Great video and thanks for including us on this off-road adventure guys! Although we think Kia should have let us get a little air on that hill in the dirt, maybe next time? 🤔😂
I understand that so many RUclips channels want to be number 1 and TFL is no exception but it is awesome when you feature other channels from the same genre it’s even better. I’m subbed to more than a dozen YT car channels and I hate to say it but I watch them all! Again, it’s cool to see this mash up with those in your profession!
I like the Sportage update. I would test drive if and when I am buying. My in-laws bought a 2019 new and haven't had one issue on 3 years. I wouldn't buy a Kia for off-road!!! Very nice that the Sportage has a 8 speed and not a CVT.
@@canadianaviator I find you are incorrect: Edmunds 2022 Kia Sportage Specs & Features Transmission 6-speed shiftable automatic 2023: 8-Speed Automatic Transmission
I really like the new Sportage. I remember making fun of Kia's back in the day then after my wife totaled our newer Escape because of suicidal moose, we needed something fast for appointments and general living. We bought a used Kia Sedona and it has been a great vehicle that has had a VERY hard life. I would totally buy another kia without questioning it. I would even say the Kia has been tougher than our either of our Explorer (I mean what isn't, right?) but also our other Ford vehicles have not been as strong or reliable.
Mom's 06 Sportage has thus far pulled out my '76 1ton. My linked 4 runner. My friends trucks. Out bested a f350 on roids in a muddy river. And has only had oil/filters and ONE timing belt unnecessarily changed @ 330k.
I watch both TFL and Redline Reviews because the reviewers are great and they know a lot about automobiles. Would love to see more collaborations like this in the future on both channels!
Hi, just you know there are terrain settings using the same knob as the drive setting but by pressing the button... can't believe you missed that... the settings for terrain are snow, sand, mud.... where as the driving setting are normal, sport and drive... it's all there...
Good; the other half of the TFL/Redline mash-up! I love the exterior looks . . . except for the 'Snidley Whiplash' silver accents on the rear bumper. Honestly, if you can get a base-ish Hybrid and get it for around 30k, depending upon what you have to give up for that price, Kia may have created one of the best deals in the market.
I miss my 2012 Kia Sportage. Upgraded to a Subaru Crosstrek (as a Subaru fanboi). My real world driving experience says the Sportage AWD was just as capable as the Subaru. KIA doesn't make their own AWD they contract to Magna Powertrain "off the shelf" unit. With the 4x4 lock I found it worked better than X-Mode in snow and ice.
@@jerrymyahzcat You got that right. It deactivates over 40 km/h and you can't enable it again until you drive under 20. The last thing I want in a low traction situation is to fiddle with buttons between the seats.
Saw a 2023 Sportage in the wild. The thing has presence. Like it. The driver probably caught me gawking at it. But I suspect he's used to getting stares in the thing.
This is an interesting redesign. There is a lot to like, but I have a few criticisms and concerns. 1. Longevity. Kia has had issues with longevity, especially with engines. Is this new Sportage better in that regard? We won't know for awhile. 2. I agree, there needs to be a Kia Sportage X-Pro Prestige HYBRID. 3. A little more ground clearance and underbody protection would be nice. 4. Dealer network. Kia/Hyundai's dealer network is not the best. There are only 3 dealers with 150 miles of me, and none of them has a particularly good reputation. 5. Infotainment and HVAC controls are wonky. 6. Yes, the upper end models are pricey. Things I like: 1. I actually like the design. 2. Full size spare on the X-Pro Prestige. 3. Conventional AWD driveline and conventional automatic transmission. 4. Appears to be spacious and comfortable.
I’m trying to decide between this and a Mini Countryman S All4. What are your thoughts between the two ? Love the Kia tech but love the Mini size. Great video as usual guys !
Kia/Hyundai nowadays are not too bad. Just a “bad” major issue with them, but before in the days most car companies went through stuff. They are Making nice vehicles these days .. I had 1 Kia Optima before and it was great.
