China is Already Replacing Russia in Siberia
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
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As Russia's war with Ukraine continues, China is taking advantage of Russia's situation in several ways - including to settle old grievances in Siberia.
Now, Putin is having to give major concessions to Xi Jinping as the Sino-Russian relationship shows more cracks than either nation is willing to admit on the surface.
We talk about everything from Ukraine to Outer Manchuria, and why the future of Russia is threatened more and more with each passing day that the War in Ukraine continues.
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I think the US & EU would Join Russia against China because we don't Want China with that Much More Land and Resources...
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Wait Icarus project,
the art of war talks about a Confucianist perspective on warfare rather than an actual type of warfare the people liberation army uses
Why are your maps consistently showing Crimea as part of the Russian federation?
This is not the case, since Crimea is part of Ukraine.
Scandalous and inappropriate.
And nobody shed a tear for Russia.
Spain was ruled by blacks for 750 years.
Huns were from Mongolia.
Avars were from Mongolia and ruled Austria for 200 years.
Müll im Kopf ist auch Umweltverschmutzung, schauen Sie in den Spiegel 😁😁
Trust me people will . just like when they shed tears for ussr and germany . People love losers .
if it happens the west will end up aiding Russia for the same reason we aided the COMMUNIST soviet union (who was our biggest enemy on earth) when the Nazi's invaded them. The same reason France and Britain aided Turkey against Tsarist Russia in the Crimea. Its not about who you like, its about keeping a balance of powers and denying gains to powerful enemies.
As no one should have
Even 20 years ago it was well known that China calls Siberia the "Northern Resource Zone"
@Booz2020as stupid as it might sound, I think Siberia would be better of in China than in Russia, for development at least
And I think we all know what Japan called much of Far East in the late 30's.
@Booz2020 Since it is Russian territory, its NEVER lol.
@@CrisCheese_ More development, sure. Quality development, not at all. I'd personally rather see Siberia remain wild than filled with tofu dreg Chinese cities that crumble after 3 years.
Maybe China can take it and turn it into a park system. Then everyone wins, at least everyone aside from Russia, in which case who cares lol. But they won't; they'll strip mine all the minerals and destroy the land...
@@CrisCheese_it most certainly would be in better hands. Have you seen towns and infrastructure in Siberia lol
By pootins own logic, if China feels threatened, they have the right to denastify ruzzia.
True, China has that right according to Putlers logic. 😂
They "educate" all CHINESE students, that they all come from a separate GENETICAL branch, that are superior.
So the foundation for demagogs, have already been prepped.Chinese supprice attack, can thus be seen, as a superiour intelligens at work.
China gets back lost territory with vast resources, USA gtfo away forever from the coastlines and meddling in trade China shall: leave Taiwan alone, help Ukraine rebuild ( since in-directly part of war ). Secondary objectives: Closer knit bond with India trade some territory, share by quota the south china sea, mend relations with Japan. Its possible. Or do I have to replace Xi?😂
De nazzz ru, please
Well Ukraine has nasis so idk what to tell ya
If Russia is falling apart into smaller countries, then that´s for the better.
Everyone is scared of warlordism in a post-empire Russia, but there's no guarantee it will end up like that. The USSR broke up without much conflict, perhaps the Russian Federation can do the same.
@@Uncle_Fred ironically it depends on how much the west supports ukraine. ukraine gave up nukes for security that the west isn't really providing. that's not going to encourage a simple break up
So, instead of one country with nukes, there will be several countries with nukes. I don't see how this is better.
Oligarchs will pounce
@@insertcognomen Ukraine isn't in Nato... and it's rather unclear if Ukraine would benefit from having nukes at this moment.
Really not sure what you are saying here.
More people should be talking about this. This limitless friendship apparently includes surprise reach-arounds... price of being a predatory dictatorship surrounding yourself with predatory dictatorships. In this world you need to know who you can trust. This is why NATO exists and actually works.
If you havent noticed Russia just held elections while the 'democratic' Zelensky REFUSED to, so Russia the democracy is fighting against Ukraine the dictatorship!
It doesn't work.
unless your france, then you just get your ass handed to you by so called "allies" and be forced to stomach it.
And why UN exists to protect international borders and small countries and the people how lives in them. But Russia and China think that they are above that
@z: Is that why Sweden and Finland joined?
8:26 "Nations don't have allies, they have interests" - damn, that's heavy! Almost like a line from the HBO's Wire "Money have no owners, only spenders", said by Omar.
In a related note, Chinese influence over Russia's sphere of influence in Central Asia is rapidly expanding too.
