I like my semi-automatic .308 Springfield M1A. It cost me $1,550 and took 4 months after ordering it, but I will have it my whole life so it was worth it.
@@chadhaire1711 okay I'll definitely look into that thanks I never knew that about Springfield armory but I will definitely check it out before I make a purchase cuz it's not a cheap gun to buy.
Read Col. Cooper’s specs for a Scout Rifle. The Styer meets them all from weight, length, caliber, sling, bipod etc..The rest are compact and fairly handy but they are not what Jeff would call conforming to spec Scouts. The specs were worked out over many years by an amazing group of riflemen and gunsmiths. But as Jeff said, many things are only made to be sold.
Solid, trueful, and accurate. The scout guidelines were laid out by Cooper. He meant them for solid reasons. Weight and function being being made number one considerations.
Still liking my 40 + year old Marlin 30AA .30-30 w/ 3x 9 Scope with iron sight scope mount..lightweight, easy to maneuver, light recoil, excellent brush and defense rifle. these newer scout rifles are intriguing .... Happy Shooting.
Well as a Firearms and Survival Instructor I've handled most of those arms but the Springfield Armory M1A is my favorite. I've used the Scout rifle but the shorter one you've shown (being fired)was actually the SOCOM16 ....which is my hands down most favorite rifle, ever. I use 130gr American Eagle/Federal Varmint & Predator rounds for CQB training which is the same ammo the USN SEALS have fielded. I've also employed 150gr Speer GD soft points and of course the 149gr XM80 ball rounds. Magazines are available from 5 to 100 round and various stock options including a Multicam stock available from Multicam. With this said the M1A scout and most "scout" rifles in general are way outside the "Scout" parameters set forth by Col. Cooper. But for the versatility of my SOCOM16 and the ability of to employ from Tactical/Combat situations to Survival applications I prefer the Military proven M1A design.
I bought a left hand Ruger Gunsite Scout several years ago.. I put on a bipod and sling and it's been amazing. I also have the Mossberg. It's a good gun also. Both are .308 and they very accurate and a lot of fun.
Wish I had picked up one of the Mossbergs a couple years back when you get them for around the $500 range. If you can find one, their $800ish! Rugers are super nice.
Back in my younger days (1968 -1971) as an Australian, now 71, I found nothing better than a 303/243 converted Lee Enfield convered 303. Some are still available but rare.
Excellent video. I think it's really cool that the scout concept is still getting so much love after all these years. If you think about it the weapon design really does make for the ultimate brush gun. It's the kind of thing that's perfect for hunters who want a versatile weapon they can take with them into the bush and walk around for miles and miles comfortably. It goes without saying that the forward-mounted optics are excellent for not only hunting but potentially a self-defense scenario; it's like the dual-sport of firearms. The reliability of bolt action high caliber rifles, and the maneuverability of smaller carbine-like styles so popular in the age of polymer laced urban warfare. The scout really is a rugged hunting and survival weapon.
I think the Springfield is the choice if the idea of the scout included self defense but I understand that it's a bit pricey as is the Steyr so I'm glad to see that Savage and Mossberg got into the scout concept so most can afford one.
I have three 30-06, one is semi-auto and two .243, one is semi-auto. Over the last two years have easily found ammo for both calibers at multiple stores each month. Our family now have almost 100 rounds for each caliber. One of the 30-06 and one of the .243 are Savage with the improved trigger, both have polymer stocks.
I really appreciate that the products in this add are bridging the gap between design and function the muzzle brakes to the synthetic stocks to the black colors to the military leaning designs. Excellent add and excellent rifles.
Nothing I hate more than affordable guns being extremely ugly, when you don't need expensive materials or manufacturing to make a decent looking gun shape. I want to buy a handgun as my first gun soon, and it's annoying how many of the affordable and reliable models are an irredeemable eyesore for no apparent reason. It's like some manufacturers try to make their affordable guns as fugly as possible to sell higher end guns or something.
I have the Ruger GSR in 5.56, easily my favorite rifle to use. Found a new one at 600 and thought it was a good deal. Now I'm looking at a .308 M1A rifle.
The Springfield M1a is doing an amazing job to keep the platform relevant. AR-10 for the money can give more, maybe a lot more but the truth is the M1a scout is *WAY* better than the sum of its parts. Back to back it feels lighter and just easier to own, shoot, carry, use than the AR-10. As a SHTF weapon to use if you need more power/range than 556 the M1a is up there. And it also doubles as an amazing brush, hunting rifle with limited recoil that can reach out and touch at least somewhat, so practical which isn't common for a "high power rifle" like 308. If you want/need more range you can even get it in 6.5 Creedmoor. It has rails to put an optic on it but IMHO it's way better shooting it with open sights. It just does everything well. Looking at a spec sheet you would never think or believe this it's one of those things where you would never know until you pick it up and shoot it. The same is true for some cars too. Historically there always were those vehicles where you look at the ingredients that seem mediocre: so so engine, ho hum gears, mediocre power/weight, plain jane suspension, tires, brakes many of which might even be out of date etc and say "meh". Then you get behind the wheel and are blown away. The M1A scout is like this and despite its dated design remains as relevant in 2021 as the Garand was in the 30's and the M14 in the 50's on which it is based.