Just ignore all the class action lawsuits over Kia and Hyundai engine fires. And forget about the notoriously terrible reliability across The whole lineup
@@chrishasyourkeys2808 So funny that you mention that like I told others JD Power is awards you pay for, every wonder why Chevy has more JD power awards than anyone else.Hint it's not because they build the best vehicles. Buy a Toyota or Honda they don't advertise Thier vehicles with B's awards like initial quality they just build good reliable cars.
Did KIA mention if the Sportage Hybrid has a "Camping Mode" where the climate control will run continuously with the gas engine turning on occasionally to bring up the hybrid battery charge level. (This is a critical aspect of the "Hotel Prius" movement.
I have a 2024 x pro prestige it has all the things you wanted or didn’t want to say it had and xpro does have a higher clearance. Fair review since you only gave what you wanted to. Hung up on the it’s a Kia grow up guys
I think Kia recognizes that 99% of crossover owners are not going to be taking their vehicles over anything more difficult than a dirt road to the campsite and most of them probably won't even do that and they're just buying for the styling
We just picked up the plug in hybrid sportage, comes with AWD, I’m curious if it has the same clearance and how some all terrain tires will affect the mpg
Seems like Kia is testing the waters with this XPro. Honestly if Kia put more effort into the XPro (like more ground clearance, recovery points, front skid plate) it might be able to compete. But if they are going to play it safe with just tires in future models, the XPro won't catch consumers attention in the softroader segment.
I love the design, coming from a v6 owner and towing regularly an atv, I am a little worried with that engine performance, I wish it was offered with a turbo or v6
Not that its a replacement for torque, but these have an 8 speed transmission, which I'm sure helps. The sportage hybrid has 258 lbft torque I believe...
The whole “that’s a Kia??” Comments need to stop. Kia has proven itself time and again. And the design, engineering, reliability etc. have surpassed the Japanese cars and the German in many categories. Time to give it credit where it’s due.
Why not have wireless apple car play on the upper trim levels!? They should make it optional to have a smaller screen for the apple car play option on the upper trim. Weird.
The annoying thing is that the Canadian version Sportage has the dirt/sand/mud options in the drive modes. It is simple programing. Hopefully Kia updates the US versions,
When's the Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross going to get a review? It seems the perfect competitor against the Subaru Crosstrek in your fleet. I'm really interested to see how it would fare.
Fun video! I really appreciate you bringing up some cx-50 comparisons as that is on my radar as well…agree the Mazda looks great and probably handles better too but appreciate the bigger cargo space and hybrid option of the Kia. The styling has also grown on me to the point it is not a deal breaker
I test drove the Sportage and CX-50 recently. Both great options inside and out, however every KIA dealership near me (about 5-6 of them) was marking up the Sportage an insane amount, like $3000-8000 on top of MSRP. Whereas there were multiple Mazda dealerships selling the CX-50 at MSRP. This difference alone makes the CX-50 such a better value.
@@mneal713 my daughter was lucky enough to get a cx-30 well below msrp last year. She loves that car which makes me lean toward the Mazda. I like the slightly higher towing capacity too
I think it looks a lot better in person than on Camara, though you can tell it's related to the new Tucson when they are parked side by side despite the drastic design difference. I'd honestly probably take the Sportage over the Tucson, but the Santa Cruz over both.
It’s a shame that Hyundai didn’t continue in with Terracan which was a decent 4wd then Kia could have had a clone. They had a solid rear axle, lift kit available, and most importantly low range.
This is not a good test for off reading I use to off road and this is just a baby trail. They need to be able to really try a good trail with a lot more difficulty
I have this vehicle from a rental agency in Burlington, VT and it is going back to the agency. It is completely unacceptable in snow. The rental version lacks a way to activate AWD. Horrendous traction control software cannot apparently be disabled. Every decision I make as a seasoned New England driver gets overridden by poorly designed software, so one spends more effort fighting the drivetrain than dealing with snow and ice. I would never recommend this vehicle for anything other than freeway driving under excellent conditions in southern states. It is very dangerous in snow and ice, fishtails where it should’t, drops from one wheel drive to zero wheel drive on uphills, and behaves poorly across the board as a winter driver… think sledding rather than driving. Very poor software design and a poorly written owner’s manual make this a dangerous choice in winter conditions - especially for a rental vehicle.
