Armchair Extras: Induced Demand
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"if you choose not to decide you still have made a choice"
great words from Neil Peart
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6:39 Would love to see an occasional omnibus video of criticisms of these channels, kind of like a capsule review compilation lasting 15 minutes, every few months or so
This is perfect, no more editing needed
I agree, this is nice and relaxing to watch
7:07 agree not taking stance is also a stance!
I would pay to watch Economics Explained watch a video about induced demand
lol
Dude you literally nuked his career into Oblivion
Between this and your chat on The Urbanist Agenda I kinda like the format of just talking about the ideas that went into your other projects and topics that arent fully fleshed out yet. It beings ideas into more of a conversation than just edutainment.
7:52 what cars suck at the most is transporting people efficiently when it comes to energy cost and space requirements. While a typical seden can hold 5 people(6 with bench seats) typically it’s the driver is the only person with a passenger sometimes. A full sized 3 row suv ,3 row station wagon or 3 row minivan may hold 7-9 nine people depending on which rows have bench seats. How many people are hauling that many passengers on a daily basis pretty much zero only once a year for a family vacation with aunts and uncles or transporting a lot of your family to Easter or Christmas lunch. And people rarely use their vehicles for towing or using their trunks for transporting often except a few times a year.
If we use other transportation methods then we can use less road space for daily activities by using alternative modes of transportation and use cars when we need to tow or haul many people or whatever.
A car is a good way to transport a single person or small group over medium distances. A car is a poor way to transport lots of people and that is where problems occur. (before getting into the environmental impacts, which cars are absolutely terrible in that regard)
@@tonywalters7298 true
I like trains.
I would like to confess that I put little to none thought into this comment. Nonetheless, I felt like I had to bring it to light as it is significantly relevant to the topic of this video.
On another note, in my hometown of Staten Island, NY, the R211 trains were delayed another 16 months from arriving -_-. Oh well, I don't mind sitting on the old R44s, only problem I have is how noisy and rough they get sometimes at high speeds (probs like 30 - 40mph tbh).
I loved your blurb that centrists really are taking political stances. It’s really just taking a stance that the status quo is acceptable. We see them on RUclips and IRL.
Great add on to the main video, thanks for releasing it!
This format is perfect👍💯 No need for editing, raw & genuine Alan is the best 👌 💯
Lhasa-chengdu 1,629 km , 50 Billon 200 km/h HSR in tibet by 2030 . Crazy china 😂
Plise made video Soviet microdistrict vs USA Suburbia 🎉
You say people aren't graphs, but you provided exactly zero factual evidence for the assumptions you were making in your rebuttal to the induced demand part. Like, you painted a pretty picture about "people going to places" or whatever, but exactly none of it was supported by actual evidence, or studies, or even an article. You're basically just talking out of your ass and ASSUMING you're correct because it feels like it; and I don't even necessarily disagree with your conclusions, but you can't just look at a video citing and analyzing actual studies and data, and just go "nah, that's not how people work, this is dumb!" and then assume whatever you think is automatically correct.
counterpoint: last I checked i didn't need excel.exe to survive
Who knew people have been living even relatively fine for their conditions before the foundation of modern statistics?
There’s plenty of other videos about Induced Demand which are just citing and referencing studies. Vox have done quite a few. But not everyone is just convinced by studies, especially because you can get a study to agree with anything if you set it up right. I took AF’s video to be explaining the logic behind the conclusions which those studies come to. That’s one level below even explaining a study’s methodology, it’s discussing what types of things are even quantifiable and which things need to be assessed qualitatively.
Are you saying you need factual evidence that people go to places??
In your world do people just drive around on endless stroads and highways, never having a destination??
His points are common sense and not something that you can logically argue against.
@@bubba842 Obviously people go places, but I need actual evidence that actually links this fact to how congestion forms, and how much of it, and exactly where. You can't just say "well people go places, therefore induced demand".
Your commentary on EE and channels like them are spot on and one of the reasons why a lot of those channels have gone off my subscription list. The illusion of political neutrality is such an insidious poison.
@anguschandler4482 You're going through a couple leaps of logic from what I said. To respond directly to what you think I said, I think it's perfectly rational that one can assume that a person is making a good faith attempt to be neutral and has no bad motives and still think that the neutrality itself is a poisonous trap. Neutrality is a choice for the status quo, whatever that may be, regardless of if the person is thinking deeply about it or has their own motives behind it.
