I was told by a yeti rep you’re suppose to put the packs on the very bottom and then ice and then drinks on top so that as the drinks melt the ice and it falls to the bottom the yeti ice which is much colder than ice can refreeze the water thus keeping everything colder longer which makes a lot of logical sense and I put it to the test and it is a significant difference! The yeti ice literally turns in to a huge block of ice.
Really? Not a controller and blind test. Why in the world you would use different color of coolers leaves me smh. The white and grey won again in that order.
I agree that this test is insufficiently rigorous. They really should be very clear about the weight of each one. It isn't clear whether this is a fair test. Some commenters asserted that the Yeti ice was 2x2lbs and the Engel ice was 2x5lbs. How much do the others weigh? If they aren't exactly the same, then the results are misleading. Also, were the ice packs frozen for the same duration at the same temperature? That should be specified as well.
All ice packs were the same size Yes, all ice packs were frozen for the same duration in the same freezer. We used a standard household fridge/freezer combo, not a deep freezer.
@@CoolersOnSale Found some RUclips videos on home made air conditioners. They use 5 gallon buckets or cheap styrafoam coolers, a fan, and an exhaust port. This video really put it all together for me, thanks.
I found the information helpful. It would also be great if you ever run the test again or the ice alternative plus ice test to include a comparable amount of ice in a bottle to see how the alternatives stand up to the regular ice. I've seen discussions that recommend the bottle of ice option because in the end you end up with water you drink.
We did run the same test with 10lbs of base ice here: as you'll see they lasted significantly longer: ruclips.net/video/cjBmxgr3paY/видео.html and the full write up here: www.coolersonsale.com/best-ice-packs-for-coolers/
Thanks. I checked out the review video and your web site. Which size Engel 20 packs did you use? That seems to be a great answer for keeping a cooler cool.
Sure touts Engel really hard. I bought the HD30 and it didn't perform any better than my 2 Kodi coolers. Ice melted in less than a full day in the Texas Hill Country heat.
How about polar tubes? Basically, just sealed pvc pipes capped on both ends. Inside the tubes about a half a cup of salt and water. Only filled inside the pip at 80 percent. Than freeze.
To me the ice packs are for like a few hours at the pool or the beach so you don’t have to mess with the “mess” of actual ice, not exactly for keeping ice for days
I honestly would much rather buy the bags of ice because they're cheaper, plus, all I do is hang the end with the plug over the edge of my tailgate and just let the water leak out, they put a drain plug on most ice chest for a reason, you know what I mean?
I think it's kind of crazy that you have him on a cement ground because the heat is going to affect that bottom more than the top and you're going to have heat from both ends. Plus I don't use only two in my cooler and it's just a Coleman cooler and it doesn't go outside and I use about 6 to 7 ice packs in my cooler in my van and they last 5 days at least.
It's not rocket science here. If you're using blue ice, the higher the alcohol concentration in the water/alcohol mix, inside of the blue ice container, the lower the temp the mixture freezes at, and the longer it lasts, and keeps your cooler cold. Straight water freezes at 32 degrees. An alcohol to water concentration of 10/90, freezes at 25F. An alcohol to water concentration of 20/80, freezes at 15F. An alcohol to water concentration of 30/70, freezes at 05F. An alcohol to water concentration of 40/60, freezes at -10F. Considering that most home freezers maintain a temp of about -10F to - 15F, it would seem to me a blue ice with an alcohol water ratio of 30/70 would be ideal. You can make your own blue ice using a GOOD quality (rubbermaid) storage container, water and isopropyl alcohol. You can buy 90% concentration isopropyl at most drug stores. Measure out 70% water, 30% isopropyl alcohol, seal up the container and you're in business. BTW, I bought eight "Gott Blue Ice Weekender" packs in 1981 and all eight are still in use, and we use them heavily in the summer months. They're no longer made, I wonder why?
Rory Gallagherfan There's more to it than melt temperature. When you add things to water, you can lower the melt temp, but you also impact the heat capacity and heat of fusion, which also impacts how long it will last.
How cold did you freeze techni ice as it will freeze as cold as your freezer. Did you have any issue with water/slim seeping out after you hydrated yours? The concept of theirs is so promising, minus that major problem I'm having with mine.
