THE ORANGE HILLS OF ROSSNOWLAGH, DONEGAL!
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- I take you inside the Orange parade in Rossnowlagh, Co. Donegal, annual since 1978.
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Shot on an iPhone 6 and a £7 tripod, edited on Windows Movie Maker.
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Further proof that the unionists have nothing to fear from a United Ireland. Their rights and traditions will be respected and protected just as they are now in the Irish Republic.
The simple fact is the 6 counties do not belong to the uk
@Jatham Kwest N.I can leave UK if a majority vote for it with Brexit it makes this coming about sooner according to historians political experts.
Brian John, this really shows how disrespectful orange men and their culture are to Ireland as the Irish flag was nowhere to be seen. It's presence is also conspicuous by it's absence at the new orange heritage site. What the march in Donegal must really signify is protestant planter yearning for the days of British control in all of Ireland. Why would they fly a foreign flag here and not also fly the tri colour along with it? Time orange men actually showed some of the humility and respect they are always preaching about.
Seems a bit hypocritical that they want to march in a country they claim to hate.
The parade is in the Province of Ulster (Donegal), and wherever did you see or read the OO hates Donegal or the Republic.
Lines were drawn on a map cutting off Protestant Donegal from the uk tbh
@@ononewheelladwell said fella the order loves Donegal
Cén sórt teanga an bhfuil sin?
@@fionndoc5206 am of Presbyterian Donegal stock and whilst no orangeman my family had to leave the south on partition
As an Ulster Irishman who has lived most of his life in the United States, I was saddened at the comment about there "being no shortage of Union flags" at the Rossnowlagh parade. Fair enough. However, the shortage was about the Irish national flag. In the US (and in Canada), it would be unthinkable not to carry the national flag along with whatever foreign flags an organization wanted to carry. So on Greek day, the US or Canadian flag typically flies on the right of the formation, and the Greek flag next to it, and so on for all the nationalities who have their events marked by parades and other events. I don't think it is required by law, but it is done as a courtesy both to the US flag and to the country on whose soil the parade is being held. I didn't see a single Irish Tricolour, even with the Lodges from the Republic. I wonder if this reflects lack of awareness or outright bias against the country which provides the freedom to parade without hindrance? If the latter, it is sad we haven't come a good bit further than that.
Right on Joe , agree completely .I was in a pub in Chicago years ago I overheard this woman say she was from N.I & her husband's name was Wicklow, never heard the name before or since that's why I remembered it
u r right on
Orange lot are nasty bigots who are descendants from rapists and murders of the peep day ol boys of the 1790s who murdered many innocent Catholics in Ireland.
You are joking Joseph Wicklow, this Orange parade is taking place in ROI as you know, where all are respected. You won't see any rioting against this parade. Nr Ireland is a different kettle of fish, if you're seen with an Irish Tricolour you would be charged with intimidation while the Orangemen and supporters would start the mother of all riots. Majority are brainwashed from cradle to the grave.
This is true, if you watch the orange parades in Toronto, there's always Canadian flags.
The only national flag on these islands which represents the orange culture is missing, the Irish tricolour of green white and orange.
These people really have their anti Irish bigotry out of control.
Orange Order were formed by deplorable men called the peep day ol boys in 1795 and were one of the reasons the United Irishmen were put down in 1798 and 1803.
Our flag is the union jack
They are Irish
@@loyalwestbriton5410 to some Irish people
@@loyalwestbriton5410 no it isn’t get out of Ireland
its strange to hear an orange order member with a dublin accent
We were once the majority in Dublin.
@@Ben501uk there was once rules in many irish towns against catholics living inside the walls.
So strange!
he is on his own, Muppet he is
@@6Tghma There's a lot more of us than you think, you are the muppet.
They are longing for the days when they ran the show all over Ireland. Those days are gone forever.
My cousin is a garda officer who has been on patrol there. He said the people who go tend to be respectable and not bitter. They have been gracious and polite in their dealings with him.
Because they know that it wouldn't be tolerated.
Whether you're Catholic or Protestant this looks really boring.
I know right... I find parades mind numbingly boring even with floats they are still boring.
Lol ,didnt take you long to shut George down at 6:00 when he was spouting the usual anti-Catholic bigotry about "Popery",go back to your Orange ghetto in Belfast George ,the Republic is light years ahead of the neanderthals of North Belfast ,it might do you good to live in the Republic for a few years to see what a proper civilised country looks like.
delivery from slavery and religous liberty for all he must of never heard of the penal laws
bouse23 what the laws that banned Presbyterians from holding office and bearing arms I bet you didn’t no it was made to stop dissenters not catholic’s from attempting another United Irishmen rebellion Catholics were classed as non church of Ireland so were classed as the same as Presbyterians. Twat
Alan Collins Many Presbyterians abandoned Republicans after 1798.
