While Richard Shaw was still in Cradle Of Filth, his live rig consisted of only two Mooer micro pedals: "005 Brown Sound 3" and "Radar", and Shure GLXD wireless unit, totaling around 700 dollars. He joked that he could carry his rig around in his pockets.
That’s amazing. I have some Mooer preamps, amazing stuff. This dude from Russia used to sell amazing Maiden presets and I bought some but unfortunately you can’t probably buy them now for obvious reasons
Came to the comments to say this 😄 they later upgraded to Quad Cortex' but I love that they proved you don't need to get too fancy for a live sound, especially when you have to carry them all over the world.
I think one of my favorite expensive rigs was from my old guitar teacher. It was a First Gen Powerball, Orange 4x12, and an older TC Electronic Multi effects pedalboard which was surprisingly good
All things considered, I'm actually surprised how low the cost of even the most expensive rigs are, considering that the concerts themselves cost millions to put on. I wouldn't be surprised if just one light fixture for the bigger shows cost upwards of $10k, not to mention the control board and generators needed to power them. You'd think most of the cost would be in the guitar sound, but it's not.
“[…] considering that the concerts themselves cost millions to put on.” I have some limited first-hand knowledge of how much some mid-scale production stuff costs, and I’m pretty sure that it’s more like 100s of millions for the really big tours with lots of fancy lights and video. Your $10k estimate is a bit low, I think, at least for retail pricing on the high-end stuff… there are some $12k-15k single lighting fixtures for sale on Full Compass.
Saw a band in a tiny bar where the fire code was well under 100 people. The lead guitarist was playing through a Diezel VH4 half stack, so around $6100 new. And he had a pedal board, with a couple of Strymons, wah, EVH MXR phaser, tube screamer, controller, etc. Probably another $1500 including the board, ps, etc. The singer/rhythm guitarist's rig was a Boss Katana.
Honestly, I think if you're good enough a Katana is going to be enough for small gigs. Especially the 100w models, they can get loud enough for bar gigs and when setup correctly can do more than enough to please. I think unless you're a professional or the ultimate enthusiast, I'd say it's quite a waste of money to spend of that kind of expensive amps.
I'd love to see a part 2 to this KDH, some suggestions: Matt Pike of Sleep and High on Fire, Man has a wall of orange heads, with a few Laney and Green and Matamp heads thrown in. Amber Valentine of Jucifer, she has a wall of daisy-chained cabs so large its known to damage the structural integrity of buildings they play in. J. Mascis of Dinosaur Jr. also comes to mind Is known for his notoriously over-driven marshall stacks.
I would be interested in the Def Leppard for the endless sonic possibilities but at the same Nina Strauss shows it's all about the playing and that is good.On the other hand you understand that big productions imply top notch gear.
Megadeth's Rust in Peace tour is still the loudest concert i have been to after all these years.They had their sound down pat and dialed with suspended Marshall stacks on scaffolds.
I use a roland cube for cleans (can't beat the jazz chorus clean) and crate powerblock head into a crate 4x12. I'm only using the power section of the amp for my friedman be-od pedal as the preamp.
Tech is making really killer sounding guitar rigs much more accessible....I heard a live show right hear in Richmond Indiana two days ago just walking by and the singer/ guitar player sounded amazing he had a pedal board and a 4/12 Marshall Cab that's it and he could have played a far bigger show with no problem at all.... awesome! It's an amazing time to be a guitar player!!!!!
Hey dude, GREAT CHANNEL…no pretentious horse shit, no paid for “reviews “…just guitar talk and FUN…which is the entire effin point, some seem to miss that
Don't forget the wireless belt pack for the Shure Axient ADX1 coming in at $1668.00 each. That's a 4 unit rack of receivers. Most likely used for backup, but I imagine a Hand Held Mic as well. Those are 1K to 2K. Anyway, absolutely love your channel! I'm wishing you the best of success on RUclips. Your needed here! Thanks
The 1960dm cabinets were priced at 1300.00 USD when they were released in 2012. I loved those cabinets. The Dave Mustaine cabs are wonderful, mid heavy beasts, perfect for life work.
Honestly there's no need for rigs more expensive than Guthrie's. Much less stuff to worry about and much less painful to replace if gets broken or stolen, and the audience will not tell the difference
Depends on the scale of shows you're playing. It's worth noting how almost all of them use some variant of the AxeFX/Cortex etc for their actual sound; only John 5 is still using a traditional amp. But the part that makes it more expensive for the Megadeth type rigs is the extra gear needed to handle big arena volumes. Notice how much money goes into the power conditioner and wireless units- At those volume levels, the source has to be as clean as possible.
@@nekrovulpes Even a cheaper wireless rig (guitar and in-ears) and an Axe-FX (what I use) is still pushing $4k. But it's NICE not having to worry about venue size when you're bringing an amp (no need to worry if your amp is too small or if you need the Baffle O' Shame). And wireless us a godsend when you want to have fun!
Guitar players swear up an down that tone is in the fingers and then own 10 different guitars. It's almost like on an ELECTRIC instruments the ELECTRONICS are the most important thing ... although that probably makes too much sense.
Guthrie Govan is also using a powered FRFR stage wedge style cabinet (behind him) to hear his guitar. That was on the current Aristocrats tour. I was lucky enough to get to hang out during sound check and meet the band.
That is not guthries permanent rig, he’s only trying it out for this particular tour. Says in an interview he still prefers his victory amps and such, but wanted to experiment with the FM9 after working with Hans zimmer on some soundscapes for film
I was a tech in the 80's. The average racks back then cost $50k or so with some (like EVH) spending over $100k. Touring has gotten a lot less expensive.
