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Eskimo Bowline Little More Secure Than the Bowline - How to Tie the Eskimo Bowline
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- Опубликовано: 2 апр 2018
- Eskimo Bowline Little More Secure Than the Bowline - How to Tie the Eskimo Bowline.
Although we consider that the Bowline is a very secure loop knot at the end of a rope. It is considered that the Eskimo Bowline is a little more secure as it is harder to shake loose when not under load. It would appear that the Eskimo is also more secure if the loop is stretched.
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Be rude to you?! lol
no one could be rude to you man! You're one of the clearest, cleanest and well-made "how to knot" guys on the web!
WE love you Johnny Debt!
Cheers for that mate!
According wikipedia, "The Eskimo bowline is best used in applications in which the loop will be stretched wide. In applications where the two legs of the loop are nearly parallel, a bowline is superior."
Thanks for posting these videos. There a great help beginner climber here.
If you are determined to hang off the side of a cliff............. DON'T trust me, get as much advice as possible! Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Nah thx for the video man
Love it, although I use the Kalmyk loop a bit more often because of the quick release option; just add a bight at the end
For quite some time, I have been using the Imitation Slipped Bowline, I just love the ease of tying and quick release: ruclips.net/video/-ZsPYA9aaGE/видео.html
Thanks for taking the time to show how to do these knots
Always a pleasure Tommy, have we chatted online before?
No I'm not sure how to do computers much but I like your videos.. I didn't do knots but making bullwhips I needed to learn Turks head and gaocho notts and found you.. I liked it. And now keep a few feet of paracord in my pocket to practice with wherever I go ..
Welcome to the dark side Tommy. If you are into bullwhips, maybe I can convince you to do a Cat of Nine Tails?
Clear and concise explanation and a good knot to use.
I always like it when the first comment is nice, a little nervous in case I messed the video up. Thanks!!!
Thanks, John, also it´s very easy to make a quick release version by feeding a bight at the end. Hugs!!
Glad that you liked it, yes I keep forgetting to do a slipped version of many knots, thanks for reminding me ;-)
Thanks, I really like this a lot more than the bowline! and so easy to make a quick release version but popping a bite through instead of the working end at the last joint
Yep, that certainly is another option, thanks for taking the time to leave a comment.
Thanks Johnny. I have found bowlines to be unreliable myself. I do use them but prefer the perfection loop. I used to tie my dog up up with a bowline but he got off twice. I thought i had a clever knot untying dog until i just caught the bowline falling apart. So much for the king of knots! More like the jester methinks.
It would seem that the Bowline is a little over rated. Strangely enough, one of my first and worst videos is the on the Bowline. I have just been and checked it and it has over 156K views. I wonder if it is more popular as it is a name that is readily banded about? Maybe also the old saying of the rabbit comes up through the hole...... also helped to popularise it? Yes, I have to say I also like the perfection loop, but the Zeppelin loop is a rising star for me. I think that video will be out shortly.
Johnny Debt I think the feature we often like, that it's always easy to undo, is indeed its undoing.
Although many use a bowline for making a loop (and find it a little unreliable) it is an essential knot that could save a life. A sailor ought to be able to tie a bowline around his chest one handed and even blindfolded so that when he is thrown a line from a moving ship he can quickly tie a loop around himself that won't cinch. The Eskimo knot is better for a loop, but it cannot be easily tied one handed without seeing.
Thanks for taking the time to share this information, I always love to hear about knots being used!
I know about 25 knots. You've raised a good point. I think it would be interesting to try and tie them all with eyes closed... just by feel alone.
Johnny,thanks for the Esquimo bowline
Glad you liked it. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Wow love this knot
I like that version of the bowline.
Where can i find that knife looks sturdy and better than others i lve looked at
That knife is a Myerchin and I would say it is the best folder I have ever had, You can find out more about it here: igkt-solent.co.uk/supplies/
Johnny Debt great thank you!
So just as the bowline has a cowboy alternative (bitter end outside of loop) so this eskimo bowline can also be tied in a cowboy alternate way. Is it a different knot that way? Does it have a name? I often think it advantageous to have the bitter end out of the loop where the action is likely to be. Have I just invented the Western Eskimo Bowline?
Very good as always !👏👏👏
Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
howdy you ol rascal .... i can tie the bowline but i always have to walk myself through it but i think this one will be better for me
I would wait just a little longer as I have done one on the Zeppelin Loop, which I believe is even more secure. Bear wants to know how BC is?
