jim rutherford, people think he did well in pitts because of back to back cups, however, he left the penguins with nothing in doing so, and well, now the future doesnt look as good
Something that I think falls off the radar in the Kyle beach incident is that the players who helped cover it up and (according to some reports) even mocked him for it got *nothing* for their actions. That doesn't sit right with me at all especially since many of them are still in the league today
We have to keep in mind that given the mentality of the organization, the big stars of the franchise were highly catered to and no doubt lied to by the front office. While I'm not saying that they couldn’t have at least heard rumours about Beach, when someone is treating you like a King and others begin to say that your benefactors are not so great, it's reasonable to believe that they could be easily pursuaded to turn a blind eye and behave like they didn’t WANT to know, which is admittedly still quite a sorry excuse. I'm not saying that's good either, but it is understandable IMO.
As a hockey fan from Germany I actually saw Kyle Beach play here. My team is in the same league as Bad Tölz (where he played for when the picture was taken) and I always wondered what a former first round pick was doing in the 2nd German league since we rarely get any players who had a real chance of getting to the NHL. As I heard about his story it all made sense. I don’t even want to think about how many young players are out there who did not have the strength to talk about what happened to them.
The Fenton situation was so dumb, it just shows that you don't always have to listen to the fans. Especially since those moves he did are part of the reason the wild are currently 1st in the central division.
kyle beach cover up pisses me off..nhl or hawks org should pay him for years like the average length of an nhl career....but i really hope something is in the works for him..wish him well..nice video rob talks hockey
Nice use of the menu music from GoldenEye for N64, it actually works really well for the type of videos you do. Really enjoying what you put out, keep it up!
it's f*cking discusting how the Black Hawks threw aside the Beach case just to win a piece of silver, then burried it for the 10 years. They also recomended Aldrich as a good video coach And I thought hockey was the best sport on earth
The Blackhawks no. Bowman and his regime of pions yes. I'd also like to point out that Bowman sucked as a GM. He rode the cost tails of the former GM and only got the job because of his daddy.
Fenton wasn’t fired because of his trades. There was a ton of turmoil behind closed doors that was mostly caused by Fenton refusing to listen to his colleagues, trying to retain salary on Granlund and add more to the deal just for Fiala in return, and also sending Eriksson Ek and Kunin to the minors who were playing great just he could play Pontus Aberg and Anthony Bitetto. He also apparently threw tantrums every time news was leaked and threatened to fire basically everyone in the front office as a result. Just glad that era was short lived
Prior to this October, I looked at the stat sheet and saw that Kyle Beach was an 11th overall pick, yet never played a single NHL game. I thought to myself, what a bust. NOW it all makes sense as to WHY such a high draft pick never played an NHL game.
As a blackhawks fan… the Kyle beach incident absolutely disgusts me. When it happens in the league it’s awful but when it happens on the team you’ve spent your entire life cheering for it’s heartbreaking. It’s a big part of the reason I don’t really watch the sport I love anymore
@@Roof_Pizza 925,000=big number that could help a family that needs money, it's pretty simple actually. I remember hearing something along those lines at the time in one of The Hockey Guy's videos. Not 100% sure on that though since i cant seem to find any articles in regards to it. I might be thinking of a different player.
I hope Don Sweeney's drafting and asset management gets on here eventually. not on this one but in future ones. The entire 2015 draft, taking Trent Frederic in 2016 over Alex DeBrincat, letting Ondrej Kase go in free agency to splurge on bottom 6 scoring depth thats currently being outscored by Kase, etc, etc
Coming back two years from now to say that Tyler Myers has earned every penny from his 30 milly contract after losing another contract's worth off his lifespan from the Nashville Game 6 block.
The Blackhawks as a franchise, need to be hit with the book (the big book of "you'll lose years"), and everyone that assisted in the destruction of not just a prospect, but destroyed a young man's life. The equivalent to the death penalty, needs to be taken against the organization as a whole
I wonder if Pierre Dorion will be given the boot at some point this season. Before the season began, Dorion said publicly that the rebuild was over in Ottawa. Yet, so far this season it is evident that the rebuild is not done. The Senators are still nowhere close to competing for a playoff spot, even if they may be closer than they were last season.