Now I respect Zakk more after seeing this , nothing wrong with having a bunch of gear on tap but it must be a pain in the ass when something goes wrong.
I saw him 4 or 5 years ago. Front row. Best show I ever went to, the Creatures were phenomenal. Jared James Nichols opened. He had a really cool simple setup A Blackstar 20 watt mini stack? That's what it looked like to me. I cant recall if he was playing a Gibson or an Epiphone, but it was his signature model with a single p90. He was great.
Most of what they're paying for are wireless systems, power amps, and speakers. They're all using about 1500-2500 in modeling amps, which is relatively affordable, and only expensive because they often have 2 of them. It's amazing that the average teenager could work a part time job, save up for a good modeling amp and a great guitar in the 800-1200 range, and never complain about "their sound" again. Or at least, not have any excuses other than their playing. It was not always this way.
Yeah, I took my $5000 rig (mostly in the Axe-FX and wireless units) that I use for playing dance halls and party cruises and had no issues using that for a set we played in a 7000 seat arena. I'd need a better wireless unit to play full-production arena shows, but yeah, I have a pro-tier rig that's definitely affordable to most gigging guitarists.
Pretty impossible to calculate with vintage instruments. Like he pointed out, how do you calculate what Brian May's guitar is worth? Or a vintage Les Paul that was given to one player by another famous player? You could figure the average cost of any new guitar in the $3-7 thousand dollar price range on average. But even then, most of these guys have tech's that do extensive modifications to the instruments. Some change out all the hardware on the guitars. So specific bridge replacements, nut replacements, saddle replacements...etc..... So pricing that stuff accurately would be almost impossible.
Those Powerstages are amazing for just a straight clean signal. I had the little 100w floor model, with mono, and that thing would SCREAM!! I couldn't imagine standing in front of a set of amps pushing 1400w of that lmao!! I will say that if it were me I would use those for recording since it's so clear, but I'm betting Dave wants that clear signal/sound everywhere he goes so I bet he uses them in both applications.
Cool idea to look at the big rigs. 👍 I am building high end guitar rigs in Germany. I want to add some things, that are not always obvious to see. A rig is not just the "big" parts like the rack units, tube heads or a pedal board. A lot of money goes into installing all the components in a professional way e.g. connectors, cables, switching, buffers, signal routing, electric isolation, noise gating and so on. A lot of the cables have to be custom made to the needed length, soldered to connectors and fixed with cable ties. All this has to withstand the torture of touring and still be maintainable, just in case. Some rigs have more than one foot controller for wide stages or / and for the guitar technician who in some cases does the switching during the whole performance. Then - depending on the rig - there's a lot to pay for pro touring flightcases e.g. I have four Engl 4 x 12 guitar cabinets - the custom build cases for them add over 1200 $ easily - and a crazy weight. Usually you have multiple guitar transmitters. The list of things which are not that obvious to be added to get pro level goes on and on. And then for the very very big guitarist - some of them have rigs in different parts of the world as the fright costs are incredible expensive. So 20 k$ or 30 k$ for a rig without guitars and the guitar techs equipment is not that crazy. Of course, you can have e.g. an Axe-Fx (and a spare) straight to the PA and in ears and it would be not that expensive. A lot of guitarists use modeling or profiling because of ease of transportation and setup, but maybe more because of consistency of tone. I have to stop - I could write for days here. 🙈
I saw a rig walkthrough with Angus Young a short while back (1-2 years) and he has several vintage Marshall heads along with various wireless and switching items. I would love to hear the breakdown of a mixed rig like his.
Didn’t he have 4 universal power conditioner that were made in Japan, each was like $5000. But you could plug in any electrical source in the world to them and they output what ever voltage you wanted.
@@JoeDread316 yeah, but I don't know if you can really count Dumbles in this calculation. Unless you use the price they were when they were made. The Marshalls are rather normal amps.
I saw Kiko this year in Montreal and i must say not only was he a mindblowing musician, my friend and I noted how great his guitar sounded. (By the way between us we've seen almost A LOT of guitarists!)
Lol, i have an old SKB Pedal board with a 15 watt Eminence equipped solid state amplifier built in. It also checks the health of the Patch cables and can power up to 8 or 10 pedals. I' think i'll dig it out. It's like new in the box.
This was a really good video! I’m running an Axe Fx III Turbo now…. it’s unbelievably amazing!! Took a long while to save up for it, but it’s very, very worth it!
Steven Wilson's rig prior to the Porcupine Tree reunion would be interesting since it's a fairly complex and high-end pedalboard into a Bad Cat halfstack, and then a little practice amp just because.
If you, showing up with your rig, doesn't involve a beeping back up alarm, air brakes, and two guys in cowboy hats and cargo shorts; you're gonna need to reassess some goals.😊
i actually have the same rig as one of the people you mentioned today, Nita Strauss, ive been using a gt1000 since they came out and its just fine, i was amazed listening to her talk about hers though, she uses some presets and away she goes, when i got mine, i researched relentlessly on how to get the best sound out of it then built my patches from the ground up, it took me about 3 weeks tweeking it before i started gigging with it
As a teenager, I used a billion effects, first with pedals, then with rackmount gear. But then after discovering a certain guitarist who basically kills all other players with no added effects, I started running direct from guitar to amp. All I used was the distortion and EQ built into the amp. Today, I occasionally buy a pedal for something I want that isn't readily available in an amp, like an octave device. Other than that, I keep it lean. I view it like the difference between a car with added accoutrements (turbocharger, NOS) and one with a free-breathing V12 engine.
