Watch Live: Pike County Massacre Trial - OH v. George Wagner IV - Day 41

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  • Опубликовано: 9 ноя 2022
  • George Wagner, IV is standing trial for the April 2016 murders of eight members of the Rhoden and Gilley families. Wagner IV faces 22 counts including eight counts of aggravated murder with death penalty specifications, aggravated burglary, conspiracy, tampering with evidence and forgery.
    Wagner’s brother, Edward “Jake” Wagner, and his mother, Angela Wagner, have already pleaded guilty to taking part in the conspiracy to murder the eight Rhoden and Gilley family members over their desire to obtain full custody of the then two-year-old daughter Jake shared with victim Hanna May Rhoden. Angela and Jake Wagner have agreed to testify against their family members.
    George “Billy” Wagner, the father of Jake and George, faces the same 22 counts.
    On the morning of April 22, 2016, family members found Chris Rhoden, Sr., 40, and his cousin, Gary Rhoden, 38, dead in Chris’ mobile home on Union Hill Rd. Chris Sr.’s ex-wife, Dana Manley Rhoden, 37, and their children, Hanna May Rhoden, 19, and Chris Rhoden Jr., 16, were found shot in the head in their sleep in their mobile home down the road. Hanna May had given birth days earlier to a baby girl who was not harmed. Clarence "Frankie" Rhoden, 20 and his fiancee, Hannah "Hazel" Gilley, 20, were also found shot to death in their sleep. Their six-month-old son was in between them covered in blood but unharmed. Frankie’s four-year-old son was unharmed in the home as well.
    Kenneth Rhoden, 44, was found shot once in the eye in his camper on Left Fork Rd. more than seven miles away.
    Angela Wagner’s mother, Rita Newcomb, pleaded guilty in 2019 to a misdemeanor count of obstruction. She had been charged with forgery and obstruction of justice for lying about signing and notarizing custody documents related to Hanna May, Jake and George’s children. Newcomb has agreed to testify against her family members.
    Billy Wagner’s mother, Fredericka Wagner, was initially charged with obstruction of justice and forgery for allegedly lying about purchasing a bullet-resistant vest for Billy. The charges were dropped after it was discovered a plate in the vest was manufactured after the homicides. Prosecutors have said they may refile the charges at a later date. Fredericka has been subpoenaed to testify.
    The victims:
    Christopher Rhoden Sr., 40
    his ex-wife Dana Manley Rhoden, 38,
    their children Christopher Rhoden Jr., 16, Hanna May Rhoden, 19, and Clarence “Frankie” Rhoden, 20,
    Christopher Sr.’s cousin Gary Rhoden, 38,
    Sr.’s brother Kenneth Rhoden, 44,
    and Frankie’s fiancée Hannah “Hazel” Gilley, 20
    The Wagners did it so they could get custody of the young daughter Jake had with his ex Hanna Rhoden, prosecutors said. Jake indeed won sole custody of the child, now 8, after the murders. The Wagners moved to Alaska. That all changed after authorities arrested them in November 2018, sparking a legal battle lasting almost four years.
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  • @heather3383
    @heather3383 Год назад +23

    So tired of hearing his high-pitched yelling. That would drive me up the wall!

    • @l.g.4075
      @l.g.4075 Год назад +5

      Right!!! George sounds more like a woman than Angela does.

    • @ravens411rock
      @ravens411rock Год назад +1

      Aren't you happy you have a normal family?

    • @heather3383
      @heather3383 Год назад +3

      @@l.g.4075 Were you able to make out much of what was said? It was so offensive to my ears, I had to take breaks! I was on one live forum where a listener asked who the woman was that was yelling. 🤣

    • @heather3383
      @heather3383 Год назад

      I was on, too! That was YOU??!! I was glad you said it, and totally agreed. I couldn’t figure out who was throwing all of those horrific expletives initially!! I could make out some of it, and some folks were talking about “ear fatigue,” which resonated with me, as well.

    • @bumblebaa2327
      @bumblebaa2327 Год назад

      I'm hearing Joe Dalton :D

  • @sandife4nandes365
    @sandife4nandes365 Год назад +44

    George was clearly involved in this crime, yet he is putting the victims families through this trial. That is pure evil.

    • @ragaraga8732
      @ragaraga8732 Год назад

      he just rolling the dice..guess he knows his chances very very slim..but hey if other obvious killers walked.. like OJ...The stairs guy peterson? Durst in Texas..ANYBODY can get off with a confused jury. thing is jurys dont get an IQ test!

