They never use the unique names that decks get, they prefer the more vanilla easy to understand names like 4C Control or Merfolk. We have come a long way from when many decks were named after cereal or other random things like Trinity from the Matrix.
@@flamedragons1 I bet it if you made a deck in modern and called it Golden Grahams they also wouldn't use it even if that became a top 5 deck in Modern. Scam is not a nice word but they typically steer away from hard to understand deck names.
@monopoman I understand why they do this, for the accessibility... but honestly, learning about why old decks are named ridiculous things was one of the many things that drew me to pro magic. WotC is trading in some of the originality and charm, I believe to the detriment of the game
@@matteosannino903 kind of hard to say it's the second worse. The limited format isn't great though and Modern just isn't a good format and has not been for most of its existence.
@@mattiasbjorklund5398 that sounds like an aweful lot of whining...Modern is close to being at its best with a diverse format, the coverage was on point with no down time and quality commentaries, you sound like somebody who has no clue about what they're talking about. Having played multiple PT myself in modern, I wish I had attended this one.
@@simon_gautherin first. modern never was and never will be a great format. Even though try their best to push it with moder horizons it will never be legacy. end, while the match covarage was quite good they did miss a few obvious things. the covarage between rounds is horrendeus nowdays though, they got rid of rich and as much as maria and her friends are trying they aren´t close to be on the same lever, also having matches being recorded and just moving game 1, 2, 3 feels rushed for me atleast, I prefered the old a bit more chill tempo with more stuff in between rounds and switching to other matches during sideboard, made for a better flow and overall better experience.
Thank you for this! It was an awesome PT to watch. Listening to your podcast and hearing you talk about everyone and then see them play was really fun. I was rooting for Pivo and Javi.
If every player put halfling in their deck then it's no wonder it performed very poorly. I predicted as much before the PT and also called Greg orange being the highest ranked of the 4c players
I'm surprised to see Yawg below Murktide and Hammer. While I agree that PT results hold more weight than MTGO challenges, it's worth noting that Murktide and Hammer have been almost entirely absent from top 32s online for weeks now. I agree with these rankings in the somewhat insular PT meta, but I wonder whether that applies to the larger meta which won't be 20% scam.
Hammer was highly outside top 32 because all its pilots did very poorly on limited part. WR of Hammer was very high during PT overall. This + the fact that people stopped overloading sideboard with artifact hate makes Hammer potentially hidden OP for next couple weeks (same situation was with Lurrus ban).
I'm playing burun with 1 stomping ground and more fetchlands because without 4 destructive revelry, using just wear // tear as a enchantment answer x white leyline isnt enough
I agree with the takes on this video. Maybe personally I would argue tron is better currently then rhinos, however im probably biased since im a tron player lol. Big fan of Andrea Mengucci though was hoping to see him maybe make the top 8.
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Anyone else annoyed that wizards arbitrarily changed the rakdos scams name to evoke? Deck names are deck names. We used to get awesome names like frog in a blender. Miss that.
It wasn't exactly arbitrary. Karsten's meta article before the Pro Tour explained why, albeit implicitly: scam is a word with explicitly negative connotations and wotc wanted to avoid referring to a deck with an explicitly negative name. A lot of people complaining about them calling it evoke seem to have missed that their reasoning was given if you look for it.
@DoctorTog and rose by any other name is still a rose. Deck names have a reasons behind them. Sligh for example, was a players name. Also, also if a player builds a breakout deck and names it something awesome, there is no garenty that wotc won't just change it. Being the creator and name give to a deck that does well is a pretty big honor.
@@anhfjdzbxjxisk1929 Okay cool. I was simply pointing out wotc's change was not arbitrary or without reason, as many magic players state it was. I personally dislike that they force guild names and shard names into everything instead of just listing the colours so you don't need to preach to me about it.
My brother used to play his own version of D&T and had very good results with it, he won several local tournaments and then Yorion was banned. His deck never recovered from that and he switched to a different archetype. But of course that just anecdotal experience.
The metagame is basically changed completely after a paper event. That's what i've always thought: mtgo meta is not the reality of things, don't look at it if you play on paper like me, follow what the cards do to your senses
"And also Stefano Vinci from Italy on Temur Rhinos, a very good player" - help me out here. I can't help but hear "NOT" here which sounds like a heck of a bar against a recent top 8 PT player - "NOT a very good player". Is that actually some serious diss on Stefano from Andrea, o was it something like "AND a very good player", but I missed completely on an accent here?
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Funny that a card called Fable of the Mirror Breaker helps you win the mirror.
Flavor win!
i love how not a SINGLE person besides wizards calls it rakdos evoke
They never use the unique names that decks get, they prefer the more vanilla easy to understand names like 4C Control or Merfolk. We have come a long way from when many decks were named after cereal or other random things like Trinity from the Matrix.
@@monopoman Obv scam being not a nice word is the reason.
@@flamedragons1 I bet it if you made a deck in modern and called it Golden Grahams they also wouldn't use it even if that became a top 5 deck in Modern. Scam is not a nice word but they typically steer away from hard to understand deck names.
@monopoman I understand why they do this, for the accessibility... but honestly, learning about why old decks are named ridiculous things was one of the many things that drew me to pro magic. WotC is trading in some of the originality and charm, I believe to the detriment of the game
What an amazing pro tour truly lived up to the hype .
How? Terrible format, winning deck is the dumbest there ever was, multiple Trondecks in the top 8. Basically the worst PT ever.
It was the 2nd worst PT of the history
@@matteosannino903 kind of hard to say it's the second worse. The limited format isn't great though and Modern just isn't a good format and has not been for most of its existence.
