Correction to the video: I knew within 1 hour of upping this the G1 does not have a heatsink, sorry! My video doesn't use a script, so this can happen. Trust me, you aren't the first one to bring this up. Using this in my video as a way to justify your purchase is a sad reach. Either way, I hope this helps anyone caught on the fence. Remember everyone: I only take the side of one thing - the PRODUCT in anything I review. Brands don't matter. It could be by "Big Bird" brand lol....
I really wanna see someone tear apart a G1. Just to see if there is any type of panel cooling tech implemented. Bc it’s kinda amazing how the G1 suffers from virtually no temporary IR. I mean, obviously you can make it have some, just like you can make the A90J have some. But the G1 recovers very quickly, and rarely shows any signs of having temporary IR. Where a set like the A80J, has very noticeable IR. I just feel like LG is doing something slightly different with the G1. Vs say a C1 with the same WBE panel. I know FW is different between the two, but I still feel like there’s some hardware solution/differences on the G1, to help cool the panel. There’s gotta be a reason LG is giving ppl who purchased the G1, five years of burn in protection/warranty. Yet the C1 didn’t get that same warranty.
I was worried how it’s not so bright in bestbuy although they have it set on high but I seen video about how to set it and it’s very beautiful almost look like lcd
Great video! I’m loving my 65” A80J! I’m not a gamer, so, I was glad to hear you take an approach of posing the question to the viewer of what is the most important thing they are looking for in a TV. Picture quality is it for me and as a definite novice in this area of technology, I kind of feel validated in all the research I did prior to my purchase a month ago and hearing your really well laid out comparison of the LG’s and A80J was very educating. You kept my attention from beginning to end and that’s pretty good considering I don’t have the longest attention span. Enjoyable and informative content! Thanks so much!
Absolutely Jerry! Hey if you do decide to start gaming (never too old) - the A80J is a beast that makes most games shine in terms of Picture Quality. I am so glad that I was able to provide a viewing experience that was enjoyable to you as I know it is a very long video. Appreciate you immensely and thank you for the kind words! The A80J definitely is a powerhouse and your prior research was spot on good sir!
Thanks for the video, i experience exactly what you said.. I had the C9 and C1 and ended up changing for the a80j I was blown away by the picture quality, LG is great and all but it's like u say it's not even close for PQ. And the upscalling is especially important for a 77" inch and the LG could be fine under but at this size it's not great where instead the Sony shines ! Anyhow price difference where I live is huge, there was a deal for the 77c1 at 2000euro and the a80j is like 2800 euro a difference of like 1000 dollars... Tough choices... Great video btw it's very precise and touching all the subject. Keep up the good work ;)
Thank you Sky! I appreciate it. For the record I agree, the C1 at 48 or even 55" I'd get but anything 65" and up would definitely make me look at the A80J. You made the right choice. People seriously underestimate the processing on the Sony A80J!
I have been fortunate, Geek squad just said I could keep my 65 inch CX it got a slight slight image retention and I called them and asked if they could send someone out. They said they would junk out my old TV and I could use store credit to get whatever I wanted, and that store credit would be available as long as I wanted. They gave me a 2,800 store credit towards my CX I slapped that down on the A8OJ 77 inch. The 77 inch is way to big for my condo, but it was like I was getting this thing for free. My wife let me keep it and it's like having a movie theater in my house now. Oh man this thing is insane, watched the new Venom last night. Oh my goodness, and I've had Oled since 2015 all LGs. I decided I couldn't resit the Sony at this point. I'm just not a gamer, I love VR games Serious Sam VR, Skyrim VR, if they would please bring Oled passive 3D back I'd be in complete happiness. Anyway I'm super happy I'm lucky enough to have this new set.
I was one of the few people who actually quite enjoy 3D passive technology on TV is it's a big reason why I kept the Panasonic LED shown in the video. Super happy to hear BB didn't screw you over on the TV! You did the right thing on the A80J. Grats and thanks for watching!
I think Sony A80J owners would appreciate the upscaling prowess of the XR processor for 'Day's of Our Lives' and the 'Walton's ' re-runs on cable more so than LG owner's 🤣🤣
People have grabbed the exact same screenshots from games on the A80J and C1 and it is very clear which is from each because the A80J's are clearly better. The A80j makes basically every game, even standard definition ones, sharper looking with more detailed texture and less aliasing. It's just a way better picture. Yes, playing a fast action game this won't really matter much, but it makes the point that the pros and cons for gaming are actually a lot more balanced than people claim. You can have a C1 with VRR and enoughHDMI2.1 ports and a good picture, or you can have an A80J with no VRR, have to use a switcher for a second HDMI 2.1 port, but have a great picture.
They were suppose to have a update for VRR and low latency input on the Sony but I couldn’t tell you if they ever released it since I don’t own the TV.
I went Sony A80J and it's phenomenal for the price. Love it. THX says I need a 90" tv for 9 foot viewing distance. I have 65", maybe I can get a 77" next time but it still won't be enough ...
Hey, thanks for sharing your experience. I actually just bought the 77a80j and waiting for it now. Meanwhile I could not resist googling for hours if I made the right choice or if I should have bought the c1 for it's wider list of features. Then I watched some videos from that quantum guy. He quotes that motion on the a80j is really bad compared to the c1. It kind of made me worried, because I thought that would be one of the strong points of the sony. But after watching a couple of his videos, I felt a bit sceptical. His main argument is that "purists" won't appreciate technical progress. And after you mentioned the C1 and G1 handles motion with the SOE it came to my mind, that he actually likes this effect. I work in post production and I actually always keep my eyes open for new tech. But things like motionblur, film grain and dof have always been very important and I think eliminating these are more of a step backward than forward. Still I would not call myself a purist. Anyways thanks for sharing your thoughts as most people won't have the option for a direct comparison, I really enjoyed listening to you. Also nice explanation of those features, tbh I am kind of a marketing victim often times. There a so many modes and features I probably will never make use of or don't even know what they are doing. E.g. I did not know what Allm does but at first thought "oh no, I want to have it" , but after hearing your explanation I actually could not care less. VRR is the only thing where I think it would be a big downside for gamers if Sony won't give an update. And I could not find clear information, if 4k @ 120hz will be possible without drawbacks. Still I think Sony would have done themselve a big favour if they added features and ports (useless or not) just to give customers a better feeling ;) But at the end of the day, picture quality and the wow effect is what matters to me and I hope I will be satisfied with the a80j.
Hey Chrisco Thanks so much for your comment and you are most welcome! If you take a look at the comments, I replied to someone called Sid Churgh who actually seems to have asked questions related to the comments by the person you are mentioning who I won't name because it leaves a sour taste in my mouth, lol. Please feel free to read that because I don't want to copy and paste that for you but I feel it would do a lot to quell any worries you might have especially in terms of motion and blue tint. As for marketing - no need to be embarrassed because we've all been there at some point in our lives and there is a lot of misinformation and pure convoluted information on the internet. I will agree that more gaming features never hurt but at the end of the day the whole point of a TV is for picture quality at least in my opinion. I guarantee you if picture quality is something high on your list the Sony will not disappoint this year.
I bought the 65 inch Sony A80j to replace my 55 LG CX, and honestly dude I’m glad that I went for Sony. Picture quality is top notch, and with the ALM and VRR update Sony is too competitor. LG is only faster by 3 ms input lag as far as I know, but you dont notice that difference in real life day to day use. Meanwhile, picture quality on the other hand is definitely one of the most things you will notice and will care for. If youre a competitive gamer, and you want the fastest low input lag for a tv then by all means go for LG. If movies and picture quality is what you care for the most, then Sony hands down.
I planned on skimming through this video and maybe watch 2 minutes of it but I ended up watching the entire 40+minutes. you are incredibly good at conveying information without sounding like a salesman or fanboy. You sound like you’re giving advice to a buddy. I appreciate that very much. Great work. Subscribed
Means the world. Thank you for the lovely comment. Definitely thats what I aim for is objectivity as much as possible with my subjective take clearly laid out. I kinda stopped making videos as currently not much new in the tech space and also I am trying to keep my content organic. More videos to come when theres more to genuinely make!
A little late on this comment, I know. Major props for a very real, down to earth, no B.S. review! Just bought a 55” A80J for exactly the reasons outlined here. And, oh yeah, got it for under a grand, $100 less than a 55” LG C1! After all, I wanted a TV first and foremost, not an expensive gaming monitor.
Excellent video that deserves way more views. One of the best Sony vs LG comparison videos I've seen on youtube. I was extremely torn between the LG and Sony OLED's but the more research I did, the more I started to come to the same conclusion that you did, that despite the LG's gaming features, the better picture quality of the Sony's was worth a few minor inconveniences. I was ready to grab the next 77 inch a80j that went on sale, but now I am wondering if perhaps I should wait for the new models to drop. The prospect of more models with heatsinks and the updated brighter panels, is pretty enticing. Do you have any thoughts on the upcoming models? If you hadn't purchased an OLED yet, would you wait for the new models or jump on one of the super bowl sales on last years models?
Thanks Scott! Glad you liked the video! :) As I mentioned in another comment you can buy now or wait. It all comes down to price. At 77" especially, even if Sony did add a heatsink....which they already announced they won't....its gonna be very very pricey for marginal gains currently. Tech outdates very fast, you'll have something that is the best for 1 year tops before people talk about the next best thing. Buy the year you want not based on what other new features will come, but whether you'd be happy with what you'd get NOW. Otherwise your FOMO will keep going. More nits is great but the actual subjective vs objective measure of that change is something I doubt most people can distinguish in an A/B comparison truthfully. It hasn't made leaps and bounds yet for 2022 models.
@@TechTails I was gonna get the 77” A80J for this years Black Friday, but most think it’ll be sold out by then. I just want the best 77” WOLED, and this year it’s either between the A80K and the C2/G2. I’m optimistic that Sony’s processing will once again beat out the LG’s PQ wise, but we’ll see. Will you have another comparison vid this year like this one between LG and Sony?
Great video 📹 👍 love that your just keeping it real and being strait to the point and the cat 🐈 is cool 😎. I did the same and bought both tvs 📺 and at the end of the day I took the LG back and kept the 77A80j, I am very picky when It come to picture 📸 quality and the sony delivers the wow factor and is so much cleaner image then the lg. So yes I agree 👍 💯 Sony a80j is the winner 🏆 🥇
Hey G! Thanks for your comment! I'm glad that you were able to relate to the content and of course I am always trying to keep it real. I don't have a script and everything I say literally comes from my mind in the moment and a strong approach to opinion that is grounded in reality and objectivity as much as it can be. I appreciate you taking the time to watching the review and hope you enjoy your A80J! From the sounds of it, you definitely are. 🥳
I have both, and each one is ideal for intended purposes in different rooms in my house. Sony a80j 77” in the living room with an open floor plan since it’s really bright during the day and there’s always some kind of light on at night. Perfect for watching movies or streaming services. Also hooked up to a denon s960h receiver and SVS 1000 pro, in-ceiling mounted 5.1 surround speakers. Best home theater setup I’ve ever had. Viewing angle is pretty impressive even from the kitchen, which is way off to the side. LG c1 55” connected to a Vizio m512 sound bar in a smaller bedroom converted to a game room where it’s dark, and acoustics are awesome for the soundbar setup. PS5, Xbox X and Nintendo Switch are hooked up and it’s been the best gaming setup I’ve ever experienced. Thanks for the very well thought out comparison. And for showcasing your awesome cats!
Seems like it’s been common knowledge that Sony had and has better processing and hardware. LG has better prices on average. Even though the Sony is objectively better, I’d still get a LG C series over the Sony. There is a point where you get “good enough” and the cost difference is greater than the performance difference. LG is a value choice.
Many thanks for an highly opinionated and technologically competent review of the top three OLED TVs for 2021. I read and researched my purchase for months prior to this holiday season and was still not ready to commit to the LG C1 or the Sony A80J until about a week ago. I concur with many of your observations about the picture quality and feature set offerings between LG and Sony. I concluded LG and Sony have chosen to market their OLED offerings focused on either features a segment of the market place is seeking (i.e. games versus movie watchers) but it turned out to be more nuanced, it's really about the purchaser's subjective opinion of his/her long term viewing experience. And for me the Sony A80J was it.
Thanks for watching Arthur! You definitely understood my review and for that I also thank you. Couldn't agree more with you. I hope you enjoy your purchase 😃
@@p9a9r21 I believe the nonmatte screen is a nice advantageous tradeup. Anything less and you risk your contrast getting muddy due to glare depending on your environment.
I got exactly same feeling. Sony's picture has something special in comparison with LG. I believe the XR processor makes that difference because panels are of course from LG.
Literally the in-store picture had me back there 3 days in a row as I contemplated the purchase. Finally did it on the third day… just paid and said oh well. Got the 65 inch Sony
Hey great review! I have a question for you. Seems like 2020 and 2021 Sony TVs have an issue with the TV turning on by themselves. This issue is reported on Reddit and all over AVS Forums. People have tried many things including disabling CEC, unplugging all HDMI devices and using internal apps only, covering the IR sensor on the TV, to factory resetting the TV. A bit concerning with an OLED due to burn in. When contacting Sony, they are shrugged off by support reps that say "This is not a well known/reported issue so it must be user related." I know Sony has a pretty poor track record with firmware updates (compared to LG), just a bit worried (55" A80J owner here)
The only thing that’s keeping me from buying the amazing a80j from the lg c1 is the c1’s gaming features and overall better gaming experience that most people talk about but I also watch a lot of movies and I want the amazing PQ of the a80j. My question here is, when Sony releases the VRR update on the PS5 (the Sony tvs support vrr now) will it give the lg c1’s gaming performance some serious competition?
