Northern Ireland's Troubled Estates *Documentary

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    This documentary explores the troubled estates in Northern Ireland and delves into the history of the conflict. Watch to learn more about this important part of Northern Ireland's history. Discover the realities faced by communities as they navigate the legacy of The Troubles, a period of intense conflict involving the IRA, UVF, and other factions. Through interviews and on-the-ground journalism, this film provides a unique perspective on the ongoing tensions between Irish Republicans, Nationalists, British Unionists, and Loyalists.
    Explore key events such as Bloody Sunday and the Good Friday Agreement, and understand their impact on Belfast and the wider Ulster region. This documentary offers insights into the roles played by the Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC) and how Brexit has influenced current dynamics. Gain a deeper understanding of the Northern Ireland Conflict and its lasting effects on Irish history and the path towards peace. Join us on this journey to uncover the complex layers of the Irish Conflict and the efforts to bridge divides.

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  • @HavingaSHOCKER
    @HavingaSHOCKER  3 месяца назад +18

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    • @brendanmaguire4134
      @brendanmaguire4134 3 месяца назад +6

      You probably missed it. But were you here for the west Belfast festival. 1st to 9th of August? Then and there you'll see how 90% of the city behave.

    • @aaronk8904
      @aaronk8904 3 месяца назад +4

      Basically the english only could ever get the 6 counties but majority of people in them 6 counties want a united Ireland 🇮🇪

    • @jk12114
      @jk12114 3 месяца назад +2

      Huge respect for you going in there m8 ! As soon as I realised you were the vlogger I was worried for ya lad 😂 There has been mayhem , where you where recently and the more ye had them repeating themselves the less I fancied your chances😂of getting out okay RAVE ON M8🙂

    • @Phil_2007
      @Phil_2007 3 месяца назад

      Are you deleting comments?

    • @HavingaSHOCKER
      @HavingaSHOCKER  3 месяца назад +2

      @@Phil_2007 no just RUclips filters itself . Big censorship platform

  • @glenmcloughlin8
    @glenmcloughlin8 3 месяца назад +520

    The hatred in the young unionist males is astonishing. That type of hatred is not self tought. They're kids/teens who are brainwashed into hatred and its sad to see.

    • @RFC87
      @RFC87 3 месяца назад

      Pedophile

    • @AK-ULTRA
      @AK-ULTRA 3 месяца назад +1

      Literally goes both ways but keep talking ya fud

    • @colin7096
      @colin7096 3 месяца назад +19

      Absolutely.

    • @geedee1264
      @geedee1264 3 месяца назад +1

      QUIS SEPARABIT is the UDA motto

    • @xMightyTinfoilx
      @xMightyTinfoilx 3 месяца назад

      Wee boy hasn't a clue what comes out of his own mouth. He gets asked a question and just blurts out wordsalad

  • @jamieb61
    @jamieb61 3 месяца назад +212

    Being on top of a bonfire in Belfast and saying, "i know its like summat do do with the protestants and catholics and that" is legendary

    • @HavingaSHOCKER
      @HavingaSHOCKER  3 месяца назад +10

      😅 think I need to work on my research skills

    • @user-pl3he7eo6g
      @user-pl3he7eo6g 2 месяца назад +39

      @@HavingaSHOCKERthe fact you said it’s Ireland on top of their Protestant bonfire 😂😂
      You absolute legend 😂🇮🇪

    • @PaulThomas-wk6ku
      @PaulThomas-wk6ku 2 месяца назад

      dude either thick asf or big balls lol

    • @darraghmcconn
      @darraghmcconn Месяц назад +3

      ​@@user-pl3he7eo6g 100% facts man 😂

    • @releasethequackin266
      @releasethequackin266 Месяц назад +4

      for a serious topic this was comedy gold hahaha, edit: just saw the bit he calls it 'ireland' on top of the bonfire as well, the lads seemed ok with it though :D

  • @alspenlow6399
    @alspenlow6399 3 месяца назад +653

    The difference in the way the young nationalist lads spoke as opposed to the young loyalist fellas,speaks volumes

    • @paultrainor2110
      @paultrainor2110 3 месяца назад +77

      Your not gonna get much sense from sandy row there all headers 😂

    • @tiko4621
      @tiko4621 3 месяца назад

      England out of Ireland. Seems like the only way for all of this to end is for the English to be mass deported lmao

    • @NKCS7
      @NKCS7 3 месяца назад

      There's a reason they're a dying breed, fueled of hatred and stuck in the past.

    • @DMcKeever77
      @DMcKeever77 3 месяца назад +35

      The new lodge isn't much better than sandy row lol

    • @cainsmyth53
      @cainsmyth53 3 месяца назад

      As a protestant I agree here those kids on that bonfire didn't have 2 IQs put together. They don't even Know why they are up there. I'm a protestant because that's just what I was born as but these guess aren't protestants they are HUNS and there is a difference 😂

  • @Ard-mhacha-abu
    @Ard-mhacha-abu 3 месяца назад +450

    Poor kids brainwashed by their bitter, thick parents. Fkn tragic in this day and age.

    • @Dan-eq6po
      @Dan-eq6po 3 месяца назад +38

      They are Irish rather they like it or not lol

    • @kentthedestroyer295
      @kentthedestroyer295 3 месяца назад

      What do you know about it.? , can i ask what religion you follow???

    • @Dan-eq6po
      @Dan-eq6po 3 месяца назад +6

      @@kentthedestroyer295 atheist lol

    • @NickMak-m2c
      @NickMak-m2c 3 месяца назад

      Ow is thot bren weshed thayur aht aven et, taim eiur theyar laif. dont peck a mecck, ya scrange worrsiome burd you

    • @ElDubz420
      @ElDubz420 3 месяца назад +14

      Northern Ireland and Scotland both need to go independent and unite 💪

  • @ULHIS
    @ULHIS 3 месяца назад +119

    The stark difference between the protestants and Catholics in this is educational. In all senses of the word. Rather eye-opening to see the difference in opinions they have of each other.

    • @MarkWells-e1h
      @MarkWells-e1h 3 месяца назад +3

      They tried the bombs and bullets and didn’t work no other choice

    • @marty8187
      @marty8187 3 месяца назад

      Catholics getting educated at university protestants getting educated building bonfires

    • @JMBPro
      @JMBPro 2 месяца назад

      The only reason loyalist kids feel hatred towards the catholic side is because catholic nationalists are so determined to try and rewrite unionists and at the same time think they’re gonna be ok with that. Logically anyone who gets told their way of life is wrong is gonna be aggressive and defensive about it. As far as they’re concerned, that is their home and the way the do things, anyone trying to change that is ignorant and wrong

    • @danielwalker667
      @danielwalker667 2 месяца назад +17

      ​@@MarkWells-e1h Wouldn't have needed the bombs and bullets had we not been treated like second class citizens.

  • @lauralouise1646
    @lauralouise1646 3 месяца назад +49

    These kids 😢. Im northern irish, my mum is Catholic, and my dad was protestant before he passed. They had it hard to begin with that was over 30 years ago! Things have changed, I grew up in both communities, and both communities welcomed me with open arms now a days its a very small number of people who can't let the past sleep.

    • @John-e8q4o
      @John-e8q4o 2 месяца назад

      English people do you except these people????

    • @lauralouise1646
      @lauralouise1646 2 месяца назад

      @user-lh6dx4th5p what do you mean?

    • @carabiner7999
      @carabiner7999 24 дня назад +3

      @@John-e8q4o As my Daddy was an Irish Catholic, my Mum was a Scottish Presby, and I was born in England, it would be a bit much if I weren't to. As far as I'm concerned, I accept most people. Living in the USA right now, and I will say I despise Trump and his pathocracy. I'm moving back to the UK, because he's still in the running, and may even win. People complain about the UK, but living in a Democracy that's about to repeat WWII Germany, I say I'd rather be there despite all her troubles, past and present.