But also, in context of this video and the fact that I am directly responding to Alan discussing neutrality on inherently political topics, any kind of media that is attempting to be "neutral" can only truly be neutral and unbiased if they are reporting a fact. eg. "It rained today." So any channel that is pushing an idea that they are "neutral" entities, if they are saying anything other than pure unrefutable facts, it inherently is not neutral and one should be taking a more critical lens to it to analyze.
I'm happy the video came out! It needed to happen! Also, you have your own schedule... Don't worry, we'll be fine if you take your time!
Are you a full time RUclipsr now?
im watching this from Haneda airport, on my way from Hefei to New York. Hefei to Shanghai on China HSR, Shanghai to Haneda (Tokyo) via ANA, Haneda to New York via ANA. I have no doubt the China HSR part will be the best. Its very smooth, lots of space, you can get up and walk around. It is very impressive. The willingness for the chinese government to simply _build the thing_ is incredible.
I like this format as-is. It adds context to the decisions in rhetoric that you've made. Good by me.
Also, I addressed this on Twitter but not sure if the thread was muted so I'd like to add a little bit of insight to China's rail network here. China is a huge nation but proper long-term planning seemed to have helped build their network. Also, they've automated the design process applicable to uneven terrain. As a standard process (according to my prof.), flattening the floor (subgrade) underneath the road/rail requires identifying the cross-section shape at each posted station along a road path and individually correcting their shape. In a paper published by ASCE, they focused on automating the cutting and filling necessary to flatten the subgrade. It isn't a light read, but it's very informative. I'd rather that more than 34 people have downloaded/read the paper to stimulate discussion around it.
More generally, if the local soil condition allows building directly on top as opposed to building an elevated right-of-way (not always possible, i suspect), this could be an important best-practice for any US/national CE firm. That is, if Americans are actually serious about building an extensive HSR/regular rail network within their lifetimes.
The paper is named Railway Line Cross-Section Drawing and Earthwork Calculation Based on AutoCAD Secondary Development.
I might not read that but basically that's how they built some section of Qinghai-Tibet railway. the ground is permafrost meaning if you build something on top of it, the ground turn into mud (there are ways to mitigate it, yes but). So whenever possible they opt for digging deep below the prmafrost to the real bedrock to build pylons on top of which they lay elevated tracks. This is more expensive but the process is now more streamlined (the pylons are not too different from each other) and you basically eliminate any future threat from changing environment on the surface.
Unrelated but they have zero fatality from altitude sickness while building that, pretty cool.
I know a guy who works on cars in the Hershey area so you could add first hand-knowledge into the mix (and Hershey isn't that difficult to get to as there are busses that go from Harrisburg into town-its just the Hersheypark shuttle hasn't been restored since COVID)
I discussed your video with my brother, who actually lives in China. According to him, the issue of the station being far outside the city centre is not a problem that he has encountered in the cities he has visited, even lower tier cities
It's not a problem, just not super convenient. Usually it means taking the metro out to the end of a line. Which sure, with luggage I can see that as being mildly inconvenient, and I've been in that situation before. That and sometimes the train arrives when the metro is closed, which means that the rider usually has to resort to taxis/ride share. It should never force a personal car trip though, and that I think is what the system is designed for.
@sesenkodude Sorry, to be clear, what I meant was that the station being far outside the city centre is just not the case. It may well be in some cities, but not ones he has visited.
@@lizb7271 Gotcha. It's probably true of the ones that had very old stations.
Wuhan is actually an amusing example. The urban development isn't really central to one region, it's actually split up in three centers (Hankou, Hanyang, Wuchang), because the city is just administratively pasted together. So really those rail stations are a lot closer to their respective centers (Hankou and Wuchang).
2:53 Channeling Uncle Roger
This explains a lot, actually: the original video sounded like you weren't actually responding to the actual video you were supposed to be responding to, most of the stuff you talked about was kind of missing the point. I guess the reason is you just had these topics in mind you wanted to talk about already, and you kind of shoved them all into a response video...
"missing the point" ah yes the point of (checks notes) that we shouldn't have high speed-rail because it'll go to nowhere? (cough cough places GREW because train stations were built first at said places)
Just say you don't want to give up your elitist car mentality and leave
@@primercommentariowtf, thats not even close to the point EE was making nor AF was responding to