Bro....why can’t all the reviews comparing these TVs be more like this, thanks to this video you reminded me of what I really like to buy new tv for and it’s to make my games look great. Now that new update is out it’s even better, but all I got is a Series X and PS5 so 2 ports is enough for me. I was torn between C1 and A80J/A90J, especially for price differences to the A90J, but I think thanks to the Evo Panel and heatsink it should have more longevity, which is another reason in big purchases like this, buy great as well to last. Thanks!
I just purchased the Sony A80J 55inch (first OLED) and received it last week. My previous television was the Samsung KS8000. Took me getting used to but I really like it. I'm used to those punchy bright colors from Samsung. I can't lie though, the Vivid mode on the Sony looks absolutely stunning and I know that's blasphemous to the color accuracy mafia. Lol!!! I use Vivid mode for my gaming, anime, and sports however for movie watching I like custom and Imax Enhanced. For black Friday I'm definitely getting that Samsung S95B though. That will be for my personal all-around use case but mainly to hookup my 4080 on it.
Your video was one of the most refreshing TV buying guides...like u said in your video...I have perhaps already "failed" as I am still trying to figure out which one to buy by referring to RUclips videos..and trust me have seen 100s of them in the last 2 weeks time(since we made the insane decision to go for a new tv!!!!) but not being a tech savvy I still find your video to be so easy to go through and more importantly understand😊 I was already leaning towards Sony but unfortunately the A80j is out of stock where we live😕 now we are just waiting...but kudos to you..great job!!
Hey Paromita! Thank you for your lovely comment. I am glad it was able to help you. Yes indeed, the A80J started selling out after the video I made here but mostly because it received all those gaming features as well. Its a killer TV to this day even compared to the newer Sony 2022 line which some say has become a downgrade to an extent. I hope you manage to find one! 😊
@@TechTails yes...and now we are on the verge of dropping the whole idea of getting a new TV cause for me going for the LG c2 or G1/G2 is like a compromise on the TV viewing experience. For us its mostly movies and series that happens on the TV as we arn't into gaming yet. So I am not sure how long we will have to wait for the new launches of Sony and availability here in India
Oh really? I thought it did! 😵 My mistake. Also glad to see you in my comments. I actively have read your comments on other youtube videos and you clearly know your stuff. Im honored.
@@TechTails 😅 I think we all wish it did tho! Don’t sweat it man. I get things wrong all the time. I just thought I’d point it out, since I didn’t see anyone else commenting this. I’m sure everyone will be saying something tho. Btw! I just got to the end portion of the video. And man…I couldn’t agree with you more! Seriously. Thank you for giving a balance take on this topic. I’ve been struggling with my CX for over a year. Feeling kinda duped to be honest. It’s just not up to my standards, and I even miss my “budget” TCL r625. Also, this is my first time coming across your channel. You just earned a sub btw! I just thoroughly enjoyed the shit out of this! I also enjoyed that little shade thrown at QTV 😂
@@TechTails You also clearly know how to make quality content! Very impressed! I wish I could make content that looks like this lol. My iPhone just isn’t up to the task. Especially when trying to record a TV, with such high dynamic range, on a camera, with rather poor dynamic range.
@@ye-rochawkins5432 I appreciate that a lot. Means a lot to me, lol I really do fiddle with the camera a lot to try and get decent dynamic range and no increased noise floors. Appreciate all your comments and genuinely made my day. Thanks again!
It says the Sony has 2 2.1 hdmi inputs but then says all 4 are 2.3 compatible. Does that help at all? Not even sure what that means. They also said they would have a VRR and low latency update. Anyone know if they ever actually released that update?
Made a somewhat silly decision to buy a G1 over C1 65inch. The C1 saddly had vesa mount too low on the back to mount nicely above my fireplace. Would have moved it up at least 1 ft 0.0. Which is already a tad annoying. Figure it would have cost about $300-$400 dollars to try to replace my current full motion mount making the price gap between the two only about $200-$300 bucks. I am willing to bet I can get a better warranty response on the G1 if I get burnin within 5 years. I have heard of people getting new panels from LG on lower model TVs in the past. So that part is a gamble. But I agree I mostly stuck with LG for console gaming.
If you are gonna have fear of missing out, then you will never purchase. Personally you can wait but in 2023, new models will make the 2022 model seem weaker too. That's the name of the game. Or you may end up waiting even longer due to the chip shortage or dare I say end up with a worse model. Look at what happened to the 2022 Teslas. Buy it if you need it now, if you dont then wait forever lol. End of the day, if your purchase can be super invalidated just like that barring any major changes, it wasn't a very good purchase to begin with
In game mode for the Sony at 120 Hz and the Lg. Both are fast enough to be used for competitive gaming on league at least up to the master level which is what I'm at ATM. If you are not there, it is likely your mechanics and not the TV. The Hz is also not likely to make you a better gamer especially if you are very accustomed to maps even on LCDs. The only thing it does is looks smoother. I play on the PC, oled is great in light controlled rooms and bad in rooms with lots of windows. So I had my share of multiple TVs. I think the other big issue standardization. It's just like EVs that need standardization.
As far as I'm aware - it has a demo mode you can add pictures to a USB stick and cycle any pictures and the screensaver seems to be a Bravia logo only with a black screen. I really wouldn't use it for ambient art personally. Hope that helps!
@@TechTails thanks very much! I did some research ( very little info available on it) and I think the google tv OS for the tv also has an app or feature "Living Decor" that can be used to cycle through photos, screen savers.
Great video! I almost didn't watch because there was no visual of the screens, but I was howling when you called out that DEADFOOL character. I almost made the wrong choice. I'm not a gamer, and have dim lighting. So I will treat myself to the A80J in a 65 inch for Christmas. THANKS AGAIN. And of course I subscribed.
Hey David! Awesome! Im glad to have you as a subscriber and am moreover happy you didnt rely on youtube visuals to justify the purchase. Deadfool 🤣 I like that name more! I think your Christmas will be excellent with the A80J! :)
Hello Thank you for detailed review. I have couple of questions. I was going to buy Samsung QN90a however, in my country, it comes with ADS(IPS) panel. I just bought LG C1 and thinking about refund and go for Sony A80J after watching several reviews because I mostly will be watching movies, serials. My questions are: 1) Does sony dims the entire screen if a channel logo is bright, just like you mention for game HUDs? 2) Everyone says Sony has better shadow detail and HDR brightness due to XR processor, does it really make noticable difference? 3) How badly it affects the picture quality of Sony as it makes brighter but less quality shadow detail? They say LG has dimmer but better quality shadow detail. Will it be so disturbing on Sony? 3) Does LG look better than Sony on the motion if it is 24p movie which I heard that LG perform better? 4) I dont have professional calibrated in my city. Is it a reason to eliminate LG? Can I calibrate it with the settings and manuals on internet by myself? 5) I mostly watch Netflix etc. Is Sony better for movies for sure? Any disadvantage compared to LG for movies ?
yea some people like LG some people like SONY im personally a sony fan after owning both, i just like the way SONY does motion an SONYS processing with their reality creation is juss better for movies it gives things this cinematic crisp feeling when u combine the 2 it gives a movie experience that LG can not do thats why theyre trying to dominate the gaming market instead because they cant match SONYS movie watching experience
Thankyou for this video. Helped me alot. Not really a gamer . Somehow I got too old...lol. I have had a Panasonic Plasma for 10 years or so. Still has a great picture. However I just ordered the Sony A80j 77. Do ya think I will be happy with the picture quality? Gonna be hard to beat this old 65 in Panasonic Plasma
@jeffery anderson - how are you getting on with your a80j? I was in similar situation to you as I had a Samsung F8500 plasma and really loved this TV, but over 22,000 hours on the panel and some damage when the screen was returned after a PSU repair meant I finally had to bite the bullet and get a new TV. I settled on the a80j as I am not a huge gamer and the XR processing and incredible picture quality on the a80j sold me. Having HDR and seeing it on a large display for the first time is pretty breathtaking!
I like how u lay it out clean and straight out on the table because I was contemplating on lg c1 and the x95j i been by bestbuy for a month and yutube for weeks but now I’ll go for thr a80j 65
Hey man I own the Sony A80J along with my old LGUBKC90 4k player. Looking to upgrade to a different 4k player as I don’t think the Sony a80j supports Dolby vision for this player since the quality is not good on my 4k movies- meaning my streaming content looks better! So what 4k player would you recommend
Initially Sonys VRR was disastrous and ugly on non A80J and A90J TVs. Can confirm with VRR, the Sony A80J is a clear cut winner. I tested VRR yesterday on my PC hookup and RTX 3080Ti. It's unbelievable. Sony processing and VRR made your choice a no brainer. The biggest reason people even were on the fence was because LG C1/G1 had VRR and Sony promised it...but they never made good on their promises. People didn't trust them to release it. Now that it has, it's a pretty embarrassing time to be a diehard LG C1 G1 fanboy.
@@TechTails I appreciate the info. Awesome man, this was a tough decision and Mr Deadpool sent me for a loop lol. Now that Sony made good on their promise it’s looking like a no brainer. Just wanted to confirm that they didn’t just half ass on their promise to make due before the 2022 release.Thanks man!
@@JoseGarcia-wj7cp ah yes...deadpool guy....sony motion trashy...because its not a soap opera...OK. VRR is never a replacement for true GSYNC monitors due to one being hardware and another being software implementation, but right now the A80J definitely got VRR right. All forms of VRR may have slight artifacting...LG C1 and G1 included, but the A80J is the one to go for. And I'm no stakeholder in Sony. I've owned all brands. I always aim for objective truth with subjective interpretation kept seperately in reviews or clarified strongly as that. The A80J is it. In fact the A90J is exceptional too...like a A80J on roids. The ABL on Sony is defined as aggressive....but I have yet to be affected by it too much. Using a PC it doesn't dim at all...or rarely. Either way, its the clear choice for 21 and especially 22.
@@TechTails thanks again! I went ahead and got the A80J, beautiful tv and a huge upgrade over what i had. I’m currently trying to figure out this WiFi issue. I’m connected but when I run a speed test I’m not getting over 15mb/s DL speed. Every other device I have is seeing well over 100 MB/s. Any idea what the issue could be? I’m seeing Reddit threads where others are having this issue but haven’t stumbled upon a fix.
@@JoseGarcia-wj7cp no problem my friends! I use ethetnet to be honest, but my wi-fi speeds have been OK for the most part. Its tricky. I dont think anything is wrong with your TV, perhaps the distance to the router?
I got the 65inch a80j and love it. My viewing distance only calls for a 60inch TV and I still was so close to grabbing the 77inch cuz I know it will still be glorious vs the 65inch. I just didn't want to cough up an extra 1200 difference haha. I was so close to getting the 77inch CX cuz it was on sale for 2500, glad i stuck with the Sony. Great video man. Easily watched it all.
@@afistfulofpimples1745 what are you talking about? I think you don't know his personal preferences and the Sony is clearly better than the LG CX, so in that case he did the right thing.
@@afistfulofpimples1745 oh I see now. Well it depends I think sometimes you also get the Evo Panel at the 65 inch, but at 77 its 100% the new Evo Panel yea.
Hey Bruce You need the service remote and hit IN-OUT on it. Then you can enter the code (found online very easily) and enter it. ABSL can be disabled but not ABL itself. I clarified that in the video :)
We’ll u are right dont rely on some youtubers, just watch them as a guide ,Ive been using SONY tv fast 10 years 950G the last so i know sony are very good in picture quality, never try any oled before till last year CX, which is really good in gaming 2.1 port 4x good picture quality what more sony oled can do i bet much better picture quality, i mean if you know how good the brand is in there top of the line tv u know they really good even samsung Q90series.
Great review! Keep it up! In a another review, I heard that the motion on the a80j is terrible vs c1 for content below 30fps and comparable to c1 for high fps content. What are your thoughts? Also is there a blue tint to a80j that cannot be calibrated out and impacts PQ? Lastly, in what key areas is the a90j better than the a80j as a buy? Tks!
First of all, thanks for watching! I can say with confidence that's simply not the case. It's wonderful at all fps ranges. I believe however there are those that prefer the Soap Opera Effect motion, hence it looks "terrible" to them. For blue tint - it most definitely can be calibrated out. You definitely heard wrong from the person claiming the blue tint is not able to be calibrated out - that "tint" is simply Sony's modified Judd - can be calibrated. Pre-calibration yes it may seem bluer to people in terms of the white full-field. Definitely check out NinjicianAV - he is an actual respectable calibrator and awesome all-around guy. Not just someone claiming they were a professional calibrator that made videos under the guise of a Deadpool mask (yikes). A90J has slightly more impactful audio than the A80J and is also able to reach brighter peak luminance for highlights.
Much appreciated! Does burn-in become a very real concern on these OLEDs if, amongst other uses, one also uses these TVs to cycle through photos/art gallery?
