David Tennant Meets With His Protestant Cousins - Who Do You Think You Are?
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- Опубликовано: 8 дек 2013
- David is off to meet his cousin Billy Blair, who can hopefully shed more light on the lives of both David's great grandfather William and Archie Macleod. Both were affected by the political battles that surrounded Irish independence and Northern Ireland's secession from the Republic.
Famous for playing the time-traveller Dr Who, David Tennant has decided to abandon the Tardis and investigate his own history.
David was born in Bathgate, a post-industrial town between Glasgow and Edinburgh, in 1971. His father, Alexander McDonald, is a minister in the Church of Scotland. David changed his second name, as many actors do. Tennant being inspired by The Pet Shop Boy's Neil Tennant.
Beginning his historical investigations by focusing on his father's side of the family, David quickly discovered that the paper trail goes cold relatively early on. This means David's hope of tracing his family back to the time of the clans would take a huge amount of research, so he instead turned his attention to the ancestry of his maternal grandfather, Archie McLeod.
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I love how he's being honest, but very polite about it. A lot of people can take example from that.
He’s also incredibly wrong and misinformed about those opinions
That's the thing about family history, you're not always going to like what you find. But by meeting his cousins and talking with them, he's making an effort to bridge that sectarian divide and that's not an easy thing to do so I give him a lot of credit for that.
But he is trying. More power to those that try to connect.
Really depends on if someone is kind or hateful.
I feel his pain. Sometimes the whole sectarian subject can ride up and surprise you when you least expect it. It certainly has in my family.
He’s bridging the sectarian divide? Err.. what? You mean he is talking to his OWN family members that are from a Christian background like most people in the UK and from the UK and support the UK. My God.. how far gone are some people..
@@davedoogan6650 What were they Muslim?
No one:
No one at all:
David: "Right"
Think he was trying to take it all in, possibly holding back his true feelings.
right
"rIgHt"
for some reason david driving is really comforting
I would watch a whole serie of him only driving.
Except he's on the wrong side of the road. He's going to get someone killed.
It's the sound of turn signals and that he's looking where he's going for me 😅
it made me nervous! brought back bad memories of trying to drive on the left when driving on the right is so second nature to me - turning corners are the worst 😂
"meets his Protestant cousins"- this suggests that he is not protestant himself but being brought up Church of Scotland, he is also protestant.
I think it to do with , in the actual full show he met Catholic cousins as well 🤷🏻♂️
Hes a atheist
its not to do with them being Protestant its to do with them being Orangemen. the marches in Glasgow where very violent and a lot of protestant denominations tried very hard to disassociate themselves with them
@@nickm8810 no he’s not
@@hcb3150 HCB is a liar and his pants are on fire. Peace. No Surrender.
I don't think David has anything to be ashamed of. As long as you're a good person, it doesn't really matter who your ancestors were.
Exactly my whole family are Protestant but we're not ashamed we are good people it doesn't matter about past we are all equal we're all humans
Quote of the year
Why would he be ashamed?
@Terence devlin would be worse if his ancestors turned out to be republican soapdodgers.
@Terence devlin Now come on, both sides of the conflict have at different times been victims & victimizers. Conflicts like that have a way of talking on a malignant life of their own.
and uh- oh there's the queen.
Long live the queen !
@@Valencetheshireman927 ...the fascist regime!
@@dropit7694 How is the queen facist ?
@@dropit7694 how is it fascist hahaha
Whose great-great-grandmother is presumably a werewolf. 😂
Complexities of history and their implications for the present.... I am glad that someone like David did this walk as he is a good person to emote his thoughts on this. I do wish more could at least get a feeling for this. It is hard but it is there and should not be overlooked.
I remember the hype when he was in Derry. Good man himself went to a match in the Brandywell and met with some locals. Come back any time David! Pints are on us.
I'm from Derry (think I'd left the country by this point) I was so confused seeing the walls in this thumbnail!
celebs usually get that reaction, ordinary people with no fame do not :) I would love to research my irish ancestry but i do not think i would get a pleasant welcome
Londonderry
@@johnbanks4761depends if your an American who says they’re basically Irish but it actually traces back so many generations it’s pointless
@@markbeggs6814both
I watch all of David’s shows. Love his acting.
Genetics are crazy. How the hell did he come from his grandfather? Amazing.
behavioural epigenetics?
Great actor good for him looking into his background.
I keep getting recommended this series but with different people.