What's easy to forget is that China's sphere of influence is rapidly expanding everywhere the BRI goes. Europe.. Hungary, Serbia, All over Africa, Middle East, and now the South China Sea countries are noticeably falling more into their sphere. If anything Russia & China have the most equal partnership regardless of the countless propaganda. However, this is a very interesting video and is certainly something I will follow in the future. Ultimately that bit of land is nothing really, and importantly we don't know the reasoning. Ultimately the land the part of Eastern Ukraine that Russia will capture is far more substantial, logistically, as an industrial base and possibly greater control of the Black sea. Not to mention the surrounding former Soviet states and CSTO states will unofficially become NovaRussia of the 21st century. The last 2yrs have elevated Russia to being the Global centre for BRICS
@@GManzi673 Ever here the phrase $h*t a Bric?
@@GManzi673 The occupation of cities destroyed by his own henchmen in one of the poorest countries in Europe in violation of pretty much all international agreements and with enormous losses is all the Putin regime can boast of in terms of conquests so far.😂
Naturaly they were Western colonies, now enjoying education, no child slave labor, health benefits, trains, travel, enough food.China builds the infra structure Russia provides the grains, fertilizer farm machines, irrigation etc!
CENTRAL ASİA MORE LİKELY TALİBAN PAKİSTANİ TURRKİSH OVER CONTROL THAN CHİNESE TRADE AND RUSSİANS WERE FALLEN.
A quick look at the map shows us that Chinas goal of projecting into the Pacific is easier to achieve by a land invasion of Manchuria than a sea invasion of Taiwan
That is correct, but militarily Russia is still the more dangerous target, because Russia has nuclear weapons and Taiwan has not.
However, if their would be no nuclear weapons in play, China would have already invaded Siberia. There is nothing the Russian could do to stop them with conventional forces.
While Russia has 3 times the population of Ukraine, China has 10 times the population of Russia...
@user-mm7zi4ue7d It is not the 19th century anymore. China made huge leaps in technology and the Russians certainly do not have a significant technological egde over the Chinese today. However, if there isn´t a huge gap in technology, numbers count A LOT.
China has ten times the population of Russia and ten times the GDP.
It would be foolish to discuss this fact away.
It would be more difficult for Russia to keep their Eastern Siberian flank supplied compared to the Ukraine front line.
@user-mm7zi4ue7d Japan is an African country after being conquered by black G.I.'s...they "service" black G.I.'s since the days of "Yasuke"...
@@EroticOnion23take your schizo pills bro
Yes, I think Putin is getting pretty screwed by XI😊😊😊
China will not do anything stupid to get wiped off the planet. China see USA more as a threat
History and a few proper channels even on you tube@ Good start : OUR COUNTRY, OUR CHOICE a US organization working for the 200 million homeless and poor citizen's!
Putins face says it all, he doesn’t like it but is left with few options
He will go to history as a complete disaster it seems.
screwed in his pootin rear
Nice video. I am surprised you didn't mention Russia granting the Chinese port access to Vladivostok. That is a big, major factor inside of this.
When in forestry school in the early '80s one of my professors had just done a forestry tour of Russia. He took the Trans Siberian Railway and saw endless stacks of logs. He said China was buying up a lot of wood. They would buy a timber sale and sell the Russians modern logging equipment. The trouble was the Chinese would strip everything off the land. Then, they would charge a huge markup on parts for the equipment used to buy the sales. Or, not sell the Russians replacement parts at all leaving the Russians holding the back on stripped land.
For years I've been reading about Russians in places like Irkutsk complaining about Chinese workers outnumbering and outcompeting the local population in key industries, and how they (the Chinese workers) refer to Lake Baikal as "our lake" and "northern province". Those taunts are sounding more real by the day.
Russians being outrusski'd. Almost comes under the heading of delicious irony eh!?
can you provide any sources? i've never heard of that from russians
@@yyyy12344 No great surprise that Russia does not wish to acknowledge it and thus probably the reason no Russians know of it it to discuss with you.
It featured in one of these two books. I've read them both. Both books have since been sent to a charity shop for resale so cannot do the double check on your behalf.
Age of Walls by Tim Marshall
World of Walls by Said Sadiki
It may even be mentioned in both of them. Neither is a particularly joyful read if my memory serves me right but I was fascinated enough to have finished both of them in a few days.
@@Scaleyback317 according to google, chinese people are 4% of population in the far east part of Russia, and this number is the highest across Russia. Maybe you mixed up chinese with central asians?
@@yyyy12344 No, I have not mixed up Chinese with anyone. The author may have, you would have to approach him on that matter.
China and Russia are like Germany and Soviet Union in the 1930s
I would say theyre more like nazi Germany and facist Italy. Nazi Germany, the stronger and more powerful partner, enabling Mussolini to wage his imperialist wars and backing him up against the western powers, gaining an ally against the West and making Italy dependent of the German economy. It didnt end well for Italy: in the end, they were occupied by the Wehrmacht and plundered for the German war effort.
China represents the USSR and Russia represents Germany.
cope
@@ettoreatalan8303
germany invaded every neighbour.
russia is entangled in war in ukraine were million of russians live.
cope harder, no one is evil and blood thirsty as the west.
@@saccount-z3 cope what?
