First Non-Muslim European Description of Mecca (1503) / Undercover Adventure of Ludovico di Varthema
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Any information about mecca and kaaba from early first century?
@@zhoubuzz6273 mecca was a pagan holy site and the kaaba was a temple, the main divinities worshipped there then were hubal, allat, al uzza and manat
The voices of the past are in the plants
@@alihebal7770 not pagans
Syriac sources say Ibrahim built it
@@achikahmedamine7101 that is just according to islamic tradition
-Meets a guy who is really nice to him
-"And this was accomplished by means of the money and other things which I gave him."
I feel you bro
Dude was nice, didn't rob him.
@@themonkeyhand Yeah man. I thought that too XD
@MSA3D A he is Italian. That's what's wrong with him
Tbh he said he got the Moor clothes etc with money. Not the friendship.
Nice to him? Where did you get that from? He was paid to do that obviously
Its crazy how Ludovico Knew about skillshare even back then, what a visionnary.
He learn arabic at skillshare, lol
Bro wdym? Skillshare has been around since the Renaissance
@@humanman2358 lot of scholars from christianity and jewish study in andalus and baghdad or maybe another city that have library. Its normal in the past.
was it just a medieval flex to say that the women weeped and lamented as I left lol
No, women were very respected in the Islamic world, there were many women of intelligence and powerful ones too, even odalisques were respected, and for 3 months an odalisque ruled Egypt
@@regularman5914 yeah the narrator is from Italy so it is definitely him flexing that he got a bunch of women to weep for him
@@leochillrud6255 which is stupid, these women were just being nice and respectful
@@regularman5914 that's Italian men for you
@@regularman5914 so what happened? Women are relatively the least respected in the Arab world today
The theory that others said that it was Rhino makes a lot of sense. Rhino in Arabic means "one-horned" and that could easily be mistranslated to unicorn. Besides, it was a gift from the king of Ethiopia where Rhinos live.
Marco Polo saw rhinos on his travels, and thought "lol, unicorns are a lot uglier in real life!"
yeah word to word translations literally translate to unicorn rather than rhino in its arabic writing
What about the lamentations of ladies lol
@@EM-tx3ly 😅 He was flexing or maybe they really liked him we will never know.
True lol
Italians like to flex a lot
"To the no small regret of the said ladies" Italians never change
And don't forget about the 15 y.o girl, lol
@@julianguastadisegno which time?
@@htoodoh5770 11:45
What i don't understand
@Elvis Musso context cannot be stressed enough here
Imagine being the slave with the pomegranate on his head. Someone risking your life to impress a stranger.
Mameluk were even more backwards than the Ottoman Empire
Likely you could go to there today and see the same thing
@@BoqPrecision yes, because they were Turkic people, they came into the Middle East as slaves or “memlukes”, they only wanted to fight and became savages in Cairo that even the sultan couldn’t stop them, but even though they were harsh in Cairo they were also strong and actually made some expeditions to Cyprus and restored the queen there I think or something like this, either way they made many attacks on Cyprus and defeated the mongols many times and the Nubians
@@regularman5914 and defeated the the 7crusade.
@@achikahmedamine7101 yeah I forgot about the crusades
I love how he basically goes like “how do you do my fellow Moors”
I'm just, uh, very pale 😅
Same energy as “flamey o hotman”
I laughed, but Moors are from north africa, these are Arabs.
@@CoramDeogenua lol how do you figure north Africa converted to Islam again.. Oh yeah they were conquered by Arabs.. There is no moor without Islam... Pre Islam north Africa they were called amazigh, Berbers by romans, the moors university in Spain taught Arabic
@@owenjohnson8800 as far as I know the native north african people call themselves amazigh (but not sure if all do)... the word moor is before islam, the romans had 2 provinces in north africa called mauritania and thus the inhabitants were called moors (dunno what the latin aquivalent is) by them
Very serendipitous of Ludovico that he ended up travelling to Makkah just in time for Hajj. Man didn't realize it but he ended up seeing the city at its busiest and most festive time.
Wasn't he traveling as a hajji himself?
@@LuisAldamiz correct but his real motive was to do reconnaissance for the Portuguese who would launch invasion of Jeddah and general red sea coast based on his accounts.
@@BoqPrecision - OK. I didn't know his exact background. Still he pretended to be a pilgrim.
it's probably Umrah and not Hajj. Hajj is longer in days and requires more things to be performed.
@@PicklePickle7 but it's eid al adha, so it is hajj
"Dude you wouldn't know her, she is from Mecca and goes to a different school"
*temple
@@konstantinpakhomov3910 there’s no temples in Mecca
@@user-zy8jv2ji5p kaaba complex is a temple
@@konstantinpakhomov3910 you can just call it the kaaba tho.
@@danialyousaf6456 meteor worshippers
Explanation for the unicorns: Rhinos. Unicorn is just Latin for one-horn, and that is exactly what rhinos are. Another source described unicorns as "like colossal grey horses, with a single horn on their head, and with a temper so foul they have to be contained in cages"
EDIT: This one however was more likely an Oryx, which fits the definition given far better. Possibly with one horn sawed off.
