Lixada Titanium vs Firebox Nano G2 Comparison Review in 4k
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
- You may not have heard about ultralight backpacking wood stoves. Allow me to introduce you to the Lixada Titanium and the Firebox Nano G2. Watch as I boil a pot of water in each and discuss pros and cons.
Table of Contents
0:00 Intro
0:20 Weight comparison
1:21 Packing up the Firebox Nano G2
1:41 Packing up the Lixada Titanium
2:36 Unpacking the Lixada Titanium
4:16 CAT ATTACK
4:20 Weed. No. Unpacking Firebox Nano G2
4:38 Lixada Titanium Burn Test - Materials and Prep
5:16 Lixada Titanium Burn Test - Loading Fuel
5:28 Lixada Titanium Burn Test - Lighting
6:20 Lixada Titanium Burn Test - Pot On
6:47 Lixada Titanium Burn Test - Rolling Boil
7:16 Lixada Titanium Burn Test - DANGER WATCH THIS
8:13 Firebox Nano G2 Burn Test - Materials and Prep
8:55 Firebox Nano G2 Burn Test - Loading Fuel
9:25 Firebox Nano G2 Burn Test - Lighting
9:52 Firebox Nano G2 Burn Test - Pot On
10:17 Firebox Nano G2 Burn Test - Rolling Boil
11:08 Firebox Nano G2 - Large Pot Feature Demo
11:43 Comparison Discussion - Cost
11:57 Comparison Discussion - Weight
12:01 Comparison Discussion - Boil Times
12:13 My Choice
12:38 Outro
Products used in this video:
Firebox Ultralight Titanium Nano Stove G2 + X-Case Kit: [affiliate] amzn.to/2zVPhjd
Lixada Titanium: [affiliate] amzn.to/2zWg678
MSR Strike Igniter: [affiliate] amzn.to/2zWwsfW
Stanley Camp 24oz. Cook Set: [affiliate] amzn.to/2PjLYYH 
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First I saw the thumb, and thought: "Oh, he hammered it"
Then, as the all the fingers came into view, "He can't be that clumsy"
the cross bars are upside down
If you put the cross bars in "upside down" they stay in place. If you look at the product picture on their website this is the orientation they use.
The Lixada Crossbar is supposed to "hang" into the stove. Then it will be stable.
4:14 sneaky attack in the background
I use the Lixada with the Stanley pot you are using in the video, and have never had an issue with the cross bars falling because I do not put them in the corners. I leave them off entirely while I get the fire going as I can use the entire top to feed more twigs. Then I assemble the cross bars and put them into the cut outs on the top of each side. While it works in either orientation, I prefer to use the flat side of the cross bars on the bottom as it is the most stable should the sides expand in the heat. Hope this helps!
I also have the SS version and never an issue either. I mount them on the corners. In the video, the x-bars were mounted upside down in any case.
@@ipedros7
You can use them like he did for a pan.
For the Stanley he had them upside down.
@@tonygaines15 maybe, His are visually not secure. In contrast, I've never had an issue with how I used in my setup. So took it as they didn't install theirs properly. Choices I guess.
@@ipedros7
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I've got the medium and the large SS....never had a problem.
Thank you for the video. I have a couple of comments on the two stoves.
The biggest comment is that it's a little bit of apples and oranges comparison. They're both twig stoves, that's about where the comparison ends. The Lixada is larger, able to use larger (less processed) wood, and I would comfortably fit larger cookware on it. The Nano is smaller, more compact, but fuel wood has to be smaller and I wouldn't feel entirely comfortable using large pans on it. For me, the Nano is strictly a one-person stove, while the Lixada will work for one and might work for two, so they're aimed at slightly different audiences.
I believe you're installing your crossbars upside down on the Lixada. I've watched several videos on these Chinese stoves (brand names vary), and all of the ones I've seen appear to have the crossbars oriented the other way. I don't think they lock into place even then, but they do seem considerably more stable. You might give it a try and see if it helps.
Most of the people I've seen putting the Lixada (and clones) together also do it somewhat differently. They usually assemble the back and two sides together as a unit, then hold it with one hand and install the floor plate. This avoids them having to assemble both the side pieces and the floor plate at the same time. Again, it might be worth trying to see if it helps in assembly.