I believe the freezer was set to 4-5°. We haven't had an issue with leaking, but I do feel a somewhat slimy substance on them when they thaw. Is that what you mean?
There are so many different instructions out there. Some say not to hydrate them too much. Mine are really puffy. If you squeeze on them, the stuff comes out. Put it in the microwave and it comes out more. Dry it off and try to take it to the freezer, it gets on your hands on the way. I was so in love with their product, I guess I'm going to go with Cooler Shock now, next best thing. What's the point of using them if it leaks, even a little? Mine is a lot more than a little, such a waste of money.
You used same color cooler twice with artic ice the darker cooler not fair to artic Ice. Only difference in this one is no camo on lid. No surprise the white cooler did better again.
Okay now do a true test where you don't have them on the cement where the sun is beating down and you don't put them in the Sun. Why don't you put them in the grass in the shade and do the test over.
Again, nice try but not a controlled test. The White cooler and Grey cooler wins again. I would like to appreciate the effort but the wasted time of watching another flawed test sorta sours.
is it just me or is it super frustrating that the video doesnt tell you any results and the links below to the website dont go to the results. spent about 10 minutes on the website and just gave up.... come on man....
What's the point in comparing ice packs if you're not using the same make and model of ice chest cooler with all ice packs? Your results mean nothing! Too many variables changed between each cooler brand as we know they are not the exact same! This is in no way a scientific approach! Try again!
Clearly you’re not paying attention, they’re all using the same ice chest and the same size… if you’re not happy with the results you’re more than welcome to try the test yourself. So hop out of here Karen!
I appreciate the effort on this one, but there is no way to know which ice pack in and of itself keeps temps low the longest. Each ice pack is in a different cooler. The different coolers skew the results. If we really want to know which ice pack will keep cold the longest, there would need to be a test with one brand and size of cooler selected as the constant. Each ice pack would need to be tested in the same cooler under the same conditions. I think most of your tests are helpful, however this one gives no clear way to judge the winner. Shoot! So I guess that's my request. Can you do THAT test?
All the coolers in the test are the same 35Qt Engel Cooler. The only difference is cooler color, which we have already tested and shown to have negligible effect on ice retention time.
While David is wrong about the coolers being used he is on to something regarding the test not really being that good. For example, they should have used the Artic Ice Alaskan Series and not the Chillin Brew Series. This is primarily due to how the phase change material works, feel free to research this on your own to understand what I am going on about. In addition it looks like they only used x2 2.5lb (size large) Chillin Brew panels when for a cooler of that size they should have been using 2 to 6 5lb panels ( extra large), split the difference and go with 3 thats basically saying there is 10lbs of ice missing. This test really proves nothing other than the fact that the test sucked. It would be nice to see this test done again using the correct type and recommended amount of phase change material per each manufacture.
Look guys I love these videos but it’s $3.99 20lb bag ice. Buy a yeti pre chill night before then throw the cooler in the fifth wheel and enjoy your camping trip! 🧊🥶🇺🇸
▶ So which ice pack keeps internal temps the *coolest, longest?* This one: amzn.to/2tqE3Nl
✩ RESULTS: bit.ly/2u3VlzY
I was told by a yeti rep you’re suppose to put the packs on the very bottom and then ice and then drinks on top so that as the drinks melt the ice and it falls to the bottom the yeti ice which is much colder than ice can refreeze the water thus keeping everything colder longer which makes a lot of logical sense and I put it to the test and it is a significant difference! The yeti ice literally turns in to a huge block of ice.
They should make a cooler that has removable ice packs that fits the walls
Man, I don't even care about coolers per se, but your methodological approach to testing gets a thumbs and sub.
Awesome, appreciate it!
Really?
Not a controller and blind test. Why in the world you would use different color of coolers leaves me smh. The white and grey won again in that order.
I appreciate your test.
Ah yes… summer is here again we’re I buy random ice packs, coolers, and watch videos
Why someone doesn't make 1" X 1" Ice cube packs beats me? You could fill so much space with them and mix straight with water Ice cubes.