Imagine how much Siberia will change if China owns it. Infrastructure, population-replacement, new cities, mines and mills.
Chinas too broke right now for that much infrastructure
China has their own "Siberia", the western part of the country is barely populated. Historically. the chinese population has always been striving towards south-eastern coastline.
Pollution
@@valezza1 Except Siberia has water and natural resources that China would love to own. Western China is a wasteland.
And gulags (laogais).
what goes around comes around
then i would be worried about the west the most..
@@saccount-z3 worry not neanderthal, think about your poor mud hut
@@alex990ism
are you still part of majority in your own country? or are you replaced, owning nothing and happy?
@@saccount-z3 well the west is getting invaded by third-worlders so they are already feeling the effects of it.
Don't worry about such powerful countries.
Sounds interesting.China might give Russia a taste of its own medicine.BRICS
It’s not about giving Russia a taste of its own medicine, it’s all self interest for China. China can use Russia to attack and distract the West, while gaining a powerful nuclear ally and access to cheap energy. At the same time because Russia is dependent on China they can claim territory from Russia easier.
Watch Clayton Morris Redacted the start of 5 minutes will show you why 100 wars, civil and proxy wars were started by US, UK and why 100's of millions of people killed and starved to death, in Yemen, Ethiopia, Iraq, Palestine to mention only a few!
That's why in 2002 CIA, MI6 entered Ukraine, Georgia trying to cause a coup and weaken Russia! However in 1993/94 when IMF charged them 100% interest rate for borrowed money, they started to work harder as they are a country that is self sufficient in everything for at least 200 years, and this is why the US, UK, EU wants to cut them up so they can control every mineral, ore, oil, gas, coal, good soil but for only a few rich families! South Korea is owned by 6 families only with many just as poor as the citizen's of the USA! Of 340 million 1 million homeless in every state (50) there are around 200 million living in abject poverty, with 30 million plus children hungry every day! At least 50 million still working for 1977 wages rate, which is around $13,000 to 15,000 a year before tax! That's worse than slaves had, as slaves had food and shelter so they could work! 100 million no health insurance or treatment without money!
Chinese are tempted but they know IF they invade Siberia,US and NATO will immediately aid Russia . 😅
@@vincelycaner4259 Lol Russia should stop its war with Ukraine and withdraw back to their homeland if they ever want help from the US to prevent any Chinese invasion on Russia.
It is about economy, Russia does not have a strong economy to financially sustain a vast country, on top of that the climate is not favorable to investments compare to other regions.
Last but not the least, Turkey dreams to become leader of Muslims population in central Asia and rebuilt the Ottoman empire.
It seems Putin gets what he bargained for.
Russia is the first economy in Europe
Сколько много стереотипов из Голливуда.
The price Russia is willing to pay for Ukraine (while ceding eastern territory to China) emphasizes the point you make; it is about GDP (and intellectual property assets). Ukraine is a huge hunk of territory + resources.
@@MsTyrie Это территории, земли для сельского хозяйства, железные руды, уголь (самый дорогой на планете - антрацит), возможность сделать Азовское море внутренним морем России, промышленность и конечно 7 миллионов славян (эта цифра включает Крым, Донбасс, Херсонскую и Запорожскую области, а так же мигрантов из Украины в Россию). Это десятки триллионов долларов, которые предстоит освоить. А восстановление городов на долгие годы подстегнет строительный сектор экономики. Но не думаю, что на этом все закончится. Если Молдавия нападет на Приднестровье, война получит новый виток.
First economy for what ? russian economy is failing apart.@user-wn8fy7pw3f
China should do it. With global anger against Russia over their invasion of Ukraine, not many allies would come to Russia’s aid. Many countries would be upset if Taiwan was invaded. How many would give a crap if Russia lost half of their territory?
the only people who hate russia are woke people and lgbt...
China is more hated than Russia across the world. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
I think it's beyond adorable that Putler's just been using the 1950's playbook on it's enemies and even it's allies.
So China went "Aight. We'll use your 2020's playbook on YOU."
"wait what?" cried out Putler only for the Chinese response to be
"And the 19th century one. ,,!,, =) "
You confused Ukraine with Russia lol.
you are a drone
There is always a bigger fish...
and how will china take siberia without russia using nukes explain that
@@saccount-z3 yeah these people seem to forget that we live in a nuclear age now, all these analyses are pre-nuclear age which is just driving me insane...
@@saccount-z3 you don't invade, you buy what you need at a substantial discount
@@skipperson4077why wage war when U can throw money 💰😅
@@saccount-z3 China can easily afford to lose 100 million people. Russia can't (population now = 144 million). So Russia won't send nukes to China. Plus Russia has lost some missile defence systems in Ukraine. And even Ukraine can evade Russia's air defences sometimes. So Putin won't use his nukes.
