This is a good point, I also think about the vessel album and in the new music video for overcompensate where he takes on a vessel as Clancy to influence the people of demo for the resistance.
another thing that could be seen with march to the sea. the last line "once again i will be in a march to the sea" could be talking about (or an inspiration for) the cycle
also another thing I realized about march to the sea is that from what we know about vialism, we know that self destruction is the only way to paradise. we know that the glorious gone (I don't remember if the term glorious gone refers to citizens of Dema after they die or not) die, and we know that they commit suicide, but we've never been told how they die. like in what way. this is where march to the sea comes into my theory of sorts. there's this line of emotionless marchers who are walking down the sand and into the sea to fall asleep along the way saying "this line's the only way." could it be that the way the citizens of Dema die to become a glorious gone is by walking down the shore of port vial and drowning? when I was brining up this connection/theory to my sibling they brought up the song Drown by Tyler Joseph and they were like "hey, Drown." (implying the song) and although drown is technically not a twenty one pilots song they have tried to see how it connects to the lore. They also brought up the line "Take me up, seal the door, i dont want to march here anymore." and brought up the blue door from the icy tour and how it's (the door) connected to the lore, and how there might be a connection to march to the sea there.
Be Concerned makes me think of Level of Concern "I told you my level of concern, but you walked by like you never heard." - speaking to Dema citizens 🤔
Interesting 'Clear' lyrics.. he wished that he had 2 faces to prove his theory that masking his words (rapping in metaphor?) will prove to be more effective than yelling on the street corner (evangelizing?) I would love to see the conclusion to the new album. So many possible meanings ie addressing mental health/ the music industry/ organized religion and even conveying the gospel in a super creative way perhaps?
I looked at the migraine vid about a week ago (when you told me to) and I’ve been listening to vessel more lately and I think ode to sleep could have some meaning in the dema story. Maybe you should make a vid on it, idk.
Thank you for watching it, that means a lot to me! I'm planning on making more parts of this video for the rest of the albums so Vessel will be next |-/
Ummm interesting🤔 I know a theory that says he wrote that song bc he felt skeptical about love, not believing that he would ever get a love partner (which we obviously know now is not true)
I really appreciate you taking the time to share your perspective. I’m glad to see others that enjoy understanding the journey of how we got to where we are today. Some call this lore related, it is simply a beautiful journey of life. Thank you for having the courage to share this! I really enjoyed it. #504 🧡🍀
another thing regarding kitchen sink is that the logo is called the kitchen sink and tyler will never reveal its true meaning cause then it loses all meaning to him also for trapdoor, in overcompensate, the citizens watch him disappear before their eyes as he stops seizing clancy
I think in an interview he said that he's the only one who knows the meaning of the kitchen sink, and this gives him purpose to keep living, bc if he were to give up, no one else would ever know what it meant. Also, cool overcompensate connection |-/
i really like your content but i think us as a fan base might be reaching a bit on going back to the self titled and rab albums. i understand some vessel stuff being retroactively added in but i think we might have crossed a line. most of the self titled songs are about tyler’s relationship with god and his struggles and i don’t think we should twist that to try to put the puzzle together for our storyline. i could be very wrong and i am ready to accept that. but to me, self titled is just tyler being vulnerable with god and finding earthly metaphors to convey his feelings
I am not changing the meanings of the songs, I'm just sharing what I think could have had an influence on the lore, early puzzle pieces that may have shaped the lore. They're just theories and this is just for fun |-/
Well, after all, it's all in Tyler's mind, so indeed it is like pieces that would make a puzzle in 2018. What I find very interesting here is that in the video you can see every little detail and then feel free to create your personal "head canon" of songs for the Dema storyline. I even have "Dollhouse" in my "Dema Lore" 😂
Tyler clearly either already had the lore in mind, went back and pulled stuff out OR based the lore on some of the same thoughts from self titled and RAB. I think this is great!