Although Fenton was fired for his professional and stuff in the front office, I still would say the only good thing was signing Zucarello, all his trades haven’t panned out and his trades are not the reason the wild sit in first right now besides Zucarello, Rask has so many points because he gets paired with Kaprizov and Zucarello and they are the driving offensive line, you could hypothetically put anyone their and they will get a lot of points, the Coyle trade flopped and Fiala (although proven to be good) is streaky and honestly would rather still have Granlund on the team (cause I like him a lot on the Wild) most of what made the Wild successful today was actually Chuck Fletcher’s draft picks and Bill Guerins signings (cause his draft picks are still developing), he also drafted a complete bust in the first round in 2018 and had Matthew Boldy, I do not actually think Fenton would be a good GM if he still was the GM for the Wild today
I don't know. Frankly I think the Bruins gave up too much for Coyle in that trade. Coyle was coming off of three seasons of decreasing production. He had pretty much as high of a cap hit as you'd want to pay a 3rd line center. And you had Donato who was coming off of a single bad season but who had proven he could produce in the playoffs was on an entry deal so was cheap. And the Bruins gave up a sweetener. To me that deal was absurd. The Bruins then made it even worse by giving Coyle a big undeserved raise but even just as the deal stood I still think that was a good deal for the Wild. They got to take a swing at a prospect with high end upside, and they got to shave a bunch of cap and get an extra pick.
I’m wondering if Kyle Beach has some sort of case to sue the Blackhawks and the NHL for NEVER getting called up. If he had a solid career in the minors that warranted him getting promoted to the NHL but never was because of that incident, he might have a solid chance to sue for 10’s of millions+++. Might be difficult to prove but I’d like to see him try.
No, he really shouldn't but we live in a society where shitty people get rewarded. All you have to do is present the public incidents where he attempted to injure teammates and it should get tossed, and that's like 1% of his issues.
To not let the prospects prosper and sign vetarans over and over is the reason why I and many others started to hate Lou Lamareillo. Sure he had built a strong core over the years and many Devils fans have him to thank for some amazing moments. But in the end of his tenure with njd, he kept signing 40 year old veterans and not let our propsects a chance of growing into devils. He only postponed the eventual rebuild. Its why we are where we are today.
Perhaps I don''t know how it works at the pro level, but I still can't believe they didn't just fire the perv right away, and get someone else for film. Is "film guy" a position that important in the organization?
if i were a player, i'd pick up that jersey on the ice and get the team to sign it during an intermission and throw it over the glass to some random lucky kid during the next period. want to be an ungrateful/disrespectful fan? well, i'll give it away to some other fan who didn't just disrespect our team
Kyle beech never played in the NHL because he isn't an NHL caliber player. I feel bad for him for what happened in Chicago but don't try and make it seem like he's not in the NHL because of that. If he was good someone would sign him.
Can you name a GM who got FIRED?!
Peter Chiarelli
Me
@@jimbenning1512 shoutout to you
Marc Bergevin (a couple weeks ago)
jim rutherford, people think he did well in pitts because of back to back cups, however, he left the penguins with nothing in doing so, and well, now the future doesnt look as good
Something that I think falls off the radar in the Kyle beach incident is that the players who helped cover it up and (according to some reports) even mocked him for it got *nothing* for their actions. That doesn't sit right with me at all especially since many of them are still in the league today
And we can guess exactly which Hawks players they were.
@UCtEsTEQ-NzIS1I_K3zLYDcw lol no you fucking can't
We have to keep in mind that given the mentality of the organization, the big stars of the franchise were highly catered to and no doubt lied to by the front office. While I'm not saying that they couldn’t have at least heard rumours about Beach, when someone is treating you like a King and others begin to say that your benefactors are not so great, it's reasonable to believe that they could be easily pursuaded to turn a blind eye and behave like they didn’t WANT to know, which is admittedly still quite a sorry excuse. I'm not saying that's good either, but it is understandable IMO.
@@TheNighthawke502 yeah that's a very fair argument
@@smithryansmith which ones
Wow the N64 Goldeneye music was a stroke of genius Rob! Love your content my man - keep it up!
Don't forget the Delfino Plaza music.
He's always had that
As a hockey fan from Germany I actually saw Kyle Beach play here. My team is in the same league as Bad Tölz (where he played for when the picture was taken) and I always wondered what a former first round pick was doing in the 2nd German league since we rarely get any players who had a real chance of getting to the NHL.
As I heard about his story it all made sense. I don’t even want to think about how many young players are out there who did not have the strength to talk about what happened to them.
The Fenton situation was so dumb, it just shows that you don't always have to listen to the fans. Especially since those moves he did are part of the reason the wild are currently 1st in the central division.
