@@francescolombardi3438 "And now you say, you want a Revolution?" - Iwata introducing the Wii (known as Nintendo Revolution then) back at E3 2004. Sorry, Nintendo already brought a Revolution to the industry ;P
I kinda disagree. You don't get props for delivering what you promised. He purposely mislead the public. Numerous times. He's a grown man, you shouldn't get a pat on the back for doing your job.
And the best (/worst?) thing is that it makes all other companys that didn't keep promises look even worse bc hello games proofed that you can recover even one of the most disapointing games ever and turn it an award-winning, genuietly good game.
Publishers or whoever over expected from little development studios to finish the game by the release dates. Overhyped by marketing and journalism PR, these factors too.
I bet No Man's Sky was just a special case. I honestly don't see even Bethesda being able to make such a huge comback like Hello Games did if they all of a sudden decided "Let's make Fallout 76 a good game now." because they'll just get shat on because people will be saying "Why didn't you do this in the first place?!"
@@CapitalTeeth It wouldn't fix it, but it would help massively to regain some of the trust of the players. Bethesda's biggest issue is that they DON'T try to fix their problems.
No man sky has 'Mixed' rating now only because of very negative start. Positive reviews now compensated all the negative before but it is still not enough to make overall rating positive yet UPDATE 08.09.2021: No Man Sky is no longer 'Mixed' - now it has next - 'Mostly Positive' rating :)
No, he said it jumped up to Positive and then jumped back down to Mixed - but reviews on Steam now take in recency to account. The truth is that it got bombed with a ton of positive reviews just because they went out of their way to make a ton of excellent improvements to the game without charging a single extra dime. But after that little honeymoon of "THE GAME IS SAVED!!", a lot of people started picking it up for the first time and reviewing it as a complete product. And it truly is... mixed. A lot of people like it, a lot of people still think the main issues of the original launch - lack of content and pointless grinding with no real end - are still present. It's upgraded from universally panned to decisive. The VR kinda sucked too, which means unfortunately the entire game was getting bombed with some negative reviews just for that one issue.
@@VanessaMagick In the steam you can see how game was reviewed starting from August 1 2016 and starting with December 2016 number of positive reviews each month was higher than negative. So currently in total there are 84122 (59.37%) positive and 57561 (40.63%) negative reviews. According to Steam rating system it is still 11% below first positive rating (70%): 95 - 100 | positive | overwhelming 85 - 100 | positive | very 80 - 100 | positive 70 - 79 | positive | mostly 40 - 69 | mixed 20 - 39 | negative | mostly 0 - 19 | negative 0 - 19 | negative | very 0 - 19 | negative | overwhelming If Hello games will continue good work they should reach that mark eventually.
@@VanessaMagick The reviews are still "Very Positive" and the VR did NOT suck. I don't know where you got that from. PSVR was downscaled but that was mainly due to hardware issues. VR on PC worked pretty much as intended except for bugs which are patched.
@@dangerousish7837 Hell, a gaming group I'm in states that he has the best redemption arc and that he gave them hope once more involving game companies.
Give Sean Murray credit, he listened to the criticism and made things better. That’s better than what some other game developers are doing. *cough cough* Todd!! *cough cough*
You shouldn't feel bad about it. Most, if not all of these issues, were never brought up during development, it took a lot of research to find out all this stuff.
Honestly even before finding all this out I felt bad for Sean. I knew that Hellogames was an indie developer and judging on his interviews when the game was doing its press run I could tell that he was under alot of pressure.
The reason it's at "mixed" is because the VR mode was really buggy when it first released and people got mad while forgetting the fact that pretty much every other company that did a VR mode made it a separate game at full price and this is a relatively small company, and then they added a synthesizer (beat maker not science machine) as a micro update and a bunch of idiots were like "why are you wasting your time doing this?"
Yeah but still, they could have done it. In their head it would had go like who cares we fixing the game they cant say something other companies have done it too. You sound like they didnt had good identions. Seriously you people always complain like whine babies.
The real reasons it's on mixed is because of it's launch. it never moved out of mixed. Recent reviews is, and have been for quite some time now, been at around very positive, except for the VR month, which was a good while ago now. but it wasn't that many reviews, with somewhere around 2100 negative and 3200 positive, but before and after it's been in the higher end of the scale for a long time now. But the first 4 months of it's life it had an incredible amount of negative reviews.
Mr. Original There’s an even better subtle layer to that. Besides the primarily used “REDACTED” voice, there are exactly three uses of the No Man’s Sky in-game computer voice as a censor. (1) When Sean begins to have his way with the young Pyro reporter, you hear the in-game voice say “Technology installed.” (2) As the first sex scene reaches its climax, the in-game voice says “Units received.” (3) Right after the final “every [REDACTED] procedural”, the in-game voice can be heard saying “Inventory full.” 🤣
For what it's worth in the opinion toilet part of youtube; Sean Murray WAS simply a victim of his own naivety, a dreamer in a world of narcissistic arseholes who thrive on denigrating other peoples dreams. Sean Murray has since proven HE IS a man of great integrity, honour and perseverance and a thoroughly good egg...
If only he didn't forget to add in the damn flood that happened to hello games that literally made them have to redo soooo much work to even make a playable game released because of sony.
yea but thats also the alternate reality where hitler was famouse for his anti war and anti racism speaches and became the first pope that also was a part time rapper.
I love watching them react to this. They started off hating Sean and calling him a liar. But then the video talked about all the stuff that hindered No Man’s Sky and you could see them warm up to Sean and Hello Games.
This is what big game companies should do, a small team literally had the game start bad but they kept working on it and made it better, yet big companies that had hundreds of staff and the money and yet they don't try fixing that one bad game and just do it for the money when they could have gotten more if they just made it good
I think big companies assume more people = faster production. In lots of cases it's true, but giving time for the products to be satisfactory means they cannot make money fast for their investors. They need yearly releases that make millions, not quality.