Great video I loved it and all your other videos too. You should look into some of the jam guys Rigs. For example Trey Anastasio’s - the guitar player from phish - dry amp alone is $150,000+ Trainwreck. I think in the touring world overall - just from my point of view - it’s either Trey, John Mayer, or Joe Bonomasa who have the most expensive rigs. They use a lot of vintage gear though so it definitely tips the scales.
Phil from Def Leppard is prime example of modeling technology being just as good as tubes in a live situation. The coast ( nothing to Phil) is worth every penny. Seen them live with Motley Crue( I'm a die hard Motley fan) and can say that every single night, there sound is perfect, and way better and way louder then the Crue. I'm not even a big Def Leppard fan. But they earned my respect. In a stadium, I'm betting you can't find a clearer, more consistent sound. It elevates them to higher standards live
Great video! I'd love to see a breakdown of Larry LaLonde's (Primus) rig from a while back... Dude had 3 pedalboards and 2 super sonic 100s. Also, I remember a rig rundown of the (I believe) Imagine Dragons guitarist which would likely blow Megadeth's price total out of the water...
@@joshhill5932 Another huge advantage (in my opinion) is live switching. Being able to hit a footswitch and go from a a clean, modulated, full clean sound to a bright rhythm distortion is invaluable.
@@martyshwaartz971 Also, you can just plug your modeler straight into the PA, so you can have the sound of a cranked full stack JCM800 in a low key bar gig without killing half the crowd. And being able to go from crystal clear cleans on a JC120 to a raunchy old Bassman to massive chuggachuggas of a Diezel at the push of a footswitch is AWESOME (and you don't need to lug three goddamn amps). Still want a real tube amp for a studio, but 95% tone quality in a live show is beyond good enough.
I'm fairly certain the Mustaine cabs are just 1960Vintage, with a metal grille added. The stock 1960AV is a couple hundred $ more than your standard 1960A.
i think Petrucci's rig, with 2 mesa mark V signatures, 2 axe fxIII, a bunch of pedals and isocabs, plus micellaneus, would put all these in the ZOOM 505 category XD.. but that shure axient is putting a heavy weight on those rigs, it is ridiculously expensive, but i've heard marvels of it
When I was touring my rack rig w/ axe FX was around 13k to 15k. I stopped using pedals to simplify my setup and had everything programmed into the axe FX and used the axe FX floor controller and custom Ernie Ball expression pedals.
I've seen Vai once and he sounded absolutely amazing. I severely overestimated his rig cost. Those custom shop guitars might drive that cost up a few dollars... 🤘🤘🤘😄😄😄
Billy Corgan has been known to have an insane rack rig. I once saw a picture that had at least two Diezel VH4s in some insane sized case, surrounded by stuff I'll never understand.
Even though each of Megadeth's guitarists have the most expensive rigs here, they basically boil down to the Quad Cortex. You could easily replicate their tone with one and a Marshall cab IR. The Shure wireless units and Radial switchers are what the drives the price of their rigs very high.
I respect when an artist who can essentially afford any combination of gear on the planet decides to use a very basic setup of commercially available, relatively inexpensive equipment. There’s nothing wrong with being a gear hoarder, spending decades chasing very particular sounds and spending insane amounts of money to do so but it’s cool when someone gets all of the sounds they want from a single multi-fx unit and an off the shelf amp. Lots of people just buy and buy and buy and never really end up satisfied.
Have to say that before I even watch this: I did the math on my pedalboard with 8 pedals. Cost would be over 2k if you paid full new price on the pedals and board, etc. It stacks up fast! Was very surprised.
Very interesting Video. I wouldn't have guessed Megadeth as being the most expensive. Especially with def Leppard being in there. It's cool to see some people just using a Guitar Processor.
read up on all the different frequency regulations across the globe. If Shure has found a fix for that in one system, it may very well be worth the price
a. maximum frequency precision to minimize interferences b. maximum frequency range to meet all global regulations c. maximum reliability and durability because you're touring the planet for months at a time Easiest example: a cheap wireless SM58 (all you need as a local musician) is under $200, but the Axient is almost $1k. $800 is a drop in the bucket on a pro-level touring rig, especially when you want the best and most reliable pieces of equipment you can.
@@notsure1135 Yes, but you're telling the obvious here kind of. I'm pretty sure if you replace any guitar gods gear with another guitar god they still sound good.
@@TheCyberMantis It's crazy to me that a lot of people think you "need" tubes to sound good. There's plenty of stuff that suggests way otherwise. And if we're gonna go by sounding "raw" even then you can still sound raw without tubes.
Love the vids mate! Would be curious about Angus Young’s off Rig Rundown but then I guess like you said you can’t really put a price on the vintage stuff…
Dude I was hoping for Matt pikes rig cost. As many orange rockerverbs and dual darks as he can find and a literal wall of 4×12s. Also I wonder how much the grateful deads rig used to cost. Great video
Great video. Interesting. I run Furman power conditioners, a JX-44 into 2 Quad Cortex units, an FM3, and an old Digitech GSP-2101LE, and I slave the power section and speakers from two old Fender Red Knob Twins. What I don't have is that sweet wireless. Clearly it must be the best one. Good grief, it's half the cost of rigs that had one. I never even knew it existed, but I think I'll stick with my 12' Mogami cable. I don't have any stadium shows lined up at the moment. 🤣
Or a Steinway piano for that matter. I suppose you would also pay similar amounts for a professional digital film cameras and so on. Good gear is expensive in any field. Otoh you don’t need all of this stuff to play a pub gig haha. Tbh if anything guitar is cheap. It’s kind of amazing you can be a touring pro with a rig that comes in less than 2k.