    • @mattjames88
      @mattjames88 23 дня назад +3

      100% I'm English and Catholic and my parents came here from ROI. Time to move on and heal

    • @alisonadrianmomworld6855
      @alisonadrianmomworld6855 11 дней назад +2

      I live in Scotland my dad a prostestant but i am a catholic

  • @CR19917
    @CR19917 2 месяца назад +67

    The conflict didn't arise as a result of one side wanting to remain British and the other side wanting a united Ireland.
    It arose as a result of the Catholic areas being subjected to pogroms and the Catholics having no rights in their own native land.

    • @the_local_bigamist
      @the_local_bigamist Месяц назад +4

      You're right but beyond the religious sectarianism was and still is politics which is misunderstood by so many. The guy did absolutely no research before going on is vlog tour and showed nothing except for loyalists drinking Buckfast and acting like idiots.

  • @edm18126
    @edm18126 Месяц назад +19

    Protestant here. It’s a shame to see this. 99% of young Protestants out building bonfires or celebrating the 12th of July couldn’t begin to tell you why they build or celebrate instead they would insist it’s because they hate the ‘other side’. Any old hand will tell you they couldn’t care anymore, my father being one of them. He was right in telling me ‘whilst the catholics learnt the law and politics in prison, Protestants parties and had band parades’. It really shows in today’s times. Don’t get me wrong, there’s definitely rotten tomatoes on both sides..

    • @marciasullivan6451
      @marciasullivan6451 23 дня назад +2

      My next door neighbors, the Gibson family, lived in a predominantly Nationalist area. The Gibson's were the salt of the earth and my mother and father were so appreciative of their help when we needed food or babysitting. This is the side of Northern Ireland not many people see. At the end of the day we are all people and Christian, oh the irony.

  • @carbonell123
    @carbonell123 3 месяца назад +60

    Excellent journalism! You had an old man gripped from beginning to end. Local access the mainstream media could only dream of. A testament to your character

    • @harryashton7902
      @harryashton7902 3 месяца назад +4

      He had good insight into the local areas and the locals, but I thought he could've asked better questions. I was left underwhelmed after the interview with the old fella, i felt he had more to say.

    • @danw1463
      @danw1463 3 месяца назад +4

      @@harryashton7902 not sure he had good insight, he has no clue what hes on about

    • @the_local_bigamist
      @the_local_bigamist Месяц назад

      He did no research at all. It was quite embarrassing to watch frankly given that there was no exploration of the historical and political context of the division. Perhaps not intentional but this came across as sensationalist above all and there was very little to learn.

  • @goobawoobablooba
    @goobawoobablooba 3 месяца назад +200

    So funny when the actual proper real British person tells them its his first time in Ireland

    • @UKMDI
      @UKMDI 3 месяца назад +3

      we are equal citizens under the GFA.

    • @Squareheed
      @Squareheed 3 месяца назад +4

      *Northern Ireland

    • @conorooneill8671
      @conorooneill8671 2 месяца назад

      Yeah an the real Brit cannot understand them 😂 they sound too Irish to him, isn't it funny how lots of the protestants ended up living how they forced the Irish to live, poor and uneducated without hope! Perfect karma! Why they even love the brits when they have them living in squalor 😂 seems like there king don't care about them, Ireland is a far superior country!

    • @Jacob234-nh2cv
      @Jacob234-nh2cv 2 месяца назад +4

      yeah but northern irelands still in the uk so theyre british

    • @jamjaw8545
      @jamjaw8545 2 месяца назад +13

      ​​@@Jacob234-nh2cvBritain is England, Scotland and Wales. Anyone born in Northern Ireland is Northern Irish, they're not British. They can identify as British but they can only be Northern Irish unless they have a English, Scottish or Welsh parent.

  • @harryashton7902
    @harryashton7902 3 месяца назад +133

    To be fair that's not the "full picture" of Belfast or northern Ireland. If you've been up to Belfast recently its not like this. He is just showing the poorer areas because there is higher rates of violence and therefore more content/ sensational stuff. I also found he wasn't asking the right questions. Very compelling video though, insightful to the poorer youth of Belfast

    • @Ard-mhacha-abu
      @Ard-mhacha-abu 3 месяца назад +11

      @@harryashton7902 fair comment

    • @christophervanengelen1951
      @christophervanengelen1951 3 месяца назад +24

      Read the title of the video, he's specifically talking about the 'troubled estates'

    • @lh7325
      @lh7325 3 месяца назад +2

      That's the point of the video.

    • @Felicity2121
      @Felicity2121 3 месяца назад +5

      I was in Belfast last week and this is filmed deep in the estates.

    • @deadandgone70
      @deadandgone70 2 месяца назад +3

      Youll realise though that most people have a religion. People with wealth and money generally dont care about their "culture". Those in poorer areas cling to it like its their territory. Generally speaking theyll fight for drugs and control that way. Usually the wealthier areas dont

  • @Sven-c4t
    @Sven-c4t 3 месяца назад +72

    As a german i have to say the Berlin Wall was different in some ways. It divided two different ideology blocks, two states at that time. People from the communist east fled massively to the west before. In Belfast these walls seperate people who hate each other, would eventually fight again. In Berlin west & east danced together on the fallen wall it was just one of the best days. Love & peace for all who reading this.

    • @GagzoD82
      @GagzoD82 3 месяца назад +3

      As someone from Belfast, I'll not make uneducated comments re: The Berlin Wall, as I've never been and I would only sound foolish if I tried.

    • @geoff64709
      @geoff64709 3 месяца назад +2

      Same as a German commentating about the Belfast wall , what does he know about living in Belfast?

    • @Yourballix
      @Yourballix 3 месяца назад +5

      @@geoff64709 he’s correct but

    • @alicewonderland1060
      @alicewonderland1060 3 месяца назад +2

      @@Yourballix”in Belfast these walls separate people who hate each other” that’s not correct. Catholic and Protestant work together

    • @Yourballix
      @Yourballix 3 месяца назад +3

      @@alicewonderland1060 if people didn’t hate each other the walls wouldn’t exist

  • @loto7197
    @loto7197 3 месяца назад +81

    The conflict isn't hard to understand. England displaced indigenous irish people hundreds of years ago and replaced them with British settlers. Generations later, this is the fallout between the descendants of both parties

    • @MarkSmithbasic-ei3ue
      @MarkSmithbasic-ei3ue 3 месяца назад +1

      Exactly. Intention being to replace them completely. This is an ethnic/genetic conflict and it can’t be fixed. Simple solution to just return to homelands. Ireland and Scotland. We are whites then.

    • @AdamDylanFoley
      @AdamDylanFoley 3 месяца назад +9

      Even God couldn't have replied better than this, You Win the Internet, congratulations

    • @darnellbiggumsthe9th658
      @darnellbiggumsthe9th658 3 месяца назад +8

      and it really is as simple as this, love the guy that made this video but he’s getting on as if the conflicts more complicated than what it is.

    • @gege4707
      @gege4707 3 месяца назад +1

      the population of northern ireland in 1600's was about 23000
      not quite sure how so few people could be displaced
      its like scottish immigrants displacing earlier scottish immigrants
      lol
      LMAO
      the IRISH!!
      wtf
      the southern irish are descended from the english and the northerners came from scotland
      is ireland even a thing?

    • @superchickenlips1
      @superchickenlips1 3 месяца назад

      I take it religion has nothing to do with this then?