Big Companies are like Sharks they have to keep moving forward or they die...EA , Ubisoft Etc can't afford to Not make a game for 3 years to fix a game they already sold and to do it for Free? Nope..
Not really, it was ok for hello games to do what they did because they had a small team, they don’t have to keep the machine running 24/7 making money to pay for a big team, their initial sales can fund the company to work for a few years, and that’s what they did
@@gustavosilveira691 Lol no, big companies should absolutely be held responsible for not fixing a f'd up game they made. You can't make the argument "uuh, they have big team, therefor need to make new game to draw in money", usually big companies have multiple projects, they can easily continue working on lesser products to polish them without losing money. Big companies are just money-hungry morons, making flashy trailers to garbage games, ruining franchises for a quick buck. They'd make tons more money if they actually put in effort.
hello games was basically this. they had an idea. they saw what it could of been. and they wanted it to be that. but they wanted to accomplish too much in too little time. and over worked themselves and demoralized themselves with the over hype. and they were beaten like a mule until it died from stress. but they took a step back. re-organized. and pushed forward, taking their time this time. and as the months passed, as the game slowly began to grow and expand with their vision from years past. they had finally. accomplished what they saw. they had finally. reached for the stars
By Far the better come back from a devellopper , i really hope that this will inspire others devs that failed hard (not bethesda, no hope here, let's be serious)
They would have recovered if they really wanted to. But Bethesda's management is completely uninterested in anything other than maximum money through minimum effort. It almost seems like someone is planning to make off with a lot of money soon, leaving a burning ship behind.
"They wouldn't speak to the press again." "They went completely silent." Valve wised up to this fact during their Half-Life series. Although, they have kept so silent that the community is between not caring if anything is going on anymore to scrutinizing so much as even a twitter from anyone working at Valve (probably even whoever works in the cafeteria). Personally, I'd like a Half Life 3. But, I'm not living my life for it.
I've seen this video a few times allready, and each time at 1:00:20, i have a tear in my eye... I was part of the first people who played the game and litteraly shat on them poor basterds, but now i'm happy and impressed that they worked hard to win the players trust back and are trying to gave us a better game than what we bougth( and all for free). Its the best redemption in the industry, other devs should learn from them (...Todd...)
I've been watching a lot of reaction videos lately and the algorithm recommended me your channel. Now that I've seen a good 3 or 4 reaction channels at this point I think of myself as something of a connoisseur, an expert, someone who's earned their Doctorate of Philosophy a dozen times over on reaction videos. With the controversy about some of these channels getting sued, I'm gonna say that I think they 100% deserve it. They just play someone else's video with their face in the corner of the screen grunting every so often and pausing the video maybe once or twice to say one or two things. I really appreciate how any times you guys paused it and added context or your own thoughts on parts of the video. Don't ever catch yourself doubting if you should be doing that as much as you do, that is the entire basis for why videos like this should even be allowed to exist.
48:00 short: majority of the players to be frank were bit stupid on how to figure out it so they had to remove it. it is what it is. it sounds like a cool idea but you ahve to note those super detail gamers initally are only about 20%. the rest extremely honest here are plebs that only jump in for hype or wtf is the game about with minimal to gathering/flight gaming knowledge.
Yes but it's also a testament to how slippery marketing can be. While having backing money is good and important. Having the time to make that game is just as, if not more important. I mean yeah people gotta eat and stuff so it's not like I don't understand them taking the offer. But once they were free from that they showed what they could do if they just had the free time to focus on it.
I liked hearing Hello Games side of the story. Never played No Man's Sky, had zero investment in this situation, but I saw lots of the hype and lots of the backlash so the first half of the video was familiar but the second half was completely new to me. And to compare the way Hello Games handled the disaster to the way Bethesda did is just unreal.
It’s interesting seeing it from the outside and how bad they look. Then you approach it from the inside and you see how everything happed the way it did.
Glad I learned years ago to avoid hype trains (Fable 2 being the game that taught me this). Honestly, watching the first half, I do feel a bit bad for the team. Mistakes were made and they ended up going through a whole lot of hell they couldn't get out from under. And they really seemed to pick up the pieces as the end. I'm just glad no deaths came from all the negativity and beating.
They didn’t fuck up recently. The “mixed” review of late is a frankly baffling reaction to a micro update that had a strange extra feature people apparently thought was a “waste of dev time.”
When I went to planet Lennon in the original Galactic Hub, those Huge Diplo's were there. I had one ejector seat experience. I landed on a planet and it ejected me so far it was a 6-hour walk back to my ship. Don't let the negative reviews make you not try it again. Play it and give it 10 hours. BTW: It's currently on sale right now for 50% off.
About 5 times in this video I left fullscreen to like it. This is the reason I love this channel so much you actually react to the video you don't just have a 55 minute reaction to a 53 minute video. You guys actually react to it and don't just re release someone else's content with your face in the corner nodding every once in a while. That way even after watching the video myself on the included channel I know I can come watch it here as well and get something new out of it. Thanks for the reaction.
"Its almost like Sean's inspiration is from a guy called Peter Molyneux." Well they are both from Guildford. Tells you a lot about... Guildf- Gu- Guildfordians?
I like that everyone I see react to this basically has the same arc of "Wow, fuck Sean, the lying ass." to "Man, people were really harsh on him, he went through a lot, what a nice guy."
I was one of the people who shat on Sean because of what looked like lying. But once I saw their hard work to fix the game I was one of the people who helped fund the billboard and I got even more regretful of my actions when shitting on them when I saw this video.
I'm back to rise! I'm back to Flow! I'm back to rise! Back to soar! Back to roar, let the truth be told I feel on fire with my passion, oh! I'm back to rise!
The people who actually ran into those planets were pretty disappointed when they made them super common. I reckon everyone would have loved the original rarity if they didn't have so much reason to doubt they even existed.