    • @ciarajackson9862
      @ciarajackson9862 Год назад +4

      As wrong as it is I’m not going to knock him for that- he has a 50/50 chance of getting off -most anyone else would do the same.
      Myself I’d be too ate up w/guilt I’d plead but we are talking about ppl without a conscience

    • @ragaraga8732
      @ragaraga8732 Год назад

      @@ciarajackson9862 no . a lot less than 50 50 chance. more like no chance!

    • @jacquelinegeorget-vachon3933
      @jacquelinegeorget-vachon3933 Год назад +4

      You have a right to a fair trial!

    • @ragaraga8732
      @ragaraga8732 Год назад +2

      @@jacquelinegeorget-vachon3933 yes but we are not deaf and blind

  • @missmelody6185
    @missmelody6185 Год назад +8

    I love how the defense just bold faced lied when they said that George didn't like his family and was trying to get away from them. Meanwhile, George tells Angela that he wants her, Jake, the kids, and him to all move out west together. That defense opening statement was so ridiculous that it's comical.

  • @TaharkahX
    @TaharkahX Год назад +11

    The screaming is a bit much for me. I turned the volume way down. Can you imagine being in a room with the whole family? 😬

    • @candylang5918
      @candylang5918 Год назад +2

      I couldn't even understand what they were saying.

  • @natski2403
    @natski2403 Год назад +16

    How could ANYONE say he wasn't part of this? They clearly did everything together.

    • @LCx829
      @LCx829 Год назад +4

      Exactly 😂 seriously if George could still breastfeed his mother he would. 😅

  • @zealousblatancy536
    @zealousblatancy536 Год назад +25

    I was extremely excited about watching this trial and somehow it’s become the most boring trial.

    • @thelmakitty11
      @thelmakitty11 Год назад +4

      It would'nt have been boring if we could've heard Jake and Angela's testimony..:( still angry about that) Ha

  • @christagarrison3719
    @christagarrison3719 Год назад +13

    It's called dead weight for a reason. I really don't think little scrawny Jake could move 2 bodies alone and if Billy's back wasn't hurting he's probably too lazy anyway. I'd bet the farm that George sure could though!

    • @missmelody6185
      @missmelody6185 Год назад +2

      Jake said that George is "strong as a bull ox."

  • @uneedasims1266
    @uneedasims1266 Год назад +7

    That defense witness was a waste.

  • @racheljenkins4800
    @racheljenkins4800 Год назад +14

    No wonder Jake lost it, all the high pitch roaring and shouting from Ma and Georgie boy😱

    • @l.g.4075
      @l.g.4075 Год назад

      Right!! He probably confessed to get away from those lunatics.

  • @katherinefailor1633
    @katherinefailor1633 Год назад +2

    My Lord, he’s gonna have an aneurysm. Jake seems to be the most sane one in this family.😮

  • @sandife4nandes365
    @sandife4nandes365 Год назад +16

    Great cross by the prosecution!

  • @dixiechicken1969
    @dixiechicken1969 Год назад +3

    .5 speed makes a huge difference in understanding what they are saying. Praying for that guilty verdict 🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡

  • @ravens411rock
    @ravens411rock Год назад +6

    Watch the stenographer! She has probably worked with that same judge for thirty years! She is so annoyed by all this crap! Love to hear from her! Take the plea and save Ohio millions!!!!!!!!!

  • @regineuhe6657
    @regineuhe6657 Год назад +13

    Very good cross, so well prepared for this stubborn witness. He can't ever admit he's come to strange conclusions. That blood spatter expert just put his head in the sand at some point, practically saying as long as things could have happened the way he says, he won't change his opinion, no matter what. It's crazy. He's really hurting his reputation with these absurd findings, especially alleging Chris could have been badly injured outside, then ran and opened that door (without a handle) without the smallest drop or smear of blood anywhere near. Then he says he did not see the shoes, so he can't agree with the other expert that the shoeprints were of different sizes. This is insane stuff. I feel sad for him.

    • @mmpressed77
      @mmpressed77 Год назад +7

      We are watching the epitome of a narcissist...

    • @doctordoctor7813
      @doctordoctor7813 Год назад +3

      Some “expert”! 🙄 ridiculous!!

    • @christagarrison3719
      @christagarrison3719 Год назад

      Yes! Very good job!

