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Orel isn't even close to a psychopath he is capable of empathy and emotions, two of the best moments of this is when he began to cry when Clay was spilling his guts in nature part 1 because he genuinely felt bad for him and in the lost episode abstinence when he tries to cheer up Doughy after a very depressing and real moment between the two. (Since the second example isn't officially canon to the mainline story here's another example, when he gives Shapey and Blocky his stop motion set.) Orel may struggle at times with empathy but he is very much capable of it.
the fact that Orel broke the abuse cycle and retained his faith brought me to tears. it would've been so easy for him to turn atheist, or turn out like his dad, but he DIDN'T.
I even agree as an atheist. Not every atheist becomes one due to bad experiences with religion. Not every religious person who had bad experiences with religion becomes an atheist. So Orel staying religious, but marrying Christine (which can be interpreted as marrying outside his denomination) and seemingly finding a version of Christianity he feels comfortable with is refreshing. It's one of the more "mundane" outcomes that I feel media very rarely discusses and I enjoy seeing it.
that’s the point the series was making. people use bojack horseman to justify being a bad person due to generational trauma, that the trauma makes it so it isnt your fault. morel orel proves that it’s you who has the power to break that cycle, and falling into it is also your choice in a way. (like with bojack and clay both acknowledging that theyre bad in moments of weakness or that they hate themselves but also never doing anything to really change)
Though the Coach was not a good person, we can appreciate that he was one of the few people who makes a positive development. It's also rewarding to see him move on from Clay in the way he did.
The Coach was actively attempting to sabotage Clay's life to try and get closer to him. He wanted Clay so badly; but in the end it was through his son that Coach comes to know who Clay is, what he has done, and how much of a mistake the Coach had made trying to lust after him. After all the effort and Clay admitting he loved him; he got to throw those feelings back into Clay's face. Putting to rest the sabotage in his life and moving on with his own. No adult in Moralton is good or perfect. They were all flawed in their own ways. The Coach was no different on how he tried his damnedest to get closer to the man he loved. But it was Orel who ripped down the veil of what these past 8 years were for.
honestly the ending for the Christmas special was so bittersweet. it was obvious that Orels family was very dysfunctional, but the fact that he was able to break that cycle gives me so much hope
@@arcticwolflover263 They really could only do it one way. We see Oral as a man who is content with his life but his parents return kinda make him more and more stupid and mean hearted up until he smartens up and tells them to fuck off
I just noticed that while Orel and Christina had a happy family together, Block and Shapey became a firefighter and a policeman respectively. Both these jobs involve helping, protecting and providing safety to people who need it, and those were all things they never experienced due to their parents' neglect
@@boomgirlbucko Who, Orel and Christina or Block and Shapey. We see Orel and Christina right there with a family, so you must be talking about the two brothers.
My friend who had severe religious trauma said this show helped her a lot. Because her life was similar to Orel and she was often oppressed by those strict Christian values by the people around her. But seeing Orel be able to grow up happy and STILL hang onto his faith purely because of his own morals and willpower made her feel less of a failure for not being “good enough” as a kid.
@SladechosenFTW She says that she does, she is just focusing on building back that relationship to something positive. More loving and less fearful. She wants to rejoin a church in the next few years too 👍
It sucks we never saw the development of Shapey and Block. All we know is that Shapey started learning to speak coherent sentences when Block moved in with them.
This series made me appreciate religion despite not being religious myself. For some people like Orel, it's all they have in their lives. It was beautiful seeing him go from someone who was doubting his faith and basically going through depression after the camping episode to realizing that he shouldn't listen to the nasty people around him and live life the way he wants and through that he got his faith back.
i agree bro. i'm an atheist but i used to be catholic/christian and the religion was a lot yk? but i'm glad they could show that orel could make good out of it!!
The problem with taking that from this show is that religion is also one of the causes of many of the problems people have in that town. The repression and warped morality that people feel the need to put up is a major source of the characters' issues.
I appreciate that despite being bad parents and bad humans, clay and bloberta still somewhat in some way cared for Orel. And I also like the detail that despite everything Orel was a good enough person to forgive his parents and love them as an adult. The picture on the wall is a good detail
They don’t care for him at all, they were just jealous that he isn’t getting affection from them and that they only care about molding Orel into a sick image of a son and never did anything good for him. Clay killed his own mother for a prank
@@dancingthief3501 bruh you missed the entire point of the show if you don’t understand that clay and bloberta still cared for Orel in one way or another despite their selfish needs and actions
@@cmaceaton5889 honestly I'm not entirely sure clay cared about orel at all, the last hunting arc and the last season kinda showed that he just literally doesn't care at all. Bloberta definitely does in her twisted way but clay is debatable at beat
I've been going through a lot of trauma as of late, growing up in an abusive family, experiences of religious abuse, and SA. I’m on my own now and still trying to learn how to get my smile back. Your comment made me cry for the first time in ages. I want to thank you.
@@junichijam5364 I'm so sorry you've endured this trauma, but I'm thrilled that you're starting your healing process. I think, like Orel, time helps you heal. It will get better. I'm glad you were able to cry ❤❤❤
@@junichijam5364 Reading your comment broke my heart to pieces, I don't know you in a personal way, but I'm deeply sorry that you went through such pain. I honestly hope that everything goes well for you in your personal life, and I hope that you'll find happiness once more in the near future. I hope 2024 is treating you better than the past years.
Clay is an unbelievably pathetic man, but I can’t help but feel really sorry for him. Hell, I even empathize with him. He hates himself, and he’s become a miserable shell of the person he was before he met Bloberta. I truly hope that one day Clay can make amends with Orel and Arthur, but it’s probably too late for him. As someone who knew a narcissist quite well, you usually can’t help them because they either don’t think there’s anything wrong with them or they just treat you badly for the sake of satisfying their egos.
I like how Orel and Christina have a happy life in the end. Their relationship was foreshadowed since season 2 and I'm happy the show ended off on a high note.
I don't like that they ended up together tbh. she is basically a girl version of him. and they looked like brother and sister.. it was so weird that they got married in the end
@@GaryCandyPrince Well the whole point of that introduction episode was that the other family was just their doppelgangers. But they did like each other and they have decent chemistry. So I have no qualms.
its actually really good to see orel with a happy life as a adult hes broke away from the toxicity of his parents,and actually became a loving father to his wife and kids im happy for orel :)
Maybe it was a direct way to show us that his wife is Christina, or a little representation to tell us that Christina didn't pass ALL the awful things that Orel had to live
it might just be because shes a woman and has softer facial featutes, and sometimes mens faces age just a little bit different ? she could also just be babyfaced
I feel like the most realistic way of explaining this is simply because the show makers are just lazy. Orel is the main character of the show and combined with them having to make a close up scene of Orel slowly becoming more older and mature, they put up more details and changes to Orel's face and head and i'm guessing they also expected for most of the viewers to focus more on adult Orel rather than Christina or their children. Because of this, they thought "lol screw it" and just changed her body, made her taller.. that's it.
"somehow, in his own bloated way, he made you. And ~that's~ honorable" "dedicated to the memory of Tom Stamatopoulos, the head of a truly loving family"
Ehh, I think the way the show ended their relationship was abrupt but still fantastic. Through the loving connections he made in his community, he was able to have a full, fulfilling life and accomplished more in the last 30 seconds of the show than Clay ever did. I don't want some melodramatic revenge and I absolutely don't think that's what the show was going for. For as dark as the 3rd season was, it showed that there's escape from even the worst upbringings, it's optimistic in a way I haven't seen other shows be able to pull off.
Even though clay is the absolute worst, I can’t help but feel my heart break at the way he says “I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you” The coach made the right choice by cutting him out of his life and moving forward, but goddamn does that part hit hard
This is the moment when Clay realized that he got what he wanted a horroble life to excuse being a horroble person, however he also realized that he lost his son's adoration and Coach's love and is stuck in unhappy marriage with him losing what mattered the most a familly and living with a bunch of strangers. At the end he might have even help regret for his actions or maybe his depression just worsened it is left up to interpretation.