  • @AnthonyMonaghan
    @AnthonyMonaghan 3 месяца назад +34

    When they say 'Taig'...that is the sectarian Northern Irish equivalent of using the 'N' word. Of course they learn this garbage from their parents, the so called grown ups, like the woman who has lived for 50 years in the same area, the Sandy Row, and knows no other life. Very sad people with closed minds and hard hearts. Failed by numerous governments in Westminster and brain washed with the hate that comes from the local politicians. "This is our culture", she says. Not much of a culture. Sinn Fein are now the highest polling party in Northern Ireland, that tells you all you need to know about the future of this lovely part of the world.

    • @Tzahx_
      @Tzahx_ 3 месяца назад

      It’s also called “Divide and Conquer” basically if you divide people into certain communities the government can push narratives when the real enemy is The government

    • @LannaB-d3b
      @LannaB-d3b 23 дня назад

      when "this is our culture" = hate someone else for existing, it ain't much of a culture

    • @YoZack772
      @YoZack772 5 дней назад

      We don’t fucking care we’re prods

  • @olliestevenson8068
    @olliestevenson8068 2 месяца назад +12

    The funny part is if you go to UK no matter what part of Ireland your from they see you as Irish 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

    • @wboyle9721
      @wboyle9721 Месяц назад +3

      True protestant irish when they came to the uk had the signs no irish welcome fact

  • @crim192
    @crim192 3 месяца назад +42

    Funny that the same people you met at the bonfire that night are the same people who are burning the shops of 'immigrants' 200 metres from that bonfire weeks later. Immigrants who live in that area.

  • @justmyster1976
    @justmyster1976 3 месяца назад +72

    Congrats. You interviewed the 40 most stupid people in Norn Iron.

    • @the_local_bigamist
      @the_local_bigamist Месяц назад +1

      100%. No research into the conflict and the history of the statelet either except for an interest in the Berlin wall which has a completely different political and historical context/was built under completely different conditions. I just wasted 30 odd minutes of my life and merely got a glimpse of loyalists acting like muppets.

  • @kevincurley5065
    @kevincurley5065 3 месяца назад +115

    Loyalist embarrassing themselves as usual.

    • @hstewart5629
      @hstewart5629 3 месяца назад +13

      Says the lad who can't even spell embarrassing llf

    • @kevincurley5065
      @kevincurley5065 3 месяца назад +13

      ​@@hstewart5629that's something that happens with auto correct on phones , it's a pity loyalist didn't have spell check, they may have a better chance of constructing an actual understandable sentence.

    • @Gypsygeekfreak17
      @Gypsygeekfreak17 3 месяца назад +2

      @@kevincurley5065 hows the migration going

    • @davywilson5230
      @davywilson5230 3 месяца назад +3

      @@kevincurley5065 pity you can't spell but slate others - glass houses etc!! Silly billy

    • @kevincurley5065
      @kevincurley5065 3 месяца назад +9

      Lol your grasping at straws to divert from the point. But please do carry on thinking that the attitude and behaviour of those loyalist kids AND adults is acceptable as it's only embarrassing their own communities even more...

  • @ozzy8995
    @ozzy8995 3 месяца назад +56

    Jesus christ this is shocking. somehow you found the worst of the worst to speak to when you were here dude.

    • @Rick_Cleland
      @Rick_Cleland 3 месяца назад +5

      Yeah, it's not a good look.

    • @geedee1264
      @geedee1264 3 месяца назад +1

      It's about as shocking as the romper rooms, which are only shocking to people who hadn't a clue about here because they never covered stuff like that, just Google romper rooms UDA

    • @xMightyTinfoilx
      @xMightyTinfoilx 3 месяца назад +5

      Usually the status quo is to avoid the places he went to, so I mean are we really surprised.

    • @dalejenkins1558
      @dalejenkins1558 3 месяца назад +1

      @@xMightyTinfoilx couldnt have said it any better.. i think some people live in denial

    • @SmcdMcd-d2k
      @SmcdMcd-d2k Месяц назад

      @@Rick_Cleland yeah but they still exist there so I don’t really see any issue. Those people are real and what they are trying to do is Real a

  • @jacquelineclarke8333
    @jacquelineclarke8333 3 месяца назад +37

    I'm from the South and 💯 Irish. In 2010 I was in Belfast, we was looking for a pub to watch Ireland France in the world cup play-off. We stupidly asked a bouncer on the door of a bar. We got into taxi and when we arrived in bar, everyone looked at us 😮we go drinks and went up to TV to watch match. Then someone threw gum into my drink and said go home you fenian bastards. I looked up and said I thought the war was over. We left as soon as match was over and quickly got into a taxi and ended up in the Europa Hotel😅

    • @DerrySky
      @DerrySky 3 месяца назад +17

      They are full of hate.Look up the Shankill Butcher, they were evil during The Troubles.

    • @Rick_Cleland
      @Rick_Cleland 3 месяца назад +1

      @@DerrySky 😔😔😔

    • @ciaran3629
      @ciaran3629 2 месяца назад

      The Loyalist people just get more and more sectarian the closer Ireland gets to reunification sorry You experienced that love its a minority of Nationalists but Unionists see the writing on the wall no identity no culture and soon no Homeland unless they return to Scotland reading this back it sounds sectarian but it is just the truth

    • @ab8682
      @ab8682 2 месяца назад +7

      What bar did you go to? That's wild, I'm from Belfast and most of us abhor behaviour like that.

    • @Rick_Cleland
      @Rick_Cleland 2 месяца назад +11

      @@DerrySky Yeah, well, thankfully most protestants aren't anything like the Shankill Butchers.

  • @isitartthough
    @isitartthough 3 месяца назад +79

    As a non-religious man from the Republic of Ireland, the lack of willingness to understand the other side's position is very sad.
    I'm pro-reunification, but only if Unionists are happy and comfortable with their proposed political and cultural representation of that "new" Ireland. They have generations of history in NI (initially rightly or wrongly), so they need to be acknowledged, as NI is their home.
    Unionists also need to understand the feelings of Republicans. The British have abused the Irish people for financial and political gain for hundreds of years, including things like mass murder. They made our language and religion illegal and treated us like subhumans. Unionists need to empathise here and understand why a United Ireland is so important to the Irish.

    • @bunchofgrapesorafig
      @bunchofgrapesorafig 3 месяца назад +1

      It's nothing to do with being British. The Roman Empire never actually fell. Vatican City, The City of London and Washington DC. The triangle of so called power. It's when societies are purposely brainwashed by their beliefs in order to cause hatred amongst the layman who are essentially ignorant. Pit one ignorant man against another whilst all along the individuals at the high table reap the rewards of control. Let them persecute eachother in the Name of something. We sit at the top of the triangle and watch them burn and destroy eachother. What Evil is this 🙏

    • @paddypoohead
      @paddypoohead 3 месяца назад +11

      Some unionist might be able to understand, but a loyalist never will.

    • @ardri31
      @ardri31 3 месяца назад +3

      Well said

    • @ardri31
      @ardri31 3 месяца назад

      ​@@paddypooheadloyalists just need a better education and less dr@gs, then they will understand

    • @koeman1873
      @koeman1873 3 месяца назад +3

      @@paddypoohead Correct, same for the other side as well.