    • @BH-1964
      @BH-1964 Год назад +4

      Not being aware of a baby between its dead parents in scene 2 and not remembering the primary target of these shootings name (Hannah Mae) was unexcusable! negligent at best

    • @janethosler9815
      @janethosler9815 Год назад +2

      It's like he is not admitting the truth. I feel like he may have been paid off by the defense.

  • @gailcullinan349
    @gailcullinan349 Год назад +9

    The Renoldo in live chat. Yes Angela is a gaslighting narcissistic personality and solely to blame for the demise of her family and destruction of their personalities. Did you see this comment Angela Wagner, I certainly hope so. Have fun trying to take charge of your fellow inmates.

    • @CDMButterfly
      @CDMButterfly Год назад

      Angela reminds me of my narcissistic mother. The blood spatter guy is the worst. After this, why would anyone want him to be a teacher on this subject? He is useless here and is teaching people the wrong way to analyze. Love the prosecutor's tone when cross examining him, just a touch of condescension. Yes! Hope it's his last "expert" court appearance.

  • @lindaallen230
    @lindaallen230 Год назад +2

    The attorney needs to get to a microphone that works. Can hardly hear him speak.

  • @gailcullinan349
    @gailcullinan349 Год назад +5

    So day 42 resumes on Monday .which will not be a trial day Have a nice weekend George, what are your plans for the weekend?

  • @ragaraga8732
    @ragaraga8732 Год назад +11

    he didnt know there was a baby between the couple..amazing..did he read the police report?

  • @ciarajackson9862
    @ciarajackson9862 Год назад +2

    It probably would have helped if Angela knew the law before she started telling Rita how it would be & when she can ask for an attorney

  • @uneedasims1266
    @uneedasims1266 Год назад +5

    I need an interpreter

  • @heather3383
    @heather3383 Год назад +1

    The forum has changed since yesterday!!

  • @jokelly1880
    @jokelly1880 Год назад +9

    ​From @Addi in live chat today: "So basically what many were asking was for our network to be available on youtube! So we have it now, it's called our Primetime Channel. but the RAW trial feeds will always be free".

    • @hannahe7556
      @hannahe7556 Год назад +2

      Thanks Jo I didn’t understand what everyone was talking about because I don’t have to pay to watch…
      By any chance do you know what the difference between the network and the raw live feed is? Is the network like a 24 news channel type thing were they talk about the trials during the breaks and stuff?

  • @TheScratchingKiwi
    @TheScratchingKiwi Год назад +1

    Frankly, the audio is so bad that the transcripts need to be available during deliberation. It's almost incomprehensible.

  • @christagarrison3719
    @christagarrison3719 Год назад +4

    They call this clown an expert? No comparison to BCI's firearm expert or the coroner who testified

  • @gailcullinan349
    @gailcullinan349 Год назад +2

    Dear George, yes its me again and I hope that you will one day see all these comments. You have so much time on your hands, why not take elocution classes and voice training and try to do something to improve yourself. It might even improve your poor self-worth, who knows, but its worth a try. You could take these classes during off time from digging on the chain gang, or what does Granny dearest suggest? She could also join the elocution classes.

  • @JanetH.215
    @JanetH.215 Год назад

    What was that recording at approx 4:24:00 ?

  • @marianmain
    @marianmain Год назад +5

    Oof… Prosecution made mincemeat of the spatter “expert.” If I was being taught by him, I’d request a transfer.

  • @natashaprice1910
    @natashaprice1910 Год назад

    Why cant i see the photos? We seen most some of them

  • @Kay-fv7cw
    @Kay-fv7cw Год назад +3

    WCPO 9 is live streaming.

  • @jeannieharris9055
    @jeannieharris9055 Год назад +3

    I am having a hard time believing that this guy is testifying for the defense! I guess that you can pay people to say anything.

  • @XenaWarrior95
    @XenaWarrior95 Год назад +2

    Why does he have to get in her personal space

  • @ketawebb5955
    @ketawebb5955 Год назад +1

    That is so hard to understand

    • @dawncottrell7325
      @dawncottrell7325 Год назад

      Go to the RUclips channel Pretty Lies and Alibies with Gigi... She reads the wiretaps and has been reading notes from the court room to you...
      That is the only way I can understand the wiretaps...

  • @harrickvharrick3957
    @harrickvharrick3957 Год назад

    Why you would start broadcasts like this an hour to early is beyond me

  • @ISHAUNSMOM
    @ISHAUNSMOM Год назад +3

    The Prosecutor put on a show today.