2024, No Man's Sky is still getting regular massive expansion-sized updates. Got one just a little over a month ago. Even got a Switch port fairly recently.
That was the initial problem with the game in a nutshell. The release date overrode the product itself, so it was shipped out unfinished. What the game eventually _became_ is fine, but it shouldn't have been released at half-mast to begin with. Yes, you need to meet a deadline. But if the deadline makes your product worse as a result, then fuck the deadline and continue developing until your product is _ready._ It's not fucking rocket science. If you make an announcement to your fans that your game isn't finished, but is still coming out, then actually release footage of additional developments currently underway (if those developments are real, of course), then 9 times out of 10 your fans will understand. They'd rather have a completed product than an unfinished, unpolished mess. I'm looking at you, Bathesda. But really, it's the comeback story that I'm here for. Hello Games fucked up and couldn't deliver... but then they kept trying. They didn't stop with a broken, unfinished mess. I'm disappointed in them for releasing it the way it originally was, but I'm also proud of them for owning up to their shit and continuing to work on the game in order to make something better.
Maybe because it's so well known they don't need to say it again? You know it, I know it, anybody who kept/keeps up with No man's sky knows it. Why not just move on and talk about other things.
"My life for Ner'zhul" - most underrated joke in the video. Basically making fun of Raid for looking like Warcraft. Also, Internet Historian could probably make a lot of money from making ads, and I would probably watch them.
After watching the video when it came out I went back to No Man's Sky I got it on sale a while ago but couldn't get into mainly cause I had a bunch of other games to play like Red Dead Redemption 2 and Stardew Valley (almost 200 hours on PlayStation and I just got it on pc as well help me I'm obsessed!) but I decided to give it another chance after hearing about how much work the devs put in to make it better and... I'm enjoying it. It's not perfect but it's a fun game to play while listening to a livestream and just exploring and I think you guys would enjoy it especially Co op. Although I'll warn you the first hour or so can drag as you learn things and get your ship and equipment squired away but after you get into space with a hyper drive it's a blast. As for update size of my digital copy on my ps4 is about 17 GB fully updated so should be fine.
Big issue I always had is that those interview people keeps asking for features and it clearly indicates 'we want this!' and it's extremely hard to say no when you WANT to ensure people will enjoy your game. Rather than ask - what is the gameplay like? What are the top features in your mind within the game? etc. And the fact people never understood that Hello Games were a tiny indie studio. Issue was of course also some missteps on Sean's end but still, we are talking years-prior interviews and mentionings.
Quits job and takes a huge risk starting his own business, sells his house and if that wasn't bad enough he decides to have 3 kids in bad financial situation. I can't believe how some people willingly make life so hard on themselves.
Good look at the vid good discussion I personally was a bit bummed they got forced by Sony's hand and couldn't delay further or release it as a Early Access I adore the game in its current state. All that they have added plus even full modding support its brilliant considering the size of the Team that made it.
@@jazzycat8917 However that in itself can be a fairly disastrous thing. No Man's Sky proving that goodwill from a poor launch can be re-earned by simply doing what they should have done all along? Now we can do the same, but perhaps without the same intention to really pour some elbow grease into our game while making it seem like we still are working on things.
@@demon2441 Like the video said, they are a *new* studio that is undercrewed for the hype the game got combined with disaster after disaster coming to them (flooding, lawsuits, etc.). Not saying they're totally blameless. It's just that most studios wouldn't have the same excuse. Even if they did, it's a terrible thing to do since most investors are more interested in the immediate return for their money a few days after launch, not months or years. Money-hungry companies wouldn't do what Sean did here.
@Allen Harper There are studios that consistently ship out glitchy, sub par products and never fix them. Warner Bros PC ports come to mind. While I certainly appreciate hello games going the extra mile, I don't ever think it should be the norm. Is there anything wrong in wanting a completed product.
Criticism is not toxic, but sending death, bomb and or rape threats to developers, their private offices/home addresses and or even their families as well as against people for just mentioning a video game release date will be delayed as shown in the video is highly toxic and yes that was the GAMING community who did that.
Yea, imagine maybe driving someone to suicide because you thought the game was bad or you're upset that it's delayed.. Like.. Yikes... Some people really have no lives..
These people could take the money and decide what to do with it on their own. Big studios can not do this. Just a reminder. I'm sure there are people exactly like this guy working in big studios but they simply have no say.
As for TOXIC FANDOM... I always thought that was just a marketing device to attack critics by conflating them with trolls & serial harrassers indiscriminately. Then I found out about Reylos. Now I'm a believer.
I just ... wanna know how people didn't see it coming. Sure i'm GLAD the game is good now. But like. The red flags were there from the start and I didn't hear about the game till it was about to come out. That astronomical number of procedurally generated planets ALONE told me this game was to good to be true. So I sat there drinking my tea waiting for the review bombs. I was very surprised to see it rise from the ashes. But hey! I'm never gonna bash developers that actually put in the effort to FIX their game.
There is 2 studios i wil put faith in based on their actions. 1-CDRP xor always triving to give quality games and not take their player base for fools or cash cows. 2-Hello Games for been able to come back from something that would have been a Death sentence for anyone else qnd win back through their efforts, the Players Trust and respect. They are what other studios should aspire to be.
Well CDPR has unfortunately put out an unfinished game now. They can redeem themselves, but they will have to do exactly what Hello Games did. Fix the bugs and add the content, that they cut out, but was promised. Only then will I forgive. Only then will they earn my trust back. No one is too high to fall and no one is too low to rise if they want to (this here is some hardcore generalizing by me, because there are exceptions to this rule, for example some do not get a second chance because of factors that they don't control, but you get the point)! No wait, the point must be, that we should not judge too quickly and instead see all the sides of the story.
@@rastislavvassilev8157 They won't do that. They don't think there's anything wrong with the content. They insist the only issue is bugs. Cyberpunk will never get the No Man's Sky treatment. CDPR lied, released a broken game, and are only going to do the bare minimum to fix it.