We have the orange lodge marching in Liverpool every year. I used to go watch them when I was little.
I know the program is relatively new. But looking at the video quality (colour scheme) and the situations of the streets and the cars, the houses, interiors, how he dressed up, etc. I feel like this was recorded in the 80s.
Derry is the in the 80s XD
Who Do You Think You Are?
He's the Doctor
He's a Time Lord
He's from the planet Galifrey on the constellation of Casterberous
He's 903 years old and he's the man who's going to save your lives and all 6 billion on the planet below
And if you don't let him help, you are starting into a deep pit of trouble!
He will save us from all hell breaking loose
But he's so upset holding a collarette. The poor wee man.
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doctor who?
You got a problem with that? Is the next line. Also - Kasterborous*
What a nice guy David is, that’s his family’s history yet he’s sees the wrong in it, respect 🇮🇪🏴
The union is better than the republic
He's joking🇬🇧🇬🇧😂🤦🏻♂️
When I saw Eddie, Iron maiden thought bloody good art job, who did that.
yeah i thought good job of recreating that
I wish I knew he came here to Derry, lol those murals are normal to us, wish I could've met him
Very different accents but equally wonderful...
People are people; we are who we are.
The "Orange Episode". His T has a large orange print. The next episode, his t-shirt is green.
iving in belfast east is quite nerve racking all those horrible murals scare the crap outta me....I left after boarding in CCB college for two years
The Soviet Union was like that as well.......
how many times can david say “right” in a row
I'm actually quite surprised at this, I wasn't really listening to this as it was an autoplay video but wow I thought he was in Belfast before realising he was in Glasgow :o
He was in northern Ireland visiting some cousins, but he was talking about his perspective of orange men from living in glasgow
Does anyone know what order the WDYTYA David Tennant videos go in?
THIS WAS INTERESTING.
I lived in a flat in glasgow
Oh theres the queen
He's so bloody gorgeous and a cheeky imp. ❤❤❤❤
I have no idea who David Tennant is, but it's fascinating to watch him discover his heritage.
Bless your heart
He is a fantastic actor
No idea “Who” no it’s just Dr 😂
@ian Thanks. I'll look them up.
I love the Iron Maiden poster. Hello Eddie.
Lol
Loving his top..... what a film
2:25, the Doctor, pensive.
“Secession from the republic?” Check your history on that one.
Bizarre sentence indeed.
When was this filmed? Month and year.
July 12th 1690
hes a MacDonald (Highland clan in old times)
Sell Happy Meals in recent times.
@@cambs0181 it's not macdonalds its McDonald's. Mc isn't Scottish Mac is so this comment means nothing
Regarding the spelling of McDonald/MacDonald, the spelling of the various "Mac" clans shifted back and forth between Mc and Mac during the nineteenth century in Nova Scotia. However, nowadays the Canadians of Scottish descent prefer Mac to Mc, the latter indicating a McDonald of Irish descent.
Ironically MacDonald was a Catholic Clan.
im also a macdonald and scottish. i wonder how far back our common ancestor is
I just realised my paternal grandparents were similar. He was a MacLeod from the Isle of Lewis; She was a Lacey, although born in Australia, went to a Catholic school, & is from Wexford, Ireland, further back.
He’s rather delicate about his ancestors........’old saying in Scotland was ‘The best way to check your ancestry was to search the Magistrates Records’ 🙂
The majority of my Clan were deported; one locked the doors of the local church (during a service) and threatened to torch it if they didn’t had over the collection 😊
My point being, instead of being shocked, just take it as some family colour. After all, if he’d found Viking heritage, he’d probably be quite pleased but they were like the latter day Waffen SS.....the past is the past.
My Clan’s the same, the Elliotts were part of the Border Reviers and got booted out of the country for it, our family records burned with the family castle about the 1600s, however a Chieftain did something similar to your kin: five of the Clan were hung for stealing cattle, he heard about it and sent 500 raging Elliotts to fight in revenge. And I totally agree! If I did research and found out a cousin was in the Order I wouldn’t be surprised, I just wouldn’t feel comfortable visiting as a Catholic
Absolutely.. the past is the past
can someone explain what the orange sash means or what it is?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Order
0:25 Trooper Eddie Iron Maiden Mascot :)
WHO do you think you are?
The Doctor who married of the Doctor’s daughter from The Doctor’s Daughter.