Interesting comparison. Here in Australia, gear is hideously expensive. I have a Mesa Subway bass rig and a pedal board. The total (in USD) adds up to 5540 freaking dollars, and I play in a part time covers band. I could only afford it because I wasn't dumb enough to think I could make it as a full time muso. lol.
I was really hoping you'd have John Petrucci because I feel like he's gotta have the most expensive one. Last I checked he had several Mesa Boogie Mark V's, a few Axe FXs, the necessary switchers & power conditioners, and so on.
Mesas gone up in price to insane levels so it’s up there. I have a Mesa Studio preamp I bought 8 years ago for 600 bucks and I’m seeing it a lot of places for 1500 now
The washers and dryers are on Geddy Lee his side to balance out with all the amps Alex has on his side. Geddy doesn't use amps on stage, he goes direct, so you could say that these are part of Geddy's rig.
@@rc121crx I guess I was wrong, sorry about that. I based my answer on an old rig rundown from Premier Guitar, I think. There were only washers and dryers on Geddy's side of the stage then. My explanation was a quote from the guitar tech. Edit : I just checked out... Wow, the washers /dryers were from 2004, then the rotating chickens and then the steampunk theme. Last tour was very "basic" it seems... Didn't really follow them, although I had 5 albums. I remember I did a cover of "YYZ" with my instrumental band in 1991...
I enjoyed this video. It was very well put together. I was just thinking, what about David Gilmour, Steve Lukather, Jimmy Page? Those can’t be cheap at all.
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While Richard Shaw was still in Cradle Of Filth, his live rig consisted of only two Mooer micro pedals: "005 Brown Sound 3" and "Radar", and Shure GLXD wireless unit, totaling around 700 dollars. He joked that he could carry his rig around in his pockets.
That’s amazing. I have some Mooer preamps, amazing stuff. This dude from Russia used to sell amazing Maiden presets and I bought some but unfortunately you can’t probably buy them now for obvious reasons
Came to the comments to say this 😄 they later upgraded to Quad Cortex' but I love that they proved you don't need to get too fancy for a live sound, especially when you have to carry them all over the world.
I think one of my favorite expensive rigs was from my old guitar teacher. It was a First Gen Powerball, Orange 4x12, and an older TC Electronic Multi effects pedalboard which was surprisingly good
I think its japanese power source cost more than the amps
@@blckbldng LOL!
All things considered, I'm actually surprised how low the cost of even the most expensive rigs are, considering that the concerts themselves cost millions to put on. I wouldn't be surprised if just one light fixture for the bigger shows cost upwards of $10k, not to mention the control board and generators needed to power them. You'd think most of the cost would be in the guitar sound, but it's not.
Yep most of the money is wrapped up in the lights and the sound.
Most of the rig cost are in the instruments.
@@8Junio76 lol ok
“[…] considering that the concerts themselves cost millions to put on.”
I have some limited first-hand knowledge of how much some mid-scale production stuff costs, and I’m pretty sure that it’s more like 100s of millions for the really big tours with lots of fancy lights and video.
Your $10k estimate is a bit low, I think, at least for retail pricing on the high-end stuff… there are some $12k-15k single lighting fixtures for sale on Full Compass.
@@8Junio76 No WAY! You can buy one of Dave’s custom guitars, and it ain’t cheap, put it’s still less than 1/7 the price of his personal rig.
Saw a band in a tiny bar where the fire code was well under 100 people. The lead guitarist was playing through a Diezel VH4 half stack, so around $6100 new. And he had a pedal board, with a couple of Strymons, wah, EVH MXR phaser, tube screamer, controller, etc. Probably another $1500 including the board, ps, etc. The singer/rhythm guitarist's rig was a Boss Katana.
Honestly, I think if you're good enough a Katana is going to be enough for small gigs. Especially the 100w models, they can get loud enough for bar gigs and when setup correctly can do more than enough to please. I think unless you're a professional or the ultimate enthusiast, I'd say it's quite a waste of money to spend of that kind of expensive amps.
One of the best guitar channels on RUclips. Love the variety and coverage of current events in the guitar world. Always dig your new videos
I like Guthrie's setup, sweet and simple. 😁
The fm9 is a beast. I've been selling a lot of gear to get one. Had a lot of trouble getting good tones with my (now) retired setup.
When you're that ridiculously talented, you can use a cigarette packet amp and still blow people away.
Everybody wants an FM9. Which is why nobody can get one.
Guthrie plays expensive guitars tho.
@@TheCyberMantis Most of the people on the list play expensive guitars. 😉
I'd love to see a part 2 to this KDH, some suggestions: Matt Pike of Sleep and High on Fire, Man has a wall of orange heads, with a few Laney and Green and Matamp heads thrown in. Amber Valentine of Jucifer, she has a wall of daisy-chained cabs so large its known to damage the structural integrity of buildings they play in. J. Mascis of Dinosaur Jr. also comes to mind Is known for his notoriously over-driven marshall stacks.
I would be interested in the Def Leppard for the endless sonic possibilities but at the same Nina Strauss shows it's all about the playing and that is good.On the other hand you understand that big productions imply top notch gear.
Megadeth's Rust in Peace tour is still the loudest concert i have been to after all these years.They had their sound down pat and dialed with suspended Marshall stacks on scaffolds.
My live rig consisted of a Roland cube on top of a plastic garden chair!
Me too, for many years! Now I have a Boss Katana head and a Peavey 4x12 cab!