@@sidchugh8371 I wish I could answer that. I don't believe there has ever actually been objective tests done to measure panel variances and the effects of burn in from purpoted usage of still image/gallery viewing at least to a massive extent. It's just generally accepted to not put anything static for long periods of time and constantly on OLEDs or use it like a moving picture frame permanently. LG created the gallery G1 for this very reason you mention BUT I'm not quite sure what makes the LG confidently claim they will support it for gallery usage other than it being pretty flat and coming with their 5 year warranty...instead of actual advancement of technology to allow it to be used as a gallery display. I would say you could easily view photos on OLED...not a problem...just perhaps avoid gallery usage. From LG directly : Most cases of burn-in in televisions is a result of static images or on-screen elements displaying on the screen uninterrupted for many hours or days at a time - with brightness typically at peak levels. Again...they do mention technology such as pixel refresh etc...but Sony has that as well. So they market it for that...with no real proven new tech to prevent burn in, lol
If someone is having motion issues on the 2021 Sony OLEDs, it is most likely user error. Well I can guarantee you it is. Like that dude QTV who claims the Sony motion is so terrible this year. Which is just simply not true at all. People really need to start looking into this guys claims. Not to mention, the pure fact he cranks motion interpolation to max on every TV he ever has in. HUGE RED FLAG, coming from a supposed “TV reviewer” and “the number one brand in honesty” 🤣 The Sony’s are just a little odd, and the “cinemotion” needs to be set correctly, to get a proper frame cadence, without any frame drops, stutters, etc. Tbh, Sony has the best motion out there imo. Especially for those who want cinematic motion, and not the hyper real SOE look. Sony also has a superior BFI implementation. Also, blue tint not being able to be calibrated out is a lie. The blue tint being spoken of, is probably just the modified Judd offset white point. You should really question that calibrators skills, if they say that can’t be calibrated out.
@@ye-rochawkins5432 Why do you say motion process is user error ? 1 - 24hz over 24p, bluray / htpc cinemotion needs to be off because no pulldown required and motionflow user choice ? 2 - Apps @60hz, chromecast/TVapps, needs cinemotion to high to reach 5:5 pulldown (24x5 due to 120hz panel) and motionflow user choice ? What other things can people mess up ? Then, does motionflow works better over 60hz vs 24h ? I can send htpc 60/120hz if 24hz mode is not enough to deal with motionflow tbh Ive also seen that BFI isnt a viable option as it lower panel overall picture Im worried to get "unlogical stutter" on every slow pans or slight moving people/object background, rather prefer a tiny blur Went to a store, sure, 60fps demo youtube content ofc, couldnt be able to test other thing yet
Quality on this is exceptional and you make great points about not showing the TVs side by side it really wouldn't be telling much how are u only at 200 subs? also great display of the a80j at start
Great info! With regards to the 2 hdmi 2.1 ports, couldn’t this be also resolved by connecting the hdmi 2.1 eARC port to an AV receiver with hdmi 2.1 out (eg. denon s760h) and connecting game consoles/pc to the receiver through hdmi 2.1 ports on the receiver?
No not really because if you want to use VRR and you make the hdmi signal to support it now all your sources will fall under that format (game mode) you won’t be able to use cinema standard or other picture modes. In my case I had to use hdmi 4 and activate the VRR signal for ps5 but leave the signal for the hdmi 3 earc to enhanced or Dolby enhanced if you have the Apple TV connected to receiver because that’s the only way to get Dolby vision from Apple TV. I hope this answers your question but if you need me to explain differently I can try to help you out understand
So Sony A80J doesn’t have bad soap opera affect? I just bought the G1 and I have to completely turn off motion smoothing to have that non-soap opera cinema look. I am 99% sure I am going to return it for the A80J since I want a TV mostly for movies/streaming/sports.
Your right on the hgig.. dead on. A few games look better and it is usually in the clouds lol. Many games don't even look like they are in HDR with hgig. The TV opinion, I can't agree. It's the same panel, so any idea they aren't close is hyperbolic. The Sony has stutter no matter what you do. The judder (stutter) can be dialed in on the c1. It definitely depends how you want your motion represented. OLED stutter is bad though due to the fast response and it's sample and hold refresh. That's why I like having it mostly fixed. I use 8 and 8 for motion and dejudder on the c1. As far as accurate color, I tune by eye, but take my time, so out of the box wasn't a issue. The reduce blue light filter on the c1 is a great start to getting it's picture much closer to "right" out of the box.
Hey Paul thanks for watching and the comment! So this whole notion of "same panel, same TV" is the most hyperbolic actually, which is ironic. As I mentioned to two others, same panel with dramatically different processing - which comments like these gravely misjudge and simplify dare I say to justify their C1 G1 purchases. If the C1 and G1 were same panel and the same image to the Sony, where is it on the HDTVTest shootout? Nowhere to be found. Not that it's a be all end all, but clearly the Sony has something about it or a lot of people are having mass hysteria which I doubt. But at the end of the day, its all opinion. Go with what you prefer, bottom line. As for "stutter" I think you might have a personal preference for the soap opera effect, but I and many others don't. I found no issues on the motion with the Sony, but the dialability can be argued as sony has two functions to motion.
@@TechTails stutter isn't about individual motion on screen. It's about panning shots. The entire screen will shake as it moves. Yes I truly don't care what " influencers" think. At least not to the level I don't trust my owner eyes. OLED's aren't even "great" for gaming because of judder (stutter) and no one talks about that, none of the influencers 🤷♂️ "King of tv". It's all marketing and hype. They are the exact same panels, the Sony is more calibrated out of the box and idiot proof. Less settings and a lot of things can't even be turned off with the XR this year. 890J gives you a heat sink which is awesome but the ABL is really aggressive and more noticeable. Plus they priced it up the nose this year They are similar TV's, they aren't leagues apart. I would say "same panel, very similar to TVs.". You're right same TV is hyperbolic. Depends what you prefer on how they do processing. That's literally the difference. They are cousins. Both are attractive, but it's blondes to brunettes as I'm concerned 🤷♂️. Good thing about TV is they can be returned if you get them and don't like one. 😁. Just have to do it fast
Yeah the g1 Def doesn't have a heatsink lol its why side by side the g1 and c1 in actual content is almost identical to the average consumer they can't even see it and I'm talking about none sponsored people here lol to many people sponsored by lg this year it's insane never seen anything like it lol hey man I appreciate your views and I agree sony is just in another league now now when I talk about lg I'm not talking about banding and stuff snd uniformity which is panel by panel it's panel variance I wouldn't say the lg g1 is actually cleanser as you may get another c1 that's cleaner then your g1 and the Evo panels are known for having huge panel variance some get good ones some don't value electronics said they have had alot more lg g1 Evo panel issues then the a90j with the latest panel so yeah just variance tbh but awesome video for sure lol also abl is actually to protect the tv from getting thermal damage not just burn in lol its why your full screen whites don't get as bright that isn't for burn in now logo luminance is for burn in now sony doesn't have a setting to change the logo luminance but they still do it lol but again my a90j I almost never ever notice it only with tons of hugs and even then it comes right back when you start moving around at least on the a90j it does
Hey man! Glad to see you here! Could not agree with you more. And yeah I don't know how I thought the G1 had a heatsink. Major flup on my part, lol. Yeah thermal damage as well, I just figured to simplify it for people that may not know the big issue of burn-in. As for ABL on A80J - yeah, I mean it does usually come back if I move around and slowly get brighter the same way it dims. Changing inputs is the INSTANT method. Thanks again for your comment and I envy you with your A90J. If they made the A90J in 77" I would have bought it - no question.
@@TechTails I love you dude finally an honest straight up person sometimes brutal honesty needs to be done. There is way to much not being driven home about the difference. I don't like all these channels sponsored by gl they are even doing 3k dub channels sending 3 c1 to keep and shit. I have screen shots of the dude admitting it. They got caught trying to manipulate reviews this year when 2 channels spoke out about it. Do yeah hard to see these people lieing about so much. It's refreshing to see someone like me doing videos. It's needed people take me wrong sometimes but it's not meant to be personal lol. I'm happy you saw it I do belive some people don't have our eyes. They can't see certain shades we see. They can't see the details we see. But still it's noticeable enough that most should see it and if they don't then something is wrong lol.
@@reviewforthetube6485 I love you too man! Haha 🤣 To be honest, in the past when I used to do reviews for publishing and games journalism [my background], I worked with LG 4 times, and the 3rd and 4th time they did offer me "keeper" units of their TVs in exhange for...well...a glorified advertisement in the ruse of what would be a "review." One condition was also I had to send them the article beforehand...of course I didn't like it one bit. Then they said OK you dont have to send it to us beforehand...but obvipusly exchange of a free TV is deeply concerning and I could never do that because I feel there's a level of quiet submission that goes with that. On one hand you get early access to product...and more views or readers...but on the other hand..you sell your soul for some metal. I will always choose my soul over technology that ages anyways and to be honest with anyone who gives me their valuable time in watching anything I do. And yes, I definitely see what you see in terms of the picture quality. Enjoy your A90J my friend! Bask in its glory, haha! 😁
@@reviewforthetube6485. So you're saying Whisper Status is a paid sponsor from LG?? Because he's not. I literally seen him do a CX vs Sony A80J, he definitely said they're literally so close. I even seem him replying too your comments, & he put you in place. Because you was going on about colours or something. He reviews alot of TVs, he's definitely not paid off. Its a shame. You Sony lovers are literally saying, Sonys oleds are way ahead of everything. Which is basically wrong! 🤫
@@JamesLee-ph9go no I didn't say anything about whisper wtf lol. whisper didn't put me in my place. Whisper and I are actually fiends, you have no idea what you are talking about right now and did I say whisper? Don't start shit all because we are stating our opinions and don't try bringing people into this that were never involved in my statement. Whisper is not sponsored but there are many many channels that are man you can choose not believe it all you want to. The proof is out there not hard to find at all. Whisper stated to me was he had live color on after he showed the settings when I brought up live color that's it. Umm that's not putting someone in there place and his name is Brian and again we are friends I love how you just brought in whisper out of every youtuber out there it makes no sense why he was the one you brought into the situation. What's funnier is he's one of the youtubers I'm closer to lol. Hell he used to shout me out in his videos in 2019 and 2020 so please don't ever bring up whisper up in that way to me again. As if I said something about him when clearly I didn't. Whisper also said the soby tvs do have an advantage in loves and tv shows due to the processor so don't forget to mention that part either.
Great review. Thank you. I think this just sold me on the A80J. I was so torn like every one else on the C1 vs A80J. I am coming from a 8 year old SDR 60hz LED. This will be my first OLED. Your final comment how the C1 looks like an LED with better contrast was the final straw in my decision. I have waited this long so I want a real upgrade. Also I HATE soap opera effect like you do. I want 24p films to look like movies. Not like sports games. Plus I don't want to calibrate my shit. I wonder how many average people actually calibrate their TVs. I want it right out of the box. So thanks again for all your insight.
Very detailed review, especially for your channel size. I'd recommend going for a clean intro track as not to alienate people who care about that kinda thing as your chan grows. I have the A8H and love it. Fully agreed PQ doesn't come close between the two brands, even with last years sony
Thanks Steezy! I appreciate the feedback. It's a fair point. Regardless, my content isn't focused on anyone who probably can't handle cuss words and terms that the black community frequently uses. I do listen to music like this, and I do tend to even cuss in some* of my videos, I just didn't in this one. To replace the track with a clean version wouldnt be authentic to me, even if I usually don't use intro tracks like this a lot. As I said in the video, I'm really not doing this for subscribers nor do I do videos often. I have a primary job that pays me well and I am not looking to make RUclips my career. Should I alienate some people, that's alright by me. I won't appeal to everyone. That's OK. I appreciate regardless if the viewer can at least have the big picture mentality to look past the song choice they disagree with and perhaps engage with the other 44 minutes of valuable content, haha. At least to glean some useful info! Thanks for watching and I appreciate you! Great nickname :)
@@TechTails fair enough brother, you do you! It doesn't bother me but just thought I'd throw it out there because with the amount of work and content there I think your chan could be big if you keep putting out vids like that :)
Great video with loads of information. Could you talk a little more about the semi Matt screen on the a80j below 70 inch size. Does it effect the brightness or Colours on the tv compared to a glossy screen like on the a90j and c1 and G1? It’s the only real thing putting me off. I’m also looking at the Philips 806 as it is winning awards over here in Europe. Thanks
Hi Gump! Wonderful question! So, I DID accidentally leave out from the video that I did also purchase the Sony A80J 65" prior to the A80J 77" purchase which was smaller for my room. I can easily upload my receipt from Best Buy if anyone doubts this. I did end up getting an EVO WBE panel on that thankfully. Now a correction: it's not matte, its semigloss technically. Rmember, it is still an OLED, so its not like LCD matte screens or their complaints on the net. If you have light in that room, then yes the semigloss screen can affect the PERCEIVABLE colors and brightness. What I mean is for example - some will say that the screen actually helps cut down reflections or mute reflections for their environment which actually makes things look better in their situation than a glossy one if they have certain reflections at certain angles hitting the TV. And if that is the case then naturally colors would look better as well because then you're not getting reflection deviations on the panel. Some peceivable contrast in that situation might be better. But admittedly if all else is equal and there aren't that many Reflections or light sources, then the glossy panel should be able to produce a more superior image in a controlled setting but not by a lot. We are hairpicking here. Semigloss screen does affect brightness when it comes to objective measurement as the transmission of light across these layers is different, but in real world it can be effectively a toss up due to reduced reflections. In a dark room, unlikely perceptible. Personally and this is just me, I would much rather have the semigloss screen and reduced glare than a glossy screen that is lacking the Sony processing with any other 2021 display. I hope I helped. Thanks for watching!
Damn this was very nice. Thx for that. I dont know wich TV i should buy the c1 or a80j but after that I will buy the a80j. So you notice Any Motion Problems on the Sony? Some people Talk about that.
I would be glad to have you over or get lunch with you anytime! Just say when haha :) Always love watching your content and streams. Hug your cat for me and thank you for watching my video. I was so stoked to see a comment from you in here, and as always will send people your way! I'm honored and appreciate your time
@@TechTails Anytime. I'm near SDSU. You're welcome to come by and listen to the setup. I actually would be curious to compare our i1Pro spectros for accuracy tests.