    • @AeroLisa
      @AeroLisa Год назад

      Andrew was great today!!

    • @brg2743
      @brg2743 Год назад

      He was nasty. If you have to belittle someone it's wrong. Facts are facts and jury folk are smart enough to see that.

  • @gemini6232
    @gemini6232 Год назад +5

    Why is their no Live Chat?

    • @schemmelm1
      @schemmelm1 Год назад

      They turn it off after the live video is over

    • @gemini6232
      @gemini6232 Год назад

      @@schemmelm1 Thanks! :)

    • @hannahe7556
      @hannahe7556 Год назад +1

      There is, the live chat is available you can turn it on, it should be near the description for you. If you are on your phone come out of the comments and it’s beside the like button 👍🏻

  • @carolyngreving5044
    @carolyngreving5044 Год назад

    I haven't followed but either I had. Is he the only one being tried? Why did he do it

  • @Karina-qd6ri
    @Karina-qd6ri Год назад +1

    I wondered where the comments were

  • @ragaraga8732
    @ragaraga8732 Год назад +2

    that defence guy appears he was just lazy in his investigation..OR he is deliberately leaving evidence out?..How can he be trusted?

  • @angielennex4654
    @angielennex4654 Год назад +4

    What’s the argument about light reflection….how has this have anything to do with this

    • @missmelody6185
      @missmelody6185 Год назад

      Jake said he saw a flash of light inside of Kenneth's house, as Billy shot him.

  • @alyciaesposito9013
    @alyciaesposito9013 Год назад +1

    I’ve never had to pay to watch?

    • @aheineman9138
      @aheineman9138 Год назад

      I’m watching right now-just like normal. No charge. Maybe there was a momentary glitch? Try again.

  • @jaquzee8539
    @jaquzee8539 Год назад +1

    Well back home but I’m going to back up to after lunch

  • @SubzeroCage
    @SubzeroCage Год назад +1

    why are all the trials pay to watch now wtf

  • @rconn1965
    @rconn1965 Год назад

    He's like trying nail jello to the wall

  • @silentowlscribe
    @silentowlscribe Год назад +3

    Live stream is $1.99 per month through RUclips. Seemed so sudden. It is a business I know and the price is good, but I don't care that much about it to pay.

    • @aheineman9138
      @aheineman9138 Год назад +3

      I’m watching right now-just like normal. No charge. Maybe there was a momentary glitch? Try again.

    • @hannahe7556
      @hannahe7556 Год назад +1

      Wait what when did this happen? I was watching earlier and didn’t have to pay and right now?

    • @aheineman9138
      @aheineman9138 Год назад +1

      @@hannahe7556 It’s all good. No changes, no fee. Some ppl had some problems earlier. Probably some glitch.

  • @coloneldax8143
    @coloneldax8143 Год назад +4

    I'm surprised the Wagner's didn't shoot each other

  • @denitayoungblood2347
    @denitayoungblood2347 Год назад +1

    Bam Go Parker

  • @heatherann1560
    @heatherann1560 Год назад +2

    Do we have to pay now to watch court cases live on here now?

    • @carrie2945
      @carrie2945 Год назад +3

      If so they got me messed up it’s so many other streams of this trial 😂

    • @heatherann1560
      @heatherann1560 Год назад +2

      @@carrie2945 I tried to watch it and it's says I have to pay 1.99 to watch the next live of this this is ridiculous

    • @jaquzee8539
      @jaquzee8539 Год назад +2

      I’ve never had to pay Additional explained today that isn’t L&C

    • @heatherann1560
      @heatherann1560 Год назад +1

      @@jaquzee8539 to watch it live you have to pay now it wasn't like that earlier and it is L&C what are you talking about?

    • @aheineman9138
      @aheineman9138 Год назад

      I’m watching right now-just like normal. No charge. Maybe there was a momentary glitch?

  • @jmb9377
    @jmb9377 Год назад

    i refuse to pay for anything! including tv, movies, and utilities! i’m being kicked out of my home! the city i live in is suing me for throwing my trash in the gutter! well you know what belongs in the gutter? paying to watch things!

  • @ravens411rock
    @ravens411rock Год назад

    the defense is dyeing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would rather dig a ditch! Poor guys. If your client was not guilty!

  • @christavanzyl6378
    @christavanzyl6378 Год назад +7

    George Wagner IV appeared intensly pained, closing his eyes, as if not wanting to see or hear what is being presented. So horriby sad 😥

    • @maureenkent2565
      @maureenkent2565 Год назад +3

      I must’ve missed this. Do you recall what the appropriate timestamp is where you saw his reaction?