Donegal to rejoin the UK? it is part of Ulster after all.
@@the_red_barron1002 only 2 3rds of ulster is under British rule, so your point is?
Which one is the imperial wizard?
Wow - it's the Benny Hill show. Except, not as politically astute as Benny.
Is this the same Mr Chittock who warned protestants not to learn Irish?! If he is so adamant they're marching for civil and religious liberty "FOR ALL", when is he going to open up the OO for Roman Catholics to express their joy at their liberties? We can all have a great day out at the seaside; I've been to Rossnowlagh lots of times but I don't need a triumphalist sectarian march to enjoy myself. Don't need to drag my wife and kids into sectarianism either. We should be challenging sectarianism, not indulging it or making it out to be all just a bit of fun. Sure it's a great party and everyone's invited. As long as you're not Catholic.
@Newco FLO And do away with the secterian bigoted Orange Order and IRA and UVF memorials
Kkk of ireland
Agree
Jesus christ that song was so fucking annoying you really had to play the same thing for the whole video? Seeing and hearing God save the queen played in the Republic is fairly disgusting
Great to see. Nice to see both traditions in Ireland respecting each other.
Notice that this is in the republic. It's not like that in the north.
This is the Republic, in the north unionists go into nationalist areas to provoke nationalists leading to violence.
The orange man clam to be English, but at an English man my self i would class you as irish.
I'm thinking of doing a similar VLOG on Hibernian parades with tricolours, etc., and a PSNI escort through loyalist areas where those of the other community express their civic and religious liberties with the cooperation and tolerance of the local loyalist community in a similar way to how they are accommodated here. Could you please tell me where I could find such marches?
Hibernian parades aren’t a prominent aspect of nationalist culture the way orange parades are.
Those nationalists area you speak of were once unionist or shared areas, hence the term “traditional route”. Unfortunately nationalists can’t tolerate/stomach an Orange procession. And, contrary to the media, if you’ve actually seen or attended a number of orange parades and know the paraders you’d know that they’re not the thugs that the media and Republican movement want you to believe them to be.
@@BrianJohnSpencer I loved the video, and much of what you say and write is true. I look forward to the day when these parades can take place all across Ireland in a spirit of cultural celebration for all. The Unionist people have been in Ireland for three centuries and more, and it is right that they should celebrate their unique culture unmolested and without ridicule. The key point, of course, is context. The assertion that "nationalists can't stomach a loyalist parade" is not a little contradicted by your own video, but of course its down to context. Rossknowlagh takes place in the Irish Republic, where the triumphalist sting has been drawn from the parades. In Belfast and other places, the triumphalist aspect is still central, with the element of keeping the croppies in their place still a key dynamic and instinct of the parades (hence the marking time in front of Catholic churches and other such unfortunate manifestations of this dynamic). Rossknowlagh is exactly as it should be, and as you point out, in a spirit of enjoyment and tolerance for all. Speaking of tolerance for all, you might want to put one of your interviewees right on his understanding of tolerance under King William. William unfortunately didn't stand for tolerance for all, quite the reverse. Which, for a gay man, was particularly shameful and unfortunate. Great video, though, and a great message. 👍
@Sean MacCartan King Williams own draft of tbe treaty of Limerick included completely untampered freedom of religion for all. parliaments ended up ignoring it, King Williams dutch Republic was a bastion of religious tolerance back then
@@BrianJohnSpencer you might have missed the point slightly mate..
He’s pointing out the fact that they have the right to March (which they do) and are facilitated (rightly) in The republic with zero antagonism and zero hostility.
I sincerely doubt that parity of esteem and mutual respect would be shown by certain members of the community in the North…
Unionists (not all to be fair) do tend to have a cold shoulder for the South / republic whatever name you choose, and yet here you are celebrating your culture openly and freely in the same land that you seem to despise and mistrust 🤔
It’s bizarre to me. But with respect, the numbers now don’t lie, so you’ll be part of a New Ireland in due course and your rights to be British / parade etc, will continue to be respected.
Good luck to you.
Wow this is just incredible. I'd have no problem if this was happening down the road from me if it was like this one. It's official lads. There's no eejits in Donegal by the looks of this.
@Mars pathfinder How is it the boys up in the north can't conduct themselves the way that these guys do. These orange men are the real deal. They're decent respectful people.