I've owned the game for maybe a year now, and I had heard about the failed launch, but hadn't really paid attention to it. After seeing them win the Best Ongoing Game Award at the Game Awards 2020, I was wondering why a game that I thought was despised by the community (although I love it, possibly because I've got it post-patches) won such an award. Now I see it. That's probably the best possible award for them, rewarding the years they've put in the game to redeem it. That's a great and really inspiring story right there.
No Mans Sky was a complete mess at launch, but the developers got of their seats and got to work to fix it. After all the backlash, they delivered what they promised
If you're interested in hearing about Pokemon's business model, Knowledge Hub has a great video about it. The games don't need to change format because their primary source of income comes from merchandise, not the games. Games only make up 15% of their total profits, and only serves to create new pokemon to be sold as collectable merch. Even if the game sells poorly, the new pokemon in the game can still be sold as merch.
The problem is that it ends up being Gamefreak that takes the fallout when they half-ass the games... the Pokemon Company makes the money from the merchandise while Gamefreak has to deal with the fanbase. And then, the Pokemon Company has a lot of pull over how many games come out and so on, making the situation even worse for Gamefreak.
NMS literally just got a new update out of nowhere this game will never die, i love hello games, what a fucking comeback. They care about their community.
Sean Murray had the best redemption arc of any anime character this past decade.
What this gaming industry needs is
revolution
@@francescolombardi3438 It has a Revolution. I'm just hoping that Beyond a Steel Sky is good.
@@francescolombardi3438 "And now you say, you want a Revolution?" - Iwata introducing the Wii (known as Nintendo Revolution then) back at E3 2004. Sorry, Nintendo already brought a Revolution to the industry ;P
@@Facelessify1 r.i.p. iwata
I kinda disagree. You don't get props for delivering what you promised. He purposely mislead the public. Numerous times. He's a grown man, you shouldn't get a pat on the back for doing your job.
In case you haven't seen it:
Sean himself retweeted IH's video with a warning to not watch beyond the 45 minute mark under any circumstances.
Rhythmic Soul and that is the part where the video focuses on Sean and Hello Game’s history?
Nope, it's the...fanfiction part.
Also because of the "Every [SEAN] Procedural" joke.
@@Dr.Oofers It's the fanfiction part
That’s amazing.
And the best (/worst?) thing is that it makes all other companys that didn't keep promises look even worse bc hello games proofed that you can recover even one of the most disapointing games ever and turn it an award-winning, genuietly good game.
Publishers or whoever over expected from little development studios to finish the game by the release dates. Overhyped by marketing and journalism PR, these factors too.
sucks cuz there's some that wouldn't try fixing the gsme
I bet No Man's Sky was just a special case. I honestly don't see even Bethesda being able to make such a huge comback like Hello Games did if they all of a sudden decided "Let's make Fallout 76 a good game now." because they'll just get shat on because people will be saying "Why didn't you do this in the first place?!"
With only 15 people too.
@@CapitalTeeth It wouldn't fix it, but it would help massively to regain some of the trust of the players. Bethesda's biggest issue is that they DON'T try to fix their problems.
Sean Murray is the Chaotic Good to Todd Howard's Chaotic Evil
Its that or they are true good, only with a introverted goblin personality
@@FinnishCrystal True good is not an alignment at the moment.
@@tartarustrommler5454 sure, then he is good good boy
@@FinnishCrystal so Neutral Good?
No man sky has 'Mixed' rating now only because of very negative start. Positive reviews now compensated all the negative before but it is still not enough to make overall rating positive yet
UPDATE 08.09.2021: No Man Sky is no longer 'Mixed' - now it has next - 'Mostly Positive' rating :)
No, he said it jumped up to Positive and then jumped back down to Mixed - but reviews on Steam now take in recency to account.
The truth is that it got bombed with a ton of positive reviews just because they went out of their way to make a ton of excellent improvements to the game without charging a single extra dime. But after that little honeymoon of "THE GAME IS SAVED!!", a lot of people started picking it up for the first time and reviewing it as a complete product.
And it truly is... mixed. A lot of people like it, a lot of people still think the main issues of the original launch - lack of content and pointless grinding with no real end - are still present. It's upgraded from universally panned to decisive.
The VR kinda sucked too, which means unfortunately the entire game was getting bombed with some negative reviews just for that one issue.
@@VanessaMagick In the steam you can see how game was reviewed starting from August 1 2016 and starting with December 2016 number of positive reviews each month was higher than negative. So currently in total there are 84122 (59.37%) positive and 57561 (40.63%) negative reviews. According to Steam rating system it is still 11% below first positive rating (70%):
95 - 100 | positive | overwhelming
85 - 100 | positive | very
80 - 100 | positive
70 - 79 | positive | mostly
40 - 69 | mixed
20 - 39 | negative | mostly
0 - 19 | negative
0 - 19 | negative | very
0 - 19 | negative | overwhelming
If Hello games will continue good work they should reach that mark eventually.
@@VanessaMagick The reviews are still "Very Positive" and the VR did NOT suck. I don't know where you got that from. PSVR was downscaled but that was mainly due to hardware issues. VR on PC worked pretty much as intended except for bugs which are patched.
@@dangerousish7837 Hell, a gaming group I'm in states that he has the best redemption arc and that he gave them hope once more involving game companies.
Vanessa Magick Well people weren’t charged for the VR support, so it’s not that bad of an issue.
Give Sean Murray credit, he listened to the criticism and made things better. That’s better than what some other game developers are doing. *cough cough* Todd!! *cough cough*
Both your faces said everything. As the video progressed you seem to understand more and more, like me and many others.......
I felt bad
You shouldn't feel bad about it. Most, if not all of these issues, were never brought up during development, it took a lot of research to find out all this stuff.
