So question, I just bought a 2021 Trek rail 5 and it has the bosche CX motor. I don’t know which chip I need to purchase because when I bought the bike it had a upgraded Bosch Kiox Sport Connectivity. Can you inform me on which one would be best compatible? I would like the advance chip if possible. Thanks again!!!!
Thanks for explaining that the countdown may vary on this video. On mine the '.4' was the only thing flashing and I thought I may have done something wrong.
Awesome !’… I’ve studied your videos and am buying !! But I’m torn between the regular chip and the advanced……do you have preference? Which would you recommend??
Good day, I need assistance with my Trek Rail 7 as the chip keeps cutting out apparently due to the battery heating up when riding in full power mode. Despite not riding in red mode for months, the issue still occurred in purple mode over the weekend. Additionally, there is an orange ring around the unit when the bike is switched on, suggesting the chip may not be compatible with this model. I am unsure how many more times this issue will happen.
Great video! I have a gen 4 trek Allant+ 7S with the high speed motor and 85nm update. Will this work on U.S. Trek ebikes? And will it truly unlock pedal assist up to 75kmh?
I've installed eplus chip in powerfly 4 now speedo is saying 60km when I'm only going about 10km. This means motor cuts out at 25km. How can I fix speedo problem? Thanks.
Hi there, me and my wife both have trek rail 9.8 carbon and there known for play in the battery's as they age due to carbon having zero abrasion resistance it can be managed with foam packing however we have both experienced a few battery disconnects over the past 6 how would this affect the countdown procedure?
The countdown will resume when the bike is turned back on. It will not immediately error if missed a few times but regularly missing or interrupting can lead to an error.
@@EpiceBikes oh that's good then it's happened to me twice and my wife once but I hear people are using velcro adhesive tape with perfect results. Do you ship to the UK?
What happens if the app gets closed. Will the chip still work or is it dependent on the app? My concern is with long term support of a product. Others have installed aftermarket rpm sensors of sorts on the rear wheel to trick the limiter and get around it this way. Again, biggest concern is being limited to an app which may not be around in the future.
If you allow the chip to perform the anti tuning process shown at "9:49/11:19". Then you do not get the 504 Errors, The best method is to just let the bike turn itself off after the rides.
Has anyone that purchased this actually attained speeds of 75Km/h, (46 MPH) with a Trek Rail 5 on level ground? I just received one for Christmas a couple days ago. I can't believe I can't go above 20 MPH ( 32 Km/h )
Coming up to a jump and hitting the cut out is a pretty bad experience. Depends on the shop/service agent some are understanding some are not, Recommended to remove chip before taking for service.
@@EpiceBikes most riders are barely hitting lips or kickers at anything over 20 to be fair so I still don’t get that. Road use it makes sense I guess but I still don’t see a need over 30 which I think is fair. These units are hard wired as well from memory so removing the unit would still show tampering from my understanding. Which in a lot of cases voids warranty (even implied). So I guess my concern is more from that point of view what’s your experience?
@@Therobdog1000 I disagree I often hit jumps well over 25kph, and it is scary when the bike becomes a dead weight when you need that extra pedal before take off.
Most of my time riding downhill is spent well above 50 kph so I can see the idea behind this. But... I’ve ridden bikes that weighed 65 lbs so for me the extra weight isn’t really an issue on the down. This may be because I don’t actually ride an ebike though. So I suspect I don’t actually understand the whole problem.
The purpose of these videos is to show how to unlock the ebikes so they are no longer limited to 25km/h or 32km.h depending on where they are sold. Ride test videos will be created in the future showcasing the differences in performance once unlocked.
Why not? Do you realize how frustrating is continous assistance turning off/on/off during riding with speed ca 25 kph?? And why owner of e bike is limited to 25 kph when owner of road bike is not? What is it? Discrimination?
@@chriskros8858 ya seems crazy, all the different speeds ! My 21 specialized turbo vado sl assistance doesn't cut out till 28 mph , So im curious to see if this mod really does anything or not ?
