I could see her clerics having healing spells too, but maybe modified. They could heal the wounds, stopping the bleeding, mending the skin, but the healed still suffer the pain of that wound (maybe for as long as it would have taken to heal typically through medicinal means). A live victim can continue to suffer from their former wounds or new ones, while a dead one's pain is gone.
My planned cleric of Loviatar's healing spells hit you with the pain of healing in rapid time + the pain you *would* have had healing it naturally, so you pay for the instant heal with double the pain :p
Great portrayal of the Goddess of Pain :) My current PC is a warforged cleric created by a now extinct Temple of Loviatar. His interest in pain and pleasure being how he learns about the world around him, and using it to help teach others.
I'm playing a follower of Loviatar. He is a Yuan-ti pureblood, the only one of his kind because born of an experiment. Since birth, he's been suffering because of diformities (mainly the scales partially covering his skin), but also psychological pain since he doesn't belong, he was created, and he looks different. He was raised in way of Loviatar, in the Chirch of the Scarlet Hooks, amongst other orphans he never managed to befriend. We are almost at the end of a 3 years long campaign, and now he is considering rejecting Loviatar. He believes he has suffered enough, and his traveling companions have shown him other ways. So now, he wants to help her change too...
@@FathersUnited-fu Haha, well, the final battle and end of campaign is in 3 weeks. But here is my expectations for him if he survives: - Bring his arcane focus back to the Church of the Scarlet Hooks (The focus is an artefact in the form of a cat-o-nine-tail) - Join the Religion of Ilmater instead (still a god of pain but kind of the opposite of Loviatar) - Build and manage an orphanage (since he was raised as one). - Also, I started the campaign with only offensive spells. And i'm planning on ending it with only support and healing spells.
I really like your artistic take on a lot of the characters, gods, etc! If you take requests, then I think it'd be awesome to see how you would depict Manshoon!
🎵Pain! You made me a, you made me a Believer, believer Pain! You break me down, you build me up Believer, believer Pain! Oh, let the bullets fly, oh, let them rain My life, my love, my drive, it came from… Pain! You made me a, you made me a Believer, believer 🎵 I imagine a Loviatar bard singing lol
In historical publications, the AD&D 2nd Edition-era "FR16 - The Shining South" contains details of Dambrath, an nation dominated (in more than one sense of the word!) by drow half-elf priestesses of Loviatar - this could be useful as inspiration for DMs/GMs. (This supplement also details Halruaa, a "non-evil" magocracy - a contrast to Thay - and Luiren, an nation of halflings.)
I'm planning on playing a Dhampir Conquest Paladin/Undead Warlock who had their arm cut off when they were turned into a vampire spawn. She accepted an offer to break free of the vampire's control by becoming a paladin of Loviatar, but in exchange, her phantom limb pain is made extreme, only able to be numbed by drinking blood. In her Form of Dread, she would slash with her phantom limb instead of biting.
Since I really enjoy your depiction of Loviatar, how would you flavor any healing abilities of a cleric or paladin of Loviatar? While it would seem out of character to heal, I still want to help heal my party. I had the idea of the pain numbs, but that seems closer to Ilmater to me.
@@tidaltorrent to me I would imagine the healing would feel like really cold ice, that kind of burning sensation because it’s so cold that it’s almost unbearable
Fun little fact about Loviatar: She, along with Mielikki, were actually brought over to the Forgotten Realms from planet Earth's Finnish pantheon, along with a host of other faiths like the Egyptian gods (The Mulhorandi pantheon), the Mesopotamian gods (The Untheric pantheon), the Norse gods (Who practically have a heaven all to themselves), the Celtic gods (Including Silvanus) and the Greek gods and many others. Some of these gods ended up joining together to form their own pantheons as they sought alliances with likeminded gods to not fade into obscurity. Mielikki and Silvanus get along swimmingly, for example, while Loviatar is as described here, getting along with Bane, Bhaal and Shar. In the Finnish pantheon, Loviatar is the blind daughter of the god of death. She gives birth to the Nine Deadly Diseases of the world: Rickets, Gout, Colic, Consumption, Ulcer, Scab, Cancer, Plague and finally Envy, who is banished from her realm to become the scourge of mankind.
She is tho! If you read her dogma, there are actually things like "Unswerving cruelty will turn all folk against you." and "Kindnesses are the best companions to hurts." in it, plus it's a lot about punishing those who hurt people for no good reason. So tbh, if I were to play a loviatan cleric, I'd lean into the inquisitor/executioner type of character. If you rephrase the dogma enough, some of her followers might even be Lawful Good by definition.
Amazing video! Great inspiration for a Cleric I'm making soon. I intend on making a LE Asmiar who was once a slave but became a follower of Loviatar. They are taken from their parents at a young age due to their divine nature and are brought into the clergy to raise them on Loviatars beliefs. They then grow up believing sadism and masichism are but the truest forms of devotion. Not only is pain the purpose for living but it is very reason why life continues. In combat they prioritize healing their allies so that their strife may continue or to ensure those deserving suffer through spells like bane/bestow curse. Still writing up the character, but this video really helped flesh out some character ideas for me.