I get exactly what you are putting down.
@@lookoutforchris I’m picking up what he’s putting down before you can even do that
Lol no, why the say it is the most beautiful thing in thd world
That is incorrect. Unicorn = Arabian oryx.. Rhinos are far too huge to find enough food in the desert (and also need water/mud to cool off). "Unicorn" is what people from outside Arabia often thought when they saw an Arabian oryx from far away. They have 2 horns, but from certain angles it looks like they have one horn aka unicorn
Well done!
A small correction, the arabic word for rhinoceros وحيد القرن if you translate it word by word literally you get unicorn
Amazing! What a great fact
Also coming from Ethiopia, what else could it be?
@@LuisAldamiz maybe some guy glued a horn on a zebra 😂
@@BrutusAlbion - LOL, based on the images of the video it was a narval horn implanted on a rather fiery horse.
But based on the narration it was a rhinoceros.
@@LuisAldamiz I thought it was a rhino too at first thought ...
But now I am convinced some guy glued a narwhal horn on a poor zebra and made bank 😂
Actually the portuguese spy Pero da Covilhã visited Mecca some years before, he also travelled to India and Ethiopia and was not allowed to leave the later. Eventually in 1522 other portuguese visited Ethiopia and found him there, still alive. This guy had a great story.
obrigado pela informação, vou investigar mais! :)
Both that guy and this guy were greeted in Mecca by mamluks (slave soldiers), and huge number of them were of european origin and they were already living there.
Wow,I want to hear more
I just read up about him after reading this comment. Very crazy story
@@AABB-zb6dv Most Mamluke were Kipchak Turks who look European....Kipchak Turks have red hair, pale skin and light color eyes, just like the Tartar in Russia today which is their descendances. So they do look European. Baibar the Sultan of Egypt also look European because he is half Kipchak and half eastern European.
"Where are you from?"
Ludovico in Brad Pitt Italian: buongiorno! sono un Moor.
'Sono un Moro' in italian
arreeve durr chi
Jajaja
😂😂😂
GOR-LA-MI
I like how skillshare was already at Makkah when the European arrived
How else do you think the Mamluks honed their archery and saddle skills.
@@elithompson4167 uP
It’s how he learned Arabic.
Bro skillshare has been around since the Renaissance
With that buraak riding was learnt and jannat was reached, all thanks to skillshare
"Poor people care more about being hungry than absolving their sins" wow very insightful Ludovico
Erst kommt das Fressen und den die moral.
This might be true back in the days, my greart grand parents told my grandparents when they went their were arabs who would fight over their eaten watermelons. And then came the oil lol. But to be fair he talked about poor people not all
Absolving your sins 😂
Hey Arbaz can I ask where are u form?
@@progamer-hm6fnwhy the Fck do u care
Fun fact: Arabia Felix that was mentioned is the nickname given to Yemen which means fortunate arabia
Thank you I was confused what's an arabian felix is
@@tasyanabila9013 its the Roman name for Yemen. Felix Arabia meaning fortunate arabia.
@@yassertabikh5362 Pray can you let me know why Yemen was called Fortunate Arabia? Was it because of its proximity to the sea or something else? Thanks in advance!
@@rehthikrazdan5547 yeah its because Yemen had very fertile soil. Rivers, Rain and trade routs from Africa and India stopped there.
@@yassertabikh5362 Thank you!
The old saying fits yet again,
"We are Venetian _first;_ Christian _second._
Venetian trinity: money, money, money.
My Salic Frankish ancestors adopted Christianity for it's political influence and power. Also being a Lay Abbot was pretty lucrative.
Ehm...No. We are Christian First. Race, nationality and all others comes later.
@@alangervasis,
Who is this "We"?
@@fuferito same people that like saying "fellow white people"
Going to Mecca as Mamluk Pranks! [ALMOST EXPOSED!!]
😑
Why do you folks circumambulate, touch & even kiss a Shiva linga in Mecca?
@@rajarsi6438 Its not a Shiva lingerie, pajeot..
@@thenewcaliph766 It surely is, ignorant sectarian crybaby.
lmao
4:52 arabs kept that stunt to this day in the form of the "arab tire change"
Lol 🤣
Haha thought of the same thing
One of his descendants is probably running a tiktok stunt account nowadays using beaten old toyota camry.
I've seen this on youtube. My God they side wheeling their car.
Arabic speaker here,
-unicorn is a literal translation of Rhinoceros.
-By the ‘head of...’ is still a common way to swear to something precious in many Arab countries, like : By the head of my father and mother. Although swearing by Mohammed is forbidden in Islam as well as swearing by anything other than Allah as it is seen as a form polytheism, it’s still practiced in many Muslim communities. So it is interesting to know that it was also commonplace back then.