@@mattiasbjorklund5398 that sounds like an aweful lot of whining...Modern is close to being at its best with a diverse format, the coverage was on point with no down time and quality commentaries, you sound like somebody who has no clue about what they're talking about. Having played multiple PT myself in modern, I wish I had attended this one.
@@simon_gautherin first. modern never was and never will be a great format. Even though try their best to push it with moder horizons it will never be legacy. end, while the match covarage was quite good they did miss a few obvious things. the covarage between rounds is horrendeus nowdays though, they got rid of rich and as much as
maria and her friends are trying they aren´t close to be on the same lever, also having matches being recorded and just moving game 1, 2, 3 feels rushed for me atleast, I prefered the old a bit more chill tempo with more stuff in between rounds and switching to other matches during sideboard, made for a better flow and overall better experience.
Merfolk OP! :D
Thank you for this! It was an awesome PT to watch. Listening to your podcast and hearing you talk about everyone and then see them play was really fun. I was rooting for Pivo and Javi.
i love this deck overview. surprised how far hammertime has fallen.
when there aren't a million Yawg decks it will return
If every player put halfling in their deck then it's no wonder it performed very poorly. I predicted as much before the PT and also called Greg orange being the highest ranked of the 4c players
I'm surprised to see Yawg below Murktide and Hammer. While I agree that PT results hold more weight than MTGO challenges, it's worth noting that Murktide and Hammer have been almost entirely absent from top 32s online for weeks now.
I agree with these rankings in the somewhat insular PT meta, but I wonder whether that applies to the larger meta which won't be 20% scam.
Hammer was highly outside top 32 because all its pilots did very poorly on limited part. WR of Hammer was very high during PT overall. This + the fact that people stopped overloading sideboard with artifact hate makes Hammer potentially hidden OP for next couple weeks (same situation was with Lurrus ban).
I'm playing burun with 1 stomping ground and more fetchlands because without 4 destructive revelry, using just wear // tear as a enchantment answer x white leyline isnt enough
I have a feeling Tron is going to face a lot more hate going forward, the deck is very strong but we will see how much hate people have for it.
I agree with the takes on this video. Maybe personally I would argue tron is better currently then rhinos, however im probably biased since im a tron player lol. Big fan of Andrea Mengucci though was hoping to see him maybe make the top 8.
Thanks!
So this is basically a Modern Horizon "evoke spells" and LotR "ring and orcs" Metagame...
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Cosa ne pensi? Grazie
Anyone else annoyed that wizards arbitrarily changed the rakdos scams name to evoke? Deck names are deck names. We used to get awesome names like frog in a blender. Miss that.
It wasn't exactly arbitrary. Karsten's meta article before the Pro Tour explained why, albeit implicitly: scam is a word with explicitly negative connotations and wotc wanted to avoid referring to a deck with an explicitly negative name. A lot of people complaining about them calling it evoke seem to have missed that their reasoning was given if you look for it.
I’ve always called the deck Rakdos Elementals. Didn’t like scab. So not really a big deal.
@DoctorTog and rose by any other name is still a rose. Deck names have a reasons behind them. Sligh for example, was a players name. Also, also if a player builds a breakout deck and names it something awesome, there is no garenty that wotc won't just change it. Being the creator and name give to a deck that does well is a pretty big honor.
@@anhfjdzbxjxisk1929 Okay cool. I was simply pointing out wotc's change was not arbitrary or without reason, as many magic players state it was. I personally dislike that they force guild names and shard names into everything instead of just listing the colours so you don't need to preach to me about it.
@DoctorTog I see. I guess my argument is they changed it for no good reason, not arbitrarily. That is fair.
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Go merfolk!
Hammer is back baby
I would put Amulet Titan over Living End as 4th. Only 48% win rate and Nassif went 5-5
If not more over Living End like 4c Omnath and Burn
guess death and taxes is not a thing anymore, is it?
My brother used to play his own version of D&T and had very good results with it, he won several local tournaments and then Yorion was banned. His deck never recovered from that and he switched to a different archetype. But of course that just anecdotal experience.
LFG!!!
So Merfolk is the best deck in Modern??!
The metagame is basically changed completely after a paper event. That's what i've always thought: mtgo meta is not the reality of things, don't look at it if you play on paper like me, follow what the cards do to your senses
An ephemera metagame, before The One Ring ban ??? 😂
"And also Stefano Vinci from Italy on Temur Rhinos, a very good player" - help me out here. I can't help but hear "NOT" here which sounds like a heck of a bar against a recent top 8 PT player - "NOT a very good player". Is that actually some serious diss on Stefano from Andrea, o was it something like "AND a very good player", but I missed completely on an accent here?
Cant believe 5 Color Reanimator is SLEPT ON SO HARD!!! Definitely a worthy contender!! Really wanted to see it in the top 8 😭
Oh come on, everybody knows that the The One Ring should be banned in modern as soon as possible.
Not me, I think it’s fun for the format.
@@bgmephisto enjoy it while it lasts, I agree it looks fun but there is a reason I'm not gonna pick up a set as it is not long for the world.
Need to bann MH2 elemental evoke.
No thanks, bye.
the power ranking is EVERYTHING SINCE MODERN HORIZONS >>>> everything else since up to those..... power creep kinda ruins the format
Well, most parts of Tron existed before, right? (Save for the ring.)
@@laslopanaflex5053 and tron hasnt been viable for a while till it got the ring. and i havent seen a tron without the new karn either.... so ye.
@@dervakommtvonhinten517Karn, the great creator was printed before modern horizons.
Keep playing with the same crap cards for 20 years then, no one’s forcing you to play or keep up with every card.
@@joshuagriffith9191
Still part of the FIRES era…
Modern horizon being part of the FIRES Era
Second
The evoke cards are fun, but too strong for modern. Free spells are also too good with the one ring drawing your deck
How are they "to good"
modern is so garbage right now