The time has come and KIA is more off-road capable than Subaru. Question of faith or not, but Subaru should continue to ignore their customers and thus bring themselves into oblivion. In times of the internet and swarm knowledge not very wise to play so deaf. Should they mount their CVT transmission where the sun doesn't shine. For over 20 years praying "No CVT".. Ignored. As you can see, every Kia is now more capable.
I wouldn't call that course off road.. dusty or dirty road... doesn't take that much going down a hill that's not almost smooth..no gravel or mudd....and I learned all that from watching you guys..SO, what points did it get...
Please call it Sportáge as in portage like we do in Canada. The car was launched under this name and somewhere America got lazy and started calling it Sportige. 😒
Great video and thanks for including us on this off-road adventure guys! Although we think Kia should have let us get a little air on that hill in the dirt, maybe next time? 🤔😂
The 2 best around. This was awesome seeing you both together!
These are my two of my favorite reviewing channels working together to make one video... thanks for doing this!
Great collab!
Great collaboration! I enjoyed this review with both of you in it.
Great job guys please do it again.
You’re crazy! The exterior is by far the best looking of all suvs. It’s gorgeous inside and out.
It's nice vehicle overall these two nitpicking is annoying.
I like your two personalities together. Two good car reviewers, who know about what they are testing.
Definitely need more buddy reviews like this! I always enjoy when RUclips celebrities collaborate like this! 👍🏾👍🏾
I understand that so many RUclips channels want to be number 1 and TFL is no exception but it is awesome when you feature other channels from the same genre it’s even better. I’m subbed to more than a dozen YT car channels and I hate to say it but I watch them all! Again, it’s cool to see this mash up with those in your profession!
I like the Sportage update. I would test drive if and when I am buying. My in-laws bought a 2019 new and haven't had one issue on 3 years. I wouldn't buy a Kia for off-road!!! Very nice that the Sportage has a 8 speed and not a CVT.
2 bad it's probably the slowest and worst gas mileage in class. Though I haven't really looked I could only imagine.
Kia only has CVT
@@canadianaviator no it doesn't.
@@canadianaviator I find you are incorrect:
Edmunds
2022 Kia Sportage Specs & Features
Transmission 6-speed shiftable automatic
2023:
8-Speed Automatic Transmission
@@canadianaviator you couldnt be more wrong
I really like the new Sportage. I remember making fun of Kia's back in the day then after my wife totaled our newer Escape because of suicidal moose, we needed something fast for appointments and general living. We bought a used Kia Sedona and it has been a great vehicle that has had a VERY hard life. I would totally buy another kia without questioning it. I would even say the Kia has been tougher than our either of our Explorer (I mean what isn't, right?) but also our other Ford vehicles have not been as strong or reliable.
Mom's 06 Sportage has thus far pulled out my '76 1ton. My linked 4 runner. My friends trucks. Out bested a f350 on roids in a muddy river. And has only had oil/filters and ONE timing belt unnecessarily changed @ 330k.
Good to see that my choice was solid just bought the Sportage Hybrid sx prestige with the red interior.
I watch both TFL and Redline Reviews because the reviewers are great and they know a lot about automobiles. Would love to see more collaborations like this in the future on both channels!
Hi, just you know there are terrain settings using the same knob as the drive setting but by pressing the button... can't believe you missed that... the settings for terrain are snow, sand, mud.... where as the driving setting are normal, sport and drive... it's all there...
Considering this is some kind of Kia event, that should have been pointed out as soon as they got in the car 🤦♂️
@@snoogllies you're right...
I have Kia sportage experience green. I upgraded sound system with active sub and all 6 speakers, now it is perfect.
Good; the other half of the TFL/Redline mash-up!
I love the exterior looks . . . except for the 'Snidley Whiplash' silver accents on the rear bumper.
Honestly, if you can get a base-ish Hybrid and get it for around 30k, depending upon what you have to give up for that price, Kia may have created one of the best deals in the market.