@Mars pathfinder I think it's respect that's the big thing that's missing. In the north the orangemen marching don't have respect for the Catholic communities they're marching through and the Catholics don't have respect for the orangemen either where as in the parade in this video it appears that the orangemen have a respect for other people regardless of their religion and the local people respect the march. The way I look at the orange marches as a nationalist Catholic living in the republic is much the same way I view st. Patricks day parades. Just as st.patricks day parades celebrate Catholics heritage and past the 12th of July parades celebrate protestants heritage and past.
Loved, loved, LOVED this video. I might go next year.
DIdnt know that there were orange order lodges in Republic of Ireland, because at the orange order museum in Belfast it has all the flags of countries where there are orange order lodges on polls outside it, it has the Canadian, American flags among others but no tricolor. Wonder why?
It really doesn't take a brain surgeon to work out why. The Irish tricolour has a major association with Sinn Fein and the IRA. Do you really expect the Orange Order to carry out republican appeasement?
So you comment on a video where the orange order have been marching in the Republic of Ireland (whos flag is the tricolour) for quite some time very welcomed, no trouble. (OO also get huge grants aswell from the Irish government) yet any acknowlegdment of anything Irish in your mind is some sort of pandering to a Republican agenda, I would say its respecting both cultures like the people of Rossnowlagh In ROI respected yours and will continue to do so but not an inchen, no surrender, yeah?
USA has never had an Orange Order they tried 1871 but they caused tensions with the Catholic population who chased them out of the city who by that had integrated into American society after fighting gallantly in the American Civil war on the Union side.
@Straight White British Protestant That flag is the flag of Ireland Unionists never recognised Ireland at first until it became a republic in 1937.
@@PrinceOfOrange1921 Why should SF/IRA do the same or Irish Nationalists so.
Very interesting.Irishness is big enough to include everyone -nice to see
Well done great videos
Brilliant video Brian.
My mammy taught me if you haven't anything nice to say then say anything...................................
Hiya Brian, I'm an activist and RUclipsr from Dundalk and really hoping to learn all about the Orange Order and some of the ways in which their civil liberties are being denied as well as the history of their Order and NI from their perspective. It's tough to discern good sources from bad when coming from an outside perspective, I'm at a bit of a loss tbh. Glad to have found your channel. What I'd really love is to have a chat with you, maybe leading to an interview with you for my channel. I've had a lot of requests from my international viewers about the subject and I don't think I'm anywhere near informed enough to give a clear history of the current landscape in NI without the perspective of one of its largest demographics. Please let me know if it's the kind of thing you might be interested in. Tara.
Sure thing. Let me know when you’re next in belfast. Email me at UlsterPainter@gmail.com
@@BrianJohnSpencer thanks a mill, I'll start planning to get the video together in the next month or two so 😊
People say they can't wait till these parades die out the same thing has been said for generations but it continues i say good on them it offends nobody unless you go out your way to be offended..
Ye that's right keep the hate going and call it a right and a traditional
I enjoyed that piece. Very interesting and shows how inter woven Ireland really is North and South.
These belfast lads just came in to donegal and start to do marches I am from donegal I am not happy go Back
to belfast
Fortunately, Rossnowlagh does not share your sentiments. The Orange Order has been made welcome here for well over 100 years.
@@soinbhe as someone from rossnowlagh, get them out ta fuck
why does this orange parade shit happen in rossnowlagh? donegal isnt northern ireland!! my little surf community have no clue why this goes on in rossnowlagh
Deep history on the matter not documented though
Great video brother, Carrickfergus!!!
I did see people drinking but it was only coors light … good to see orangemen dont recognise it as an alcoholic drink either haha one step closer to uniting the people.
I love the Orange Order. Keep these parades going.
Disgusting organisation they are
Dirty wankers promoting colonialism
good to see that the irish lodges can enjoy their day of celebrations.
They are from Norhern Ireland the Orange Order is non existent in the republic of Ireland.
Robert Kelly Not true.
great vid the way it should be looks peaceful great day out and maybe one year will give t a wee visit
great thanks
‘Clady night’ won’t allow comments (for some reason). The pair of ye look SO Irish. God bless and keep up the good work .