I have both the Gunsite and a SOCOM II. Like them both a lot. For different reasons. That being said the M1A is definitely a repurposed battle rifle. And a great rendition.
It's just about as American as it gets when you get your hands on an M1a. Throw in a 1911 and a cheeseburger and slice of peach pie and you're ready for July 4th
I have had my Ruger Gunsite Scout (.308) for 8 yrs. now. I have purchased a couple of extra magazines (5 and 10 round) and a XS Long Rail with ghost ring for it. I would highly recommend the XS long rail if you want to use a standard hunting scope instead of forward mount optics. It's made specifically for the Ruger and with the ghost ring built in, it definitely adds flexibility to the rifle. I use mine primarily for deer hunting and it's definitely accurate and dependable.
@@cwr8618 I'm hitting 12" gongs at 300 yards, with iron sights, with mine. I can barely see the target at that range. I think a scope would really get you in there.
The average shooter could easily engage targets at 300 yards with a decent optic. And with minimal practicen reach out well beyond that. While longer barrels and other features in "precision" rifles do have some impact on long range accuracy, range is mostly limited by the type of ammo and it's ballistic capabilities more so than the rifle.
@@cwr8618 I really cannot say. Since I use mine primarily for deer hunting, I sight it in 2" high @100 yds. I consistently get 1 -2 inch groups at that distance with a 3x9 scope, and get 2 -3 inch groups with the ghost ring. I have killed one deer over 150 yds. using that rifle. But 99% of the time, my shots have been less than 100 yds. so I really never thought about range. If I want long range, I will use my 22-250 (but not for deer hunting).
Ruger Gss .308 owner here for 9 years. Forward mounted Burris Scout scope 2.75x. Sighted for 150g rounds and will shoot sub moa with BTHP. Definitely my favorite firearm. Interested in getting one in .223 or the M1A
Cooper mearly promoted the scout rifle and added some good specs. My first introduction to a Scout Rifle was the K98 with the forward mounted 4x scope.
In the 70's in a squad in the Australian Army Infantry, the scout 1and scout 2 carry the lightest individual firearm usually an M16 rifle, the rifleman used SLR Fabrique Nacional 7.62, a more heavier and hard to maitain rifle because it rust easily.
The last time I used my stainless .308 Ruger Scout I got a 3/4 inch group @ 200 meters. I handload and got the mix right. I’ve got a Sako .308 and although a beautiful bit of wood and a nice shooter, if I could only have one rifle? It would definitely be the Ruger Scout. 👍
Be glad to do a video on scout optics. I would recommend something along a 1-4 or 2-6 power for a scout optic. Something that can be used at close to intermediate range. We'll put together a list.👍
Scout model M1A, long eye relief 2x7 scope, 20 round box magazine and some M14 stripper clips. Got it zeroed 1.5 inches high at 100 yards with 150 grain Federal Fusion 308 so I can just dead on hold anything out to 300 yards. Perfect for my needs.
@@jonathanseagull.4551 I wanted one for a LOOOONG time and was able to sell a sad story of "a young man's hopes and dreams" to my wife. She's bought it a few times :)
Wish I had picked up one of the Mossbergs a couple years ago....now they're hard to find and if you do, you pay twice what they were going for just a couple years back.
I don't have access to the M14 anymore, and I would really like to scratch that itch, so I hope to get the M1A Scout. I much appreciate the great video. Thanks and Blessings!
Never thought about one of these. I like the look and the light weight. Looks like a good SHTF weapon. I have a ton of rifles now but 90% military. Mostly heavy. I like the 7.62 rounds.
The mossburg seems great that it take the ar mag. But, I think the Styer is probably the most practical for a scout. Integrated bi-pod and spare mag, sign me up. Put a little scope on there and keep it in the truck.
"Scout" rifles have been around for a minute or two...they're called "lever actions." They are also available in just about every caliber that's been made (although, I'm still waiting for some "Tactical-berry" to platform one in .50BMG...That should be fun to watch).
@@stanislavt6376 Springfield Armory M1A rifles are cast crap, nothing but problems. On match ranges they are called "national trash" for a reason. You want an M1A get one made by Bula with forged parts.
I had the Ruger Scout. It is well made. My dislike was that it was picky on what it would shoot well. It likes a heavier bullet. I had the best groups with 165 grn and up. My Remington 700 in .308 shot everything decent. I know it’s not quite apples to apples on the type of rifle, but it’s what I got.
You'll be better off with an AR10 than the M1A. I have been interested in the Ruger since it came out, but since I own a couple AR10s, one of which has a 16 inch barrel and weighs barely 8 pounds, I have a hard time justifying a bolt gun.
You're 100% correct. You get what you pay for on ARs. I think those with bad experiences probably scraped the bottom of the barrel and got the cheapest parts they could find and slapped one together. You pay for a good AR10 from a reliable manufacturer and you can absolutely get sub MOA performance.
The only problem with the Springfield Scout Squad rifle is that it is almost impossible to buy. They are listed as allocated on Springfield’s website. I have no idea who gets them, U S military?, but you cannot find them.