  • @uneedasims1266
    @uneedasims1266 Год назад +2

    I hate to see what the family meeting goes like. All this screaming and hollering these two are doing. Geesh they soooooo deep country sounding. To look at them they look so low key. But they pretty rowdy. Lawdxx

    • @Kay-fv7cw
      @Kay-fv7cw Год назад +2

      Tabitha did testify that they were loud and arguing with each other. I had to skip forward, it was giving me a headache. 🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @uneedasims1266
      @uneedasims1266 Год назад

      @@Kay-fv7cw me to. I waited for Franci to break it down. I couldn't understand most of what they were saying and none of it made sense.

  • @lwinch8777
    @lwinch8777 Год назад +3

    I’m really disappointed you have to pay to watch. These types of things should not require pay, it’s like you’re making money of off this tragedy when people just want answers.

    • @heatherann1560
      @heatherann1560 Год назад +3

      Why all of the sudden they are charging people to watch this? I was watching this earlier without a problem did something happen during the day that made them start charging or is it them being greedy?

    • @aheineman9138
      @aheineman9138 Год назад +1

      I’m watching right now-just like normal. No charge. Maybe there was a momentary glitch? Try again.

    • @lesleywatkins1172
      @lesleywatkins1172 Год назад

      @@heatherann1560 the annoying thing is they already get money from RUclips! Proper greed! I’m not paying that’s for sure!

    • @maryoleary899
      @maryoleary899 Год назад

      It’s money money money

    • @aheineman9138
      @aheineman9138 Год назад +1

      @@lesleywatkins1172 There’s no charge. It’s free. There was a glitch. Try again.

  • @inspector_clouseau1712
    @inspector_clouseau1712 Год назад +6

    Guess they want money now. No thanks

    • @heatherann1560
      @heatherann1560 Год назад

      I was like wth. Do you know where else I can watch this trial?

    • @pln3153
      @pln3153 Год назад +3

      @@heatherann1560 WCPO 9 RUclips channel

    • @heatherann1560
      @heatherann1560 Год назад

      @@pln3153 Thank you

    • @pln3153
      @pln3153 Год назад

      @@heatherann1560 You’re welcome!

    • @aheineman9138
      @aheineman9138 Год назад +2

      I’m watching like normal. No charge. Maybe there was a momentary glitch?

  • @whitebird803
    @whitebird803 Год назад +1

    I’ve noticed that regardless of the defense or prosecution there is a lot of creative manipulation of the evidence and data. It’s really a matter of who has the best story line and the emotional intelligence and courage of the jury.

  • @julikin8539
    @julikin8539 Год назад

    Say NO to knuckleheads wanting you to pay to watch.

  • @l.g.4075
    @l.g.4075 Год назад +1

    Oh God, back to the screaming

  • @elenjehovaniaco3729
    @elenjehovaniaco3729 Год назад

    Police take the hand of the left side for security workers, police kill my saints.
    Ezekiel 16 Proverbs 7 Apocalypse 18 Proverbs 6 bible

  • @katel6748
    @katel6748 Год назад +3

    Kaneppa is a TERRIBLE prosecutor. The umms uhhss long pauses drive me crazy.

  • @Deborah-qn7cw
    @Deborah-qn7cw Год назад +1

    The Wagners make Hillbillies look normal !

  • @joshroberts2333
    @joshroberts2333 Год назад +5

    Is Kaneppa new to this? Why is there a 45sec to 1-1/2mins between asking witness about each recording b and the playing of each recording. Why is she so slow? Pick up pace. Also, Defense atty’s are douches on objecting.

  • @lindseycamp1233
    @lindseycamp1233 Год назад +8

    I feel like the prosecution has done a terrible job a truly and directly connecting George to any of this.

    • @l.g.4075
      @l.g.4075 Год назад +5

      What trial have you been watching?

  • @michele6873
    @michele6873 Год назад +1

    Pay to watch? LOL

  • @ritawebster99
    @ritawebster99 Год назад

    🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡

  • @shelleygreen7839
    @shelleygreen7839 Год назад

    ?

  • @Hapavaan
    @Hapavaan Год назад

    This, "ummm, ummm...aaaand, iaaand" women prosecutor is trash.

  • @tauyah8769
    @tauyah8769 Год назад

    Demon