I calibrated my A8h with some settings online…it’s looks really good now with sdr and hdr and dv.. it’s accurate.. but yea it’s a touch washed looking. I realize now that Samsung and lg have the look I’m going for . But the a90j is the dream. But they don’t have a 77 inch. I guess I gotta wait for cheaper heats ink oled from Sony
Hate that guy because he talks about issues not a single person talks about. While literally EVERYONE praises motion and processing on Sony TVs he complains. Just look at dramatic clickbait titles and thumbnails on his videos. Not sure what his beef is with Sony. Definitely not a reliable source for TV reviews.
So today my 65 c1 came in and what can i say i like it but im not impressed at all maybe because some people hype oled way 2 much So i already had the 75 q90t which is a beast tv for gaming movies etc especially after the last 2 updates the tv had I had it paired with my xbox series x thats in my living room. I needed anotha tv so i can game in peace becouse usualy when i wanna game my gf wants to watch tv lol regardless i had a man cave wth no tv so i jumped on the c1 since best buy already has black friday deals 1. the q90t already has really good picture quality color and contrast with very dark Inky blacks seems oled like to me honestly so when i played a few movies on the c1 i wasnt wowed only thing i can say is maybe the c1 is a little more clear but that can be cuz its also smaller 2.Coming from a bright qled i can honestly say the lg oled is not dim at all and just to note my man cave is dim And so is my living room i dont like gaming or watching tv in the complete dark and i had no brightness issue at all with oled 3.Gaming idk they seem both hella good to me honestly and bith show good pq on game mode and play very smooth and responsive Will heres my quick review for my firt time oled experience and what can i say u cant go wrong with a flag ship samsung qled or a lg oled there both good Any1 have questions feel free to ask
Yes! Really 🤣. Never said not having those was awesome, but then again neither is lackluster picture quality at this price range (the LGs). But hey if the 3 HDMI 2.1s is a dealbreaker by all means, get the C1 or G1 - one of my monitors is a C1 48" but I wouldn't dream of using the current LG Oleds of 2021 as my primary viewing platform. As I said in the video, when the product is good you try to work around its limitations. But a simple 10$ switcher will give you the 3 HDMI 2.1 ports you want on the A80J/A90J.
When I went to buy trust me 65a80j looked the dullest compared to Samsung q80 or any other tv on display but I still chose Sony just because I had used a 6 year old Sony and knew what it meant to have one. Brought home and rewatch all old RUclips videos and damn they did look much sharper and fluid. Was worth the 1k extra cash.
Damn nobody in the AV community likes quantum tv lol 😂 listening to him I bought a c1 lots of black crushing and soap opera effect long story short swapping out Sony A80j on the way
That m8 is Juice WRLD. He is the 49th most top artist in the world according to the charts. 😁 give his songs a listen and broaden your mind past some cultural vernacular. Enjoy your TV and thanks for watching!
@@TechTails ohhh ,WOWWO , the 49TH most top artist in the world according to the charts 🙄😳 STILL NAH, PASS 😍😀👍🙏 Cant wait until Monday , lots of 4k blurays waiting to enjoy on it 😀🤜🤛
If i leave the room ABL will kick in....sure. but thats a panel saving feature i dont mind at all. Other than that I NEVER have ABL on games. Probably like you said Madden or Fortnite will be affected
@@TechTails yep. I play rainbow six siege and no noticeable ABL. I’m not sure why madden triggers this and rainbow doesn’t. Rainbow has an insane amount of static Images lol
I don’t think G1 have heatsink i know is only evo panel, A90j the only oled got heatsink. sony always superb on picture quality Because of there processor but LG is close and cheaper being practical i just go for C1.
The LG C1 was mainly made for gaming and it is doing an amazing job ,for me all the rest is a bonus. Of course SONY makes a better overall TVs but the C1 wasn't made to compete with that.
Isn't the A80J doing a lot better in gaming Upscaling and tonemapping in HDR? It also looks far superior in SDR. Not to mention the out of the box calibration being 75% better than the C1? I'm wondering why the LG is better then? Strange.
As i said, the LG C1 is not made to compete with SONY. It is more affordable for many people and the gap between them is not as big like you described.
@@cod4787 Let's be real and stop the BS. The Sony is vastly superior in everything against the C1. It shouldn't even be compared. C1 also dims even with the ABSL turned off in the service menu. And when it does, it doesn't refresh back to normal, it stays dim. The Sony comes back to normal brightness after a minute or so. It does the dimming to avoid burn in. Disabling this on LG will just be more propense of burn in but LG users seem to don't care about it and not even being real with their TV's = lower PQ, less detail, blurry PC mode against the amazingly sharp Sony PC mode, less brightness against Sony amazing HDR tonemapping and SDR levels, worse calibration colors, even worse stand and worse sound. The Sony is pricey but it's worth it. The LG is cheaper and there's a reason for that, all the just mentioned issues against the Sony. Grow up fanboys.
Cool cats 😻. Ridiculous take on TV's 👎 Either you're trolling, or you have never seen both TV's in person (I don't mean at the store obviously) The amazing PQ of these OLEDs (especially in 4K HDR) is barely distinguishable by professional calibrators, however for you they're "on a different level"? Exaggerate much?! Maybe make some cat videos. They are adorable, especially "one eyed Willy". 💗
Hey thanks for the comment. Not sure how my take can be ridiculous...its my take and you are free to agree or disagree in this case. If you even took the time to watch the full video I actually bought them and tested them all in my home enviornment (obviously) hence me showing the receipt for those, lol. And yes OLEDs have great picture quality but the LG OLEDs are laughable PQ this year. The Sony compared to the LG IS on a different level as cheesy as it sounds. The LGs look like my 2014 LED with better contrast...which in the video I admitted was a 5000$ LED for its time. In terms of clarity and the rest, I just don't see it! I'm sorry if you purchased a LG. Is what it is. Theres a reason it won nothing other than gaming for the HDTVTest showdown. Also yes I love my cats and fully agree they are the best reason and perhaps only reason to watch my videos 🤣
He’s not trolling. I actually agree with almost everything he said. The Sony’s are superior TV’s, with superior PQ, and superior processing. They are not as close as people/reviewers say. They just aren’t. And people are definitely doing a little covering for LG. Coming from a LG OLED owner!
@@ye-rochawkins5432 I think it depends on the content your throwing at the panel myself.Good quality UHD or streaming 4k high bitrate on Netflix etc looks fantastic on LG'S......also there's just as many Sony A80J owners on threads and forums disappointed in the PQ....A90J well that's a different story
@@mrwalker6026 my lg 65" c1 looks good with uhd to be fair but i definitely do wish i could have afforded the a80j or 90j and can admit that the c1 doesnt really make me go woah to my LCD Samsung but its a nice image still for me anyways. most people who are complaining about a80j i seen just seem to have panel issues, not anyone who is like oh i have no issues but this is not great. a90j and 80 j are within 10% quality wise. id definitely take a 80j over the c1 just say when as long as i dont have to pay moreeee ugh
@@heathscarl4356 it all depends on the content, your expectations and how long since you've upgraded to a newer panel....I have a C9 and it looks identical to my Cx..and again C1 looks more of the same with incremental upgrades..... The A90J is probably the most impressive but geez are you paying for it and it's only processing which I have little interest in and I don't watch cable.... Qd Oled's will be showcased in January at CeS,and Samsung, Sony,Panasonic and even TCL on board for the new technology offering 12 bit... BTW I can't stand Android TV or Google TV personally, LG and Samsung OS is much better and their app functionality... It comes down to little things more than upscaling and processing for me ,even something like the LG magic remote
LOL Hahahahaha Oh ok so wait, you mean the 8,000.00 tv is nicer than the 2800.00 tv? You dont say? Thats wierd. so to make sure we know that the Lg oled is trash compared to the Sony, ok got it. A more delusional description from a fan boy you will never find anywhere on the interwebs than this dude lol BUT it is his opinion so..whatever. I get it you really love the Sony and hey why not it is a great tv, if it werent for the exorbitant cost and lack of gaming features Id have one, but to say the Lg is trash next to is ridiculous, next to the Sony the Lg oled is the nicest image quality out, th0en others qned, qled etc.. The Sony A80j is so close to the C1/G1 when put on mutual settings that 90% of people could never tell them apart. Technically it is a little nicer, BUT lacks a lot of things the C1 offers, and I own a Series X and use it everyday so tome these are important. So between the two as close as they are, the LG gets my vote for this reason. If I could afford an A90j for movies and a C1 for games, that would be a perfect world situation. The Sony is also the most expensive tv in its class and it isnt a little more, it is 3 thousand dollars more. Sony A90j 83" 7999.99 Lg C1 83" 4999.99 lol that is 3,000.00 more for yes a nicer looking tv sure, BUT 3,000.00 nicer? GTFO Its not so much nicer that any sane person wuold spend 3000.00 extra to have one IMO.
Ladies and gentlemen, here we have a buyer sipping on copium. Observe, witness, take pictures. 🤣 I didn't have to read this rant to know you bought a LG and probably said something along the lines of "its so close" [its not and anyone can tell] + the Sony is expensive! Listen, good for you. Go enjoy your LG but don't be delusional. The A90J is a 8k TV, which wasn't even the focus of this video (way to pay attention). You clearly didn't even watch the video before unraveling all this trivial garbage in my comments section because a lot of your bull was addressed in a very easy to understand way. Maybe not easy enough for you though. P.S. dont bother responding, you're muted.
For the same reason morons like you exist, I just did. If you unclogged the stupidity from your ears, I filmed my face because I'm actually trying to have an informational discussion about these things. Of course if you had the actual intellect to grasp that and not the IQ of a mosquito being drawn to the light of the TVs and wanting to see an entire video of just the TVs on a subjective camera, you missed the point and are most definitely not someone who gets it.
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Correction to the video: I knew within 1 hour of upping this the G1 does not have a heatsink, sorry! My video doesn't use a script, so this can happen. Trust me, you aren't the first one to bring this up. Using this in my video as a way to justify your purchase is a sad reach. Either way, I hope this helps anyone caught on the fence. Remember everyone: I only take the side of one thing - the PRODUCT in anything I review. Brands don't matter. It could be by "Big Bird" brand lol....
I really wanna see someone tear apart a G1. Just to see if there is any type of panel cooling tech implemented. Bc it’s kinda amazing how the G1 suffers from virtually no temporary IR. I mean, obviously you can make it have some, just like you can make the A90J have some. But the G1 recovers very quickly, and rarely shows any signs of having temporary IR. Where a set like the A80J, has very noticeable IR.
I just feel like LG is doing something slightly different with the G1. Vs say a C1 with the same WBE panel. I know FW is different between the two, but I still feel like there’s some hardware solution/differences on the G1, to help cool the panel. There’s gotta be a reason LG is giving ppl who purchased the G1, five years of burn in protection/warranty. Yet the C1 didn’t get that same warranty.
I was worried how it’s not so bright in bestbuy although they have it set on high but I seen video about how to set it and it’s very beautiful almost look like lcd
Great video! I’m loving my 65” A80J! I’m not a gamer, so, I was glad to hear you take an approach of posing the question to the viewer of what is the most important thing they are looking for in a TV. Picture quality is it for me and as a definite novice in this area of technology, I kind of feel validated in all the research I did prior to my purchase a month ago and hearing your really well laid out comparison of the LG’s and A80J was very educating. You kept my attention from beginning to end and that’s pretty good considering I don’t have the longest attention span. Enjoyable and informative content! Thanks so much!
Absolutely Jerry! Hey if you do decide to start gaming (never too old) - the A80J is a beast that makes most games shine in terms of Picture Quality. I am so glad that I was able to provide a viewing experience that was enjoyable to you as I know it is a very long video. Appreciate you immensely and thank you for the kind words! The A80J definitely is a powerhouse and your prior research was spot on good sir!
I'm stuck between the matte 65 a80j and gloss 65 in g1, the lg is $3350 vs 3650, all streaming etc.
Thanks for the video, i experience exactly what you said.. I had the C9 and C1 and ended up changing for the a80j I was blown away by the picture quality, LG is great and all but it's like u say it's not even close for PQ. And the upscalling is especially important for a 77" inch and the LG could be fine under but at this size it's not great where instead the Sony shines ! Anyhow price difference where I live is huge, there was a deal for the 77c1 at 2000euro and the a80j is like 2800 euro a difference of like 1000 dollars... Tough choices...
Great video btw it's very precise and touching all the subject. Keep up the good work ;)
Thank you Sky! I appreciate it. For the record I agree, the C1 at 48 or even 55" I'd get but anything 65" and up would definitely make me look at the A80J. You made the right choice. People seriously underestimate the processing on the Sony A80J!
I have been fortunate, Geek squad just said I could keep my 65 inch CX it got a slight slight image retention and I called them and asked if they could send someone out. They said they would junk out my old TV and I could use store credit to get whatever I wanted, and that store credit would be available as long as I wanted. They gave me a 2,800 store credit towards my CX I slapped that down on the A8OJ 77 inch. The 77 inch is way to big for my condo, but it was like I was getting this thing for free. My wife let me keep it and it's like having a movie theater in my house now. Oh man this thing is insane, watched the new Venom last night. Oh my goodness, and I've had Oled since 2015 all LGs. I decided I couldn't resit the Sony at this point. I'm just not a gamer, I love VR games Serious Sam VR, Skyrim VR, if they would please bring Oled passive 3D back I'd be in complete happiness. Anyway I'm super happy I'm lucky enough to have this new set.
