catch can from bullboost performance it's exactly da same that those 2 i will try to put it on tomorrow n hope that really do his job. For a 2011 Chevy Colorado 2.9 street race n drift project
Saludos desde Ensenada México
Excellent comparison: Is there a knock off of the better model Misimoto catch can ?
Great video, thank you for the info
Great stuff, Thank you!
Thanks for posting, I just ordered the knock off lol :)
I bought the knock off last year for my Chevy and it works as intended.
Interesting video! On orifice size- flow does not matter but velocity does matter so going with bigger orifices is better because the velocity is reduced and will allow contaminants to drop out.
Great work
The knock off,actually aint the knock off out of them two,but the mishimoto is the real knock off here,they stamp and make it just a little diffrent as you see with the plastic vs alu to safe cost, they buy them cheap and sell them with their brand for a few 100% profit on top,while in reality the name stamped is the knock off product.
This happens with alot of big names and products.
Thank you for the very informative video
Thanks for info whatever you do dont try to sound too excited 😆
good review
Nice thanks for the vid!
Great video!
Almost bought a mishimoto super glad I did not saved me a bunch of money!
turbskibrz so did i
thanks! Buying larger inlets shouldn't be a problem or expensive.
Great comparision! Thanks for this vid.
I have a question: does the bronze filter attaches to the inlet or outlet?
Outlet
Nice upload
Hoses that goes to intake would be the one with baffled right ?? The one with just a hole would be where ccv hose would go in
Great vid
Thanks for this
Nice info! Where can a guy find the push lock fittings like the factory ones on the u tube where we are hooking this catch can up?
Not mentioned but worth noting, the mishimoto comes with a specific mount bracket for some cars. That is added to the cost and ease of mounting to your vehicle. Also, the mishimoto comes with custom lenght and molded/shaped hoses which if like my car, if the hoses were not pre-shaped, custom formed, i would have had nearly no way to route and connect to my manifold. Also, a way to tell if the mishimoto is made in china, im not saying it is or isnt, it will say on the box made in china. I bought mine 4 years ago so i have no box to look at. The companies in china can make product's look 99% like american made products. Thats what they do exceptionally well.
I'm gonna go return Mishimoto one tomorrow thank you $250 saved
Thank you sir
Cheers form England!
excellent
I love it , unmasking them!! 👍
Cheers, you just saved me a lot of money too. I nearly bought a Mishimoto, this exact model, then did a last minute RUclips search, found this video, then went right onto Ali-express and bought the exact same thing for about 1/10th the price. The one I ordered also has the correct (for my car) 1/2" sized hose barb connector bits, and a little drain lever for the bottom to save removing the canister lower half to drain the oil each time. It's such a simple thing, and it saves GDI engines, so i don't know why the auto manufacturers don't include something like this to filter the oily gasses from the PCV -- from factory. I guess if they did, people wouldn't know to empty them periodically and they'd overflow back into the intake...
Hi can you send the link to buy the chinese catch can
The hose connector threads what size are those?
Great video! Would a filter on top help aswell? I seen on amazon same company sell one with a filter. Would that help you in the winter with the water build up?
Christian Dykow them are for if you vent the air to the atmosphere and not back to the turbo and intake. Yes its small but not good for environment, and your losing the gas vape to be re burnt
If you are connecting your CC to your PCV system, you will lose vacuum when you include the top filter. Your engine will stall.
For us Canadians, the Mishimoto would cost about $300 to get your hands onto it, got my eBay unbranded from NJ for less than $100 CAD
Lmao you got ripped off, they're on amazon/AliExpress for 30 bucks
Thanks a lot
Do you think you could por seafoam into the catch can and when the
engine is running it will gradually pull vacuum and atomize the seafoam
into the intake and clean the valves for you?
No I wouldn’t, might ketch fire in turbo, do it at throttle body.
with more videos like this, we will get world peace! - Thanks a lot!
Man, would have been nice for a link to the knock off...as finding the exact one might be difficult with the numerous one's looking similar! Unsure of why some have/need their own breather as well?
Links expire. Just get the cheapest one you find without a breather.
What size ID rubber fuel tube fits the supplied 2 nozzles?
I bought a knock off from amazon that looks pretty similar, only problem was leaking oil from the bottom bolt. I ended up sealing all the hardware with gasket maker and that was an easy fix. Recently I tried to "blow air" with my mouth into one of the hose and tested the amount of air that was getting out from the other side and I've noticed that was surely restricted. Does mishimoto one have the same air restriction of the knock off version?
Don’t know but that would have been a good test!
Look and feels the same. well done good.
BUT ... do both WORK the same? Are both just as EFFECTIVE (..or approximately)..??
Proof of the cake is ALWAYS in the eating.
a cheap version of an oil catcher is not a fake, but a product without a sticker of any brand, mishimoto is just a customer company that buys from a Chinese manufacturer and sells under its own name for 10 times more expensive
You’re a hero.
I've been looking into whether this is something I might want to consider getting for my 2014 1.4L and from what I'm seeing on a Cruze Forum (link here: www.cruzetalk.com/threads/intake-valve-carbon-build-up.232057/) they're saying that this engine is actually port injected, not direct injected, which should mean fuel is blowing into the back of the intake valves and cleaning them off which should remove carbon buildup on the valves that these cans are intended to help prevent from happening. Does that sound accurate? Are there any other reasons you think I might want to install something like this on my car?
@BMO thanks!