And he has 3 more Doctor’s daughters with the Doctor’s daughter
Christianity's always confused me, because I've been mainly in contact with a catholic society, with my irish grandma and the italian part of Switzerland, and I always felt sorry for protestants, as many centuries ago they were banished from my canton, and moved to swiss-german cantons. They were (and still are) a minority, their churches are hidden away, and in general they are much more modest, and don't have any kind of paintings, murals, decorations,...
I became aware of Northern Ireland's a tad more extreme protestants only later. It really just depends in which region you are, and what type of people are believers: our (catholic) Priest is a pain that sometimes starts bellowing "Ave Maria che sei nei cieli...", but the one in the confining area is polite and kind, and directs my schools choir with fervent passion.
I'll shut up with my musings, now
I’m a Descendant of Robert Lundy, I kinda am sympathising with David on this one ☝️
Fair enough even though he was a traitor but played a part in our history.
I'm also a far out descendant of Oliver Cromwell on my mother's side who settled in Fermanagh during the 1800s.
Its crazy who people are descended from people who is very known in our country's history
You ought to be proud . He was law abiding and wanted to be obedient to his Sovereign. The rest were only rebels.
@@ulsterinfidel9897 Lundy was not a traitor. He stood out as a loyal subject of his King in a sea of actual traitor.
1:15 theres a mistake there lads, its Derry not londonderry
00:24
Thats literally Iron Maiden, the Eddie mascot they use
He literally has the sash his father wore
His cousins father wore that sash.
Not to worry, David! I'm of Irish-Scottish Catholic descent and I have Irish Protestants in my family background too!
The Orange and the Green
He reacted as if he'd just learned that his great-grandfather was native from Skaro, if you get what I mean.
Poor David. He was as diplomatic about that as possible. Holding that symbol of opression.
Symbol of oppression funny
What the Iron Maiden single cover?
@@jakebrowncollection1772 not funny its true
Do you have any clue what you are talking about, ? I suppose you be happy if some poor police officer or soldier gets hurt or killed. If you don't know orange history don't open your mouth.
@@thebelfastvikingmartinbrow3603 T.A.L U.T.P
I'm a Catholic and can't speak more highly of Ulster Unionist people.
As a fellow 'Blair' but........ from Australia (5th generation)....... I have no understanding of the significance of such a sash and no comprehension of the divisions and symbology of the religious conflicts younger Britons continue to absorb as part of their identity today. Something I'm extremely glad of. Some things, in my opinion, are best forgotten.
Right, meanwhile your ignorance is bliss mentality is incredibly ill suited for the imminent challenges of Brexit border issues in Ireland.
Grow up.
@@KaiTakApproach Why can't these issues be dealt with in the context of the current situation, reflecting the needs of the people as they present today, rather than clinging to old religious conflicts of the past? It's one thing to remember history, but a very different thing to promote religious division and hatred as part of peoples' identity.
@@anserbauer309 Let me put you into a scenario that might explain it. If your father was murdered by my father, and you knew it was because my family thinks your family is not only a bunch of terrorists, but heretics as well, would you sit comfortably knowing that my family dominated the government where you live? Your ethics are commendable but unrealistic in this situation. Things aren't quite that bad now, with quite so many people, but after hundreds of years of this it is too soon to just say, let's put it behind us. The players, politicians and memories are still very much in play and with the border issues threatening to ignite them yet again, the rhetoric has already been ramping up.
Ideally, I agree with you but if a misstep is made at any point here, that is not acutely in sensitivity to the past, you can kiss the peace goodbye.
@@anserbauer309 PS I do think Oz is a bunch of heretics because of your cricket team😊
@@anserbauer309 PPS: people with hearts like yours need to pay special attention and educate yourselves because the rest of us are often too deep to keep a clear head. willful ignorance isn't a solution. Clear, educated heads and honesty are.
I have a branch of cousins just like this. Strange, their living room is decorated like this one too. All wee plates with the queen on, and cheap porcelain dogs
I have Catholic cousins, their homes are decorated strange as well. Loads of little saint pictures and beads hanging everywhere. Real strange. But hey let’s not be judgemental I guess
@@herb2078beads hanging everywhere? doubtful dearie. rosaries are not for hanging around a room, you just made that up
David is always a man of love. But he shouldn’t worry about Being related to a wrathful relative long ago. As long he does him and be himself, he is in the clear. He had been from the start
What he forgets to mention the other side was not a peaceful lot either ,live and let live
1:47 - Who is he?