I loved this for most my life...feel sad now
Ah, the single Garda car. The lead car in most Paddy's day parades in small-town Ireland too.
simply brilliant you guys really put on a superb parade I hope you guys have a bigger one next year hats off guys well done xx
Brits out 🇮🇪☘
Feck the orange arse lickers
@@memyself800 out t'fuck 🇮🇪🇮🇪
Isn't the childish tribal hate instinct stupid. There needs to be forgiveness on all sides. Just be better neighbors. Unionists shouldn't bully a parade where it's not welcome and Nationalists should respect that Unionists want Ireland be part of Britain. If you want a United Ireland maybe stop being assholes to them. Maybe find what you have in common with them. Realize that your extreme nationalism, while fun for you is deeply offensive and threatening to their families and community. How about readjusting and recreating a new Ireland that is a welcoming home for all. Did you ever stop and think what a realistic peaceful United Ireland would even look like? Obviously first and foremost it'd have to respect British citizenship for those who would want it. It'd likely mean Ireland rejoining the British Commonwealth, adopting a new flag, anthem and constitution. Yes. Difficult compromises like that would be needed. In other ways the easiest way to a United Ireland would be to change very little. It'd be impractical to disrupt civil service, police and miliary jobs north and south. Most instututions would need to be maintained and not pact people's lives. What is certain is that forcing a minority to accept being governed against their will won't work. Unionists should understand that too. Northern Ireland is a failed project. There was a recent civil war. There is civil strife, economic hardship and neighbors separated by giant walls. Northern Ireland has failed. So how to fix it? Firstly, nationalists should be careful what they wish for. If done wrong, and a United Ireland is forced on unionists, it'll have failed before it even began and would just extend the hardships and strife to the whole of Ireland. There are many benefits to a United Ireland if it's done right with full buy in and cooperation from all sides. Get their input. Ask what they want and only do what they want. Help them honor and maintain their history. They're a proud Irish people. Yes, they're Irish. Not your version of Irish but they're Irish none the less. Maybe the new Ireland won't be what either side wants 100% but if both sides compromised a lot and contributed a lot then I'm certain a very properous and stronger land waits for all. The Irish in the south would gain by embracing the accomplishments of the protestant Irish. I for one am proud that the Anglo Irish writers, inventors and adventurers were Irish. We should all be proud of other Irish accomplished. Imagine if we spread that cooperation to sports and business. By now Unionists should realize that their neighbors down south are a hard working progressive and prosperous people with a lot to offer. Imagine if we joined together. Thr combined ingenuity and opportunities would make a very powerful country. A new Ireland would have to have health benefits that match those of the NHS. Even nationalists in the North want to keep that and the recent election in the Republic shows that they want that too. The details of an acceptable Ireland would be complex but it could be done if done right, done slowly and done with respect for all.
Wow, it nice to be 58 % from CO. Donegal
I’d love to see a video titled “the green streets of London”
Good video to see and great that its peaceful and respect shown.
“Faugh a’ Ballagh”
an irish language term which has been used by both the green & orange traditions at different stages over the centuries.
Very interesting vid. I am a W.A.S.P. from the Republic and I would really like to see an Orange parade some day.
I know one can go up North to see a parade or even see the Orange parades in the Republic, but at the same time some of my family would not be comfortable.
May I ask where you are from please?.
swissnor Maybe but where are you from ? Wasp is not a Irish term , and I doubt you are from Switzerland ,although oddly a person from Geneva would be familiar with this sort of Crap!
West Brit Yes I am from the Republic. And yes it may be an American term but I have used it in the last few years.
swissnor That's the thing I can smell you are not from Ireland , you use English in different way -Dutch?
well said be nice to parade there one day
A very informative and interesting piece.
Even the music and the montage is beautiful.
MR WANG YOUR FAMILY SOME WHERE DOWN THE LINE DID LAUNDRY FOR OUR NAVEL OFFICERS BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT
What a beautiful country Ireland is but at least the cop at the end admitted to lousy weather lol
Glad you all enjoyed true southern hospitality,too bad it is never reciprocal and flying the flag of a foreign country .i.e the Union Jack is disrespectful to all Irish citizens if the Irish Tricolour is not also flown on the highest mast with all other flags subordinate.
Well not really because the union jack is flown constantly . and NI is in ireland they have more of a right to fly an irish flag than a british flag.
Civilised video. Civilised narration. Civilised parade.
However they selfidentify, all these people are Irish if encountered by British , in Ireland or England; Scotland, Wales.
County Donegal is in Ireland just like the 6 you will very soon be ....like in Belfast...a minority in...pal
Thackaberry is some laugh LOL
Comments are really confusing, some saying they "don't want yas at all" and others saying "see nothing to fear about a United ireland" lmao
At 8.01 he nailed it
Too bad the Orange Lodges Act Like the USA Lodges we don't insight anger..
A clockwork orange
For what?????? It's historically redundant and none of you live as your ancestors live.
As us all of people in the world live pretty much the same life. Bitterness will always destroy a heart and turn it to stone!