I miss my 2012 Kia Sportage. Upgraded to a Subaru Crosstrek (as a Subaru fanboi). My real world driving experience says the Sportage AWD was just as capable as the Subaru. KIA doesn't make their own AWD they contract to Magna Powertrain "off the shelf" unit. With the 4x4 lock I found it worked better than X-Mode in snow and ice.
That’s because X-Mode is pretty much rubbish.
@@jerrymyahzcat You got that right. It deactivates over 40 km/h and you can't enable it again until you drive under 20. The last thing I want in a low traction situation is to fiddle with buttons between the seats.
@@chrish6373 Yep. My Terrain Response modes work at all speeds.
@@allentoyokawa9068 your opinion doesn't outweigh his, allen. kia isn't garbage. subaru's engines are. so shut up.
@@allentoyokawa9068 are you japanese??
Kia and Hyundai are making some really cool cars!
6:14 Pretty impressive for a Kia Sportage! The brand and model have definitely come a long way!
Saw a 2023 Sportage in the wild. The thing has presence. Like it. The driver probably caught me gawking at it. But I suspect he's used to getting stares in the thing.
I’ve seen a few of these new Sportages behind me on the road and it looks really nice!
It's always fun when the TFL guys get together with the other RUclips folks. Thanks for the video!
This is an interesting redesign. There is a lot to like, but I have a few criticisms and concerns.
1. Longevity. Kia has had issues with longevity, especially with engines. Is this new Sportage better in that regard? We won't know for awhile.
2. I agree, there needs to be a Kia Sportage X-Pro Prestige HYBRID.
3. A little more ground clearance and underbody protection would be nice.
4. Dealer network. Kia/Hyundai's dealer network is not the best. There are only 3 dealers with 150 miles of me, and none of them has a particularly good reputation.
5. Infotainment and HVAC controls are wonky.
6. Yes, the upper end models are pricey.
Things I like:
1. I actually like the design.
2. Full size spare on the X-Pro Prestige.
3. Conventional AWD driveline and conventional automatic transmission.
4. Appears to be spacious and comfortable.
My 2013 LX AWD with diff lock and down hill decent would do great there the approach and departure on my sportage is pretty darn good
Guys we love kia design family plus the name never forget Sportage legend.
I’m trying to decide between this and a Mini Countryman S All4. What are your thoughts between the two ?
Love the Kia tech but love the Mini size.
Great video as usual guys !
I just bought a 2022 in Feb for my daughters 18th Birthday, she loves it. I really like it also.
Kia/Hyundai nowadays are not too bad. Just a “bad” major issue with them, but before in the days most car companies went through stuff. They are Making nice vehicles these days .. I had 1 Kia Optima before and it was great.
Just ignore all the class action lawsuits over Kia and Hyundai engine fires. And forget about the notoriously terrible reliability across The whole lineup
@@TheRealStevenSeagals ranked number one by JD power
@@chrishasyourkeys2808 So funny that you mention that like I told others JD Power is awards you pay for, every wonder why Chevy has more JD power awards than anyone else.Hint it's not because they build the best vehicles. Buy a Toyota or Honda they don't advertise Thier vehicles with B's awards like initial quality they just build good reliable cars.
@@TheRealStevenSeagals so when Toyota wins they're paying too, gotcha
@@TheRealStevenSeagals thanks buddy
Drove the european Kia Sportage with the DCT and it had no problems doing some light offroading. Good review though.
Great review. Fun to watch the two of you together review the Kia.
Two of my favorite auto guys. Awesome review and collaboration.
Loving the collaboration!!! Too awesome! And of course I follow both!
Did KIA mention if the Sportage Hybrid has a "Camping Mode" where the climate control will run continuously with the gas engine turning on occasionally to bring up the hybrid battery charge level. (This is a critical aspect of the "Hotel Prius" movement.
What do u think is better when comparing it to the Subaru xv??
If you can find a first generation Kia Sportage try comparing it to today’s Kia Sportage offroad.