The way he keeps repeating it like it's cathartic to finally admit he loves someone, he wasn't ever allowed to love growing up, hits kind of hard as a repressed gay. 💀
It was pretty big of the show writers to have Orel still reconcile his faith despite the insanely oppressive environment he grew up in. They understood that even terrible circumstances that would usually push people away from religion doesn't always do so. Somehow I doubt a modern adult swim show could carefully maneuver through this kind of take.
@Zulf85 it ran for 2 seasons after Nature. The episode that ended the series was absolutely without a doubt "Alone". Even Dino say's it was likely "the final nail in the coffin".
What I really loved about the third season was the development Orel had. After the hunting incident, he starts to realize that some people are flawed and you can’t fix them, that the world has grey areas that you can’t always clear up. But he also realizes that’s okay, he comes out the finale a different person, less naive, more mature, and it’s because of that he became the man he is at the end. A better father, a better husband, a better person. Not the way Dino may have wanted to end it, but a beautiful ending nonetheless.
Honestly, Moral Orel isn’t the kind of show that’s just dark to be dark. It’s to show the hypocrisy of so many people that most are oblivious to and using Orel as a foil to that, and by ending it in the way it did, he still remained a foil
I like this ending for Stopframe. He deserves the hurt for trying to ruin Clay's family the way he did, but he only did it out of love for Clay trying to make Clay divorce Bloberata by showing she would be unfaithful. Terrible person move so he deserves some unhappiness, but I like it shows he is ready to move on and better himself when he realizes that Clay is a terrible person.
One thing I love about that is how obsessed he was with clay to go to those lengths to finally realize how shitty clay is and how he didn’t actually care. Think it’s says something about those types of relationships you know
Stopframe isnt a bad perdón tho, It was deserving, but he was the one that dumped Clay, so he learned from his mistake, hes a good person, but hes not perfect, unlike Clay, hes justo a bad person AND both bloberata AND stop deserve better
@@emilioxd6140 He sabotaged Clay's marriage by purposely impregnating Bloberata. He helps further ruin a marriage, and knowing conceives a kid out of spite that he has no intention of raising. Seems like a bad person to me. Atleast Clay's terrible actions are typically done spur of the moment under drunken influence. Stopframe premeditated all this, but he definitely seems to become a better person later.
@@whichDude i mean, hes doing them a favor, there not a happy couple, hes not ruining a happy marrige AND family, Clay AND bloberata are just together because of social pressure, also, i bet stopframe doesnt dislike orel at all, hes not a bad person, but yes he did alot of meessed up things
The best part of the ending is how Orel grows up sad in the montage but ends up happy because like the prequel said, nobody can corrupt how pure he is.
Clay's a bastard, but ultimately, you still feel...well, not sorry, but pity for him because, he is never, EVER going to be happy. And Danielle was perhaps his last chance at being with someone that genuinely wanted him (Unlike Bloberta who just manipulated him into getting married and ruined both their lives.)
@@randomcenturion7264 2:20 It’s his face and tone of voice here that really made me feel bad. He’s pretty much begging. He’s a terrible man, but god it physically hurts to see anyone like that.
@Russell Howell bro same. Like he was a shitty person but I had to pause that scene cause you could really see how much he loved Danielle and see the desperation on his face, only to get turned down. Even sadder when you see the miserable expressions of him and bloberta in a photo at the end.
One of the things I loved about this show I've never seen anyone comment on is how Oral never becomes an atheist and always keeps his faith in God. He doesn't begin to see the flaws in others he once looked up to and see that as a reflection of his religion, but seeing that the people around him are going through the motions and act but not actually walking the walk so to say. And even begins to make the people around him better slowly, like the Reverend, and him accepting his daughter, Stephanie. Oral becomes a positive forces to those around him in part due to his belief. Its a better Catholic / Christian show than some that are actually produced for that purpose.
Probably because it doesn’t teach complete devotion and literally terrorize the audience into believing into god. It actually recognizes that maybe total and complete blind devotion to religion is a bad thing, and that maybe, just maybe, religion should be used for guidance. Not absolute law.
It doesn't blame religion or faith in God as the problem but rather points out that people are inherently flawed and no amount of prayers or faith will ever fix that if the people refuse to change.
Your comment made me want to check out the show now. I get sick of atheist rhetoric. And as interesting as the show seems I thought it would simply echo it. But maybe the show has a better mesage
@@junky802 I'd definitely check it out the first season is definitely more episodic and "comedy" orientated. And it really begins to shine in the 2nd and 3rd seasons in my opinion. That being said the show is still very critical of people who say their religious or Believers and don't follow the teaching of the region/ Bible. But if you're observant you notice oral is never really criticized or shown in a bad light by the show and always keeps his faith. It's a shame the show was cut short and we only got one special in before Oral it had real potential.
For an adultswim show that was cut short, morel orel really made me appreciate life more and the ending narration by the reverend puddy couldn't have been better because he himself grew as a character in how he reached out to his estranged daughter instead of being like the rest of the town.
I never watched this show but this ending scene just- hurts. It hurts in a thought-provoking way but seeing the father stuck in a marriage he only went to because he couldn’t accept love that wasn’t accepted… Just ouch.
This was one of the best series and one of the best endings I've ever seen. It isn't pro or anti religion like so many people think, its just about a kid who is at first blinded by faith, then loses his faith, then finally finds his way back to his faith while still maintaining his morals and integrity and not letting the toxicity surrounding him poison his beliefs and also not turning into a hypocrite like most of the people in town.
“Coach, you like my dad the way my mom likes my dad, don’t you?” “Your mom likes your dad?” I’m not gonna lie. I still don’t know whether to laugh or cry at this part since Stopframe saw what Orel didn’t.
I didn't pay attention to the photos on the wall behind Orel's family but they are pretty meaningful. He has a cross showing he kept his faith. He kept a photo of his parents but they both look miserable showing that they stayed miserable. He has photos of his brothers as a firefighter and a cop both are smiling so Orel kept them in his life and they grew up to be decent people.
Sad thing is Coach Stopframe would have been willing to do anything to win Clay's love right before clay broke his heart. He was near obsessed with clay for who knows why. While I'm sad Stopframe didn't get a happy ending, at least he realized he can do a lot better than clay.
Clay is really attractive from a purely skin deep standpoint, he's a moderately wealthy, handsome and charming man, with a family, and a high position job. Since Clay cares about appearances there is NO WAY Stopframe would have known about his TRUE CHARACTER until he spent time with Orel. All this time Stopframe has been fed lies by Clay about who he really is, this episode in particular reinforces exactly that. When Clay is bragging about how he slayed a bear he presents it as a feat to show off to Stopframe leaving out the part where he shoots Orel with intent to harm. It isn't until Stopframe speaks with Orel that the mask Clay built up starts to slip, he finds out the truth that Clay shot his son and if that alone wasn't appalling enough Orel asks him a question that pulls at his heartstrings "What do you think is so honorable about my dad." Stopframe can't answer until he realizes the truth there is NOTHING, the one good thing to come out of Clay is the very son he abused and nearly destroyed. If the series would have continued it's stated Clay would end up truly alone but, I would like to see him try to battle his addiction after it destroys him since he and Bloberta are in a photo frame in Orel's house. There's a good chance that as a lonely old man having suffered the repercussions of what he's done he either kills himself, is in intense rehab, or stuck in a nursing home with no one visiting, either way Clay will get the hell he deserves and as gratifying as that sounds It's also kind of just sad.
@@cgecko3 That's why I'm still a smidge salty the show wasn't allowed to wrap up on their own terms. If they had been allowed two more seasons, Orel would have reunited with his grandfather, Bloberta would have gotten the relationship that finally makes her happy and fulfilled when she hooks up with officer papermouth, and clay would have died all alone.