LOYAL AND PROUD GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
Irish surname
Why?? Why would anyone want to be associated with the brits??That just completely boggles my mind🤯🤔🤔
Which one?
Great views of mullaghmore from rossnowlagh
Mr Spence.
You mentioned about flashpoints in NI. These flashpoints are created when Marches are going into areas that they are not welcome.So in the general consenses your brethern are unjustifably ignorant of peaceful recognition.I dont have a problem with people exercising their culture. It is only when they are trying to impose onto others a culture that is not theirs.
Go rabh maith agat.
yeah the sights and the SMELLS...plenty of that alright.
its our country
All credit to you. A well presented video. Unfortunately I cant get to this parade as my own parade in Central Scotland is always on the same day
and the garda.....of course...overtime...and a love of loyalism...
So if you really do believe in the Green White and Orange flag why don't we see any being carried by your comrades. 7:59 just doesn't ring true.
I express theory. In practice the IRA desecrated the tricolour through its bombings and maiming and murder. The IRA hid in bushes and shot isolated protestant farmers in the back. They killed more than any other group during the whole troubles. That’s the legacy that irish republicans need to answer for.
@@BrianJohnSpencer Oh I see so it was all their fault, what a jaundiced take you have on the history of Ulster....Lol
BRILLIANT LADS
You do know the Irish Tricolor has orange in it for a reason, right?
a reckoning
The irony that the most peaceful orange march is in the republic! Does this not prove orange culture will be welcome in a united Ireland
Love Ulster in Dublin, 2006
Well no sign of trouble in Donegal! A lot of trouble in Dublin down to northern Irish republicans
Unless they stop being sectarian bigots many Orangemen are but not all of them.
Upa ra
Why are they in Donegal is not part of N.I seems strange I thought they hate the republic.
Auld george up to his usual. We know whaty you did.
No women marchers?
It,'s beautiful because it' s colourful and pinroresque. Puting aside all the political connotations.
colonial bastards
the cheek of you marching in the south.we will have a United Ireland soon and you will be no more hopefully.
You have to ask yourself why? antagonism that's all it is!!!
Intolerance...
@@BrianJohnSpencer if they want to march do it in NI and in loyalist areas.
@@rabbitskinner that’s not how free societies work. The Donegal parade is a long held tradition and totally inoffensive. How dare you say unionists can’t express themselves in Donegal.
@@BrianJohnSpencer the vast majority of people from Donegal don't want them. Let's see how they like marching in the Free State when in the very near future the island of Ireland is rightly reunited!
@@rabbitskinner when was Ireland ever United? You’re an extremist. People can do whatever they want in Donegal.
the gentleman at 06:00 said he marches to celebrate the end of the vaticans control over ireland. would this be a common sentiment shared by loyalists? would it be the dominant sentiment? from my ignorant point of view i always assumed "they" were just celebrating victory over the "irish" even though "they" are also irish. seems like it's really more sensitive and complicated than simply them V us. i wish loyalists would ditch the union jack and be a proud minority of ireland, just fly orange colours or something... to the average ignorant layman the sight of the U.J. anywhere on the island is enough to form conclusive opinions and views... if u just flew orange colours maybe ppl would be more accepting. when u stand under the UJ it makes a statement that im not sure most of u mean to make because when asked, u consider yourself irish. as was said, the tricolour is as much yours as ours. lose the jack for peace. just fly orange n there'll be no problems..... its just a big misunderstanding ffs
Nice film.
FUCK YOURSELF
Donegal to join the UK? it is part of the Ulster after all.
Is Dun na gall like the rest of Ulaidh,Ulster to be forced to be under London rule again the ,nine counties of Ulster, the majority are European and Irish, real prods don't see the Queen of England or Rome as a superior to them and to their God, that is Presbyterianism for ye.Ireland and Scotland has a Protestant heritage but glorification of battles,a dinnae thinksae. It sticks in yer thrapple a bit.
Dun Na Gall/Tir Connel,uabhasach breagha a rithist, SiTH airson huile daoine n'Erin.
@@grahamfleming7642 words of a rambling moron.
@@the_red_barron1002 english, narrow minded bigots would never understand,,anyway in PLAIN English stay out of Ireland and Scotland, we are European, get over it.
@@grahamfleming7642 'plain English' with about twenty spelling mistakes and scenes that don't even make sence. Go back to playing with your snow globe this interest thing is clearly too much for you. Hahah
@@the_red_barron1002 who is interested in a foreign language in my country, a mach a Seo,Sassenach,you wouldn't understand being thick as shit,just the usual anti Irish,Scottish, European, ignorant wee bigot. ENGLAND is renown the world over for.