I use a roland cube for cleans (can't beat the jazz chorus clean) and crate powerblock head into a crate 4x12. I'm only using the power section of the amp for my friedman be-od pedal as the preamp.
@@jwasikowski1 That's a good rig!
ready to fk up a wendys
Tech is making really killer sounding guitar rigs much more accessible....I heard a live show right hear in Richmond Indiana two days ago just walking by and the singer/ guitar player sounded amazing he had a pedal board and a 4/12 Marshall Cab that's it and he could have played a far bigger show with no problem at all.... awesome! It's an amazing time to be a guitar player!!!!!
Hey dude, GREAT CHANNEL…no pretentious horse shit, no paid for “reviews “…just guitar talk and FUN…which is the entire effin point, some seem to miss that
Don't forget the wireless belt pack for the Shure Axient ADX1 coming in at $1668.00 each. That's a 4 unit rack of receivers. Most likely used for backup, but I imagine a Hand Held Mic as well. Those are 1K to 2K. Anyway, absolutely love your channel! I'm wishing you the best of success on RUclips. Your needed here! Thanks
Probably if there are guitar changes, they have them ready to go on 3 guitars.
@@Scott__C That's a great point. That makes more sense.
The 1960dm cabinets were priced at 1300.00 USD when they were released in 2012. I loved those cabinets. The Dave Mustaine cabs are wonderful, mid heavy beasts, perfect for life work.
Honestly there's no need for rigs more expensive than Guthrie's.
Much less stuff to worry about and much less painful to replace if gets broken or stolen, and the audience will not tell the difference
Depends on the scale of shows you're playing. It's worth noting how almost all of them use some variant of the AxeFX/Cortex etc for their actual sound; only John 5 is still using a traditional amp. But the part that makes it more expensive for the Megadeth type rigs is the extra gear needed to handle big arena volumes. Notice how much money goes into the power conditioner and wireless units- At those volume levels, the source has to be as clean as possible.
Hell even my rig is more expensive because of old school pre Gibson Mesa inflation
But muh toan
@@nekrovulpes Even a cheaper wireless rig (guitar and in-ears) and an Axe-FX (what I use) is still pushing $4k. But it's NICE not having to worry about venue size when you're bringing an amp (no need to worry if your amp is too small or if you need the Baffle O' Shame). And wireless us a godsend when you want to have fun!
“Tone is in the fingers”
-plays through $50,000 rig.
Well, yeah, but lend me that 50,000 rig and all you'll hear is caterwauling.
Guitar players swear up an down that tone is in the fingers and then own 10 different guitars. It's almost like on an ELECTRIC instruments the ELECTRONICS are the most important thing ... although that probably makes too much sense.
Reliability for the road
@@ChrisP3000x Play style and skill, not tone.
Sometimes it's not about what you need, but what you want.
Guthrie Govan is also using a powered FRFR stage wedge style cabinet (behind him) to hear his guitar. That was on the current Aristocrats tour. I was lucky enough to get to hang out during sound check and meet the band.
this has been one of your best vids, do more!
Should of checked out Tommy Emmanuel’s rig.
A single Boss Tu-3.
Great video mate, cheers.
That is not guthries permanent rig, he’s only trying it out for this particular tour. Says in an interview he still prefers his victory amps and such, but wanted to experiment with the FM9 after working with Hans zimmer on some soundscapes for film
Thanks for the reminder, I forgot this.
Hans and Guthrie?! This film score sounds fantastic already.
@@Dylan-kd3lf yep he's part of Hans Zimmer's live band/orchestra for quite a while, since like, 4-5 years ago I think
@@Dylan-kd3lf A little late to the party but IIRC, they worked together on Dune and the 'bagpipes' sound is actually Govan on guitar.
I was a tech in the 80's. The average racks back then cost $50k or so with some (like EVH) spending over $100k. Touring has gotten a lot less expensive.
This would be a cool series. Talking about different guitarists and different parts of their career. Zakk Wylde now versus 1992 with Ozzy?
Now I respect Zakk more after seeing this , nothing wrong with having a bunch of gear on tap but it must be a pain in the ass when something goes wrong.
Saw J5 live a couple years ago and was super fascinated by his rig. All boss, nothin overly fancy for sure. COOL fuckin player
I saw him 4 or 5 years ago. Front row. Best show I ever went to, the Creatures were phenomenal. Jared James Nichols opened. He had a really cool simple setup
A Blackstar 20 watt mini stack?
That's what it looked like to me.
I cant recall if he was playing a Gibson or an Epiphone, but it was his signature model with a single p90. He was great.
I definitely would like to see more of this. Fun video, good work!
The contrast in price between professional musicians gear is pretty astounding.
EVH’s last touring rig as a bonus would’ve been nice, but maybe you could do a whole video on every EVH touring rig. Great video!
Most of what they're paying for are wireless systems, power amps, and speakers. They're all using about 1500-2500 in modeling amps, which is relatively affordable, and only expensive because they often have 2 of them. It's amazing that the average teenager could work a part time job, save up for a good modeling amp and a great guitar in the 800-1200 range, and never complain about "their sound" again. Or at least, not have any excuses other than their playing.
It was not always this way.
Even a £400 guitar can be good enough these days man
Yeah, I took my $5000 rig (mostly in the Axe-FX and wireless units) that I use for playing dance halls and party cruises and had no issues using that for a set we played in a 7000 seat arena. I'd need a better wireless unit to play full-production arena shows, but yeah, I have a pro-tier rig that's definitely affordable to most gigging guitarists.