Tell Bear BC is adjusting well, took her for a short hike she don't like getting in cars for some reason but loved the hike.... i will check out the Zeppelin loop be looking forward to it my friend.
Hi Johnny thanks for some great videos👍🏻 what knot u recommend for tying a piece of rubber tube or bungee cord through a D-ring?
Try a constrictor knot
Cheers Mate!
Brilliant! Thank you.
Glad that you liked it, can I interest you in the Imitation Slipped Bowline?: ruclips.net/video/i1KSZfSGEPg/видео.html
Is there a way to do the eskimo bowline using a Marlin spike hitch?
One man (Boatsman) checked the Eskimo and bowline by crash device, and the result is the Eskimo knot is weaker than the bowline one, and holland bowline (with the end outside the loop) was better if it was ring permanent loading, than English bowline (we call the one when the end inside the loop).But it was with permanent loading. I'm from riussia where the knots make you. Thks.
same as Kalmyk just as the bite.
Dear Mr Debt, thanks so much for your most informative videos!
Pardon a digression, but is that knife the Myerchin Captain Pro? If so, could you kindly do a brief review; your expert views are deeply appreciated! Namaste from India n God Bless!
Hello India!!! I really do love that knife. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
One thing I noticed is that you can tie this in the 'speedy' way by doing the marlin spike in reverse. To tie a normal bowline you grab the standing end and to tie this eskimo bowline you grab the working end. hopefully that's clear...
As I learnt this knot, I did wonder if there was a quicker way. I can see that this one will be revised in the near future.
Thanks for taking the time to share this information, I always love to hear about knots being used! Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?
You're right. I discovered that by accident when I tried to tie a bowline using the marlinspike hitch method, did it upside down, and ended up with an eskimo bowline. I prefer it to the "rabbit down the hole" method. There is also a super speedy method of tying this loop around an object. It's called a Kalmyk knot.
Zeppelin Loop will be live later today, you may want to have a play with that one?
Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment!!!
I did it! I had to figure out the direction of the loop first.
I'm strictly a pupil, but have observed that some knots which may shake apart might be saved by incorporating a stopper knot on the working end...
Yes, you are very right about that!!! Some good knots are improved with a stopper knot or an additional tie off method. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
I am not so sure the Eskimo Bowline is as easy to untie as the regular Bowline as you made no mention of this aspect and while it may indeed be more secure, I think I prefer the Water Bowline which is also more secure and definitely ALSO always easy to untie. Thusly, the water bowline is the loop knot that I always use.
Yes, I think I would have to agree with you on that. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Thank you! I hope you are still alive and well.😀
Both mate, thanks for asking............... how about you?
I suppose you could make it more secure by locking it in the same way as you would in the Scott's locked bowline, not that I have put it into practice
There is nothing better than making and using stuff that you have made!!! Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Sorry, replied to the wrong comment................... back on track, yes, when security is paramount. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
On Cruiser forum yesterday there was a new bowline called half hitch bowline.
This is actually the 'anti' version of the #1010 Simple Bowline.
If you look closely, all of the tail maneuvers go in the opposite (anti) direction relative to the Simple (#1010) Bowline.
Which gives rise to the name 'Anti Bowline'.
There are 4 versions of this particular 'Anti Bowline'.
I note at 2:27 in your video, when you form the initial 'nipping loop' - you default to 'Z' chirality (ie right-hand twist).
It is equally valid to form a 'nipping loop' with 'S' chirality (ie left-hand twist).
At 3:29 you ended up with the tail inside the 'eye'.
Remember there are 4 different variations - each having either S or Z chirality and tail either inside the eye or tail outside of the eye.
I note in many of your videos that you tend to only show one side of the knot structure. You should flip it over to show the opposite side too.
You made the comment that the 'Eskimo Bowline' is more secure than the Simple (#1010) Bowline.
This is a dubious claim - because this particular 'Anti Bowline' isn't secure either.
Our Russian friends have laid claim to being the first to discover this eye knot - and like to refer to it as a 'Cossack knot'.
There is a 'slipped' version of the Anti Bowline which is also known by the name 'Kalmyk loop'.
Link: www.parusspb.ru/text/morskie_uzly.pdf (at illustration #97)
Its all in Russian - but the drawings are exceptionally good.
Mark Gommers, _New from Russia!_
*Kalmyk Knot on the Bight:*
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Hmm...I tried to "shake" the knot loose with no success. Why is it able to slip?
How about a cowboy eskimo knot ?
Is there such a thing?
Thought you had a hook for a hand for a minute.