@@jimbo4203 28 mph is decent speed. 25 kph is for children. Problem is your vado cannot go enduro tracks as safe as enduro bike. And this is the key off road bike is limited to 25 kph on flat area only becsuse going downhill this restriction does nothing oh sorry does sometimes rider is loosing kinetic energy and cannot go uphill fast enough to jump.
Better not try this in france or germany or you will be paid a visit by the authorities . not saying that's a good or bad thing only that they will fine you or worse
@@chriskros8858 Big deal, I ride road and gravel and see those speeds all the time. But your not riding you bike in traffic like a motorcycle. Your not ripping UP a single track.
Battery drain is quite similar once unlocked, The motor is not using any more power it is simply just able to assist all the time. on flat terrain you may reach around 55kph you would only get above that down a slope or with modification of the gear ratios.
Most people don't spend a lot of time riding above the 25kph cut out when limited due to the difficulty of maintaining that speed without assistance. So for most riders the bike is assisting all the time anyway just at a slower speed.
@@EpiceBikes ah i seem. I think of yhia chip as i now im on a ebike i ride the 9 mikes to my local trails and on the road i have to limit myself to the 25kph otherwise its a bit of an effort especially on the way home
❤️ just wanted to say thanks for the replies to my email and the advanced chip, my rail 5 is now awake it’s like tuning a v8 and adding a good exhaust
Good vid. You can let the air out of rear wheel to gain access to the bolts as well as taken it off
So question, I just bought a 2021 Trek rail 5 and it has the bosche CX motor. I don’t know which chip I need to purchase because when I bought the bike it had a upgraded Bosch Kiox Sport Connectivity. Can you inform me on which one would be best compatible? I would like the advance chip if possible.
Thanks again!!!!
Thanks for explaining that the countdown may vary on this video.
On mine the '.4' was the only thing flashing and I thought I may have done something wrong.
Awesome !’… I’ve studied your videos and am buying !! But I’m torn between the regular chip and the advanced……do you have preference? Which would you recommend??
Good day, I need assistance with my Trek Rail 7 as the chip keeps cutting out apparently due to the battery heating up when riding in full power mode. Despite not riding in red mode for months, the issue still occurred in purple mode over the weekend. Additionally, there is an orange ring around the unit when the bike is switched on, suggesting the chip may not be compatible with this model. I am unsure how many more times this issue will happen.
Hi, Please send us an email with which chip you have installed and from where it was purchased and we can assist.
Once you activate the walk feature with the chip installed, do you need to out it in turbo? Or will the full speed just happen with the walk mode?
Show an actual video of the bikes performance
Ride Videos coming soon...
@@EpiceBikes when bro
@@EpiceBikes can you please recommend where I can get it fitted ?
Do I have to unlock my new ebike how do I set my pedle assists so bike will start working
Why does it look as if you cross threatened the front ones?
Where do I buy it I have a 9.7 2022 rail I live in the US
Great video! I have a gen 4 trek Allant+ 7S with the high speed motor and 85nm update. Will this work on U.S. Trek ebikes? And will it truly unlock pedal assist up to 75kmh?
Yes works on U.S bikes and yes unlocks speed limit up to 75km/h
I've installed eplus chip in powerfly 4 now speedo is saying 60km when I'm only going about 10km. This means motor cuts out at 25km. How can I fix speedo problem? Thanks.
Hi Steve please email us and we can help you troubleshoot. support@epicebikes.com.au
Does this void warranty
Hi there, me and my wife both have trek rail 9.8 carbon and there known for play in the battery's as they age due to carbon having zero abrasion resistance it can be managed with foam packing however we have both experienced a few battery disconnects over the past 6 how would this affect the countdown procedure?
The countdown will resume when the bike is turned back on. It will not immediately error if missed a few times but regularly missing or interrupting can lead to an error.