Damn. Now I wanna make a cultish Hellraiser style campaign. The players have to escape from a planar prison after being kidnapped by a cult of Loviatar. The leaders of the cult are basically the cenobytes & the players have to do some questing & whatnot to kill the cenobytes so they can escape before being sacrificed to Loviatar. If/when they're captured, they get tortured instead of killed, softening them up for a planned ultimate sacrifice that would bring Loviatar or an Avatar of her to the Forgotten Realms.
@@itslegendlore also this just inspired me to make an armonite variant, called an anatomite. It rips off limbs. Also it has immunity to unconsciousness. It’s my favorite trait to give to demons.
I really enjoy your videos. I am a subscriber. You spoke waaay too quickly on this video. Honesty should deserve a pin or a reply unless you are unwilling to admit a serious flaw in this presentation.
Your picture is very nice, although i would say it looks little too much like a modern-day feminist. I feel like she should have a more feminine sexuality about her, given her domain and history with the game.
Lovitar's philosiphy of suffering making us grow reminds me of Miguel O'Hara from Across the Spider-Verse, I think you could easily model of a villain in her service after him.
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The cenobite goddess is something I'm very afraid of
I’m the opposite for me it’s an excellent dnd villain xP
Demon to some, Angel to others 👌
That’s part of the charm
I could see her clerics having healing spells too, but maybe modified. They could heal the wounds, stopping the bleeding, mending the skin, but the healed still suffer the pain of that wound (maybe for as long as it would have taken to heal typically through medicinal means). A live victim can continue to suffer from their former wounds or new ones, while a dead one's pain is gone.
My planned cleric of Loviatar's healing spells hit you with the pain of healing in rapid time + the pain you *would* have had healing it naturally, so you pay for the instant heal with double the pain :p
Great portrayal of the Goddess of Pain :)
My current PC is a warforged cleric created by a now extinct Temple of Loviatar. His interest in pain and pleasure being how he learns about the world around him, and using it to help teach others.
@@junglebat2139 that is super dope :D
I would really like that Loviatar and Ilmater met and how it would look like.
I'm playing a follower of Loviatar. He is a Yuan-ti pureblood, the only one of his kind because born of an experiment. Since birth, he's been suffering because of diformities (mainly the scales partially covering his skin), but also psychological pain since he doesn't belong, he was created, and he looks different. He was raised in way of Loviatar, in the Chirch of the Scarlet Hooks, amongst other orphans he never managed to befriend. We are almost at the end of a 3 years long campaign, and now he is considering rejecting Loviatar. He believes he has suffered enough, and his traveling companions have shown him other ways. So now, he wants to help her change too...
That’s pretty cool :)
What ended up happening? Don't leave us hanging like this 😢
@@FathersUnited-fu Haha, well, the final battle and end of campaign is in 3 weeks. But here is my expectations for him if he survives:
- Bring his arcane focus back to the Church of the Scarlet Hooks (The focus is an artefact in the form of a cat-o-nine-tail)
- Join the Religion of Ilmater instead (still a god of pain but kind of the opposite of Loviatar)
- Build and manage an orphanage (since he was raised as one).
- Also, I started the campaign with only offensive spells. And i'm planning on ending it with only support and healing spells.
You ain't have to draw her like that, I'm about finna convert
Bruh 😂
Thank you for posting the classes and how each could go in following Loviatar, this is REALLY helpful for me!
Totally isnt trying to tap into the Matron of Sigil
"THOUGH SHALT NOT F_CK WITH THE LADY OF PAIN"
My new character is a follower of Loviatar, I figured it’d be the best way to play a dnd version of The Flagellant from Darkest Dungeon. 💪😤
Honestly that’s not far off at all :) good choice!
@@itslegendlore thank you for the useful information! Keep up the good work, boss. 🔥
@@KingMadDog7 thank you so much!
I really like your artistic take on a lot of the characters, gods, etc! If you take requests, then I think it'd be awesome to see how you would depict Manshoon!
I’ll put them in the list for people to vote :) thank you so much!
🎵Pain! You made me a, you made me a
Believer, believer
Pain! You break me down, you build me up
Believer, believer
Pain! Oh, let the bullets fly, oh, let them rain
My life, my love, my drive, it came from…
Pain! You made me a, you made me a
Believer, believer 🎵
I imagine a Loviatar bard singing lol
In historical publications, the AD&D 2nd Edition-era "FR16 - The Shining South" contains details of Dambrath, an nation dominated (in more than one sense of the word!) by drow half-elf priestesses of Loviatar - this could be useful as inspiration for DMs/GMs.
(This supplement also details Halruaa, a "non-evil" magocracy - a contrast to Thay - and Luiren, an nation of halflings.)