You are what you are no use worrying about what others think.
A clasdic example of how education really works 😎
It was old, but it was beautiful.
The colours were fine, too.
So I hear.@@JimmyS.25
The only thing I can understand in this video is his vertigo shirt
Northern Ireland meets Scotland and we all get along
Terence devlin I always think we have a lot more in common with Scots than English.
@T D Really, now? I'm Scottish, married to someone from Northern Ireland. Been over there many, many times over the years and have never had a friendlier welcome. Don't peddle myths.
showed David has been progressed very well.
Can someone explain to me what is going on?
Why does that neighborhood make David uneasy? What is the significance of that sash?
It’s Northern Ireland full of sectarianism with catholic’s and Protestants fighting each other all the time the sash and the murals are Protestant symbols and he’s been raised a catholic
Notmyrealname - no he’s been raised the Scottish equivalent of a Presbyterian.
Heather Orr oh ok oops then he’s uncomfortable for the opposite reason I guess
@@notmyrealname-1805 I think it's just the sort of devout sects that wore those sashes were pretty violent- that might be what's upsetting him.
He s upset because he's a liberal leftie and the Protestant side are classed as the bad guys by those with that ideology . It's not the case , there are good and bad on both sides . I am English live in a shared house with Irish Catholics in London ,and had an Irish Catholic girlfriend . One of my best mates is a Glaswegian protestant , and I've met cousntless people on both sides of the divide . I wish there was some way to heal the divide because it really should be left in the past, but unfortunately it's not that simple.
I was in that neighbourhood a few weeks ago: Waterside. That death's head armed with a sword mural was particularly striking, or worrying. Other than that, it seemed a rather trendy place. I believe Catholics live in that area too.
opusv5 that’s actually an album cover for iron maiden it was made when they released a album back 20 years ago but it went well in that sort of area anyway
As someone who grew up in the 80s surrounded by classmates wearing Iron Maiden shirts I found it less worrying.
Lol
"Billy Blaire"
Of course !!😂
partition not secession i thought
Can someone explain the history of this?
Northern Ireland has been for many years a place of great divide and its usually discussed along religious lines. i.e. catholic irish, british Protestants. there is a very vocal group British/ Protestant group in NI called the orange order which have parades/ marches on the 12th of July to celebrate them winning the battle of the Boyne. In some places in GB where the sectarianism was also, most notably Glasgow where Tennant is from, the 12th became synonymous with violence and vandalism. As such many other Protestant groups attempted to disassociate themselves with them like Tennants family
Wears an orange Vertigo movie t-shirt to a Glasgow Orange Man area .... yup !
I’m surprised he didn’t use the tardis to get around
Terence devlin 😂😂
😂😂
What does the orange mean?
It is the national colour of the Netherlands, where King William came from, who became King of England and then went on to fight his Catholic son in law at The Battle of the Boyne and defeat him. Protestants in Northern Ireland use the colour as an identity to thier heritage to this day.
It’s to show Loyalists loyalty to the Netherlands 🇳🇱
@@Coughlan1916 LoL
Did anyone see the Iron Maiden mural?👌🏻
Can someone please explain to me why the protestants were "bad"? I've looked it up but nothing really heads results
Tom Sanders thank you so much 🙌🏻
@Tom Sanders Thanks for your description . I get the feeling that David Tennant, like most on the left of politics , regards Protestants as being the baddies and Catholics being the goodies . The truth is far more complicated .
why are they bad they are not ,its the ore miltries that are bad and the wroste were the IRA
Tom Sanders What a full on crap retelling of history. Wow. Advertise your bias much?
@@ohmightywez It's complex mate. Good and bad on both sides of protestant/ catholic history.......but the likes of the BBC (and The Guardian) tends to demonise protestants in particular. It is tiresome after a few decades hence some frustrated comments.
As an American I would appreciate any explanations of the political/religious/etc. subtleties and history and so on here.
In Ireland many Protestant Scots and English took land from the local Catholic Irish in the North of the island (now Northern Ireland) in an attempt to stop Irish independence movements. This has caused a lot of sectarian violence over the years and is the background for risings during British control of Ireland and later The Troubles in Northern Ireland with Catholics being pro-Republican and Protestants being pro-British.