I have a 2024 x pro prestige it has all the things you wanted or didn’t want to say it had and xpro does have a higher clearance. Fair review since you only gave what you wanted to. Hung up on the it’s a Kia grow up guys
I think Kia recognizes that 99% of crossover owners are not going to be taking their vehicles over anything more difficult than a dirt road to the campsite and most of them probably won't even do that and they're just buying for the styling
We just picked up the plug in hybrid sportage, comes with AWD, I’m curious if it has the same clearance and how some all terrain tires will affect the mpg
Just looked it up, its the X-line trim and has the same bottom clearance and departure angles as the Xpro. Hybrid trail car for the fam!
You two vibe super well! That was both entertaining and informative!
Lol bought my 2022 4 runner sr5 for 40k......way better deals are out there. But they have come along way great review guys
Seems like Kia is testing the waters with this XPro. Honestly if Kia put more effort into the XPro (like more ground clearance, recovery points, front skid plate) it might be able to compete. But if they are going to play it safe with just tires in future models, the XPro won't catch consumers attention in the softroader segment.
Tommy .. you work well with Sofyan ... You should work together more often ..
I love the design, coming from a v6 owner and towing regularly an atv, I am a little worried with that engine performance, I wish it was offered with a turbo or v6
Not that its a replacement for torque, but these have an 8 speed transmission, which I'm sure helps. The sportage hybrid has 258 lbft torque I believe...
Is the X-Line or X-Line Prestige? I believe X-Line does not have the front camera?
Wow, two of my favorite guys together. Kia, is killing it.
The whole “that’s a Kia??” Comments need to stop. Kia has proven itself time and again. And the design, engineering, reliability etc. have surpassed the Japanese cars and the German in many categories. Time to give it credit where it’s due.
Why not have wireless apple car play on the upper trim levels!? They should make it optional to have a smaller screen for the apple car play option on the upper trim. Weird.
The annoying thing is that the Canadian version Sportage has the dirt/sand/mud options in the drive modes. It is simple programing. Hopefully Kia updates the US versions,
Loved it. MOAR! please.
Someone pls explain to me why in the USA the year of made is always 1 year ahead? Like this Sportage come out this year 2022 but title says 2023. ?
You know, it's looks are growing on me.
I love full digital display but why the icon has to be minimalist? Come on who has that kind of neon like icon in their smartphone?
Guys I am kinda stuck between Sportage x pro and CX-50 turbo. Need help
Wow so it did good on the course they set up for you to try? That's amazing!
I wish it had a mechanical rear LSD to help with off-road.
More ground clearance would have a negative effect in the on road handling.
Fun video. And a surprisingly capable soft weekender. Do more collab videos. You guys are a good combo
When's the Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross going to get a review? It seems the perfect competitor against the Subaru Crosstrek in your fleet. I'm really interested to see how it would fare.
lol might be too ugly and break the camera
why does the best trim now have wireless android auto and apple? so weird?
Did I hear Tommy call Sofyan “Sophie” there once? Lol 😂 Sofyan doesn’t strike me as the type of gentleman to like that!
Have the engine / gearbox problems been sorted out. If not I won’t touch it
For that price you can get a trailhawk... just saying
I thought my eyes were tricking me!! Loved seeing you guys together! It’s the collab I never knew I needed!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Can you guys review a newer jeep renegade trailhawk? Might be my next car, and no newer reviews like this about it anywhere
Love the collab!
Fun video! I really appreciate you bringing up some cx-50 comparisons as that is on my radar as well…agree the Mazda looks great and probably handles better too but appreciate the bigger cargo space and hybrid option of the Kia. The styling has also grown on me to the point it is not a deal breaker
I test drove the Sportage and CX-50 recently. Both great options inside and out, however every KIA dealership near me (about 5-6 of them) was marking up the Sportage an insane amount, like $3000-8000 on top of MSRP. Whereas there were multiple Mazda dealerships selling the CX-50 at MSRP. This difference alone makes the CX-50 such a better value.
@@mneal713 my daughter was lucky enough to get a cx-30 well below msrp last year. She loves that car which makes me lean toward the Mazda. I like the slightly higher towing capacity too
I think it looks a lot better in person than on Camara, though you can tell it's related to the new Tucson when they are parked side by side despite the drastic design difference. I'd honestly probably take the Sportage over the Tucson, but the Santa Cruz over both.