Imma stop you right there. If you saw Help, you'd know that Bloberta is way, _way_ less worse than Clay. She was just desperate to get married when all her friends were, and she couldn't find anyone to marry. Bloberta just wanted to get married and sing. She may be jaded to her children's needs and a bit apathetic, but that's after decades of living with Clay, we don't even get to see them living together, but we do get to see Clay's childhood- and that shows that he's _always_ been like that. The whole point in Help where it follows up on Nature pt. 2, and shows Bloberta crying after she slams the door on oral after shedding that tiny bit of truth about his father, "that's just his true nature", is showing that she hates her life, she hates the lies, pretending to be happy, caring for a bastard son, being driven to have a relationship with Danielle to try and make Clay jealous, and his blasé response to his second child having blonde hair, having to just be a stay at home mom when she has a beautiful voice. She's way, way, not worse than Clay. She's what happens when your apathy is dialed up to 11/10 after dealing with a manipulative sociopath(s, I'm not gonna discount her parents and siblings, or the rest of Moralton- save a few exceptions, either) for decades. When Clay cries, after Danielle breaks up with him, it's kinda hard to say whether it's because he was genuinely in love with Danielle, or if it was because he was losing his last confidant. Dino's said that Clay was going to lose the election to Censordall, so that scene was probably supposed to mark the beginning of Clay's fall. I'd guess there probably would have been an episode where he works for a bunch of the Moralton citizens before his emotions and actions led to him being ostracized and homeless.
@@killertrip10 I'm not defending Clay but come on! Bloberta isn't any better than Clay, besides that he's physically and emotionally abusive towards his son. You can empathize with her all you want, but I'm not gonna
For most kids who come from dysfunctional/abusive religious families, especially “Christian” ones, it’s almost guaranteed they’ll shy away from the faith, but Orel not only ended up as a loving father and husband, but actually became the true Christian he strives to be as a Kid, is truly heartwarming.
As messed up as Stopframe is him telling Orel that the one good thing his dad ever did was make him is the sweetest thing and honestly what a kid like that would need to hear.
So I kind of met a few people like Clay. One of them blamed others for their problems and abused the people who loved them. The other built up a poison inside of them to protect themselves from being hurt, but that poison ended up hurting others; when Clay speaks to Coach, I think of them speaking to me. And it just feels a little bit better
Scott Adsit's performance on the last dialogue (and the whole series, for what is worth) is phenomenal, he made Clay a memorable antagonist through his expressions. You can almost feel bad for the bastard.
I think the daughter having brown hair is symbolically important I think it's to show Orel and Christina are happy together and their children are full siblings and not half-siblings like Orel and Shapey are because there was no adultery
I love how the ending reminds us that this show is NOT anti-Christian. It’s against Christianity gone wrong through the dark side of human nature. The fact that Orel escaped a dark, twisted, authoritarian family (and yet still loves them in the end as evidenced by having their photo on his wall!) is kinda beautiful.
ik everyone’s talking about orel breaking the cycle of abuse but the clay and danielle scene is what really breaks me i’m not sure what it is other than the sadness and desperation in clays voice (i forget his name but the voice actor for clay is fucking awesome) and danielle finally moving on its just gets me every time
@@a.chavez5808 I can't help but feel if they were finished, they'd be better. So maybe perfect isn't the best word. But then again, I don't think perfect is 'perfect', iffin's you will.
What kills me is how this is the only time Clay ever hugs and says he loves Orel, and its the most blatant excuse for saying he loves his affair partner anyone could come up with. No wonder Orel gave up on him after this: it wasnt just he couldnt respect his father, but that his father never loved him.
Perfect ending they could have achieved with what was given. And such a complex and deep message. Perhaps some of us are doomed. Perhaps the darkness in others can’t be cured. Perhaps we can never find true salvation. Perhaps. But perhaps there is hope. And even in a godless world devoid of such things as certainty, morality or even compassion the only logical course of action is to take a chance. Have a little faith. A little hope. You never know what the future will bring.
Apparently they had a 5 season redemption arc planned for Clay, but had to cut it when the show was cancelled. Personally, I think this is a better ending. Some people dig themselves into such a deep hole that they can no longer see the sky, and all they have left to do is keep digging.
That desperate repetition of 'I love you' will never cease to get me, along with how unconvinced Daniel is. Because he knows that it doesn't matter if he means those words or not. Either way... It's too late.
I love the implication of Orel's ending... and how much Coach Stopframe really did, not only exposed Clay for the rotten person he is but in a way actually saved Orel. Within the short amount of time they spent together Orel was able to experience a real unconditional love, and from a man who pretty much is one of the most morally flawed characters. But I think that's beauty of it while we saw Clay try to lie to himself that he's in a loving, caring and has a great life we the audience know that he's in denial. At his core he only cares about himself and that's why when he's faced with one of his most greatest denials his affair coach he reveals his true nature. Denying and obviously lying while everyone room knows the truth... But for Coach he faces the truth that the man he so dangerously desired is toxic and not good for him and cuts the chain himself. Which presents Orel two-sides it's either he can live and denial like his father - be a coward, and continue to make mistakes and justify them or be like Coach be accountable - accept your flaws and times you've made mistakes, take them and be better because of them. I think that Christmas Orel was a wake up call to him and grew up to be a better man and more importantly a better father.
Amazing how one kid is able to break the cycle of dysfunctional families that’s been going on for god know how long. Kinda brings a sense of hope to the audience, right?
This ending hit so hard. Moral Orel is the story of essentially Orel and his father. Clay has been sleepwalking through parenting and living for the last 12 years and as Orel grows and starts asking questions and becoming more complicated, it reminds clay of himself and awakens his own emotions and issues. He tries to suppress Orel, to guide Orel, to beat him back into being convenient or just becoming a copy of himself, but Orel continues showing clay just how miserable and self-loathing he is. To me, this scene is the moment where Orel and Clay fully split, Clay fully devolves into being empty and emotionless while Orel determines he won't allow himself to be manipulated and turned into his father. It's a beautiful, heart tending moment
After growing up with a dysfunctional abusive family, Orel stuck to his faith of God and not by his dad's words, they grow up he moved out of the house, became a police officer to protect Morelton, met the love of his life from a previous family he was not allowed to see, they married they had two beautiful children, and live happily ever after. This is by far the most beautiful ending to the series I've ever seen.
People complain that Homer Simpson and Randy Marsh aren’t good fathers, but they are decent, and compared to Clay, they are both Saints, even Peter Griffin is better than Clay.
The fact that Orel came from a family that couldn’t be more broken and dysfunctional yet still managed to make a happy family for himself is a surprisingly optimistic note to end this series on.
Orel is the Miracle of Moralton “Dear Orel, always remember son, even though you are the perfect candidate for brainwashing in this town, you are also too pure and good hearted to be corrupted.” Love Grandpa
Orel is such a sweet young man, even though his parents absolutely hated each other, he still loved them and treated them as if they were meant for each other and wanted Orel in their lives. I wish this show potentially continues at some point in time, this and bojack horsemen are my two favourite shows of all Time and I ASPIRE to make something as great as both of those one day.
I had not realized that Orel's wife is Christina, it is good to know that in the end they were both able to be together and start a family and become better parents
A couple of other things that are easy to miss. On the wall you can see pictures of Block and Shapey. Showing one's become a cop and the other a firefighter. Also, Orel isn't wearing a belt. Meaning he's not beating his children.
Nah, someone did. It's just the remnants of my love for ytp's. I can't hear a line and not think about a similar delivery. Least it's not as cringey as my borderlands video.
Moral Orel is the only show I can think of that didn't just use it's "adult show" categorization for cheap and crass jokes, but also used it to explore mature and disturbing real life issues, and is one of the shows in my very small personal list that tries to show serious issues or subject matter and doesn't come off as preachy or disingenuous.
This show taught me it took me awhile to realize this you cannot change the family he was born into you cannot change the past you have to accept it and you have to move on it shows that he saw his family for what they was, saw his mom and dad for who they was he was no longer blinded by them just because they was his parents that's the sad reality of growing up some of us see the true being of our parents. But he did not choose toxicity and sadness that goes to show your past do not define your future you are responsible for your happiness no one else.
If there is one good thing that came from Clay and Bloberta’s marriage, it’s that Orel was able to become better than both his parents just by thinking about their relationship and how they treated him.