I wonder how much George Lynch's 80s rig would cost nowadays.
80 grand
1 million
I would be happy to see more of this. It's like lifestyles of the rich and famous but for guitar. 10/10
I'd be interested to see a version of price of guitars brought on tour! But this was a great watch too!
Yeah, I mean some are not able to be accurately priced, but most would be.
Pretty impossible to calculate with vintage instruments. Like he pointed out, how do you calculate what Brian May's guitar is worth? Or a vintage Les Paul that was given to one player by another famous player? You could figure the average cost of any new guitar in the $3-7 thousand dollar price range on average. But even then, most of these guys have tech's that do extensive modifications to the instruments. Some change out all the hardware on the guitars. So specific bridge replacements, nut replacements, saddle replacements...etc..... So pricing that stuff accurately would be almost impossible.
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Great video, as always! Could be fun to look at some other rig rundowns. Thanks!
Those Powerstages are amazing for just a straight clean signal. I had the little 100w floor model, with mono, and that thing would SCREAM!! I couldn't imagine standing in front of a set of amps pushing 1400w of that lmao!! I will say that if it were me I would use those for recording since it's so clear, but I'm betting Dave wants that clear signal/sound everywhere he goes so I bet he uses them in both applications.
Cool idea to look at the big rigs. 👍 I am building high end guitar rigs in Germany. I want to add some things, that are not always obvious to see. A rig is not just the "big" parts like the rack units, tube heads or a pedal board. A lot of money goes into installing all the components in a professional way e.g. connectors, cables, switching, buffers, signal routing, electric isolation, noise gating and so on. A lot of the cables have to be custom made to the needed length, soldered to connectors and fixed with cable ties. All this has to withstand the torture of touring and still be maintainable, just in case. Some rigs have more than one foot controller for wide stages or / and for the guitar technician who in some cases does the switching during the whole performance. Then - depending on the rig - there's a lot to pay for pro touring flightcases e.g. I have four Engl 4 x 12 guitar cabinets - the custom build cases for them add over 1200 $ easily - and a crazy weight. Usually you have multiple guitar transmitters. The list of things which are not that obvious to be added to get pro level goes on and on. And then for the very very big guitarist - some of them have rigs in different parts of the world as the fright costs are incredible expensive. So 20 k$ or 30 k$ for a rig without guitars and the guitar techs equipment is not that crazy. Of course, you can have e.g. an Axe-Fx (and a spare) straight to the PA and in ears and it would be not that expensive. A lot of guitarists use modeling or profiling because of ease of transportation and setup, but maybe more because of consistency of tone. I have to stop - I could write for days here. 🙈
I saw a rig walkthrough with Angus Young a short while back (1-2 years) and he has several vintage Marshall heads along with various wireless and switching items. I would love to hear the breakdown of a mixed rig like his.
Yeah, his rig is very likely upwards of $100,000.
Didn’t he have 4 universal power conditioner that were made in Japan, each was like $5000. But you could plug in any electrical source in the world to them and they output what ever voltage you wanted.
@@mrcoatsworth429 nothing compared to Joe Bonamassa .
@@JoeDread316 yeah, but I don't know if you can really count Dumbles in this calculation. Unless you use the price they were when they were made. The Marshalls are rather normal amps.
The Edge. Never been a fan of u2 but I watched a rig rundown with it and it’s mad fascinating.
I was SO ready to be converting this entire video to Euro lol (it's actually pretty close to 1:1 right now anyway)...thanks buddy!
I saw Kiko this year in Montreal and i must say not only was he a mindblowing musician, my friend and I noted how great his guitar sounded. (By the way between us we've seen almost A LOT of guitarists!)
Lol, i have an old SKB Pedal board with a 15 watt Eminence equipped solid state amplifier built in. It also checks the health of the Patch cables and can power up to 8 or 10 pedals. I' think i'll dig it out. It's like new in the box.
This was a really good video! I’m running an Axe Fx III Turbo now…. it’s unbelievably amazing!! Took a long while to save up for it, but it’s very, very worth it!
Same here. And I love getting compliments on how good my tone is from fellow musicians
i use: marshall 1960a & b cabs, two marshall origin heads, pedaltrain flight case, ernieball volume, korg tuner, wolf computer, aB synthe, empress superdelay vintage, eventide space, zvex tremorama, zvex ringtone, zvex lofi, walrus slotva, electroharmonix cathedral and holiest grail into little dipper+vox delaylab (looper)
seems like alot but its just distortion and reverb effects / a few tricks to cut&slice the stacks as they build into the loops
Cool video. I definetly appreciate all the work you put into this. Nice job man
I thoroughly enjoyed this. I remember reading Guitar World that had rig setup in most issues. always found it interesting
Also need to include total weight and approximate space needed to transport lol
Just saw Dave and Kiko in Raleigh NC. They used every penny of that equipment. Kick ass show. Thanks for the video 🤙🤙
Steven Wilson's rig prior to the Porcupine Tree reunion would be interesting since it's a fairly complex and high-end pedalboard into a Bad Cat halfstack, and then a little practice amp just because.
If you, showing up with your rig, doesn't involve a beeping back up alarm, air brakes, and two guys in cowboy hats and cargo shorts; you're gonna need to reassess some goals.😊
i actually have the same rig as one of the people you mentioned today, Nita Strauss, ive been using a gt1000 since they came out and its just fine, i was amazed listening to her talk about hers though, she uses some presets and away she goes, when i got mine, i researched relentlessly on how to get the best sound out of it then built my patches from the ground up, it took me about 3 weeks tweeking it before i started gigging with it
this was interesting indeed, love to see more from this kind of videos my friend!! :DDD
Love your videos and your brutal honesty no bs or crap You rock bro please keep making awesome content.