  • @stefanstefanescu3202
    @stefanstefanescu3202 3 месяца назад +10

    Very happy to see your channel is doing well bro. You're really doing great vids and reports. Sincere and genuine. Good man you are, cheers bro!!
    Salutari din Romania.
    ⭐💜✌️

  • @jpc3603
    @jpc3603 Месяц назад +5

    The boy at 16:08 🙌🏼 So wise and on the ball. He's not allowed the hate around him to penetrate his mind and consciousness. If I was a millionaire I would sponsor him to get out of the area and do something he's passionate about in life. May the opportunity reach him 🙏🏼

    • @HavingaSHOCKER
      @HavingaSHOCKER  Месяц назад +3

      Yh lovely lad hope he does well in life’s

  • @davidspence4564
    @davidspence4564 3 месяца назад +25

    I left in 84 best thing I ever did how can anyone live in this environment and try too raise a young family 😢😢😢 breaks my heart 😢😢😢😢

    • @Dan-eq6po
      @Dan-eq6po 3 месяца назад +5

      It's safe now what are you talking about

    • @golaglanman860
      @golaglanman860 3 месяца назад +4

      davidspense
      I left in '80. I've lived and worked in 9 countries, and visited 34. I went back in '99 and left again after 1 year. I love the people and place; it's home, but the nonsense is still there when you scratch the surface. Anyway, greetings from a tropical beach in South East Asia.

    • @Dan-eq6po
      @Dan-eq6po 3 месяца назад

      @@golaglanman860 should have moved to Spain

    • @golaglanman860
      @golaglanman860 3 месяца назад

      @@Dan-eq6po Amadan

    • @Rick_Cleland
      @Rick_Cleland 3 месяца назад

      I was only born in 1984.

  • @cmaccersss
    @cmaccersss 3 месяца назад +14

    Great to see the culture off sandy row being shown, bright young lads!

    • @Rick_Cleland
      @Rick_Cleland 3 месяца назад +4

      😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

  • @Bero895
    @Bero895 3 месяца назад +19

    I live in Belfast and I can tell you that sectarianism still exists with the youth and there is still a low intensity conflict in Derry, but with the majority of adults especially those born before and after the Good Friday Agreement are open minded and pretty sane as they don't want the return of the Troubles.
    If you go to other Loyalist Bonfires across Northern Ireland such as the tallest bonfire in Larne you would notice a vast majority don't burn the Irish tricolour or the images of the leaders of Sinn Fein as more than anything they see it as a community event where everyone is welcome. It is only a small minority in towns, villages and in some areas in a city where you would see that level of sectarianism, especially if the area is a controlled by ethnic paramilitaries.

    • @HavingaSHOCKER
      @HavingaSHOCKER  3 месяца назад +3

      Will like to see the one in lairne one day

  • @FU-nj8xo
    @FU-nj8xo 3 месяца назад +65

    When age and IQ are identical.

  • @GovanDave82
    @GovanDave82 3 месяца назад +11

    The young boys building the bonfire didn’t even know why

  • @awilderireland
    @awilderireland 3 месяца назад +76

    Take note of the attitude of the young Catholics vs the young Loyalists. Tells you all you need to know.
    An IQ test might be interesting too.
    The Loyalists always score highly on the bigotry scale. They say no to everything.

    • @SpotCam
      @SpotCam 2 месяца назад +1

      generations of loyalist inbreeding my friend.

    • @christopherlynch9006
      @christopherlynch9006 2 месяца назад +3

      I'm from the South but it's precisely this kind of disdain and contempt rather than an attempt to understand that will continue to alienate a considerable minority of Loyalists

    • @awilderireland
      @awilderireland 2 месяца назад +1

      @@christopherlynch9006 I've no issue with Loyalists in general. But those hardcore Scrotes are an issue.

    • @Stevensonbenson
      @Stevensonbenson 2 месяца назад

      No is one of the best words out there whereas constant yes makes you weak.

    • @awilderireland
      @awilderireland 2 месяца назад

      @@Stevensonbenson Okay John Wayne.

  • @patrickkeating7074
    @patrickkeating7074 3 месяца назад +20

    What are these unionists loyal to anymore....... They live in the poorest place in these Islands..

    • @conorooneill8671
      @conorooneill8671 2 месяца назад +1

      Loyal to their hatred, its a powerful drug. The brits done more of a job fucking them over than us, imagine living with such hatred, no pleasure in life!

    • @tonymurray814
      @tonymurray814 24 дня назад

      The kings shilling!!

  • @paulohare9976
    @paulohare9976 3 месяца назад +43

    Feel sorry for some of the kids in this documentary dragged up to hate stuck in own bubble parents don't give fuck about them

  • @NickMak-m2c
    @NickMak-m2c 3 месяца назад +3

    You should do a few more in Ireland, I found the last couple were by far the most interesting. The fact that you get involved with the people (to one extent or another) makes these much more interesting.

    • @HavingaSHOCKER
      @HavingaSHOCKER  3 месяца назад

      any suggestions of what topics youd want to see covered? be more then happy to go back

    • @NickMak-m2c
      @NickMak-m2c 3 месяца назад

      @@HavingaSHOCKER ​ The migrant crisis in pretty prime material, maybe get deeper into that and stuff related to it, the differences in how communities relate to people they don't know--communities that they do. Irish/Scotish, Irish/English, Irish/(foreign country) I'm not sure really some of the very best moments seem to be you getting involved with people w/ any of these topics as a kind of starting point, and then it seems to wind up in a bit of an adventure. I just liked this location, even more than the Scotland ones.

  • @horatiotodd8723
    @horatiotodd8723 3 месяца назад +20

    Why do they justify burning the Irish flag by saying we burn theirs? When has that ever happened?

    • @MrHyabusa1300
      @MrHyabusa1300 3 месяца назад +3

      Ignorance equals fear

    • @deedyg575
      @deedyg575 3 месяца назад +6

      We don’t even have bonfires anymore our equivalent would be the feile

    • @TeaLeafThief
      @TeaLeafThief 3 месяца назад +15

      I have never burnt a Union Jack, although after watching this I want to go wipe my arse with one.

    • @Nickersons-Theme
      @Nickersons-Theme 3 месяца назад +3

      Theres literally some dissident bonfire in Derry covered in british and Israeli flag, its happened plenty of times

    • @Nickersons-Theme
      @Nickersons-Theme 3 месяца назад

      ​@@deedyg575theres a provie bonie in derry 😅

  • @aaronk8904
    @aaronk8904 3 месяца назад +14

    The scottish lads are like beavus and butthead havent a fucking clue

  • @rcecil88
    @rcecil88 2 месяца назад +7

    “50 years old and this means everything to me” And that is exactly why this place will never change…

    • @the_local_bigamist
      @the_local_bigamist Месяц назад +2

      it may given the demographic shifts that have occurred over the years.

  • @jennifermoon3276
    @jennifermoon3276 2 месяца назад

    Fantastic "man on the street" footage. Great job. I hope my fellow Americans really take this video in and digest it. Bravo!

  • @Ebrichner
    @Ebrichner 3 месяца назад +5

    Your channel came into my feed and im happy it did! Youre doing great exposing these problems. Im in America and its bad here too. The world governments are ran by the top 1% and thats why the world is sadly like this. 😔 Christ be with you

    • @HavingaSHOCKER
      @HavingaSHOCKER  3 месяца назад +1

      @@Ebrichner thankyou man means a lot god be with you to . I hope to come and make documentaries in the states some day

    • @HavingaSHOCKER
      @HavingaSHOCKER  3 месяца назад +1

      @@Ebrichner thankyou man means a lot god be with you to . I hope to come and make documentaries in the states some day

  • @J4ckski
    @J4ckski 3 месяца назад +5

    Another banger mate well done 👊👊

  • @RyanK-fg2wb
    @RyanK-fg2wb 3 месяца назад +9

    This is true journalism, you should be proud.

  • @andreisuciu677
    @andreisuciu677 3 месяца назад +1

    You made it man, you found inspiration for the right content out there.