Odd to include a M1A variant. "Scout rifles" are almost universally held to be manual-action. The very definition of one includes low field maintenance and high reliability.
I'd love to get a 110 scout, but I can't find the right setup in 30-06. I have an old Savage Edge in 30-06 and I'm considering having it turned into a scout rifle as it's fairly light weight and a good straight shooter.
Savage model 10 in .308 with a Nikon 3.25x8 long relief pistol scope on top. Took it to Namibia a few years back for an excellent plains game hunt. Deadly accurate….sub M.O.A.
Saw a nice captured scout rifle from East Timor. It was a curtain rod nailed to a fence pailing that shot marbles propelled by match heads fired by Cigarette buts. Was left behind when replaced by victims kit
Cooper’s guidelines are not being followed unless Iron sights, and stripper clip guides, forward mounted scope ( in front of receiver) and 6 lb weight limits, detachable mag. are adhered to. Some are close, some not even close to his designs.
the mvp is substandard, bolt is loose as a goose and numerous sticking points on closing...had to send back for headspacing since it siezed shut on 7.62x51...it isn't light either..stock plastic feels greasy and cheap....i am going to make it work for me tho...doug
The Canadian mounted police chose Tikka T3x Arctic as their service rifle after extensive tests. If that does not justify a place on this list, I do not know what does.
If I remember correctly, the scout rifle in concept has fewer moving parts, with the assumption that you'd be out of touch with anyone who could make major repairs for an extended period of time. Hence the majority of the guns in that category being bolt action.
Semi autos are not permitted for hunting in many places. The typical .223 AR is underpowered for game larger than medium whitetail sized stuff. An AR is more snag-prone in dense brush. An AR is a great fighting rifle, but a lousy hunting rifle. A Scout can be a great hunting rifle, and still be a decent fighting gun. Just depends on your priorities.
Well, "Assualt Rifle" is more a political term, frankly. Scout rifle was an idea that Col. Jeff Cooper came up with many years ago as a kind-of "All-Purpose" rifle. Something that could be used for hunting and defense. Cooper had several specific criteria such as barrel length, caliber, etc. that he included in his idea. www.nrablog.com/articles/2017/3/the-scout-rifle-the-one-rifle-to-have-if-you-could-only-have-one
Currently the market prices are higher than usual, so finding a semi auto in .308, at that $ will be a challenge. I would consider some of the AR platforms chambered in .308. You may be able to find something close, but in today's market, it's gonna be tough.
Century C308, but you would have to shop around now as they used to go for $650. Now I've seen them priced up to $900, but I think people are dreaming since you can buy a PTR for close to that.
@ Unmaxen 00: Getting into a semi-auto/SLR .308 at those kinds of prices is going to be very tough in today's market, unless you get very lucky. Frankly, even three years ago, you'd have been hard-pressed. As others have mentioned, a Century C308 CETME/G3 replica, maybe, and magazines are cheap for those, too, which is always nice. There is one option if you are so inclined and good with tools and gunsmithing: Build your own. If you'd consider 7.62x39 instead of .308, you could get into a nice mil-surp SKS for that amount of money.
What you are saying is that all of the production Scout Rifles are good. There are only 5 in production. The truth is that the Styr Scout is the only production Scout Rifle the late Colonel personally approved of before he died. To the credit of the other makers, the Savage 10FCM was the only other Scout in production and the Late Colonel blew it off as a cheap copy. Only after his students at Gunsite held their own with the Savage did the Late Colonel give it a nod of tolerance. If one wishes to be "Faithful" To the late Colonel but simply will not fork up the $1800.00 for the Styr, then the Ruger is the next best compromise. It was designed with input from Gunsite but even here, Ed Head, the Gunsite instructor who provided the input to Ruger did admit that he compromised the late Colonels standards in order to make it more marketable. Richard Mann, author of the book" The Scout Rifle Study" wrote that the Mossberg was one of the most rugged and probably the best bang for the buck. The M-1A "Squad Scout" Is not a Scout Rifle. One writer who personally presented it to the Late Colonel as "The Scout Rifle he was brining to his class" Incurred the scoff of the late Colonel boldly proclaiming "THAT IS NOT A SCOUT RIFLE!" And loaned him a Scout prototype Named "Sweetheart" For the class. The M-1A is properly referred to as a "Squad Scout" A Scout derivative. A Battle rifle configured as a Scout. This opens up a whole new area where the Squad Scout should have its own book written.
Jeff cooper was wrong about everything......that nonsense about 45 acp being a 90% man stopper, the 7.62x39 being a poor fighting cartridge, the double action being a solution to a non exist problem, the hiring of that phony Chuck Taylor at his school, and this dumb scout rifle that is no better than an SKS.
@@chadhaire1711 And yet, those who use his fundamentals win gunfights. The post Cooper squirt gunners have only fewer bad guys hit, more innocents shot, and property damage through the roof. The .22 caliber poodle shooter has yet to win any major ground battles
Your video was really short on the M1A Scout Squad. I have 3 out of the the bunch and I love the M1A. It’s a bit heavy after I added a scope and such,but well worth it. A real man can handle a couple extra pounds. In the ARMY as “12Bravo /SAPPER ,we had to carry a lot more gear more miles over crazy terrain. Good video though.