- I think he described himself as a Moore rather than as a Muslim, either because of the audience he is writing for and thats what Muslims were known for, or he must have used an equivalent Arabic word for a Muslim from North Africa.
This is such a great channel
It really is
Top 10 youtube channel for me
I just found this channel and this made me subscribe, I trust the comments of random strangers
It really is! It has just continue to peak my interest of the past and the different interactions that had happened throughout history
@@pattyboyz you won't regret it! I can get lost for hours in these videos.
Traveler: I hate Christians
Random dude: okay you can stay in my house, then 😍
Have you heard the won about a camel, Arab, and Jew?
@@f.puttstycker2784 one
@@mirzaahmed6589 the joke? On the road to Jerusalem from Morocco they set off...
@@f.puttstycker2784 And...
People were a lot friendlier back then.
If you read writings from colonial America it was common for travellers to sleep at stranger's homes.
Meccan Guards: What is your name stranger
Ludovico : Ladis
Meccan Guards: Ladis Who?
Ludovico: Ladees WashHarRooM
😂😂😂
😂😂😂
The dictator joke right??
@@rivlx Em ploice MuSwakhan
@@hando4880 that is a fake name tell me your real name
" unicorns"
"by the head of Mehmet"
"Mehmet be praised"
Lol, this is one special adventurer...
Medieval European mindset of some kind, perhaps unicorns= rhinoceros unicornis? LOL.
You have to include some BS to make the story more appealing xD
@@TahaWasiq Perhaps. Especially considering that they were a gift from the King of Ethiopia. Could also have been zebras.
@Hernando Malinche They have 2 horns. That would be Duocorns then.
Which showcases that these accounts are more fictions than real events. No way he could walk away alive if he ''swore on Mahmed's head''. This would have him in serious trouble, as this count as committing shirk, which is the greatest sin one can do in Islam. Associating partners with Allah swt.
"So this dude sees me in the Mecca's crowd and recognizes me as italian. Spaghetti pockets. I tell him that I'm actually roman but convert and he said "Based" and invited me to his house. Unexpected, but cool.
He asked me about the king of portugal. I said the king of portugal is a bitch and he said "Based" again. I suspect it's some sort of compliment.
I told him I wanted to get going so I meet some lads to find some christians an btfo them, and he said I'm "Super based, and also redpilled". I left the next day, to the dismay of the girls.
I still don't know how to translate some of the words they called me but I think I got away with this."
-Italian madlad, 1503
This is so accurate lol
Ibn Battuta's journey to Africa and Asia, please! :)
Also would like Afanasy Nikitin's travelogue if possible
That's a whole ass book
There is a BBC documentary on RUclips. "The man who walked across the world"
He will need a 100 video minimum .
Plewse I beg
Mecca and the Kaabah would be rebuilt several times before and after this account. Very cool to get a snapshot of one of those times!
Why was Mecca rebuilt so many times? Was it because of wars, natural disasters and fires?
@@MoamadTrashman wars
@@MoamadTrashman wars and natural disasters like floods
@@seekeroftruth5389 Thanks for the information
@@MoamadTrashman as well as just routine expansion/enlargement of the mosque grounds every few decades.
You'd have to give the modern Saudi Government some credit for expanding the holy sites and providing the resulting logistical support for the millions of pilgrims and visitors to Makkah.
Though I'm not a Muslim I found this video very educational. Peace and all things good.
There must be a first cause, which is the Creator
It is impossible for nothing to produce anything
God must have existed before creation
And it must be one, since there is only one will, the cause of everything
Where everything is created
He must have a will, since creater
He must have complete knowledge since He created everything
He must have full power as he created everything
the creation must be out of Creator
Let me give you an example (of course I do not liken myself to God Almighty, but for the sake of clarification)
If I made an invention, for example, a television
Am I going to say it came out of nowhere? Of course not, or I say it does not have a creator, the creator is the inventor
Will I be a part of it? of course not
Do I have a will when I made TV
Will I be fully aware of this TV? Yes
Is my strength in the moment of the television industry superior to the television (if we do not take the factor of time) (because God is outside time because time and space are created)
Yes
Will the Creator create creatures that have a nature and a different creation from the rest of creation (animals) (1 freedom of choice 2 awareness 3 language 4 mathematics)
Of course, the four virtues of Islam are part of the instinct that God created in man
And He taught Adam all the names, then showed them to the angels, and said, Inform me of the names of these men.
♦ The surah and verse number: Surat Al-Baqarah (31).
name = أسماء
Names mean languages, information, etc
It is the instinct that God has placed in human
Surah At-Tur verse 36
Were they created of nothing, or were they themselves the creators?[And] have they created the heavens and the earth? Nay, but they have no certainty of anything![How could they?] Are thy Sustainer’s treasures with them? Or are they in charge [of destiny]?Or have they a ladder by which they could [ascend to ultimate truths and] listen [to what is beyond the reach of human perception]? Let, then, any of them who have listened [to it] produce a manifest proof [of his knowledge]!