@FearlessConcern I agree with a lot of this video. Although I would like to add in a couple of new perspectives. I think a lot of this album is used later on to build a backstory for Trash the Dragon, who represents Hope. It’s like Trash is the real “god” of this world, represented by the Spaceship in March to the Sea, but gets shot down in Air Catcher and passes his “heart” (hope) to Clancy in Taxi Cab. Now, Clancy must create Hope for himself and others, which is what the rest of his story seems to be about. So later in Vessel and Blurryface, when Tyler talks about how he “killed a man in his head,” he’s really talking about the Blurryface part of him that killed the Trash part of him. The bishops then capture Trash’s dead body, which later obviously comes back into play in SAI. I know it may be a stretch, but this is my personal head canon and I think there is a lot of other lore to support this theory. I also think Trash’s dead body is gonna come back into play in this next album now that Clancy has learned Seizing.
not meaning to be rude, but imo no lore existed pre-trench era. anything referred to since that is just meant as a call back such as voldsoy meaning island of violence and the word vessel being used. only thing im confused about is the bishops line in doubt because the lore started after blurryface was released aka when there was no lore. especially going this far back
I'm just sharing what I think could have had an influence on the lore, early puzzle pieces that may have shaped the lore. They're just theories and this is just for fun |-/
This is a good point, I also think about the vessel album and in the new music video for overcompensate where he takes on a vessel as Clancy to influence the people of demo for the resistance.
I’ll stay awake
Cause the darks not taking prisoners tonight!!!
I’ll tape my eyes
So I don’t fall asleep again!!!
I thought no one gunna do the old 21 pilot album lore recap videos :O!!! Didn’t know there Lore in these! Can’t wait the vessel lore recap :D !
Thank you! I'm currently writing my script about the lore in every song on Vessel! Vessel is my favorite TØP album |-/
@@FearlessConcernomg same Vessel is also my fav album ever
I love this! Thanks for putting in the work and please keep it up. Tyler clearly put some of this stuff in the lore! Love the channel!
Thank you so much!! |-/
another thing that could be seen with march to the sea. the last line "once again i will be in a march to the sea" could be talking about (or an inspiration for) the cycle
I agree! Thanks for sharing |-/
also another thing I realized about march to the sea is that from what we know about vialism, we know that self destruction is the only way to paradise. we know that the glorious gone (I don't remember if the term glorious gone refers to citizens of Dema after they die or not) die, and we know that they commit suicide, but we've never been told how they die. like in what way.
this is where march to the sea comes into my theory of sorts.
there's this line of emotionless marchers who are walking down the sand and into the sea to fall asleep along the way saying "this line's the only way."
could it be that the way the citizens of Dema die to become a glorious gone is by walking down the shore of port vial and drowning?
when I was brining up this connection/theory to my sibling they brought up the song Drown by Tyler Joseph and they were like "hey, Drown." (implying the song) and although drown is technically not a twenty one pilots song they have tried to see how it connects to the lore.
They also brought up the line "Take me up, seal the door, i dont want to march here anymore." and brought up the blue door from the icy tour and how it's (the door) connected to the lore, and how there might be a connection to march to the sea there.
Can’t wait! I’ve noticed a couple references in these but not much, excited to see your take on it
Thank you!! It means a lot |-/
Be Concerned makes me think of Level of Concern "I told you my level of concern, but you walked by like you never heard." - speaking to Dema citizens 🤔
Very interesting theories on the possible connections. The Kool-Aid Man appearing made me laugh.
Thank you so much!! |-/ My best friend edits all the videos on the channel so that was her...dont drink the kool-aid lol
Interesting 'Clear' lyrics.. he wished that he had 2 faces to prove his theory that masking his words (rapping in metaphor?) will prove to be more effective than yelling on the street corner (evangelizing?)
I would love to see the conclusion to the new album.
So many possible meanings ie addressing mental health/ the music industry/ organized religion and even conveying the gospel in a super creative way perhaps?
Thank YOU for doing this!! ❤
Thank you for watching my videos!! |-/
@@FearlessConcern I recommended you to The Pop Song Professor, too! He’s a huge TØP fan as well.
I looked at the migraine vid about a week ago (when you told me to) and I’ve been listening to vessel more lately and I think ode to sleep could have some meaning in the dema story. Maybe you should make a vid on it, idk.