Agree about the weight. Personally the size (overall length) is what makes it more maneuverable than some other rifles. 8 lbs (roughly) is not heavy in my opinion.
Caliber is the bore diameter. The 7.62mm is high power, not high caliber. The bore diameter of the 7.62mm is only eight hundredth of an inch larger than a .22 caliber bore.
Most of these are only available with sub 20 in. Except for the M1A which has several models with longer barrels, including 20 inch. They have a National Match model that goes up to a 22 inch barrel.
Who makes Rugers "cold hammer forged barrels"? Cold hammer forged is the way to go, I own a few and have shot a few more. They seem to always perform better.
M1a fails with hardened primers common in milsurp ammo. Better quality springs help, but overall the M1a is a huge disappointment. Might try a Fulton someday.
I like my semi-automatic .308 Springfield M1A. It cost me $1,550 and took 4 months after ordering it, but I will have it my whole life so it was worth it.
@AwesomeByrd I have been looking at the Springfield for some time now and I think I will be ordering myself an early Christmas present.Good choice.
@@polarbear5740 Springfield Armory M1A are cast junk....nothing but problems. Check out the ones made by Bula with forged parts.
@@chadhaire1711 okay I'll definitely look into that thanks I never knew that about Springfield armory but I will definitely check it out before I make a purchase cuz it's not a cheap gun to buy.
@@polarbear5740 Bula forged M1a is $2,000. Atlantic firearms has a few.
I'd like a super match M1A1 for some reason
Read Col. Cooper’s specs for a Scout Rifle. The Styer meets them all from weight, length, caliber, sling, bipod etc..The rest are compact and fairly handy but they are not what Jeff would call conforming to spec Scouts. The specs were worked out over many years by an amazing group of riflemen and gunsmiths. But as Jeff said, many things are only made to be sold.
Solid, trueful, and accurate. The scout guidelines were laid out by Cooper. He meant them for solid reasons. Weight and function being being made number one considerations.
I was a "Scout" therefore any rifle I pick up becomes a "Scout Rifle" E - Troop 1st and 10th Cav 75 to 79 ..19D20
Still liking my 40 + year old Marlin 30AA .30-30 w/ 3x 9 Scope with iron sight scope mount..lightweight, easy to maneuver, light recoil, excellent brush and defense rifle. these newer scout rifles are intriguing .... Happy Shooting.
Yup...I'm of the same opinion. I've got two...30-30, and .44mag...love em.
Well as a Firearms and Survival Instructor I've handled most of those arms but the Springfield Armory M1A is my favorite. I've used the Scout rifle but the shorter one you've shown (being fired)was actually the SOCOM16 ....which is my hands down most favorite rifle, ever. I use 130gr American Eagle/Federal Varmint & Predator rounds for CQB training which is the same ammo the USN SEALS have fielded. I've also employed 150gr Speer GD soft points and of course the 149gr XM80 ball rounds. Magazines are available from 5 to 100 round and various stock options including a Multicam stock available from Multicam. With this said the M1A scout and most "scout" rifles in general are way outside the "Scout" parameters set forth by Col. Cooper. But for the versatility of my SOCOM16 and the ability of to employ from Tactical/Combat situations to Survival applications I prefer the Military proven M1A design.
I have a Ruger and that thing is one of the greatest shooting rifles I have ever owned. A great little hunting gun.
I bought a left hand Ruger Gunsite Scout several years ago.. I put on a bipod and sling and it's been amazing. I also have the Mossberg. It's a good gun also. Both are .308 and they very accurate and a lot of fun.
Wish I had picked up one of the Mossbergs a couple years back when you get them for around the $500 range.
If you can find one, their $800ish!
Rugers are super nice.
Back in my younger days (1968 -1971) as an Australian, now 71, I found nothing better than a 303/243 converted Lee Enfield convered 303. Some are still available but rare.
Enfields are great rifles!
Excellent video. I think it's really cool that the scout concept is still getting so much love after all these years. If you think about it the weapon design really does make for the ultimate brush gun. It's the kind of thing that's perfect for hunters who want a versatile weapon they can take with them into the bush and walk around for miles and miles comfortably. It goes without saying that the forward-mounted optics are excellent for not only hunting but potentially a self-defense scenario; it's like the dual-sport of firearms. The reliability of bolt action high caliber rifles, and the maneuverability of smaller carbine-like styles so popular in the age of polymer laced urban warfare.
The scout really is a rugged hunting and survival weapon.
Well said....couldn't agree more!
I think the Springfield is the choice if the idea of the scout included self defense but I understand that it's a bit pricey as is the Steyr so I'm glad to see that Savage and Mossberg got into the scout concept so most can afford one.
praise the omnisiah for granting us these blessed machines.
I have three 30-06, one is semi-auto and two .243, one is semi-auto.
Over the last two years have easily found ammo for both calibers at multiple stores each month.
Our family now have almost 100 rounds for each caliber.