The universe cannot create itself, as if you say that my mother gave birth to herself. This is illogical. Where there is a point of not having it and not having children, so this is stupidity to say that nothing produces anything
You cannot find evidence for it (for example, mathematics cannot prove that 1 + 1 = 2 has no evidence, but we believe that it is true and certain without evidence
Likewise, language.
Why does man have language and not like animals, just voices of anger and distress, etc.? A riddle, and we have no evidence for the existence of language. You cannot prove that language is real. You cannot prove consciousness. You can't prove that you are real and exist, not just a dream or illusions
as well as the rest)
That is why humans are different from other creatures
Therefore, these four qualities must have a reason and a judgment
For example, the choice
So we choose to believe or not to believe in God
Language so that there is communication and knowledge of the existence of God
etc
(As well as the build the earth and make it better *)
Therefore, these four characteristics must have a reason
It's not just a blank
Now I have explained to you the Creator with logic and reason
away from any religion
But there is a gap. Did God create us and give us the four distinct qualities without benefit?
of course not
This gives the attribute of inferiority (Glory be to God Almighty).
God is perfect
The Messengers sent to every nation prophets,
As Allah said in the Qur'an .
and the last of them was Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace
Is there a religion other than Islam that does not contradict logical arguments?
There is no
The religions and philosophies of Central and East Asia
The Creator is present in all creatures
This is logically wrong
Christianity
(There are 3 gods and at the same time they are one and this is a contradiction)
The Creator regrets creation
The Creator did not know the harvest season
Doesn't know when the hour .
The Creator put a rainbow beside him so that he remembers not to drown the world in a flood. But he drowned them anyway .
God is the creator of the world, how can he be ignorant of something?
He is the creator of everything, he must possess the knowledge of everything
etc
We Muslims use Allah, not God
Because "God " is giving meaning that he is male
This is wrong
there nothing like Him
Allah Almighty
@@omar...4250
Cool
@@omar...4250 "There must be a first cause, which is the Creator" is like saying:
The answer is 10. And you know, I can prove it... 10 = 6 + 4.
(If there must be a creator, who created "Allah"? You might say that he doesnt need a creator.. but then we're again back to the cheap proofs)
@@oliveryt7168no, the whole point is that this causal chain must have a end that is outside of the causal chain. That is, outside the universe or just the realm we occupy. Not enclosed by the causal chain. That would be our definition of a creator. The whole definition of god is that he is unbound and uncreated. Asking why God could not have a creator goes against the very definition of God. It’s a senseless question.
I would love to see some videos done of my favorite explore, Sir Richard Burton!
He went undercover and took a trip to Mecca, and got circumcised to pass inspection, he translated the Kama Sutra and the 1001 Nights. There was a time he tried to learn the language of chips. He was a swordsman as well and was often criticized by his naturalist view with tribes, by joining in on the festivities instead of watching from afar like a proper Englishman.
It's often said he's one of the earliest modern anthropologists.
Thanks a lot for these videos, from a history lover from Norway.
Interestingly, a Venetian would probably be truly disappointed by the fact that the spices trade with India stopped going through the Middle East and started flowing around Africa through Portugal.
The Venetians were the main beneficiaries of the spice trade through Middle East and the main losers of the discovery of circum-African route to India.
Thanks for the nice editing
As a Saudi from Medina, I claim that since the death of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, until today, there has not been a hole in the mosque that was and still is of the same quality.
Thank you
These narrations are great. Nothing better as someone who loves history than to hear first-hand accounts.
Would love an episode on the Moorish descriptions of Visigoth Spain when they invaded it in the 8th century.
That'd be interesting indeed, although I doubt there are many texts, because it was the Dark Ages and the conquerors were soon called by the Caliph to be beheaded (just because he felt they had grown too powerful and dangerous).
I very vaguely remember some Moorish writing about what they thought about Spain when they first arrived, but it was a long time ago so now i'm unsure about the source or how reliable it was.
@@juffrouwjo - There must be something but unsure if it's personal accounts or rather cold administrative reports.
Yes, everything Muslim and Europe is what I really like.
Even better when it comes to Iberia.
The Spaniards destroyed a lot of Andalusian sources, libraries. Too bad. But there's still material you could find.
“A righteous companion is better than loneliness, and loneliness is better than an evil companion. A good writer is better than one silent, and one silent is better than an evil writer.”
- Abu Darda
عن ابن حبان قَالَ أَبُو الدَّرْدَاءِ رضي الله عنه الصَّاحِبُ الصَّالِحُ خَيْرٌ مِنَ الْوَحْدَةِ وَالْوَحْدَةُ خَيْرٌ مِنَ الصَّاحِبِ السُّوءِ وَمُمْلِي الْخَيْرِ خَيْرٌ مِنَ السَّاكِتِ وَالسَّاكِتُ خَيْرٌ مِنْ مُمْلِي الشَّرِّ
Just a shame some of the people who follow that teaching are also the ones who wrote or support islamic law and its horrible practices and contradictions between Hadiths and scripture based on their own backwards medieval interpretation of it. And the millions of muslims who support it and are not being labeled as radicals just due to not being part of Isis for some reason.
