Thank you so much for sharing your time and your expertise! My wife an I are retire teachers just starting out RVing an we are looking at E-bikes for some extra/additional options of moving around camping areas an park trails. Your video helped me immensely!!
Glad you found it helpful. I'm guessing you didn't watch the whole hour, nor did I expect you to. I recently plugged in some time stamped subject headings in the description section so you can go back and navigate through it quicker to watch just whatever you feel is relevant and skip over the rest.
thanks for a good video. you say milliamps about the batteries, but it's called amps or amp hours. Milliamp is much smaller. example: 15 amp battery is (15,000 milliamps)
thanks for the great info-I'm just under 5ft-I currently have an Aventon pace but feel it's too big. Also, we do alot of gravel road riding and easy single track-the aventon is squirrely to say the least. I have been eyeing the juiced ripracer ...but only 1 gear. Any suggestions for a 20" wheel (3-4") to check out for the kind of riding we do?
Yes, very good value for a mid-drive. Unfortunately, most people don't really know what they're getting into with the Premium and have regretted it due to its sheer weight and size. Easily the worst selling Lectric model. I actually met someone while riding who said that he wished his got stolen so he'd have an excuse to get something he actually wants. Of course a few who enjoy theirs. Hopefully you one of the latter.
Would you recommend an Ebike for main mode of transportation? For my situation: I work in the city but live in a suburb. So I take my nearest train station that gets me into the city and use public transport from there. But I don't have a car (nor really the "want" to spend for one right now, even for a beater car + insurance and all) and the station is at least 1 hour away by walking distance. I use ride shares when I need to (to get to my station) but that adds up over time. I plan to primarily use a decent Ebike to get me to my station and back home (and occasional food/store run if i don't feel like walking). If I take the most direct sidewalk route to my station then it's about 3.6miles there and back again (this is faster timing wise). Or if I choose to go down the nearest bike route on the street, then that's about 5.1 miles there and back again. I will lock my bike at the station and proceed with my daily train route. The area I live in does have some really snowy/super cold seasons and some really hot seasons. So I assume I would be taking the battery with me to work to avoid leaving it in harsh weather conditions. I'd also assume I would need a fat tire bike for when those harsh seasons hit. I saw that the RIpRacer by Juiced is sub 1,000 and seems to be what I'm looking for to at least get started out on. Right now I'm just trying to get more insight into whether this will be a worth while investment (specifically pertaining to your time stamp on Ebike not saving you money). And if it is then what would you recommend.
In all honesty, I would recommend a stand up scooter for your situation. You don't want to buy an ebike and knowingly park it in pretty much the same place every single day for a notable duration of time. People will notice it and I'd be concerned about theft. You also may end up worrying the entire day and that's not a good feeling. Some thieves try to steal bikes by attempting to break through the battery key hole. They won't be able to do it successfully, but their attempt would completely ruin your battery and that's about $400 of damage and makes the rest of the bike useless. The range you're looking at for commute also doesn't require a giant battery on a big bike. The Juiced bikes are 52v and probably more power and heavier than you'd need. It may also attract unwanted attention. I'd recommend something as small as you can get away with. Something where you wouldn't need to park it at all and can bring it with you to work or wherever. I truly think buying an ebike for your situation would be a mistake.
@@Funcentric Thanks for the insight. I had not thought about a standup scooter before. Especially for carrying around/security, that sounds more ideal. If you have any recommendations to research I would love to hear them. But I'll look into it overall. Thanks again.