The Lixada IS going to be "more fiddly" than the Firebox Nano, no question about that. The one-piece folding construction of the Nano means setup and takedown are both going to be quicker and easier than the Lixada. The Lixada time estimate in the video of "3 or 4 minutes" is exaggerated, as it actually took about 1.5 minutes, but it WILL take longer to put the Lixada together.
Like every decision, what matters comes down to the individual - price, size, ease of use, reputation, longevity, etc. While I'd love to experiment with the Nano, that's just not happening right now.
The crossbar orientation doesn’t matter. As I’ve mentioned previously in the comments, I actually think this is the more stable orientation. The crossbars are a poor design, but if you’re careful to keep your distance in the event of a pot tip over, it’s probably ok. I just can’t recommend it.
@@createthisdotcom I have the uberleben stoker stove- it’s the same stove with a better case and a different name on the front. There are a lot of versions of this stove. I find if you just push the crossbars a little harder they slide between the gap made by the side walls of the stove. The crossbars should then sit flush with the very top edge of the stove and lock in. With my stove I can actually pick up the stove by the crossbars without them coming apart from the stove. Not sure why yours has the obvious issue that it does, but I don’t think it’s a common fault to the design. Which do you prefer now? The nano or the lixada? I hear great things about the firebox nano but it seems small and I worry that refueling it may spill your food because the whole stove is so lightweight and the feet don’t provide a lot of contact with the ground.
I honestly don’t have much use for either one, preferring a gas stove, but if I do grab one I grab my nano.
@@createthisdotcom thanks! Good to know. I have the uberleben but was looking at the nano just for something different. I think I will pass. Thanks for your time.
Nice comparison. I don't bring a pot of petroleum jelly, I pre soak my cotton balls and stick them in a pellet tin. the tins that air gun pellets come in. That stores easily, and it's ready to go. One additional benefit to using a metal pellet tin to store your petroleum jelly cotton balls is that in a real jam you can use the tin as a stove by simply pouring alcohol into the tin, or even simpler, using one of your cotton balls as fuel. I've used it that was so I know it works. A well soaked cotton ball can burn around 7 minutes, to you should be able to cook a meal with 2 or 3 cotton balls. 3 tent stakes can serve as a pot stand. Don't get me wrong, I do bring backpacking stoves, but it's always nice to have a backup plan.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for this. Good info. We ended up bringing a very small plastic container for the jelly, but I like your tin idea.
@@createthisdotcom No thanks needed. Glad you like the idea.
I was hoping to find a comparison to help me make a buying decision and your information was very helpful... thanks!
Well done, brother. I really liked the comparison. I've had my eye on the Firebox Nano G2 and after watching this I actually think I'll get one.
Oh, and your nails. My granddaughter painted my toe nails about 5 years ago. Took about a month to get the freakin color off. An ugly green color. But, I'll do it again!
Be well brother.
Tip for the cotton balls and Vaseline: (before setting out) scoop an amount of Vaseline into a pot and melt on a low temperature, fluff up your cotton balls, add them to the melted Vaseline and they absorb the liquid. Once they cool you are left with impregnated fire starts.
Happy camping.
Cool video I have the Firebox Nano and use mesquite charcol to cook hotdogs. I do like the firebox stove the folds up. Thanks for the video.
I did like the 4K. Your narration was good as well. The case is a stand and ash tray locking the legs inwards or outwards. It also holds everything in there but maybe not the cotton bag. The case also contains metal arms to hold the carbon felt as a wind screen. The carbon mesh also acts as an additional way to not scorch the ground. It is very flame retardant. The feed ports of the nano can accommodate larger pieces of fuel. A vertical stick loading and a top down burn allows you to cook a long time. The bottom can be flipped up to burn even longer pieces of fuel vertically especially using the case stand. The nano also has sticks to allow the Trangia stove to be used while the nano acts as the pot holder and wind screen. There is more total BTUs the bigger your fire volume is. For me the whole kit of the nano is more versatile and useful along with the ease of set up and take down. Thanks for reviewing though.
Have you tried the "overkill" mod from FireBox Nano = which means = you buy 2x Nano and stack them on top of each other and therefore you can burn twice as fast and even can use "Swedish torch" method.