I didn't even know about all this stuff past the fact that this game was a thing, and even I felt bad for Sean and his team...
Same
Honestly even before finding all this out I felt bad for Sean. I knew that Hellogames was an indie developer and judging on his interviews when the game was doing its press run I could tell that he was under alot of pressure.
The reason it's at "mixed" is because the VR mode was really buggy when it first released and people got mad while forgetting the fact that pretty much every other company that did a VR mode made it a separate game at full price and this is a relatively small company, and then they added a synthesizer (beat maker not science machine) as a micro update and a bunch of idiots were like "why are you wasting your time doing this?"
It's also got all the negative reviews from release it has to balance out before it can start climbing into the positives.
Yeah but still, they could have done it. In their head it would had go like who cares we fixing the game they cant say something other companies have done it too. You sound like they didnt had good identions. Seriously you people always complain like whine babies.
@@bartsimpsonyellowmenace3780 Thank you for the list of every word you know, but what does that have to do with No Man's Sky?
@@creeperhunterD wtf are you even talking about
The real reasons it's on mixed is because of it's launch. it never moved out of mixed. Recent reviews is, and have been for quite some time now, been at around very positive, except for the VR month, which was a good while ago now. but it wasn't that many reviews, with somewhere around 2100 negative and 3200 positive, but before and after it's been in the higher end of the scale for a long time now. But the first 4 months of it's life it had an incredible amount of negative reviews.
Nobody:
Internet Historian: "Sean Murray erotic fan-fiction, and I figured you all would like to see it."
Everyone: "How did you know?"
Who wouldn't want to watch a fanfiction clip or show
@@matthewyang2543
The visuals he gave to the story only made it better. And heaven forbid, that text-to-speech "REDACTED."
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Mr. Original There’s an even better subtle layer to that. Besides the primarily used “REDACTED” voice, there are exactly three uses of the No Man’s Sky in-game computer voice as a censor. (1) When Sean begins to have his way with the young Pyro reporter, you hear the in-game voice say “Technology installed.” (2) As the first sex scene reaches its climax, the in-game voice says “Units received.” (3) Right after the final “every [REDACTED] procedural”, the in-game voice can be heard saying “Inventory full.” 🤣
@@m.hunterstevie2081
I always appreciate those subtle things. Frickin' brilliant.
What's your name?
Rey...
Rey what?
ReyD SHADOW LEGENDS.
Hopefully Raid makes enough money to but the rights to star wars and stop Disney from making more shit movies.
_ Spooky they already have stopped making Star Wars movies.
For what it's worth in the opinion toilet part of youtube;
Sean Murray WAS simply a victim of his own naivety, a dreamer in a world of narcissistic arseholes who thrive on denigrating other peoples dreams.
Sean Murray has since proven HE IS a man of great integrity, honour and perseverance and a thoroughly good egg...
Internet Historian is one of the best content creators out there, hands down.
Have to agree. When people react to your content is because you're doing awesome stuff.
If only he didn't forget to add in the damn flood that happened to hello games that literally made them have to redo soooo much work to even make a playable game released because of sony.
@@zackrose6261 Did we watch the same video? It WAS mentioned...
@@STVGozando "Etika Reacts to Budd Dwyer Suicide"
@@zackrose6261 he did mention it
In some alternate reality, Sean Murray made Fallout 76 and Todd Howard made No Man’s Sky
Nah Todd isn't that great.
yea but thats also the alternate reality where hitler was famouse for his anti war and anti racism speaches and became the first pope that also was a part time rapper.
@@yowtfputthemaskbackon9202 lol
...and Fallout 76, along with Sean, went on the redemption arc instead.
Hmm.
And in Fallout 76, It's the best game in the world.
Hello games keeps hammering away at bugs, have to say they’re better than many AAA game studios now. I’m looking at you Bethesda.
EA and Dice as well. Dice can’t fix bugs
Tanner true my friend
@@tanner5809 all three of those companies keep rolling natural ones on there bug fixing checks.
I will not forgive bethesda
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What can I say except you're welcome
Thanks Caleb!
Thanks, Caleb!
Thanks Caleb
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Thanks caleb
I love watching them react to this. They started off hating Sean and calling him a liar. But then the video talked about all the stuff that hindered No Man’s Sky and you could see them warm up to Sean and Hello Games.
This is what big game companies should do, a small team literally had the game start bad but they kept working on it and made it better, yet big companies that had hundreds of staff and the money and yet they don't try fixing that one bad game and just do it for the money when they could have gotten more if they just made it good
I think big companies assume more people = faster production. In lots of cases it's true, but giving time for the products to be satisfactory means they cannot make money fast for their investors. They need yearly releases that make millions, not quality.
Big Companies are like Sharks they have to keep moving forward or they die...EA , Ubisoft Etc can't afford to Not make a game for 3 years to fix a game they already sold and to do it for Free? Nope..
Not really, it was ok for hello games to do what they did because they had a small team, they don’t have to keep the machine running 24/7 making money to pay for a big team, their initial sales can fund the company to work for a few years, and that’s what they did
@@gustavosilveira691 Lol no, big companies should absolutely be held responsible for not fixing a f'd up game they made. You can't make the argument "uuh, they have big team, therefor need to make new game to draw in money", usually big companies have multiple projects, they can easily continue working on lesser products to polish them without losing money. Big companies are just money-hungry morons, making flashy trailers to garbage games, ruining franchises for a quick buck.
They'd make tons more money if they actually put in effort.
hello games was basically this.
they had an idea. they saw what it could of been. and they wanted it to be that. but they wanted to accomplish too much in too little time. and over worked themselves and demoralized themselves with the over hype. and they were beaten like a mule until it died from stress. but they took a step back. re-organized. and pushed forward, taking their time this time. and as the months passed, as the game slowly began to grow and expand with their vision from years past. they had finally. accomplished what they saw. they had finally.
reached for the stars
They reached for the stars like in sonic colors
It's like halo 2 but halo 2 wqs great despite cut content and terrible difficulty spike.