Damn this episode always makes me think. I know this might be a bit of a controversial opinion but honestly one of the best things you can do to achieve a happy, loving family in the future is to work on loving yourself before you get married and/or REALLY know the person you are planning to marry before you tie the knot with them. As shown in the series, Bloberta and Clay are dysfunctional because of more than one reason, but the biggest reason was probably because Bloberta wanted to marry to Clay simply because she wanted to get married, didn't matter who. And assuming Orel married Christina, who he has known since childhood, you can see a big difference between his future family and his childhood family. Idk... I'm not an expert at these things, it's just a trend I've noticed in unhappy married couples that I've experienced in the past. However, if anyone has a differing opinion I'd be happy to discuss it in the replies.
I love how optimistic this ending is, Orel could have grown up to be like someone cynical and bitter,over the border evil, or some drunk comic who talks big shit but is just a broken little wuss. but he ended up being an honest guy with a loving family who appears to still be a good man.
I love that this show is honest about the fact that people don’t always get better, and yet it still delivers a happy ending. Clay and Bloberta never change, they’d rather remain in the miserable cycle they know than face themselves in order to grow. But that doesn’t have to be how Orel’s story goes, and it isn’t! He’s so much stronger than his parents, he builds a loving family with Christina even after their families tried to keep them apart, and we can only assume his positive influence is what helps Block & Shapey overcome their upbringing as well.
i like how kinda like in the nature episode, the red glow from the fire grows on clays face as he goes on and on, well, i know it was from him getting near the fire so it might not have been intentional, but i like to imagine that it was.
Damn near everything in Nature was intentional. The flies landing on Clay, the Stork, the biblical symbol of kindness, perching near Orel, Orel having green and blue in his background, symbols of tranquility, Clay having red, black, and orange, while he's eating man's best friend. Probably one of the episodes they spent the longest on, is my guess.
The third season of the show is probably one of the best things ever to be on TV, and played it perfectly. The show spent the first two seasons making you laugh at all the various characters in town for their faults and short comings, and then in season three it shows you the reason those characters acted the way they did stemmed from the severe trauma they suffered in their life that stunted and hampered them. Showing the origins of their behavior made you the viewer feel dirty and disgusting and ashamed of yourself for every having laughed at these characters misfortunes for two entire seasons. Agnes Sculptham, Nurse Bendy, Doughy... all characters you laughed at and then when you realize their story, their FULL story and the pain they go through you feel like shit. And i love it. "I Think You Should Leave Now" did a similar thing with their "Ghost Tour" sketch and i highly recommend people watch that as well.
I love what the coach says about orel, even though true his dad isn't an honorable man, or even a decent man, "your dad made you, and I think that's honorable!"
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Let's be honest here. Orel despite being a former crack addict and a basic psychopath still somehow turned out so much better then his parents.
Orel is Eric Cartman if he leaned towards chaotic good instead of chaotic evil
Orel isn't even close to a psychopath he is capable of empathy and emotions, two of the best moments of this is when he began to cry when Clay was spilling his guts in nature part 1 because he genuinely felt bad for him and in the lost episode abstinence when he tries to cheer up Doughy after a very depressing and real moment between the two. (Since the second example isn't officially canon to the mainline story here's another example, when he gives Shapey and Blocky his stop motion set.) Orel may struggle at times with empathy but he is very much capable of it.
Even more insane he did all that at the age of 12
Totally, and ironically he received a better guidance from a "home-wrecker".
@@cgecko3yeah I’d say it’s more innocence than psychopathy since the things he did in the beginning of the show he didn’t know it was wrong.
the fact that Orel broke the abuse cycle and retained his faith brought me to tears. it would've been so easy for him to turn atheist, or turn out like his dad, but he DIDN'T.
Orel has a level of faith and willpower that is astounding for a boy his age.
That makes me so happy too
I even agree as an atheist. Not every atheist becomes one due to bad experiences with religion. Not every religious person who had bad experiences with religion becomes an atheist. So Orel staying religious, but marrying Christine (which can be interpreted as marrying outside his denomination) and seemingly finding a version of Christianity he feels comfortable with is refreshing. It's one of the more "mundane" outcomes that I feel media very rarely discusses and I enjoy seeing it.
that’s the point the series was making. people use bojack horseman to justify being a bad person due to generational trauma, that the trauma makes it so it isnt your fault. morel orel proves that it’s you who has the power to break that cycle, and falling into it is also your choice in a way. (like with bojack and clay both acknowledging that theyre bad in moments of weakness or that they hate themselves but also never doing anything to really change)
Cat clat
Coach is right. Its too Late for clay, as a father and a friend.
Oh also as a husband
And lover
And Mayor
A Christian.
@@whyme3772 anyways
Though the Coach was not a good person, we can appreciate that he was one of the few people who makes a positive development. It's also rewarding to see him move on from Clay in the way he did.
yeahh clay was so toxic
@@joshuagraham2843 "Was" or "is"?
The Coach was actively attempting to sabotage Clay's life to try and get closer to him. He wanted Clay so badly; but in the end it was through his son that Coach comes to know who Clay is, what he has done, and how much of a mistake the Coach had made trying to lust after him. After all the effort and Clay admitting he loved him; he got to throw those feelings back into Clay's face. Putting to rest the sabotage in his life and moving on with his own.
No adult in Moralton is good or perfect. They were all flawed in their own ways. The Coach was no different on how he tried his damnedest to get closer to the man he loved. But it was Orel who ripped down the veil of what these past 8 years were for.
@@Polomance862 yes but you do gotta admit Coach did end up being a positive person in Morels life.
I think Orel ended up being a positive person in Stopframe's life
honestly the ending for the Christmas special was so bittersweet. it was obvious that Orels family was very dysfunctional, but the fact that he was able to break that cycle gives me so much hope
i hope the creators one day make a series about orel as a adult it would be interesting to see what his life is like grown up
@@arcticwolflover263 They really could only do it one way. We see Oral as a man who is content with his life but his parents return kinda make him more and more stupid and mean hearted up until he smartens up and tells them to fuck off
@@arcticwolflover263 More than a full series, I think it would be best to just make a special episode
@@lorenzocassaro3054 agreed
Cat clay
I just noticed that while Orel and Christina had a happy family together, Block and Shapey became a firefighter and a policeman respectively. Both these jobs involve helping, protecting and providing safety to people who need it, and those were all things they never experienced due to their parents' neglect
Orel probably became an animator or stop motion guy
And I think it's implied that they got married.
@@boomgirlbucko Who, Orel and Christina or Block and Shapey. We see Orel and Christina right there with a family, so you must be talking about the two brothers.
@@GrayD_Fox Yeah
@@boomgirlbucko Why? XD
My friend who had severe religious trauma said this show helped her a lot. Because her life was similar to Orel and she was often oppressed by those strict Christian values by the people around her. But seeing Orel be able to grow up happy and STILL hang onto his faith purely because of his own morals and willpower made her feel less of a failure for not being “good enough” as a kid.
that’s beautiful
@SladechosanFTW yes did not read the whole thing.
@SladechosenFTW She says that she does, she is just focusing on building back that relationship to something positive. More loving and less fearful.
She wants to rejoin a church in the next few years too 👍
And then there's the others side who pimp out and drug atheists. Secularism is way worse
Nah she an idiot
I’m happy Orel gets a happy ending.
This show was perfect
SAME just goes to show he never lost faith
Yes. I'm also glad he grew up to be nothing like his terrible Father.
When orel give his film set to shapey and block i nearly cried
great ending
It sucks we never saw the development of Shapey and Block. All we know is that Shapey started learning to speak coherent sentences when Block moved in with them.
Well maybe that's just it. Shape needed someone who was like him
shapey and block became a fire fighter and a police officer so I think they calmed down and good for them.
they are on orels wall at the end
@@ALunarLight I never noticed until today! I'm happy now thank you
Shapey Puppington and Block Puppington
"sometimes, my heart feels like my tummy when it's hungry"
This series made me appreciate religion despite not being religious myself. For some people like Orel, it's all they have in their lives. It was beautiful seeing him go from someone who was doubting his faith and basically going through depression after the camping episode to realizing that he shouldn't listen to the nasty people around him and live life the way he wants and through that he got his faith back.
i agree bro. i'm an atheist but i used to be catholic/christian and the religion was a lot yk? but i'm glad they could show that orel could make good out of it!!