Dictators think like predators. If they can inch their way for more territory, even if they’re “allies,” they will. What’s sad is that Putin has no choice but to reluctantly agree. His expressions with each signing or hug shows this while Xi breaks face out of enthusiasm and excitement and affection.
Just the tip...
@c : Putin the cabin boy! :D
Not just oil and gas, probably the most important resource over the coming decades will be water, which Russia and specifically Siberia, have vast amounts. China is already taking drastic steps to provide more water.
Exactly. Russia has the world‘s largest freshwater lake, and China has already taken business / economic steps towards it. Russia prevented them, but this was before the war in Ukraine. When Russia falls apart, I‘m sure some warlord will be glad to sell off the lake to China for some fat Belt and Road profit.
@@advancetotabletop5328 You are 100% correct. Lake Baikal will give China all the water they need. It used to be part of China, and is so close they can almost taste it. Now would be the perfect time for them to move on it. Here's hoping......
It will be incredibly interesting to see how this develops. Thanks.
When Russia lost in February 1856 Crimean War. Proposed to United States in 1859 sale of Alaska. When Russia lost in 2024 war with Ukraine again over Crimea. Russia offers to sell to China large territories in Asia.
Its apparent now that the russians will prevail in Ukraine.
Those who believe BRICS is gonna rival the west 😂
Brics is an economical alliance not a military one,and they just make up just 5% of global gdp.
@@stanescusilviu9509 5%? China share of global gdp is like 17% , India 10%, Russia 4%, Brazil 2.6%.
That's like 25% already.
@@valezza1 hope for a dedolarization of the world too man,you probably right with those statisics,from the gold standard leave of the dolar to now when it's value is only on paper it was not a long way.Hope of a world where nations make transactions and fair trade exists.But we just might have our biggest drop since forver ....in 2035 there will be only electric cars made in Europe and most of the petrol in the world is sold in dolars.At some point we will have a drop,but after mabye all will be better.
...it s just a club of "leader for life" autocrats, "leader for life" wannabe autocrats and basket case economies.
I have wondered for over a year why China has not been taking bites out of Eastern Russia
because nato exist, same reason why france, britain, germany, italy, US, australia etc dont fight among each other basicaly.
I’m sure they’re doing it economically. Even before the war, they were going after the worlds’ largest freshwater lake, located in Russia.
The Chinese are very patient people.
I too have been thinking along them lines.
If and when China 🇨🇳 annexes Russia’s east, no one will stop them, Russia brought this upon themselves. Let Russia 🇷🇺 suffer the consequences.
The karma has spoken.
This also gives China a natural incentive for not supplying weapons to Russia. These can be used against them.
Where the golf carts come in. Dual purpose
Actually it's the opposite. The longer Russia is locked into the Ukrainian conflict the weaker Russia gets. China will get small parts of strategically important land in exchange for equipment. But the big gain will come if Russia collapses or become severely weakened as a consequence of the war. Because then Siberia is ripe for the taking.
But you are right, they probably wont give Russia weapons that are useful in the long term.
@@yesss5773 Regardless of what happens, Russia will always have its nukes that it would absolutely use if invaded. No country would ever risk getting nuked over trying to steal some territories. This scenario only exists in the delusional fantasies of anti-Russian clowns.
Well, the weapons will be Made in China, and you know how that will turn out. :D In fact, in the initial attack on Kyev, Russian armored vehicle tires went flat b/c corrupt Russian higher-ups bought the cheaper tires that were… Made in China. :O
Who in their right mind would want weapons from China?
I like the well thought out video, but why would China bother annexing a substantial amount of territory when instead they can have Russia develop their resources for their own dime, and then China can demand massive discounts on the output because they're the dominant buyer? No upfront capital cost, and reliably cheap commodities (ie. see Gazprom's loss in the most recent fiscal year)
Stop showing russian map with crimea included!
stock footage be like... 😒
yeah should include those 4 oblast too
but Crimea is Russian. to get there you need to have a Russian visa, not a Ukrainian one😂
@Notrusbot No it's not. It's been occupied by Russia
In this video and others I made direct and clear statements that Crimea is occupied territory of Ukraine. Hopefully my position on that is clear :)
Unfortunately, map software automatically includes Crimea when you input Russia. This is sometimes difficult to catch when making dozens of animations for one video - especially when outside animators help with those. It’s not because I think Crimea is part of Russia. It’s because extra work needs to be done every time an animation of Russia is created to remove it, and that step can be missed.
(Sincerely - I’m a RUclipsr with a day job, not a media network with unlimited resources :))
Lithuania declared the sovereignty of its territory on 18 May 1989 and declared independence from the Soviet Union on 11 March 1990 as the Republic of Lithuania.
Russia and China almost went nuclear over the Ossuri Oblast
Democracies and dictatorships behave fundamentally differently on the world stage. The nature of democracies is to gradually liberalize and coalesce with one another, forming free trade agreements, encouraging the progression of human rights, and uniting in various spheres to collaborate on their ultimate shared interest: widespread prosperity. Dictatorships, conversely, are perpetually paranoid of one another, allying only out of fear, and remaining forever vigilant of the inevitable betrayal.