@@EpiceBikes oh that's good then it's happened to me twice and my wife once but I hear people are using velcro adhesive tape with perfect results. Do you ship to the UK?
@@Big2009Gee Yes UK shipping is available on the webpage
Will this work for the 2022 bikes?
It will work for 2022 models that don't have the New Bosch smart system that connects to the new Bosch mobile app
Any plans for the yamaha motor?
What happens if the app gets closed. Will the chip still work or is it dependent on the app? My concern is with long term support of a product. Others have installed aftermarket rpm sensors of sorts on the rear wheel to trick the limiter and get around it this way. Again, biggest concern is being limited to an app which may not be around in the future.
App is only required for first time activation, Chip can be used without the app after that if desired
What is the battery range on all modes when chipped?
Where did you buy the eplus chip from? I can't find it anywhere
epicebikes.com.au/product-category/bosch-unlocks/ currently out of stock due to semiconductor shortages more stock expected towards the end of june
how long does the countdown generally last?
The longer you have ridden above 25km/h the longer it takes, Usually 60 seconds or so
Does this work for the 2022 trek rail 5?
Have a stock bike vs a chip bike in tests
Hey there I just got one for my trek rail 5 and it has woken it up way more assistance and less gear changing
Can I do this to my trek commuter 7+
Yes
Question: Will the dealer know i removed the bosch motor cover ? i kinda don’t want to void my warranty if i’m doing this
If you remove the chip and return the bike to standard form there should be no issues
Are there any motor reliability issues to consider with increased speed?
There is no issues with reliability the motor is not working any harder then before it is just allowed to work up to a higher speed limit.
so just leave the bike on after a ride?
Yep it turns off automatically after sitting idle for a few minutes
@@EpiceBikes So if I stop for say water break and it starts to count down, do I just let it countdown or just start riding?
@@LarryRichelli You can start riding it is only important not to turn off the bike during or before the countdown
doing a good job & like this
Does it work with Kiox display?
Any difference in controls set up?
Works exactly the same with Kiox. This bike has a kiox display
ruclips.net/video/uSmu__jBRvs/видео.html
Thank you, but Bosch give us exposed plugs 🔌 and wires just behind a bash guard. ? Yeah smart
What about the Error 504, which appers in serveral cases with other brands?
If you allow the chip to perform the anti tuning process shown at "9:49/11:19". Then you do not get the 504 Errors, The best method is to just let the bike turn itself off after the rides.
@@EpiceBikes if this code appear it is easy to remove it ?
@@MultiEski You can unplug the battery too remove it or ride unassisted for around an hour.
work on the performance cx line 2020?
Yes works with performance line 2020
Do you have to pay 💰 every ride
No pay only once for the chip and only once for the app if you get the compatible chip
DO you ship to the United States?
Yes free shipping to the US
Can u do this to the rail 5
Yes
No coupon??? I am trying to enter my US phone number in afterpay but it won't accept +1 xxxxxxxxxx How do I enter my US number from Australia?
Hi Mate, Not sure how to enter a US number in afterpay your best shot would be to contact there support team.
Can this be done to the Rail 5???
Yes works on the rail 5
I have the 9.7?
Works on all Bosch CX Motors SO 9.7 Is compatible.
Has anyone that purchased this actually attained speeds of 75Km/h, (46 MPH) with a Trek Rail 5 on level ground? I just received one for Christmas a couple days ago. I can't believe I can't go above 20 MPH ( 32 Km/h )
Most people can get to at least 50km/h on flat ground with moderate effort
I just managed to install it and easily did 43ks on a flat
I’m 55 with arthritis in my knees
Can I contact you? I’d like to pay you to unlock my bike
epicebikes.com.au/contact-us/
Can anyone install these in Canberra? cheers
Hi Mate, We do not have any chip installers in Canberra yet. If you know anyone that may be interested send them our way and we can get them set up.