Great video! I'm sure the Malmsteen back line alone would crush the list lol!!
Great video, I'd love to see a breakdown on Matt Pike from High on Fire
As a teenager, I used a billion effects, first with pedals, then with rackmount gear. But then after discovering a certain guitarist who basically kills all other players with no added effects, I started running direct from guitar to amp. All I used was the distortion and EQ built into the amp. Today, I occasionally buy a pedal for something I want that isn't readily available in an amp, like an octave device. Other than that, I keep it lean. I view it like the difference between a car with added accoutrements (turbocharger, NOS) and one with a free-breathing V12 engine.
Great video I loved it and all your other videos too.
You should look into some of the jam guys Rigs. For example Trey Anastasio’s - the guitar player from phish - dry amp alone is $150,000+ Trainwreck.
I think in the touring world overall - just from my point of view - it’s either Trey, John Mayer, or Joe Bonomasa who have the most expensive rigs. They use a lot of vintage gear though so it definitely tips the scales.
This rig analysis was freaking positively informative 👏🏻 👌🏻
Thanks.
great video. some of my favorite players, and actually , the last 3 concerts i saw were nita strauss, john 5, and megadeth.
Phil from Def Leppard is prime example of modeling technology being just as good as tubes in a live situation. The coast ( nothing to Phil) is worth every penny. Seen them live with Motley Crue( I'm a die hard Motley fan) and can say that every single night, there sound is perfect, and way better and way louder then the Crue. I'm not even a big Def Leppard fan. But they earned my respect. In a stadium, I'm betting you can't find a clearer, more consistent sound. It elevates them to higher standards live
Excellent video concept brother.
Great video! I'd love to see a breakdown of Larry LaLonde's (Primus) rig from a while back... Dude had 3 pedalboards and 2 super sonic 100s. Also, I remember a rig rundown of the (I believe) Imagine Dragons guitarist which would likely blow Megadeth's price total out of the water...
I once did a gig for 350 people, I had an Ibanez Gax30 Gio, a line 15W Line 6 spider IV amp and 4 months of guitar total. Best time I've ever had.
Good shit man, great idea for a series… more pls :)
Half the players are already using digital, this was unthinkable a few years ago.
It won't take long to see a full switch, at least live.
It makes sense cause touring you want durability. Emulator tech is really good so it is hard to justify the headaches that come with tube amps.
@@joshhill5932 Another huge advantage (in my opinion) is live switching. Being able to hit a footswitch and go from a a clean, modulated, full clean sound to a bright rhythm distortion is invaluable.
Tubes are for the studio. Digital SS stuff for everything else.
@@martyshwaartz971 Also, you can just plug your modeler straight into the PA, so you can have the sound of a cranked full stack JCM800 in a low key bar gig without killing half the crowd. And being able to go from crystal clear cleans on a JC120 to a raunchy old Bassman to massive chuggachuggas of a Diezel at the push of a footswitch is AWESOME (and you don't need to lug three goddamn amps).
Still want a real tube amp for a studio, but 95% tone quality in a live show is beyond good enough.
Metallica went digital back in 2016. Amazing how consistent they sound from night to night and not having to deal with tube amps acting up.
I've got a Mode 4 cab and I bought it 2nd hand for £450 (although that was 14 years ago) as a reference for anyone curious
I'm fairly certain the Mustaine cabs are just 1960Vintage, with a metal grille added.
The stock 1960AV is a couple hundred $ more than your standard 1960A.
Hell yeah great video man
i think Petrucci's rig, with 2 mesa mark V signatures, 2 axe fxIII, a bunch of pedals and isocabs, plus micellaneus, would put all these in the ZOOM 505 category XD.. but that shure axient is putting a heavy weight on those rigs, it is ridiculously expensive, but i've heard marvels of it
When I was touring my rack rig w/ axe FX was around 13k to 15k. I stopped using pedals to simplify my setup and had everything programmed into the axe FX and used the axe FX floor controller and custom Ernie Ball expression pedals.
Cool video 👍👍 Those road rack cases are expensive as well!!
I've seen Vai once and he sounded absolutely amazing. I severely overestimated his rig cost. Those custom shop guitars might drive that cost up a few dollars...
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Great video. I'd love to see what value was involved in assembling Little Manhattan, as well as the cost of the Buzzard basses.
Very interesting vid KDH. Nita and Guthrie are my two new favorite guitar players!
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great vid! plus take into consideration the cost of The Guitars as well :)
I remember going to watch Dream Theatre and John Petrucci's rig was insane.
Billy Corgan has been known to have an insane rack rig. I once saw a picture that had at least two Diezel VH4s in some insane sized case, surrounded by stuff I'll never understand.
I'm using a Boss Katana MK2 100w, 2 cheap Behringer Pedals and mainly a highly upgraded 100€ Strat (with upgrades more ofc). I have no need for more.
Great idea for a series!
Even though each of Megadeth's guitarists have the most expensive rigs here, they basically boil down to the Quad Cortex. You could easily replicate their tone with one and a Marshall cab IR. The Shure wireless units and Radial switchers are what the drives the price of their rigs very high.
Would be interesting to know the price of Yngwie Malmsteen's rig, as well as Slash's.
Yngwie's rig is two Plexi's, and a wall of fake empty cabs. 😆
@@TheCyberMantis pretty much ha
I respect when an artist who can essentially afford any combination of gear on the planet decides to use a very basic setup of commercially available, relatively inexpensive equipment.