I agree that this test is insufficiently rigorous. They really should be very clear about the weight of each one. It isn't clear whether this is a fair test. Some commenters asserted that the Yeti ice was 2x2lbs and the Engel ice was 2x5lbs. How much do the others weigh? If they aren't exactly the same, then the results are misleading. Also, were the ice packs frozen for the same duration at the same temperature? That should be specified as well.
All ice packs were the same size Yes, all ice packs were frozen for the same duration in the same freezer. We used a standard household fridge/freezer combo, not a deep freezer.
@@CoolersOnSale Found some RUclips videos on home made air conditioners. They use 5 gallon buckets or cheap styrafoam coolers, a fan, and an exhaust port. This video really put it all together for me, thanks.
You put a lot of effort into these videos. Much appreciated.
Thanks for watching Jordan!
I found the information helpful. It would also be great if you ever run the test again or the ice alternative plus ice test to include a comparable amount of ice in a bottle to see how the alternatives stand up to the regular ice. I've seen discussions that recommend the bottle of ice option because in the end you end up with water you drink.
We did run the same test with 10lbs of base ice here: as you'll see they lasted significantly longer: ruclips.net/video/cjBmxgr3paY/видео.html and the full write up here: www.coolersonsale.com/best-ice-packs-for-coolers/
Thanks. I checked out the review video and your web site. Which size Engel 20 packs did you use? That seems to be a great answer for keeping a cooler cool.
came to look at the Engel 20 degree pack, thanks
Now that yeti has the flip 8 I would love to see a lunch cooler review with ice packs. Because no one wants wet pbj sandwiches!!
Love that you do unbiased comparisons. Keep it up!
Thanks for watching!
Sure touts Engel really hard. I bought the HD30 and it didn't perform any better than my 2 Kodi coolers. Ice melted in less than a full day in the Texas Hill Country heat.
What does this tell about the ice packs, when you are not using the same cooler for all the packs?
I wish y’all would bring in a Cabelas polar cap cooler
How about polar tubes? Basically, just sealed pvc pipes capped on both ends. Inside the tubes about a half a cup of salt and water. Only filled inside the pip at 80 percent. Than freeze.
I think I’m just going to stick with throwing five ziplock gallon bags of fridge ice into my cooler.
Try 3/4 filling the zip loc with water and freeze that - no wasted air pockets
It seems that Engel no longer makes the 20F model. Only 5F and 32F.
To me the ice packs are for like a few hours at the pool or the beach so you don’t have to mess with the “mess” of actual ice, not exactly for keeping ice for days
I honestly would much rather buy the bags of ice because they're cheaper, plus, all I do is hang the end with the plug over the edge of my tailgate and just let the water leak out, they put a drain plug on most ice chest for a reason, you know what I mean?
please do a cabelas cooler vs yeti. please please
I think it's kind of crazy that you have him on a cement ground because the heat is going to affect that bottom more than the top and you're going to have heat from both ends. Plus I don't use only two in my cooler and it's just a Coleman cooler and it doesn't go outside and I use about 6 to 7 ice packs in my cooler in my van and they last 5 days at least.
Yes a foam panel should be between the coolers and the ground. Same in the field.
Good info! But why is the mic cord running up the inside of your shorts?
Too cheap for wireless mic.
😂😂
It's not rocket science here. If you're using blue ice, the higher the alcohol concentration in the water/alcohol mix, inside of the blue ice container, the lower the temp the mixture freezes at, and the longer it lasts, and keeps your cooler cold.
Straight water freezes at 32 degrees.
An alcohol to water concentration of 10/90, freezes at 25F.
An alcohol to water concentration of 20/80, freezes at 15F.
An alcohol to water concentration of 30/70, freezes at 05F.
An alcohol to water concentration of 40/60, freezes at -10F.
Considering that most home freezers maintain a temp of about -10F to - 15F, it would seem to me a blue ice with an alcohol water ratio of 30/70 would be ideal. You can make your own blue ice using a GOOD quality (rubbermaid) storage container, water and isopropyl alcohol. You can buy 90% concentration isopropyl at most drug stores. Measure out 70% water, 30% isopropyl alcohol, seal up the container and you're in business.
BTW, I bought eight "Gott Blue Ice Weekender" packs in 1981 and all eight are still in use, and we use them heavily in the summer months. They're no longer made, I wonder why?