No, religion is overall not a good thing for humanity.
Oh? And what philosophy or walk of life do you follow?
The problem with taking that from this show is that religion is also one of the causes of many of the problems people have in that town. The repression and warped morality that people feel the need to put up is a major source of the characters' issues.
@@JackgarPrime do you like "Pollyanna" or "Book of Thel"?
I appreciate that despite being bad parents and bad humans, clay and bloberta still somewhat in some way cared for Orel. And I also like the detail that despite everything Orel was a good enough person to forgive his parents and love them as an adult. The picture on the wall is a good detail
They don’t care for him at all, they were just jealous that he isn’t getting affection from them and that they only care about molding Orel into a sick image of a son and never did anything good for him. Clay killed his own mother for a prank
@@dancingthief3501 bruh you missed the entire point of the show if you don’t understand that clay and bloberta still cared for Orel in one way or another despite their selfish needs and actions
@@cmaceaton5889 I would say a very toxic way of caring, but caring nonetheless
I hope Orel doesn’t have a study where he disciplines his kids
@@cmaceaton5889 honestly I'm not entirely sure clay cared about orel at all, the last hunting arc and the last season kinda showed that he just literally doesn't care at all. Bloberta definitely does in her twisted way but clay is debatable at beat
I love the ending because as Orel shifts into an adult, you can see him starting to smile and you can see him healing over the years.
I've been going through a lot of trauma as of late, growing up in an abusive family, experiences of religious abuse, and SA.
I’m on my own now and still trying to learn how to get my smile back.
Your comment made me cry for the first time in ages.
I want to thank you.
@@junichijam5364 I'm so sorry you've endured this trauma, but I'm thrilled that you're starting your healing process. I think, like Orel, time helps you heal. It will get better. I'm glad you were able to cry ❤❤❤
@@junichijam5364 5 months mate but whatever, sorry you had to go through all that. Hope you've managed to get heal at least somewhat
@@junichijam5364 Reading your comment broke my heart to pieces, I don't know you in a personal way, but I'm deeply sorry that you went through such pain.
I honestly hope that everything goes well for you in your personal life, and I hope that you'll find happiness once more in the near future.
I hope 2024 is treating you better than the past years.
@@junichijam5364I hope you recover and find peace and have a happy life
clay’s (aka orel’s dad) voice actor also happens to voice baymax from big hero six
That is a fun fact! Talk about polarizing roles!
Sounds like rigby from regular show too
@@brandonloaiza8595 No that's Reverand Putty voice actor he was also played Doc ock in the spider man ps4 game
WHAT????
Orel is played by Carolyn Lawrence, the voice of Sandy Cheeks and Cindy Vortex
I love how his smile slowly grows as he grows older and further apart from his troubled family and gains the love, and happiness of making his own.
I cried when Clay was talking to Coach, the way his lines were delivered made me so emotional
Clay is an unbelievably pathetic man, but I can’t help but feel really sorry for him. Hell, I even empathize with him. He hates himself, and he’s become a miserable shell of the person he was before he met Bloberta. I truly hope that one day Clay can make amends with Orel and Arthur, but it’s probably too late for him. As someone who knew a narcissist quite well, you usually can’t help them because they either don’t think there’s anything wrong with them or they just treat you badly for the sake of satisfying their egos.
@@cashthecurator666yeah. You’re absolutely right
I like how Orel and Christina have a happy life in the end. Their relationship was foreshadowed since season 2 and I'm happy the show ended off on a high note.
I don't like that they ended up together tbh. she is basically a girl version of him. and they looked like brother and sister.. it was so weird that they got married in the end
Cool profile pic.
@@killertrip10 thanks
@@GaryCandyPrince Well the whole point of that introduction episode was that the other family was just their doppelgangers. But they did like each other and they have decent chemistry. So I have no qualms.
Rewatching it again and holy damn I just realized the Reverend at the end narrating is the voice of Rigby from Regular Show
Good ear!
@@killertrip10 Which is amazing but sad at the same time since both shows have ended
Wow
He also in fallout 4
oh my god!!!!! ITS RIGBY!!!!!!
its actually really good to see orel with a happy life as a adult hes broke away from the toxicity of his parents,and actually became a loving father to his wife and kids im happy for orel :)
Would you say any of the Adults had character arks? Definitely the priest but besides him
@@zonebro6205 I think they were definitely starting the arc.
If they had more seasons, the we would've gotten some banger stories.
Cat clay
yeah, he deserves this hapiness
1:08 Clay choose that song, because its the only Christmas song he remembers his family singing happily together in a previous episode.
I like how Orel still kept pictures of his family. Showing he never became bitter or resentful towards them in the end
It’s funny how Orel has aged, but Christina looks exactly the same.
Yeah. Orel’s head is more oval-shaped now as opposed to his circular head as a kid, and his hair’s slightly longer. Christina is just taller…
Maybe it was a direct way to show us that his wife is Christina, or a little representation to tell us that Christina didn't pass ALL the awful things that Orel had to live
@@victoriacastillo3978 Great theory.
it might just be because shes a woman and has softer facial featutes, and sometimes mens faces age just a little bit different ? she could also just be babyfaced
I feel like the most realistic way of explaining this is simply because the show makers are just lazy. Orel is the main character of the show and combined with them having to make a close up scene of Orel slowly becoming more older and mature, they put up more details and changes to Orel's face and head and i'm guessing they also expected for most of the viewers to focus more on adult Orel rather than Christina or their children. Because of this, they thought "lol screw it" and just changed her body, made her taller.. that's it.
one thing Orel should have said at least once to his dad before the show was canceled. "Your a Bad Father."
"somehow, in his own bloated way, he made you. And ~that's~ honorable"
"dedicated to the memory of Tom Stamatopoulos, the head of a truly loving family"
Ehh, I think the way the show ended their relationship was abrupt but still fantastic. Through the loving connections he made in his community, he was able to have a full, fulfilling life and accomplished more in the last 30 seconds of the show than Clay ever did.
I don't want some melodramatic revenge and I absolutely don't think that's what the show was going for. For as dark as the 3rd season was, it showed that there's escape from even the worst upbringings, it's optimistic in a way I haven't seen other shows be able to pull off.
well he did say “i hate you” in nature pt 2
Or at the very least Orel should have flipped him off.🖕
did I say cancelled I mean ended.
Even though clay is the absolute worst, I can’t help but feel my heart break at the way he says “I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you” The coach made the right choice by cutting him out of his life and moving forward, but goddamn does that part hit hard
This is the moment when Clay realized that he got what he wanted a horroble life to excuse being a horroble person, however he also realized that he lost his son's adoration and Coach's love and is stuck in unhappy marriage with him losing what mattered the most a familly and living with a bunch of strangers. At the end he might have even help regret for his actions or maybe his depression just worsened it is left up to interpretation.
The way he keeps repeating it like it's cathartic to finally admit he loves someone, he wasn't ever allowed to love growing up, hits kind of hard as a repressed gay. 💀
@@yuarentlucky yeah, I feel that too. I was in a Christian cult for a lot of my childhood, and now I’m a lesbian and I totally get that feeling
I like to imagine given how a picture of him is in Orel’s house all those years later, he got help. Although that is admittedly hopeful thinking.
It was pretty big of the show writers to have Orel still reconcile his faith despite the insanely oppressive environment he grew up in. They understood that even terrible circumstances that would usually push people away from religion doesn't always do so.
Somehow I doubt a modern adult swim show could carefully maneuver through this kind of take.
Very true deatil
The church was Orel's comfort place and he sought safety and happiness in Christianity so it would make sense that he kept his faith
No show on any series is as nuanced a look into human nature as moral orel
Tbh, an adult swim of the time clearly couldn't based on how quickly they cancelled the show after Nature dropped 💀💀💀
@Zulf85 it ran for 2 seasons after Nature. The episode that ended the series was absolutely without a doubt "Alone".