@@EpiceBikes I am in Canberra, should we have a chat?
Why would you want an eMTB doing more than 25-30kph on a trail anyway??? What happens with servicing and warranty?.
Coming up to a jump and hitting the cut out is a pretty bad experience. Depends on the shop/service agent some are understanding some are not, Recommended to remove chip before taking for service.
@@EpiceBikes most riders are barely hitting lips or kickers at anything over 20 to be fair so I still don’t get that. Road use it makes sense I guess but I still don’t see a need over 30 which I think is fair. These units are hard wired as well from memory so removing the unit would still show tampering from my understanding. Which in a lot of cases voids warranty (even implied). So I guess my concern is more from that point of view what’s your experience?
@@Therobdog1000 I disagree I often hit jumps well over 25kph, and it is scary when the bike becomes a dead weight when you need that extra pedal before take off.
@@jesswah82 that’s a bike handling matter fella.
Most of my time riding downhill is spent well above 50 kph so I can see the idea behind this. But... I’ve ridden bikes that weighed 65 lbs so for me the extra weight isn’t really an issue on the down. This may be because I don’t actually ride an ebike though. So I suspect I don’t actually understand the whole problem.
Is there a way to add a "throttle"???
No way to add a throttle
@@EpiceBikes :( ok thank u!
Since y'all dont talk about any performance gains on your videos or any actual increase in speed, why would anyone want to buy this ?
The purpose of these videos is to show how to unlock the ebikes so they are no longer limited to 25km/h or 32km.h depending on where they are sold. Ride test videos will be created in the future showcasing the differences in performance once unlocked.
@@EpiceBikes yes , good video on installation of the chip, but still no one knows the value of said chip with no details .
Why not? Do you realize how frustrating is continous assistance turning off/on/off during riding with speed ca 25 kph??
And why owner of e bike is limited to 25 kph when owner of road bike is not? What is it? Discrimination?
@@chriskros8858 ya seems crazy, all the different speeds ! My 21 specialized turbo vado sl assistance doesn't cut out till 28 mph , So im curious to see if this mod really does anything or not ?
@@jimbo4203 28 mph is decent speed. 25 kph is for children.
Problem is your vado cannot go enduro tracks as safe as enduro bike. And this is the key off road bike is limited to 25 kph on flat area only becsuse going downhill this restriction does nothing oh sorry does sometimes rider is loosing kinetic energy and cannot go uphill fast enough to jump.
Better not try this in france or germany or you will be paid a visit by the authorities . not saying that's a good or bad thing only that they will fine you or worse
What a stupid law this restriction is..
Well stupid ppl invented it.
Keeps the bikes from being banned on trails and not requiring you to get it licensed as a moped.
@@bindingcurve 25 kph does it?
O.n Road bike I go 40 kph on flat 80 kph downhill so tell me what does this 25 kph solve?
@@chriskros8858 Big deal, I ride road and gravel and see those speeds all the time. But your not riding you bike in traffic like a motorcycle. Your not ripping UP a single track.
@@bindingcurve single track? Always DOWN so...
The linked website has an error when trying to message them, do you have an email for them?
support@epicebikes.com.au
@@EpiceBikes Thanks.
So whats battery drain like id you have it maxxed out at 75kph 😂.. Battery dead in 10 mins
Battery drain is quite similar once unlocked, The motor is not using any more power it is simply just able to assist all the time. on flat terrain you may reach around 55kph you would only get above that down a slope or with modification of the gear ratios.
@@EpiceBikes how can it not drain the battery more if its offering permanent assistance?
Most people don't spend a lot of time riding above the 25kph cut out when limited due to the difficulty of maintaining that speed without assistance. So for most riders the bike is assisting all the time anyway just at a slower speed.
@@EpiceBikes ah i seem. I think of yhia chip as i now im on a ebike i ride the 9 mikes to my local trails and on the road i have to limit myself to the 25kph otherwise its a bit of an effort especially on the way home