Russia: *invades ukraine*
China: *gets ideas*
This is not a question of if, but when.
"Western Chinese Provinces" - formerly known as Ruzzian Federation.
Thanks so much for creating and sharing this informative video. Great job. Keep it up.
Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
Well, if China is going to make this move, it will have to make it relatively soon due to their own demographics due to the "one child" policy from 1980-2016. That caused a serious shortage of young Chinese men and an aging population. No matter what policy a government may choose, it still takes 18 years to make an 18 year old man while every year more men reach retirement age. Every year China delays, the weaker its armed forces become. So if your premise is correct, it will have to happen soon. Russia is at the lowest strength it has been in decades and they, too, have the same demographic problem. A problem made worse by the hundreds of thousands of Russian men lost in the war with Ukraine, the massive amount of military equipment lost and a shortage of men to work in the heavy industries required to make more military equipment. Interesting times!
Spot on!
It's not the only concern that the CCP has about the consequences of the One Child Policy. People are concerned that it might have bred a nation of children spoiled rotten by doting parents and grandparents; they are called "Little Emperor" (小皇帝 Xiǎo huángdì) in Chinese. Such spoiled children don't make good soldiers.
There are 1.4 billion chinese and 140 million ruskies. china have plenty of potential soldiers. russia can't even take smaller country by population and economics.
No you are wrong. Russia loose faster population than China.
The demographics of China and Russia are both terrible but China still has 10 times the population. They won´t run out of troops.
The problem for the Chinese army is that it large and has modernized a lot but it has no organizational experience of actually fighting a war.
The last time China went to war was more than 40 years ago against Vietnam and that wasn´t even a success.
I think that China will try to bully it´s way by taking advantage of Russia´s economic squeeze.
Xi reads Sun Tsu and waits for Putin at the corner... Manchuria and Russia's far east are much bigger and handy for him than the small Taiwan island...
Xi : Let‘s you and him fight. :D
Outer Manchuria was lost as the outcome of the Second Opium War - same as Hong-Kong so there is no doubt that when time is right - China will get it back same as it got Hong-Kong back. But I think that currently China prefers to control whole Russia economically...
Hong Kong was on a 99 yr lease to the UK.
Russia isn't doing much with Siberia anyway. The Chinese can develop it far more than drunken Russia. Then again, China's population is about to start decreasing also. Parts of India and pakistan that are about to lose water should move up there.
"Therefore, modern Manchuria is entirely the product of the Soviet era. We know and remember well that it was shaped - for a significant part - on the lands of historical China."
Best friends as always.
Please use “Kyiv” for the Ukrainian capital. “Kiev” is the Russian spelling.
xenophobe!
💩@@ak-od7mf
Its Kiev kiddo.
@@nemiw4429 it's not ruzzky 🇷🇺 bot 🤡
ywnbaw
While im not a fan of it, wanting china to have control of Siberia seems geopolitically stupid.
fuel to a fire one could say
also im not a fan of "historical claims" as they conveniently ignore the current will of the local people using overwhelming military threat.
Putin would immediately get overthrown by his own people if he merely entertained that idea
"Don't do wrongs to people that you don't want to be done to you" is a loose transaltion of a dutch expression that fits this story perfectly
It's not just Dutch, it's the 'Golden Rule'.
The map transitions are jarring. Changing the color of the same region and the perspective from map to map throws off a viewer's point of reference.
The way the blue is used makes it look like a sea or lake.
Honestly I'm not to sound like an ass...but I had to keep backing up to make sure the map was same region.
I really do love your videos.
Dont start a land war in asia, everyone knows this 🤦
That is advice for Europeans.
"Inconceivable!!"
I love that scene from "The Princess Bride"!
In a case of a war of attrition between these two, the bottlenecks that Ukraine is actually facing in terms of human resources to fight against Russian invasion because of the population differential of both country (and the willingness of more human sacrifices in the front line from Russia), will be even bigger for Russia as China may have the same willingness of human sacrifices in the front line as Russia, but with a population differential far bigger in favor of China than the one between Russia and Ukraine. And Russia will never risk a nuclear confrontation with China that would let them both wiped out, letting the USA the sole superpower in the planet..., so, any confrontation between China and Russia should be only a conventional one.
Vatniks will claim that its a stronger connection between Russia and China. This underlining agreement is just the starting point for China to make in-roads and eventually claim pieces of Russia. They are also doing the same with India's northeast region with the Doklam pass. However, that's a bit more different than Russia... same playbook, just slightly different variation.
Yep. Search on “unequal treaties russia china“.