One of the 30-06 and one of the .243 are Savage with the improved trigger, both have polymer stocks.
I generally stock 2k rounds for each caliber i own. Why only 100?
I really appreciate that the products in this add are bridging the gap between design and function the muzzle brakes to the synthetic stocks to the black colors to the military leaning designs. Excellent add and excellent rifles.
Nothing I hate more than affordable guns being extremely ugly, when you don't need expensive materials or manufacturing to make a decent looking gun shape. I want to buy a handgun as my first gun soon, and it's annoying how many of the affordable and reliable models are an irredeemable eyesore for no apparent reason. It's like some manufacturers try to make their affordable guns as fugly as possible to sell higher end guns or something.
I have the Ruger GSR in 5.56, easily my favorite rifle to use. Found a new one at 600 and thought it was a good deal. Now I'm looking at a .308 M1A rifle.
$600 is very good!
Can you please post where you found it for 600$ im on the ruger page theyr are going for around 1400$ on there
The Springfield M1a is doing an amazing job to keep the platform relevant. AR-10 for the money can give more, maybe a lot more but the truth is the M1a scout is *WAY* better than the sum of its parts. Back to back it feels lighter and just easier to own, shoot, carry, use than the AR-10. As a SHTF weapon to use if you need more power/range than 556 the M1a is up there. And it also doubles as an amazing brush, hunting rifle with limited recoil that can reach out and touch at least somewhat, so practical which isn't common for a "high power rifle" like 308. If you want/need more range you can even get it in 6.5 Creedmoor. It has rails to put an optic on it but IMHO it's way better shooting it with open sights. It just does everything well. Looking at a spec sheet you would never think or believe this it's one of those things where you would never know until you pick it up and shoot it. The same is true for some cars too. Historically there always were those vehicles where you look at the ingredients that seem mediocre: so so engine, ho hum gears, mediocre power/weight, plain jane suspension, tires, brakes many of which might even be out of date etc and say "meh". Then you get behind the wheel and are blown away. The M1A scout is like this and despite its dated design remains as relevant in 2021 as the Garand was in the 30's and the M14 in the 50's on which it is based.
Well said👍
I have both the Gunsite and a SOCOM II. Like them both a lot.
For different reasons. That being said the M1A is definitely a repurposed battle rifle. And a great rendition.
Two awesome rifles. The SOCOM is near the top of my list to pick up.👍
The ability to load from strippers is underrated and not well understood.
It's just about as American as it gets when you get your hands on an M1a. Throw in a 1911 and a cheeseburger and slice of peach pie and you're ready for July 4th
I have had my Ruger Gunsite Scout (.308) for 8 yrs. now. I have purchased a couple of extra magazines (5 and 10 round) and a XS Long Rail with ghost ring for it. I would highly recommend the XS long rail if you want to use a standard hunting scope instead of forward mount optics. It's made specifically for the Ruger and with the ghost ring built in, it definitely adds flexibility to the rifle. I use mine primarily for deer hunting and it's definitely accurate and dependable.
The XS rail was a great add on. Really makes the rifle versatile.
What kind of range can you get effectively?
@@cwr8618 I'm hitting 12" gongs at 300 yards, with iron sights, with mine. I can barely see the target at that range. I think a scope would really get you in there.
The average shooter could easily engage targets at 300 yards with a decent optic. And with minimal practicen reach out well beyond that.
While longer barrels and other features in "precision" rifles do have some impact on long range accuracy, range is mostly limited by the type of ammo and it's ballistic capabilities more so than the rifle.
@@cwr8618 I really cannot say. Since I use mine primarily for deer hunting, I sight it in 2" high @100 yds. I consistently get 1 -2 inch groups at that distance with a 3x9 scope, and get 2 -3 inch groups with the ghost ring. I have killed one deer over 150 yds. using that rifle. But 99% of the time, my shots have been less than 100 yds. so I really never thought about range. If I want long range, I will use my 22-250 (but not for deer hunting).
Ruger Gss .308 owner here for 9 years.
Forward mounted Burris Scout scope 2.75x. Sighted for 150g rounds and will shoot sub moa with BTHP. Definitely my favorite firearm. Interested in getting one in .223 or the M1A
Cooper mearly promoted the scout rifle and added some good specs. My first introduction to a Scout Rifle was the K98 with the forward mounted 4x scope.
Never fired a K98 but always wanted to.
@@HighlandOutdoorGear smooth action.
In the 70's in a squad in the Australian Army Infantry, the scout 1and scout 2 carry the lightest individual firearm usually an M16 rifle, the rifleman used SLR Fabrique Nacional 7.62, a more heavier and hard to maitain rifle because it rust easily.
The last time I used my stainless .308 Ruger Scout I got a 3/4 inch group @ 200 meters. I handload and got the mix right. I’ve got a Sako .308 and although a beautiful bit of wood and a nice shooter, if I could only have one rifle? It would definitely be the Ruger Scout. 👍
The Browning BAR MkIII dbm hits all the marks for a the only scout rifle I need.
OMG I Love Mossberg and 308, and ghost view and bolt, carbon steel and….. I think Im in Love! Gotta try this baby…
Have fun!
