Kickdown and nice Voith! - Black Cat Travel Dennis Trident J666BCT (Y464NHK)
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- Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2021
- It's rare that you find a Euro2 Trident knocking about these days - but hidden in deepest Lincolnshire, at the Black Cat open day, was this survivor. Normally found on private hire work, the open day provided an opportunity to ride on and record this thing, and it's in excellent shape for its age, too. Enjoy!
Open road after 5:15.
This bus was serving the shuttle from Lincoln Station to Harmston depot.
Black Cat Travel
J666BCT "Jerry" (originally registered Y464NHK - new to Stagecoach London as TAS464, later 17464)
Dennis Trident/Alexander ALX400
Voith 3-speed 
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This'd be lovely for preservation!
That is lovely! Euro2s have always been a favourite of mine and this one packs a lot of power for how old it is.
Yeah this brought me back!
But very noisy on lower saloon
Sick journey! As a stagecoach/selkent local this brings back memories!
Same to all of that!
same
Beast! Great video.
Amazing footage!
Great catch, loving the thrash! It’s doing well for a 20 year old bus that seems to gradually be getting more tired by the day, it’s probably been through a lot especially in London. Still, we should appreciate any that’s not completely fucked given how rare they are approaching 2022
Thank you for documenting a bus we otherwise wouldn’t see on RUclips. If you want some more Euro 2 Voith Trident fix, I recommend going to Gloucester and doing the Swanbrook Coaches service 354 to Hartpury College between 10am and 2pm. Theirs are ex Yellow Buses T reg Lolynes alongside LW51 reg ex Dublin AVs, they’re used daily during the week at term time and it’s open door! It also runs half term, evenings and weekends but uses Solos instead
I've heard good things about those Yellow Buses Lolynes actually, noted. Only issue is if the X-NNO turns up, cause some things are best left in the past and that batch is one of those lol
@@gloriouswater538 354 seems to be mainly a Lolyne and an AV when it is deckers but I can’t guarantee that’s always the case. If that plan somehow fails, then you could see if the local Stagecoach Tridents from Gloucester or Stroud give you any luck 🤷🏻♂️
Love this kickdown
What a beast!
Agreed!
Brilliant thrash! Need to go out and see this!
I'm not sure Black Cat do anything other than schools normally, but I'm not from the area. You'll need quite a good bit of luck either way!
The Y-NHK was a strange batch of Tridents as some were ZF and some were Voith. I wonder if the ZF ones were non Stagecoach spec.
They all looked normal Stagecoach spec to me. Very weird batch, there were 5 different variants within the Y/51reg batch, Euro2/3 Voiths, Euro2 4/5spd ZF, and Euro3 5spd ZFs as well. I think Manchester got ZF Tridents too.
A local bus operator near me has Y448/9NHK. They're not too bad but going up and down the A1 everyday on schools is slowly killing them as they're flat out at 50mph.
I think I remember those two actually. 448 had a loud Voith when Plumstead had it.
@@gloriouswater538 449 had a recon gearbox put in and it's loud. 448 was stuck in kickdown due to a bad load sensor.
@@gloriouswater538 448 is now been withdrawn and all Trident's will eventually get replaced by Omnidekka's as there's loads of them left , higher seating capacity and actual power.
I think all of ADL's engines that are non hybrid or electric are relaxing but Trident euro 2 is really relaxing
These Tridents were the first type of them not belonging to ADL's one nor Transbus. This bus was built by dennis and not ADL nor transbus.
Nice I subbed
Miss these on the 47 and 199
So do I! I lived on those routes when these were in their last days in service, used to get loads of the things. I can still name all 9 of the last batch that TL had off the top of my head lmao
@@gloriouswater538 omg me too lol. We even had a ZF Trident until 2015 and I remember all the Euro 2 ones which lasted until then
I remember the two ZF ones! I have some footage of 17441 from back then that I lost - would love to find that knocking about some day!
Fantastic sounding Trident that! Really nothing to fault with it! Did you manage any of their other Tridents?
I know! They had two more running, both of them ex Blackpool ELC bodied ones, I got one of them too.
Your missing out I get on black cat every day
This one appears to be ex-Romford, at least at one point, so there's a not too bad chance I have actually been on this bus on the 247 many years ago. Shame that none of these are in London anymore and an even bigger shame that they're going extinct. All the ex-London ones are dying in second-hand services and Stagecoach seem to be getting rid of the last of theirs elsewhere too. Luckily though Nu-venture apparently have a few 55 reg ex-London units (as well as an old Metroline one) and they send them down my way from time to time, so I might get to experience these generation-defining buses a few more times before they're all gone.
On another note, this one's in excellent nick for its age. I've heard Enviro 200s in worse wear, and the remaining darts of this age are all rotting corpses by now. Do you know if any of the pre-rebranding tridents are still around, the ones that have red handlebars and the grey seat covers?
Yeah, this one would have been new to Romford back then. To answer your question - I know that Fords of Althorne have a couple of old interior Tridents from the T-KPU batch, that run on Chelmsford shopper buses mainly. I've had their T90BUS which is ex 17094 - that one's also in excellent nick for its age!
Also, NV don't have the Metroline ones anymore, they've had an ex Abellio E400 replace their last one. The ex Stagecoach ones are still knocking about though.
@@gloriouswater538 That's good news then. I know those ones have been out of London for a long while now, coming up to 10 years I think since they (and this one as well if memory serves, all up to 51 were withdrawn at that point) were withdrawn, presumably because being Euro II they no longer met London's emissions quotas. I unfortunately never got to experience the oldest tridents; Romford and Barking only had the X reg ones, maybe V reg as well? The ones with the new-style seats but still the grey interior and red handlebars. I don't know if V reg had the redesigned separate seats or the old bench-style seats. If a few T reg tridents have survived, surely some V and X reg have as well.
Oh, that's a shame about the ex-Met ones. You're making me feel old reminding me that London is withdrawing the oldest E400s now. At least the ex-Stagecoaches should stay around for a while. They're only 55 reg, they can't be that knackered yet. Saying that they are 16-17 years old now.
On another note, one of my other local routes back in London was the 150. When it gets let out for tender again in '24 and its E400s get withdrawn, we could really use some of them down here. We've still got the GN04 ALX400s and ex-North London Geminis running our routes that are really starting to fall apart now. I'd say the GN04 bunch are in worse condition than the ex-London Geminis. Some of them are sounding really knackered now and a few have fucked transmission and exhausts. We did get some ex-London E400s a couple years ago, all 07-58 reg new to Arriva Southend at the time, those ones used to work the 370 and 66, not really local routes to me but I saw them enough and I have been on them. Unfortunately those are ageing really badly and falling apart too. So yeah, when the time comes for their withdrawal we could really do with some 09-60 reg Arriva E400s. They're very reliable buses those facelifted E400s, they don't seem to have aged a day since their first run.
There are definitely some V-MEVs still knocking about that I've seen, but I'm not sure how you can actually get on one. I know Black Cat Travel have one, but they do schools and private hire so there doesn't seem an easy way to get on it... You are correct, those ones came with the newer Lazzerini seats and the old interior. Romford and Barking both had a lot of them, among other garages, being that this was one of those batches that ends up absolutely everywhere!
I hear that NV plan to get rid of 18476 (no loss there) and have two more Abellio E400s on the way. To be honest, though... some of the NV Tridents are well past it, you'll have better luck elsewhere!