Ps:Just look at the responses. 9 angry people just because of me saying religious law brings horrible things eventhough I differenciate with the religion itself and I dont want to see it associated with those horrible things. Now you see what I mean when I say some muslims are delusional when they call themselves peaceful if they get mad just for saying that penalizing being gay or killing someone for leaving islam is bad. I dont get it.
@@alexcorvuscazador5596 Medieval interpretation oftentimes turns out to be more modern than contemporary interpretation it seems, atleast by christian standards. Very interesting how they went from being a model for tolerence in many cases to what they're considered today.
@@EvilSmonker
Who, the christians or the muslims?, both have advanced to a considerable certain extent of course, but sadly the latter is still many steps behind in comparison with the rest of religions as a whole for still having a worrisome number of countries and millions of people who lack heavily in the track record of secular non authoritarian fundamentalist goverments support, in this case islamic ones, in SOME cases.
And no this is not me being biased, just take a quick look at the non secular islamic penal codes of Saudi Arabia, Iran and Pakistan for example, you will be marveled. Of course not all the people of muslim majority countries and muslims as a whole are that brain dead to become like their non secular islamic goverments and their "non radical supporters" counterparts,for example secular Turkey and Indonesia. Theres still radical christians for sure but nowhere near in amount in comparison with muslims, not only Isis are the radical ones but also the ultra conservative ones who support medieval islamic law goverment and islamisim.
All the christian majority nations to my knowledge are secular and dont infringe in others human rights in the name of a religion due to the separation of church and state, as well as literally any other country exept for SOME muslims majority ones and their love of "cultural practices" like Sharia Law through the support stoning for the "crimes" of adultery and aposthasy as well as penalizing being gayand forcing all women to certain dress codes as in Iran, or not allowing the construction of churches as in Saudi Arabia and only allowing women to drive in 2011, or allowing the death penalty for any "offense" against islam or for leaving it in Pakistan, as if this were Medieval times.
But again, like I said, theres some examples of muslims majority countries adapting to the times, I am just surprised to see people and many moderate muslims just ignoring the ultra conservative ones who support all of those things and label them as "peaceful" just because they are not part of Isis, all the while complaini, about why islam has suck an image of violence attached to it, even more surreal when the islamists consider themselves "peaceful" just for not being part of Isis. Its also a shame most muslims inside of those countries actually agree with that, otherwise I think we would have seen more demostrations against it, for the most part only some actual moderate muslims who live abroad are the ones who criticize both Isis and the supporters of islamic law as the radicals they are and how bad of a name they give their religion, I seem to care more about it by always bringing this up and I am an atheist lol.
All of this in case you meant that Christians for the most part were the less advanced ones, when that does not seem to be the case overall, but of course like I said not all muslims support those things, but sadly literal millions do and support actual laws and entire fundamentalist non secular goverments to keep their countries on the dark ages. But of course theres also ultra conservative christians in every country, its just not as many as to form literal goverments around the concept. And if thats not what you meant I apologize for the essay.
@@alexcorvuscazador5596 You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
@@mahdiabderraouf5795 About what?, that there are some goverments with islamic law and all of the horrible practices which come with it, as well as exemplifying which ones in a very clear way?
So are you saying that islamic law does not exist in some countries now?,unless you recognize it does but actually agree with, hence the tone of the answer. In which case how peaceful of you, I feel bad for the actual moderate muslims who also call out abuses like stoning due to adultery and the penalizing of personal sexual orientations among many other things. I just acknowledged theres some non secular muslim majority countries which do that, obviously not all do it like that, as in the examples I also mentioned, even less all muslims. Like what else do you want of me?. Apparently I care more about islam than some muslims, since I acknowledge the existance of these abuses due to the horrible name they give a beautiful religion where theres also millions of people who actually try to practice it peacefully without having radical fundamentalist based laws dictate their lifes, some of whom have actually died fighting the goverments which promote those islamic laws.
More accurate than the Chinese report about it.
@Char Aznable During the past year, of course. /s
@Char Aznable
*_[This comment was deleted by the Chinese government]_*
@Char Aznable for a safe and secure society
This is supposedly a first hand account versus a historian hearing reports from traders based on other traders and etc.
Bro there's a 700 year gap between it
10:08 fake moor 2: (wait, that person doesn't look like a mamalouc. he might recognize me and out my disguise! i need to find a diversion) hey, man, where are you from?
protagonist: (oh shit, a real Moor! quick, act casual!) uuuh... from here, of course
fake moor 2: ... here where? are you a Moor?
protagonist: ah yes, i am a Moor, 100%. I am moorishly moor from Moorland
fake moor 2: oh really? what a coincidence! me too, 100% moor from Moorland
protagonist: oh, nice! ...
fake moor 2: ... come to my house
-And can you tell me what does your hometown looks like?