I love my Sportage. I want to take my there 😅
If the front end of this Sportage had more pronounced headlights and more detail in the grille, it would look cool imo.
Subaru xv, suzuki s cross, renault duster.... is the best off road...
Thx for the amazing fun video, both of u r really awesome 👌.
Somehow I don't see this car as an off-road car.
Omg My 2 Favs together at last!!!
Great video as usual.
It’s a shame that Hyundai didn’t continue in with Terracan which was a decent 4wd then Kia could have had a clone. They had a solid rear axle, lift kit available, and most importantly low range.
There are off-road modes if you buy a Canadian one
So can you project this performance to the SantaCruz with the 2.4 and 8-speed AT?
I really like these collabs with 2 of my favorite channels.
I like the look and the tech, but I really can't bring myself to trust that Theta engine.
Best cross team ever 😎
The front headlights kinda look like this emoji 😆
😂😂😂
This is not a good test for off reading I use to off road and this is just a baby trail. They need to be able to really try a good trail with a lot more difficulty
Good for the streets and light dusting of snow but not actual 4x4
I have this vehicle from a rental agency in Burlington, VT and it is going back to the agency. It is completely unacceptable in snow. The rental version lacks a way to activate AWD. Horrendous traction control software cannot apparently be disabled. Every decision I make as a seasoned New England driver gets overridden by poorly designed software, so one spends more effort fighting the drivetrain than dealing with snow and ice.
I would never recommend this vehicle for anything other than freeway driving under excellent conditions in southern states. It is very dangerous in snow and ice, fishtails where it should’t, drops from one wheel drive to zero wheel drive on uphills, and behaves poorly across the board as a winter driver… think sledding rather than driving.
Very poor software design and a poorly written owner’s manual make this a dangerous choice in winter conditions - especially for a rental vehicle.
The time has come and KIA is more off-road capable than Subaru. Question of faith or not, but Subaru should continue to ignore their customers and thus bring themselves into oblivion. In times of the internet and swarm knowledge not very wise to play so deaf. Should they mount their CVT transmission where the sun doesn't shine. For over 20 years praying "No CVT".. Ignored.
As you can see, every Kia is now more capable.
Even the DCT Kias?
@@jayhiggins5239 Kia doesn’t have DCT. Only CVT.
Should’ve been a better course to really see how it handles
Crazy that wireless Apple CarPlay is only available on the base trim. That’s a HUGE miss, almost as HUGE as Tommy calling a hill a Mountain, 😂
Honda mini vans look like it's going to a funeral . still waiting for a all electric van.. as you get older the vans are easier to get in and out of
I wouldn't call that course off road.. dusty or dirty road... doesn't take that much going down a hill that's not almost smooth..no gravel or mudd....and I learned all that from watching you guys..SO, what points did it get...
Short base version we’ve got in Europe does not look as good as this one
I think the outer design is weird. I like it, but my feeling is that such designs tend to look old very rapidly.
Looks like a vehicle designed from a Nissan Rogue and Toyota RAV4. Has a lot of their design ques
After that adventure all air filters should be changed
Please call it Sportáge as in portage like we do in Canada. The car was launched under this name and somewhere America got lazy and started calling it Sportige. 😒
The US Sportage is huge compared to the European model
Wrong awd have a bit more height.
Do it in a Carnival then I’ll be impressed
Now I feel obligated to go watch the Redline video.
Is that sofyan bey beside you?
He says it right at 0:30
I have always liked the look of most Kia's, minus the Sportage. It's always looked weird looking. I'd much rather have the Sorento.
Nice rig
Why every RUclips reviewer are ignoring the Kia's and Hyundai's burning problems? 🔥
true. they never talk about recalls. honda sudden engine stall? 🙊
How cheap cars in US are...
Mine in AT costs 50 k€
Nice video, though!
После такой пыли задиры в цилиндрах 100%! Хотя это ж Киа, они там наверное уже с завода были... Капремонт или замена двигателя
dct gear is a deal breaker for me