The Orange Lodge (those with the sashes) are a Protestant group named after William of Orange, who was a British king who repressed an Irish rebellion (the Battle of the Boyne). They promote Northern Ireland staying within the UK and Protestant control over the area. They're found worldwide but mainly in Northern Ireland and Scotland (where a lot of Irish folk moved to). They have big marches called 'Orange Walks' to promote their views and Irish Republicans have similar ones during marching season.
Hope that helps.
@@KitchenSinkSoup Thank you
@@waldoman7 No problem
This could take a while
No stealing was involved
Right
Of course, it is well-known that there are no political street murals in Catholic areas
/sarcasm
That's because everyone knows Irish catholics are open minded peace loving liberals who in no way took part in ethnic cleansing and sectarian murder,I mean everyone knows that,or have been told that.As for Tennant,is he just stupid or does he really believe Orange = bad?Typical Guardian reading liberal as he says,never mind Irish fascist history just blame the prods,aye right.
@@suffern63 in ww2 the IRA was involved with the nazis
suffern63 I think his point was that the murals were horrible either way, you just don't see either in Scotland (I'm from Scotland and when I moved to Northern Ireland I found the murals disgusting, the Protestant ones tend to be more intimidating as they are usually featuring men in balaclavas with machine guns whereas I've never seen a catholic one like that, but I'm sure some of thosecan be equally as horrific). People in Northern Ireland don't seem to realise how scary those murals can be on either side.
@@suffern63 ...I can't tell if you're joking or not
It’s two ethic groups Irish and Lowland Scottish fighting over a territory where they both originate from.
Could someone explain what's going on?
Northern Ireland has been for many years a place of great divide and its usually discussed along religious lines. i.e. catholic irish, british Protestants. there is a very vocal group British/ Protestant group in NI called the orange order which have parades/ marches on the 12th of July to celebrate them winning the battle of the Boyne. In some places in GB where the sectarianism was also, most notably Glasgow where Tennant is from, the 12th became synonymous with violence and vandalism. As such many other Protestant groups attempted to disassociate themselves with them like Tennants family
That orange sash is a bit like finding your grandfather has a totenkopf, for those that don't understand the situation.
Kai Evans it’s the symbol of the SS the German regiment during WW2
Allan Taylor nah but orange marches are bad
@Allan Taylor That's a bit hibernophobic, and actually untrue. The Republic simply didn't have enough forces to make a difference even if we did join, and joining regardless just puts us in harms way, especially since we're right next to axis-occupied France. Irishmen served outside of the Republic regardless, to be certain.
Being a loyal Ulsterman, especially one in the order, to me, translates to being a sectarian bigot, but sure they did something completely unrelated so they're saints now.
@Allan Taylor It's not about scale of the country, to me, but moreso about scale of the military.
Sure a lack of vigour in allying with the British had to do with it, to be sure.
svp aidez moi à traduire ça
I miss having a car
me too bud.
Sweet Iron Maiden mural
Is David catholic or protestant? I dont understand this
The sooner Ireland is United the better a Protestant viewpoint!
That would spell the death of Protestant unionist culture and is completely pointless. NI and the Republic have good relations now so why throw that away.
@@Valencetheshireman927 please explain what protestant unionists culture is really about
@@jamesbennett9387 Read the words, PROTESTANT UNIONIST culture.
It’s about being a Protestant and identifying as British this being pro U.K. union. You can get unionists who are Catholic but the vast majority are Protestant so the two are quite firmly linked.
The orange sash had to do with William of Orange right? Is it a symbol of anti-catholicism?
I think it does... The Dutch royals wear it on occasions. They're from Willem of Oranje and are supposed be "protestant"...
Did you know that William of Orange (Willem van Oranje) did not like the colour Orange.
English people proudly wearing the colour of their conquerors - A strange type of masochism indeed.
And he was gay
@@Brickcellent Umm no there was a revolution that done away with one king and replaced him with William.
It's a Timey Wimey thing. 😒
could some one tell me what orange means im not ignorant.im an australian..
Protestants loyal to UK, i.e. wanting to have Northern Ireland stays in the UK
It's got a lot of connotations of violence, intolerance, hatred, anti-catholicism, and sectarianism. David talks about growing up in Glasgow and here especially there's a big divide between Protestants and Catholics. The Orange Walks happen around this time of year and you find a huge police presence in the city centre to prevent riots. We were actually in the town for my birthday about an hour or so after one and the number of people still milling about in orange set you on edge. My family's Catholic and Irish-descended so it's an especially unpleasant experience for us
@@lingo3125 thank u....