There’s nothing wrong with being a gear hoarder, spending decades chasing very particular sounds and spending insane amounts of money to do so but it’s cool when someone gets all of the sounds they want from a single multi-fx unit and an off the shelf amp.
Lots of people just buy and buy and buy and never really end up satisfied.
Have to say that before I even watch this: I did the math on my pedalboard with 8 pedals. Cost would be over 2k if you paid full new price on the pedals and board, etc. It stacks up fast! Was very surprised.
Very interesting Video. I wouldn't have guessed Megadeth as being the most expensive. Especially with def Leppard being in there.
It's cool to see some people just using a Guitar Processor.
I thought the price of the Shure Axient was a typo. $7,000. for a wireless system!?! Holy smoke!
read up on all the different frequency regulations across the globe. If Shure has found a fix for that in one system, it may very well be worth the price
a. maximum frequency precision to minimize interferences
b. maximum frequency range to meet all global regulations
c. maximum reliability and durability because you're touring the planet for months at a time
Easiest example: a cheap wireless SM58 (all you need as a local musician) is under $200, but the Axient is almost $1k. $800 is a drop in the bucket on a pro-level touring rig, especially when you want the best and most reliable pieces of equipment you can.
When I was a kid learning to play, my dream rig was a Marshall MG15 and a Boss ME-50.
Not that its expensive or anything, but i have a full 21u rack of pure 80s hairspray metal
It's no wonder Megadeth sound so good live.
They could sound as good with Govan’s rig easily.
Megadeth is running NO TUBES. Let THAT sink in.
@@notsure1135 then all the sloppy playing would be exposed.
@@notsure1135 Yes, but you're telling the obvious here kind of. I'm pretty sure if you replace any guitar gods gear with another guitar god they still sound good.
@@TheCyberMantis It's crazy to me that a lot of people think you "need" tubes to sound good. There's plenty of stuff that suggests way otherwise. And if we're gonna go by sounding "raw" even then you can still sound raw without tubes.
GC has the Mustaine cabinet on its website, out of stock but $1199.00 apiece through them.
Love the vids mate! Would be curious about Angus Young’s off Rig Rundown but then I guess like you said you can’t really put a price on the vintage stuff…
absolutely love this, please do more of these!
Great video idea. Keep 'em coming
Dude I was hoping for Matt pikes rig cost. As many orange rockerverbs and dual darks as he can find and a literal wall of 4×12s. Also I wonder how much the grateful deads rig used to cost. Great video
Great video. Interesting. I run Furman power conditioners, a JX-44 into 2 Quad Cortex units, an FM3, and an old Digitech GSP-2101LE, and I slave the power section and speakers from two old Fender Red Knob Twins. What I don't have is that sweet wireless. Clearly it must be the best one. Good grief, it's half the cost of rigs that had one. I never even knew it existed, but I think I'll stick with my 12' Mogami cable. I don't have any stadium shows lined up at the moment. 🤣
Keep doing this! Very interesting.
Or a Steinway piano for that matter. I suppose you would also pay similar amounts for a professional digital film cameras and so on. Good gear is expensive in any field. Otoh you don’t need all of this stuff to play a pub gig haha. Tbh if anything guitar is cheap. It’s kind of amazing you can be a touring pro with a rig that comes in less than 2k.
Interesting comparison. Here in Australia, gear is hideously expensive. I have a Mesa Subway bass rig and a pedal board. The total (in USD) adds up to 5540 freaking dollars, and I play in a part time covers band.
I could only afford it because I wasn't dumb enough to think I could make it as a full time muso. lol.
From WA dude I hear ya. I don’t get it, I’ve seen shitty SGs sit at a window copping sun for 4 years & never drop in price..
I liked and subscribed solely for the Warwick hanging, similarly to me swiping right on dating apps for T&A 😬
I was really hoping you'd have John Petrucci because I feel like he's gotta have the most expensive one.
Last I checked he had several Mesa Boogie Mark V's, a few Axe FXs, the necessary switchers & power conditioners, and so on.
Petrucci has a pair of JP-2c's on stage. But he uses other stuff too.
Mesas gone up in price to insane levels so it’s up there. I have a Mesa Studio preamp I bought 8 years ago for 600 bucks and I’m seeing it a lot of places for 1500 now
Excellent video. Cheers from Argentina
Would of loved to see Alex Lifeson's rig cost . Probably a quarter million with those washer and dryers.
His tone was better when he had the Maytags.
The washers and dryers are on Geddy Lee his side to balance out with all the amps Alex has on his side. Geddy doesn't use amps on stage, he goes direct, so you could say that these are part of Geddy's rig.
@@Stefan-Van-der-Pulst So Geddy was using Ampeg Top loaders stage left 🤔 makes sense.
@@rc121crx I guess I was wrong, sorry about that. I based my answer on an old rig rundown from Premier Guitar, I think. There were only washers and dryers on Geddy's side of the stage then. My explanation was a quote from the guitar tech.
Edit : I just checked out... Wow, the washers /dryers were from 2004, then the rotating chickens and then the steampunk theme. Last tour was very "basic" it seems... Didn't really follow them, although I had 5 albums. I remember I did a cover of "YYZ" with my instrumental band in 1991...
Surprised you didn’t include your fellow Irishman The Edge’s rig. His rig, amp and guitar collection is insane.
I enjoyed this video. It was very well put together. I was just thinking, what about David Gilmour, Steve Lukather, Jimmy Page? Those can’t be cheap at all.
I don’t even play or have any interest in guitars, this video is great.