    • @HavingaSHOCKER
      @HavingaSHOCKER  3 месяца назад

      Thankyou bro hope you’re doing good

  • @colin7096
    @colin7096 3 месяца назад +9

    If you go far enough back, we were all Irish in Ireland, and initially Protestant and Catholic fought together to resist English colonization and get them out. England managed to divide and conquer us however by bringing Protestants on to their side, and their way of thinking (including the later Plantation of Ulster) and that is what still echoes today. You do see a marked difference in this video between Catholic and Protestants though, where Protestants are still filled full of hatred and appear to want the dark days of the past to continue, because while both sides have often been living in ghettoised and impoverished areas (historically one blaming the other for that when it was England who was actually to blame) the Catholic side seemingly now just wants peace and reconciliation (even their young teenagers said they wanted this) so it's a crying shame that on the Protestant side, horrible adults are clearly still feeding their young people the filth of what went on before they were even born.

    • @JMBPro
      @JMBPro 2 месяца назад

      The Irish agenda is seen by loyalists as a thing of the past, the idea of a united ireland deprives Protestant loyalists as what they see as their country (Northern Ireland) and who they are as Northern Irish people. Being classed as Irish is an insult, the hatred is only there because strongly opinionated nationalists want to take it away from them; a war over territory, nationality, and cultural dominance. And with most of the world only seeing a vague narrative of the situation, the automatically think Irish which fuels more anger out of loyalists because they feel their identity is being ignored.

    • @tempejkl
      @tempejkl 2 месяца назад

      @@JMBProWhy do loyalists stay in Ireland if they don’t see themselves as Irish? No one’s stopping them, they have the lowest IQs of all and resist any social progress.
      Unionists aren’t entirely stupid but loyalists…

    • @bryankinney1
      @bryankinney1 Месяц назад +1

      When you say cultural dominance, that always baffles me because the cultures seem near identical - same accents, same genetics, same territory. I don't get it.

    • @wboyle9721
      @wboyle9721 Месяц назад +3

      1798 rebellion protestant and catholic fought on the same side

    • @LannaB-d3b
      @LannaB-d3b 23 дня назад

      @@JMBPro it is unbelievably disingenous that you are painting this as the Irish trying to impose a cultural dominance when the facts are they want to undo some of the erasure of their culture by the colonising British forces.

  • @waqasahmad8015
    @waqasahmad8015 3 месяца назад +9

    Im british and i really dont no why British establishment has still kept northern Ireland right now the the british establishment should work on the ground and make sure Ireland is one its really really tough to take care of a full union we need to give others space to decide there own fate

    • @Tzahx_
      @Tzahx_ 3 месяца назад +1

      Maybe it’s a discussion in the future but once majority are happy

    • @vaulthunter6961
      @vaulthunter6961 2 месяца назад

      Us english shudnt be giving our money to terrorist state of Ireland or the bum country call Scotland.

    • @JMBPro
      @JMBPro 2 месяца назад +3

      Do you not understand that Making the island of Ireland one country will cause war? Northern Irish unionists see Northern Ireland as a separate country to Ireland, they feel threatened by anyone trying to make them Irish. It’s like hitting a beehive and not expecting to get stung… if someone were to make England and Scotland 1 country and change your culture, national identity and way of life to suit the other country, you wouldn’t be very happy about that would you??

    • @tempejkl
      @tempejkl 2 месяца назад +1

      ⁠​⁠@@JMBProThey are Irish though… they were born in Ireland and are Irish. If they don’t want to be they can move to England. Or Scotland.
      England and Scotland are one country and that DID happen. Many many massacres against Scottish people, usually catholics, happened.
      Irish people weren’t too happy when Scottish and British settlers came in, murdered thousands of people, burned their villages to the ground, forced them into working for them, starved a quarter of them to death, and then those same settlers collaborated with the British state to blow them up, including in conducting terrorist attacks on the Republic (Dublin and Monaghan bombings were done in collaboration between the UVF and British government… an act of war.

    • @JMBPro
      @JMBPro 2 месяца назад

      @@tempejkl “England and Scotland are one country”?? 👀 I don’t think they would agree with you on that tbh
      Yes I’ve heard it many times before, bad shit happened in history; there’s nothing we can do about the past it happened but we’re moving on. The Irish are happy with their independent country, and us Northern Irish have the right to move on too without assholes feeling the need to blame us on someone else’s actions in order to dictate who we are. We are Northern Irish and are happy the way we are, we do not need to get stereotyped by foreign ignorance seeing us as Irish people when we’re not. We do not need hate from nationalists for something greedy English pricks did hundreds of years ago. We wanna live the way we are in peace so if you don’t like that then leave, go live in the Republic of Ireland or in Britain. If you have a problem with history, blame the English not the modern natives.
      I’ve been called all sorts, from English people - “pikey, inbred potato picker, told I’m not speaking English due to my accent”.
      From Nationalists - “hun, Brit, invader, coloniser”.
      Don’t wanna be associated with either of them.
      Both are rude ignorant cunts, don’t want anything to do with people calling me names due to bullshit that happened in history. Catholics are no longer second class citizens, so catholics nationalists have no right to play the victim anymore. And their mistreatment has no authority over my nationality.
      The people in this video are Northern Irish citizens. They grew up disassociated with anything Irish, and if they’re happy the way they are that’s their choice; no one has a right to change them or how they live.

  • @manicbassa
    @manicbassa 3 месяца назад +34

    The daft girl at 26:48 saying if Ireland was reunited she would move to England as she doesn't want to pay for health care 🙄. She is probably a single mum getting everything free and the NHS is hardly a beacon of health care now is it 😂😂😂

    • @KrisVic91
      @KrisVic91 3 месяца назад

      If you ever get knocked down. Do you want to pay 10,000s?
      Catch yourself on. The NHS has been a godsend. If you want to go private, go private.

    • @megan8931
      @megan8931 2 месяца назад

      lovely bit of stereotyping there, well done you! really showing your prejudice :)

  • @Galwayblazer
    @Galwayblazer 3 месяца назад +7

    These young lads are saying things out of bravado that could see them in front of a judge for threatening violence against “ Taigs”, Catholics .
    The sentences being handed down for hate crimes are substantial, 2 to 3 years . As a Catholic I obviously don’t agree with their sentiments but would warn them not to jeopardize their freedom by making online threats , it’s not worth it.

  • @Paddymayne4738
    @Paddymayne4738 3 месяца назад +25

    Now go interview the majority of people in Northern Ireland and Scotland.

    • @eoinl4529
      @eoinl4529 Месяц назад +1

      then the documentary wouldnt be about troubled estates in northern Ireland! its in the title man

  • @ArezX3
    @ArezX3 3 месяца назад +75

    A bit of a dick move to put something in the doc that they specifically said not to put. Journalism at its best.

    • @scarlettskies100
      @scarlettskies100 3 месяца назад +8

      My thoughts exactly 💯

    • @jamesquigley8422
      @jamesquigley8422 3 месяца назад

      ​@humanrightsactivist101 bobby sands is dead you can cry over that skinny bstrd another day ya fruit

    • @S22MOT
      @S22MOT 3 месяца назад +3

      He was clearly filming a documentary....people shouldn't have loose chops infront of a camera😂

    • @RFC87
      @RFC87 3 месяца назад

      ​@@humanrightsactivist101fenian scum go get a shower timmy you smelly nonce 😂😂

    • @ardri31
      @ardri31 3 месяца назад +1

      Eff them lol

  • @km-co2ws
    @km-co2ws 2 месяца назад +9

    Depressing listening to the unionist protestant kids and it's not their fault, they have been let down by their own. Catholic nationalist side outperform them in education results and it's very evident to see here.