Ohhh Yeahhh!
I like the fact that my pilot did the commentary
Great video. Can you make a video on your Top 5 Scout scopes? Or is a red dot sight better for a scout rifle?
Be glad to do a video on scout optics.
I would recommend something along a 1-4 or 2-6 power for a scout optic. Something that can be used at close to intermediate range.
We'll put together a list.👍
M1A photo is a Scout Squad, however, the very brief video shows a SOCOM 16 FYI...
Scout model M1A, long eye relief 2x7 scope, 20 round box magazine and some M14 stripper clips. Got it zeroed 1.5 inches high at 100 yards with 150 grain Federal Fusion 308 so I can just dead on hold anything out to 300 yards. Perfect for my needs.
On the Surplus side I will carry on with my SKS
I dream that one day I will own a Springfield Scout Squad
They are great rifles. Supply for everything is still behind, but hopefully supply will increase and prices will go back down.
Love my M1A1 scout squad!
I like my Springfield M1A1 SOCOM in .308.
I want one of those.
@@jonathanseagull.4551 I wanted one for a LOOOONG time and was able to sell a sad story of "a young man's hopes and dreams" to my wife. She's bought it a few times :)
I have two (Mossberg & M1A) and love them both.
Wish I had picked up one of the Mossbergs a couple years ago....now they're hard to find and if you do, you pay twice what they were going for just a couple years back.
I have the Ruger Gunsite Scout in 308win. My favorite firearm that I own. Accuracy is ridiculous.
Love how the guy with the Ruger stuck his pinky in the chamber to make sure it was clear before closing the bolt. Safety first.
I don't have access to the M14 anymore, and I would really like to scratch that itch, so I hope to get the M1A Scout. I much appreciate the great video. Thanks and Blessings!
I really want all of these, they all good rifles, But for the money, I'll stick with my Mini-30 for brush work.
One of the best rifles ever.. 👍
Never thought about one of these. I like the look and the light weight. Looks like a good SHTF weapon. I have a ton of rifles now but 90% military. Mostly heavy. I like the 7.62 rounds.
Really like the scout rifle. Planning on getting one...
The mossburg seems great that it take the ar mag. But, I think the Styer is probably the most practical for a scout. Integrated bi-pod and spare mag, sign me up. Put a little scope on there and keep it in the truck.
"Scout" rifles have been around for a minute or two...they're called "lever actions." They are also available in just about every caliber that's been made (although, I'm still waiting for some "Tactical-berry" to platform one in .50BMG...That should be fun to watch).
Beautiful M1A !!!!
junk
@@chadhaire1711 Somebody this rifle is junk, but somebody is the treasure!
@@stanislavt6376 Springfield Armory M1A rifles are cast crap, nothing but problems. On match ranges they are called "national trash" for a reason. You want an M1A get one made by Bula with forged parts.
@@chadhaire1711 Thanks for the tip!!
@@stanislavt6376 Atlantic Firearms might have them in stock
Until Springfield gets it's shit together with quality control, I think I'll stick with the Ruger. I can be fast enough with a bolt gun
I had the Ruger Scout. It is well made. My dislike was that it was picky on what it would shoot well. It likes a heavier bullet. I had the best groups with 165 grn and up. My Remington 700 in .308 shot everything decent. I know it’s not quite apples to apples on the type of rifle, but it’s what I got.
I have the Ruger Scout 308.
Mossberg MVP 223
Springfield M1A 308.
Nice! All 3 are great rifles.
Love the scout squad a little pricey but can't go wrong.
Also love their SOCOM model.
I was surprised at the price, I bought a walnut stock scout squad a few years back for $1300.
Those wooden stocks look really nice!
You'll be better off with an AR10 than the M1A. I have been interested in the Ruger since it came out, but since I own a couple AR10s, one of which has a 16 inch barrel and weighs barely 8 pounds, I have a hard time justifying a bolt gun.
Shit, I want them all. Too many I’d never enough and all variants are welcome 🤣
The ar platform is also much more precise and accurate than people realize. Have many sub moa rifles
You're 100% correct. You get what you pay for on ARs. I think those with bad experiences probably scraped the bottom of the barrel and got the cheapest parts they could find and slapped one together.
You pay for a good AR10 from a reliable manufacturer and you can absolutely get sub MOA performance.
The justification is you don't have one
The only problem with the Springfield Scout Squad rifle is that it is almost impossible to buy. They are listed as allocated on Springfield’s website. I have no idea who gets them, U S military?, but you cannot find them.
Yes. They are very difficult to find right now.
All of these rifles should make them G3 magazine compatible for cheap, plentiful reloads. Proprietary mags are why they don't sell more.
Really good video ! Nothing like a great Scout rifle. SOCOM 16 sounds like my game 🇺🇸💪😎
Have the Savage in .308 and can highly recommend!
Thank you 😊
Odd to include a M1A variant. "Scout rifles" are almost universally held to be manual-action. The very definition of one includes low field maintenance and high reliability.
You will run out of ammo long before maintenance or reliability become an issue....
I like all 5.