It was sony hyping it to a triple AAA title with a indie development team giving that team very little time to work.
By Far the better come back from a devellopper , i really hope that this will inspire others devs that failed hard (not bethesda, no hope here, let's be serious)
They would have recovered if they really wanted to. But Bethesda's management is completely uninterested in anything other than maximum money through minimum effort. It almost seems like someone is planning to make off with a lot of money soon, leaving a burning ship behind.
At this point, we can really only hope that CD Projekt Red buckles down like this and keeps hammering away at Cyberpunk 2077.
"They wouldn't speak to the press again." "They went completely silent."
Valve wised up to this fact during their Half-Life series. Although, they have kept so silent that the community is between not caring if anything is going on anymore to scrutinizing so much as even a twitter from anyone working at Valve (probably even whoever works in the cafeteria). Personally, I'd like a Half Life 3. But, I'm not living my life for it.
Well say no more my friend, with the release of Half Life Alyx we might *FINALLY GET HALF LIFE 3*
Valve has died.
They died the day they announce that they cancelled Half Life 3
@@n124ajdx cringe take
I've seen this video a few times allready, and each time at 1:00:20, i have a tear in my eye...
I was part of the first people who played the game and litteraly shat on them poor basterds, but now i'm happy and impressed that they worked hard to win the players trust back and are trying to gave us a better game than what we bougth( and all for free).
Its the best redemption in the industry, other devs should learn from them (...Todd...)
I've been watching a lot of reaction videos lately and the algorithm recommended me your channel. Now that I've seen a good 3 or 4 reaction channels at this point I think of myself as something of a connoisseur, an expert, someone who's earned their Doctorate of Philosophy a dozen times over on reaction videos.
With the controversy about some of these channels getting sued, I'm gonna say that I think they 100% deserve it. They just play someone else's video with their face in the corner of the screen grunting every so often and pausing the video maybe once or twice to say one or two things.
I really appreciate how any times you guys paused it and added context or your own thoughts on parts of the video. Don't ever catch yourself doubting if you should be doing that as much as you do, that is the entire basis for why videos like this should even be allowed to exist.
48:00 short: majority of the players to be frank were bit stupid on how to figure out it so they had to remove it. it is what it is. it sounds like a cool idea but you ahve to note those super detail gamers initally are only about 20%. the rest extremely honest here are plebs that only jump in for hype or wtf is the game about with minimal to gathering/flight gaming knowledge.
Crazy diamond reformed him and this game .
I had to miss the end of the video discussion and just saw it , nate and nick speaking the truth through and through .
DORADORADORADORADORADORA
"So Todd, if I get to work without expecting a profit in the repair stage, that makes this a fair fight, doesn't it?"
@@rararasputin8608 the highway star arc and its character dev's are some of my favorite in the entire series , hope you guys have a good day .
I've actually gotten addicted to the game now which is so weird to say.
No Man’s Sky, or Raid Shadow Legends?
@@kwakerjak No man's sky
In my case both
Sean Murray is the Elseworlds version of Todd Howard.
Longshanks... is it you?
I'm seeing you everywhere, lmao.
11:02 Jay Exci?
Hello Games is the Gold-Standard for how a company should react to their game sucking
Yes but it's also a testament to how slippery marketing can be. While having backing money is good and important. Having the time to make that game is just as, if not more important. I mean yeah people gotta eat and stuff so it's not like I don't understand them taking the offer. But once they were free from that they showed what they could do if they just had the free time to focus on it.
I liked hearing Hello Games side of the story. Never played No Man's Sky, had zero investment in this situation, but I saw lots of the hype and lots of the backlash so the first half of the video was familiar but the second half was completely new to me. And to compare the way Hello Games handled the disaster to the way Bethesda did is just unreal.
It’s interesting seeing it from the outside and how bad they look. Then you approach it from the inside and you see how everything happed the way it did.
Hell yeah, I’ve been waiting for this reaction. I can’t wait to hear your opinions on it. Or see your reactions to the last four minutes.
Glad I learned years ago to avoid hype trains (Fable 2 being the game that taught me this). Honestly, watching the first half, I do feel a bit bad for the team. Mistakes were made and they ended up going through a whole lot of hell they couldn't get out from under. And they really seemed to pick up the pieces as the end. I'm just glad no deaths came from all the negativity and beating.
They didn’t fuck up recently. The “mixed” review of late is a frankly baffling reaction to a micro update that had a strange extra feature people apparently thought was a “waste of dev time.”
Clearly, you now have to move on to IH's readings of other fanfiction, like My Immortal and Sonic High School.
I second this motion.
I third this motion.
I fourth this motion
I fifth this motion
I sexth...sixth this motion
When I went to planet Lennon in the original Galactic Hub, those Huge Diplo's were there.
I had one ejector seat experience. I landed on a planet and it ejected me so far it was a 6-hour walk back to my ship.
Don't let the negative reviews make you not try it again. Play it and give it 10 hours.
BTW: It's currently on sale right now for 50% off.
"The universe fights me everyday." Bruh I felt that one
About 5 times in this video I left fullscreen to like it. This is the reason I love this channel so much you actually react to the video you don't just have a 55 minute reaction to a 53 minute video. You guys actually react to it and don't just re release someone else's content with your face in the corner nodding every once in a while. That way even after watching the video myself on the included channel I know I can come watch it here as well and get something new out of it. Thanks for the reaction.
"Its almost like Sean's inspiration is from a guy called Peter Molyneux."
Well they are both from Guildford.
Tells you a lot about... Guildf- Gu- Guildfordians?
I would let Internet Historian [redacted] [redacted] [redacted] [redacted] and my bicycle [redacted] [redacted].
I like that everyone I see react to this basically has the same arc of "Wow, fuck Sean, the lying ass." to "Man, people were really harsh on him, he went through a lot, what a nice guy."