Just paying for the name. Does the same job, some, not all👍🏼
Did anyone try installing a catch can on the 2005-2010 Honda Odyssey? Mine has an unusual PCV shape. Please let me know if installing the catch can on the 2010 Odyssey is possible. Or does it even need one? Thank you
Ben Stein? Good comparison vid.
I bought the misimoto catch can and im installing it in my sport civic and its a turbo hatchback i was thinking the knockoff one was bit small for the ports flow.
Nah. Just upgrade to a 3/8's fittings. Less than $10 bucks. EZ
What brand is the Amazon one listed as ? Thank you for the video.
Undranded, they also change.
If i wanted to change the inlet and outlet sizes to a 1/2 inch hose diameter, where could I find some that will have the same thread? Thanks
Dylan-Jon Gardner. Ebay or Amazon
So what you're trying to say is that they're the same?
This is an old video, but what about in winter climates where it gets down to -30C. Are oil catch can fine then or will they freeze?
Yes. But you will find they collect condensation and need to be drained more often.
Rwgards to the sintered bronze filter baffle, does it need cleaning once its filled with oil etc? and how do we clean it? or needs replacement?
a couple of sites mentiomed such filter needs ultrasonic cleaning....true?
Um idk, haven’t had any problems yet
Just spray it with a carb cleaner.
Im still getting quite a bit of oil in im intake should the broze filter be filtering the oli coming in or the air going out
Bruce Miller air going out. Your turbo could be leaking oil too
Wheres the install vid? Looking to add one to my 14 with a GTX250...its pushing some oil out...got a link to the can?
eddiefromcali I haven’t gotten around to it yet!
greetz from germany nice vid
2:34
You mention the threads as being the same on both, but the less expensive one on the right seems to have O-Ring Boss threads (confirmed by the O-ring) which are of constant diameter, and the other (on the left) uses NPT threads which increase in diameter making them snug up when screwed in. The latter needing PTFE tape as well.
(Also the size of the O-Ring Boss appears to be -6AN.)
TheCarMan both did screw into each other but one was a bit lose if i can remember
@@Mr95Kenny
From the video my best visual guess is that Mishimoto uses 1/4 NPT and the other -6AN male. So I checked and found that both have 18 threads per inch and are very close in overall diameter, so they would sort of thread into each other. But if the Mishimoto is tapered (and that's a big IF) they would interchange to some degree but never seal properly, even using PTFE. That would also explain why you felt the fitting to be lose when swapped.
@@Mr95Kenny
I have since my last post acquired an unbranded Mishimoto knock-off catch can and found the threads to be M16 x 1.5 straight thread. You also will need an O-ring to seat any fitting other than the one it comes with --- of course you can simply swap the ones from the unit. I wanted a larger size barb so I Googled for an "M16 x 1.5 to hose barb". Not too many places have such a piece, but it does exist, at least in brass.
@@thecarman3693 I recently put a mishimoto catch can on my car. I've had them before. Somewhere along the line they switched the type of fittings they use. They used to have an o-ring and were designed to be tightened all the way down. With the tapered fittings, the instructions say to not tighten it down all the way. I'm pretty sure they started using the tapered threads to save money on o-rings, believe it or not lol
Very good video, Can you please send the website link for this China Catch Can to Order it.
Link no longer works, just search baffled oil catch can car
What’s the name for the generic one
Buyer beware.The only problem is that it doesn't function the same. Upon further research there are plenty of Amazon reviews complaining about knock off leaking or falling to work as expected. This review is superficial. The higher price tag on M brand is because they had to engineer , promote, and produce while offering a lifetime warranty, so they have to recuperate the investment somehow. Higher overhead means a higher asking price.
Wow. Holy crap
The key words are: BOTH MADE IN CHINA! (4:02). Either you buy one "as per designer specs" at 150$ and you get it in six days, or you buy the "maybe it will work" at 15$, the manufacturing scrap (loose thread, diminished flow...) with delivery in 30 days, your money GO to China! The money will come back to double the price of your house and make impossible for your kids to buy one, or they will pay all their life the mortgage to China. This movie is a very good lesson of political economics! Thumbs up!
I put the cheap knock off on my car and have no issues, it works just fine.
Can someone link the amazon one?
What size hose will you need for the 3/8 size?
5/8
ruclips.net/video/y5q5OAqj35w/видео.html
Do you know the thread size of the in and out?
Cody Clarke M16x1.5
could you post the amazon link for the knock out OCC one ?
@@carlosgandara5976 i have in the past but links change.
the only thing was the difference between the flow tubes .... does it make a difference in this application?
Bigger tube more flow, but on a small 4 cylinder engine it should be no concern.
flow does not matter but velocity does matter so going with bigger orifices is better because the velocity is reduced and will allow contaminants to drop out.
I've always scratched my head every time I seen the photos in the descriptions either which on Amazon or ebay and they all look the same it's just a brand they're trying to sell you
private labelling, buisnesses do it all the time
manufacturing sell their patent to companies to put their label on it, that's is why you see alot of similar products with identical designs.
Yep, Mishimoto is just a cheap arse chinese knock off with a higher price. Thanks for posting this. The mishimoto adds won't show what's inside. That brass filter will clog up in no time. So I'll go with one that has the stainless steel "brillo pad" as a filter as it will flow much better and is able to be cleaned where the brass filter is a throw away. It pays to do some reasearch when you want quality.
I can’t find this anywhere on amazon did this get pulled?
PQY Oil Catch Can Baffled 2 Port Oil Catch Tank Kit Universal Air Oil Separator a.co/d/6oInBQW
Any links