I've been seeing this too, especially when you consider that Russia can only reinforce through the Trans-Siberia Railway. This is a very narrow, easily interdicted corridor. I'm not sure Russia could reinforce it sufficiently even without the Ukraine War. Russia is being run into the ground by Putin. He should have pivoted Qest after the end of the Cold War and joined the EU and Nato. Might not be too late but it will probably require Putin to slip on the soap.
I refuse to believe that Putin is NOT a deep CIA mole.
No other explanation makes sense. He has single-handedly destroyed RF through the world's largest criminal enterprise, the goal of which has been to enrich himself and his cronies.
Yeah since Putin is losing land, his SPECIAL OPERATION has turned into a SPECIAL AMPUTATION!! 😂😂😂
Last year I commented that China should take back all the land Putin annexed from them while he is busy with Zelensky. You tube banned me for 24 hours for hate speech. Now its fine.
True, I have predicted this since the start of the invasion.
Yeah, I don't know why China insists on following the Japanese Empires failed WWII southern strategy and conflict with the Allies, when a northern strategy and conflict with Russia appears to be far better. The resources China wants and "needs" are right there and Russia is weak. Even if China is successful with Taiwan, what do they really gain? South China sea? All these places require a massive navy to secure from the Allies. That all said, both Germany and Japan are uber rich today. They didn't need to fight wars or have resources to become that way. Russia and China neither one needs this either so, it's just not smart what they are doing for no reason.
俄罗斯克格勃渗透美国，通俄总统破坏中美贸易体，普京给予了中美所有剧本。
Self aggrandisement. Ask Xi
Those little islands are weaker than Russia and the only reason why you think they're stronger is because they're getting more foreign aid. Not only that, China isn't allied against Russia with people crying about China.
Russia is currently the strongest nation in the world, stupid. It's by far the strongest neighbor that China has. This "northern strategy" can't even be contemplating because it involves the risk of getting nuked. That right there makes it not even an option.
Your statement echoes the western propaganda. Chinese maritime claim has not change since in the 1940s, and if you insist on comparing China's water cannon with the Japanese literally butchering the whole population of Manila, you need help.
Forget about Siberia: In the middle there are all those Muslim "Republics" who would much rather be getting cheques from the Gulf than paying taxes to Moscow.
Ukraine is largely a matter of Putin distracting himself from his even bigger worries everywhere east of the Urals.
No no no, outer Manchuria has a greater claim to China. It was a Manchurian empire, not a Chinese empire. The Qing were Manchurian.
Manchuria and Manchurians are non existent entities
If you want to get technical.
Today the land is Russia, before that to Qing Dynastic (China does not exist as legal entity until 1949) Before that another Empire, then Mongols, then another Dynasty then another Then another ....
Technically the land always belong to someone else, if you go back far enough.
When nations argue the land belong to them, they're all wrong, all of them. If you pick date further back, we'll find out it didn't belong to them.
whats so interesting about these discussions is that its only Russia and Germany who are never allowed to regain nor have any legitimate claims to territory...
A glaring double standard.
They may be “wrong“ but that doesn‘t mean they won‘t claim a “right“ to retake “their“ land! :O
i.e.
Spains wants Gibraltar back
But they won't give up Ceuta and Melila from Morocco.
Every country got double standards. It's so silly.
China will especially want the Russian land north of Mongolia. The largest freshwater lake by volume, with about 20% of the world's fresh water, is there.
China needs water thanks to global climage change. Either they get that lake, or divert a river in Tibet that 200 million people depend on in India (plus people in Bhutan and Bangladesh). If China doesn't get the Russian water, a major war with India is inevitable, and Chinese casualties in that war would number millions.
So glad to see Ikar upload again.
Great video ❤
Yep, China must have outer Manchuria back after it was stolen
This is why Russia has Nukes
this is whats so tiresome... Everyone is doing these pre-nuclear-age analyses.
This is why China never wanted to join the START treatys. They will have 1000 high yield thermonuclear weapons launchable within 2 years. Unlike Russia and the USA, which are limited to only 600 launchable due to the treaties.
I am also willing to gamble USA currency that China and USA nuclear weapons are reliable
If I were China I'd make a move in 2027, it's when everyone is expecting China to invade Taiwan, unlike Taiwan there's little political fallout for invading old Chinese lands in mainland Asia. Russia has so very few friends and people willing to openly trade with him. The US wouldn't interfere, we'd just sit back and eat pop corn.
Think of all the space to fill with condos!
It's always cold in Siberia
She was a merc. Her home does not exist anymore.
There is a time in the Future that China makes this move and Russia Begs the west to help them and you know who is there to help? Ukraine.
It's my understanding this has been going on for some time now. It has been explained China has been sending small groups of military age men further and further into what was (until the Chinese turned up) Russia. They form a settlement and just wait for Russia to protest. It rarely happens, there is is nothing Russia can do to prevent it - too far away for Russia to be effective. This is a constantly repeated process.
you go china & take back all land that russia took from the middle kingdom. russia currently is a mess, plus so much sanctions & tariffs from the west. also, internal conflicts, weak ecomony, current wars, etc. taking back land from russia should be a walk in the park. bravo china on all your dreams, goals & economy prowess... from your good friends and supporters at brazil, france & africa!