Rory Gallagherfan There's more to it than melt temperature. When you add things to water, you can lower the melt temp, but you also impact the heat capacity and heat of fusion, which also impacts how long it will last.
Cool :) wonder what 8 packs would be like.
The Ri works better than the Tundra XL, just sayin' They are 10 Lbs, a different shape, and circulate air naturally by design.
How cold did you freeze techni ice as it will freeze as cold as your freezer. Did you have any issue with water/slim seeping out after you hydrated yours? The concept of theirs is so promising, minus that major problem I'm having with mine.
I believe the freezer was set to 4-5°. We haven't had an issue with leaking, but I do feel a somewhat slimy substance on them when they thaw. Is that what you mean?
There are so many different instructions out there. Some say not to hydrate them too much. Mine are really puffy. If you squeeze on them, the stuff comes out. Put it in the microwave and it comes out more. Dry it off and try to take it to the freezer, it gets on your hands on the way. I was so in love with their product, I guess I'm going to go with Cooler Shock now, next best thing. What's the point of using them if it leaks, even a little? Mine is a lot more than a little, such a waste of money.
You used same color cooler twice with artic ice the darker cooler not fair to artic Ice. Only difference in this one is no camo on lid. No surprise the white cooler did better again.
Why dont you review rtic?
We will be reviewing it in the coming weeks.
@@CoolersOnSale Sweet!
Just a tip. If you're going to show your legs in the shot, maybe don't wire the mic up through your shorts. It looks funny.
Put the ice packs in prechilled water in the cooler
Okay now do a true test where you don't have them on the cement where the sun is beating down and you don't put them in the Sun. Why don't you put them in the grass in the shade and do the test over.
What are the size/weight of those ice packs?
The first one with Techni ice is 2 sheets at 1.875 lbs each or 3.75 lbs total. Really not much for a 35 quart cooler.
1:32 dude, your catheter is showing in that shot, ugh
Well, they say if you can't say anything good, then don't say anything at all.. holy crap, I'm not saying anything at ALL.. XD
Again, nice try but not a controlled test. The White cooler and Grey cooler wins again.
I would like to appreciate the effort but the wasted time of watching another flawed test sorta sours.
is it just me or is it super frustrating that the video doesnt tell you any results and the links below to the website dont go to the results. spent about 10 minutes on the website and just gave up.... come on man....
What's the point in comparing ice packs if you're not using the same make and model of ice chest cooler with all ice packs? Your results mean nothing! Too many variables changed between each cooler brand as we know they are not the exact same!
This is in no way a scientific approach! Try again!
Clearly you’re not paying attention, they’re all using the same ice chest and the same size… if you’re not happy with the results you’re more than welcome to try the test yourself. So hop out of here Karen!
I appreciate the effort on this one, but there is no way to know which ice pack in and of itself keeps temps low the longest. Each ice pack is in a different cooler. The different coolers skew the results.
If we really want to know which ice pack will keep cold the longest, there would need to be a test with one brand and size of cooler selected as the constant. Each ice pack would need to be tested in the same cooler under the same conditions. I think most of your tests are helpful, however this one gives no clear way to judge the winner. Shoot!
So I guess that's my request. Can you do THAT test?
All the coolers in the test are the same 35Qt Engel Cooler. The only difference is cooler color, which we have already tested and shown to have negligible effect on ice retention time.
David Shelton your on the way to your nobel prize mate just gotta see that their all kinda the same damn cooler
While David is wrong about the coolers being used he is on to something regarding the test not really being that good. For example, they should have used the Artic Ice Alaskan Series and not the Chillin Brew Series. This is primarily due to how the phase change material works, feel free to research this on your own to understand what I am going on about. In addition it looks like they only used x2 2.5lb (size large) Chillin Brew panels when for a cooler of that size they should have been using 2 to 6 5lb panels ( extra large), split the difference and go with 3 thats basically saying there is 10lbs of ice missing.
This test really proves nothing other than the fact that the test sucked. It would be nice to see this test done again using the correct type and recommended amount of phase change material per each manufacture.
Look guys I love these videos but it’s $3.99 20lb bag ice.
Buy a yeti pre chill night before then throw the cooler in the fifth wheel and enjoy your camping trip! 🧊🥶🇺🇸