I was one of the people who shat on Sean because of what looked like lying. But once I saw their hard work to fix the game I was one of the people who helped fund the billboard and I got even more regretful of my actions when shitting on them when I saw this video.
I'm back to rise!
I'm back to Flow!
I'm back to rise!
Back to soar!
Back to roar, let the truth be told
I feel on fire with my passion, oh!
I'm back to rise!
last place I'd ever expect this to appear, especially considering I've been listening to the killer instinct soundtrack for the last 3 weeks. XD
@@WippleNut No Man's Sky: I'm on the comeback
Those diplos from the E3 trailer were in the game at launch, just super, SUPER rare.
Edit: And walking sentinels as well
The people who actually ran into those planets were pretty disappointed when they made them super common. I reckon everyone would have loved the original rarity if they didn't have so much reason to doubt they even existed.
@@normalmighty Yeah, pretty much. People just got bored at the lack of content really early in the game
I wonder why 😑
now this is a comeback story
Until you get to the end and realize it's a Cumback story
🤣
@@tulipalll oh no...
SSSHHHHAAAAUUUUUUNNNNNN!
2024, No Man's Sky is still getting regular massive expansion-sized updates. Got one just a little over a month ago. Even got a Switch port fairly recently.
That was the initial problem with the game in a nutshell. The release date overrode the product itself, so it was shipped out unfinished. What the game eventually _became_ is fine, but it shouldn't have been released at half-mast to begin with.
Yes, you need to meet a deadline. But if the deadline makes your product worse as a result, then fuck the deadline and continue developing until your product is _ready._ It's not fucking rocket science. If you make an announcement to your fans that your game isn't finished, but is still coming out, then actually release footage of additional developments currently underway (if those developments are real, of course), then 9 times out of 10 your fans will understand. They'd rather have a completed product than an unfinished, unpolished mess.
I'm looking at you, Bathesda.
But really, it's the comeback story that I'm here for. Hello Games fucked up and couldn't deliver... but then they kept trying. They didn't stop with a broken, unfinished mess. I'm disappointed in them for releasing it the way it originally was, but I'm also proud of them for owning up to their shit and continuing to work on the game in order to make something better.
Fun fact: They’re still adding stuff even with the announcement of a new IP! The latest update (Orbital) was just released a few weeks ago!
I'm surprised he didn't talk about the god awful ending at the center of the universe
Maybe because it's so well known they don't need to say it again? You know it, I know it, anybody who kept/keeps up with No man's sky knows it. Why not just move on and talk about other things.
@@weskerwarner8770 I don't know it. I never made it to the center because I got bored with it and I haven't kept up with the game.
@@Vasarcdus but you decided to leave it
@@Vasarcdus It basically pulled you back and had you start again
It's sort of the same, but it has a lot better story and build up to the big reveal, plus, you can teleport back at any point
"My life for Ner'zhul" - most underrated joke in the video. Basically making fun of Raid for looking like Warcraft.
Also, Internet Historian could probably make a lot of money from making ads, and I would probably watch them.
I never thought I'd see a reverse Bethesda play covered by IH.
As a solo Indie game dev, I always find this story inspirational and there's so much to learn from.
13:43 not gonna lie, Nate is speaking straight facts here
After watching the video when it came out I went back to No Man's Sky I got it on sale a while ago but couldn't get into mainly cause I had a bunch of other games to play like Red Dead Redemption 2 and Stardew Valley (almost 200 hours on PlayStation and I just got it on pc as well help me I'm obsessed!) but I decided to give it another chance after hearing about how much work the devs put in to make it better and... I'm enjoying it. It's not perfect but it's a fun game to play while listening to a livestream and just exploring and I think you guys would enjoy it especially Co op. Although I'll warn you the first hour or so can drag as you learn things and get your ship and equipment squired away but after you get into space with a hyper drive it's a blast. As for update size of my digital copy on my ps4 is about 17 GB fully updated so should be fine.
Loved hearing you two laughing at the end.
34:53
That unopened champagne bottle tells so much without even muttering a single word
We come for the historian, but we stay for the graphic fanfiction.
Wow... I didn't think someone would do a hour long reaction
Shroud has 55 minutes long. Counts?
1:07:56
His laughter makes me happy 😂🤣
Sean Murray tweeted a plea not to watch this video past the ~45min mark. I can't imagine why.
Big issue I always had is that those interview people keeps asking for features and it clearly indicates 'we want this!' and it's extremely hard to say no when you WANT to ensure people will enjoy your game.
Rather than ask - what is the gameplay like? What are the top features in your mind within the game? etc.
And the fact people never understood that Hello Games were a tiny indie studio. Issue was of course also some missteps on Sean's end but still, we are talking years-prior interviews and mentionings.
Every. [Redacted]. Procedural.
Video starts at 7:20
Quits job and takes a huge risk starting his own business, sells his house and if that wasn't bad enough he decides to have 3 kids in bad financial situation. I can't believe how some people willingly make life so hard on themselves.
Maybe,but he did well in the end
Hard times create Savages able to endure anything
Hard times creates a Strong Man
THE STRONGEST WEAPONS ARE FORGED BY FIRE, BROTHER
Don't pray for easy lives pray to be stronger men
Good look at the vid good discussion I personally was a bit bummed they got forced by Sony's hand and couldn't delay further or release it as a Early Access I adore the game in its current state. All that they have added plus even full modding support its brilliant considering the size of the Team that made it.
I want to hug Sean 😢
YEEEAAAAAHHHH!
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!
It's a good game now, hello games have redeemed themselves (but the launch will not change from history)
@@jazzycat8917 However that in itself can be a fairly disastrous thing. No Man's Sky proving that goodwill from a poor launch can be re-earned by simply doing what they should have done all along? Now we can do the same, but perhaps without the same intention to really pour some elbow grease into our game while making it seem like we still are working on things.