  • @LKlocal
    @LKlocal 3 месяца назад +7

    It's OK Everybody, illegal mass migration will soon sort this protestant catholic thing out, 3 cheers for the government, there will be peace at last !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @geedee1264
      @geedee1264 3 месяца назад +2

      Did you protest when the same government was backing UVF and UDA death squada?? They wouldn't have lasted a week without government backing 😂😂😂😂 the invader cries about immigration 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @LKlocal
      @LKlocal 3 месяца назад +1

      @@geedee1264 Invader, LOL, nah Lad am nay invader, ma family fought in every war and battle against the Brits since the beginning of it, and nah a didnt bother me hole protesting back in them days, it never does any good, ur better getting stuck in, so a did a lot more than protest, unlike ursel am sure, al let ye get back to ur cuppa SOUP, hopefully u r at least making some money outta this new plantation, like all the new LANDLORDS and TRAITORS, was rack rented outta me own rented home of 23 years recently, some people so behind in the race, they actually think they are winning

  • @mushdawggg6667
    @mushdawggg6667 3 месяца назад +9

    The glaswegian boys seem pretty switched on man, "nobody ever wins in a fight" is a hard line, I wish them all the best & hope they get out of this shite. Absolute top tier journalism here bro genuinely, this is bound to blow up 💙💯💪🔥

    • @davysubmit-db4yp
      @davysubmit-db4yp 3 месяца назад

      They where best part. Funny as..

    • @ralph3428
      @ralph3428 3 месяца назад +1

      They wee Glesga guys are dangerous.

    • @geedee1264
      @geedee1264 3 месяца назад +1

      I got cut in a gang fight 😂😂😂😂 yeah meanwhile I know 16 people who've been shot 😂😂😂😂 aye watch out for Glasgow

  • @juicer404
    @juicer404 3 месяца назад +40

    Not a brain cell between Scottish lads

    • @Spirit-Of-The-Age
      @Spirit-Of-The-Age 3 месяца назад +8

      They are not Scottish though. They are 'Brit Nats' . They may have Scottish sounding / Glaswegian accents, however they are against Scottish Independence (and against a United Ireland) . Anyone in Scotland whom wants Scotland to remain chained to the corrupt UK/ Westminster system, is a 'Brit Nat' . The majority of people in Scotland now want independence (especailly the vast majority of our younger generations) and they are called 'Scots' (and that includes hundreds of thousands of people whom have come and made Scotland their home..they are classed as 'New Scots' no matter what their accent souns like)

    • @JMBPro
      @JMBPro 2 месяца назад +5

      They're Northern Irish lads not Scottish.

    • @Oduibh100
      @Oduibh100 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@JMBProthey are are all Scots. Ancestors from the Ulster plantation

    • @JMBPro
      @JMBPro 2 месяца назад +2

      @@Oduibh100 what was misunderstood was that there are actually a bunch of Scottish guys later on in the video but for the majority of people in the video, Northern Irish people, that is who they are. They do not inherit Scottish culture or the nationality so they are not Scottish. Saying someone is Scottish because their ancestors could have been Scottish is the same as saying most Americans are Irish because a lot of them fled to the USA during the potato famine, yet everyone denies them when they try to claim they’re Irish due to 0.2% Irish ancestry or whatever…
      Americans are not Irish, Black Americans are not African, so why would Northern Irish unionists be Scottish?? When you look even further back, everyone came from Africa, so does that mean we’re all African?? It’s a stupid argument

    • @wboyle9721
      @wboyle9721 Месяц назад

      Many protestants went to north America from ulster and regard themselves American

  • @Yourballix
    @Yourballix 3 месяца назад +12

    Light fires for King Billy 😂😂

  • @caolanmcconvillemusic1914
    @caolanmcconvillemusic1914 3 месяца назад +4

    so sad to see young kids here clearly still being brought up to be bitter by their parents.

  • @M9998.3
    @M9998.3 15 дней назад

    Respect lads from Lancaster, England

  • @Paddymayne4738
    @Paddymayne4738 3 месяца назад +9

    The opinion of people he is interviewing here are an absolute minority on both sides. My wife and I have walked up and down the Falls and the Shankill Roads. Persons saying hello, how are you, with a smile. No idea as to who we are or where we’re from or what religion. They just want to get on with their lives like the rest of the world. Ignorance and religion have caused more strife, hardship, pain, bitterness and sorrow than anything else. Greed and envy are two terrible inflictions. Something to think about eh!

    • @geedee1264
      @geedee1264 3 месяца назад +2

      Nobody on the Nationalist side expressed any bigotry

  • @mmabennyj
    @mmabennyj 3 месяца назад +1

    Mate I watch you all the time. I’m nobody so my opinion doesn’t really count. I’m not saying I’m your biggest fan but what you do (actually going places) is amazing and the kind of journalism we need to return to. You don’t seem to have an agenda either which is good. Balls of steel mate.
    You or your editors use of gymnopedie no 1 in this particular film was masterful. Keep going

    • @HavingaSHOCKER
      @HavingaSHOCKER  3 месяца назад

      Means a lot benny j thankyou and I’m a one man band so far hopefully get an editor at some point but we might not have the same musical taste

  • @clanmclaren1244
    @clanmclaren1244 3 месяца назад +2

    I watched the Berlin wall come down and falls road Belfast during the troubles with my own eyes...I feel old now

  • @ryleymorton5733
    @ryleymorton5733 3 месяца назад +2

    Amazing, smashed it again bruvv!!

  • @kathleencollison4472
    @kathleencollison4472 3 месяца назад +6

    I live in Northern Ireland and this is totally biased - yes there are poor areas and rotten bad eggs on both sides

    • @Rick_Cleland
      @Rick_Cleland 3 месяца назад +2

      Yeah, everyone is slanted and biased.
      I'm in Glengormley, by the way.🤣

    • @HavingaSHOCKER
      @HavingaSHOCKER  3 месяца назад +4

      Just showing you what I experienced in my few days in Belfast to be honest. Actively going to the roughest places

  • @lukesadventureireland970
    @lukesadventureireland970 Месяц назад +2

    As person who thinks it should be a full Ireland they are so rude we don’t talk about them like that

  • @parkdem
    @parkdem 3 месяца назад +27

    rats? rakes? oh riots... ahahahha

    • @goobawoobablooba
      @goobawoobablooba 3 месяца назад +1

      Couldn't understand his Irish accent

    • @Sinnerboy88
      @Sinnerboy88 3 месяца назад +3

      @@goobawoobablooba (he immediately corrects you) "Norn Irish, mate.. Norn Irish"

    • @goobawoobablooba
      @goobawoobablooba 3 месяца назад

      ​@@Sinnerboy88 if you have to correct everyone you meet it means your cosplay isn't very effective

    • @horatiotodd8723
      @horatiotodd8723 3 месяца назад +2

      @goobawoobablooba No hes not correcting you he’s making fun of how the guy in the video would react to being called Irish

    • @JDavies-su1si
      @JDavies-su1si 3 месяца назад +3

      @@horatiotodd8723he’s not he’s a immigrant he just know there’s a difference

  • @Yeet-n7i
    @Yeet-n7i 2 месяца назад

    Great video as someone not from Northern Ireland you done well of getting feel for both sides

  • @Pinkie007
    @Pinkie007 3 месяца назад +8

    I’m from the south. Great documentary!

    • @nfbk123
      @nfbk123 3 месяца назад +8

      Up de dubs. Get the Brits out

    • @ST-ATHELSTAN-THE-GLORIOUS
      @ST-ATHELSTAN-THE-GLORIOUS 3 месяца назад

      ​​@@nfbk123repeating yourself like a muppit wanting attention what a sad Irish lapdog of the EU you our 🤮🤡🤣

  • @deadandgone70
    @deadandgone70 2 месяца назад +2

    Theres nothing in the conflict that is related to Christianity. 99.999% of the "Protestants" arent Christian. Im not sure about the Catholics but these people have their own religion and its their country and how they "earn money".