Been a solid assistant Gm to Zito in Florida
i think there were some personal issues with him as well.
kyle beach cover up pisses me off..nhl or hawks org should pay him for years like the average length of an nhl career....but i really hope something is in the works for him..wish him well..nice video rob talks hockey
Nice use of the menu music from GoldenEye for N64, it actually works really well for the type of videos you do. Really enjoying what you put out, keep it up!
it's f*cking discusting how the Black Hawks threw aside the Beach case just to win a piece of silver, then burried it for the 10 years. They also recomended Aldrich as a good video coach
And I thought hockey was the best sport on earth
Sadly, it occurs everywhere. A business company will cover up things like that because they fear it will tarnish the company's legacy.
The Blackhawks no. Bowman and his regime of pions yes. I'd also like to point out that Bowman sucked as a GM. He rode the cost tails of the former GM and only got the job because of his daddy.
Fenton wasn’t fired because of his trades. There was a ton of turmoil behind closed doors that was mostly caused by Fenton refusing to listen to his colleagues, trying to retain salary on Granlund and add more to the deal just for Fiala in return, and also sending Eriksson Ek and Kunin to the minors who were playing great just he could play Pontus Aberg and Anthony Bitetto. He also apparently threw tantrums every time news was leaked and threatened to fire basically everyone in the front office as a result. Just glad that era was short lived
Great channel, keep up the hard work rob. You have an awesome extent of hockey knowledge, plus you make it entertaining to watch . Great job! 👍
Good video as always Rob!
Just wanted to say I love your content, Please keep up these awesome NHL videos! Got a new subscriber in me 🤘
Prior to this October, I looked at the stat sheet and saw that Kyle Beach was an 11th overall pick, yet never played a single NHL game. I thought to myself, what a bust. NOW it all makes sense as to WHY such a high draft pick never played an NHL game.
GM Gorton and Team Pres. Davidson getting fired for not being Yes-Men to Dolan’s antics after the Wilson incident
What happened to Kyle unreal. Any of the players, and staff that knew should have been charged with obstruction of justice and banned from playing
ikr it was so bad.
Shame that those Blackhawks teams will now be remembered for the terrible people in that front office more than Stanley Cups
Impeccable segue at 4:45
Not a Canucks fan, but Bruce, there it is. Jim [Rutherford], there he is.
I was never in the fire Jim Benning camp until his atrocious press conference about the Jake Virtanen scandals.
Fenton got fired for his horrendous attitude and lack of professionalism, not his trades
Resigning and being fired are completely different. Bowman should have been fired but the Hawks let him resign.
Haha that pic of Myers next to Gerbe is amazing!
Babe wake up RTH posted
Great vid
You’re video are awesome can’t wait for your next one👍😆
As a vancouver fan, I enjoyed this video.
As a blackhawks fan… the Kyle beach incident absolutely disgusts me. When it happens in the league it’s awful but when it happens on the team you’ve spent your entire life cheering for it’s heartbreaking. It’s a big part of the reason I don’t really watch the sport I love anymore
Boeser's deal isn't that great. And what's the deal with blowing a year off of his ELC? Good vid man.
They blew a year off of his ELC because he needed the money to help out his family
@@bighonkies LOL, show your math on that one.
@@Roof_Pizza 925,000=big number that could help a family that needs money, it's pretty simple actually.
I remember hearing something along those lines at the time in one of The Hockey Guy's videos. Not 100% sure on that though since i cant seem to find any articles in regards to it. I might be thinking of a different player.
@@bighonkies yeah i heard that story on vancouver sports radio. his father also has major health issues
Look at Dumo picking the jersey up off the ice, what a guy lol. I missed that frame the first time I watched this video
Wow posted 9 mins ago
Good vidéo man
That Boeser contract is wrong
Rob sounding like a president at the end of the vid
I hope Don Sweeney's drafting and asset management gets on here eventually. not on this one but in future ones. The entire 2015 draft, taking Trent Frederic in 2016 over Alex DeBrincat, letting Ondrej Kase go in free agency to splurge on bottom 6 scoring depth thats currently being outscored by Kase, etc, etc
Coming back two years from now to say that Tyler Myers has earned every penny from his 30 milly contract after losing another contract's worth off his lifespan from the Nashville Game 6 block.