-my moorish town is very towny and very moorish. What about you?
-oh same here the floors are made of floor and the towns are towny. What do you do for living?
-i have a job.
-a job?
-yes. What about you?
-me too a job i have. A job at... place
-how did you learn italian?
-oh well i learned as you learned.
-oh me tooooo........
Mideval Islam was full of Christian and Jewish spies because Islam respect the person's privacy and Muslims were not nosy neighbours but rather would always be hospitable and welcoming and (except for the most isolated Bedouins or mountain tribes like Kurds) lacked suspicion and xenophobia to outsiders... especially urban centres like Cairo or Alexandra or Jeddah, etc.
Didn’t treat those mongol trade emissaries very well though
@@BoqPrecision historically, Muslims when unprovoked were friendly and respected people of other beliefs. As the seeking of knowledge had to surpass even religious boundaries.
Italians/ Erupeans: "Where are these Jewels and Spices/ Unicorns we hear so much about...?"
Desert Pesants: "Yes."
Says the astrologist 😂
they were there just not out on the street and especially not during hajj time when there expecting a Portuegese attack
1503, Europe had yet to cut down it's great primeval forests for their coming warship and city expansions, the oceans were still intact and fairly boiling with marine life.
The Med Sea wasn't the ecological desert it is today. Nature had yet to be mortally wounded. What a shame.
No-one cares about nature. Why do you worship nature? Nature isn't sentient. Would you care if someone destroyed a rock? I wouldn't care. In the same way, you shouldn't care about a tree.
@Ararune You seem angry lol.
@@timothymatthews6458 rolled 😂
Italian forests were cut in Roman times
1:03. “Ten short days’ journey ...” Hell, yeah, my guy. I’ve used Spirit and RyanAir, too.
What a clever man, and his account of his journey, fascinating !! I truly enjoyed it and thank you.
You know who's also clever, Donal Trump 😂
What's interesting to me is how attitudes we condemn constantly now - and make a great show of condemning - have been commonplace for most of our history. The William-Tell-like scene with the slave and the pomegranate for example, or the disgust at starving poor people. No kidding they were there for the food. They were starving FFS! Barely cooked mutton, cumber rinds covered in sand. What I love about this channel is that it never leads the witness. You present those accounts as written, letting viewers draw their own conclusions.
i really like this episode. thanks dude
What a fantastic story. Thanks for sharing.
Im not a Muslim but have always thought Mecca and the Hajj were pretty cool and interesting. Im a very social and extroverted person; so I can understand the appeal of it all. I bet the atmosphere* or "vibe" in that city is pretty special. The photographs are beautiful.
It not a promise you.
@@Coolinteresting876 it is, and as a non Muslim or Murtad...you don't speak for it
@@BoqPrecision or what? who are you to say who can speak about it and who not?
@@davids3282 I'm a Muslim and the holy sites ambience and aura should be described by Muslims, not anti Muslims...unless you are seeking bias confirmation.
@@BoqPrecision So muslims can't be bias! You seem most bias
This guy is so good. I want him to get a high paying job working on TV, but at the same time I want the RUclips content to keep coming
Notice the advertisement during the video? Keep watching he's making bank
Christ, fighting over Cucumber rinds, poor blighters.
The world must have been such a mysterious and large place before the industrial revolution
It was the age of European Imperialism, not the industrial revolution that put an end to that. True, it extended well into the 1900s, but it got its start with the Portuguese in the 1400s.
It was the Portuguese hellbent on cutting out the Islamic middle men from their trade with India & China that set the entire 'modern' world into motion.
And so he concieled me in his house with his wife.
Made me laugh
"I know not of this fugitive you seek, it is only my family here... my children, my wife... and her large, hairy sister for whom we cannot find a husband."
@@Clint52279 you made me crack up 😂
@@Clint52279 Beautiful my friend, Mehmet be praised.
How interesting, I thought Richard Burton was the first non Muslim to enter Mecca. Would be nice to hear his story.
God knows how many non-Muslims entered Mecca since the beginning of Islam.
Wouldn't be surprising if the number is in the thousands.
Yeah, after this story, maybe thousands have enter before. Even nowadays, there's some Israeli Jewish that's can successfully enter Mecca
a lot of people travels, they just dont record their story in books
Just consider the fact that during the Umayads, only ~10 percent of the caliphate population was Muslim. An empire stretching from Morocco to Iran.
The Ottoman empire, which controlled Mecca for a long time, had a large Christian population in the Balkans.
Chances are just very high that many traders traveled to Arabia, and Mecca.
@@ras573 Islam technically started in Medina.
Prophet had to capture Mecca and prophet was in good allies with Jews.
Went swimming in the Red Sea outside Jedda in 1999. Unbelievably AMAZING!
You’re welcome to visit us again. I will make sure to clean the Red Sea as much as possible just for you.