  • @harrisonb6104
    @harrisonb6104 2 месяца назад +3

    “I won’t put it in the documentary” *puts it in documentary”

  • @Saywhatnow-o3w
    @Saywhatnow-o3w 14 дней назад +1

    George Best said that he thought he was British until he went to England and he discovered he was Irish. The British don’t want anything to do with the six countries.

  • @DutchFlavour
    @DutchFlavour 3 месяца назад +10

    That Bonfire is crazy, imagine we had this also on our beaches in Holland far away from properties on our beach and the government still shut it down because it went wrong 1 time. These lads ain't scared in the middle of a neighbourhood haha respect

    • @johnlake5763
      @johnlake5763 3 месяца назад +1

      Way better than the council bonfires over in England on Bonfire Night lol

    • @msjigglypuff09
      @msjigglypuff09 3 месяца назад

      In fairness the Dutch fireworks are(were) epic 😂

    • @geedee1264
      @geedee1264 3 месяца назад +2

      They aren't scared because it's protected by paramilitaries 😂😂 even the guys removing the pallets afterwards have to hide their faces in case of paramilitary retaliation

  • @diligaf1000
    @diligaf1000 2 месяца назад +1

    Such a huge difference in attitudes between youth on both sides.. such a shame that the hatred just gets passed down generations 😢

  • @SteveL84
    @SteveL84 3 месяца назад +33

    Its almost a complete mystery why this gentleman kept getting repeatedly shot by security services at different stages of his life

    • @Klaus-777
      @Klaus-777 3 месяца назад +5

      In fairness I grew up there and never got shot once but I did have guns pointed directly at me walking down the street or on a bus. Frightening stuff. I can't imagine what he was actually doing to be repeatedly shot.

    • @aligindahouse7777
      @aligindahouse7777 3 месяца назад

      ​@@Klaus-777Rioting

    • @Klaus-777
      @Klaus-777 3 месяца назад

      @@aligindahouse7777 So a useful idiot for the Globalist Sinn Fein.

    • @geedee1264
      @geedee1264 3 месяца назад +2

      Depends, they shot Michael mccartan for writing a slogan on the wall and claimed the brush was a gun, then disputed that they shot him in the back, the coroner said his t shirt had been turned around after death

    • @aligindahouse7777
      @aligindahouse7777 3 месяца назад +2

      @@geedee1264 Yeah I heard that story before, it was the RUC. I was just guessing that this fella was involved with the riots because he got shot loads of times

  • @marshmallowblaster
    @marshmallowblaster 25 дней назад +5

    This makes me want to visit NI in July one year. The orange parades have such lovely music too.

    • @HavingaSHOCKER
      @HavingaSHOCKER  25 дней назад +1

      For sure you should definitely an experience

    • @marciasullivan6451
      @marciasullivan6451 23 дня назад

      @@HavingaSHOCKER Unless you are a Catholic, or Irish, then they are offensive to your faith and nationality. For the life of me I cannot understand how this is considered "culture", since when is hatred and bigotry "culture"?

  • @MrPaNcaK3777
    @MrPaNcaK3777 3 месяца назад +4

    Why did you cut it out when the young fella from the lodge was about to say see if there's peace? He was about to say something sensible.

    • @HavingaSHOCKER
      @HavingaSHOCKER  3 месяца назад +1

      His friend interrupted and went of on a tangent so this was the optimal cut

  • @JSL2000
    @JSL2000 Месяц назад +2

    I agree 1005 with that young kid at 16.00. If they were born in a different place they'd live completely different lives. Both of those young lads actually come across as nice lads who are stuck in a deprived area which is already ruining their lives.

  • @pakistaniatheist2405
    @pakistaniatheist2405 3 месяца назад +14

    15:26
    When you're younger, you just fuck about... Haha Brilliant!

  • @MullarkeysBarClifden
    @MullarkeysBarClifden 3 месяца назад +1

    Weirdly engaging, nice job👌

  • @gedjpeg
    @gedjpeg 3 месяца назад +9

    Protestants and Catholics in Ireland have one major commonality - and it’s that we all need a true relationship with Jesus 🙏🏻

  • @Marcy1xxMcGrath
    @Marcy1xxMcGrath 3 месяца назад +4

    the anger is so sad life is to short for all that live and let live

  • @johnjonhson1289
    @johnjonhson1289 3 месяца назад +10

    Just goes to show what a certain sides parents are teaching the kids as opposed to the other 🇮🇪

  • @littlebits3750
    @littlebits3750 2 месяца назад +1

    Ireland should 100% be united. Britain should give it back, Northern Ireland cant even manage to govern themselves anyway it’s a shambles. Those Irish who don’t want to be united should just move to the British mainland and be done with it

  • @Nantosuelta
    @Nantosuelta 2 месяца назад +5

    This sectarian devision is so sad. Ireland is a beautiful country and it shouldn't have to be so divided. I'm not catholic, but the loyalism in Ireland makes no sense when you know the history of the country and how unspeakably awful England has been to Ireland. Just research the potato famine.

    • @ww-jl3eq
      @ww-jl3eq 2 месяца назад

      We don't need to talk about the famine
      Loyalism is neo nazi ideology and right wing ideology we don't need the past to find hate and oppression the loyalist plague is still here.

    • @Udhdhfufuf
      @Udhdhfufuf Месяц назад +3

      Why do Irish people always act like the potatoe famine is the uks fault like do you know how famine works , the uk sent the most aid out of all nations

    • @Nikolina_Zemljak
      @Nikolina_Zemljak 24 дня назад +3

      @@ww-jl3eq Makes sense because the IRA are far-left Marxists.

  • @evelynhicks6025
    @evelynhicks6025 23 дня назад +1

    we.have.right.to.stand.for.rights

  • @Ayrshirechick1690
    @Ayrshirechick1690 3 месяца назад +4

    Rutherglen Loyal Boys 🇬🇧

  • @GagzoD82
    @GagzoD82 3 месяца назад +2

    Its a good thing you weren't around sandy row area 3/4 weeks later!

  • @lynnblackburn2720
    @lynnblackburn2720 3 месяца назад +18

    Size of that pallet stack wow 😮

    • @alicewonderland1060
      @alicewonderland1060 3 месяца назад

      That’s average tbh tallest ones get to 200+ feet. And people climb them without safety gear

    • @johnlake5763
      @johnlake5763 3 месяца назад +1

      Impressive to say it was done by estate kids, way better than the bonfires around my area lol

    • @ardri31
      @ardri31 3 месяца назад +3

      Nothing impressive about a bonfire fs, pollution is pollution

    • @HavingaSHOCKER
      @HavingaSHOCKER  3 месяца назад +1

      @@lynnblackburn2720 tallest one in Belfast

    • @koeman1873
      @koeman1873 3 месяца назад

      @@ardri31 Who gives a fuck, once a year.

  • @cainsmyth53
    @cainsmyth53 3 месяца назад +10

    Can i just say there is a difference between a protestant and a HUN
    And theres a different between a catholic and a fenian 😂 if you know you know

    • @tempejkl
      @tempejkl 2 месяца назад

      In other words, a unionist and a loyalist, and a nationalist and… there’s not an equivalent word and to say “republican” wouldn’t be accurate. I guess you could just say violent people

  • @EthanLomas
    @EthanLomas Месяц назад +3

    It’s like being in Gaza with all the radicalism and hate. There’s no fun in hating others 😞

  • @brendanmaguire4134
    @brendanmaguire4134 3 месяца назад +15

    Fkn Hell.....
    Them prods are an embarrassment to both Belfast, Ireland and the English....