Even Dino say's it was likely "the final nail in the coffin".
"Somehow, in his own blundering way, your father made you. And that's honorable."
Coach Stopframe being the mouthpiece for the entire audience
What I really loved about the third season was the development Orel had. After the hunting incident, he starts to realize that some people are flawed and you can’t fix them, that the world has grey areas that you can’t always clear up. But he also realizes that’s okay, he comes out the finale a different person, less naive, more mature, and it’s because of that he became the man he is at the end. A better father, a better husband, a better person. Not the way Dino may have wanted to end it, but a beautiful ending nonetheless.
Honestly, Moral Orel isn’t the kind of show that’s just dark to be dark. It’s to show the hypocrisy of so many people that most are oblivious to and using Orel as a foil to that, and by ending it in the way it did, he still remained a foil
@@stablekat5011 I disagree, I think Orel really showed signs of changing at the end.
I love how he tells Orel that he had fun and not Clay
Same, it hit different. I feel like him doing that gave really good closure and that he’s over his obsession with Clay
I feel like Bloberta's enthusiasm for going singing goes under the radar, she loves singing that much she would tolerate Clay for it
I like this ending for Stopframe. He deserves the hurt for trying to ruin Clay's family the way he did, but he only did it out of love for Clay trying to make Clay divorce Bloberata by showing she would be unfaithful. Terrible person move so he deserves some unhappiness, but I like it shows he is ready to move on and better himself when he realizes that Clay is a terrible person.
One thing I love about that is how obsessed he was with clay to go to those lengths to finally realize how shitty clay is and how he didn’t actually care. Think it’s says something about those types of relationships you know
Stopframe isnt a bad perdón tho, It was deserving, but he was the one that dumped Clay, so he learned from his mistake, hes a good person, but hes not perfect, unlike Clay, hes justo a bad person AND both bloberata AND stop deserve better
@@emilioxd6140 He sabotaged Clay's marriage by purposely impregnating Bloberata. He helps further ruin a marriage, and knowing conceives a kid out of spite that he has no intention of raising. Seems like a bad person to me. Atleast Clay's terrible actions are typically done spur of the moment under drunken influence. Stopframe premeditated all this, but he definitely seems to become a better person later.
@@whichDude i mean, hes doing them a favor, there not a happy couple, hes not ruining a happy marrige AND family, Clay AND bloberata are just together because of social pressure, also, i bet stopframe doesnt dislike orel at all, hes not a bad person, but yes he did alot of meessed up things
@@emilioxd6140 Having a bastard child and forcing someone else to raise them is not doing anyone any favors.
The best part of the ending is how Orel grows up sad in the montage but ends up happy because like the prequel said, nobody can corrupt how pure he is.
when coach rejected clay, i still felt bad for him. i felt bad for clay. i don’t know why i felt bad for such an awful human being.
Clay's a bastard, but ultimately, you still feel...well, not sorry, but pity for him because, he is never, EVER going to be happy. And Danielle was perhaps his last chance at being with someone that genuinely wanted him (Unlike Bloberta who just manipulated him into getting married and ruined both their lives.)
@@randomcenturion7264 2:20 It’s his face and tone of voice here that really made me feel bad. He’s pretty much begging. He’s a terrible man, but god it physically hurts to see anyone like that.
@Russell Howell bro same. Like he was a shitty person but I had to pause that scene cause you could really see how much he loved Danielle and see the desperation on his face, only to get turned down. Even sadder when you see the miserable expressions of him and bloberta in a photo at the end.
clay is made of clay not a human
Evil isn't born, it's made
One of the things I loved about this show I've never seen anyone comment on is how Oral never becomes an atheist and always keeps his faith in God.
He doesn't begin to see the flaws in others he once looked up to and see that as a reflection of his religion, but seeing that the people around him are going through the motions and act but not actually walking the walk so to say.
And even begins to make the people around him better slowly, like the Reverend, and him accepting his daughter, Stephanie. Oral becomes a positive forces to those around him in part due to his belief. Its a better Catholic / Christian show than some that are actually produced for that purpose.
Probably because it doesn’t teach complete devotion and literally terrorize the audience into believing into god.
It actually recognizes that maybe total and complete blind devotion to religion is a bad thing, and that maybe, just maybe, religion should be used for guidance. Not absolute law.
It doesn't blame religion or faith in God as the problem but rather points out that people are inherently flawed and no amount of prayers or faith will ever fix that if the people refuse to change.
Your comment made me want to check out the show now.
I get sick of atheist rhetoric. And as interesting as the show seems I thought it would simply echo it. But maybe the show has a better mesage
@@junky802 I'd definitely check it out the first season is definitely more episodic and "comedy" orientated. And it really begins to shine in the 2nd and 3rd seasons in my opinion.
That being said the show is still very critical of people who say their religious or Believers and don't follow the teaching of the region/ Bible. But if you're observant you notice oral is never really criticized or shown in a bad light by the show and always keeps his faith.
It's a shame the show was cut short and we only got one special in before Oral it had real potential.
*protestant
Even in the end, Clay is a heartless ass to Orel
yea Coach is right, it is too late for clay, as a father and a Lover
For an adultswim show that was cut short, morel orel really made me appreciate life more and the ending narration by the reverend puddy couldn't have been better because he himself grew as a character in how he reached out to his estranged daughter instead of being like the rest of the town.
I never watched this show but this ending scene just- hurts. It hurts in a thought-provoking way but seeing the father stuck in a marriage he only went to because he couldn’t accept love that wasn’t accepted… Just ouch.
If you still haven't seen the show, you can watch the whole series here, on RUclips.
This comment hit close to home ….
This was one of the best series and one of the best endings I've ever seen. It isn't pro or anti religion like so many people think, its just about a kid who is at first blinded by faith, then loses his faith, then finally finds his way back to his faith while still maintaining his morals and integrity and not letting the toxicity surrounding him poison his beliefs and also not turning into a hypocrite like most of the people in town.
-You like my dad the way my mom likes my dad, don't you?
-Your mom likes your dad? 😄
“Coach, you like my dad the way my mom likes my dad, don’t you?”
“Your mom likes your dad?”
I’m not gonna lie. I still don’t know whether to laugh or cry at this part since Stopframe saw what Orel didn’t.
I mean he was there and it caused Shapey to exist. ; )
Yeah, better way to phrase it would've been "You like my dad the way my mom is supposed to like my dad, don't you?
I didn't pay attention to the photos on the wall behind Orel's family but they are pretty meaningful. He has a cross showing he kept his faith. He kept a photo of his parents but they both look miserable showing that they stayed miserable. He has photos of his brothers as a firefighter and a cop both are smiling so Orel kept them in his life and they grew up to be decent people.
Sad thing is Coach Stopframe would have been willing to do anything to win Clay's love right before clay broke his heart. He was near obsessed with clay for who knows why. While I'm sad Stopframe didn't get a happy ending, at least he realized he can do a lot better than clay.
Clay is really attractive from a purely skin deep standpoint, he's a moderately wealthy, handsome and charming man, with a family, and a high position job. Since Clay cares about appearances there is NO WAY Stopframe would have known about his TRUE CHARACTER until he spent time with Orel. All this time Stopframe has been fed lies by Clay about who he really is, this episode in particular reinforces exactly that. When Clay is bragging about how he slayed a bear he presents it as a feat to show off to Stopframe leaving out the part where he shoots Orel with intent to harm. It isn't until Stopframe speaks with Orel that the mask Clay built up starts to slip, he finds out the truth that Clay shot his son and if that alone wasn't appalling enough Orel asks him a question that pulls at his heartstrings "What do you think is so honorable about my dad." Stopframe can't answer until he realizes the truth there is NOTHING, the one good thing to come out of Clay is the very son he abused and nearly destroyed. If the series would have continued it's stated Clay would end up truly alone but, I would like to see him try to battle his addiction after it destroys him since he and Bloberta are in a photo frame in Orel's house. There's a good chance that as a lonely old man having suffered the repercussions of what he's done he either kills himself, is in intense rehab, or stuck in a nursing home with no one visiting, either way Clay will get the hell he deserves and as gratifying as that sounds It's also kind of just sad.