@@TheBoyLaBoy It's been awhile since I've purchased or looked into a standup scooter. I have the EcoReco S3, but wouldn't necessarily recommend that now as the company is either dead or dying. I picked them though b/c they were an American brand with domestic support for me (at least at the time 6 or so years ago). But what may be valuable to you isn't the one I picked specifically, but why I picked it. I chose it b/c it had of the best power to weight ratios, weight being very low yet powerful enough. Not one of those dinky ones that only go around the block. This was way before rental scooters became a thing. Look into the Glion Dolly as a standard to compare to for whatever you may end up looking at. I had recommend this to a friend and he and his dad still use it for the past 3-4 years. The cool feature is that it has rollers on the back so that you can drag it behind you rather than carry it. Not only rollers, but it has a slide out separate handle specifically to haul it like a luggage. It also is designed to stand up vertically when not in use for storage such as in an office or at home. Also an American brand. At the time, it had a thumb throttle which I didn't like, but it looks like their new updated version is a twist style one which I much prefer even more than a finger throttle. The Glion Dolly also has a built in headlight which you don't find on many stand up scooters in stock configuration. The only warning against stand up scooters is don't get something overly powerful and therefore overly expensive and overly heavy for your use. Also don't fall for any hype like carbon fiber, etc. You will want something at least 36v and even those won't take hills very well. Ignore 24v ones. 6" wheels is on the small side. I wouldn't go any bigger than 8" for your use.
20 MPH is as fast as I want to go on most chinese hardware. Commodity ebikes really should be bought by people who can fix them. Brand name ebikes should be bought by people who can afford $100/hr shop rates.
Agreed. Although all the hardware is Chinese made. It’s more about the brand that stands behind the product. I much prefer an American brand even if their products are likely made in China. You want American backing.
@@Funcentric my $560 Viva FM20 will be delivered in a couple days. It will replace my $700 Ancheer mountain bike which was my first ebike. I learned a lot. You don't need or use 21 speeds with power. And my 70 year old body resents a hardtail. And smaller wheels and step over will be fine where I ride and be safer getting on and off. But my rides and yours are likely much different. What makes sense for me may not make sense for younger and taller folks. I can buy and use generic bikes because there is no part of them I can't fix, even the electronics or rebuild motors. It's like we exist in different worlds and certainly budgets. A good video nonetheless.
Thank you so much for sharing your time and your expertise! My wife an I are retire teachers just starting out RVing an we are looking at E-bikes for some extra/additional options of moving around camping areas an park trails. Your video helped me immensely!!
Great! Love to hear it!
good items to think about, thanks for the info
Glad you found it helpful. I'm guessing you didn't watch the whole hour, nor did I expect you to. I recently plugged in some time stamped subject headings in the description section so you can go back and navigate through it quicker to watch just whatever you feel is relevant and skip over the rest.
Thanks for the great info. You are a good story teller.
Thanks man! Trying to depict real scenarios. Too many RUclips videos just showing shiny new things for commission.
thanks for a good video. you say milliamps about the batteries, but it's called amps or amp hours.
Milliamp is much smaller.
example: 15 amp battery is (15,000 milliamps)
Haha, you're right! I misspoke. I used to do a lot of videos on RC cars and drones and was just so used to mah.
thanks for the great info-I'm just under 5ft-I currently have an Aventon pace but feel it's too big. Also, we do alot of gravel road riding and easy single track-the aventon is squirrely to say the least. I have been eyeing the juiced ripracer ...but only 1 gear. Any suggestions for a 20" wheel (3-4") to check out for the kind of riding we do?
My Lectric XPremium e-bike has a truck run mid drive with a torque sensor and hydraulic brakes for well under $2,000.00
Yes, very good value for a mid-drive. Unfortunately, most people don't really know what they're getting into with the Premium and have regretted it due to its sheer weight and size. Easily the worst selling Lectric model. I actually met someone while riding who said that he wished his got stolen so he'd have an excuse to get something he actually wants. Of course a few who enjoy theirs. Hopefully you one of the latter.
Would you recommend an Ebike for main mode of transportation?
For my situation: I work in the city but live in a suburb. So I take my nearest train station that gets me into the city and use public transport from there. But I don't have a car (nor really the "want" to spend for one right now, even for a beater car + insurance and all) and the station is at least 1 hour away by walking distance. I use ride shares when I need to (to get to my station) but that adds up over time. I plan to primarily use a decent Ebike to get me to my station and back home (and occasional food/store run if i don't feel like walking).