@@demon2441 Like the video said, they are a *new* studio that is undercrewed for the hype the game got combined with disaster after disaster coming to them (flooding, lawsuits, etc.). Not saying they're totally blameless. It's just that most studios wouldn't have the same excuse. Even if they did, it's a terrible thing to do since most investors are more interested in the immediate return for their money a few days after launch, not months or years. Money-hungry companies wouldn't do what Sean did here.
@Allen Harper There are studios that consistently ship out glitchy, sub par products and never fix them. Warner Bros PC ports come to mind. While I certainly appreciate hello games going the extra mile, I don't ever think it should be the norm. Is there anything wrong in wanting a completed product.
Criticism is not toxic, but sending death, bomb and or rape threats to developers, their private offices/home addresses and or even their families as well as against people for just mentioning a video game release date will be delayed as shown in the video is highly toxic
and yes that was the GAMING community who did that.
Yea, imagine maybe driving someone to suicide because you thought the game was bad or you're upset that it's delayed.. Like.. Yikes... Some people really have no lives..
The biggest comeback in gaming history
Loved this video by Internet historian and, This reaction channel is actually Great:D
These people could take the money and decide what to do with it on their own.
Big studios can not do this.
Just a reminder.
I'm sure there are people exactly like this guy working in big studios but they simply have no say.
Sean Murray and the people of Hello Games have my undying respect.
Seeing it from his perspective... jeez.
I've been waiting for this video to come out!
It is no shame in falling down. Only if you don't stand up again.
One of the GREATEST under dog stories ever
As for TOXIC FANDOM... I always thought that was just a marketing device to attack critics by conflating them with trolls & serial harrassers indiscriminately. Then I found out about Reylos. Now I'm a believer.
This story is happy end
Yes the typo is intentional, can somebody please get the reference
You need to reaction to his fan fic videos in his 2nd channel
i think it's ok to charge it at 60 usd since every freaking dlc is free. look at other big game yeah 60usd for the game and every15 usd for dlc.
I just ... wanna know how people didn't see it coming. Sure i'm GLAD the game is good now. But like. The red flags were there from the start and I didn't hear about the game till it was about to come out. That astronomical number of procedurally generated planets ALONE told me this game was to good to be true. So I sat there drinking my tea waiting for the review bombs. I was very surprised to see it rise from the ashes. But hey! I'm never gonna bash developers that actually put in the effort to FIX their game.
There is 2 studios i wil put faith in based on their actions.
1-CDRP xor always triving to give quality games and not take their player base for fools or cash cows.
2-Hello Games for been able to come back from something that would have been a Death sentence for anyone else qnd win back through their efforts, the Players Trust and respect.
They are what other studios should aspire to be.
Supergiant is a good one as well constantly good games
Well CDPR has unfortunately put out an unfinished game now. They can redeem themselves, but they will have to do exactly what Hello Games did. Fix the bugs and add the content, that they cut out, but was promised. Only then will I forgive. Only then will they earn my trust back. No one is too high to fall and no one is too low to rise if they want to (this here is some hardcore generalizing by me, because there are exceptions to this rule, for example some do not get a second chance because of factors that they don't control, but you get the point)! No wait, the point must be, that we should not judge too quickly and instead see all the sides of the story.
@@rastislavvassilev8157 They won't do that. They don't think there's anything wrong with the content. They insist the only issue is bugs. Cyberpunk will never get the No Man's Sky treatment. CDPR lied, released a broken game, and are only going to do the bare minimum to fix it.
I've owned the game for maybe a year now, and I had heard about the failed launch, but hadn't really paid attention to it. After seeing them win the Best Ongoing Game Award at the Game Awards 2020, I was wondering why a game that I thought was despised by the community (although I love it, possibly because I've got it post-patches) won such an award. Now I see it. That's probably the best possible award for them, rewarding the years they've put in the game to redeem it. That's a great and really inspiring story right there.
Really good video, especially the informative and the semi objective discussion
No Mans Sky was a complete mess at launch, but the developers got of their seats and got to work to fix it. After all the backlash, they delivered what they promised
The game is definitely worth $60 or more nowadays. I've genuinely enjoyed the game alot even though it's not my preferred genre
Plus you could always just skip to the reaction. But for me I like to hear everyone's thoughts on certain occasions.
Monty Python reference always appreciated
If you're interested in hearing about Pokemon's business model, Knowledge Hub has a great video about it. The games don't need to change format because their primary source of income comes from merchandise, not the games. Games only make up 15% of their total profits, and only serves to create new pokemon to be sold as collectable merch. Even if the game sells poorly, the new pokemon in the game can still be sold as merch.
The problem is that it ends up being Gamefreak that takes the fallout when they half-ass the games... the Pokemon Company makes the money from the merchandise while Gamefreak has to deal with the fanbase. And then, the Pokemon Company has a lot of pull over how many games come out and so on, making the situation even worse for Gamefreak.
NMS literally just got a new update out of nowhere this game will never die, i love hello games, what a fucking comeback. They care about their community.
i love how OneyNG voiced michio kaku
I'm still hoping you guys react to Nostalgia Critic's semi-recent Commercials special. Hopefully one day.
Some Guy only good thing NC consistently does.
I'm pretty sure space combat was in the game on release, but even more rudimentary
If I was in charge of making the next Pokémon games, you know how many risks I would take
All of them
1:09:19
CLICK IT, DON'T QUESTION IT
The Last Campfire is actually a really good game too.
New way of measuring time, the time it takes for Internet Historian to make a video.
It's back to very positive again soooooo
There was space combat at launch but it wasn't even close to what was showed and rare
Watching this now I feel that Cyberpunk 2077 is what No Man's Sky would've been if thay would've taken every wrong decision all the way through
"every [redacted] procedural" I was eating when that happened and almost choked. I almost died to Sean Murry Fanfic, and I can't even be mad.