What does that mean? It means that you don't have to babysit the fire anymore. The weight of 2x nano titanium is not much either. The downside is the cost since they are so expensive but otherwise, it's super cool.
With overkill mod, you can even twist those legs separately and not to have to worry like yo said in this video.
I have the Nano and love it wouldn’t want to have to assemble the Lixada in the dark or cold when my hands were cold. The full size 5” firebox also rocks but is a bit on the heavy side, more of a car camping or something where weight is not an issue. For the Vaseline I carry my presoaked Cotton balls in a pill bottle or film canister if you can still find one.
Tried the swedish torch burning in it? I think that is the best way
Your cats are awesome 😺 the stoves are cool too. I have the nano and love it.
The nano is definitely my favorite so far. I feel like it’s overpriced for what it is, but I acknowledge it is a well designed piece of kit. I just wish I lived in a climate where I could rely on it without a isopro backup. I went to the smokies for a short overnight backpacking trip after filming this. It rained all weekend. I was pressed for time so I didn’t even take the nano out of my pack. I just went with my msr pocket rocket 2 by default. I’m looking forward to having the time and weather to make use of the nano as I enjoy wood burning.
4:01, on your demo, the Lixada cross bars are unstable as they are not set correctly. Looking closely, and comparing with the product's picture on Amazon, I noted you mounted them in upside down. Its clear yours sit proud from the top of the stove, where on the picture, it shows it below.
I went to look closer as I have the SS version and it puzzled me. if anything the x-bars make it all more stable, so to be used even with a bigger pan. Hop this helps. Cheers
Have both Emberlit and the nano great little stoves both lite and both work very good !!! Can use trangia or sticks for fuel just saying !
I find it best to pre treat the cotton wool balls you already have in the zip bag with the Vaseline then just take the bag, you can make up as many as you think your going to need, great video on the nano very informative thanks
U saved me so much typing lol well said
Or firelighters made from cut-outs from egg boxes filled with a dawdust & wax mix. You only need to shave a bit of one of them... one of them will light many fireboxes.
Or a few wood shavings, a small amount of found kindling carefully placed, and a humble Bic lighter should do the trick with no fuss. That's how cave men did it. 🤔
Thank you for a detailed review. Just looked up Titanium Firebox and it's price has more than doubled since your review. I bet titanium price went 2.5x up. Right :)
You are using the ferrorod backwards, you are supposed to strike the rod, not use the rod to strike the striker lol
1:12 "So 7 oz.......not real great for backpacking".......??? As compared to what? Sure, 7oz. seems like a lot to the guy who drills holes in his tooth brush handle, cuts the pockets off his backpack, and trims excess thread from the seams of his minimalist tarp......but that's pretty respectable compared to most systems I've taken into the back country (Whisperlite, Jetboil, Trangia, etc.....particularly when you consider you can dispense with fuel if you are willing run it that way. Not to mention you can dispense with the tin box as unnecessary and not integral to the stove itself.
Thanks for the honest review Jessie. The Lixada design was blatantly stolen from Emberlit. An example of American ingenuity being taken, then sold directly to Americans by Chinese companies at a 7 to 1 exchange rate, making possible a low price that the original innovator can't compete with yet makes the Chinese seller much bigger profits ($35 X 7 = $245). The big picture of this is less and less American innovation. Amazon is the main facilitator of this very damaging practice that puts Americans out of business and makes Chinese businesses filthy rich. When Americans stop innovating, we'll be left with whatever the Chinese design for us... Sorry for the rant, It's just that I don't think people realize what's happening on their beloved Amazon.
Was there not a patent on the original design? My understanding is that this situation is why patents were invented in the first place.
@@createthisdotcom createthis since it is not my product I don't know what patent protection he has. I personally patent my products, both in the United States and in China, but patents aren't always respected, especially when the perpetrator is half way around the world. Sometimes the innovator works from a shoestring budget and relies upon the integrity of others rather than legal avenues. Lixada has done this with Emberlit, 180 Tack, Silverfire... The list goes on and on.
MAGA!
Lost me at the exchange rate part..its 7 RMB to the dollar..so 245RMB? Not dollars..
True, but for me a Brit it's £100 to get an Emberlit, Honey Stove want £75, Vargo want something similar, but Lixada I can get in Titanium for £15. I know it's bad but for me pennies are tight.