@@Fyreflier thank u..i didnt realize this sort of thing happened..i hope nobody gets hurt especialy nowadays.. thanks again.
XOXheartAmy Yeah, not a biased response in *any* way there.... 🤦♂️😂
Political persuasion is largely genetic . David shouldn't be tooo worried or upset about the past.
He reads the guardian?! He just gets better and better!
smadge100 agreed, guardian readers are modern day fascists
Kas, how do you plan to be civilised if you read the guardian?
Reminds me of that scene from trainspotting 2, with the crazy people. What I wanna know is why so many Scottish people were so happy about being invaded by that Dutch guy? Are we Catholics that awful?
You have forgotten bonnie dundee and the battle of Killiecrankie. If you are a Jacobite then Scotland did more for your cause than Catholic Ireland. Ireland did nothing in 1715 and 1745.
Tom Sanders I take it you aren’t Catholic then...
@Tom Sanders Haha.... as if the Anglicans, Lutherans, or whatever other 30,000 heretics could ever truly claim to be the true church, we already have one, One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church
@@thethirdsicily4802 Actually there are at least two Catholic Churchs. After 1054 in Eastern Europe there has been the Orthodox Catholic Church. Look under the East-West Schism.
@@willfoster2635 I know what the Schism is, however there is only one holy, catholic, and apostolic Church, to me it is the Roman Catholics, to an Orthodox person it'd be the Orthodox, but just so you know, while two faiths can claim to be catholic, only one can be right, because the word catholic refers to the universality of the faith.
Brexit may bring these people together politically. David should listen to Tommy Sands (Irish folk singer) who has a wonderful song called "There were Roses" about tells of two friends, one Protestant and one Catholic, both of whom were murdered.
He’s in the waterside lol
Run quick 😉
The politics relates to British mainly Scotland not English people who arrived in Ireland and see themselves as British and they are Protestant. By simply saying Protestant and Catholic you leave out the fundemental truth which is not religious . The Protestant history shows that their aim was to divide and rule .. the Ulster plantations was designed to create divisions and mainly areas were Protestants would create strongholds and impose their identity onto the Irish. The Irish are the people of Ireland who existed long before the Scots brought their Orange order to create further oppression on Irish who were Catholic. Sectarian divides based on British and Irish. The Irish an be see as Nelson Mandela and the British Appartied. Imagine your country and you are the Irish. Now watch the video they refer to Catholic when they should say Irish and Protestant when they should say aBritish. That would be a more truthful reflection of the issues. He is unhappy with the part the Orange order plays in the politics and that’s hard to criticise for they have an appalling history.
This is Glasgow. Mirror image of Ulster, the Catholics are the transplants. Catholics in both Scotland and N. Ireland had the IRA, and both sides had/have para-military orgs.
@Tom Sanders
2000 years in 300 words!
@Tom Sanders copy and paste LOL
@Tom Sanders argument LOL , who's after an argument that's your department , i'm just having a nice relaxing day chilling out
many of the prodestant moved to the appalations in amerca
I'm a cousin too!
My father was an orange man…… 😄🇬🇧
Doctor blue or is it agent orange
At 1:58 there’s a painting reflecting in the mirror of mount errigal with is located in Gweedore county Donegal Ireland. Which is populated by Catholics who were sent there by prodestants.
Welcome to Ireland
Northern Ireland... come on now.
@@cherrypickle8332 depends on what side of the peace fence your standing on
Imagine these people think the world was made 6000 years ago.
That redheaded lady looks like Jimmy Cagney's younger sister.
He’s distraught
I'm too American to know what the orange sash means. Somethings they just don't teach you in school. I only see a cloth lol
In American terms...if you're Protestant, it's a symbol of ethnic and historical pride, like dressing up in a uniform or wearing a medal. If you're Catholic and you see someone wearing a sash, it's like seeing someone in a Klan robe or Nazi armband. Please note that I'm not saying the sash *is* equivalent to those things, but rather that it *feels* that way to Catholics. It's deeply sectarian.
SweetSirenia
Orangeism means Civil and Religious Liberties for all , including Catholics , however it would be opposed to Catholicism - papal infallibility , priestly confession , veneration of Virgin Mary , praying to Saints,.................
JT P Ah that's the opposite to what it means
Hatred! Bigotry!
Problem with an Orange sash? Maybe as an afterthought he was sorry for his choice to wear a largely orange t-shirt.