@@AbdoZaInsert Shukraan
@@AbdoZaInsert bro the red sea in jeddas shore need so much cleaning it will take us years before all the pollution is gone. the red sea project is pretty dope tho
@@AbdoZaInsertشقاعد تخربط انت
Damn, what a cliffhanger! I'd love to hear you narrate the whole thing!
Beautifully voiced story! I enjoyed it, thank you for sharing this exciting adventure
Hey Voices of the Past Can you please present "Marco polo's Description of India".
the portuguese terror was already being felt...
@Doge di Amalfi some somali guy literally beheaded vasco de gama's son, cristivao after crushing him and his forces in ethiopia
What fear are you talking about?
@@BALLARDTWIN they ultimately won that war, ethiopian blacksmiths learnt a lot from their portuguese counterparts and cristivao won some battles and raised the ethiopian morale.
@@mrmarmolerox ultimately won? How? How did Ethiopia or portugal win that war?
They got ransacked by oromo from the south and portugal converted a few Ethiopians to cathlicims which caused a civil war in Ethiopia for nearly 3 decades
It was a horrendous time to be Ethiopian
Not to mention somalis even attacked swahili coast freeing from from portuguese grip which is ballsy
My point is no one was scared of Portuguese
Replying to the first dude
@@BALLARDTWIN imagine pandering to s*malis
@@BALLARDTWIN portugal cutted off a bit of ottoman influence, ethiopia kicked the invaders out, thats a win, being left so weakened by that war leading to the following events is another story
The whole "I am a moor" exchange and the narrator's delivery of ir was so comical! I'm amused as hell 😂
"There was no giant robot coming out from the cube, disappointed by this Mecca"
~ Ludovico
This is one of the best content on youtube
"Wished to see everything"
Tourists, tourists never change
Knowledge is Power keep em coming ☺️
The classic Mameluke disguise trick.
*"Unicorns" = (latin,) Uni-cornus, (One horn), Latin name for Rhino = Uni-Cornus.*
The Unicorns he was referring to were NOT the mythical "unicorns" but Rhinos !
The unicorns were even given to the Sultan by an Ethiopian, they’re literally just rhinos
Dude I drank a couple pear ciders last night. And it's 4am and I'm literally just farting like gallons and gallons of farts.
Like there's no poop. I'm just blasting out farts.
@@hoochiecoochieman4530 dude same, i drink cheap beer, and wash of with milk. I fart boom boom boom non stop. I laughing if im fart. No smell just wind.
It mustve been so exciting to travel to far off lands in search of adventure...right now we're too late to explore the world and too early to explore space :/
We are lucky to be living in such an eventful time, we are at a vital point. Things are undergoing a great change
@@logat1847 Definitely! I just find the idea of exploration exciting
@@TonyTones123 diseases
robbers
slave traders
I'd rather explore the internet, do you realize how exciting internet is?
they were born too early, we are Justin TIme
@@zedibs muhamed was a capitalist
he raped slaves
and robbed caravans
islam is a rabic disease, do you know what rabies is?
@@worfoz as if none did those things 1400 years ago.
You're actually dumb to hold people from centuries ago to modern standards of morality
Thanks for this one! Do other Islamic related topics. I really would love to see 7th century sources on your channel. Try Sebeos history of Armenia, 660s CE.
They have quite a few videos by islamic writers or - like this video - by people travelling to islamic countries.
I do agree though, it's interesting and entertaining to hear about
@@tomhammer802 Yes, I have seen those videos, and as you said, it is indeed interesting to witness cross cultural encounters all they way back then....
Perhaps because I am aware of some of the *very earliest encounters between Christianity and Islam, such as the Khuzestan chronicle and the Armenian history, both written just a couple of decades after Muhammad's death, and by his non Muslim Contemporaries, I strongly recommend them to this Channel. Thanks!
@@TahaWasiq A good recommendation. I concur
First muslims europeans traveling to Meka they were iberians that converted to Islam in somepoint between medieval times.
I feel sorry for that slave
Same
I swear italians can recognize each other anywhere 😂
@Ararune you meant like the chefs hands?
@Ararune using both hands to make a point in the conversations Italian style? Is that one?
A lot of people saying the unicorn was a rhino but I believe the Arabian Oryx was also quite a popular middle eastern "unicorn", especially since some are born with one antler or sometimes the other one breaks.
They did say it came from Ethiopia though so maybe it was a rhino
Actualt China around this time went to Somalia and obtained a rhino and called it a unicorn and it would be smart to assume it’s a rhino as oryx would be less common in Mecca in the 1500s due to populations and how it would be hunted and due to the fact they would have been. Active for years previous but never been called so
Yes if I remember correctly the first descriptions of unicorns made it seem like a type of large goat or similar animal with a single horn that could not be domesticated.
@@cee-emm uni corn literally means one horn we know that has nothing to do with any animal without a horn or has more den one like a goat has 2
The Latin word is unicornus and therefore a rhino is a unicorn ...