Good video..but I don't this you are comparing apples to apples. I would think the Firebox G2 titanium would be a closer comparison to the Lixada. I'll check out your other videos
For Lixada try to put the cross bar upside down , It will be secure , good vidéo
Great review ,at the moment my toe nails are rainbow coloured ,daughters eh!
Try making a "Swedish " torch fire in the nano fire box stove ( I think You'll
like it ) , it also burns charcoal very well .
Funny you had to pick Lixada's cheaper stove to try and make the over priced Firebox junk look good ! Well Lixada also make hinged stoves which are much better, about a third of the price of the Firebox, and lighter, stronger, and much more stable.
This is a strange comparison. This is to completly stoves. The nano is so small that is for weight hunters, and are ment cooking alone. I know that bigger chunks can give a longlasting fire also. I think the lixada are much more versitale. It is big enough so it can cook for for several peoples and fill up the burn chamber you will get more than enough heat. Or you can fokus the heat in a corner and heat up some cups of water in a small pot easy with very little wood. Its very easy to collect and make workingsticks with the big opening. Use 3-6 long stics and just push them in the feeding port. You can adjust the heat by taking some of the sticks out and put them in again to increase the heat. The lixada and similar large ovens can easily be used as a bonfire and give a ton of heat in all directions. And of course, no problem with swedish torchfire and you can cook for at least one hour without refilling the champer.
The firebox nano is a multi fuel stove those wires you had mentioned are for a few things such as holding an alcohol stove or a fuel plate and the case it came with is an additional component for zero trace to place it on the nano for me is hands down the winner but I have a few plus the full size as well great video
The case you can buy for the nano is great for no trace and it can adapt to several different gas and alcohol stoves. It's just much more versatile overall.
Firebox nuff said...
Just get a pot that covers the whole stove - problem solved. Used mine without the crossbar to boil water, no problems.
That pot is too small for the Lixada stove. If it was the right pot, it would be ok.
Upside down crossbar dude
Then you should have bought the stainless steel model of the nano for your 2nd choice sence it only weighs in at 6 ounces !! You would've saved $30.
Crossbars upside down
Came over from your complaint on Amazon about the stove being dangerous. When you force a product to fail its called stupidity not dangerous and comparing a Nano back pack stove to a large car camp stove is ridiculous. I have never had the cross bars of any of my stoves fail from proper use. Oh and FYI, You had the cross bars upside down. Dangerous user not product.
I tested with the bars both ways. If you want boiling water to spill, go ahead and use it.
Little slower? Twice as slow :P.
Keep in mind that I have one quarter the experience burning with the Firebox Nano G2. It’s possible the wood I chose was wetter. It’s possible I put the pot on too soon. Lots of variables. But yes, in this test, it was twice as slow. With a sample set of 1.
lixada is better
Not real great for backpacking? Lol ok guy.
Hmm? What’s the problem?
@@createthisdotcom Yeah, the "Not real great for backpacking" that you said to the Firebox Nano was the problem hahaha. No offense but you crack me up.
Did you hear what I said? The nano is better than the Lixada for backpacking, but I can’t rely on the nano alone in my climate. Too much rain. Therefore I must bring an isopro stove too.
I’m not sure why that cracks you up. It’s just ultra practical in my climate.
It took about a minute and a half. Not 3 to 4 minutes. ADHD much?
And then...you intentionally muck with the cross bars then whine and complain that it's unstable. Horrible "review".
Not sure what you mean by a minute and a half vs 3 to 4 minutes.
@@createthisdotcom Really? Why doesn't that surprise me?
Are you affiliated with the stove manufacturer or something?
@@createthisdotcom Not at all. I am merely
"affiliated" with logic and common sense. YOU did the review; YOU said it took 3-4 minutes to put together. I watched the actual time line from YOUR OWN VIDEO...and it took, at max, 1:30. Then I commented on that, and you either played stupid or ARE stupid.
I don’t remember when I made this video exactly, but I know I’ve been on a backpacking trip to the smokies and I’ve flown to New York and taken shitty pictures in the rain that I regret, not to mention slept and actually worked a full time job every day since I made this video. So no, I don’t remember exactly what I said. If that makes me stupid then I’m stupid. Personally, I think you should chill out and stop taking random RUclips videos with 200 views so damn seriously.