@@cgecko3 That's why I'm still a smidge salty the show wasn't allowed to wrap up on their own terms. If they had been allowed two more seasons, Orel would have reunited with his grandfather, Bloberta would have gotten the relationship that finally makes her happy and fulfilled when she hooks up with officer papermouth, and clay would have died all alone.
@@tartlynerdy i dont think Bloberta deserves a happy ending, considering she's just as worst as Clay
Imma stop you right there. If you saw Help, you'd know that Bloberta is way, _way_ less worse than Clay. She was just desperate to get married when all her friends were, and she couldn't find anyone to marry. Bloberta just wanted to get married and sing. She may be jaded to her children's needs and a bit apathetic, but that's after decades of living with Clay, we don't even get to see them living together, but we do get to see Clay's childhood- and that shows that he's _always_ been like that.
The whole point in Help where it follows up on Nature pt. 2, and shows Bloberta crying after she slams the door on oral after shedding that tiny bit of truth about his father, "that's just his true nature", is showing that she hates her life, she hates the lies, pretending to be happy, caring for a bastard son, being driven to have a relationship with Danielle to try and make Clay jealous, and his blasé response to his second child having blonde hair, having to just be a stay at home mom when she has a beautiful voice. She's way, way, not worse than Clay. She's what happens when your apathy is dialed up to 11/10 after dealing with a manipulative sociopath(s, I'm not gonna discount her parents and siblings, or the rest of Moralton- save a few exceptions, either) for decades.
When Clay cries, after Danielle breaks up with him, it's kinda hard to say whether it's because he was genuinely in love with Danielle, or if it was because he was losing his last confidant. Dino's said that Clay was going to lose the election to Censordall, so that scene was probably supposed to mark the beginning of Clay's fall. I'd guess there probably would have been an episode where he works for a bunch of the Moralton citizens before his emotions and actions led to him being ostracized and homeless.
@@killertrip10 I'm not defending Clay but come on! Bloberta isn't any better than Clay, besides that he's physically and emotionally abusive towards his son. You can empathize with her all you want, but I'm not gonna
For most kids who come from dysfunctional/abusive religious families, especially “Christian” ones, it’s almost guaranteed they’ll shy away from the faith, but Orel not only ended up as a loving father and husband, but actually became the true Christian he strives to be as a Kid, is truly heartwarming.
As messed up as Stopframe is him telling Orel that the one good thing his dad ever did was make him is the sweetest thing and honestly what a kid like that would need to hear.
So I kind of met a few people like Clay. One of them blamed others for their problems and abused the people who loved them. The other built up a poison inside of them to protect themselves from being hurt, but that poison ended up hurting others; when Clay speaks to Coach, I think of them speaking to me. And it just feels a little bit better
The ending of Orel giving his stop motion equipment to Block and Shapey is beyond wholesome
Scott Adsit's performance on the last dialogue (and the whole series, for what is worth) is phenomenal, he made Clay a memorable antagonist through his expressions. You can almost feel bad for the bastard.
I think the daughter having brown hair is symbolically important I think it's to show Orel and Christina are happy together and their children are full siblings and not half-siblings like Orel and Shapey are because there was no adultery
Damn did orel deserve this. Kid went through an awful lot
I like that final stop motion scene. Oral accepts Blocky as his brother and wraps a gift for his little brothers
I love that Orel’s son has the same design as Orel’s lucky shirt in “Nature”
I love how the ending reminds us that this show is NOT anti-Christian. It’s against Christianity gone wrong through the dark side of human nature. The fact that Orel escaped a dark, twisted, authoritarian family (and yet still loves them in the end as evidenced by having their photo on his wall!) is kinda beautiful.
ik everyone’s talking about orel breaking the cycle of abuse but the clay and danielle scene is what really breaks me
i’m not sure what it is other than the sadness and desperation in clays voice (i forget his name but the voice actor for clay is fucking awesome) and danielle finally moving on its just
gets me every time
Clay's VA is Scott Adsit (same guy who was in 30 Rock, Frankenhole and Big Hero 6) who's also a writer and producer for this show.
This low key a perfect show
It really is.. an what ever key ya want
Except that it wasn't completely finished
Neither was Metalocalypse. Doesn't mean it wasn't perfect, either.
@@killertrip10 haven't watched that yet but then again it's just an opinion
@@a.chavez5808 I can't help but feel if they were finished, they'd be better. So maybe perfect isn't the best word. But then again, I don't think perfect is 'perfect', iffin's you will.
Shapey and his brother managed to overcome their disabilities and start fulfilling careers in law enforcement and firefighting. 3:35
I was wondering who was the ppl in the photos, So beautiful
the symbolism of that picture crack was perfect to go before the line
Orel giving shapey and block his stop motion set is one of the most sad but cutest things ever
What kills me is how this is the only time Clay ever hugs and says he loves Orel, and its the most blatant excuse for saying he loves his affair partner anyone could come up with. No wonder Orel gave up on him after this: it wasnt just he couldnt respect his father, but that his father never loved him.
Perfect ending they could have achieved with what was given. And such a complex and deep message.
Perhaps some of us are doomed. Perhaps the darkness in others can’t be cured. Perhaps we can never find true salvation. Perhaps.
But perhaps there is hope. And even in a godless world devoid of such things as certainty, morality or even compassion the only logical course of action is to take a chance. Have a little faith. A little hope. You never know what the future will bring.
Apparently they had a 5 season redemption arc planned for Clay, but had to cut it when the show was cancelled. Personally, I think this is a better ending. Some people dig themselves into such a deep hole that they can no longer see the sky, and all they have left to do is keep digging.
@@lucaswilliams2292 I thought Clay was going to ultimately end up alone.
@@lucaswilliams2292 damn poor clay then, would've liked to see him become a better person.
That desperate repetition of 'I love you' will never cease to get me, along with how unconvinced Daniel is. Because he knows that it doesn't matter if he means those words or not. Either way... It's too late.
I love how all three Puppington sons managed to reach a good life. Orel with a loving family, Block and Shapey as Policeman and Firefighters
The ending brought me to tears. Orel broke the cycle
I love the implication of Orel's ending... and how much Coach Stopframe really did, not only exposed Clay for the rotten person he is but in a way actually saved Orel. Within the short amount of time they spent together Orel was able to experience a real unconditional love, and from a man who pretty much is one of the most morally flawed characters. But I think that's beauty of it while we saw Clay try to lie to himself that he's in a loving, caring and has a great life we the audience know that he's in denial. At his core he only cares about himself and that's why when he's faced with one of his most greatest denials his affair coach he reveals his true nature. Denying and obviously lying while everyone room knows the truth... But for Coach he faces the truth that the man he so dangerously desired is toxic and not good for him and cuts the chain himself. Which presents Orel two-sides it's either he can live and denial like his father - be a coward, and continue to make mistakes and justify them or be like Coach be accountable - accept your flaws and times you've made mistakes, take them and be better because of them. I think that Christmas Orel was a wake up call to him and grew up to be a better man and more importantly a better father.
Amazing how one kid is able to break the cycle of dysfunctional families that’s been going on for god know how long. Kinda brings a sense of hope to the audience, right?
I'm glad Orel's brothers have him. And each other. They might turn out okay.
you can see in the pictures on Orel's wall that Shapey becomes a police officer and Block becomes a firemen. They turned out okay after all.
They did it's miracle that they did but they did
"...your mom likes your dad?" Yo I'm fucking dying, that's hilarious.