If I were Pres. Putin I’ll focus on Siberia. Leave Ukraine alone as an independent country.
The money he has wasted on the war would have finished his northern seaport and all the housing and infrastructure necessary. Nuclear plants for power. Vehicles and highways for transport of timber and ore for processing. It would have employed over a half million people. The same number that have been killed.
@@Glenn-F-Rice You nailed it. A weak leader who easily succumb to the devil’s snares, without consideration to his people lives as well as the lives of other people. This must be a lesson learned to China.
@@cershe Mother Russia has had her retirement stolen by Putin and his Oligarchy fiends. She has to go back to work for at least 30 years. Thank You for your comment.
It would be stupid for China to NOT take Siberia from Russia. It's just sitting there for the taking. It has everything China needs for their manufacturing economy.
russian nukes?
@@saccount-z3 Russia isn't going to nuke it's self! That would be stupid, they want the land to be usable
@@eternalManchild
my question is.. how is china going to take siberia without russia using nukes on china?
never in the history has nuclear power been invaded.
@@saccount-z3 China is a nuclear power too. Russia isn't going to use Nukes, just like it's not using nukes on Ukraine unless nukes are used on it. If China just took Siberia it would have all the resources it buys from Russia in it's own borders and would drastically improve it's relationship with the west by not supporting Russian aggression. "China will not stand by as aggressors use force to destroy our rules based peace. We stand by our allies in the west!" China would get new territory rich resources, AND continue to improve market relationships with the west. Russia can barely fight in one front, let alone 2!
@@eternalManchild
yeah, russia is not using nukes in ukraine, since it is bordering ukraine, and radioactive smoke would reach russia too.
that is 1 reason, and reason number 2 is russia is not being invaded by ukraine, to use nukes on ukraine.
“If China just took Siberia”
yeah, just took, it’s actually that simple.
relations with west and china would not improve in that case, since china would become behemoth with 1.4 billion people, and with the landmass around 22 million square kilometers.
that would be larger than united states and europe combined. it would be even bigger competitor and threat in that case, since china would then not only have much larger landmass, but much more resurces, and access to arctic sea.
china taking over siberia is much bigger fear of the west than russia itself.
Russia is aware of NATO,yet China and Russia historically have had border issues. Putin, might want to pay better attention to his neighbor.
We're living in the Resource Wars from Fallout now...
8 Billion people on the Planet of Earth. This is just the beginning...
Russia conquered that island fair and square. However, there is nothing that says China can't do the same.
for anyone wondering, 135 sq miles is about 17.6 sq football fields
Need to redo the math. 640 acres is in a square mile
The one country "owning" Siberia will be the only country in the world controlling world food. Russia knows it, also China and U.S.A.
This is an interesting metric: MOST of the nations that have ever rebelled agains Moscow are today still nations. ALL of the ones that haven't... are not.
How about all the nations that went against the USA, are they still nations? e.g. Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Cuba, Iran?
@@jamesprivet nice try, but none of those were ever territories of the US ..
@@JefferySmiley exactly. WTF was the USA and UK doing to those countries? Look in the mirror at the horrors, war crimes and genocide inflicted on Libya and Iraq both for absolutely NO justification. Otherwise justify it. The US and its MIC-captured population leads the world in one thing and that is hypocrisy.
How perverse it would be to support Russia from Chinese aggression.
I wonder what plans the U.S. has in the case of the disintegration of Russia and a Chinese invasion of Siberia. (I doubt the second would occur without the first.)
Probably the same game-plan when the USSR disintegrated in 1990/91:
a) immediate nuclear non-proliferation treaties and inspections by UN.
b) integration into global norms: trade, law, governance, economic.
c) encourage move from military to civilian professions.
etc.
How much did the USA help out satellite states that broke off from Russia? I‘m gonna say that China will take over the future former Russian states economically with something like Belt and Road, not militarily b/c that will receive less attention.
If there is one country that remembers history it is China ...
XI has been to involved with tofu construction for fast fast money. Selling home to people before they were finished and then tearing them down to build more in the same spot. People got wise to this now there are 60 million unsold homes just sitting there. Now the government has lost its main income. The people are living in homes without windows and doors. Putin, Xi, Hamas, Netanyahu, Zelensky (isn't without corruption), and Biden's 14 million illegal cultural changers. What have they done that will never be undone?
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Apparently Chinese speakers in Siberia are being treated badly. According to Russian logic, China has a right to do something about that. Borders? Those don't mean anything.
Brilliant video my man, can't wait for the next one
Trying to conquer new territories by military force, failing and ultimately having to cede territory is something that almost every European country has experienced. Russia desperately wants China to benefit from this experience.