I was one of the few people who actually quite enjoy 3D passive technology on TV is it's a big reason why I kept the Panasonic LED shown in the video. Super happy to hear BB didn't screw you over on the TV! You did the right thing on the A80J. Grats and thanks for watching!
Damn thats crazy that they gave you an exchange like that in 2 years. I hope I have your luck in the future.
I think Sony A80J owners would appreciate the upscaling prowess of the XR processor for 'Day's of Our Lives' and the 'Walton's ' re-runs on cable more so than LG owner's 🤣🤣
LOL. I loved Days of Our Lives, for the record.
@@TechTails Hope and Bo forever
LG OLED owners wish fork out extra 700 for a A80J or A90J
People have grabbed the exact same screenshots from games on the A80J and C1 and it is very clear which is from each because the A80J's are clearly better. The A80j makes basically every game, even standard definition ones, sharper looking with more detailed texture and less aliasing. It's just a way better picture. Yes, playing a fast action game this won't really matter much, but it makes the point that the pros and cons for gaming are actually a lot more balanced than people claim. You can have a C1 with VRR and enoughHDMI2.1 ports and a good picture, or you can have an A80J with no VRR, have to use a switcher for a second HDMI 2.1 port, but have a great picture.
Nailed it on the head my friend. Absolutely true
They were suppose to have a update for VRR and low latency input on the Sony but I couldn’t tell you if they ever released it since I don’t own the TV.
I went Sony A80J and it's phenomenal for the price. Love it. THX says I need a 90" tv for 9 foot viewing distance. I have 65", maybe I can get a 77" next time but it still won't be enough ...
Hey, thanks for sharing your experience. I actually just bought the 77a80j and waiting for it now.
Meanwhile I could not resist googling for hours if I made the right choice or if I should have bought the c1 for it's wider list of features. Then I watched some videos from that quantum guy. He quotes that motion on the a80j is really bad compared to the c1. It kind of made me worried, because I thought that would be one of the strong points of the sony. But after watching a couple of his videos, I felt a bit sceptical. His main argument is that "purists" won't appreciate technical progress. And after you mentioned the C1 and G1 handles motion with the SOE it came to my mind, that he actually likes this effect. I work in post production and I actually always keep my eyes open for new tech. But things like motionblur, film grain and dof have always been very important and I think eliminating these are more of a step backward than forward. Still I would not call myself a purist.
Anyways thanks for sharing your thoughts as most people won't have the option for a direct comparison, I really enjoyed listening to you. Also nice explanation of those features, tbh I am kind of a marketing victim often times. There a so many modes and features I probably will never make use of or don't even know what they are doing. E.g. I did not know what Allm does but at first thought "oh no, I want to have it" , but after hearing your explanation I actually could not care less. VRR is the only thing where I think it would be a big downside for gamers if Sony won't give an update. And I could not find clear information, if 4k @ 120hz will be possible without drawbacks.
Still I think Sony would have done themselve a big favour if they added features and ports (useless or not) just to give customers a better feeling ;)
But at the end of the day, picture quality and the wow effect is what matters to me and I hope I will be satisfied with the a80j.
Hey Chrisco Thanks so much for your comment and you are most welcome! If you take a look at the comments, I replied to someone called Sid Churgh who actually seems to have asked questions related to the comments by the person you are mentioning who I won't name because it leaves a sour taste in my mouth, lol. Please feel free to read that because I don't want to copy and paste that for you but I feel it would do a lot to quell any worries you might have especially in terms of motion and blue tint. As for marketing - no need to be embarrassed because we've all been there at some point in our lives and there is a lot of misinformation and pure convoluted information on the internet. I will agree that more gaming features never hurt but at the end of the day the whole point of a TV is for picture quality at least in my opinion. I guarantee you if picture quality is something high on your list the Sony will not disappoint this year.
Good choice got mine a week ago. I don’t think I’ll ever go LCD but again you never know.. Some of those TVs are impressive
I got the C1 love it.
I bought the 65 inch Sony A80j to replace my 55 LG CX, and honestly dude I’m glad that I went for Sony. Picture quality is top notch, and with the ALM and VRR update Sony is too competitor. LG is only faster by 3 ms input lag as far as I know, but you dont notice that difference in real life day to day use. Meanwhile, picture quality on the other hand is definitely one of the most things you will notice and will care for. If youre a competitive gamer, and you want the fastest low input lag for a tv then by all means go for LG. If movies and picture quality is what you care for the most, then Sony hands down.
I planned on skimming through this video and maybe watch 2 minutes of it but I ended up watching the entire 40+minutes. you are incredibly good at conveying information without sounding like a salesman or fanboy. You sound like you’re giving advice to a buddy. I appreciate that very much. Great work. Subscribed
Means the world. Thank you for the lovely comment. Definitely thats what I aim for is objectivity as much as possible with my subjective take clearly laid out. I kinda stopped making videos as currently not much new in the tech space and also I am trying to keep my content organic. More videos to come when theres more to genuinely make!
A little late on this comment, I know. Major props for a very real, down to earth, no B.S. review! Just bought a 55” A80J for exactly the reasons outlined here. And, oh yeah, got it for under a grand, $100 less than a 55” LG C1! After all, I wanted a TV first and foremost, not an expensive gaming monitor.
can confirm no image retention on the a80j 77 inch that I have ZERO!!!
Excellent video that deserves way more views. One of the best Sony vs LG comparison videos I've seen on youtube. I was extremely torn between the LG and Sony OLED's but the more research I did, the more I started to come to the same conclusion that you did, that despite the LG's gaming features, the better picture quality of the Sony's was worth a few minor inconveniences. I was ready to grab the next 77 inch a80j that went on sale, but now I am wondering if perhaps I should wait for the new models to drop. The prospect of more models with heatsinks and the updated brighter panels, is pretty enticing. Do you have any thoughts on the upcoming models? If you hadn't purchased an OLED yet, would you wait for the new models or jump on one of the super bowl sales on last years models?
Thanks Scott! Glad you liked the video! :) As I mentioned in another comment you can buy now or wait. It all comes down to price. At 77" especially, even if Sony did add a heatsink....which they already announced they won't....its gonna be very very pricey for marginal gains currently. Tech outdates very fast, you'll have something that is the best for 1 year tops before people talk about the next best thing. Buy the year you want not based on what other new features will come, but whether you'd be happy with what you'd get NOW. Otherwise your FOMO will keep going. More nits is great but the actual subjective vs objective measure of that change is something I doubt most people can distinguish in an A/B comparison truthfully. It hasn't made leaps and bounds yet for 2022 models.
@@TechTails I was gonna get the 77” A80J for this years Black Friday, but most think it’ll be sold out by then. I just want the best 77” WOLED, and this year it’s either between the A80K and the C2/G2. I’m optimistic that Sony’s processing will once again beat out the LG’s PQ wise, but we’ll see. Will you have another comparison vid this year like this one between LG and Sony?
Kinda a noob on TV info but does the Sony a80j have vrr now after updates or does the ps5 support vrr now after any updates ?
Yes! As I predicted :)
Great video 📹 👍 love that your just keeping it real and being strait to the point and the cat 🐈 is cool 😎.
I did the same and bought both tvs 📺 and at the end of the day I took the LG back and kept the 77A80j,
I am very picky when It come to picture 📸 quality and the sony delivers the wow factor and is so much cleaner image then the lg.
So yes I agree 👍 💯 Sony a80j is the winner 🏆 🥇
Hey G! Thanks for your comment! I'm glad that you were able to relate to the content and of course I am always trying to keep it real. I don't have a script and everything I say literally comes from my mind in the moment and a strong approach to opinion that is grounded in reality and objectivity as much as it can be. I appreciate you taking the time to watching the review and hope you enjoy your A80J! From the sounds of it, you definitely are. 🥳
The way I look at is the eye test and looking at Best Buy the 80j just did something for me!!
I have both, and each one is ideal for intended purposes in different rooms in my house.
Sony a80j 77” in the living room with an open floor plan since it’s really bright during the day and there’s always some kind of light on at night. Perfect for watching movies or streaming services. Also hooked up to a denon s960h receiver and SVS 1000 pro, in-ceiling mounted 5.1 surround speakers. Best home theater setup I’ve ever had. Viewing angle is pretty impressive even from the kitchen, which is way off to the side.
LG c1 55” connected to a Vizio m512 sound bar in a smaller bedroom converted to a game room where it’s dark, and acoustics are awesome for the soundbar setup. PS5, Xbox X and Nintendo Switch are hooked up and it’s been the best gaming setup I’ve ever experienced.
Thanks for the very well thought out comparison. And for showcasing your awesome cats!
Seems like it’s been common knowledge that Sony had and has better processing and hardware. LG has better prices on average. Even though the Sony is objectively better, I’d still get a LG C series over the Sony. There is a point where you get “good enough” and the cost difference is greater than the performance difference. LG is a value choice.
I just picked up the Sony A80J for $200 cheaper than the LG C1 at Costco
Panasonic jz1500b or Sony a80j? I want best movie experience and jz1500 has display technology as jz2000 but minus sound
Many thanks for an highly opinionated and technologically competent review of the top three OLED TVs for 2021. I read and researched my purchase for months prior to this holiday season and was still not ready to commit to the LG C1 or the Sony A80J until about a week ago. I concur with many of your observations about the picture quality and feature set offerings between LG and Sony.
I concluded LG and Sony have chosen to market their OLED offerings focused on either features a segment of the market place is seeking (i.e. games versus movie watchers) but it turned out to be more nuanced, it's really about the purchaser's subjective opinion of his/her long term viewing experience. And for me the Sony A80J was it.
Thanks for watching Arthur! You definitely understood my review and for that I also thank you. Couldn't agree more with you. I hope you enjoy your purchase 😃
@@TechTails
Question; Besides more screen real estate, what would be the advantages of trading up to the 77" A80J?
Thanks!
@@p9a9r21 I believe the nonmatte screen is a nice advantageous tradeup.
Anything less and you risk your contrast getting muddy due to glare depending on your environment.
I noticed it in the store. The Sony looked incredible and the LG just didn’t look as sharp.
I got exactly same feeling. Sony's picture has something special in comparison with LG. I believe the XR processor makes that difference because panels are of course from LG.
Literally the in-store picture had me back there 3 days in a row as I contemplated the purchase. Finally did it on the third day… just paid and said oh well. Got the 65 inch Sony
Hey great review! I have a question for you. Seems like 2020 and 2021 Sony TVs have an issue with the TV turning on by themselves. This issue is reported on Reddit and all over AVS Forums. People have tried many things including disabling CEC, unplugging all HDMI devices and using internal apps only, covering the IR sensor on the TV, to factory resetting the TV. A bit concerning with an OLED due to burn in. When contacting Sony, they are shrugged off by support reps that say "This is not a well known/reported issue so it must be user related." I know Sony has a pretty poor track record with firmware updates (compared to LG), just a bit worried (55" A80J owner here)
The only thing that’s keeping me from buying the amazing a80j from the lg c1 is the c1’s gaming features and overall better gaming experience that most people talk about but I also watch a lot of movies and I want the amazing PQ of the a80j. My question here is, when Sony releases the VRR update on the PS5 (the Sony tvs support vrr now) will it give the lg c1’s gaming performance some serious competition?
Same here how can you make a ps5 and a TV but not have the set up lag free
@@LilFaceVEVO it’s not the lag but the main problem is when the tv starts getting hot when you play too much the tv gets dimmer
Sony A80j owner here 👍
Had to return mine as wifi keeps disconnecting did a factory reset and now the wifi won’t connect entirely. Will get the LG G1
What size ?
@@S14AA 55inch
Bro....why can’t all the reviews comparing these TVs be more like this, thanks to this video you reminded me of what I really like to buy new tv for and it’s to make my games look great. Now that new update is out it’s even better, but all I got is a Series X and PS5 so 2 ports is enough for me. I was torn between C1 and A80J/A90J, especially for price differences to the A90J, but I think thanks to the Evo Panel and heatsink it should have more longevity, which is another reason in big purchases like this, buy great as well to last. Thanks!
I just purchased the Sony A80J 55inch (first OLED) and received it last week. My previous television was the Samsung KS8000. Took me getting used to but I really like it. I'm used to those punchy bright colors from Samsung. I can't lie though, the Vivid mode on the Sony looks absolutely stunning and I know that's blasphemous to the color accuracy mafia. Lol!!! I use Vivid mode for my gaming, anime, and sports however for movie watching I like custom and Imax Enhanced.
For black Friday I'm definitely getting that Samsung S95B though. That will be for my personal all-around use case but mainly to hookup my 4080 on it.
Still waiting for the A80j to drop back to Black Friday prices at least. I need to wait until the Spring when they start discounting them
Your video was one of the most refreshing TV buying guides...like u said in your video...I have perhaps already "failed" as I am still trying to figure out which one to buy by referring to RUclips videos..and trust me have seen 100s of them in the last 2 weeks time(since we made the insane decision to go for a new tv!!!!) but not being a tech savvy I still find your video to be so easy to go through and more importantly understand😊 I was already leaning towards Sony but unfortunately the A80j is out of stock where we live😕 now we are just waiting...but kudos to you..great job!!
Hey Paromita! Thank you for your lovely comment. I am glad it was able to help you. Yes indeed, the A80J started selling out after the video I made here but mostly because it received all those gaming features as well. Its a killer TV to this day even compared to the newer Sony 2022 line which some say has become a downgrade to an extent. I hope you manage to find one! 😊
@@TechTails yes...and now we are on the verge of dropping the whole idea of getting a new TV cause for me going for the LG c2 or G1/G2 is like a compromise on the TV viewing experience. For us its mostly movies and series that happens on the TV as we arn't into gaming yet. So I am not sure how long we will have to wait for the new launches of Sony and availability here in India
yep Sony every time for pic quality and the new XR chip is miles ahead of the Alpha 9 gen4 in the LG`s!!!!