This ending hit so hard. Moral Orel is the story of essentially Orel and his father. Clay has been sleepwalking through parenting and living for the last 12 years and as Orel grows and starts asking questions and becoming more complicated, it reminds clay of himself and awakens his own emotions and issues. He tries to suppress Orel, to guide Orel, to beat him back into being convenient or just becoming a copy of himself, but Orel continues showing clay just how miserable and self-loathing he is. To me, this scene is the moment where Orel and Clay fully split, Clay fully devolves into being empty and emotionless while Orel determines he won't allow himself to be manipulated and turned into his father. It's a beautiful, heart tending moment
After growing up with a dysfunctional abusive family, Orel stuck to his faith of God and not by his dad's words, they grow up he moved out of the house, became a police officer to protect Morelton, met the love of his life from a previous family he was not allowed to see, they married they had two beautiful children, and live happily ever after. This is by far the most beautiful ending to the series I've ever seen.
Bawling. Crying. Tears. Always. God this show stirred something in me that will never be repaired.
I'm surprised. Most people seem to find this show cathartic.
I’m glad that Oral’s brothers seemed to turn out happy as well despite the toxicity (from the photos)
People complain that Homer Simpson and Randy Marsh aren’t good fathers, but they are decent, and compared to Clay, they are both Saints, even Peter Griffin is better than Clay.
Naw, Peter is worse than Clay. At least Clay did not marry Orel.
@@jsweatt354 Yeah, but he didn’t have a couple good seasons, and didn’t admit he liked shooting his kid.
The fact that Orel came from a family that couldn’t be more broken and dysfunctional yet still managed to make a happy family for himself is a surprisingly optimistic note to end this series on.
Orel is the Miracle of Moralton
“Dear Orel, always remember son, even though you are the perfect candidate for brainwashing in this town, you are also too pure and good hearted to be corrupted.”
Love Grandpa
Does anybody else notice how the Fragical Productions girl says “Goodbye-Goodbye!” instead of “Hello-Goodbye!” as usual? That shit hits deep
The ending scene where Orel grows up and we see his happy family is enough to make a grown man cry
Orel is such a sweet young man, even though his parents absolutely hated each other, he still loved them and treated them as if they were meant for each other and wanted Orel in their lives. I wish this show potentially continues at some point in time, this and bojack horsemen are my two favourite shows of all Time and I ASPIRE to make something as great as both of those one day.
I had not realized that Orel's wife is Christina, it is good to know that in the end they were both able to be together and start a family and become better parents
A couple of other things that are easy to miss. On the wall you can see pictures of Block and Shapey. Showing one's become a cop and the other a firefighter. Also, Orel isn't wearing a belt. Meaning he's not beating his children.
If the additional 2 seasons happened, we would’ve seen Orel bond more with the coach and looking up to him as his father figure
I like how this show and this scene are just so good that literally no one in the comments brought up the "who knows, who cares" edit at 3:31
Nah, someone did. It's just the remnants of my love for ytp's. I can't hear a line and not think about a similar delivery.
Least it's not as cringey as my borderlands video.
I mean that's all cool but I wanna know where it's from lol
Trails of Mana. Bill and Ben.
@@killertrip10 we got a specific scene here? The line delivery is 👌👌
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Moral Orel is the only show I can think of that didn't just use it's "adult show" categorization for cheap and crass jokes, but also used it to explore mature and disturbing real life issues, and is one of the shows in my very small personal list that tries to show serious issues or subject matter and doesn't come off as preachy or disingenuous.
Blue what do you think of Orthodoxy
This show taught me it took me awhile to realize this you cannot change the family he was born into you cannot change the past you have to accept it and you have to move on it shows that he saw his family for what they was, saw his mom and dad for who they was he was no longer blinded by them just because they was his parents that's the sad reality of growing up some of us see the true being of our parents. But he did not choose toxicity and sadness that goes to show your past do not define your future you are responsible for your happiness no one else.
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If there is one good thing that came from Clay and Bloberta’s marriage, it’s that Orel was able to become better than both his parents just by thinking about their relationship and how they treated him.
I love how this show wasnt about mocking christianity like some people said, it is not. Its just a show with christians characters
Damn this episode always makes me think. I know this might be a bit of a controversial opinion but honestly one of the best things you can do to achieve a happy, loving family in the future is to work on loving yourself before you get married and/or REALLY know the person you are planning to marry before you tie the knot with them. As shown in the series, Bloberta and Clay are dysfunctional because of more than one reason, but the biggest reason was probably because Bloberta wanted to marry to Clay simply because she wanted to get married, didn't matter who. And assuming Orel married Christina, who he has known since childhood, you can see a big difference between his future family and his childhood family. Idk... I'm not an expert at these things, it's just a trend I've noticed in unhappy married couples that I've experienced in the past. However, if anyone has a differing opinion I'd be happy to discuss it in the replies.
I love how optimistic this ending is, Orel could have grown up to be like someone cynical and bitter,over the border evil, or some drunk comic who talks big shit but is just a broken little wuss.
but he ended up being an honest guy with a loving family who appears to still be a good man.
I forgot how fucking PAINFUL this ending was. Jfc
I love that this show is honest about the fact that people don’t always get better, and yet it still delivers a happy ending. Clay and Bloberta never change, they’d rather remain in the miserable cycle they know than face themselves in order to grow. But that doesn’t have to be how Orel’s story goes, and it isn’t! He’s so much stronger than his parents, he builds a loving family with Christina even after their families tried to keep them apart, and we can only assume his positive influence is what helps Block & Shapey overcome their upbringing as well.
Never noticed that shapey and block became a cop and fire fighter when this was airing lol (the portraits) thank you pause button.
I thought the cop was Orel at first, but I think you're right.
@@killertrip10 Shapey and Block were supposed to grow into responsible young men if the show continued
So Sad This Show Was Canceled.
Least we got 2 more seasons of Rick and Morty and Mr Pickles.
@@killertrip10 Rick and morty is easy to hate because it’s really popular but in all honesty it’s not that bad mr Pickles is legit terrible though
@@yoyonono51497 I just have issues with a guy who believes in string theory making "Daryl".
the way Orel’s son laughs just like him, my heart 🥺❤️🩹
This ending gives me hope; having grown up in an abusive religious family Moral Orel was my therapy.
i like how kinda like in the nature episode, the red glow from the fire grows on clays face as he goes on and on, well, i know it was from him getting near the fire so it might not have been intentional, but i like to imagine that it was.
Damn near everything in Nature was intentional. The flies landing on Clay, the Stork, the biblical symbol of kindness, perching near Orel, Orel having green and blue in his background, symbols of tranquility, Clay having red, black, and orange, while he's eating man's best friend.
Probably one of the episodes they spent the longest on, is my guess.
The third season of the show is probably one of the best things ever to be on TV, and played it perfectly. The show spent the first two seasons making you laugh at all the various characters in town for their faults and short comings, and then in season three it shows you the reason those characters acted the way they did stemmed from the severe trauma they suffered in their life that stunted and hampered them. Showing the origins of their behavior made you the viewer feel dirty and disgusting and ashamed of yourself for every having laughed at these characters misfortunes for two entire seasons.
Agnes Sculptham, Nurse Bendy, Doughy... all characters you laughed at and then when you realize their story, their FULL story and the pain they go through you feel like shit. And i love it. "I Think You Should Leave Now" did a similar thing with their "Ghost Tour" sketch and i highly recommend people watch that as well.
I love the fact Orel Married Christina and they are loving to thier kids🥹🥹🥹💖💖💖💖
And Block and Shapey became policemen and firemen 💕💕
Ver que Orel se volvió el padre que hubiera querido tener me genera mucha paz y felicidad
Igual 👍
Man, this is one of the only adult cartoon I know that actually ended really well
Ehh... Could of been more graceful on the production side of things.
God forbid you don't jump when Ouewleen/Hiedecker cracks their whip.
What a beautiful ending for Orel
Valentine was a perfect music choice for this episode, the song where Orel is aging makes my face tingle in a way.
I watch this whenever I feel hopeless about my own future
I love what the coach says about orel, even though true his dad isn't an honorable man, or even a decent man, "your dad made you, and I think that's honorable!"
IF THE LORD WERE ALIVE TODAAAAYYY WHAT WOULD YOU GIVE HIM THIS CHRIIISTMAASS