The Blackhawks as a franchise, need to be hit with the book (the big book of "you'll lose years"), and everyone that assisted in the destruction of not just a prospect, but destroyed a young man's life. The equivalent to the death penalty, needs to be taken against the organization as a whole
As bad as Benning was, he wanted Glass, not Pettersson, I'm glad we didn't have Milbury or Snow.
3:00 I think you put the sides the wrong way
I wonder if Pierre Dorion will be given the boot at some point this season. Before the season began, Dorion said publicly that the rebuild was over in Ottawa. Yet, so far this season it is evident that the rebuild is not done. The Senators are still nowhere close to competing for a playoff spot, even if they may be closer than they were last season.
And now Dorion seem to be the most secure GM in the league. Time change
Roberto!
Wasn’t Peterson’s contract a 3 year deal
Although Fenton was fired for his professional and stuff in the front office, I still would say the only good thing was signing Zucarello, all his trades haven’t panned out and his trades are not the reason the wild sit in first right now besides Zucarello, Rask has so many points because he gets paired with Kaprizov and Zucarello and they are the driving offensive line, you could hypothetically put anyone their and they will get a lot of points, the Coyle trade flopped and Fiala (although proven to be good) is streaky and honestly would rather still have Granlund on the team (cause I like him a lot on the Wild) most of what made the Wild successful today was actually Chuck Fletcher’s draft picks and Bill Guerins signings (cause his draft picks are still developing), he also drafted a complete bust in the first round in 2018 and had Matthew Boldy, I do not actually think Fenton would be a good GM if he still was the GM for the Wild today
I don't know. Frankly I think the Bruins gave up too much for Coyle in that trade. Coyle was coming off of three seasons of decreasing production. He had pretty much as high of a cap hit as you'd want to pay a 3rd line center. And you had Donato who was coming off of a single bad season but who had proven he could produce in the playoffs was on an entry deal so was cheap. And the Bruins gave up a sweetener. To me that deal was absurd. The Bruins then made it even worse by giving Coyle a big undeserved raise but even just as the deal stood I still think that was a good deal for the Wild. They got to take a swing at a prospect with high end upside, and they got to shave a bunch of cap and get an extra pick.
I’m wondering if Kyle Beach has some sort of case to sue the Blackhawks and the NHL for NEVER getting called up. If he had a solid career in the minors that warranted him getting promoted to the NHL but never was because of that incident, he might have a solid chance to sue for 10’s of millions+++. Might be difficult to prove but I’d like to see him try.
No, he really shouldn't but we live in a society where shitty people get rewarded. All you have to do is present the public incidents where he attempted to injure teammates and it should get tossed, and that's like 1% of his issues.
To not let the prospects prosper and sign vetarans over and over is the reason why I and many others started to hate Lou Lamareillo. Sure he had built a strong core over the years and many Devils fans have him to thank for some amazing moments. But in the end of his tenure with njd, he kept signing 40 year old veterans and not let our propsects a chance of growing into devils. He only postponed the eventual rebuild. Its why we are where we are today.
Lol it seems like every highlight is teams scoring on Ottawa damnit!
Perhaps I don''t know how it works at the pro level, but I still can't believe they didn't just fire the perv right away, and get someone else for film. Is "film guy" a position that important in the organization?
Another thing about the free agency Thing is that they let so many good players go, Look at what they did with toffoli
Losing tanev was worse then losing toff
Then Toffoli goes to Montreal next offseason and rest is history.
if i were a player, i'd pick up that jersey on the ice and get the team to sign it during an intermission and throw it over the glass to some random lucky kid during the next period. want to be an ungrateful/disrespectful fan? well, i'll give it away to some other fan who didn't just disrespect our team
ngl the dahlen for linus karlsson trade was an w
Cmon I know it’s the coyotes but Chayka is not our current gm 5:15
Did you call him Kimbo Slice?
Neither Bowman or coach Q were fired.
They both resigned
Fiala was an easy trade though. I know i am biased since he played for my home town team HV71 but still. Easy trade.
Jolevi was mismanaged by the Canucks and is better than given credit for
hi rob
Oli was screwed up by coaching
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Yo sup
TOP 5 NHL’ers who couldve been a pro in another sport . DO IT
just gotta say, demko over rated
Kyle beech never played in the NHL because he isn't an NHL caliber player. I feel bad for him for what happened in Chicago but don't try and make it seem like he's not in the NHL because of that. If he was good someone would sign him.
If Beach was not good as you say . The Blackhawks would never bring him up from the minors for the playoff run . He was Blacklisted
5 goaltenders who should rightfully be the captain