Yo bro. Really have been enjoying this video so far. Just gotta say tho, the LG G1 does not have a heatsink!
Oh really? I thought it did! 😵 My mistake. Also glad to see you in my comments. I actively have read your comments on other youtube videos and you clearly know your stuff. Im honored.
@@TechTails 😅 I think we all wish it did tho! Don’t sweat it man. I get things wrong all the time. I just thought I’d point it out, since I didn’t see anyone else commenting this. I’m sure everyone will be saying something tho.
Btw! I just got to the end portion of the video. And man…I couldn’t agree with you more! Seriously. Thank you for giving a balance take on this topic. I’ve been struggling with my CX for over a year. Feeling kinda duped to be honest. It’s just not up to my standards, and I even miss my “budget” TCL r625.
Also, this is my first time coming across your channel. You just earned a sub btw! I just thoroughly enjoyed the shit out of this! I also enjoyed that little shade thrown at QTV 😂
@@TechTails You also clearly know how to make quality content! Very impressed! I wish I could make content that looks like this lol. My iPhone just isn’t up to the task. Especially when trying to record a TV, with such high dynamic range, on a camera, with rather poor dynamic range.
@@ye-rochawkins5432 LOL! I'm so glad that reference wasn't lost! LOLLLLL
@@ye-rochawkins5432 I appreciate that a lot. Means a lot to me, lol I really do fiddle with the camera a lot to try and get decent dynamic range and no increased noise floors. Appreciate all your comments and genuinely made my day. Thanks again!
What your opinion about sony x90j?
Is it better than u7g, q80a and tcl r646 for movies and tv shows?
It says the Sony has 2 2.1 hdmi inputs but then says all 4 are 2.3 compatible. Does that help at all? Not even sure what that means.
They also said they would have a VRR and low latency update. Anyone know if they ever actually released that update?
Made a somewhat silly decision to buy a G1 over C1 65inch. The C1 saddly had vesa mount too low on the back to mount nicely above my fireplace. Would have moved it up at least 1 ft 0.0. Which is already a tad annoying.
Figure it would have cost about $300-$400 dollars to try to replace my current full motion mount making the price gap between the two only about $200-$300 bucks.
I am willing to bet I can get a better warranty response on the G1 if I get burnin within 5 years. I have heard of people getting new panels from LG on lower model TVs in the past. So that part is a gamble.
But I agree I mostly stuck with LG for console gaming.
Still torn between the A80J and the A90J. Would you wait for a 2022 model??
If you are gonna have fear of missing out, then you will never purchase. Personally you can wait but in 2023, new models will make the 2022 model seem weaker too. That's the name of the game. Or you may end up waiting even longer due to the chip shortage or dare I say end up with a worse model. Look at what happened to the 2022 Teslas. Buy it if you need it now, if you dont then wait forever lol. End of the day, if your purchase can be super invalidated just like that barring any major changes, it wasn't a very good purchase to begin with
@@TechTails now that the A90J 55 inch is $1999.99, would you say it’s good to get that one over the A80J?
In game mode for the Sony at 120 Hz and the Lg. Both are fast enough to be used for competitive gaming on league at least up to the master level which is what I'm at ATM. If you are not there, it is likely your mechanics and not the TV. The Hz is also not likely to make you a better gamer especially if you are very accustomed to maps even on LCDs. The only thing it does is looks smoother.
I play on the PC, oled is great in light controlled rooms and bad in rooms with lots of windows. So I had my share of multiple TVs.
I think the other big issue standardization. It's just like EVs that need standardization.
Does the a80j have an ambient/art/screensaver mode that can be cycled through at different time intervals?
As far as I'm aware - it has a demo mode you can add pictures to a USB stick and cycle any pictures and the screensaver seems to be a Bravia logo only with a black screen. I really wouldn't use it for ambient art personally. Hope that helps!
@@TechTails thanks very much! I did some research ( very little info available on it) and I think the google tv OS for the tv also has an app or feature "Living Decor" that can be used to cycle through photos, screen savers.
@@sidchugh8371 oh yeah plenty of apps available to get it going. :)
Question in the C1 I have a 77". How can I tell if I have the Evo panel or not?
I just purchased a 55" A80J... What settings or adjustments do you recommend changing that are must haves?
HGiG is HUGE big of a deal! It makes all the difference!
Do I need a Spectro if all I want to do is change it from Judd white point to d65?
I wonder how the Sony A80j compares to the Philips 806.
Great video! I almost didn't watch because there was no visual of the screens, but I was howling when you called out that DEADFOOL character. I almost made the wrong choice. I'm not a gamer, and have dim lighting. So I will treat myself to the A80J in a 65 inch for Christmas. THANKS AGAIN. And of course I subscribed.
Hey David! Awesome! Im glad to have you as a subscriber and am moreover happy you didnt rely on youtube visuals to justify the purchase. Deadfool 🤣 I like that name more! I think your Christmas will be excellent with the A80J! :)
Dancing clown in a Deadpool mask had me dying.🤣
Hello
Thank you for detailed review.
I have couple of questions.
I was going to buy Samsung QN90a however, in my country, it comes with ADS(IPS) panel.
I just bought LG C1 and thinking about refund and go for Sony A80J after watching several reviews because I mostly will be watching movies, serials.
My questions are:
1) Does sony dims the entire screen if a channel logo is bright, just like you mention for game HUDs?
2) Everyone says Sony has better shadow detail and HDR brightness due to XR processor, does it really make noticable difference?
3) How badly it affects the picture quality of Sony as it makes brighter but less quality shadow detail? They say LG has dimmer but better quality shadow detail. Will it be so disturbing on Sony?
3) Does LG look better than Sony on the motion if it is 24p movie which I heard that LG perform better?
4) I dont have professional calibrated in my city. Is it a reason to eliminate LG? Can I calibrate it with the settings and manuals on internet by myself?
5) I mostly watch Netflix etc. Is Sony better for movies for sure? Any disadvantage compared to LG for movies ?
yea some people like LG some people like SONY im personally a sony fan after owning both, i just like the way SONY does motion an SONYS processing with their reality creation is juss better for movies it gives things this cinematic crisp feeling when u combine the 2 it gives a movie experience that LG can not do thats why theyre trying to dominate the gaming market instead because they cant match SONYS movie watching experience
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Thankyou for this video. Helped me alot. Not really a gamer . Somehow I got too old...lol. I have had a Panasonic Plasma for 10 years or so. Still has a great picture. However I just ordered the Sony A80j 77. Do ya think I will be happy with the picture quality? Gonna be hard to beat this old 65 in Panasonic Plasma
@jeffery anderson - how are you getting on with your a80j?
I was in similar situation to you as I had a Samsung F8500 plasma and really loved this TV, but over 22,000 hours on the panel and some damage when the screen was returned after a PSU repair meant I finally had to bite the bullet and get a new TV.
I settled on the a80j as I am not a huge gamer and the XR processing and incredible picture quality on the a80j sold me. Having HDR and seeing it on a large display for the first time is pretty breathtaking!
I like how u lay it out clean and straight out on the table because I was contemplating on lg c1 and the x95j i been by bestbuy for a month and yutube for weeks but now I’ll go for thr a80j 65
Hey man I own the Sony A80J along with my old LGUBKC90 4k player. Looking to upgrade to a different 4k player as I don’t think the Sony a80j supports Dolby vision for this player since the quality is not good on my 4k movies- meaning my streaming content looks better! So what 4k player would you recommend
What’re your thoughts on the Sony VRR update that was just rolled out? I’m on the fence between the C1 and the A80J 77in.
Initially Sonys VRR was disastrous and ugly on non A80J and A90J TVs. Can confirm with VRR, the Sony A80J is a clear cut winner. I tested VRR yesterday on my PC hookup and RTX 3080Ti. It's unbelievable. Sony processing and VRR made your choice a no brainer. The biggest reason people even were on the fence was because LG C1/G1 had VRR and Sony promised it...but they never made good on their promises. People didn't trust them to release it. Now that it has, it's a pretty embarrassing time to be a diehard LG C1 G1 fanboy.
@@TechTails I appreciate the info. Awesome man, this was a tough decision and Mr Deadpool sent me for a loop lol. Now that Sony made good on their promise it’s looking like a no brainer. Just wanted to confirm that they didn’t just half ass on their promise to make due before the 2022 release.Thanks man!
@@JoseGarcia-wj7cp ah yes...deadpool guy....sony motion trashy...because its not a soap opera...OK.
VRR is never a replacement for true GSYNC monitors due to one being hardware and another being software implementation, but right now the A80J definitely got VRR right. All forms of VRR may have slight artifacting...LG C1 and G1 included, but the A80J is the one to go for. And I'm no stakeholder in Sony. I've owned all brands. I always aim for objective truth with subjective interpretation kept seperately in reviews or clarified strongly as that. The A80J is it. In fact the A90J is exceptional too...like a A80J on roids. The ABL on Sony is defined as aggressive....but I have yet to be affected by it too much. Using a PC it doesn't dim at all...or rarely. Either way, its the clear choice for 21 and especially 22.
@@TechTails thanks again!
I went ahead and got the A80J, beautiful tv and a huge upgrade over what i had. I’m currently trying to figure out this WiFi issue. I’m connected but when I run a speed test I’m not getting over 15mb/s DL speed. Every other device I have is seeing well over 100 MB/s. Any idea what the issue could be? I’m seeing Reddit threads where others are having this issue but haven’t stumbled upon a fix.
@@JoseGarcia-wj7cp no problem my friends! I use ethetnet to be honest, but my wi-fi speeds have been OK for the most part. Its tricky. I dont think anything is wrong with your TV, perhaps the distance to the router?
I got the 65inch a80j and love it. My viewing distance only calls for a 60inch TV and I still was so close to grabbing the 77inch cuz I know it will still be glorious vs the 65inch. I just didn't want to cough up an extra 1200 difference haha. I was so close to getting the 77inch CX cuz it was on sale for 2500, glad i stuck with the Sony. Great video man. Easily watched it all.
But the Sony was also around that 2500 price range on sale, at least in my country and I got it. :)
You clearly made a big mistake. I'm sorry for your gigantic loss.
@@afistfulofpimples1745 what are you talking about? I think you don't know his personal preferences and the Sony is clearly better than the LG CX, so in that case he did the right thing.
@@derek4177 I mean choosing the 65 over 77 was a mistake. The 77 is a totally different, better panel.
@@afistfulofpimples1745 oh I see now.
Well it depends I think sometimes you also get the Evo Panel at the 65 inch, but at 77 its 100% the new Evo Panel yea.
How do you access the ASBL and ABL options on the LG Oled?
Hey Bruce
You need the service remote and hit IN-OUT on it. Then you can enter the code (found online very easily) and enter it. ABSL can be disabled but not ABL itself. I clarified that in the video :)
What would you suggest for an extended warranty?
Honestly? Nothing. Maybe Costco at the most. Best Buys burn in protection on a TV of this value I wouldn't put much weight on. Its a mixed bag
Costco...and use their credit card and get 2 more years warranty. 4 yrs in total
We’ll u are right dont rely on some youtubers, just watch them as a guide ,Ive been using SONY tv fast 10 years 950G the last so i know sony are very good in picture quality, never try any oled before till last year CX, which is really good in gaming 2.1 port 4x good picture quality what more sony oled can do i bet much better picture quality, i mean if you know how good the brand is in there top of the line tv u know they really good even samsung Q90series.
Great review! Keep it up! In a another review, I heard that the motion on the a80j is terrible vs c1 for content below 30fps and comparable to c1 for high fps content. What are your thoughts? Also is there a blue tint to a80j that cannot be calibrated out and impacts PQ? Lastly, in what key areas is the a90j better than the a80j as a buy? Tks!
First of all, thanks for watching! I can say with confidence that's simply not the case. It's wonderful at all fps ranges. I believe however there are those that prefer the Soap Opera Effect motion, hence it looks "terrible" to them. For blue tint - it most definitely can be calibrated out. You definitely heard wrong from the person claiming the blue tint is not able to be calibrated out - that "tint" is simply Sony's modified Judd - can be calibrated. Pre-calibration yes it may seem bluer to people in terms of the white full-field. Definitely check out NinjicianAV - he is an actual respectable calibrator and awesome all-around guy. Not just someone claiming they were a professional calibrator that made videos under the guise of a Deadpool mask (yikes). A90J has slightly more impactful audio than the A80J and is also able to reach brighter peak luminance for highlights.
Much appreciated! Does burn-in become a very real concern on these OLEDs if, amongst other uses, one also uses these TVs to cycle through photos/art gallery?
@@sidchugh8371 I wish I could answer that. I don't believe there has ever actually been objective tests done to measure panel variances and the effects of burn in from purpoted usage of still image/gallery viewing at least to a massive extent. It's just generally accepted to not put anything static for long periods of time and constantly on OLEDs or use it like a moving picture frame permanently. LG created the gallery G1 for this very reason you mention BUT I'm not quite sure what makes the LG confidently claim they will support it for gallery usage other than it being pretty flat and coming with their 5 year warranty...instead of actual advancement of technology to allow it to be used as a gallery display. I would say you could easily view photos on OLED...not a problem...just perhaps avoid gallery usage.
From LG directly : Most cases of burn-in in televisions is a result of static images or on-screen elements displaying on the screen uninterrupted for many hours or days at a time - with brightness typically at peak levels.