@@misterbk1791 Actual descriptions of what were called unicorn described the single horn coming out of the head. Also lol yes I know the word unicorn means single horn, so the rhinocerous can be an accurate decription of unicorn. But I was explaining the early detailed descriptions of unicorns. I don't quite see how one can bring a rhinocerous or two across a desert for a sacrifice though. An arabian onyx would be a different story, and plenty of them are single horned.
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@@cee-emm no a rhino is a unicorn by definition and China called Somalia land of the unicorns because of the rhinos Arabians bought rhinos and called them unicorns they never called an oryx with one horn a unicorn
Please don't do ads in the middle of the videos. I wouldn't mit having them at the beginning or the end but hearing of skillshare whilst imagining historic Mekka just doesn't feel right
Your channel give me so much fallout 1 vibes, what a pearl in the wasteland i found!
5:13
He doesn't know about the Zemzem well.
WOW, what a story! Imagine winging your way through that, I’m impressed
In the 1600s the Kaaba was destroyed by a flood. It was rebuilt with freshly quarried stone and constructed three times bigger than the Kaaba that was there in the 1503.
But then again from the time of Muhammad the Kaaba has been destroyed and built anew 7 separate times.
The masonry and cement of the current Kaaba are obviously 20th century.
@@fantasia55 I don't know about that but I know it was completely rebuilt from scratch in the 1600s.
The original Kaaba was completely destroyed just after Mohammad's death and again in the 800s by the Qaramatians. In all it was destroyed 6 or 7 times which contradicts the Quran which says it can't ever be destroyed
@@tecumsehcristero What. Can I have that verse? Kaabah has been destroyed a lot of time either due to war, flood or earthquake.
@@tecumsehcristero No where in the quran is there a claim of " it can't ever be destroyed" infact we find the opposite in Islamic tradition specifically the Hadith of the prophet wishing to destroy the Kaaba and rebuild it to fit the original foundation that Abraham has set.
Sahih al-Bukhari 1586
Aisha said that the Prophet (ﷺ) said to her, "O Aisha! Were your nation not close to the Pre-Islamic Period of Ignorance, I would have had the Ka`ba demolished and would have included in it the portion which had been left, and would have made it at a level with the ground and would have made two doors for it, one towards the east and the other towards the west, and then by doing this it would have been built on the foundations laid by Abraham."
@@johoreanperson8396 the Kaaba came into its final form before AD 800. The flood that destroyed the Kaaba was in the early 1600s. That's 800 years after the Quran was finished. So why would it be in the Quran?
That's like saying the space shuttle doesn't exist because it doesn't appear in the Quran.
Where do you find your maps?? Your videos are very educational!
Ludovico should’ve had a RUclips Channel 🥱
@VoicesofthePast your thumbnail says "first european on Mecca", but that was actually Pero da Covilhã some 20 years prior
Portuguese guy here. What did our king do?
I could not find anything for this specific year...
another portuguese guy here so basicly our initial indian ocean policy was called "mare clasulum" which from latin means closed sea basicly control the indian trade and stop it from going into the middle east
the mamlukes were our biggest intial rival in this and as such probably the goods that were meant to go in mecca got blockaded/pirated by the portuguese
@@thesusposter48 I thought of that too, but the dates don't line up...
This is only 5 years after the discovery of the sea route to India (Brazil was only discoverd 3 years ago!) and more than 30 before the start of our wars with the Ottomans...
@@silveryuno yeah but before the wars with the mamlukes and ottomans there was a lot of regional pirating and blockading that isn't really super recorded
@@thesusposter48 It's definitely possible. Vasco da Gama established our first fortress in India this year!
Still feels a bit too early... But "mare clasulum" would have at least started in earnest this very year!
@@silveryuno just search portugese-ottoman wars
I’m loving these videos
9:23 note that these unicorns are most likely to be rhinos
Really cool video!
Positively fascinating.
Unbelievable how they had skillshare sponsorships all the way back then
You're a great storyteller!
It's funny dude didn't think they had enough water. They definitely did. The well still flows to this day.
Indifferent Agnostic's first description of Mecca, "Yeah. There was like...this big black cube, everyone was chanting some stuff, circling the cube, and touching it."
Awaiting the Doctor
Great video 👍
This needs to be a movie.
Ah of course, comment section about stuff related to Islam is pretty interesting
Never change internet, never change ❤️
Hey! I'm just wondering, what happened to the "life of a Manchu soldier" you said you were going to do?
Hi! Apologies, just in the jumble of working out what's next sometimes ideas get cut
The luck of the man to arrive at Mecca just in time for the Hajj.
05:10 something is wrong with this report. Mecca has Zamzam well, it has more than enough fresh & clean water since Abraham time
It was probably a Rhinoceros when he talks about unicorns
If you have ever read Pillars of the Earth the last passage reminds me a lot of the time Jack spent on the continent.
jeez it took me a while but i've finally found you, sensei...
what a great writer
Would love to hear the rest of his account.
Excellent !
Ayo I’m just a Mameluke, I’m walkin here. Keep it movin