    • @MarkSmithbasic-ei3ue
      @MarkSmithbasic-ei3ue 3 месяца назад +1

      To Scottish. Because they are Scottish

    • @brendanmaguire4134
      @brendanmaguire4134 3 месяца назад +7

      @@MarkSmithbasic-ei3ue m8 they don't know who they are.. ffs the hole orange theme is over a dutchman..

    • @MarkSmithbasic-ei3ue
      @MarkSmithbasic-ei3ue 3 месяца назад

      Scoti was Roman meaning Irish gaels who originally went. Highlands were cleared by brits no surprise. The orange loyalists are a different genetic group from lowland Scotland. Planters. Not the same. They should return to Scotland and the Irish in Scotland should return to Ireland. Simple

    • @MarkSmithbasic-ei3ue
      @MarkSmithbasic-ei3ue 3 месяца назад +4

      Those oldest Irish are gaels not the planter stock there the last 400 years. Different group

    • @MarkSmithbasic-ei3ue
      @MarkSmithbasic-ei3ue 3 месяца назад

      YT deleted my comments but anyway. I looked that up. Site in Clare predates it now even. Book of invasions also etc. Point being. Before the arrival of Scottish Planters (sent here to replace us, similar to the west today) anyway, before then ireland was settled and made up of gaels. Celts etc. catholics. For a very long time. They inhabited the island. Then Scottish lowland Protestants we’re sent to replace them.
      If you can see Scotland why is it so crazy to consider moving all the Scots back there and we can move all the Irish in Scotland back here simple. NI is not working. We’ll get over the fact the brits tried to eradicate us. Let’s do the swap and move on. Then sort the other demographics of Europa. Cheers

  • @pauldunneska
    @pauldunneska 3 месяца назад +5

    That's the way most underprivileged estates go on. I live in Dublin and it's the exact same.

    • @HavingaSHOCKER
      @HavingaSHOCKER  2 месяца назад +2

      Aye I visited coolock pretty similar place

  • @georgemartin6389
    @georgemartin6389 3 месяца назад +7

    I always find this interesting they call it the 'troubles' it wasn't trouble it was a war/civil war

  • @leebo4203
    @leebo4203 3 месяца назад +2

    Great documentary 👍

    • @HavingaSHOCKER
      @HavingaSHOCKER  3 месяца назад +2

      I really appreciate your kind words! It means a lot to know that the hard work put into this documentary resonated with viewers like you. where would you like to see next?

    • @leebo4203
      @leebo4203 3 месяца назад

      @@HavingaSHOCKER maybe Scotland or somewhere eastern Europe, but with good content like this I'd watch it wherever you go good luck with the channel 👍

  • @benjaminnickerson3961
    @benjaminnickerson3961 3 месяца назад +5

    22:56 I notice the caption spells the word as Feinian. Historically in North America at least, it was how those who conspired for physical force republicanism identified and they spelled it Fenian or in Gaelic; Fianna. It was supposed to be connected to a band of warriors from folklore (Sinn Féin didn't exist yet.)

    • @s.d3425
      @s.d3425 3 месяца назад +4

      they call us catholics fenians

    • @shaydorts9706
      @shaydorts9706 3 месяца назад +7

      It’s an insult for us now but yes it comes from the clan of warriors

    • @ULHIS
      @ULHIS 3 месяца назад +5

      To protestants it's an insult. To Catholics it's an inside joke when called it, it's an honour in a way, but like anything, it's all to do with intent.

    • @paddypoohead
      @paddypoohead 3 месяца назад +3

      It's a sectarian insult but they're too historically ignorant to know it's actually a compliment.

  • @Irelandforever609
    @Irelandforever609 20 дней назад +1

    Brit's and immigrants and Muslims out of Eire
    Ireland belongs to the Irish

  • @TiarnanMacdonald
    @TiarnanMacdonald 3 месяца назад +3

    I’m a catholic and I’m not stupid enough to read into any of this nonsense. The young people of Belfast today from all communities are in integrated schools, clubs together and work together. Stop trying to push the outdated narative of sectarianism. It doesn’t speak for the majority of the youth in Belfast today. Also putting kids under pressure around that time of the year infront of a camera is embarrassing journalism. Worry about your own country and stop trying to paint a rotten picture of ours. Utter lies.

    • @Tzahx_
      @Tzahx_ 3 месяца назад +2

      It’s just sad so much hate mainly on the Protestant side from what I’ve seen. Yeah of course hate on both sides but time changes

  • @jakewallace1664
    @jakewallace1664 3 месяца назад

    very much enjoyed this wee doc about our wee place. Must say You've some ballix on ye son!

    • @HavingaSHOCKER
      @HavingaSHOCKER  3 месяца назад

      Thankyou Jake! Great place really enjoyed my time here and was welcomed with open arms

  • @dfasparrow9044
    @dfasparrow9044 3 месяца назад +20

    Can't be a friend but weres s a Liverpool top you will never walk alone 💚💚💚💚

    • @davidbrown7116
      @davidbrown7116 3 месяца назад

      Liverpool FC were founded by an orangeman

    • @juicer404
      @juicer404 3 месяца назад

      He Prob blocks his ears for the fields of athenry

    • @Chop2016
      @Chop2016 3 месяца назад

      ​@@davidbrown7116don't think any irish Liverpool fans care..that's just like saying the loyalists northern Ireland football team was founded by loyalists..loyalists catholics play for the northern Ireland

    • @davidbrown7116
      @davidbrown7116 3 месяца назад

      @@juicer404 you want to get your ears tested as it's the fields of anfield road Liverpool fans sing

  • @richardhingston6073
    @richardhingston6073 26 дней назад

    The joy of seeing young lads not playing on their phones

  • @NollaigoFaolain
    @NollaigoFaolain 3 месяца назад +45

    Éirinn go Brách.

    • @geoff64709
      @geoff64709 3 месяца назад +7

      🇬🇧 👍

    • @castortroy6588
      @castortroy6588 3 месяца назад +11

      Derry Brigade 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 🇮🇪

    • @ardri31
      @ardri31 3 месяца назад +6

      ​@@geoff64709the butchers apron lol

    • @WillC-s5q
      @WillC-s5q 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@geoff64709move there

    • @TreesRgreen123
      @TreesRgreen123 3 месяца назад

      ​@@ardri31I'm proud of it thanks

  • @shona5512
    @shona5512 3 месяца назад +2

    I think it would be interesting to see the contrast in opinions from people on both sides in better educated areas vs these troubled poorer estates. Id imagine the Catholic demographic would still be more tolerant and accepting across the board, but there would be a significant increase in the amount of Protestants who are more accepting and open minded, as opposed to the ones displayed here who say they'll never be friends with a fenian.

  • @Felicity2121
    @Felicity2121 3 месяца назад +7

    The lad filming this was absolutely shitting hisself 😂

  • @belfastcrackheads9944
    @belfastcrackheads9944 3 месяца назад +1

    I remember meeting you at a glider stop at the falls

  • @simonwiggins8570
    @simonwiggins8570 2 месяца назад +4

    I watch this as a British Unionist. My first thoughts is how drink and drugs have completely ruined urban communities of both Protestants and Catholics. To the young Unionists building bonfires, they likely don't know the meaning of the word Protestant never mind actually be one (a Christian). The Troubles along with modern way of life ruined our working class communities and it should the aim of community leaders to repair the damage starting with an anti-drink, anti-drugs, good education, and hard work message.
    Rural areas thankfully have maintained the tradition in a much more positive way.