Again...they do mention technology such as pixel refresh etc...but Sony has that as well. So they market it for that...with no real proven new tech to prevent burn in, lol
If someone is having motion issues on the 2021 Sony OLEDs, it is most likely user error. Well I can guarantee you it is. Like that dude QTV who claims the Sony motion is so terrible this year. Which is just simply not true at all. People really need to start looking into this guys claims. Not to mention, the pure fact he cranks motion interpolation to max on every TV he ever has in. HUGE RED FLAG, coming from a supposed “TV reviewer” and “the number one brand in honesty” 🤣
The Sony’s are just a little odd, and the “cinemotion” needs to be set correctly, to get a proper frame cadence, without any frame drops, stutters, etc. Tbh, Sony has the best motion out there imo. Especially for those who want cinematic motion, and not the hyper real SOE look. Sony also has a superior BFI implementation.
Also, blue tint not being able to be calibrated out is a lie. The blue tint being spoken of, is probably just the modified Judd offset white point. You should really question that calibrators skills, if they say that can’t be calibrated out.
@@ye-rochawkins5432
Why do you say motion process is user error ?
1 - 24hz over 24p, bluray / htpc cinemotion needs to be off because no pulldown required and motionflow user choice ?
2 - Apps @60hz, chromecast/TVapps, needs cinemotion to high to reach 5:5 pulldown (24x5 due to 120hz panel) and motionflow user choice ?
What other things can people mess up ?
Then, does motionflow works better over 60hz vs 24h ?
I can send htpc 60/120hz if 24hz mode is not enough to deal with motionflow tbh
Ive also seen that BFI isnt a viable option as it lower panel overall picture
Im worried to get "unlogical stutter" on every slow pans or slight moving people/object background, rather prefer a tiny blur
Went to a store, sure, 60fps demo youtube content ofc, couldnt be able to test other thing yet
Quality on this is exceptional and you make great points about not showing the TVs side by side it really wouldn't be telling much how are u only at 200 subs? also great display of the a80j at start
Thank you!! I don't rely on youtube for a living so my sub base isn't big nor do I honestly try to push for subs. *shrug*
You convinced to get a80j 77’ thanks bud 👍
Great info! With regards to the 2 hdmi 2.1 ports, couldn’t this be also resolved by connecting the hdmi 2.1 eARC port to an AV receiver with hdmi 2.1 out (eg. denon s760h) and connecting game consoles/pc to the receiver through hdmi 2.1 ports on the receiver?
No not really because if you want to use VRR and you make the hdmi signal to support it now all your sources will fall under that format (game mode) you won’t be able to use cinema standard or other picture modes. In my case I had to use hdmi 4 and activate the VRR signal for ps5 but leave the signal for the hdmi 3 earc to enhanced or Dolby enhanced if you have the Apple TV connected to receiver because that’s the only way to get Dolby vision from Apple TV. I hope this answers your question but if you need me to explain differently I can try to help you out understand
Thanks mate, any chance you can do a guide on A80j settings
So Sony A80J doesn’t have bad soap opera affect? I just bought the G1 and I have to completely turn off motion smoothing to have that non-soap opera cinema look. I am 99% sure I am going to return it for the A80J since I want a TV mostly for movies/streaming/sports.
Correct. It can have it if you crank up settings though...but the A80J is just better than the G1. Mine was a 65" G1 for reference
@@TechTails Awesome, Thanks.
Your right on the hgig.. dead on. A few games look better and it is usually in the clouds lol.
Many games don't even look like they are in HDR with hgig.
The TV opinion, I can't agree. It's the same panel, so any idea they aren't close is hyperbolic.
The Sony has stutter no matter what you do. The judder (stutter) can be dialed in on the c1.
It definitely depends how you want your motion represented. OLED stutter is bad though due to the fast response and it's sample and hold refresh. That's why I like having it mostly fixed.
I use 8 and 8 for motion and dejudder on the c1. As far as accurate color, I tune by eye, but take my time, so out of the box wasn't a issue.
The reduce blue light filter on the c1 is a great start to getting it's picture much closer to "right" out of the box.
Hey Paul thanks for watching and the comment! So this whole notion of "same panel, same TV" is the most hyperbolic actually, which is ironic. As I mentioned to two others, same panel with dramatically different processing - which comments like these gravely misjudge and simplify dare I say to justify their C1 G1 purchases. If the C1 and G1 were same panel and the same image to the Sony, where is it on the HDTVTest shootout? Nowhere to be found. Not that it's a be all end all, but clearly the Sony has something about it or a lot of people are having mass hysteria which I doubt. But at the end of the day, its all opinion. Go with what you prefer, bottom line.
As for "stutter" I think you might have a personal preference for the soap opera effect, but I and many others don't. I found no issues on the motion with the Sony, but the dialability can be argued as sony has two functions to motion.
@@TechTails stutter isn't about individual motion on screen. It's about panning shots. The entire screen will shake as it moves.
Yes I truly don't care what " influencers" think. At least not to the level I don't trust my owner eyes.
OLED's aren't even "great" for gaming because of judder (stutter) and no one talks about that, none of the influencers 🤷♂️
"King of tv". It's all marketing and hype. They are the exact same panels, the Sony is more calibrated out of the box and idiot proof. Less settings and a lot of things can't even be turned off with the XR this year. 890J gives you a heat sink which is awesome but the ABL is really aggressive and more noticeable. Plus they priced it up the nose this year
They are similar TV's, they aren't leagues apart. I would say "same panel, very similar to TVs.". You're right same TV is hyperbolic.
Depends what you prefer on how they do processing. That's literally the difference. They are cousins. Both are attractive, but it's blondes to brunettes as I'm concerned 🤷♂️.
Good thing about TV is they can be returned if you get them and don't like one. 😁. Just have to do it fast
@@paulcox2447 True they can be returned which is great, agreed. Whomevers processing you prefer, go with that. 👍
@@TechTails 💯 for what it's worth you've earned my subscription.
Thanks, I’m getting a Sony. Was searching for validation
LG G1 don't have heatsink just a new Evo Panel, only the Sony A90J and Panasonic JZ2000 have heatsinks this year.
Yeah that was a little error on my part 😅. Thanks for watching! Cool name btw
Yeah the g1 Def doesn't have a heatsink lol its why side by side the g1 and c1 in actual content is almost identical to the average consumer they can't even see it and I'm talking about none sponsored people here lol to many people sponsored by lg this year it's insane never seen anything like it lol hey man I appreciate your views and I agree sony is just in another league now now when I talk about lg I'm not talking about banding and stuff snd uniformity which is panel by panel it's panel variance I wouldn't say the lg g1 is actually cleanser as you may get another c1 that's cleaner then your g1 and the Evo panels are known for having huge panel variance some get good ones some don't value electronics said they have had alot more lg g1 Evo panel issues then the a90j with the latest panel so yeah just variance tbh but awesome video for sure lol also abl is actually to protect the tv from getting thermal damage not just burn in lol its why your full screen whites don't get as bright that isn't for burn in now logo luminance is for burn in now sony doesn't have a setting to change the logo luminance but they still do it lol but again my a90j I almost never ever notice it only with tons of hugs and even then it comes right back when you start moving around at least on the a90j it does
Hey man! Glad to see you here! Could not agree with you more. And yeah I don't know how I thought the G1 had a heatsink. Major flup on my part, lol. Yeah thermal damage as well, I just figured to simplify it for people that may not know the big issue of burn-in. As for ABL on A80J - yeah, I mean it does usually come back if I move around and slowly get brighter the same way it dims. Changing inputs is the INSTANT method. Thanks again for your comment and I envy you with your A90J. If they made the A90J in 77" I would have bought it - no question.
@@TechTails I love you dude finally an honest straight up person sometimes brutal honesty needs to be done. There is way to much not being driven home about the difference. I don't like all these channels sponsored by gl they are even doing 3k dub channels sending 3 c1 to keep and shit. I have screen shots of the dude admitting it. They got caught trying to manipulate reviews this year when 2 channels spoke out about it. Do yeah hard to see these people lieing about so much. It's refreshing to see someone like me doing videos. It's needed people take me wrong sometimes but it's not meant to be personal lol. I'm happy you saw it I do belive some people don't have our eyes. They can't see certain shades we see. They can't see the details we see. But still it's noticeable enough that most should see it and if they don't then something is wrong lol.
@@reviewforthetube6485 I love you too man! Haha 🤣 To be honest, in the past when I used to do reviews for publishing and games journalism [my background], I worked with LG 4 times, and the 3rd and 4th time they did offer me "keeper" units of their TVs in exhange for...well...a glorified advertisement in the ruse of what would be a "review." One condition was also I had to send them the article beforehand...of course I didn't like it one bit. Then they said OK you dont have to send it to us beforehand...but obvipusly exchange of a free TV is deeply concerning and I could never do that because I feel there's a level of quiet submission that goes with that. On one hand you get early access to product...and more views or readers...but on the other hand..you sell your soul for some metal. I will always choose my soul over technology that ages anyways and to be honest with anyone who gives me their valuable time in watching anything I do. And yes, I definitely see what you see in terms of the picture quality. Enjoy your A90J my friend! Bask in its glory, haha! 😁
@@reviewforthetube6485. So you're saying Whisper Status is a paid sponsor from LG?? Because he's not. I literally seen him do a CX vs Sony A80J, he definitely said they're literally so close. I even seem him replying too your comments, & he put you in place. Because you was going on about colours or something. He reviews alot of TVs, he's definitely not paid off. Its a shame. You Sony lovers are literally saying, Sonys oleds are way ahead of everything. Which is basically wrong! 🤫
@@JamesLee-ph9go no I didn't say anything about whisper wtf lol. whisper didn't put me in my place. Whisper and I are actually fiends, you have no idea what you are talking about right now and did I say whisper? Don't start shit all because we are stating our opinions and don't try bringing people into this that were never involved in my statement. Whisper is not sponsored but there are many many channels that are man you can choose not believe it all you want to. The proof is out there not hard to find at all. Whisper stated to me was he had live color on after he showed the settings when I brought up live color that's it. Umm that's not putting someone in there place and his name is Brian and again we are friends I love how you just brought in whisper out of every youtuber out there it makes no sense why he was the one you brought into the situation. What's funnier is he's one of the youtubers I'm closer to lol. Hell he used to shout me out in his videos in 2019 and 2020 so please don't ever bring up whisper up in that way to me again. As if I said something about him when clearly I didn't. Whisper also said the soby tvs do have an advantage in loves and tv shows due to the processor so don't forget to mention that part either.
Great stuff. Very very informative.
Great review. Thank you. I think this just sold me on the A80J. I was so torn like every one else on the C1 vs A80J. I am coming from a 8 year old SDR 60hz LED. This will be my first OLED. Your final comment how the C1 looks like an LED with better contrast was the final straw in my decision. I have waited this long so I want a real upgrade. Also I HATE soap opera effect like you do. I want 24p films to look like movies. Not like sports games. Plus I don't want to calibrate my shit. I wonder how many average people actually calibrate their TVs. I want it right out of the box. So thanks again for all your insight.
You are most welcome
What settings you use one a80j?? thanks
Very detailed review, especially for your channel size. I'd recommend going for a clean intro track as not to alienate people who care about that kinda thing as your chan grows. I have the A8H and love it. Fully agreed PQ doesn't come close between the two brands, even with last years sony
Thanks Steezy! I appreciate the feedback. It's a fair point. Regardless, my content isn't focused on anyone who probably can't handle cuss words and terms that the black community frequently uses. I do listen to music like this, and I do tend to even cuss in some* of my videos, I just didn't in this one. To replace the track with a clean version wouldnt be authentic to me, even if I usually don't use intro tracks like this a lot. As I said in the video, I'm really not doing this for subscribers nor do I do videos often. I have a primary job that pays me well and I am not looking to make RUclips my career. Should I alienate some people, that's alright by me. I won't appeal to everyone. That's OK. I appreciate regardless if the viewer can at least have the big picture mentality to look past the song choice they disagree with and perhaps engage with the other 44 minutes of valuable content, haha. At least to glean some useful info! Thanks for watching and I appreciate you! Great nickname :)
@@TechTails fair enough brother, you do you! It doesn't bother me but just thought I'd throw it out there because with the amount of work and content there I think your chan could be big if you keep putting out vids like that :)
The fact that you have had to deal with LG for OLED several times already says a lot about the quality.
Hahaha, I got that jab at The cray cray QTV guy
LOL. ;D Thanks for watching! Appreciate it immensely and I hope I helped.
@@TechTails you didn’t help, but that’s cause I wasn’t watching for help. Just wanted to see your opinion. Dug the video though
Great video with loads of information. Could you talk a little more about the semi Matt screen on the a80j below 70 inch size. Does it effect the brightness or Colours on the tv compared to a glossy screen like on the a90j and c1 and G1? It’s the only real thing putting me off. I’m also looking at the Philips 806 as it is winning awards over here in Europe. Thanks
Hi Gump! Wonderful question! So, I DID accidentally leave out from the video that I did also purchase the Sony A80J 65" prior to the A80J 77" purchase which was smaller for my room. I can easily upload my receipt from Best Buy if anyone doubts this. I did end up getting an EVO WBE panel on that thankfully. Now a correction: it's not matte, its semigloss technically. Rmember, it is still an OLED, so its not like LCD matte screens or their complaints on the net. If you have light in that room, then yes the semigloss screen can affect the PERCEIVABLE colors and brightness. What I mean is for example - some will say that the screen actually helps cut down reflections or mute reflections for their environment which actually makes things look better in their situation than a glossy one if they have certain reflections at certain angles hitting the TV. And if that is the case then naturally colors would look better as well because then you're not getting reflection deviations on the panel. Some peceivable contrast in that situation might be better. But admittedly if all else is equal and there aren't that many Reflections or light sources, then the glossy panel should be able to produce a more superior image in a controlled setting but not by a lot. We are hairpicking here. Semigloss screen does affect brightness when it comes to objective measurement as the transmission of light across these layers is different, but in real world it can be effectively a toss up due to reduced reflections. In a dark room, unlikely perceptible. Personally and this is just me, I would much rather have the semigloss screen and reduced glare than a glossy screen that is lacking the Sony processing with any other 2021 display. I hope I helped. Thanks for watching!