I'd love to get a 110 scout, but I can't find the right setup in 30-06. I have an old Savage Edge in 30-06 and I'm considering having it turned into a scout rifle as it's fairly light weight and a good straight shooter.
That's a pretty cool idea. Let us know how that Edge turns out.👍
Scout rifles are nice for the horrendously thick woods in the northeast.
Thanks 🥂🎯🎯👏👏👏
I wanted a ruger scout, but the waiting time was too long in Canda, I bought a mossberg instead.
There are long waits on many in US too. Let us know what you think of the Mossberg. We really like it. Especially for the price.
Savage model 10 in .308 with a Nikon 3.25x8 long relief pistol scope on top. Took it to Namibia a few years back for an excellent plains game hunt. Deadly accurate….sub M.O.A.
Owned 2 model 10s both in .308. Both sub MOA right out of the box.
Great rifles!
Scout riffle is my next purchase, I want the unicorn of this though so please Keep the data flowing!
Saw a nice captured scout rifle from East Timor. It was a curtain rod nailed to a fence pailing that shot marbles propelled by match heads fired by Cigarette buts. Was left behind when replaced by victims kit
Thanks! Exactly what I was looking for! NOW to find one at Rural King!
Or another local Gunshop!
PRAISE GOD!
AND KEEP YOUR POWDER DRY!
Looking to get the socom16 .308 . Looks like a beast 💪.
Oh yeah! Love all the M1As, personally.
Cooper’s guidelines are not being followed unless Iron sights, and stripper clip guides, forward mounted scope ( in front of receiver) and 6 lb weight limits, detachable mag. are adhered to. Some are close, some not even close to his designs.
Great rifle
These are probably great options if you can't have an AR10 or something like one.
Yea I don’t understand some of these nearing $2k. I did a custom build AR10 for several hundred dollars less with a nice 600yd optic on top.
the mvp is substandard, bolt is loose as a goose and numerous sticking points on closing...had to send back for headspacing since it siezed shut on 7.62x51...it isn't light either..stock plastic feels greasy and cheap....i am going to make it work for me tho...doug
Do thay make any scout rifle in 30-06
Most "Scout' models come in short action. .308, 7mm, 6.5, etc.
I have the Ruger GSR and Scout Squad. I see no reason to be without either.
The Rugers are really nice and super hard to find, now. (Like everything else, unfortunately)
@@HighlandOutdoorGear I got lucky as a left-hand shooter. I have a 16" 5.56 and 18" .308. I've had them since first release.
You are lucky! Maybe I can learn to shoot lefty.
Hard to beat a M-14 for any target ...?
The second shot was just below the shoulder just outside where the plate would be, nice.
I’ll take the SKS Simonov
Simply beautiful
Must have All of it 😃😃😃
great gun!
i like the voice over, reminds me of a droid. comforting and relaxing
Thank.....you......glad.....you.....liked.....it.
@@HighlandOutdoorGear :p
My Ruger GSR 450BM is just fun.
The Canadian mounted police chose Tikka T3x Arctic as their service rifle after extensive tests. If that does not justify a place on this list, I do not know what does.
You make a fair point. The Arctic is an awesome rifle!
Why not buy the most expensive option, when Joe Taxpayer is footing the bill? Gov't procurement at its finest.
whats with all the bolt guns? this california or something?
How do shout rifles give you an advantage over the AR? I dont see any advantage.
I recommend having at least one of each.😄👍
If I remember correctly, the scout rifle in concept has fewer moving parts, with the assumption that you'd be out of touch with anyone who could make major repairs for an extended period of time. Hence the majority of the guns in that category being bolt action.
Semi autos are not permitted for hunting in many places. The typical .223 AR is underpowered for game larger than medium whitetail sized stuff. An AR is more snag-prone in dense brush. An AR is a great fighting rifle, but a lousy hunting rifle. A Scout can be a great hunting rifle, and still be a decent fighting gun. Just depends on your priorities.
I love socom 16
Agree! Very nice rifle!👍
Where is the difference between a scout rifle and a assault rifle ?
And what epse types of rifles are there
Well, "Assualt Rifle" is more a political term, frankly. Scout rifle was an idea that Col. Jeff Cooper came up with many years ago as a kind-of "All-Purpose" rifle. Something that could be used for hunting and defense. Cooper had several specific criteria such as barrel length, caliber, etc. that he included in his idea.
www.nrablog.com/articles/2017/3/the-scout-rifle-the-one-rifle-to-have-if-you-could-only-have-one
I think my Spanish FR-8 does a pretty good job.
Ruger American Ranch should be in here.
Another good choice👍
I have the Savage.
Big fan of Savage. Super accurate rifles!
Amazing
I want a semi-auto ,308, however max $450 used or $700 new. What options do I have?
Currently the market prices are higher than usual, so finding a semi auto in .308, at that $ will be a challenge. I would consider some of the AR platforms chambered in .308. You may be able to find something close, but in today's market, it's gonna be tough.
My bolt action 308 was just barely cheaper than that good luck buddy
Century C308, but you would have to shop around now as they used to go for $650. Now I've seen them priced up to $900, but I think people are dreaming since you can buy a PTR for close to that.