I have a peg leg, made from whale bone. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?
My definition of a good knot is that it has to be easy to do in the field, easy to undo in the field, serves well the purpose it is intended for (period). Many of the channels I watched so far on knots don’t observe those three criteria unfortunately and therefore they continue to disappoint me.
mcitp mcitp
So far . . your channel is one of the best if not the best of them all.
I just did a bowline but went around the tree twice. Is there a name for that knot?
I would like to know more about your knofe.
The knife is a Myerchin, a really fantastic knife!!!
@@KnottingKnots Thank You
What’s a good knot for bungee cord?
What are you planning to do with it, jump?
An easier way is to form a bend just like you would do if you were preparing to tie a sheet bend, then with the working end finish the knot as you would do with the other rope with a sheet bend. Note, start with a bend not a loop. If you were an Inuit [Eskimo] you would do it this way to fasten a load as it enables the loop to be pulled fairly tight around the loaded object while keeping tension on the loaded object on the sled before completing and thus locking the knot. Supposedly this was observed by the Arctic explorer, Sir John Ross [1777 - 1856] and brought back on a Inuit sled, now in the basement of the Museum of Mankind, London. It seems to stand up more securely when securing those kind of loads to a sled than conventional bowlines would, and the Inuits should know. I don't as I havn't got a sled and never see snow where I live.
Further if the working end is bent back the way it comes from, then it forms a quick release and strengthens the tie.
If i understand you correctly, what you describe is not an eskimo bowline. All bowlines -- british, dutch or eskimo -- if capsized, will fall apart, meaning the loop is lost. If i understand *your* knot (tied like a sheet bend) then, if capsized, will form a noose known as a canadian jam knot.
@@martin.feuchtwanger You are most likely correct. All I know is the knot as found on the ancient sled that is in the basement of the Museum of Mankind, London, may need to be interpreted and seemed to work for the original [Eskimo ?] owner.😀
Very similar to the kalmyk..
Yes, the Kalmyk keeps rearing its head. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment, are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?
I've only really been getting into knots for the past couple months honestly. So far, most have been for practical use (camping, tying up tarps, and random things at home or in the yard).
The videos you have made are a great resource. Thanks so much!
From what I can tell, the Kalmyk is basically a slipped version of this knot. I'm no expert though/.
Yes, I think you're right!
Kalmyk video please, sir.
Still slippery when tied with paracord
Funny how some knots work better than others in different types of rope
This is Russian's Loop *Kossak's Knot !!!*
I do like to ensure that my information is correct. Are you able to direct me to where I can see if I have made an error in naming this knot?
They're not the same. If you slip the Eskimo bowline like is done with the Cossack knot, to make the slipped Kalmyk Loop, then, when you pull the slip free there will still be a knot in the rope, with whatever you tied it to still inside the knot. The Cossack is to the Eskimo bowline as the Cowboy bowline is to the regular bowline: after threading through the initial nipping loop, the working end is led the opposite way around the standing end before being brought through the nipping loop again.
Actually indeed the one in the video is the Cossack, not the Eskimo.
They seem like exactly the same knot - Cossack and Eskimo, an anti-bowline … with a slipped knot, it's known as Kalmyk loop (source: wikipedia and after studying and comparing both of them)
I say this also called an Inuit knot.
Yep, I think you are right. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Ahem, "Inuit" bowline if you please.
I remember once they were going to get rid of the term Fire Fighter, as it was considered too aggressive.
OMG.... I guess we need "Fire Whisperers"
@@KnottingKnots Hahaha, that was a good one! You can't open your eyes in the morning without offending anyone these days 😃
This is not the Eskimo bowline, see Ashleys book of knots for the correct way to tie this loop.
If anyone disagrees with me, then take it up with Ashley.......
Did you know that if you tie a bowline you can turn it into an eskimo bowline without undoing it and vices versa
No, I did not know that??? Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
It is indeed an Eskimo knot. As found tied on early sledges made by indigenous Arctic peoples. Their sledge were tied together to withstand the beating they took
This is a great knot and it is ludicrous for anybody to take offense at your terminology. . . .
In today's world, if use sneeze, you offend somebody. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?
Well I'm offended. I usually associate this term with a certain pie, knot a not.
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Mmmm, this is better £
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Does that mean something?
talk too much
I started a long time ago to "over explain" as I have one subscriber who is blind. He and his granddaughter follow the videos, he listens and she watches. He ties the knot and if he goes wrong his granddaughter corrects him. A lovely little bond must be growing between them?