The real question is not whether China will try to take territory out of Russia: that is assured. The real question is what we are going to do about it, if anything
Good question! The Russians have destroyed their relationship with Europe and the West just when they need them most. The resources that have made them a great power are due to Siberia, if China takes that away from them it will be catastrophic, to them and the rest of the world. Perhaps the war in Ukraine will put an end to Putins regime and give way to further disintegration of Russia.
i dont think its 'assured' at all, you do realize that we live in a nuclear-age now?
I know what I am going to do, CHEER!!!
@@ak-od7mf hehe they already started!
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@@gerryhouska2859 I had the exact same reaction … at first. Then I thought how things might go if China gets all those resources
Man i love your video's much love from Seattle WA
If Siberia has few inhabitants, it is due to the hardy climate, barren soils, huge distances between cities.... Not everyone is as resistant, skilled and loner as a Siberian...
Perhaps Putin's greatest screw up. Letting his guard down in the east due to his misadventures in Ukraine.
This WILL happen. The Russian military is near collapse in Ukraine. Give it a few months and they'll start to run completely empty of artillery systems, tanks, apcs, ifvs, etc. That's assuming they make it to that point before the catastrophic casualties Russian personnel experience does not lead to a collapse of the front. And that's assuming Ukraine's continued attacks on Russian oil/gas infrastructure don't collapse Russia's ever shrinking economy.
I think 2025 is a good projection for China to make its move to reclaim all of Manchuria.
Bro Russia is pushing Ukraine slightly now💀 and china can’t take Siberia (Russia has nuces
Are you reading that from your fantasy novel released by The New York Times or something? Youd better check whats happening on the ground and that which you are stating is proven dramatically untrue.
Listen, i know that you and your kind doesnt want Russia to be good nor to do good but stop living in denial and promoting these pipe dreams please...
Not so fast...Russians are really building-up their military industry to produce more than they are losing in the front-line by transforming their economy in an economy of war...which, is true, it is also undermining all their future economy.
So, an economy collapse must be more likely than a military collapse. And, it is true, China is awaiting that this happens to take back these Russian Far East lands...
But for that, Russia may reach a point of strength as low as was the one of China in 1858, after losing the opium war with western nations...losing a war with western nations...any one see the parallel?
For that happens, we have to give to Ukraine far more than what we have given until now, in fact we have to give them what we gave to the USSR to fight Nazi Germany in the WWII, comparatively, no less!
Especially if there is a new revolution, like 1917
How many more territories will the Russians take?
This is Chinas bet chance ever to regain it lands ,While the cats away ,the mice do play
I am rooting for China over Russia. They actually have a very valid claim over Outer Manchuria.
I dont even trust Russia and China alike.
Both countries are looking for land grab conquest regardless.
If they stop working together 6.5 billion people will have to die according to the elite who's been making and sending infertility drugs in anti biotics and other medicine into certain countries! Their aim is maximum 1 billion as miners farmers, servants workers for the few million very rich! And I am not 1 of them! Thanks to China, Russia working together, we had a lot less starvation in poor African, Asian countries and more in, Palestine, Yemen Afghanistan where US, UK NATO involved and Russia, China not helping out yet!
I think the people of Siberia/Outer Manchuria should decide for themselves. They might even choose independence.
@@trikepilot101 The problem is the people of Manchuria don’t own the majority of the land. That is a scam Russia always plays. The evict all the native people and bring in the Russians. They these carpetbagging Russians vote to be part of Russia
@@trikepilot101between 2 hungry wolves? 😂 yeah, that’s not gonna fly without some 3rd party support
Not just Siberia but Russia itself is becoming more and more a Chinese economic colony everyday with sales of cars and domestic good booming due to western sanctions.
China should just change their slogan to "at least ee are not as bad as Russia"
China is the only adversary that poses a bigger threat to the U.S. than Russia. We're talking a nation of over 1 billion people.
I almost hope that Putin will still be alive to see it happen. 😆
Interesting point about the cultural take over. I always wondered what a Civ 6 victory looked like.
Only one difference, Russia has nukes even if the military isn’t that great ! Russia could fall from within 😱
China is in a far larger crisis than Russia.
If we are to believe in the official figures of China then 43% of their economy vanished with the collapse of the housing market and the financial sector.
That does not account for the huge reduction in consumption and reduction in export revenue.
Siberia should be an independent state- it was brutally conquered by Ivan the Terrible- and people fail to mention that the natives there suffered on a scale comparable to the Native Americans when Europeans arrived.
Great video, but you are unfortunately using the term Russia, to refer to Muscovy Duchy later renamed Russia to give itself more importance, USSR and Russian federation. Your audience very likely is not aware of the nuances that make a huge difference. Those are very different regimes, with different ideology and economic structure. Yet they are all united by one weird desire to seem more important to the world than they really are.
This just shows how uninformed he is that his first sentence about the Ukraine crisis is that he thinks that its a war for territorial gains...
Russia: Shake on it?
China: ...Bend over