I def was nervous about the extra input lag on the Sony but I might just get it
Got the 65inch a80j. I wanted the 77 so bad and I was close, but during black friday it was an extra 1200 and I just couldn't do it haha.
Damn this was very nice. Thx for that.
I dont know wich TV i should buy the c1 or a80j but after that I will buy the a80j.
So you notice Any Motion Problems on the Sony? Some people Talk about that.
Zilch.
@@TechTails zilch?
@@GrinchyBoby no motion problems whatsoever :)
Great review. I should come by sometime.
I would be glad to have you over or get lunch with you anytime! Just say when haha :) Always love watching your content and streams. Hug your cat for me and thank you for watching my video. I was so stoked to see a comment from you in here, and as always will send people your way! I'm honored and appreciate your time
@@TechTails Anytime. I'm near SDSU. You're welcome to come by and listen to the setup. I actually would be curious to compare our i1Pro spectros for accuracy tests.
I calibrated my A8h with some settings online…it’s looks really good now with sdr and hdr and dv.. it’s accurate.. but yea it’s a touch washed looking. I realize now that Samsung and lg have the look I’m going for . But the a90j is the dream. But they don’t have a 77 inch. I guess I gotta wait for cheaper heats ink oled from Sony
Use bt2020 and live color. It will boost the colors.
@@lewisevander it's still not what I want.ill probably just get the 77 inch a80k on black Friday, and sell this one.
Quantum would have a heart attack lol
Lol 😆
Hate that guy because he talks about issues not a single person talks about. While literally EVERYONE praises motion and processing on Sony TVs he complains. Just look at dramatic clickbait titles and thumbnails on his videos. Not sure what his beef is with Sony. Definitely not a reliable source for TV reviews.
Lol the quantum shoutout, nice breakdown
Nice review, the missus chose the a80j over the c1 as well lol so theres gotta be some truth to your thing!
She's a keeper! I guess that's why she's your missus lol :)! thank you!!
@@TechTails I purchased both and returned the C1.
@@fleyua7176 I returned the C1 and G1 as well.
Sony Bravia A80J is better than C1 the G1 has no heatsink and neither will the G1.
So today my 65 c1 came in and what can i say i like it but im not impressed at all maybe because some people hype oled way 2 much
So i already had the 75 q90t which is a beast tv for gaming movies etc especially after the last 2 updates the tv had
I had it paired with my xbox series x thats in my living room.
I needed anotha tv so i can game in peace becouse usualy when i wanna game my gf wants to watch tv lol regardless i had a man cave wth no tv so i jumped on the c1 since best buy already has black friday deals
1. the q90t already has really good picture quality color and contrast with very dark Inky blacks seems oled like to me honestly
so when i played a few movies on the c1 i wasnt wowed only thing i can say is maybe the c1 is a little more clear but that can be cuz its also smaller
2.Coming from a bright qled i can honestly say the lg oled is not dim at all and just to note my man cave is dim And so is my living room i dont like gaming or watching tv in the complete dark and i had no brightness issue at all with oled
3.Gaming idk they seem both hella good to me honestly and bith show good pq on game mode and play very smooth and responsive
Will heres my quick review for my firt time oled experience and what can i say u cant go wrong with a flag ship samsung qled or a lg oled there both good
Any1 have questions feel free to ask
I wish the aj80 came in 83in I would have gotten it went with the c1 for size .
Is the other way around LG wows on the best buy floor
The fact you're comparing on the floor speaks volumes. That's pretty poor.
A80J cab look like A90J by calibrating it I think A90J needs price cut should be more 700 over A80J
It comes close minus those highlight nits and windows. A90J is superior but 1,000$ superior is arguable.
3 way switcher? really? at this price range these TVs should have 3+ DHMI 2.1 ports.
Yes! Really 🤣. Never said not having those was awesome, but then again neither is lackluster picture quality at this price range (the LGs). But hey if the 3 HDMI 2.1s is a dealbreaker by all means, get the C1 or G1 - one of my monitors is a C1 48" but I wouldn't dream of using the current LG Oleds of 2021 as my primary viewing platform. As I said in the video, when the product is good you try to work around its limitations. But a simple 10$ switcher will give you the 3 HDMI 2.1 ports you want on the A80J/A90J.
When I went to buy trust me 65a80j looked the dullest compared to Samsung q80 or any other tv on display but I still chose Sony just because I had used a 6 year old Sony and knew what it meant to have one.
Brought home and rewatch all old RUclips videos and damn they did look much sharper and fluid. Was worth the 1k extra cash.
Came here for the comparison, stayed for the one-eyed cat. 😍😍😍
Thanks for watching Sinan! Glad to have you here 😁
Where are the TVs what’s going on in this video no TVs no comparisons
directly liked this video because of this amazing cats!
☺🐈🐈🐾
Thank you
That whitebang grey cat look 🔥🔥
Thanks man! How nice to say
His name is Tuna 😃
Damn nobody in the AV community likes quantum tv lol 😂 listening to him I bought a c1 lots of black crushing and soap opera effect long story short swapping out Sony A80j on the way
Thanks for Watching Justin! 100% the choice is the Sony A80J. DON'T pass it up
Get my 65 A80j on Monday , exciting😁. Sorry mate what the f... was that intro music. 🤐🤔🙄
That m8 is Juice WRLD. He is the 49th most top artist in the world according to the charts. 😁 give his songs a listen and broaden your mind past some cultural vernacular. Enjoy your TV and thanks for watching!
@@TechTails ohhh ,WOWWO , the 49TH most top artist in the world according to the charts 🙄😳
STILL NAH, PASS 😍😀👍🙏
Cant wait until Monday , lots of 4k blurays waiting to enjoy on it 😀🤜🤛
@@kevod09 🤣🤪
Problem is C1 was £850. A80J was £1180
And yet thats a problem if you wanna buy cheap. Yes...I agree
What is not even close to what?
The only game I see ABL in is Madden. All other games I literally can’t even tell you it exits
If i leave the room ABL will kick in....sure. but thats a panel saving feature i dont mind at all. Other than that I NEVER have ABL on games. Probably like you said Madden or Fortnite will be affected
@@TechTails yep. I play rainbow six siege and no noticeable ABL. I’m not sure why madden triggers this and rainbow doesn’t. Rainbow has an insane amount of static Images lol
If you guys ever get it, you can also just "pause" and "unpause" so it will be gone for a few minutes becaus the static picture changed :D
I don’t think G1 have heatsink i know is only evo panel, A90j the only oled got heatsink. sony always superb on picture quality Because of there processor but LG is close and cheaper being practical i just go for C1.
LG is not close. That was literally the thumbnail. 😆 it might be close for people who can't get close to affording a Sony this year, to that I agree.
The LG C1 was mainly made for gaming and it is doing an amazing job ,for me all the rest is a bonus.
Of course SONY makes a better overall TVs but the C1 wasn't made to compete with that.
Isn't the A80J doing a lot better in gaming Upscaling and tonemapping in HDR? It also looks far superior in SDR. Not to mention the out of the box calibration being 75% better than the C1? I'm wondering why the LG is better then? Strange.
As i said, the LG C1 is not made to compete with SONY. It is more affordable for many people and the gap between them is not as big like you described.
@@cod4787 Let's be real and stop the BS. The Sony is vastly superior in everything against the C1. It shouldn't even be compared. C1 also dims even with the ABSL turned off in the service menu. And when it does, it doesn't refresh back to normal, it stays dim. The Sony comes back to normal brightness after a minute or so. It does the dimming to avoid burn in. Disabling this on LG will just be more propense of burn in but LG users seem to don't care about it and not even being real with their TV's = lower PQ, less detail, blurry PC mode against the amazingly sharp Sony PC mode, less brightness against Sony amazing HDR tonemapping and SDR levels, worse calibration colors, even worse stand and worse sound. The Sony is pricey but it's worth it. The LG is cheaper and there's a reason for that, all the just mentioned issues against the Sony. Grow up fanboys.
Cool cats 😻. Ridiculous take on TV's 👎
Either you're trolling, or you have never seen both TV's in person (I don't mean at the store obviously)
The amazing PQ of these OLEDs (especially in 4K HDR) is barely distinguishable by professional calibrators, however for you they're "on a different level"? Exaggerate much?!
Maybe make some cat videos. They are adorable, especially "one eyed Willy". 💗
Hey thanks for the comment. Not sure how my take can be ridiculous...its my take and you are free to agree or disagree in this case. If you even took the time to watch the full video I actually bought them and tested them all in my home enviornment (obviously) hence me showing the receipt for those, lol.
And yes OLEDs have great picture quality but the LG OLEDs are laughable PQ this year. The Sony compared to the LG IS on a different level as cheesy as it sounds.
The LGs look like my 2014 LED with better contrast...which in the video I admitted was a 5000$ LED for its time. In terms of clarity and the rest, I just don't see it! I'm sorry if you purchased a LG. Is what it is. Theres a reason it won nothing other than gaming for the HDTVTest showdown.
Also yes I love my cats and fully agree they are the best reason and perhaps only reason to watch my videos 🤣
He’s not trolling. I actually agree with almost everything he said. The Sony’s are superior TV’s, with superior PQ, and superior processing.
They are not as close as people/reviewers say. They just aren’t. And people are definitely doing a little covering for LG.
Coming from a LG OLED owner!
@@ye-rochawkins5432 I think it depends on the content your throwing at the panel myself.Good quality UHD or streaming 4k high bitrate on Netflix etc looks fantastic on LG'S......also there's just as many Sony A80J owners on threads and forums disappointed in the PQ....A90J well that's a different story
@@mrwalker6026 my lg 65" c1 looks good with uhd to be fair but i definitely do wish i could have afforded the a80j or 90j and can admit that the c1 doesnt really make me go woah to my LCD Samsung but its a nice image still for me anyways. most people who are complaining about a80j i seen just seem to have panel issues, not anyone who is like oh i have no issues but this is not great. a90j and 80 j are within 10% quality wise. id definitely take a 80j over the c1 just say when as long as i dont have to pay moreeee ugh
@@heathscarl4356 it all depends on the content, your expectations and how long since you've upgraded to a newer panel....I have a C9 and it looks identical to my Cx..and again C1 looks more of the same with incremental upgrades.....
The A90J is probably the most impressive but geez are you paying for it and it's only processing which I have little interest in and I don't watch cable....
Qd Oled's will be showcased in January at CeS,and Samsung, Sony,Panasonic and even TCL on board for the new technology offering 12 bit...
BTW I can't stand Android TV or Google TV personally, LG and Samsung OS is much better and their app functionality...
It comes down to little things more than upscaling and processing for me ,even something like the LG magic remote
15€ in belgium
LOL Hahahahaha Oh ok so wait, you mean the 8,000.00 tv is nicer than the 2800.00 tv?
You dont say? Thats wierd.
so to make sure we know that the Lg oled is trash compared to the Sony, ok got it.
A more delusional description from a fan boy you will never find anywhere on the interwebs than this dude lol BUT it is his opinion so..whatever.
I get it you really love the Sony and hey why not it is a great tv, if it werent for the exorbitant cost and lack of gaming features Id have one, but to say the Lg is trash next to is ridiculous, next to the Sony the Lg oled is the nicest image quality out,
th0en others qned, qled etc..
The Sony A80j is so close to the C1/G1 when put on mutual settings that 90% of people could never tell them apart.
Technically it is a little nicer, BUT lacks a lot of things the C1 offers, and I own a Series X and use it everyday so tome these are important.
So between the two as close as they are, the LG gets my vote for this reason.
If I could afford an A90j for movies and a C1 for games, that would be a perfect world situation.
The Sony is also the most expensive tv in its class and it isnt a little more, it is 3 thousand dollars more.
Sony A90j 83" 7999.99 Lg C1 83" 4999.99 lol that is 3,000.00 more for yes a nicer looking tv sure, BUT 3,000.00 nicer? GTFO
Its not so much nicer that any sane person wuold spend 3000.00 extra to have one IMO.
Ladies and gentlemen, here we have a buyer sipping on copium. Observe, witness, take pictures. 🤣 I didn't have to read this rant to know you bought a LG and probably said something along the lines of "its so close" [its not and anyone can tell] + the Sony is expensive! Listen, good for you. Go enjoy your LG but don't be delusional. The A90J is a 8k TV, which wasn't even the focus of this video (way to pay attention). You clearly didn't even watch the video before unraveling all this trivial garbage in my comments section because a lot of your bull was addressed in a very easy to understand way. Maybe not easy enough for you though.
P.S. dont bother responding, you're muted.
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Dude, why you are filimg yourself so much? I wanted to see the TVs, not your face.
For the same reason morons like you exist, I just did. If you unclogged the stupidity from your ears, I filmed my face because I'm actually trying to have an informational discussion about these things. Of course if you had the actual intellect to grasp that and not the IQ of a mosquito being drawn to the light of the TVs and wanting to see an entire video of just the TVs on a subjective camera, you missed the point and are most definitely not someone who gets it.