If I take the most direct sidewalk route to my station then it's about 3.6miles there and back again (this is faster timing wise). Or if I choose to go down the nearest bike route on the street, then that's about 5.1 miles there and back again. I will lock my bike at the station and proceed with my daily train route. The area I live in does have some really snowy/super cold seasons and some really hot seasons. So I assume I would be taking the battery with me to work to avoid leaving it in harsh weather conditions. I'd also assume I would need a fat tire bike for when those harsh seasons hit. I saw that the RIpRacer by Juiced is sub 1,000 and seems to be what I'm looking for to at least get started out on. Right now I'm just trying to get more insight into whether this will be a worth while investment (specifically pertaining to your time stamp on Ebike not saving you money). And if it is then what would you recommend.
In all honesty, I would recommend a stand up scooter for your situation. You don't want to buy an ebike and knowingly park it in pretty much the same place every single day for a notable duration of time. People will notice it and I'd be concerned about theft. You also may end up worrying the entire day and that's not a good feeling.
Some thieves try to steal bikes by attempting to break through the battery key hole. They won't be able to do it successfully, but their attempt would completely ruin your battery and that's about $400 of damage and makes the rest of the bike useless.
The range you're looking at for commute also doesn't require a giant battery on a big bike. The Juiced bikes are 52v and probably more power and heavier than you'd need. It may also attract unwanted attention.
I'd recommend something as small as you can get away with. Something where you wouldn't need to park it at all and can bring it with you to work or wherever.
I truly think buying an ebike for your situation would be a mistake.
@@Funcentric Thanks for the insight. I had not thought about a standup scooter before. Especially for carrying around/security, that sounds more ideal. If you have any recommendations to research I would love to hear them. But I'll look into it overall.
Thanks again.
@@TheBoyLaBoy It's been awhile since I've purchased or looked into a standup scooter. I have the EcoReco S3, but wouldn't necessarily recommend that now as the company is either dead or dying. I picked them though b/c they were an American brand with domestic support for me (at least at the time 6 or so years ago).
But what may be valuable to you isn't the one I picked specifically, but why I picked it. I chose it b/c it had of the best power to weight ratios, weight being very low yet powerful enough. Not one of those dinky ones that only go around the block. This was way before rental scooters became a thing.
Look into the Glion Dolly as a standard to compare to for whatever you may end up looking at. I had recommend this to a friend and he and his dad still use it for the past 3-4 years. The cool feature is that it has rollers on the back so that you can drag it behind you rather than carry it. Not only rollers, but it has a slide out separate handle specifically to haul it like a luggage. It also is designed to stand up vertically when not in use for storage such as in an office or at home.
Also an American brand. At the time, it had a thumb throttle which I didn't like, but it looks like their new updated version is a twist style one which I much prefer even more than a finger throttle. The Glion Dolly also has a built in headlight which you don't find on many stand up scooters in stock configuration.
The only warning against stand up scooters is don't get something overly powerful and therefore overly expensive and overly heavy for your use. Also don't fall for any hype like carbon fiber, etc. You will want something at least 36v and even those won't take hills very well. Ignore 24v ones. 6" wheels is on the small side. I wouldn't go any bigger than 8" for your use.
20 MPH is as fast as I want to go on most chinese hardware.
Commodity ebikes really should be bought by people who can fix them. Brand name ebikes should be bought by people who can afford $100/hr shop rates.
Agreed. Although all the hardware is Chinese made. It’s more about the brand that stands behind the product. I much prefer an American brand even if their products are likely made in China. You want American backing.
BMW Budget?
Anything under $3000ish is a budget ebike. Ultra budget ones are under $1k. The fancy stuff is more like $6k and above.
@@Funcentric my $560 Viva FM20 will be delivered in a couple days.
It will replace my $700 Ancheer mountain bike which was my first ebike. I learned a lot. You don't need or use 21 speeds with power. And my 70 year old body resents a hardtail. And smaller wheels and step over will be fine where I ride and be safer getting on and off. But my rides and yours are likely much different. What makes sense for me may not make sense for younger and taller folks. I can buy and use generic bikes because there is no part of them I can't fix, even the electronics or rebuild motors. It's like we exist in different worlds and certainly budgets. A good video nonetheless.
@@curtwuollet2912 cool! Enjoy. Always good to hear others experiencing fun ebiking. Ride safe.