Thank you for watching it, that means a lot to me! I'm planning on making more parts of this video for the rest of the albums so Vessel will be next |-/
@@FearlessConcern ok
thank youuu 💗
About the "Hands held higher" in song the forest, remember the statue/s in DEMA? The ones where a man has his hands above his head?
Oh yeah, nice catch! And I guess it would also work then for how clancy and the bishops lift their hands up high to begin seizing a vessel |-/
Ummm interesting🤔
I know a theory that says he wrote that song bc he felt skeptical about love, not believing that he would ever get a love partner (which we obviously know now is not true)
I really appreciate you taking the time to share your perspective. I’m glad to see others that enjoy understanding the journey of how we got to where we are today. Some call this lore related, it is simply a beautiful journey of life. Thank you for having the courage to share this! I really enjoyed it. #504 🧡🍀
Thank you so much!! |-/
Yeees i love this contentttt keep going ❤
Thank you so much!! |-/
7:10 sums it up perfectly!
Thank you!! |-/
this is such a great topic! i love your channel, thank you for everything 💗 |-/
Thank you for watching my videos, it means a lot to me!! |-/
another thing regarding kitchen sink is that the logo is called the kitchen sink and tyler will never reveal its true meaning cause then it loses all meaning to him
also for trapdoor, in overcompensate, the citizens watch him disappear before their eyes as he stops seizing clancy
I think in an interview he said that he's the only one who knows the meaning of the kitchen sink, and this gives him purpose to keep living, bc if he were to give up, no one else would ever know what it meant.
Also, cool overcompensate connection |-/
AMAZING ❤
Um vultures can fly
Maybe it’s the citizens of dema who can’t fly to escape the island
Hi again
i really like your content but i think us as a fan base might be reaching a bit on going back to the self titled and rab albums. i understand some vessel stuff being retroactively added in but i think we might have crossed a line. most of the self titled songs are about tyler’s relationship with god and his struggles and i don’t think we should twist that to try to put the puzzle together for our storyline. i could be very wrong and i am ready to accept that. but to me, self titled is just tyler being vulnerable with god and finding earthly metaphors to convey his feelings
I am not changing the meanings of the songs, I'm just sharing what I think could have had an influence on the lore, early puzzle pieces that may have shaped the lore. They're just theories and this is just for fun |-/
Well, after all, it's all in Tyler's mind, so indeed it is like pieces that would make a puzzle in 2018. What I find very interesting here is that in the video you can see every little detail and then feel free to create your personal "head canon" of songs for the Dema storyline. I even have "Dollhouse" in my "Dema Lore" 😂
Tyler clearly either already had the lore in mind, went back and pulled stuff out OR based the lore on some of the same thoughts from self titled and RAB. I think this is great!
@@timmrees891 yes I agree! Thank you!! |-/
@FearlessConcern I agree with a lot of this video. Although I would like to add in a couple of new perspectives. I think a lot of this album is used later on to build a backstory for Trash the Dragon, who represents Hope. It’s like Trash is the real “god” of this world, represented by the Spaceship in March to the Sea, but gets shot down in Air Catcher and passes his “heart” (hope) to Clancy in Taxi Cab. Now, Clancy must create Hope for himself and others, which is what the rest of his story seems to be about. So later in Vessel and Blurryface, when Tyler talks about how he “killed a man in his head,” he’s really talking about the Blurryface part of him that killed the Trash part of him. The bishops then capture Trash’s dead body, which later obviously comes back into play in SAI.
I know it may be a stretch, but this is my personal head canon and I think there is a lot of other lore to support this theory.
I also think Trash’s dead body is gonna come back into play in this next album now that Clancy has learned Seizing.
not meaning to be rude, but imo no lore existed pre-trench era. anything referred to since that is just meant as a call back such as voldsoy meaning island of violence and the word vessel being used. only thing im confused about is the bishops line in doubt because the lore started after blurryface was released aka when there was no lore. especially going this far back
I'm just sharing what I think could have had an influence on the lore, early puzzle pieces that may have shaped the lore. They're just theories and this is just for fun |-/