@ Unmaxen 00: Getting into a semi-auto/SLR .308 at those kinds of prices is going to be very tough in today's market, unless you get very lucky. Frankly, even three years ago, you'd have been hard-pressed. As others have mentioned, a Century C308 CETME/G3 replica, maybe, and magazines are cheap for those, too, which is always nice. There is one option if you are so inclined and good with tools and gunsmithing: Build your own. If you'd consider 7.62x39 instead of .308, you could get into a nice mil-surp SKS for that amount of money.
@@GeorgiaBoy1961 Thanks. Will look into it...
What you are saying is that all of the production Scout Rifles are good. There are only 5 in production. The truth is that the Styr Scout is the only production Scout Rifle the late Colonel personally approved of before he died. To the credit of the other makers, the Savage 10FCM was the only other Scout in production and the Late Colonel blew it off as a cheap copy. Only after his students at Gunsite held their own with the Savage did the Late Colonel give it a nod of tolerance. If one wishes to be "Faithful" To the late Colonel but simply will not fork up the $1800.00 for the Styr, then the Ruger is the next best compromise. It was designed with input from Gunsite but even here, Ed Head, the Gunsite instructor who provided the input to Ruger did admit that he compromised the late Colonels standards in order to make it more marketable. Richard Mann, author of the book" The Scout Rifle Study" wrote that the Mossberg was one of the most rugged and probably the best bang for the buck. The M-1A "Squad Scout" Is not a Scout Rifle. One writer who personally presented it to the Late Colonel as "The Scout Rifle he was brining to his class" Incurred the scoff of the late Colonel boldly proclaiming "THAT IS NOT A SCOUT RIFLE!" And loaned him a Scout prototype Named "Sweetheart" For the class. The M-1A is properly referred to as a "Squad Scout" A Scout derivative. A Battle rifle configured as a Scout. This opens up a whole new area where the Squad Scout should have its own book written.
Jeff cooper was wrong about everything......that nonsense about 45 acp being a 90% man stopper, the 7.62x39 being a poor fighting cartridge, the double action being a solution to a non exist problem, the hiring of that phony Chuck Taylor at his school, and this dumb scout rifle that is no better than an SKS.
@@chadhaire1711 And yet, those who use his fundamentals win gunfights. The post Cooper squirt gunners have only fewer bad guys hit, more innocents shot, and property damage through the roof. The .22 caliber poodle shooter has yet to win any major ground battles
@@chadhaire1711 The SKS is quite underrated. The Scout rifle however holds its own against it. If one has the skill
@@bernieeod57 in your dream world
@@bernieeod57 semi auto vs bolt action......LOL......better have lots of skill with the latter.
Ruger Mini 30 ranch... 7.62x39. 👌
I love my remington 700 sps, change the stock to hunter 700. I niceeeeeee
Magpul Hunter was a great choice!
BANNED IN CANADA. Breaks my heart . Pray for us
/me Wanders off to check if the Ruger comes in 6.5x55 . . .
Your video was really short on the M1A Scout Squad. I have 3 out of the the bunch and I love the M1A. It’s a bit heavy after I added a scope and such,but well worth it. A real man can handle a couple extra pounds. In the ARMY as “12Bravo /SAPPER ,we had to carry a lot more gear more miles over crazy terrain. Good video though.
Agree about the weight. Personally the size (overall length) is what makes it more maneuverable than some other rifles.
8 lbs (roughly) is not heavy in my opinion.
Another good one could be the HK SL8
The best scout rifle is Yugoslavian SKS 7.62 mm
Caliber is the bore diameter. The 7.62mm is high power, not high caliber. The bore diameter of the 7.62mm is only eight hundredth of an inch larger than a .22 caliber bore.
Mr Bill . If you were to buy a new rifle in 7/62/39 what would you buy. Ammo to high and to hard to find for other cal.
versatile :)
Not sure what I think of a 16 inch barrel?? Can a buyer get all this in a 20 inch barrel?
Most of these are only available with sub 20 in. Except for the M1A which has several models with longer barrels, including 20 inch. They have a National Match model that goes up to a 22 inch barrel.
Who makes Rugers "cold hammer forged barrels"? Cold hammer forged is the way to go, I own a few and have shot a few more. They seem to always perform better.
Ruger claims to manufacture their own hammer forged barrels since the early 1990s.
Best scout ak 74
Seems like Steyr is the only one playing to win with a 6.5 Creedmoor chambering.
Wow two years and the Savage 110 went from $399 to $800. Still worth it though.
Yeah....unfortunately prices have REALLY shot up (no pun intended), in the last couple years.
M1a fails with hardened primers common in milsurp ammo. Better quality springs help, but overall the M1a is a huge disappointment. Might try a Fulton someday.
Bula M1A is forged and made for GI ammo....SA M1A are the problem ones
I would take Marlin 444 ss anytime over all rifles in the video.
With over 1 ton of muzzle energy, not too much will stand up to the 444! It's an absolute beast!
Talks about the Scout Squad, proceeds to show the SOCOM 16.
Was thinking the same thing.