Incredible artwork and story telling! Thanks for the video!
Thank you so much!
I'm planning on playing a Dhampir Conquest Paladin/Undead Warlock who had their arm cut off when they were turned into a vampire spawn. She accepted an offer to break free of the vampire's control by becoming a paladin of Loviatar, but in exchange, her phantom limb pain is made extreme, only able to be numbed by drinking blood. In her Form of Dread, she would slash with her phantom limb instead of biting.
Since I really enjoy your depiction of Loviatar, how would you flavor any healing abilities of a cleric or paladin of Loviatar? While it would seem out of character to heal, I still want to help heal my party. I had the idea of the pain numbs, but that seems closer to Ilmater to me.
@@tidaltorrent to me I would imagine the healing would feel like really cold ice, that kind of burning sensation because it’s so cold that it’s almost unbearable
Fun little fact about Loviatar: She, along with Mielikki, were actually brought over to the Forgotten Realms from planet Earth's Finnish pantheon, along with a host of other faiths like the Egyptian gods (The Mulhorandi pantheon), the Mesopotamian gods (The Untheric pantheon), the Norse gods (Who practically have a heaven all to themselves), the Celtic gods (Including Silvanus) and the Greek gods and many others. Some of these gods ended up joining together to form their own pantheons as they sought alliances with likeminded gods to not fade into obscurity. Mielikki and Silvanus get along swimmingly, for example, while Loviatar is as described here, getting along with Bane, Bhaal and Shar.
In the Finnish pantheon, Loviatar is the blind daughter of the god of death. She gives birth to the Nine Deadly Diseases of the world: Rickets, Gout, Colic, Consumption, Ulcer, Scab, Cancer, Plague and finally Envy, who is banished from her realm to become the scourge of mankind.
loviatar strikes me as a godess thats not strictly evil i got her blessing in baldurs gate 3 because why not? XD
She is tho! If you read her dogma, there are actually things like "Unswerving cruelty will turn all folk against you." and "Kindnesses are the best companions to hurts." in it, plus it's a lot about punishing those who hurt people for no good reason. So tbh, if I were to play a loviatan cleric, I'd lean into the inquisitor/executioner type of character. If you rephrase the dogma enough, some of her followers might even be Lawful Good by definition.
Amazing video! Great inspiration for a Cleric I'm making soon. I intend on making a LE Asmiar who was once a slave but became a follower of Loviatar. They are taken from their parents at a young age due to their divine nature and are brought into the clergy to raise them on Loviatars beliefs. They then grow up believing sadism and masichism are but the truest forms of devotion. Not only is pain the purpose for living but it is very reason why life continues. In combat they prioritize healing their allies so that their strife may continue or to ensure those deserving suffer through spells like bane/bestow curse. Still writing up the character, but this video really helped flesh out some character ideas for me.
How'd the character turn out?
“I can fix her.”
Damn. Now I wanna make a cultish Hellraiser style campaign. The players have to escape from a planar prison after being kidnapped by a cult of Loviatar. The leaders of the cult are basically the cenobytes & the players have to do some questing & whatnot to kill the cenobytes so they can escape before being sacrificed to Loviatar. If/when they're captured, they get tortured instead of killed, softening them up for a planned ultimate sacrifice that would bring Loviatar or an Avatar of her to the Forgotten Realms.
Love it 😎
My husband and I made my cleric for her a life cleric, simply beflcause you wanna keep them alive to make them hurt longer.
Love it xD
She's my third favorite below Vhaeraun and Kiaransalee.
In a modern setting she'd be the goddess of lifters and gymfluencers
How does a lady become a maiden? Is she born again?
❤❤❤😮😮😮
I plan on using her as the goddess for the cult my party has to kill - She’s so cool
Ultimate dommy mommy
Sooo a dominatrix??
Who are you?
Explorers in the furthest regions of experience demons to some angels to others
Oh no tears please its a waste of good suffering
I’m Forty seconds In, and I think she died right? Good video though.
Forty seconds in?
@@itslegendlore also this just inspired me to make an armonite variant, called an anatomite. It rips off limbs. Also it has immunity to unconsciousness. It’s my favorite trait to give to demons.
@@leadstomach9397 yesssssss
I really enjoy your videos. I am a subscriber. You spoke waaay too quickly on this video. Honesty should deserve a pin or a reply unless you are unwilling to admit a serious flaw in this presentation.
Yeah the fast talking is something I’m working on xD that and the low volume
@@itslegendlore Word bro I believe in you. It's only going to get better. You got the talent. I look forward to your next drop.
Your picture is very nice, although i would say it looks little too much like a modern-day feminist. I feel like she should have a more feminine sexuality about her, given her domain and history with the game.
Lovitar's philosiphy of suffering making us grow reminds me of Miguel O'Hara from Across the Spider-Verse, I think you could easily model of a villain in her service after him.
oh definitely! that'd be a pretty cool idea :)